baba d, do not agree -- but do not care to disagree further.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 7:48 am | #
Let me try that again:
Showing them that change is possible without significant discomfort is a major step in the right direction.
Well, I hear ya, friend. But what if it's not possible to do without "discomfort"? It all depends on how you define it, I suppose.
I was at a transportation thing the other day, a press conference of people saying all the right things. All for it. Part of the conversation entails extolling the virtues of "active transportation"-- bikes and walking, basically-- which leads to better health, lower health care costs, a better economy, lower GHG emissions. Good stuff, truly. But I fear what people hear is "they want me to ride a bike to work." And they ain't gonna do that.
Personally, I think a pre-industrialized economy, if tweaked to bring in modern concepts of gender, race and sexual orientation equality, could end up being a better society than the one we have, with the right kind of things valued properly and with more rewarding work and social interactions. In a sense, that'd be more "comfortable," in the true sense of the word-- but I doubt that most people would agree with me.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.26.08 - 7:49 am | #
Frist Heritage and Frist National??
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.26.08 - 7:49 am | #
The National State Bank of Metropolis? What would Clark Kent say?
animus |
07.26.08 - 7:56 am | #
Ruth -- no rain? Glad the garden survived.
V for Virginia, faceless name |
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07.26.08 - 7:56 am | #
Talk about your Wild Kingdom!
plantsman
It's YOYO in action!
Ruth |
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07.26.08 - 7:56 am | #
de gustibus non disputandum est is what I always say.
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07.26.08 - 7:56 am | #
Remember the "Clinton Body Count?" Sadly No! has found the "Obama Death list" making the e-mail rounds. And in unrelated news, Vicki Iseman still missing.
Among the names on the list RODRIGO VILLALOPEZ, a television news camera man who shot the footage of Obama describing small town voters as “bitter” and “clinging to their guns during the primary season.
HASAD AL SHAREEZ - FBI informant. Reported to his handler in January 2001 that he had a tape about of a person named simply “B. Hussein” meeting with 9/11 hijacker Mohatma Atta in Prague. Was found shot in the basement of a mosque in Dearborn, MI in October, 2001.
LAWSHAWNA MARTIN- 26 year old mother of five, a Cabrini Green resident with a history of substance abuse. Told two of her co-workers at the Blue Peppermint Gentleman’s Club that she would have to quit work because she was pregnant again. Strongly implied that the “baby daddy” was Barack Obama. The next week, she was reported missing. No body was ever recovered, but Lawshana has not resurfaced since making those remarks.
Gimlet |
07.26.08 - 7:57 am | #
Moe, I didn't expect it to be so good. No losses, some yellowing.
V4VA, no rain here until August expected. I did a lot of soaking and covering before I left, and left a coupla gallon jugs of water with pinholes in the bottom to keep some moisture going.
Ruth |
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07.26.08 - 7:57 am | #
Gimlet, look a few posts down on the main page.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.26.08 - 7:58 am | #
"As Jim attempts to shoo the vultures away from the carrion, I'll sit under this shady tree and have another drink..."
"Henry Paulson is really knawing on that femur..."
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.26.08 - 7:58 am | #
Mother: Told her she could not have ice cream before breakfast. Dead.
Father: Beat her in 9 straight games of 8-ball. Dead.
Friend Ben: Accidentally et off fire alarm in convenience store in England, causing great embarrassment and much scurrying away from the scene. Dead.
V for Virginia, faceless name |
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07.26.08 - 8:02 am | #
plantsman, since the public execution of a bunch of fellas supposed to be plotting to disrupt The Gamen, why would anyone go? or watch?
Ruth |
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07.26.08 - 8:05 am | #
In an interview on CNN today -- which the DNC is passing around -- McCain said that withdrawal from Iraq in 16 months is "a pretty good timetable."
mccain was against obama before he was for him. could mccain become obama's vp??
singe |
07.26.08 - 8:06 am | #
SHEILA BAUGH - A Washington DC madame. Died from a gunshot wound. Reported to have a black book of people containing names of influential people who visited the prostitutes in her brothel. One of those names was allegedly Barack Obama.
Obama don't need no "madame." He gets all the white women he wants, for free. Hell, he's going to fuck your sister!
Moe Szyslak |
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07.26.08 - 8:06 am | #
I dunno; the games do not lure me.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:06 am | #
BILL FERGUSON- Senior aide to Barack Obama. Found dead of an apparent heart attack.
The fucker!
Moe Szyslak |
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07.26.08 - 8:07 am | #
Yup, the republicans are really running scared now, aren't they?
Barndog, now cooler |
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07.26.08 - 8:08 am | #
in a nutshell:
2006 mcmansion across teh street 3,500 sq feet, all the amenities. is down 4000 dollars for the last 30-days. my home, almost a third in size from 1950 is up 4000 in the same time period...things that make me say hmm
i guess large homes like large cars ain't quite so awesome; who could ever have foreseen that 'bigger' pretty much sucks
mogwai |
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07.26.08 - 8:08 am | #
ROY SCHEIDER - Allegeedly nixed a young Barack Obama to play his son in Jaws, insisted on a "whitey". DEAD
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.26.08 - 8:09 am | #
"Five million dollars in cash lies tantalizingly within the vault of the bank downtown"
May be true, but doesn't mean we should blow up the whole downtown so that we can spend the cash on a drunken spree this weekend.
Gromit, dirty hippie scientist | 07.26.08 - 7:38 am | #
That maybe true. And point well taken. But I'd still like to blow up downtown and spend the proceedings on a drunken spree this weekend.
Le Jackel |
07.26.08 - 8:09 am | #
I think that utilities companies should charge a higher rate for any home over 3,000 SF, with under 4 people living in them.
Barndog, now cooler |
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07.26.08 - 8:09 am | #
Abandoned Mines a Threat - plantsman
Big issue in the env. biz. So's fighting the BLM and DOI.
baba durag |
07.26.08 - 8:10 am | #
mogwai, suddenly the Hummer is embarrassing the kids, around here there are For Sale signs everywhere - especially the McMansions and trucks.
Ruth |
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07.26.08 - 8:10 am | #
TONY SNOW - Overheard saying "this country would be better off with McCain as President." Hours, later, found DEAD.
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.26.08 - 8:11 am | #
That bank failure of First National Bank of Nevada also includes
First National Bank of Arizona - Scottsdale.
It's actually front page news in the Arizona Republic. Surprise surprise surprise.
mirele hussein |
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07.26.08 - 8:11 am | #
We must not allow an abandoned mine threat gap!!
Culture of TrÜth |
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07.26.08 - 8:13 am | #
ronald reagan known to have accused obama's mother of being a cadillac driving welfare mom...still dead.
singe |
07.26.08 - 8:13 am | #
Thought this was very distressing - From Glennzilla
Cass Sunstein's recent statements that Bush officials should not be prosecuted for their illegal detention, interrogation and spying programs. To get a sense for why this matters, National Journal this morning listed Sunstein as one of a small handful of likely Supreme Court appointees in an Obama administration.
Gimlet |
07.26.08 - 8:14 am | #
B. Hussein -- that's an incredibly unusual name, innit? Hardly anyone in the Muslim world is named Hussein, after all.
Must be true.
V for Virginia, faceless name |
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07.26.08 - 8:15 am | #
Let's not put the cart before the horse, 'kay?
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:15 am | #
Off to the farmers market. See ya'all later.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.26.08 - 8:15 am | #
Thought this was very distressing - From Glennzilla
The sooner that Obama cuts the umbilical cord to the University of Chicago, the better off all of us will be--including him and his prospects.
montag |
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07.26.08 - 8:15 am | #
Howard dean on Today saying how great to see thousands of Yurpeens waving /am'n flags, only he could have done it.
Ruth |
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07.26.08 - 8:16 am | #
Ah yes, the same National Journal that rated Obama the "most liberal Senator."
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:16 am | #
ronald reagan known to have accused obama's mother of being a cadillac driving welfare mom...still dead.
singe
Sure LIEberals, laugh all you want. Real funny until one day McCain wakes up dead!
Plus, if you blow-up downtown imagine the development potential.
Le Jackel |
07.26.08 - 8:18 am | #
My mental recession is worse than I even thought!
Take heart, though--Phil Gramm has diagnosed your condition and found you to be a whiner. With a little more privatization and some antidepressants, you'll never notice.
montag |
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07.26.08 - 8:18 am | #
power boats would be very helpful in the case of rising water levels. these people just don't know their own strengths, mogwai
Ruth |
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07.26.08 - 8:18 am | #
Yeah, well, it's early.
Barndog, now cooler |
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07.26.08 - 8:18 am | #
One of those names was allegedly Barack Obama.
"...but only because I'm alleging it right now."
underwhelm |
07.26.08 - 8:19 am | #
Waiting with baited breath for this one...
Barndog, now cooler | Homepage | 07.26.08 - 8:17 am | #
bated - pedant.
Benny Hill: "I always bait me breath when oim fishin' for compliments."
montag |
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07.26.08 - 8:20 am | #
Better go tend the garden, before I am on the Veggie Death Watch. (have salad!)
Ruth |
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07.26.08 - 8:21 am | #
...and you DO like to fish.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:21 am | #
With a little more privatization and some antidepressants, you'll never notice.
Maybe if I take enough antidepressants I'll be able to afford to retire someday...
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07.26.08 - 8:21 am | #
DETROIT — Chrysler is getting out of the auto leasing business.
The company, now privately held, told its dealers on Friday that its financing arm, Chrysler Financial, would stop offering leases as of Aug. 1, a move that comes as plummeting resale values of gas-thirsty trucks and sport utility vehicles turn lease deals on those vehicles into big money losers for the Detroit automakers.
once again, no one could have anticipated that much of american-made shit has been made with short-term, profit-only thinking
mogwai |
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07.26.08 - 8:21 am | #
The fact is, this list of murders from the Obama machine makes us in the heartland want to vote for him even less.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
V for Virginia, faceless name |
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07.26.08 - 8:23 am | #
Ralphie, the lake near here has boaters sitting on the pier having their cocktails, since the gas has gone sky high.
Now, really, the veggies are calling me.
Ruth |
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07.26.08 - 8:23 am | #
"waiting with worm on tongue" - Robin Williams
baba durag |
07.26.08 - 8:23 am | #
I'll always have a soft spot for boat retailers because that's the basic hypo my prof used to teach me secured transactions.
Don't fear the repo!
underwhelm |
07.26.08 - 8:24 am | #
I keep thinking if gas and diesel prices should decline, people would go right back to their old ways without missing a beat.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:24 am | #
Yeh, Ruppert was SUCH a likely Obama voter!
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:25 am | #
The fact is, this list of murders...
Mind-bending parody? Or just a bent mind?
underwhelm |
07.26.08 - 8:25 am | #
the Obama Bodycount will be a new segment on the No Spin Zone
Escariot |
07.26.08 - 8:26 am | #
Ruppert is famous.
baba durag |
07.26.08 - 8:26 am | #
Alas, one more day off then I have to go back to being cranked on opiates and Lorazipam.
Le Jackel |
07.26.08 - 8:27 am | #
I keep thinking if gas and diesel prices should decline, people would go right back to their old ways without missing a beat.
I think the pain has to be prolonged—several years at least—so that people adjust their way of life for the long term. Right now they just have their gas guzzlers garaged, and they still live just as far from work and the grocery store.
underwhelm |
07.26.08 - 8:28 am | #
if gas and diesel prices should decline
gas is down to 4.15/gal here. woohoo, it's cheap again.
i think this is permanent because we pretty much have passed peak oil
mogwai |
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07.26.08 - 8:28 am | #
Mind-bending parody? Or just a bent mind?
Yup, Obama is quite a bloodthirsty character, even when compared to that late-20th century Bonnie and Clyde, Bill and Hillary Clinton.
But, c'mon, the wacko right has got to up the ante... there's a nigra involved here....
montag |
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07.26.08 - 8:28 am | #
"Obama don't need no "madame." He gets all the white women he wants, for free. Hell, he's going to fuck your sister!"
and then he'll make her have an abortion, just for the fun of it.
jdw |
07.26.08 - 8:29 am | #
but but we are going to get like a whole new saudi arabia off the jersey coast!
But, but, when Arctic Ice disappears it'll be easier to drill, and then....
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:30 am | #
On the upside, we're probably going to be looking at an improvement in the job market as the FDIC expands operations.
underwhelm |
07.26.08 - 8:30 am | #
those republicans have been so crafty...first we use all "their" oil and then, just when they start running out we begin to tap into our oil, and create a new world monopoly and control the world, still, more, again.
Michael Ruppert, yes. Gary Ruppert, not so much.... Gary's still working on that difficult internets technique known as cut `n paste....
montag |
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07.26.08 - 8:31 am | #
The FDIC can hire all those lease geniuses from Chrysler Financial!
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:31 am | #
Gary Ruppert is famous as the king idiot troll at Sadly, No.
baba durag |
07.26.08 - 8:32 am | #
a whole new saudi arabia off the jersey coast!
i thought the jersey coast already had more oil washing up than saudi arabia (poor jersey, it makes for an easy target)
mogwai |
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07.26.08 - 8:33 am | #
G R used to troll here, as well.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:33 am | #
R*pp*rt is such a complete jackass that I think he's a parody about half the time. Utterly humorless, plus it's hard for me to believe anyone can be *that* stupid.
V for Virginia, faceless name |
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07.26.08 - 8:33 am | #
apparently one of those banks handeled all the on-line winnings for some of the gambling sites.
bet there are some over $100,000 checks floating around...and I wouldn't want to piss those kinds of people off.
Escariot |
07.26.08 - 8:33 am | #
..improvement in the job market as the FDIC expands operations.
underwhelm
Or we preemptively invade another oil rich country... say Venezuela, rather than drill off the coast.
Gimlet |
07.26.08 - 8:33 am | #
GR is from my home State of Oregon, I believe.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:34 am | #
Utterly humorless, plus it's hard for me to believe anyone can be *that* stupid
The vast majority of republicans fit this category.
Barndog, now cooler |
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07.26.08 - 8:34 am | #
say Venezuela, rather than drill off the coast.
Gimlet
Venezuela added to the list of nations that support terrorism in 3 ... 2 . . . 1 . . .
V for Virginia, faceless name |
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07.26.08 - 8:35 am | #
BOTH...put peple to work on rigs and in Bradleys in caracas....McCain has a plan!
Escariot |
07.26.08 - 8:35 am | #
R*pp*rt is such a complete jackass that I think he's a parody about half the time. Utterly humorless, plus it's hard for me to believe anyone can be *that* stupid.
Never underestimate the intellectual poverty of the right wing.
montag |
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07.26.08 - 8:35 am | #
Venezuela's oil is difficult to refine.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:35 am | #
Or we preemptively invade another oil rich country... say Venezuela, rather than drill off the coast.
Gimlet
Pretty nice around these parts this morning.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:38 am | #
teh legacy of NCLB:
The study’s most disturbing finding, the authors say, is that neither boys nor girls get many tough math questions on state tests now required to measure a school district’s progress under the 2002 federal No Child Left Behind law. Using a four-level rating scale, with level one being easiest, the authors said that they found no challenging level-three or -four questions on most state tests. The authors worry that means that teachers may start dropping harder math from their curriculums, because “more teachers are gearing their instruction to the test.”
who needs math-smart americans? our corporations can rely on smart asians: they are cheaper. been like this for a long while now
mogwai |
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07.26.08 - 8:39 am | #
Downtown Atlanta looks like LA in Blade Runner this morning...
Escariot |
07.26.08 - 8:39 am | #
Andrea Mitchell has been attacking Obama's trip this week with the remorselessness and subtlety of a junk yard dog.
Which is not surprising considering the circles she runs in:
Dude, if you are gonna go that way then you really shouldn't capitalize the i.
LE JACKEL |
07.26.08 - 8:39 am | #
we got meth experts! does that count?
Escariot |
07.26.08 - 8:40 am | #
Speaking of socialism, NPR's report about the housing bill was funny this morning. Some clip of a wackadoo (R) senator crying socialism, followed by "President Bush is expected to sign the bill..."
These poor idiots, their nightmares must be filled with socialists!
underwhelm |
07.26.08 - 8:40 am | #
Obama refused to be miffed at Andrea, he gave her the first nasty question outside 10 Downing St.
plantsman |
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07.26.08 - 8:41 am | #
CDO meltdowns, quant funds spiraling into death spins and multiple financial institutions cratering....