I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Mine?
Yours.
People expect to have a place for their cars by divine right.
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Stormysu, some suggested web sites at the bottom of Echidne's thread, two below. Best wishes.
There is nothing uglier than front parking spaces... even in the suburbs, the freaking GARAGE is the focal point of the damn McMansion. Ugly ugly ugly.
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The developers in my city love parking garages. There are on every other corner downtown. I guess they and the city make money of of them.
The car space should be located within 10 feet or less of the front door.
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cough, cough public transportation cough.
SEPTA reform would take care of this ... right?
In the outer boroughs, people are paving their tiny front yards open so that the car will have a home near them.
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This is why I just fly on my broom.
There is nothing uglier than front parking spaces... even in the suburbs, the freaking GARAGE is the focal point of the damn McMansion. Ugly ugly ugly.
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MisterX
This is true.
hem, hem, "They are…"
A garage in the front is an eyesore. It would be fun to paint a giant eye on the door.
Would someone give K&Y some laudanum?
Take my garage...please!
damn you again mer!
I just watch Life After People on the History Channel. Parking is all so futile.
*sigh*
Can we have Atrikitties please? 
You know in the old days, the garage was around the side of the house or setback from the front or hell, at the bottom of the back yard.
GAHHH! I hate ugly modern houses, of which there are many.
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Or maybe paint is as an open maw with horrible teeth at the edges.
The green space is "wasted" so pave it over for your car. It's crazy and ugly.
listen
Would someone give K&Y some laudanum?
Prior Aelred |
Colic again?
When we bought our house, it didn't have a garage. We did build a shed for tools and stuff.
Would someone give K&Y some laudanum?
Prior Aelred
K is fine. It's Y who has the problem. But K is being co-dependent about it.
It's starting to be an issue.
Y needs help.
I have a garage full of unpacked nonsense from my old house.
You know in the old days, the garage was around the side of the house or setback from the front or hell, at the bottom of the back yard.
Yes, and you can't get the car there when it snows because of the downhill driveway and the 180 degree turn.
A GARAGE is a freaking SHED to store your vehicle in, not a status symbol...
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gargle, gargle
STREETCARS WOULD FREE UP SPACE FOR MORE BEER DISPENSARIES gargle
Seriously, take our garage. It's a three-car beast, and it's sagging.
We're never gonna have three cars, and I don't have so much shit that I could use it for storage.
This is why I just fly on my broom.
I'm telling Hecate on you! 
leibniz,--------> 
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
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Obama should run for shoeshine boy.
In Center City you can walk (& there is SEPTA ... sigh!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...t-
selling_books
measurements of the popularity of fairy tales and self help books
"book of virtues" clocks in at #44 with 30 mil copies sold
and i do mean "sold"
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Would someone give K&Y some laudanum?
I'm fresh out.
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Yep, suburban houses around here look garages with an attached chauffeur's efficiency apartment.
Whatever happened to alleys behind houses?
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
My SIL thought the same thing and cut down a BUNCH of beautiful, mature trees. Trashed the place, in my estimation.
I'll be finishing up here at work... would everyone please ignore the troll for me?
Thanks, guys. You're the best.
Jawbone -- yes, thank you very much! I caught those and will definately follow up with those. Thanks for the link and suggestions, and I am so glad you have found them to be of help for you.
Boycott garages!
WHO'S WITH ME?
"I have a garage full of unpacked nonsense from my old house."
--leibniz,
My motto, if you haven't used it in a year, get rid of it. I'm still trying to live by my motto. The husband is somewhat of a problem.
OK. I've been name stolen. I'm out for the night.
gop:scrod
Seven or eight years ago, the city of Portland banned "snout houses" that have the garage stick out 20 feet from the house. They have to be level with the house or set back. Set back is best, imho.
My motto, if you haven't used it in a year, get rid of it. I'm still trying to live by my motto. The husband is somewhat of a problem.
Perhaps if you label him with the date?
My motto, if you haven't used it in a year, get rid of it. I'm still trying to live by my motto. The husband is somewhat of a problem.
mer
Why? You haven't used him in over a year?
In the coming Great Leap Beyond, garages
will be glorious smelters of a new social class, and catalytic converters.
Whatever happened to alleys behind houses?
Actually, some cities are building developments like that. Ames, Iowa is one, and there's at least one here in Michigan.
Obama should run for shoeshine boy.
Racist much?
Bring back alleyways.
Why? You haven't used him in over a year?
Nicely done.
Would someone give K&Y some laudanum?
Prior Aelred
Where's the line? Where should I stand? I want some laudanum too!
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
My SIL thought the same thing and cut down a BUNCH of beautiful, mature trees. Trashed the place, in my estimation.
V for Virginia
...neighbor down the road a ways did the same thing when the meth lab in the house next door blew up and nearly started a forest fire. Over-reacted a bit, I thought; only a couple of his trees torched...
Whatever happened to alleys behind houses?
Joyful Alternative
I guess they figure it's wasted space. I grew up in a neighborhood that had an alley between every other house... each house had access to a side alley and a back alley.
Crap I'm getting old.
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If I lived in Philly I'd definitely want a garage. I can't imagine having to scrub ice and snow off the car during the winter. Plus, the paint doesn't hold up as well when exposed to the elements. Finally, without a garage its hard to store all the fix-it stuff you need when you own a home.
We've got an alley on our block. And a couple of alley houses.
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
How the hell are we gonna get rid of trees before we get rid of children? Trees are beautiful; children are messy and noisy.
I can't imagine having to scrub ice and snow off the car during the winter.
It takes, like, two minutes. It's not that bad.
I think it's possible to allow homeowners a garage and still ban parking that blocks the sidewalk.
My motto, if you haven't used it in a year, get rid of it.
Some marriages would end.
Local Fox network just called the book 1984 "almost Orwellian."
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
No connection to the planet. That's a real problem these days.
I've seen old neighborhoods where they cut down the trees because cars would hit them... thus removing any sense of safety to those on the sidewalks.
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Local Fox network just called the book 1984 "almost Orwellian."
children are messy and noisy.
They're children. You don't mind too much when they're yours.
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
Yeah, we had some neighbors move in a few years ago who pretty much decimated their yard so as to set up a dog run line. They're the same ones who threatened to shoot my dogz. Lovely people.
If I lived in Philly I'd definitely want a garage. I can't imagine having to scrub ice and snow off the car during the winter.
Waa waa waa. We (allegedly) live in Michigan without garage. It's three extra minutes of work that prolly benefits all the crap food you eat to stay warm while you're stuck indoors ... what the hell are we doing here?
I can't imagine having to scrub ice and snow off the car during the winter.
It takes, like, two minutes. It's not that bad.
Yes, and shoveling the snow in front of the garage doors will take longer.
Local Fox network just called the book 1984 "almost Orwellian."
Culture of TrÜth
More Eric Blairish than Orwellian I guess.
We've got an alley on our block. And a couple of alley houses.
Zap Rowsdower
Someone told me once that those little houses at the back of the lot you see in Mpls St. Paul were the temp house for the first owner of the lot. Meant to be torn down when the big house in front was built.
Some people never got around to the big house...
Whatever happened to alleys
I like bowling.
Yes, and shoveling the snow in front of the garage doors will take longer.
Our house is on a corner, so I've done quite a bit of shoveling this year.
I try and keep a path to the garage for Zapette's car, but it's futile.
Lovely people.
NTodd, Thread Führer
I thought you didn't allow assholes into Vermont?
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
people like this are agents of the devil and will burn in hell
or maybe be sentenced to be cut down forever
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Fuck. NTodd is beating me.
whatever 'appened to 'alleys comet guvn'r?
shoveling the snow in front of the garage doors will take longer.
Not when you've got a plowboy.
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
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they ARE messy every fall, and they are expensive in that you have to keep them trimmed. but they absorb bad stuff from the air and provide homes for birds and other critters so you'd have to be the laziest, cheapest s.o.b. in the world to cut down healthy trees that aren't too close to your home. i've got a few of those kinds of folks as relatives. sigh.
Yes, and shoveling the snow in front of the garage doors will take longer.
I have a service.
:preens:
Someone told me once that those little houses at the back of the lot you see in Mpls St. Paul were the temp house for the first owner of the lot. Meant to be torn down when the big house in front was built.
We call them "mother in law" houses. Homeowners around here rent them out.
Local Fox network just called the book 1984 "almost Orwellian."
Culture of TrÜth
David Peace's award-winning labor relations novel GB84 is pretty 84y.
I thought you didn't allow assholes out of Vermont?
Adam Hominem
fyt
I thought you didn't allow assholes into Vermont?
If that were the case, I wouldn't be here.
NTodd is beating me.
I wouldn't brag about that.
Alleys are good things. When I was very young we lived in a house with an alley behind all the houses. That's where the garbage was picked up and all the garages were back there.
Someone told me once that those little houses at the back of the lot you see in Mpls St. Paul were the temp house for the first owner of the lot. Meant to be torn down when the big house in front was built.
Yeah, I can see that.
When I was a kid, the alley is where we played soccer and football.
Oh, and had bottle rocket fights.
fyt
Culture of TrÜth
Thanks, I'm sure that's what I meant, if I'd thought about it.
Uh, he's quite the pack rat.
I can see hanging onto his tools, but keeping National Geographic for 20 years is too much for me.
That's where the garbage was picked up and all the garages were back there.
TheOtherWA
Yeah, plus they were safer "kid highways" than streets...
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One minute they're telling me to move to the city, "city good", mass transit, sustainable, blah, blah. Now this.
I'm confused.
Uh, he's quite the pack rat.
I can see hanging onto his tools, but keeping National Geographic for 20 years is too much for me.
mer
My mother in law still has her phone books from Miami from the 1960's. She hasn't lived in Miami since the 1960's.
I had to move all that shit this last year.
Local tv has a Countdown Clock running in the corner.
22 hours, 25 minutes 11 seconds.
Time to go consume mass quantities of beer with my hooligan friends.
Later.
Interesting review of Lee Siegel's book in the Times. Last paragraph:
The ramped-up affect of “Against the Machine,” its air of haste and its ad hominem quality are uncomfortably reminiscent of the blogs Siegel so dislikes. There are moments when it seems that Siegel is baring psychic wounds in public, and the reader comes to suspect that he was much more troubled by his bruising experience with the blogosphere than he is willing to let on. Why is so much to do with the Internet — so much of what’s said on it, and so much of what’s said about it, by its advocates and its detractors — so angry? “Against the Machine” doesn’t solve that mystery. But at least Siegel signs his arguments with his own name.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/0...html?
ref=review
To the last sentence of which I'd add, 'when he's not calling himself "spezzatura" and getting caught.'
But isn't it just possible that there's been no shortage of public anger for many years--the red-baiting of the Fabulous Fifties and the race baiting of the Sixties come to mind, for instance--and that people are angry on the Internet because, y'know, there's a fair amount, in these degenerate times, to be angry about?
I have thousands of baseball cards that I lug everywhere I move.
I'll never look at them again, but I'd hate to think what I'd do without them.
And my Mom has saved all of my Transformers toys. She rationalizes it by reminding herself how much money she paid for them.
And you know what I miss? I miss a good burn barrel. /codger
In the glorious long emergency, Lincoln Navigator will be lux/condo/wo.
HOW TO DISABLE THE WINDOWS STUFF ABOUT "UNUSED ICONS ON YOUR DESKTOP"
I'm just surprised the Times didn't let Siegel review his own book.
There's a very entertaining documentary series from the mid 90s by British host
Louis Theroux. He travels through the US and covers a variety of topics, from Nevada Brothels to Body Builders to Infomercial companies. They're really good - Hosted on Google Vids
http://video.google.com/
videopla...247729991384350
sheets
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There's a very entertaining documentary series from the mid 90s by British host Louis Theroux.
Zapette turned me on to him a few months back. He's pretty funny.
I have thousands of baseball cards that I lug everywhere I move.
Zap Rowsdower
Your children will thank you, when they sell them for big bucks.
Like sprezzatura I write about many things, including blogging, in my real life and then I use my real name.
The only difference with a nym is my freedom to use the word fuck.
It's small, and yet it's everything.
What these reviewers do not realize is that Lee Siegel is the greatest author in the history of the world. He has said so himself numerous times.
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That didn't take long.
Punxatawny Phil Sees Own Shadow, Predicts 6 More Centuries Of Stupidity
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musical obama sheets!
My husbands relatives thought trees were messy and that they should all be cut down.
My In-Laws' idea of pruning is slash-and-burn.
In the short term living in the same house with the car is a pretty good idea. Anyone stupid enough to want that shit is stupid enough to leave it running and go to bed. Fewer douchebags, fewer cars, everybody wins.
It happened in San Francisco in the mid nineties. For every two garages on 24th Street in Noe Valley, two businesses disappeared. It was not necessary to put garages into this neighborhood as there is ample public transportation (train, BART, buses). The reason the garages were put in there was to perpetuate our reliance on the automobile in California.
Gilly Gonzylon
Those were good. I also love this series I've caught a few times on (Sundance? IFC?) called John Safran vs. God, about a guy who travels the world experiencing and usually making fun of various religions.
Surely the Philly Zoning Reg's are available online. It's just a matter of looking up what is required - it isn't rocet science.
Get a car, A-man.
Denver is dealing with the problem by refusing to issue curb cut permits -- if there is any other access to the property, no curb cut for you.
Laws like these support a car-centric city. Better to make it harder, not easier, to own a car. Make laws requiring adequate safe bicycle parking areas, bike lanes, and busses instead, and see quality of life improve while car ownership decreases.
If you're going to keep nattering on about parking, at least consider how it's done in Switzerland (and maybe more of Europe, but that's where I lived) which takes up virtually no space and makes few, if any, eyesores. Virtually every building had a parking garage under the building. Where I worked, where I shopped, where I lived. My apartment complex was unusual because between all the buildings was greenspace, under which was one central garage and stairs leading to each of the buildings. Most people I knew had the garage under the building itself, but then they were a single building of apartments.
You want parking? You want pedestrian areas? You want greenspace? Put the damn cars in underground garages where they belong. It just takes money.
I actually was talking about larger scale new construction developments, which is really the only opportunity to do something different with parking and avoid a block long row of garages. And most developments are indeed larger than 5 units. Most lots, as you know, in Phila. do not have an alleyway behind them. If you have a corner lot then you could put a driveway off the street, but that still removes a public parking space.
Now, I certainly agree with "It's true that you can get community opposition to development which doesn't have parking, though why "subtract one public parking space and replace it with one private one" is something which addresses such concerns escapes me." However, logic and community groups are not exactly chocolate and vanilla. They very often see new developments as competition for parking and increased traffic. NIMBYism and resistance to change are rampant in most Phila. neighborhoods.
The larger problem is a lack of true city planning/ zoning that is progressive and comprehensive. I actually think a large part of the problem with bad developments in Phila. are the result of ceding of planning issues to community groups on an ad hoc basis. These groups very often negatively influence design, both aesthetically and functionally.
/Morty
Maybe you should buy all the vacant lots in philly to ensure this blight doesn't continue. Otherwise, you're just some douche bitching..which i'm starting to think you might be.
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