I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
first
around second
flashing by third
I'll wear a yankee hat in the hall of fame, please.
cant think of any more foolish discourse than from mchucksonneyiani.
wow--go for the point after or two points?
now for the onside kick.
do I get a sammich, too?
some how, I am beginning to think that no one will ever come to this thread.
Yeah, during the Viagra ad that follows.
I think I will go upstairs and awake the children.
downstairs, there are sammiches. what can you offer us?
David Brooks is a stupid fuck.
On MSNBC this particular moment.
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nine in one blow-a record?
certainly so for me.
brb. Gotta go to the Toby.
is anything in particular making discourse more stupid, or was this just a general statement?
Ya think?
I wonder if this is a general comment or if their was some particularly egregious wankery that prompted it.
Turds.
A whole new page in stupid discourse has been turned.
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cant watch BoBo twice in one week. bad enoughon PBS, but with Timmeh and pushing that racism stuff.
I think it could be a factor--but there is no evidence. that is the whole point of the Bradley effect--which I coverd at LATimes.
David Brooks is a stupid fuck period/.
Flattened your tits
nine in one blow-a record?
Depends. Bowling or birthday cake?
you must be watching the weekend russert show with Bobo, Susan"it must be racism"Page and Chuck"I was more honest when I worked at Hotline" Todd
Er, coke to Kidlacan I guess.
Ah say again:
Mmmm, for lunch I'm havin' a big ol' bowl of leftover hoppin' fred.
Feel better now, gromit?
this may be the free association thread.
can't i have a sammich instead? now i'm hungry.
Did something happen, or is this just a general observation?
Well, yes. Yes it will.
.
unpossible!
Feel better now, gromit?
Much, thank you
Bush Prepared to Slow Reduction of Forces in Iraq
When was the last time somebody did a seeded bracket of worst msm/mcm discoursers, like with the ncaas. You know Suzanne Malveaux vs. Norah O'Donnell, Russert vs. Crowley etc.
Mmmm, for lunch I'm havin' a big ol' bowl of leftover hoppin' fred.
Feel better now, gromit?
Visitor Online |
01.12.08 - 12:32 pm | #
did you know that cats love black eyed peas? we put the new year's extras in the front yard for the deer. Cats chased them all off and ate it themselves.
There is no free association. /milton berleman
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Inquiring minds want to know if there's a bottom to the stupid.
( I just tripped the Larry Craig, Jimmy/Jeff trigger with that comment, didn't I...)
gotta be at work in 7.5 hours, must sleep... have a great day peeps!
Self- evident: teh stoopid will be broadcast.
Mmmm, for lunch I'm havin' a big ol' bowl of leftover hoppin' fred.
So's Jeri Thompson.
Oh, wait. That's nappin' fred.
Inquiring minds want to know if there's a bottom to the stupid.
( I just tripped the Larry Craig, Jimmy/Jeff trigger with that comment, didn't I...)
noblejoanie |
01.12.08 - 12:34 pm | #
Nope, its just turtles all the way down.
Raincheck on the scrabble molly!
what happened to the 72-online gizmo?
IMHO if the parties hadn't put the primary season on steroids it would be less stupid.
racymind,
Zap's scared of us.
Heh.
Oooh...I could spell "Jeri Thompson" right now.
Not that I would want to.
what happened to the 72-online gizmo?
peterboy |
01.12.08 - 12:37 pm | #
good question.
oh is dat who de other one is... hmmm.
Too bad they block Facebook at work.
Zap's scared of us.
Heh.
I CAN'T MULTI-TASK!!
You people are vultures!!!
GWPDA, nice info below on the history of Canadian healtcare programs. I remember back when Bill and Hillary were trying to get health insurance reform though back in the early 90's that our vaunted free press found it almost impossible to report clearly on the Canadian system.
Everything was anecdotal, mostly second and third hand--somehow it was impossible to find real facts or statistics or even real Canadians who could talk about their real experiences with the system.
Canada was so difficult to cover! So far away! The language difficulties! How could reporters for huge US papers do real reporting under such difficult, even impossilbe, circumstances.
Feh.
Canada is like Rhode Island. Ya don't think it really counts.
is this an insight or a continual expectation
(rhetorical)
Everything was anecdotal, mostly second and third hand--somehow it was impossible to find real facts or statistics or even real Canadians who could talk about their real experiences with the system.
I can help out here. I was born in an igloo.
did you know that cats love black eyed peas?
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I did not know that.
Weird, wild stuff!
Oh, and Matt Taibbi's "Wimblehack" tournament of the 2004 campaign press corps(e) is a trenchant and hilarious masterpiece.
I'd look forward to another one, but I have no idea if he's pursuing it.
The collective stupid regarding Canada by a shocking number of Americans never fails to exasperate me. Five gets you ten it happens again the next time someone brings up even a halfway-sane healthcare plan for you folks...
jawbone: see, the reporters should have been "embedded"... then we'd have gotten the facts re: Canadian healthcare...
Canada was so difficult to cover! So far away! The language difficulties! How could reporters for huge US papers do real reporting under such difficult, even impossilbe, circumstances.
Feh.
jawbone
Toronto: As safe as Baghdad?
Five gets you ten it happens again the next time someone brings up even a halfway-sane healthcare plan for you folks...
Krugman for Sec. of HHS!!
Canada was so difficult to cover! So far away! The language difficulties! How could reporters for huge US papers do real reporting under such difficult, even impossilbe, circumstances.
Feh.
jawbone
To be fair, they did point out that Canadians had to wait six months for a bottle of aspirin.
Re heathcare. As the spouse of a family practice physician, I have one observation:
Any effective reform of the health care system is going to make both the insurance companies and the specialists very unhappy.
This is a good and necessary thing, but there has to be a plan to deal with their pushback from the get-go.
Any plan that does not make the insurance companies and specialists very unhappy will not be what we need.
That is all.
I, too, wonder about the absence of the "Visitors Online" feature.
It's changed my life.
To be fair, they did point out that Canadians had to wait six months for a bottle of aspirin.
Yet, you can buy a Cuban cigar at every newsstand.
The injustice!!!
'm not sure that really fits--but it seems lots of us here feel we don't know what his "change" means. Since what we do know is that his stands are pretty much like Hillary's, perhaps a bit more to the right on some things like SocSec and homosexuals, perhaps to the left (but I don't know which--on leaving Iraq? no), he is the candidate of "hope" and "change." Voters get to fill in the blanks.
jawbone | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 12:10 pm | #
Compared to what? Is it really your contention that Obama has been substantially less concrete than Hillary/Edwards on issues?
Here is Obama on Iraq from his web site:
Bring Our Troops Home: Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda
That's pretty much exactly what Edwards says and much more concrete than Hillary http://www.hillaryclinton.com/is...om/issues/iraq/
Oh, and Matt Taibbi's "Wimblehack" tournament of the 2004 campaign press corps(e) is a trenchant and hilarious masterpiece.
they've started a trend with new procedures that include lumps that turn blue when they've already peed in the cat box
gives them a starting point
Bobo and Tweety both pushing The Bradley Effect big time--those racist NH voters! And those stupid women with HS educations voting for Hillary--in order to tell the MCMers that it's too early for them to call her run for the presidency over! Uh, Bobo, that's pretty strategic thinking, dood, for those stupid less-well educated women....
Anyway, I think stirring up a racial divide within the Democratic Party is a Rove wetdream. They see a way to do now. And it takes the assistance of MCMers like Tweets and Bobo and the rest trying to ignore factual analysis and go for creating a new Conventional Wisdom. It may or may not be easier than asserting that Al Gore lied by saying he created the Internet--but it's what they're working on.
If this were about a favored ReThug, the MCMers would be pulling out all the facts necessary to undermine a possilby false conclusion. Not happening now--they're not trotting out the dissenting pollsters and their analysis. They're going with the narrative: racist Dem voters.
I cant think of a single good thing done by health insurance companies other than employment; specialist do some good things.
It's changed my life.
Visitor Online
Early Wednesday morning the power went out at haloscan central. And there was much consternation, gnashing of teeth, rending of garments, etc.
Then there was an issue with the "wait 20 seconds" counter guy, and the "visitors online" counter guy, so I think they had to be killed to save the village, as it were.
Hey Zap, that was me with the friend request.
they scoop it away with their paw and proceed to cover it up
Hillary gives $70 billion econ speech in ca. The nyts sends adnag to cover it and he does a short article on their blog:
Taco Day on the Trail
Mrs. Clinton’s lunch party – which also included Fabian Núñez, the speaker of the California Assembly – made their through a crush of cameras (If there were any genuine Los Angeles voters there, outside of the people behind the counter, they were hard to find.)
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.c...y-on-the-trail/
obama goes to a fundraiser in NJ and it's a nyts front pager:
Obama Giving Clinton a Race in Her Backyard
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/tod...aper/
index.html
Yet more proof Hillary rulz the media.
.specialist do some good things.
peterboy
And there ought to be some kind of financial incentive for undergoing the etremely rigorous training involved in becoming, say, a heart surgeon.
Samantha Powers, labeled as speaking for Obama,, was on MSNBC talking about Obama's plans for troop reductions--and there was a loophole the size of an army for keeping troops in Iraq to find and control any possible insurgents and terrorists. Along with the troops needed to protect the embassy and other US workers.
Is she an official spokesperson?
I cant think of a single good thing done by health insurance companies other than employment; specialist do some good things.
peterboy | 01.12.08 - 12:46 pm | #
Without war industries, insurance companies, and wall street, would there be any jobs in Connecticut at all?
Gotcha, Marcellina. 
Here's the thing with Canadian healthcare-- whatever its faults (and they're very minor compared to the train wreck south of the border), it leaves society so much less desperate than it would be otherwise. There is not an entire class of people that fear getting sick will bankrupt them.
All three of the leading contenders for the Dem nomination are flawed and imperfect individuals. Therefore I propose we sit this one out.
C'mon, who's with me? What could possibly go wrong?
"Is she an official spokesperson?
jawbone"
Yes. This has been simple answers...
She gave obama's major forgein policy speech.
Specialists do some good things indeed. But the balance of specialists to primary care physicians in this country is totally out of whack. And its getting worse, because they have gamed the insurance reimbursement system so that their reimbursement is much greater than those providing primary care.
They pay my generalist $60 for a 30 min visit and my ENT $400 for a 10 min visit, because he uses a fiber optic gizmo to look at my vocal chords for 30 seconds.
Students graduating from med school with enormous debt loads can't afford to go into primary care.
Is she an official spokesperson?
jawbone | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 12:49 pm | #
She's pretty damn smart. But they all suck on Iraq and all are pro world military engagement.
hadenough: well, you know, the idea that there really are people who *like* Hillary doesn't quite fit *anyone's* "narrative"...
I prepose that we don't
the kids are alright.
11-Year-Old's Idea May Become Law
Boy's Initiative May Be Passed as Law to Help Feed Homeless
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/PersonO...=4123327&
page=1
I CAN'T MULTI-TASK!!
You people are vultures!!!
I have 6 games going right now, about half with Atriots, and half with my brothers.
Afternoon, all.
Been mostly away since yesteday. Anything particularly irky going on I should know about?
In New England the Republican party has gone out of business. - Chuck Todd
Actually they are just hibernating in their safe deposit boxes.
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whatever its faults (and they're very minor compared to the train wreck south of the border),
I am pretty confident we're going to get it here at last this time. The Republicans have now basically given us a couple of decades of relative isolationism, a real focus on environment and renewable energy, and a national halthcare system, albeit at the staggering cost of bankrupting our treasury and severely eroding our global economic and ideological dominance. It really sucks that it took them fucking up the country this bad to get us to this.
I have 6 games going right now, about half with Atriots, and half with my brothers.
Egads, woman! And you're still kicking my butt.
"Hillary doesn't quite fit *anyone's* "narrative"...
nick carraway"
We/I expect that from the "liberal media." The 'liberal' blogs have been, at least for me, a shocking disappointment.
C'mon, who's with me? What could possibly go wrong?
V for Virginia, free at last! | 01.12.08 - 12:51 pm | #
I'm going to write in for Angela Davis.
About 20 years ago, I was living way down south in a small wacky town and there was a tiny little ancient communist jew from chicago living down there. He musta been 1million. The election was coming up and he says, "I'm voting for the colored lady, she's for the working people."
Been mostly away since yesteday. Anything particularly irky going on I should know about?
steve simels
For some reason the discussion about the Dem primary around here is making me think of the Dorothy Parker poem about suicide methods.
Off to the PO and to pick up my copy of "The Dangerous Book for Dogs" at the Library. Arthur is such a nagger....
Um, other than scrabble, what are the advantages of facebook?
I have enough trouble trying to follow 9 parallel conversations in the thread.
as far as sit it out anyway
everyone should vote and everyone should become involved in the process to a point that they are a confident in that their vote was recorded that they can reconcile that the majority rules
(dreams I know but dreams are people and people have dreams
Boy's Initiative May Be Passed as Law to Help Feed Homeless
I expect Rush Limbaugh to launch a smear campaign against the kid.
Early Wednesday morning the power went out at haloscan central. And there was much consternation, gnashing of teeth, rending of garments, etc. [...]
V for Virginia, free at last!
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Well, as long as there's a reason...
I'd gladly sacrifice the visitors online display, and toss in the "HULK SMASH" and a troll to be named later, if they would fix the "refresh" bar so it returns one to the point at which one refreshed, instead of dropping one a considerable distance upthread.
If this is actually a glitch on my end, I withdraw my complaint. But it's simels-irksome to refresh and then have to retrace. It seems to defeat the purpose; it's like a Sharper Image electronic bookmark that automatically hops back a random number of pages after it's inserted.
Who's running this thing-- the Guardian of Forever? 
Jack Davis is a really cute kid! And, wow, his dad must have connections as well. no?
For some reason the discussion about the Dem primary around here is making me think of the Dorothy Parker poem about suicide methods.
V for Virginia
heh.
"The Dangerous Book for Dogs"
Careful that he isn't a bad influence on the baby girl!
Been mostly away since yesteday. Anything particularly irky going on I should know about?
steve simels
Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson are no longer married. Spider-Man literally made a deal with the devil.
I am pretty confident we're going to get it here at last this time.
Well, it looks like you might. But, I have this feeling that however it unfolds, it'll still screw poor people. Just not as much as now.
Anything particularly irky going on I should know about?
Sinfonian got shot down by the potential girlfriend he had such high hopes for. He's seriously bummed.
Um, other than scrabble, what are the advantages of facebook?
Well, no. But it's totally worth it.
If this is actually a glitch on my end, I withdraw my complaint.
No, unless it's just you and me. I think it's just a flaw in the system.
I love to hate on haloscan, but it's not bad for free, and we push it like hell.
Anything particularly irky going on I should know about?
I Left a couple of nominations for "Creepiest Song" at a certain blog that shouldn't be whored...
Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson are no longer married. Spider-Man literally made a deal with the devil.
So MJ's available now?
Tiger, I just hit the jackpot!
Sinfonian got shot down by the potential girlfriend he had such high hopes for.
Well, he seems to be sublimating his energies into kicking ass at scrabble.
There might be other games to play too.
I think there is chess and such.
Um, other than scrabble, what are the advantages of facebook?
Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Facebook is. You have to see it for yourself.
Sinfonian got shot down by the potential girlfriend he had such high hopes for. He's seriously bummed.
Gromit
No! Really?
Damn, I hate to hear that.
So MJ's available now?
What is she - about 60 now?
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
... other than scrabble, what are the advantages of facebook?
None that I can see. Unless being tracked by advertisers and dataminers is your thang...
Um, other than scrabble, what are the advantages of facebook?
You get to see what some of us really look like. Sort of.
Many of my friends forward youtube clips and the like.
I think there is chess and such.
I still can't get SmartyPants to work.
If this is actually a glitch on my end, I withdraw my complaint.
No, unless it's just you and me. I think it's just a flaw in the system.
For me, it does it in Firefox, but not in Explorer.
Sinfonian got shot down by the potential girlfriend he had such high hopes for.
So she's available now? I wonder if she's on Facebook...
I still can't get SmartyPants to work.
Not so smart!
Hey, kids - a little good news for a change...
the Dorothy Parker poem about suicide methods [...]
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Isn't that the one that goes:
Candy is dandy
But liquor is quicker.
Gromit, I sent you a facebook invitation 
What is she - about 60 now?
She's a CILF!
(where C = character)
For some reason the discussion about the Dem primary around here is making me think of the Dorothy Parker poem about suicide methods.
V for Virginia, free at last! | 01.12.08 - 12:56 pm | #
You might as well live.
Not so smart!
We all can't be experts at managing computer security, NTodd. What would you do?
What's smarty pants?
I still can't get SmartyPants to work.
Molly Ivors |
Homepage |
01.12.08 - 1:01 pm | #
Thers is unemployed?
Sinfonian got shot down by the potential girlfriend he had such high hopes for.
Oh no. When did that happen? He seemed so jazzed on Thursday...
Thers needs to join so we can vanquish him or cry after losing to him or sumtin.
What's smarty pants?
Trivia, reputedly.
steve, he got the "like a brother" email last night.
Mary, did you win?
he got the "like a brother" email last night.
Hey, he lives in Florida. They're cool with the incest thing down there.
Thers needs to join
It wouldn't let him join as Thers, and his name's already out in the wingnutosphere. so he's a little tetchy.
Err, Molly.
Oh no. When did that happen? He seemed so jazzed on Thursday...
steve simels | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 1:06 pm | #
This whole boy-girl thing is too damned complicated. "Some assembly required" indeed.
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Mary, did you win?
Indeed. Good game!
But Marcellina, we already know what you look like!
(Repeat link to video of Marcellina singing from yesterday. Dig the jumpsuit and heels)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...h?
v=76WftfOM3r4
And thanks for the invite.
We necked, then I stuck my hand down your jeans, but I now like you as a brother tends to confuse dudes.
Zap -- Just read about your dad's impending surgery.
Good thoughts coming your way.
ACK! Paranoia alert, paranoia alert!
How the fuck did facebook connect me with HBK, NTodd, Zap, trifecta, Atrios, and Sinfonian?
ACK!!!!
Could be WhiskeyThers or something.
Thanks for playing, Molly. I'm thoroughly schooled now.
Now, Zapette and I are off to Minneapolis for fun and hyjinx. Later!
(thanks, SteveNS, and everyone for the thoughts)
Now'mout.
sheets.
We necked, then I stuck my hand down your jeans, but I now like you as a brother tends to confuse dudes.
I don't know enough to comment, really.
I wish we could trade off, be single for a few weeks, then married, then single again, without having to date or anything.
Over at DKos, I just looked around--and was amazed at some of the diaries, such as blaming the Clintons for the ReThugs hating them, saying they'll trying to get a second chance to take the WH silver, voter suppression.
Goog grief.
This whole boy-girl thing is too damned complicated. "Some assembly required" indeed.
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ifthethunderdontgetya
Nothing beats the falling in love part.
Whereas lots of stuff hurts worse than the like a sister stuff.
"Our Stupid Discourse Is about to get a whole lot stupider"
That's a heck of a mean thing to say about this open thread.
Stupider is as stupider does...
"check out my new vh1 series David Broder Pierced at 77"-David Broder
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