I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarBongo!
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Gravataraha


Gravatarmer?


GravatarL.E., standin' tall.
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GravatarOle!


GravatarStill Baquing in Spanish scenery??


GravatarBaquing = Basquing


GravatarAnd brand new cat wrasslin' video, less than an hour old!
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GravatarAtrios will absolutely freak out if he ever makes it up to Canada.


GravatarOne curious aspect of the surge is the idea that more troops will lead to less death.


GravatarOkay, let's gear up for breakfast. 2nd cuppa almost done, seat is almost dry...
bbl
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GravatarMoe, article in DMNews about church in London with recycled door green confessional booth for recycled prayer and the like.


GravatarThe nice thing about Spain is there are so many places named after classic Ford cars.


GravatarBoy, I was confused a few days ago when I thought Atrios had come back to Amurka. He's still chillin' with the furriners, I see.


Gravatarhang on poopy is perhaps the dumbest song ever written.


GravatarBut, Canada is, I think, redfining the whole notion of "citizenship" and "nationhood". To some degree this is happening in Europe as well, but Canada is much further along in the process.


GravatarFReeper sez Mexicans can't speak Spanish:

For what it’s worth, I was in Mexico City on the metro yesterday, and tried to listen to the kiddos talk, it wouldn’t pass any litmus test of the Real Academia Langague Art of Madrid Spain, it was street lingo, and quite regional slang to the riff raff of Mexico City. Try riding in a taxi and understand the code words they use in Mexico. Some of this, will just happen. Wasn’t there a movie made about MY FAIR LADY of a guy who proved he could take a street girl and make her into a fit for an evening with the queen by just changing her speech?

That's a real tough test, that "litmus test of the Real Academia Langague Art of Madrid Spain." Very few people pass it on the first try.


GravatarGerman spyware plans trigger ro


German government plans to spy on terror suspects by deploying malicious e-mails have drawn sharp criticism.

The e-mails would contain Trojans - software that secretly installs itself on suspects' computers, allowing agents to search the hard drives.

German Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble is quoted as saying the spyware would be used only in a few cases and for a limited time.

The measure would form part of a new anti-terrorism bill.

A spokeswoman for the opposition Free Democrats, Gisela Piltz, called the proposal a totally unacceptable intrusion into privacy.

But a spokesman for Chancellor Angela Merkel said she supported the measure.

According to German media reports, the malicious e-mails could appear to come from different official bodies.

Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries, of the Social Democrats (SPD), has voiced concern about the spyware plans, saying they might infringe privacy laws, the Deutsche Welle news website reports.


Gravatari don't think Atrios is coming back from Espana.


GravatarIs that contard aware that we don't speak the King's English either?


GravatarRepublicans are so predictable. (and this really is on topic ... sort of)

The Democratic presidential candidates are holding a debate in Miami on Sept. 9; it will be conducted in Spanish.

The Republicans? They were scheduled to do the same thing on Sept. 16, but all of them except Saint John have bailed out, claiming "scheduling conflicts."

Are they all going to be hiding under Mommy's bed, away from the Scary Brown People?


GravatarI suppose that freeper doesn't realize the torture he is applying to the Queen's English.


GravatarA comment over at the link:

The most interesting thing I've ever learned about Belgium is that at some point they started charging to use public women's restrooms, but not men's rooms. One woman thus inaugurated a campaign called "Peeing in the Street" until the policies were changed.


GravatarI know in Italy everyone speaks the Italian they're taught in school and their local dialect. Loyalty to one's pais is quite strong.

Our friends in Tuscany seem never to conjugate their verbs and I had a lot of trouble figuring out who was do what. That cracked them up.


Gravatari don't think Atrios is coming back from Espana.

If I were there I wouldn't.

Para qué?


GravatarFalstaff: The nice thing about Spain is there are so many places named after classic Ford cars.

Oh, so it's like my neighborhood here in Gnashvegas, Charlotte Park!

Really breakfasting now, bbl
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Gravatari don't think Atrios is coming back from Espana.

We passed around the loving cup and proclaimed him one of us.


Gravatari don't think Atrios is coming back from Espana.
watertiger


Dibs on his rooftop patio!


GravatarFreeper could be French - on Canadian version of their language. Take no prisoner tongues.


Gravatari don't think Atrios is coming back from Espana.

What about teh kittehs?


Gravatar"Germany" as we now know it was very late to cohere into a whole, and was racked by regional and cultural differences as well.


GravatarSo, the Middle East is not the only region in the world where tribal loyalty still exists?

/snark


GravatarPara qué?

Yeah.


GravatarOver in Moncton, the kids are speaking an entirely new language called Chiac. Basically, New Brunswick is as close as you're going to get to a true bi-lingual place, so they know french and english pretty well. But they learn their parents' Acadian french, while all their pop culture stuff (TV, music, etc.) is Quebec french. They've mixed the two together with all sorts of english words and grammar. They used to call this simply a dialect, but people are now referring to it as a new language entirely, with its own forms and words.


GravatarOooh.
I forgot about the roof deck.


GravatarWhat about teh kittehs?

Quarantine in Madrid.


GravatarYou can have the roof deck. I want the red sofa!


GravatarWhen he starts blogging in Euskadi, I'm leaving.


GravatarYou can have the roof deck. I want the red sofa!

I want the apartment. It gets good sunlight.


GravatarPat Buchanan offered up the lamest thoughts you can imagine on why Larry Craig is not a hypocrite on Hardball . It was downright cringe-inducing!


Gravatarjdw, you mean osu marching band doesn't play salsa?


GravatarYou can have the roof deck. I want the red sofa!

I want the apartment. It gets good sunlight.
watertiger


Thers is the Al Haig of Eschaton.


GravatarAtrios will absolutely freak out if he ever makes it up to Canada.
Moe Szyslak


"A nation united only by its hatred of Toronto."


GravatarPat Buchanan offered up the lamest thoughts you can imagine on why Larry Craig is not a hypocrite on Hardball

What did he say?


GravatarI wouldn't even pretend to understand Catalan.


GravatarThe USA isn't a "nation of nations".

It's a nation of gated communities.


Gravatarplantsman, Pat Buchanan just needs to be on talk shows since he has no other way to make a living. It's a wonder he hasn' decided to support death sentences for getaway car drivers. I got one of those over at correntewire.


GravatarThers is the Al Haig of Eschaton



GravatarThe USA isn't a "nation of nations".

It's a nation of gated communities.
watertiger


Nah, it's a nation of "Remakes" & "Reality Shows"


Gravatar"jdw, you mean osu marching band doesn't play salsa?"

they play all kinds of shit, but hang on poopy is the dumbest fucking thing i've ever heard, which means that there's no doubt it'll rattle in my brain all day.

sure glad the subwoofer is right over my head....


GravatarYou can have the roof deck. I want the red sofa!

I want the apartment. It gets good sunlight.



Dibs on "the rocks"


GravatarNah, it's a nation of "Remakes" & "Reality Shows"

Ren & Stimpy comes to mind.


GravatarI have never seen a reality show. How do they recreate reality on camera?


GravatarPat said, "He made a mistake." "It's not hypocrisy, it's a compulsion." He equated anonymous "tearoom" sex with all gay sex anytime, anywhere, under any circumstances. And more...


GravatarBonjour!

i can't stay, i have a condo meeting at 10am

is Soros having money problems or what?

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.c...e& search=Search


GravatarI'm on an listserve that is now arguing whether respecting aboriginal treaty rights amounts to embracing capitalistic norms over Marxist collective property. IT's all rather tedious.


Gravatarplantsman, Pat Buchanan just needs to be on talk shows since he has no other way to make a living. It's a wonder he hasn' decided to support death sentences for getaway car drivers. I got one of those over at correntewire.
Ruth


Don't you people remember that Pat Lives at that MSNBC studios in "Eichmann's Glass Booth"?


GravatarBrought up from the wee ours of the moringing, from Atrios' link at 2:59am,
http://miaculpa.blogspot.com/200...is- awesome.html

Bombings, sectarian slayings and other violence related to the war killed at least 1,773 Iraqi civilians in August, the second month in a row that civilian deaths have risen, according to government figures obtained Friday.

In July, the civilian death toll was


GravatarOne curious aspect of the surge is the idea that more troops will lead to less death.

Selling billions of dollars of weapons to ME countries will also ensure peace and stability.


Gravatarfrom below:

That certainly would explain some of the anger towards the returning hostages that's been reported.
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 9:00 am

That, and I'd gotten the impression other Koreans didn't think the hostages should have been there in the first place.


My aunt, her brother's daughter is involved with that Texas group that did the same thing 6 years ago. My aunt has met a lot of them and they drive her nuts, "They want to be martyrs."
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.01.07 - 9:24 am |


Gravatarjdw, for me it's Frosty the Snowman, played starting in about September ... oh.my.god. kill me now.


GravatarIs that contard aware that we don't speak the King's English either?
HoneyBearKelly


I speak the King's English.

King Ælfred, that is.


GravatarAtrios will absolutely freak out if he ever makes it up to Canada.
Moe Szyslak

we dont need him here!


GravatarCatalunya lliure!
Better send Mrs. Atrios out to start the car for you.


Gravatar"Grandma Got Runned Over By A Reindeer" gets me.


GravatarYesterday I had Sarah McLachlan's "He Doesn't Love You" in my head all day.


GravatarPat said, "He made a mistake." "It's not hypocrisy, it's a compulsion." He equated anonymous "tearoom" sex with all gay sex anytime, anywhere, under any circumstances. And more...

Dear Pat-
It is also illegal.


Gravatar"jdw, for me it's Frosty the Snowman, played starting in about September .."

i'll admit she's ben merciful with the xmas music the last few years.

maybe she knows the first time she plays it is my go ahead to put the leg lamp in the front window...hahaha.


GravatarAtrios will absolutely freak out if he ever makes it up to Canada.
Moe Szyslak



He should becomes "Iceroad Blogger"


GravatarBrought up from the wee small hours of the morning, from Atrios' link at 2:59am, and hopefully not cut off my Hellscam this time)--
http://miaculpa.blogspot.com/200...is- awesome.html

Bombings, sectarian slayings and other violence related to the war killed at least 1,773 Iraqi civilians in August, the second month in a row that civilian deaths have risen, according to government figures obtained Friday.

In July, the civilian death toll was


GravatarThere was a curious science fiction book called 'The Languages of Pao' by Jack Vance, in which purpose-built languages were introduced as a means of controlling populations, which wound up subverting them.

There was a great movement towards self-government, self-determination of 'nationalities' or 'peoples' after World War I and the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Seems to me that it's since become obvious that all but the smalllest, most isolated governmental entities consist of more than one people or ethnicity, and that there's an extent to which, absent a radical shift in the notion of government away from territory towards defined cohorts of population, it's impossible of achievement. Mechanisms for respect for ethnicity within nations are the only possible alternative.


GravatarI do believe I'll go back to bed for a few hours.

Have a good Saturday Morning, bats.

Oh, and do check out K-Lo's latest case of the vapors.


GravatarIt's precisely hypocrisy. Look it up.


GravatarSwiss deportation policy draws criticism

GENEVA - The campaign poster was blatant in its xenophobic symbolism: Three white sheep kicking out a black sheep over a caption that read "for more security." The message was not from a fringe force in Switzerland's political scene but from its largest party.

The nationalist Swiss People's Party is proposing a deportation policy that anti-racism campaigners say evokes Nazi-era practices. Under the plan, entire families would be expelled if their children are convicted of a violent crime, drug offenses or benefits fraud.

The party is trying to collect the 100,000 signatures needed to force a referendum on the issue. If approved in a referendum, the law would be the only one of its kind in Europe.

"We believe that parents are responsible for bringing up their children. If they can't do it properly, they will have to bear the consequences," Ueli Maurer, president of the People's Party, told The Associated Press.


Gravatarsure glad the subwoofer is right over my head....
jdw


Ya know, if polite requests don't work, there's always "fighting fire with fire".

I recommend a Carver "Junior Earthquake" and a Kodo CD.


GravatarThird try to get Hellscam to post the whole fricken' post, well part cut off--

In July, the civilian death toll was


GravatarOh, and do check out K-Lo's latest case of the vapors.
Diane C


A half-flight of stairs?


GravatarWhat is going on with Hellscam?

From Atrios' link at 2:59am,
http://miaculpa.blogspot.com/200...is- awesome.html

Bombings, sectarian slayings and other violence related to the war killed at least 1,773 Iraqi civilians in August, the second month in a row that civilian deaths have risen, according to government figures obtained Friday.

In July, the civilian death toll was


GravatarBuchanan compared homosexuality to alcoholism on Dan Abrams' show the other day.

Joan Walsh delivered a good smackdown.


GravatarHelp?!? What is with Hellscam?

Using NTodd's 11 x factor (bearing in mind the percentage at this point may be higher since large numbers of Iraqis have fled the country and many more deaths take place than are officially recorded):

August's 1773 = 19,503 deaths, realtive to the US population.
Or...about 6.5 9/11's

July's 1753 = 19,283 deaths
Or...about 6.43 9/11's

June's 1227 = 13,497 deaths
Or...about 4.5 9/11's

Hey, but what's roughly seventeen and a half 9/11's when your "friend" is bringing you "democracy"?


Gravataratta, I took Eichmann's Glass Booth for a do-it-yourself confessional. Comes with sins optional.


GravatarCanada and most of our European NATO allies allow gay people to serve openly in their militaries.
If a bunch of awful stuff had happened, I'm sure the GOP would have exploited it by now.


GravatarAaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhh! Hellscam, stop acting up!

But, finally, the idea gets posted.

Iraqis are suffering unbearable numbers of deaths--and we brought it to them. People were not dying like this before we brought them the freedom to leave this life.


GravatarIs that contard aware that we don't speak the King's English either?

Ack! Charles is king? When did this happen?


Gravatar"I recommend a Carver "Junior Earthquake" and a Kodo CD."

dude! bookmarked! that looks absolutely bitchin.'

actually, this morning i was woken by some neighbors a few doors down, who are hosting a wedding. as near as i can find on the internets, they are from laos, and they were playing some sort of air fiddle and a drum this morning...it was surreal, waking up here and hearing that....


GravatarA half-flight of stairs?



GravatarKathleen Parker is so lucky DisneyWorld is in Orlando. She fits right in.


GravatarMorning, all.

Been away for most of yesterday -- have I missed anything alarming?


Gravatarjawbone, in ten years there won't be any population left at all - except in the U.S. Embassy.


GravatarA half-flight of stairs?


watertiger


The Stairway to Heave


GravatarBush is accusing opponents of his war of "politicizing" it. Heh heh.


GravatarSo Atrios, why do you support Catalan independence?


GravatarBeen away for most of yesterday -- have I missed anything alarming?
steve simels


You weant some irk, check last night's late night thread...


GravatarGood morning, all!

Long weekends gooooooood.


GravatarBuckeye, didn't that TX evangelical group write a book about their martyrdom yet?


Gravatarwatching the wedding yesterday was very cool. everyone assembled a few doors down from the house hosting the wedding. the groom was in the front, holding two sets of flowers, and was escorted by two guys in traditional dress holding gold umbrellas over his head.

people lined up behind them carrying gifts and food...one dude had a small roasted pig. the violin and drum played as they walked toward the house. at the front door they were greeted by what i assume was the bride's father and other males who apparently asked him a series of questions. once that was done the bride came downstairs and outside, and they went back in together.

it was pretty fascinating. near i can tell it's a laotion ceremony..


GravatarBeen away for most of yesterday -- have I missed anything alarming?
steve simels


Well, let's see ... Larry Craig is closing the stall door today for good, and the GOP hates Hispanics. Other than that, not much.


GravatarSo - whadya eat for breakfast in Barcelona? Bacon?


GravatarOne of my comrades went to China yesterday and she asked me if I wanted anything from there.

All of those poisonous Chinese products came to mind when I sputtered "thanks, but I can't think of anything."


GravatarYou weant some irk, check last night's late night thread...
Elmer, PHD | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 9:54 am | #


Okay, let's go look...


Gravatarhey Steverino, did you see any good movies yesterday?


Gravatarafternoon moonbats


GravatarHeh. CNN just did a quick run through of things to do in DC. One of them was to just go to the Supreme Court and watch the proceedings. It's just that simple.

They must have a lot of disappointed viewers.


Gravatar"thanks, but I can't think of anything."
HoneyBearKelly


Oh, I can. Can she bring me back a Yixing (zhi sha) tea service?


Gravatarplantsman has admonished us not to buy the Chinese kitchen products at dollar stores cause the finishing is not properly applied. We need a potato masher or ricer. I found one in the supermarket for $10. but it is made in China. I might as well just get it at the dollar store and save $9.


GravatarHoney, you coulda asked for one of these.


Gravatarnear i can tell it's a laotion ceremony..
jdw


I need more coffee -- I read that as "lactation ceremony".


Gravatarjdw, did the bride wear long flowing pants? I have been told that women in the area aren't supposed to wear skirts, just curious.


GravatarJR aren't those tea services coated in lead paint?


GravatarThe SWP and Respect


GravatarI need more coffee -- I read that as "lactation ceremony".

hope you don't take milk in your coffee.


GravatarJR aren't those tea services coated in lead paint?
HoneyBearKelly


No, they have no finish at all.


GravatarFReeper sez Hitlery NOT like Mother Teresa:

Mother Teresa didn’t have a philandering husband and she didn’t kill Vince or Ron. I see NO similarities. Mother Teresa devoted her life to GOOD THINGS for the poor of Calcutta. She never put herself first. Hillary doesn’t deserve to be used in the same sentence with M. Teresa! And I am NOT Catholic, but I have alway ssaid Mother Teresa is the greatest person who has ever lived in modern times.

Greater than St. Ronnie? Bite your fucking tongue.


GravatarHoney, you coulda asked for one of these.

Aww.
Teh cute!


GravatarGalloway document: first thoughts


Gravatarsure glad the subwoofer is right over my head....
jdw

Ya know, if polite requests don't work, there's always "fighting fire with fire".

I recommend a Carver "Junior Earthquake" and a Kodo CD.
JR, kerosene and a match


Try this one... (Can't find a CD clip)


Gravatarhope you don't take milk in your coffee.
watertiger


Matter o' fact, I do....

& sinfonian, your post about the scared-of-brown-people's-questions Republicans is hysterical.


Gravatarql, utensils are more expensive in grocery stores I think. Look at Ross's, they have great prices for very good quality. Also Tuesday Morning.


Gravatar"jdw, did the bride wear long flowing pants? I have been told that women in the area aren't supposed to wear skirts, just curious."

looked like a two piece...long skirt and a type of top like a coat, i think, gold. damn, the women were gorgeous.


GravatarMother Teresa didn’t have a philandering husband and she didn’t kill Vince or Ron.

Wait! Hillary killed L. Ron Hubbard?


Man, am I out of the loop.


GravatarI can't believe I'm going to admit this, but I actually saw "Balls of Fury" yesterday.

I was expecting the worst ever, something to surpass in awfulness the crappiest spoof ever -- "Epic Movie."

Instead, it was an extremely funny and reasonably smart James Bond/Kung Fu parody.

Christopher Walken is hysterical, but of course that's a given. But the rest of it is unexpectedly droll, mostly because the filmmakers keep the tone very straight -- nothing's done ironically, or in quotes.


Gravatar"Try this one... (Can't find a CD clip)
Elmer, PHD "

i got that one on dvd. maybe after the game...later bats.


Gravatar& sinfonian, your post about the scared-of-brown-people's-questions Republicans is hysterical.
Gummo


Thank you, sir!

And, as for last night's late irk, man, that's some bad shit. I haven't read that whole thread yet, but I hope sallyh did the right thing and brought the hammer down ...


GravatarWho the hell is Ron? Ron Brown? This freeper was on first names with him?


GravatarMother Teresa didn’t have a philandering husband and she didn’t kill Vince or Ron.

Wait! Hillary killed L. Ron Hubbard?


Man, am I out of the loop.
watertiger | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:06 am | #
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And Ronald Reagan. She has Dark Powers from Mena Arkansas.


GravatarNew laws day - TX police can ticket you instead of taking you in for pot smoking - if you're in your home County. But no hunting licenses for blind folk.


GravatarChristopher Walken is hysterical, but of course that's a given.

"Ping pong. Or, in Chinese, 'ping pong'."

I heart me some Chris Walken.


GravatarMother Theresa is responsible for the death of thousands because she didn't believe in abortion or the distribution of condoms.


GravatarBob Schieffer: Sometimes people think Texans brag too much but we've got a lot to brag about. It's hard not to be proud of Texas.

Just keep thinking of what produced chimpslime.


Gravatarq-l, almost all kitchen odd pieces are now manufactured in China - the OXO stuff and the like. A very few things are made in Taiwan. Target has most that is available from Taiwan - by and large it does not depend entirely on Chinese made goods. Your best real bet tho is a good all round re-sale shop, or E-bay. When I learnt that Franciscanware now is being made in China, I gave up buying anything like that at retail.


GravatarTry this one... (Can't find a CD clip)
Elmer, PHD


Trusts me...


Gravatarchimpslime = CT

TX is guilty of other things, but not the cretin in chief.


GravatarGummo:

I'm in the process of putting together a care package for you.

I just got the newly remixed version of Jimi Hendrix at Monterey -- want a copy?


GravatarBut no hunting licenses for blind folk.

It's hard to believe that they were seriously considering this.


GravatarThe head of the British army during the Iraq invasion has said US post-war policy was "intellectually bankrupt".

In a Daily Telegraph interview, former chief of the general staff, Gen Sir Mike Jackson, added that US strategy had been "short-sighted".

He said former US defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld was "one of the most responsible for the current situation".

The US Department of Defense said: "Divergent viewpoints are a hallmark of open, democratic societies."

Sir Mike told the Daily Telegraph that Mr Rumsfeld's claim that US forces "don't do nation-building" was "nonsensical".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne...ics/ 6973618.stm


GravatarYup, Spain has more than one separatist movement... all goes back to the random history that made the dialect of Burgos the language of the court.

"The nice thing about Spain is there are so many places named after classic Ford cars."

True student observation: the nice thing about Spain is they have all this California-style architecture.


Gravatarq-l, almost all kitchen odd pieces are now manufactured in China

But I see tv shows where kitchen stuff is made in Murka?


GravatarHBK, Mther Teresa was supposedly an awfully snobbish martyr, (from my Catholic family) - but I a totally puzzled by the unbelief factor. One of the big prayers is to be given faith. So guess she didn't rate, huh?


GravatarWell, screwed up the fukcing tags again...

Trust me..


GravatarI just got the newly remixed version of Jimi Hendrix at Monterey -- want a copy?
steve simels


Yeah!

I think I still have that classic Monterey record album that had Jimi on side one and Otis Redding on side two.

It was a great pairing - narrow-minded rockheads like me turned the record over and discovered some kick-ass soul music.


GravatarWalken is one of those rare entertainers who is always better than the material requires him to be. And if you see him in a straight drama, you forget he's an entirely competent song-and-dance person...


Gravatarsimels,

Are you coming to that Jeff Garlin thing?

If so, I have a couple of your CDs that I'll return there.


GravatarMother Theresa is responsible for the death of thousands because she didn't believe in abortion or the distribution of condoms.
HoneyBearKelly


Oh no, she's responsible for the births of thousands. Death, you see, doesn't count.


GravatarThis summer I was haunting Pa. Dutch antique stores with my parents, and we found masses of kitchen utensils and tools in excellent shape. Some of them were not all that old, not really "antiques", and cost just a couple of dollars.


GravatarKodo

You'll need a good sug to handle the 8 ft drum.


GravatarProfWombat,

1. You have email.

2. You've seen this, right?


Gravatarsimels,

Are you coming to that Jeff Garlin thing?

If so, I have a couple of your CDs that I'll return there.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:13 am | #


I forget -- when is that?


Gravatarlove Christopher Walken in Fatboy Slim's music video Weapon of Choice


GravatarIt's hard to believe that they were seriously considering this.

Hell, Dick Cheney is completely sighted and he shot a man in the face.

"Unintentionally."


GravatarBush spent his formative years (5-13, I think) in Midland, Texas. Got a good part of himself there, for better or worse, and so identifies himself.


GravatarJeff Garlin -- guy who plays Larry David's agent?


Gravatar"sub"

Jeebus fuck, I can't type today.

More coffee....


GravatarI don't remember CT electing the chimpster governor.


Gravatarsimels,

Monday PM -- can't remember if it's 7 or 8. Will find out. Only $8.


Gravatarmy pen friend's family were proud Catalans

certainly indicated their dislike of Anzar at the time


Gravatarres: you have e-mail yourself...


GravatarBush spent his formative years (5-13, I think) in Midland, Texas. Got a good part of himself there, for better or worse, and so identifies himself.
ProfWombat | 09.01.07 - 10:15 am | #
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Fake-erama. Born in CT. High school in one of those prep schools - Grotton?. Yale. Harvard.


GravatarHey ... I did see Venus Williams last night. And yeah, the camera adds 10 lbs. She is very powerfully built, of course, but very slim. And she is quite poised and pretty.

She pretty much demolished her opponent.

Then I saw Ralphal Nadal, who is long and lean and fast -- and who won in a forfeit by this cute eastern European kid who was wearing white sneakers and black socks.

Very beautiful evening out there.


GravatarWhat I'm trying to figure out is when was the precise moment when Christopher Walken changed from being considered this edgy, unpredictable straight leading man -- The Deer Hunter, The Dogs of War -- into being the funniest man alive -- The Prophecy and its sequels.

I've actually seen his work in such classics as The Country Bears, Walking Tall, and Kangaroo Jack.


Gravatarmy dissertation topic was on Roman Spain


Gravatarsteve --

I have a soundboard recording of a rascals reunion from '88 at the ritz -- haven't even listened to it yet, it's just sitting on my hard drive.

Let me know if you're interested.


GravatarWalken is always funny (even when the material is crap) on "SNL." The man is a sport and he's not afraid to look like a jackass.


GravatarTX is guilty of other things, but not the cretin in chief.

Reared and acculturated in TX. It's that that he presents to the world and makes him rightly derided as a reckless and brazen cowboy.


GravatarBush spent his formative years (5-13, I think) in Midland, Texas. Got a good part of himself there, for better or worse, and so identifies himself.
ProfWombat


The Blowing-Up-Frog-Asses years. Sorta like Lincoln's Studying-By Firelight years.


GravatarBarclays Capital, the financial group's investment banking arm, yesterday bailed out a $1.6bn (£800m) hedge fund as the global credit squeeze and US sub-prime mortgage crisis claimed another victim.

The news increased jitters about Barclays in the City, as it followed Thursday's revelation that it borrowed £1.6bn from the Bank of England after a breakdown in the electronic system that processes trades.

Barclays, however, stressed it was not facing financial difficulties. It said its decision to borrow from the Bank of England - at a penalty rate of interest - was due to a technical hitch, and the bail-out of the Cairn Capital fund was unrelated.


http://business.guardian.co.uk/ s...2160297,00.html


GravatarProfW, what else that c-i-c claims do you believe?

FDR, I suspect the voting machines. And the whisper campaing against Gov. Ann Richards.


GravatarThere is an article in the NYT about Condi and her "star falling."

WHAT star?

And apparently the students at Stanford don't want her back, but the president has declared this "not a legitimate position."

I hope the students riot when she goes back. For months on end ...


GravatarOkay, I'm out. Gotta get ready for the holiday weekend with the kidz. Football today, museum Monday ... rest tomorrow? We'll see.

Laterz, patriotz.


GravatarHigh school in one of those prep schools - Grotton?.

IIRC it was Andover.


GravatarTX is guilty of other things, but not the cretin in chief.

They gave him his start in politics, that's enough.


GravatarAND Chris Walken is a very talented chef.

a quadruple threat!


GravatarSimels I think it might have been Pulp Fiction with the watch thing.


GravatarThe mother of a British soldier who was severely injured while fighting in Afghanistan has said she will lose her life savings and will have to sell her home because of the "insulting" compensation offer made to her son by the Ministry of Defence.

Lance Bombardier Ben Parkinson, 23, has been described as one of the most seriously wounded soldiers ever to survive. He lost both legs, suffered serious brain damage, fractured several vertebrae and sustained 34 further injuries when his vehicle struck a landmine in Helmand province last September.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ milita...2160263,00.html


GravatarTX & CT can share the blame for Bush.

There's more than enough to go around.

But most of it goes to his creepy psychotic inbred aristocrat family.


GravatarLetter to the NYT about BushCo's "management" of dissenting voices at the idiot's appearances.

Writer suggests that the media deliberately seek out the dissenters and hear their POV.

What a novel idea. I bet no one at the NYT ever thought of it. Seriously.


GravatarCondi won't be going back to Stanford, she'll be at the Hague


GravatarI hope the students riot when she goes back. For months on end ...

We were reading that story earlier.

I hope they drum her the fuck outta Stanford.


GravatarWalken cooks, too?

A vertible renaissance man.

He must be fun to live with. His wife was a casting agent on "The Sopranos." The woman obviously has an eye.


GravatarI have a soundboard recording of a rascals reunion from '88 at the ritz -- haven't even listened to it yet, it's just sitting on my hard drive.

Let me know if you're interested.
Gummo | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:18 am | #


Good lord -- that could either be fun or really awful.

Did I ever tell you that an old college girlfriend of mine has lived with Dino Danelli for like the last twenty-five years?


Gravatarfucking Condi and John Fuck Yoo at Stanford.

If I have a kid, remind me to tell him/her that I will not pay a dime of tuition there.


GravatarSomebody from CT musta been refreshin' those Chimp/Cheney bumper stickers I still see on the roads around here.


GravatarBy 9:15am yesterday, Mr Sunderland still hadn't slept a wink. He had driven through the night to get to Blackpool but there was no time to waste in bed. It wasn't just excitement: he had to prepare for the competition.

The first stop was the solarium, Spartan. "When I'm white I look spotty, rundown and minging," he said, taking off his white shirt to reveal his already teak-coloured, tattooed chest - a quick manoeuvre as he had only buttoned it up to his navel. "Fallen Angel" read the nipple-to-nipple legend, inspired, said its owner, by the Dan Brown book Angels and Demons.

Mr Sunderland, also known as 24-year-old Danny Ellis, was in town to compete in the final of Mr Gay UK. This annual beauty pageant started life in 1982 as Mr Hardware, but has run under its current title since 1984. For years it was a mostly jokey affair, but since 2003's winner, Jarrod Batchelor, went on to compete in reality TV show The Games, it has started to be seen as a shortcut into showbiz.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ gayrig...2160223,00.html


GravatarGood lord -- that could either be fun or really awful.

Did I ever tell you that an old college girlfriend of mine has lived with Dino Danelli for like the last twenty-five years?
steve simels


Damn, man, you should write a book of one-liners entitled "Did I Ever Tell You...."


GravatarWalken cooks, too?


Cover story of the Times magazine a couple of years ago.

He sounds like a really interesting guy. Throws his fellow actors off all the time because his line reads are always slightly off-kilter.


GravatarI hope the students riot when she goes back. For months on end ...

We were reading that story earlier.

I hope they drum her the fuck outta Stanford.
watertiger | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:22 am | #
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Columbia tried to hire Kissinger as a distinguished professor in the mid 1970 and protests frightened him away.
The late great Seymour Melman said: "Eichmann claimed that he only scheduled the trains. Kissinger only scheduled the planes."


GravatarBut I see tv shows where kitchen stuff is made in Murka?
Snow, Liberal


Big things, yes. Not stuff like measuring cups and spoons or graters or potato smashers. Those things used always to be made by the EKCO company but not any more, much. Anchor Hocking does still make kitchen glassware in the states. And I used to get good Canadian made appliances from the Toastess company but they've been sold.


GravatarAiight, off to retrieve the Aussie from the train station.


GravatarCT should apologize first. TX is going to have to put up with his liebury.

and with that horrible tho't I gotta go do things. enjoy.


Gravatarfucking Condi and John Fuck Yoo at Stanford.

You Nazi Yoo is at Berkeley.


GravatarWhy would Stanford even want Condi back on their staff?

She did an awful job when she was there the first time.

The students hated her when she was provost.


GravatarWhy would Stanford even want Condi back on their staff?

Hoping she'll attract winger cash.


GravatarBush went to Phillips Andover, which is a half mile from my house and a better than decent place, for all the rich jerks who've gone there.

And I recall where I was from 5-13, and have little problem believing that Bush identifies where he spent those years with a good part of his identity. Consider, also, the multiple moves he made with a family that might not have always been, like, a bulwark of strength and emotional support. I agree, for instance, that the Crawford ranch is crap. I bow to nobody in my loathing of Bush as a mendacious, hypocritical, incompetent, low-born canker'd whoreson nematode, but on this one issue I don't doubt him.


GravatarHe sounds like a really interesting guy. Throws his fellow actors off all the time because his line reads are always slightly off-kilter.
watertiger | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:25 am | #


He also told Letterman or Conan that on every movie he makes, he pretends that it's his birthday to guilt the cast into giving him a cake.

I think that's hilarious...


GravatarWhy would Stanford even want Condi back on their staff?

Hoping she'll attract winger cash.
Gummo | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:27 am | #

The Hoover institute is a vast clown show already.


GravatarYou're right ... Yoo at Berkeley.

That's even more fucked up.


GravatarSIMELS!

To answer your question last night, yes I do have that Yardbirds German TV appearance CD-ROM that you sent me... what can I do for you?
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Gravatar More than 1,800 Iraqis killed in August

BAGHDAD - Civilian deaths rose slightly in August as a huge suicide attack in the north two weeks ago offset security gains elsewhere, making it the second deadliest month for Iraqis since the U.S. troop buildup began, according to figures compiled Saturday by The Associated Press.


GravatarYou're right ... Yoo at Berkeley.

That's even more fucked up.


Yoo's view: He's commander in chief so he gets to do anything.


GravatarTo answer your question last night, yes I do have that Yardbirds German TV appearance CD-ROM that you sent me... what can I do for you?
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MisterX | 09.01.07 - 10:29 am | #


Can you make me a copy? Mine's in storage, and I want to send one to Brooklyn Girl...


GravatarKodo

You'll need a good sug to handle the 8 ft drum.
JR, kerosene and a match


It's got a beat, you can dance to it...I give it an 87.

Different. Might hafta check out some of that...


GravatarNot enough people know who Seymour Melman was. But whenever you needed a passionate, progressive, entirely committed and thoroughly decent voice, you heard his for as long as he drew breath.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sey.../ Seymour_Melman


GravatarThe Hoover institute is a vast clown show already.

Any place where George Schultz looks progressive is zany.


GravatarWhy would Stanford even want Condi back on their staff?

Piano recitals?


GravatarGWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:25 am | #
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It's amazing that such low cost, machine made items are cheaper to ship over the pacific than to build close to home. It must be the secondary effect of the collapse of local machine tool industries and skills and industrial engineering.


GravatarThe Hoover institute is a vast clown show already.
rootless2


Not necessarily, and not entirely. It's a tremendous Russian history repository and resource and impeccable for that - as well as for material dealing with Hoover himself. As a research archive I have no issues with it at all.

It's the other stuff that they do that's really foolish.


GravatarImagine if Fuck Yoo had showed up at Berkeley in, say, 1968.


GravatarCan you make me a copy? Mine's in storage, and I want to send one to Brooklyn Girl...
steve simels


It would be my pleasure... I think I still have your address. Maybe I'll root around and see if I have any cool Jack Kirby stuff to send along with it.
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Gravatar"You'll need a good sug to handle the 8 ft drum."

this works: http://www.svsound.com/products-...-cyl- plpow2.cfm


GravatarYoo's view: He's commander in chief so he gets to do anything.
JT | 09.01.07 - 10:29 am | #
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There was a great clip of some idiot at AEI attacking Greenwald for misrepresenting Yoo, and getting hammered into the ground by Greenwald.


GravatarDifferent. Might hafta check out some of that...
Elmer, PHD


I have an.. *ahem*... eccentric... taste in music.


GravatarIt's amazing that such low cost, machine made items are cheaper to ship over the pacific than to build close to home.

Low cost? We have to spend billions of dollars on a Navy to keep those sea lanes open.


GravatarIt would be my pleasure... I think I still have your address. Maybe I'll root around and see if I have any cool Jack Kirby stuff to send along with it.
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MisterX | 09.01.07 - 10:32 am | #


E-mail me at ssimels@gmail.com and I'll send you my home addy, which has changed.

And send me yours, so I can burn something cool for you....


Gravatarsteve -- you're using the gmail address as your main one now? Should I use that rather than the other?


Gravatarhttp://www.hoover.org/bios?sortB...sortBy=name& c=y
There are some decent people on that list, but it is full of utter creeps.


Gravatara good read:

Derrick Z. Jackson
Kucinich is right on healthcare


In a CNN poll this spring, 64 percent of respondents said the government should "provide a national insurance program for all Americans, even if this would require higher taxes," and 73 percent approve of higher taxes to insure children under 18. Those results track New York Times and Gallup polls last year, in which about two-thirds of respondents said it is the federal government's responsibility to guarantee health coverage to all Americans.

Such polls allow Kucinich to joke that, far from being in the loony left, "I'm in the center. Everyone else is to the right of me." More seriously, in a recent visit to the Globe, he accused the other Democratic candidates of faking it on healthcare reform.


GravatarNot enough people know who Seymour Melman was.

I remember him! You know, one of the enjoyable things about reading the Odyssey in college was how at the end there was this idea of turning swords into plow shares.The hero returns home to bring something of value to his society. We have the exact opposite. We are turning plowshares in swords, the majority of our budget, our technology and our politics is to make war. At least the Iliad was fought over something real (Helen) rather than something mythical (WMDS).


GravatarReared and acculturated in TX. It's that that he presents to the world and makes him rightly derided as a reckless and brazen cowboy.
JT


Texas cowboys wouldn't have him. Ranch hand, matbe...


GravatarE-mail me at ssimels@gmail.com and I'll send you my home addy, which has changed...
steve simels


Will do later this afternoon (I'm at work right now, heh)...
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Gravatar-T, +Y


GravatarLow cost? We have to spend billions of dollars on a Navy to keep those sea lanes open.
Snow, Liberal | 09.01.07 - 10:34 am | #
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Well, if you start counting subsidies, you have to add in our subsidy of fuel costs, the merchant marine, and the trucking industry, and China's export policy, currency hold down, environmental sacrifice ...

But even then ...


GravatarKucinich is right on healthcare

If Edwards & Kucinich could only get a wider hearing, their viability would soar. They are the ones whose views most closely match the views of the voters.

But it's Sen. Clinton whose views most closely matches the views of the corporations, lobbyists and bloated Beltway media. So it's All Hillary All The Time.


GravatarNot necessarily, and not entirely. It's a tremendous Russian history repository and resource and impeccable for that - as well as for material dealing with Hoover himself. As a research archive I have no issues with it at all.

It's the other stuff that they do that's really foolish.


The mystery is why decent institutions get overrun by the clowns.


GravatarSo mankind is doomed to struggle forever between the extremes of Gibbon-like isolation and The Borg? Makes sense to me as all life is that frothy, indistinct border of chaos and stagnation. That societies would fragment and coalesce over time seems not so strange. Our hunger is more that such transitions might occur sans murder.


GravatarTexas cowboys wouldn't have him. Ranch hand, matbe...

That's it! His economics is the invisible ranch hand!


Gravatarthis works:
jdw


This works even better

(don't look at the pricing, for dog's sake)


Gravatarsteve -- you're using the gmail address as your main one now? Should I use that rather than the other?
Gummo | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:35 am | #


Yeppers -- I'm using the other one mostly for the record companies and such. Bizness...


GravatarLow cost? We have to spend billions of dollars on a Navy to keep those sea lanes open.
Snow, Liberal | 09.01.07 - 10:34 am | #
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Well, if you start counting subsidies, you have to add in our subsidy of fuel costs, the merchant marine, and the trucking industry, and China's export policy, currency hold down, environmental sacrifice ...

But even then ...


US capitalism would not work without these subsidies. Corporations NEVER pay the real costs. We do.


Gravatarspinoza: when Odysseus came home, first thing he did was kill his wife's suitors. Otherwise, I entirely agree with you. And you go to, say, Europe, and see countries with transportation infrastructures and preserved countrysides, and wonder a bit...


GravatarThe mystery is why decent institutions get overrun by the clowns.

In this case because of lots of money from filthy rich wingnuts.


GravatarThat's it! His economics is the invisible ranch hand!
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall


He's gonna give us a rancharound, he oughtta take the gloves off first, don't ya think?


GravatarBut it's Sen. Clinton whose views most closely matches the views of the corporations, lobbyists and bloated Beltway media. So it's All Hillary All The Time.
Gummo | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:38 am | #


And she still refuses to be unambiguously against the war.

So, as I've said at tedious length, she's setting herself up to be the Hubert Humphrey of 2008.

And we all know how well that worked for the Dems in 1968.

Why anybody is supporting her remains beyond me. Unless they really like losing...

And now I'll shut up...


GravatarAnd now I'll shut up...
steve simels


I thought Saturday was the approved day for your anti-Clinton rants?


GravatarBy the customs of the time, it was not that they were suitors for the hand of the supposed widow of Odysseus, but that they were rude and inconsiderate guests within the home of their host(ess) that they earned their deaths.


GravatarMornin', everyone ...


GravatarAnd she still refuses to be unambiguously against the war.

So, as I've said at tedious length, she's setting herself up to be the Hubert Humphrey of 2008.


With considerably less justification. Seriously - Humphrey did have some justification for waffling - and did, albeit too late, declare himself conclusively opposed. Sen. Clinton has no perceptibe legitimate justification for the waffling and indecision.


Gravatarspinoza: when Odysseus came home, first thing he did was kill his wife's suitors.

Well, just to extend the analogy, people like Kristol and Buchanan are the suitors who want to suck on the tits of demoracy and then fuck her.


Gravatari guess being lost for like a long time made Odysseus cranky


Gravatar guess being lost for like a long time made Odysseus cranky

I hear his ship was nicknamed Haloscan.


Gravatarthey were rude and inconsiderate guests within the home of their host(ess) that they earned their deaths.

Yep. To violate the rules of hospitality, whether host or guest, was an offense to Zeus. And hadn't they already plotted to kill Telemachus to get him out of the way so one of them could wed his mother?


GravatarJust noticed a video clip of four guys lip-syncing a tune while dancing on treadmills (first liked to from here by Molly Ivors, I do believe) in a new iPhone Commercial.


GravatarMornin', everyone ...
Brooklyn Girl | 09.01.07 - 10:45 am | #


Mister X is duping that Yardbirds CD-rom for you.

It'll blow your mind, seriously.


Gravatar"linked to" heh.


GravatarCan you make me a copy? Mine's in storage, and I want to send one to Brooklyn Girl...
steve simels


Okay, just caught up on this thread ... THANKS!!!! I'm psyched!


Gravatar (first liked to from here by Molly Ivors, I do believe)

That's why Molly is on the cover of this week's Time magazine


GravatarThe mystery is why decent institutions get overrun by the clowns.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall


Generally because at some point a provost or a VP arrives who believes that the institution's survival depends on acquiring lots of money from any source s/he can reach. The error of course is that it's seldom the institution's survival - it's the institution's transformation, and the purpose the money was sought for quickly becomes its own reward.


GravatarUS capitalism would not work without these subsidies. Corporations NEVER pay the real costs. We do.

The issue with military costs associated with keeping lines of communication open is that it requires war or military action.


GravatarSen. Clinton has no perceptibe legitimate justification for the waffling and indecision.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


Excluding trying to be all things to as many people as possible? IOW, a politician?

"A politician is an arse upon which everyone has sat except a man."--e.e. cummings


GravatarAnd hadn't they already plotted to kill Telemachus to get him out of the way so one of them could wed his mother?

Absolutely. I have always been fascinated by the cultural imperative strength of the rules of hospitality in what were otherwise considered largely lawless and barbaric lands. Theft, rape, and murder are never OK for the common man but the outcast feels he has nothing to lose and the King feels he has nothing to fear.


GravatarMister X is duping that Yardbirds CD-rom for you.

It'll blow your mind, seriously.

steve simels


Excellent ... I appreciate it. I could use a good mind-blowing right about now.


GravatarOy. Must have slept with my neck in a very odd position. Hoits!


GravatarMoonbootica: Tottenham 2, Fulham 1


Gravatarat the half


GravatarExcellent ... I appreciate it. I could use a good mind-blowing right about now.

NO FLIRTING!


GravatarAbsolutely. I have always been fascinated by the cultural imperative strength of the rules of hospitality in what were otherwise considered largely lawless and barbaric lands. Theft, rape, and murder are never OK for the common man but the outcast feels he has nothing to lose and the King feels he has nothing to fear.

I think Bush and the neocons see themselves as both.


GravatarGenerally because at some point a provost or a VP arrives who believes that the institution's survival depends on acquiring lots of money from any source s/he can reach. The error of course is that it's seldom the institution's survival - it's the institution's transformation, and the purpose the money was sought for quickly becomes its own reward.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


I suddenly feel the need to argue the wisdom of the "theology of abundance v. the politics of scarcity."

But that would be blogwhoring. And the one thing you never talk about on the intertubes is religion.

Politics and sex: yes. Religion: no.


GravatarIt is not all Hillary all the time--if you mean support for her.

Today on NPR, Daniel Schorr slipped in a little shiv when discussing the Hsu donations "scandal." Since Hsu was a wanted felon in CA, but apparently CA hadn't made much effort to find him for, what?, 15 years, it is Hillary and her camppaign's fault, some indication of nefarious behavior, for the campaign to have accepted donations from Hsu.

OK, maybe every large donor should have an FBI background check (or maybe just private investigators--but wouldn't that be an invasion of privacy?)--Dems, however, just have to wait for the MCM* to dig into the pasts of their donors. 'Thugs, on the other hand, just get a small back of the section article and a pass if their donors--or finance cco-chairs are indicted....See top item on MediaMatters on the left.

Anyway, Daniel Schorr said, given Clinton's history, perhaps Hsu was giving large donations to ensure he got a presidential pardon.

How clever!

As Somerby has been pointing out, "character" matters incredibly much to the MCM--except when it's 'Thugs' character flaws.

*MCM--Mainstream Corporate Media


GravatarPoor LA Galaxy. All that money for Beckham and now due to a ligament injury, he's likely out for the rest of the season. Posh'll have to go shopping on Rodeo Drive to keep them in the news.


GravatarOK kids the airport "limo's" on teh way to take me to Newark EWR then on to Geneva. Shall I drive down to Barcelona and bring Atrios back with me or shall we just leave him there.
Please advise.


GravatarPosh'll have to go shopping on Rodeo Drive to keep them in the news.

God forbid she would, like, sing.


Gravatarjust me in the house today, as my dad is taking my sister up to York (he is on his way back now, long journey) and my mum is at a Scout Fellowship Activity Day/Shindig

just me and the cats. Having a nice glass of Leffe and watching Cleopatra (1963)


GravatarAbsolutely. I have always been fascinated by the cultural imperative strength of the rules of hospitality in what were otherwise considered largely lawless and barbaric lands. Theft, rape, and murder are never OK for the common man but the outcast feels he has nothing to lose and the King feels he has nothing to fear.

You're killing me here! I have a whole (well, a partial whole) theology of hospitality more or less worked out, too.

And yet, it's house cleaning day. And then there's that whole thing about discussing religion in mixed company....


GravatarBrooklyn Girl:

It derives from here...
http://www.amazon.com/Cumular-Li...88658282&sr=1- 1


GravatarTake the train to Barcelona, way less stressful.


GravatarHave fun in Geneva, bjb!


GravatarNO FLIRTING!
watertiger | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:56 am | #


Aw, shucks. I'm stuck inside on a beautiful day like this ... a girl's gotta have some fun ...


GravatarOh, and any Dem nominated will get the same exacting treatment of his or her "character."

The 'Thug will have to screw a live boy--on video or be caught in flagrante by the police--or a dead girl to get the kind of scrutiny Dems get for eating a local sandwich speciality with a different kind of cheese than is usual. Or windsurf. Or wear earth tones. Or pay a hairdresser fairly for his time, travel, and work. Or put their money in something which the MCM deems inappropriate for a Democrat's investments.


GravatarAny place where George Schultz looks progressive is zany.

Did I ever tell you about the time I rode in an elevator with George Schultz at Bechtel World HQ?

Just him and me. I remarked how a friend of mine always said he looked exactly like Bert Lahr.

George was pissed.


Gravatar"This works even better

(don't look at the pricing, for dog's sake)"

c'mon, now.


GravatarThe Bromley and Orpington Amnesty International Group will conduct its fundraising activities much as normal this autumn. Alongside a sponsored walk in Kent and a street collection in London, a local theatre group will lay on a charity premiere of its production of Arthur Miller's Death of a Salesman.

But beneath the busy exterior of grassroots cam-paigning, there are rumblings of discontent. The group of about 25 activists in the suburbs of south-east London is one of a growing number across Britain which is grappling with resignations and dissent in the aftermath of Amnesty International's decision last month to change its stance on abortion.

A vote by the organisation's executive committee, composed of members from 52 countries, to campaign for the right of women to have access to abortion in certain circumstances was greeted by the high-profile resignations of two bishops and criticism from the Vatican, which accused Amnesty of betraying its founding principles and called for Catholics to stop donating to the group.


http://news.independent.co.uk/ uk...icle2917336.ece


GravatarHaving a nice glass of Leffe and watching Cleopatra (1963)

My favorite "nap" movie...


GravatarHaving a nice glass of Leffe and watching Cleopatra (1963)


"They say I'm your Whore!" -- Liz Taylor, affecting
her best English/Ancient Egyptian accent.


GravatarThere's a new military operation in Iraq called Operation Powerline.


GravatarJones Beach, tho' filling up, looks gorgeous today on MSNBC.


GravatarFather Coughlin po polsku


GravatarSince Hsu was a wanted felon in CA, but apparently CA hadn't made much effort to find him for, what?, 15 years, it is Hillary and her campaign's fault, some indication of nefarious behavior, for the campaign to have accepted donations from Hsu.

Yeah, I've been getting a big kick out of that line of thinking.

BTW, I also heard passing mention of Hitlery doing just that, and, of course, getting slammed for invading donors' privacy.


Gravatar"They say I'm your Whore!" -- Liz Taylor, affecting
her best English/Ancient Egyptian accent.
plantsman, areligious


Warner, here's something for your retirement.


GravatarI read this and it got me thinking about this Craig "scandal" thing. Is it just me, or do they have a good point?

http://www.wsws.org/articles/200.../crai- s01.shtml


GravatarDon't forget, Fidel Castro thinks a Clinton Obama ticket is unbeatable.


Gravatarstuck inside? holy mother of crap!

it's a perfect day!

[/lou reed]


GravatarIt derives from here...
http://www.amazon.com/Cumular-Li....88658282&sr=1- 1
steve simels | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 10:59 am |


"As a bonus, the set also includes a live '68 TV rendition of "Dazed And Confused", another track which would probably have been recorded for the projected album, which yields a different lyric from the familiar Zeppelin take but is otherwise the exact same thrilling arrangement."

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarBTW, all you Bay Area types, it's just one week 'til the big West Coast Atriot "Meet and Greet" with res ipsa, watertiger and some guy that you'll care as much about meeting as you will me.

Late Saturday afternoon in North Beach - sign in here!


Gravatar There's a new military operation in Iraq called Operation Powerline.

They are checking the kerning on Iraqi passports.


Gravatarbut that they were rude and inconsiderate guests within the home of their host(ess) that they earned their deaths.
catalexis who ♥ Al Gore | 09.01.07 - 10:45 am | #
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What about the women slaves who were so cruelly murdered as massacre dessert?


GravatarCould we stop with the "Hitlery" moniker? It's utterly inapt.


Gravatarc'mon, now.
jdw


Bruce Thigpen does not lie.


GravatarAny advice for an out of control kitten? Constantly bouncing off the walls, pulling down curtains, claws always out. He hasn't stopped for two days straight now. I'm ready to give him up.


GravatarWhat about the women slaves who were so cruelly murdered as massacre dessert?

You mean the ones who were sleeping with the suitors and mocking Penelope? Collaborationists have never fared well when they wind up on the losing side.


GravatarSpring was glorious. Summer was the wettest ever. So, in the record year of British weather ups and downs that is 2007, what phenomenon can we expect from autumn, which begins today? The answer is fog.

The Atlantic lows which have dogged the British Isles almost continuously for the past three months, giving us our monsoon summer, are likely to give way now to many more settled periods of high pressure, according to the Met Office's autumn forecast, issued last week. Rainfall and windy weather are likely to be below average, and in the still, calm conditions, fog is more likely to form, especially after the autumn equinox of 21 September when nights become longer than days – and so chillier.

"There will be a greater risk of fog, compared to normal, during the latter part of autumn," said the chief forecaster, Nick Graham. "As the nights get longer and colder it may cause more impact, as it is likely to linger longer during the morning."


http:// environment.independent.c...icle2917346.ece


GravatarAny advice for an out of control kitten?
Karatist Preacher


A large dog to play with.


GravatarIt is the political and media furor over Republican Senator Larry Craig of Idaho which should arouse outrage and disgust, not anything Craig may have done in a men’s bathroom at the Minneapolis airport three months ago.

No, the point is inane. Behavior engaged in a public restroom is not private -- it's also illegal. Consensual sex in a private place is private.


Gravataraight. beach must be attended.

laterz.


Gravatar"Bruce Thigpen does not lie."

not saying he does, but at those prices and somewhat difficult installation parameters i think i'd rather just buy the band.


Gravatarstuck inside? holy mother of crap!

it's a perfect day!

[/lou reed]
watertiger | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 11:06 am | #


I know, I know ... I'm having guests tonight and the apartment looks like I've taken everything I own and thrown it, along with miscellaneous piles of paper, around with wild abandon. I must clean or I'll die of Jewishguiltitis.


GravatarWho cares who Beaver Otter appoints to replace Craig. It won't be an improvement.


GravatarHave a cleaning party!


GravatarSHEETZ


GravatarHave a cleaning party!
plantsman, areligious | 09.01.07 - 11:11 am | #


Now why didn't I think of that?

[smacks self in forehead]


GravatarIdaho's Lt. Governor has a pervy aspect.
He's under consideration to replace Craig.


GravatarBTW, kids, last chance for the summer jukebox!

They're selling Xmas decorations in CostCo already!


GravatarA large dog to play with.
JR, kerosene and a match

I live in a three story walk-up, otherwise I would.


GravatarAnyone here see Hillary on Letterman? She was, actually, quite good.


Gravatarnot saying he does, but at those prices and somewhat difficult installation parameters i think i'd rather just buy the band.
jdw


Music typically doesn't go below 20 Hz... that puppy is for home theatre.

For music, get these

Their sound beats the hell out of speakers that are more than 3 times their price.


GravatarI'm ready to give him up.
Karatist Preacher


Ahem. Neutering.


GravatarYou mean the ones who were sleeping with the suitors and mocking Penelope? Collaborationists have never fared well when they wind up on the losing side.
Toonscribe: UDFH Local 839 | 09.01.07 - 11:09 am | #
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Are slaves collaborationists when disloyal to the owner?
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So saying he made a ship's cable fast to one of the bearing-posts that supported the roof of the domed room, and secured it all around the building, at a good height, lest any of the women's feet should touch the ground; and as thrushes or doves beat against a net that has been set for them in a thicket just as they were getting to their nest, and a terrible fate awaits them, even so did the women have to put their heads in nooses one after the other and die most miserably. Their feet moved convulsively for a while, but not for very long.


GravatarHe's only 7-8 weeks old...isn't that too young?


GravatarOoooooooh! Breakfast!


GravatarLate Saturday afternoon in North Beach - sign in here!
dave™©


Your link won't open for some reason. Is there a decision on where we're meeting?


GravatarIt's alright Rmj, we (loosely speaking for these purposes: the lefty blogosphere in general and this group here in particular) are never going to come to a consensus on religion even if we have done so wrt secular policy matters of sufficiently large and vague scope. We range from the militantly anti-theist to the militantly worshipful and the large mushy middle who see each of them as equally nuts. As such, the survival of civilization depends on the inverse of the Golden Rule. It is not, in this case, that we should do unto others as we would have them do unto us for there can be no compulsion to reciprocate -- rather the intelligent response is to destroy destroyers and tolerate the tolerant.


GravatarI think the point of that article was the excessiveness of the coverage was grotesque, and the Republicans' call for his resignation due to the illegality was transparently hypocritical.

The man is being driven towards suicide, and that's wrong.


GravatarHe's only 7-8 weeks old...isn't that too young?
Karatist Preacher | 09.01.07 - 11:17 am | #


Way, way, way too young. He's still a very active baby and will calm down as he gets older.

Catnip slows them down, but he's too young for that, too.

A large dog is not a good idea. A cat I loved when I was a kid was killed by a large dog.

Can you confine him to part of your apartment? And use toys that will tire him out .. they like to chase things.


Gravatarhttp://www.wsws.org/articles/200.../crai- s01.shtml

I was just highlighting some stuff from this link and HellScam just cut it off at line 3 of my post.

Is it my PC or is it HellScam?

Anyway, if a state wants to protest its young males from unwanted advances in a public restroom being used as cruising site, why not hire attendants to simple be there? As chaperons, as it were....


GravatarThat should read "protect" not "protest."


GravatarYeah, he gets locked in the bathroom when I've reached my limit but I feel bad doing that. He has plenty of toys and food but his main goal in life is to climb on and knock over things he shouldn't, and he doesn't understand 'no' - he's really cute and loving when he's calm but he hasn't been calm for a while now.


GravatarI asked a friend who lives in Spain whether he could understand Catalan, and he replied "I am not sure they even understand each other!"


Gravataryes - if only we could get rid of all the states...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State


GravatarOf course it's been complex ever since Cartagena declared its independence in the 19th century.

What is confusing about the Basque situation is the accompanying violence. Whether it's bombings, selected assassinations, trashing storefronts, extorting money, etc., it really is a dead ender for ETA.

Catalunya has a more compelling argument for their independence, especially if you base the issue on the question of language. Far more of their citizens speak Catalan as a first language than Basques. Indeed, Basque is a minority language in the Basque provinces. The president of the Basque Autnomous Community, Juan José Ibarretxe didn't learn Basque until he was an adult.

The major difference is that the Catalans don't feel compelled to commit acts of terrorism to make their points.

As for Galicia, despite speaking a language that's also unique to their region, they appear happy to be Spaniards.


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