I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

really?


really?
bub


No.


Gravatarhello


GravatarWow, almost virgin fresh.


When does the sacrificing begin?


GravatarSacrificing begins now.


GravatarWhen does the sacrificing begin?
smalfish, tinfoil hatted


Somewhere between the airport and downtown Baghdad.


GravatarFor the record, I'm a fucking coward. I'm just tired of being passive.
NTodd, Scign Cult Leader | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 3:28 pm | #



I'm just tired of being powerless and misrepresented.


GravatarLet's whack jac.


GravatarFutile, fraudulent or worse

Imperial Life in the Emerald City by Rajiv Chandrasekaran and The Occupation of Iraq by Ali A Allawi are two very different books on Iraq that point to the same grim conclusion, writes Oliver Miles


GravatarGeorge and Laura suffer terribly, doncha know.

As he gets to enjoy Father's Day in Crawford, unlike 150K+ soldiers in Iraq.


GravatarNobody piss in the koolaid, please.


GravatarLet's whack jac.
bub


Group masturbation's not my bag, man.


GravatarNobody piss in the koolaid, please.

Ooops.

Too late.


Gravatar When the man on the motorcycle pulled alongside the convicted gangster Niccolo Ingarao on a Palermo street and shot him four times in the chest and once in the head, he murdered the most studious Mafia boss of modern times.

It emerged yesterday that when Mr Ingarao, 46, was not barking orders at underlings, extorting protection money or counting the takings as the gang boss of the Porta Nuova neighbourhood, he was an avid student of philosophy.

Twenty-four hours before his execution-style killing, seen as a bloody move in the power struggle that followed the arrest of the capo di capi Bernardo Provenzano, Ingarao took an exam in the history of philosophy at Palermo University. His professor at the university, Pietro di Giovanni, said he did very well.


http://news.independent.co.uk/ eu...icle2663181.ece


GravatarNobody piss in the koolaid, please.


Where else do ya piss?


Gravatarfrom below:

Property is a pretty good measure of wealth. Henry George saw this years ago ("Progress and Poverty" 1879). The problem is that so many are excluded from paying tax (the catholic church is the second largest landowner in NYC). Plus public work projects like interstate highways have removed massive amount of property from the tax roles. For example, when they put I-75 through Dayton, Ohio, they grabbed a huge amount of riverfront property and devalued anything near it. Why shouldn't the government have to pay taxes on its assets and property? Because we still believe in government as rulers who can own us rather than us owning them.


GravatarNobody piss in the koolaid, please.

Ooops.

Too late.
watertiger


A swimming pool full of Kool-Aid?

Who knew?


GravatarGeorge and Laura suffer terribly, doncha know.

As he gets to enjoy Father's Day in Crawford, unlike 150K+ soldiers in Iraq.
watertiger


Wonder if Jenna and Not-Jenna will show up.


GravatarPurple Haze!
.


GravatarRealClimate.org has a pretty good link up for those who need a primer on global warming. There's a range of info geared towards a range of people, from complete beginners to somewhat educated to experts. I've found I've used it much lately. Go here.


GravatarGroup masturbation's not my bag, man.


Every third Sunday behind the Tastee Freeze. Be there, you might find the experience "enlightening".


Gravatar"When the man on the motorcycle pulled alongside the convicted gangster Niccolo Ingarao on a Palermo street and shot him four times in the chest and once in the head, he murdered the most studious Mafia boss of modern times."

Reminds me of Philly back in the early 1980s.


GravatarThe English language and secret history

On page 81 of today’s Guardian weekly entertainment guide, BBC2’s ‘Rome’ is heartily recommended: “More sexy toga antics with a heavy dose of shagging, carousing and duffings.”

No doubt the Guardian’s affluent, educated readership will be aware that “duffings” means “beatings”. The verb “to be duffed up” means “to be beaten up.”

However, I wonder how many readers will be aware that this verb derives from the activities of Douglas V. Duff (1901 – 197.

Who he?

He was a state terrorist employed by the U.K. government during the British Mandate in Palestine. His particular expertise was torturing Arabs.

The British police chief in Jerusalem, Douglas Duff, described such methods in his memoir published in 1953. He tells how to apply physical force without leaving marks.


http://ellissharp.blogspot.com/2...et- history.html


GravatarGeorge and Laura suffer terribly, doncha know.

As he gets to enjoy Father's Day in Crawford, unlike 150K+ soldiers in Iraq.


It's going to rain all weekend here.

Ha.


GravatarNobody piss in the koolaid, please.
NTodd, Scign Cult Leader | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 3:31 pm | #


Reposted for NTodd's benefit.

See picture at bottom of page (no not Mark Foley!).
~


GravatarTerry C: Reminds me of Philly back in the early 1980s.

Hey, maybe getting the faster scooter will allow me to take on a second job...!
.


GravatarWhy shouldn't the government have to pay taxes on its assets and property?


Now that's really pretty silly. Government being taxed by the people, for the people?


GravatarIt's going to rain all weekend here.

Ha.
fourlegsgood, kittened


Doesn't matter to him.

He'll just stay inside and drink himself blotto.


GravatarGordon Brown has promised to set out "an economic road map" to build peace in the Middle East.

Speaking at the final Labour leadership hustings in London, the Chancellor promised new investment for the Palestinian territories.

Mr Brown, who takes over later this month as Prime Minister, said that he still believed that there could be a "two states" solution to the Middle East, despite the recent violence in Gaza.

However, he also emphasised the importance of tackling poverty in the Palestinian territories if there was to be a lasting settlement.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ uklate...6714699,00.html


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian:


Da Boyz got their balcony back?


GravatarThe British police chief in Jerusalem, Douglas Duff, described such methods in his memoir published in 1953. He tells how to apply physical force without leaving marks.

A man right after Dick Cheney's black heart.


GravatarIt's going to rain all weekend here.

Ha.



This is the craziest June weather evah!


GravatarIt's not your bag? uh...groovy.


GravatarYou know, if someone would piss in the kool-aid, maybe the republicans would stop drinking it.


GravatarTerry C: Da Boyz got their balcony back?

They did! Here's Curly and L.E. enjoying it, this morning.
.


GravatarHamas reportage watch


GravatarRealClimate.org has a pretty good link up for those who need a primer on global warming

Pfft - I see nothing there about the Earth warming because God is hugging it.


Gravatari'm going to go prep for dinner. Maybe someone will post something positive by the time I get back, so my mood will change.

What an awful six and a half years we've had. Disgusting.


GravatarYou know, if someone would piss in the kool-aid, maybe the republicans would stop drinking it.

Oh, I suspect strongly that the opposite would happen.


GravatarYou know, if someone would piss in the kool-aid, maybe the republicans would stop drinking it. fourlegsgood

Terry C - still have that cartoon? You know the one.


GravatarYou know, if someone would piss in the kool-aid, maybe the republicans would stop drinking it.

there too far gone for that


GravatarJesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.


GravatarIn case someone missed this the other day when I posted it:

http://www.citypaper.net/article...ou-lost-the- war


Same old bullshit that THAT side spouted after Viet Nam.

Fuck 'em!


GravatarThe search is continuing for a British computer expert and his four bodyguards who were seized last month from a building belonging to the Iraqi finance ministry by men in police uniform.


GravatarFuckhead is at it again...

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com...ives/ 014655.php


Q. Why is he doing this? Why is Reid doing this?

LIEBERMAN: I have no idea. Then to say that Petraeus is out of touch? I mean, Harry Reid in Washington says David Petraeus, who's in Baghdad, away from his family, heroically trying to rally our forces and succeed over in Iraq... that he's out of touch? I mean, it's just - the danger here - my colleagues who have been opposed to the war have said "we're opposed to the war, but we support our troops." But when you start to attack the top two generals, you know, that's... that's wrong.


That's been the standard right-wing line for a couple of days now -- if you disapprove of a general, then you're necessarily anti-military and deserve to have your patriotism questioned. Yesterday, the Republican National Committee issued a statement saying that Reid "attack[ed] our military." Conservatives online are following along, insisting without reason that Reid made "anti-military slurs."

Since when is it heresy to question the competence of military leaders? Pace's tenure has, at times, been rocky. His relationship with congressional leaders has, at times, been awkward. For that matter, Petraeus' judgment has come under question of late. There need not be a rule that military leaders must remain criticism-free at all times.

Indeed, if generals must be exempted from criticism, and those who spend their lives in military service should not be questioned, why is it that John McCain offered some harsh words, in public, for the last general to command U.S. troops in Iraq? Opposing Gen. George Casey's confirmation as the Army's chief of staff, McCain cited the general's "unrealistically rosy" assessments and "failed leadership" and told him: "I question seriously the judgment that was employed in your execution of your responsibilities in Iraq. And we have paid a very, very heavy price in American blood and treasure because of what is now agreed to by literally everyone as a failed policy."

Was this outrageous, too? Did conservatives condemn McCain for levying a personal attack on a general in a time of war?

Or is it more likely the case that Republicans and Lieberman are desperate to manufacture scandals, whether the facts support them or not?


GravatarSee picture at bottom of page (no not Mark Foley!).

Pussy brings out the best in me.


GravatarJesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.
watertiger



Rudy seems to be pursuing a "buy high, sell low" investment strategy.


GravatarI'm going to go prep for dinner. Maybe someone will post something positive by the time I get back, so my mood will change.

What an awful six and a half years we've had. Disgusting.
mer | 06.16.07 - 3:38 pm | #


mer, I posted about Angie Paccione being at FDL.

And she's very positive. Glad to see Mr. Murder came over.

~


GravatarJesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.


That's like having Hitler as your cantor. Good luck Rudy!


GravatarJesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.


uh why?


GravatarJohn Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.

Well, this is shocking, I thought it was von Ribbentrop.


Gravatar"Jesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser."
--watertiger

Oh man, I should have stopped reading when I said I was going to.

Jesus FUCK God!

What the hell is he thinking?


GravatarJesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.


Birds of a feather and all that.


Gravatar

GravatarJesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.

uh why?


Bolton can set Rudi up with Pammy Juggs.


GravatarWhat the hell is he thinking?

Thinking?


GravatarJesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.

uh why?
Moonbootica, Ninjabi


They are both batshit insane.


Gravatar
John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.


Guiliani's campaign slogan: If you thought Bush wasn't incompetent and insane enough, vote for me.


GravatarThat's like having Hitler as your cantor. Good luck Rudy!

You shoulda heard Adolf recite the Kaddish, man.


GravatarGuiliani's campaign slogan: If you thought Bush wasn't incompetent and insane enough, vote for me.

What is really scary is that this slogan actually appeals to the base.


Gravatarwill Bolton accept Rudy's cross dressing?

unless Bolton has a request that Rudy dress up like Pammy Juggs


GravatarJohn Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.


they met at a key party at Jeanne Kirkpatrick's in '77


Gravataryou wanna know what the democratic congress is like?

it's like a 50 car pileup on the interstate with numerous fatalities, burning cars, injured people, children cant find their parents, you name it.

and then the authorities announce that an Amish Dr. has been dispatched and is horsing up the carriage and will be leaving for the 40 mile journey shortly.

that's what the congress is like.


GravatarJesus FUCK!

John Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.
watertiger | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 3:40 pm | #


Anyone wonder why the Jerusalem Post was been pimping Rudy?

P.S. NTodd, you gotta admit that pic and caption were pretty funny.

~


Gravatarhey imagine complaining about the starting lineup on your favourite baseball team and somebody says 'well if you can do a better job than do it.'


all you can say is 'wtf?'


GravatarP.S. NTodd, you gotta admit that pic and caption were pretty funny.

I found it to be horribly inappropriate and I shall be alert the moderator of this online forum to delete your fucking account.


GravatarGuiliani's campaign slogan: If you thought Bush wasn't incompetent and insane enough, vote for me.



Julie Annie = Mussolini II, Electric Boogaloo.

Plunger handles for everyone!


GravatarOops!

Icahn was been has cheezburger?

~


Gravatarhey imagine complaining about the starting lineup on your favourite baseball team and somebody says 'well if you can do a better job than do it.'

Yeah, 'cept government is by the People. Baseball ain't.


Gravatarthey met at a key party at Jeanne Kirkpatrick's in '77

The woman who thought that being tortured by "authoritarians" was less painful than being tortured by "totalitarians".


Gravatar"Red Dawn" is on AMC. Odd those invaders speak spanish.


GravatarThat's like having Hitler as your cantor. Good luck Rudy!

dooood!



GravatarYeah, 'cept government is by the People. Baseball ain't.

Wait, you should know better than that; IIRC you're a New Englander.

And good afternoon, all.
.


Gravatar"Red Dawn" is on AMC. Odd those invaders speak spanish.

WOLVERINES!


Gravatarthey met at a key party at Jeanne Kirkpatrick's in '77

introduced by Kurt Waldheim


GravatarP.S. NTodd, you gotta admit that pic and caption were pretty funny.

I found it to be horribly inappropriate and I shall be alert the moderator of this online forum to delete your fucking account.
NTodd, Scign Cult Leader | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 3:47 pm | #


So. I can post haloscams, but no longer fuck online?

~


GravatarVote for me, and I promise to have an even more fucked up foreign policy!


/ julie rudyiany


GravatarTerry C - still have that cartoon? You know the one.
JeffCO


http://thumbsnap.com/v/soVsr5mY.jpg


Gravatar
they met at a key party at Jeanne Kirkpatrick's in '77


I thought it was in the Leather Room at Plato's Retreat.


GravatarThe woman who thought that being tortured by "authoritarians" was less painful than being tortured by "totalitarians".

Which was perfectly easy to accept if, like her, you weren't the one being tortured.
.


GravatarIt's interesting that the on the banners it's just "Rudy" or "Rudy08".

Reminds me of "Lamar!"


Gravatarthey met at a key party at Jeanne Kirkpatrick's in '77

I thought it was in the Leather Room at Plato's Retreat.
watertiger


Back later, when I find some brain bleach.


Gravatar"Red Dawn" is on AMC. Odd those invaders speak spanish.



Oh, so THAT'S where all the trools are.

whacking off to their favorite right wing fantasy.


GravatarI think a lot of the 28 percenters think that chimpy's problem was that he lost his nerve and didn't go crazy enough.

Rudy will appeal to them. So will the Mitt.


GravatarYeah, 'cept government is by the People. Baseball ain't.

That's the supposed case. Problem is, Baseball is market centric and more open to suggestions and actually act on them. Government, not so much.


GravatarIt's interesting that the on the banners it's just "Rudy" or "Rudy08".

He's fashioning himself after Cher.

Complete with the Bob Mackie gowns.


GravatarI thought it was in the Leather Room at Plato's Retreat.

Jeanne was throwing her little soiree there.


Gravatar
"Red Dawn" is on AMC. Odd those invaders speak spanish.


Filthy pro-Castro Cubans and Nicaraguans!


GravatarTerry C - still have that cartoon? You know the one.

No - the guy answering the door saying something like "No thanks, I'm a Republican" one.


GravatarVote for me, and I promise to have an even more fucked up foreign policy!


/ julie rudyiany


"A broom handle up the ass of every Brown Terrorist who pisses me off!"


Gravatarthey met at a key party at Jeanne Kirkpatrick's in '77

I thought it was in the Leather Room at Plato's Retreat.


That's where the party was. Duh.


GravatarComplete with the Bob Mackie gowns.


Which are to die for!


GravatarComplete with the Bob Mackie gowns.
watertiger


the headdresses make him look taller!


GravatarBush warns he'll veto runway spending

No more welfare for Supermodels, dangit!!!


GravatarOh, so THAT'S where all the trools are.

whacking off to their favorite right wing fantasy.

"Oh, yeah . . . drink their blood, drink their blood! . . . oh, you naught little Wolverine girl, you!"


GravatarDeath comes to us all in the end, but yesterday it paid a special visit to the Stoneleigh Park exhibition centre, outside Coventry, for the biggest-ever gathering of the British funeral industry. And the message it came to deliver was clear: reaping doesn't always have to be grim.

"I'll never forget the first time I exhibited these ones," said Mary Tomes, of Colourful Coffins, gesturing at a display of caskets covered in vivid nature photographs, sports team colours, and sparkling holographic foil. (Another vendor, a few feet away, was exhibiting a coffin designed to look like a KitKat.) "I went to a big meeting, took them along, and when I unveiled them, everybody just sat and stared. Nobody said anything for ages. My husband said, 'Maybe you better sit down.' But eventually someone asked how much they cost, and after that, it all just took off."


http://business.guardian.co.uk/ s...2104379,00.html


GravatarCher - Half Breed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...related& search=

Nice tummy.


GravatarBush warns he'll veto runway spending

No more welfare for Supermodels, dangit!!!


You're either in, or you're out!


GravatarVote for me, and I promise to have an even more fucked up foreign policy!



The last man nearly ruined this place
He didn't know what to do with it.
If you think this country's bad off now
Just wait 'till I get through with it.

The treasury is low on dough;
The last man went and flew with it.
If you think we're short of money now
Just wait 'till I get through with it.


GravatarNo one's seen Vestal Vespa, lately? I was gonna alert her to free gas in Denver for scooter riders, but I suspect it'd be a wash for her to ride up there to get it.
.


GravatarRudy's costume when he inspects the navy



Gravatar"Cher - Half Breed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z...?v=Z...related& search=

Nice tummy."

blech.

this is much better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eTKL8MNH95Q


Gravatar
That's been the standard right-wing line for a couple of days now -- if you disapprove of a general, then you're necessarily anti-military and deserve to have your patriotism questioned.


I'm not at all patriotic about a damn thing the military is doing today and have told many of my wingnutted friends that when they start in with the asinine "support the troops" manure.

I also tell them I support the troops. I support bringing them home. Tomorrow.


GravatarBushboy knows about as much about fiscal responsibility as he does Relativity theory, which is nada, zip, zero.

Could you imagine Bushboy, who could fuck up "Fool me once, shame on you," explaining Einstein's views on time and space?

I'd pay to see that.


GravatarTerry C - still have that cartoon? You know the one.

No - the guy answering the door saying something like "No thanks, I'm a Republican" one.
JeffCO

Is this the one?

http://thumbsnap.com/v/gAHLCniP.jpg


Gravatarthis is much better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h? v=eTKL8MNH95Q
jdw




I love you.


Gravatarif only I could find a clear picture of Cher astride the big Navy guns...

believe me. attaturk and i searched high and low for it.


GravatarIs this the one?

That's it! Cf. Kool-Aid pissing.


GravatarJeffCo,

You rang?


GravatarCourtyard by Marriot will deliver the luxury hotel experience to the masses.


GravatarCould you imagine Bushboy, who could fuck up "Fool me once, shame on you," explaining Einstein's views on time and space?

"The best way to describe this would be . . . 'It's about time, it's about space, two astronauts in the strangest place.' Yeah, used to love getting a buzz on and crashin' to that."


GravatarAnd a Seething Webb to Terry C.


GravatarI support the troops. I support bringing them home. Tomorrow.
billy b


Amen!


http://thumbsnap.com/v/lGTSWxpr.gif


Gravatarbo knows registered Republicans.


GravatarCould you imagine Bushboy, who could fuck up "Fool me once, shame on you," explaining Einstein's views on time and space?


See, you just hate the president just because!


/wingnut


GravatarGo Joe and don't let the door hit you in the ass - just go away.

He can't flip the Senate even if he registers as a Repub...go ahead and do it.

Harry Reid should show some balls and take this traitor's committee assignments away so he is nowhere near the Dem leadership.


GravatarDo they have free coffee at Courtyard by Marriot?


GravatarJohn Bolton is Rudy's foreign policy adviser.
watertiger

PNAC never dies.


GravatarI'm composed of sawdust from Crawford.


GravatarDo they have free coffee at Courtyard by Marriot?



They offer posthumous baptisms!


GravatarHarry Reid should show some balls and take this traitor's committee assignments away

It's all part of the plan. [/Repo Man]


GravatarI thought it was in the Leather Room at Plato's Retreat.
watertiger


Red leather, yellow leather
Red leather, yellow leather
Red leather, yellow leather
Red leather, yellow leather
Red leather, yellow leather


GravatarWarm...leatherette.


Gravatar
Harry Reid should show some balls and take this traitor's committee assignments away


Yup. Dump the quisling.


GravatarFive socks, a banana leaf, two strikes.

No balls.


Gravatar"I love you."

SCHWING!!!


Gravatarso NTodd is taking on the US Government. good on him.


Gravataraiiight. walking on the beach is in order.

laytuh.


GravatarI bought a wooden whistle



It wouldn't whistle.


GravatarWarm...leatherette.
watertiger

I'll be back in a little while


GravatarTC -

I love that ribbon.

I have to get one for my office.

That'll drive em nuts.


Gravatar""Red Dawn" is on AMC. Odd those invaders speak spanish.

WOLVERINES!
"

You realize that, by the definition of the Bush Administration, those kids are "unlawful enemy combatants", and as such, are under no protection of the Geneva Conventions, nor the Constitution.


GravatarGod, can Lieberman suck any more? Now he's trashing Harry Reid. HoJo is just such an asshole. I'm getting to hate him worse than Bush.

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/show...do? diaryId=7240


GravatarI bought a wooden whistle



It wouldn't whistle.



We buy wooden puppets.


They do whistle.

/PNAC


GravatarWarm...leatherette.
watertiger


Oh...please don't...


GravatarLIEBERMAN: I don't know what Harry Reid is up to. I was very upset, even offended, by what he said about General Pace and General Petraeus. Look, you call General Pace incompetent? That's abs - this is a man who has devoted his entire life to the Marine corps, the service of our country, defense of our country.

Which doesn't make you immune to being incompetent. I mean, look at you, Joe!


Gravatarthere's a story at www.salon.com (behind subscription firewall) about how all the money that was supposed to be used in Colombia to train Colombians to fight the narcotraficantes is being spent on consultants, like in Iraq, and the Colombians aren't getting the training they were supposed to get.


GravatarI bought a wooden whistle
It wouldn't whistle.

Then I bought a steel whistle
and it steel wouldn't whistle


Gravatarthere's a story at www.salon.com (behind subscription firewall) about how all the money that was supposed to be used in Colombia to train Colombians to fight the narcotraficantes is being spent on consultants, like in Iraq, and the Colombians aren't getting the training they were supposed to get.


WOT gets better ratings than the war on drugs.


GravatarThe Fenway Faithful are waving banners with an asterix on them, as Bonds steps up to the plate. Gotta love it...


GravatarRed leather, yellow leather
Red leather, yellow leather


OK, OK, aw jeez...red & yellow, friend of...no, wait...black & red, kills Fred...Help me out, here, this is important!


GravatarA pictoral essay. In technocolor.


GravatarA pictoral essay. In technocolor.
trifecta |


Alf?


GravatarI made my wife's wingnut uncle's head explode by pointing out that if Red Dawn was about Iraq then we'd be playing the role of the commies.


GravatarIt's an inside politics joke Jim.


GravatarA pictoral essay. In technocolor.


Did you see Chevy Chase on Law And Order last night?


Man, that episode had some deep issues that were all negative to the progressive movement. There was a very hidden agenda in that one.


Gravatar
there's a story at www.salon.com (behind subscription firewall)


Want to get behind the "firewall"?
Click on Atrios's link to Glenn Greenwald. It gets you into Salon without you even having to click through a dumb advertisement.


GravatarI saw that Chevy Chase episode when it first aired.


GravatarPHILADELPHIA -- Earl Hartman was a little rattled by something he says he found in a can of green beans: a snake head. The Philadelphia man said he found the inch-long head on his plate Wednesday night, right between a chicken breast and buttered noodles. He said it came out of the green bean can. “Yep, it just lay there on the plate looking up at me with them beady little eyes. Hell, it looked like money to me!” He said through his lawyer Susan Foryeu.

http://doombrother.blogspot.com/


GravatarLIEBERMAN: I don't know what Harry Reid is up to. I was very upset, even offended, by what he said about General Pace and General Petraeus. Look, you call General Pace incompetent? That's abs - this is a man who has devoted his entire life to the Marine corps, the service of our country, defense of our country.


GravatarOK, OK, aw jeez...red & yellow, friend of...no, wait...black & red, kills Fred...Help me out, here, this is important!
Elmer, PHD hisshissrattlerattl

Red and Yellow kill a fellow. . . .


GravatarAlf?

LIEbermans voice sounds just like the Dad on Alf. It's uncanny, check it out.


Gravatarthis is a man who has devoted his entire life to the Marine corps, the service of our country, defense of our country.



John Kerry?


Gravatarmer, I posted about Angie Paccione being at FDL.

And she's very positive. Glad to see Mr. Murder came over.

~
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©


She's got such a fluid style of putting thoughts to word.

It would be much interesting to converse with her in depth. People in her district would be quite fortunate to select her.


Gravatar"if only I could find a clear picture of Cher astride the big Navy guns..."

You mean this one?

http://thumbsnap.com/v/d69lXOEX.jpg


GravatarLIEbermans voice sounds just like the Dad on Alf. It's uncanny, check it out.
aangus |

Ah. I remember that know. I thought maybe that gomer had run for office.


GravatarI liked Alf's dad a lot better. Alf was ok too. Just Like Hojo, he's from Connecticut.


GravatarAlf.


Another of those wildly popular programs I just could not watch.


GravatarAfternoon, rational people.


GravatarIt would be much interesting to converse with her in depth. People in her district would be quite fortunate to select her.
Mr.Murder |


I was struck by that too. In that clip of her debate with Churchlady Musgrave, the difference between the latter's canned platitudes and Paccione's answer, with an idea expressed with a beginning, a middle, and an end.


GravatarGod, can Lieberman suck any more? Now he's trashing Harry Reid. HoJo is just such an asshole. I'm getting to hate him worse than Bush.

http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/show...do? diaryId=7240
Nick Danger


Reid will get worked over pretty hard during tomorrow morning's squat and gobble shows. They need their weekly evil Dem 'scandal'.
btw Hey Joe, didn't Bush just FIRE that friggin' general?
.


Gravatarbye for now


Gravatarmuch more*

t


GravatarIf Pace were a civilian, would we be pretending everything in Iraq is going just great? If Pace is doing a good job, why was he not only fired but essentially replaced by Lute a month ago, in a job it took Bush several months to get anyone to yes to, fercrissake!


GravatarReid will get worked over pretty hard during tomorrow morning's squat and gobble shows. They need their weekly evil Dem 'scandal'.
btw Hey Joe, didn't Bush just FIRE that friggin' general?
.
Agent Orange


Why? Because he dissed Pace and Petraeus?


GravatarAngie Paccione says
June 16th, 2007 at 1:00 pm

Thanks, again, Howie and Jaqrat. I have so much admiration for Hilda Solis. She was a great supporter of mine and a great help to our campaign in 2006.

If we want things to be different, we’ve got to do different things. That means speaking out. It means standing up and having the courage to stand for our convictions.

Our democracy needs it. In fact, our democracy demands it.

I’m not going to be intimidated by anything in this race. I know what it takes to go the distance, and I am in it all the way.

Best to you always!


Laters moonbats. Link is to comment 100, but John From Cincinnati fux up the the process. At least that's who I'm blaming.

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GravatarImagine her speaking on the floor or in committee...


GravatarAfter a life dedicated to the Marine Corps, George Bush fired Pace so he could spend more time with his family.
Compassionate Commander in Chiefism.
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GravatarEven if a general is incompetent, YOU MUST NOT SAY IT.

The danger from saying it far outweighs the danger from the incompetent waging of war. Appearance is far more important than reality, people. Come on.


GravatarImagine her speaking on the floor or in committee...
Mr.Murder | 06.16.07 - 4:30 pm | #


Imagine!
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GravatarI figure somewhere in the dark depths of George Bush's little mind he sees himself as another Abraham Lincoln firing one general after another until he gets it right.
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GravatarThe president will soon run out of generals to run his war. Then what happens?


GravatarThe president will soon run out of generals to run his war. Then what happens?

It's like Uno: whoever runs out first wins!


GravatarThe president will soon run out of generals to run his war. Then what happens?


There's always Blackwater.


GravatarThe president will soon run out of generals to run his war. Then what happens?

He promotes a few Kentucky Colonels.


GravatarI figure somewhere in the dark depths of George Bush's little mind he sees himself as another Abraham Lincoln firing one general after another until he gets it right.
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Agent Orange


I'd be surprised if he knew enough history to be able to formulate such a thought.


GravatarThe president will soon run out of generals to run his war. Then what happens?

Are the Hessians still available?
.


GravatarWhen is Colonel Kadaffi getting promoted?


GravatarI'd be surprised if he knew enough history to be able to formulate such a thought.
R. McGeddon


Recall Bush a while back saying he read 3 Shakespeares, 2 Lincolns and a Camus!
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GravatarI will say this about Gen. Pace. He was given the option of resigning, but he refused.


GravatarWhen is Colonel Kadaffi getting promoted?


As soon as Colonel Kurtz steps down from the presidency.


GravatarThe president will soon run out of generals to run his war. Then what happens?

There must be a whole bunch of bitter former Soviet generals. Putting them in Iraq might keep them from peddling nuclear material to rogue states.


GravatarRecall Bush a while back saying he read 3 Shakespeares, 2 Lincolns and a Camus!


And a really great tome about a pet goat.


GravatarI bought a wooden whistle
It wouldn't whistle.

Then I bought a steel whistle
and it steel wouldn't whistle
DWD - Dystopic | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 4:11 pm | #

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first they came for the wooden whistles. but i wasn't a communist so i didn't care.
then they came for the steel whistles. but i wasn't a jew so i didn't care.

wait. maybe that's not 'it.'


GravatarI will pimp Radio Paradise.

Again.


GravatarI'm getting pretty tired of people telling me to write to my congressman. I have none. None that would even give me the time of day, that is.


GravatarI'm getting pretty tired of people telling me to write to my congressman. I have none.

Get a puppy instead. At least you can train them to poop outside.


GravatarRecall Bush a while back saying he read 3 Shakespeares, 2 Lincolns and a Camus

Wonder if he can discuss any of those works intelligently, unlike the Bible when asked point blank after his "rebirth".

He's got the level of concentration that requires Cliff's Notes for the Readers' Digest.


GravatarMike Nifong says: "Take my license."


GravatarI'm getting pretty tired of people telling me to write to my congressman.

I'm getting pretty tired of people telling me they're getting pretty tired.

I know I'm tired of it.


GravatarI'm getting pretty tired of people telling me to write to my congressman. I have none. None that would even give me the time of day, that is.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted


I don't write Dianne Feinstein anymore. I call her local office and chew out whichever poor soul answers the phone.

I always feel better after venting.


GravatarI'm getting pretty tired of people telling me to write to my congressman. I have none. None that would even give me the time of day, that is.

I write Henry Brown all of the time. If nothing else, it costs staff time to reply to me in a nonsensical way.


GravatarRecall Bush a while back saying he read 3 Shakespeares, 2 Lincolns and a Camus


Don't forget KKKarl arranges book discussion groups for w. For real. The man has nothing better to do.


GravatarI'd write my congressman but I'm pretty sure he can't read.
.


GravatarHe's got the level of concentration that requires Cliff's Notes for the Readers' Digest.

I am SOOO stealing that one!


GravatarI'm pretty tired of trademark dave being so tired. Why be tired when there's new SUPER ENERGY DRINK? Now available at the Tastee Freez, just in time for summer.


GravatarI'd write my congressman but I'm pretty sure he can't read.
.
Agent Orange




There is that, of course.


GravatarBTW, I'm extremely happy with my congressman.

He always sends me a reply, too!


GravatarThe man has nothing better to do.
ql in was in ny |


There are only so many weeds a real cowpoke can pull.
.


GravatarI'd write my congressman but I'm pretty sure he can't read.

His response may produce evidence he can't read.


GravatarI think the Press Corpse should start asking Chimpy about well known sections of the Bible. These should be right in his wheelhouse, and would expose him for the pitiful fraud that he is.


GravatarI'm pretty tired of trademark dave being so tired.

Curse Sir Walter Raliegh - he was such a stupid git!


GravatarTC -

I love that ribbon.

I have to get one for my office.

That'll drive em nuts.
billy b


I'm seeing a lot of them lately.

Not too many of those ugly Chinese made yellow jobs.

The ones that COMMANDED us to "Support the troops."


GravatarI'm pretty tired of trademark dave being so tired. Why be tired when there's new SUPER ENERGY DRINK? Now available at the Tastee Freez, just in time for summer.

The Dairy Queen has many varieties of energy products, in many different flavors!


GravatarI write Henry Brown all of the time. If nothing else, it costs staff time to reply to me in a nonsensical way.
Snow, Contrary


Write to him c/o the local rag.

There are will be more readers than Brown's staff and you need the name recognition.


GravatarI think the Press Corpse should start asking Chimpy about well known sections of the Bible.

People would then cry about "religious tests".


GravatarWhy be tired when there's new SUPER ENERGY DRINK? Now available at the Tastee Freez, just in time for summer.

I'm an Orange Satan™ man, myself.

It's Deliciously Devilish!©


Gravatar
The Dairy Queen has many varieties of energy products, in many different flavors!


They use ingredients with rat poison from China.


GravatarYou think I'm kidding about my congressman not being able to read? Just look at his photo!

http://www.house.gov/lobiondo/
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GravatarSeems like the only congressman I can write to in TN is John Duncan, a republican. He has been against the war before it started. But it doesn't seem his name is amongst the A listers.


GravatarI'm an Orange Satan™ man, myself.

Then you should go over to dKos with your vile drinks.


GravatarThe Dairy Queen has many varieties of energy products, in many different flavors!

Curiously, they all come out of the same spigot...


GravatarThen you should go over to dKos with your vile drinks.

Am I being thrown out of the cult?

Landru! Landru!! Guide us!!!


GravatarWriting to my Congressman is a waste of time. He's a fucking socialist, for Christ's sake!


GravatarAm I being thrown out of the cult?

I'll just observe that people need to watch what they say in times such as these.


GravatarThat wheezing sound you may have heard this week amid the chaos in Gaza, the carnage in Baghdad and the conflict in Lebanon was the final gasps of the Bush Doctrine in its death throes. Just two years after the President and his neo-conservative allies basked in the glow of their self-proclaimed moment of triumph, the Bush Doctrine of no safe havens for terrorists, American preventive war and democracy promotion is discredited, discarded - and dead.

For the story, see:
"The Death of the Bush Doctrine."


GravatarAm I being thrown out of the cult?



Don't
Bother trying to find them
They will be coming to you
Fight,
Fight and destroy until you can't take anymore

Stay
Spill the blood of rebels
They are the children of hell
Flesh,
Of the undead
Stopping at nothing to kill


GravatarWhew.

The kids are awake from naps, as am I, and they are rarin' to go. Me, not so much ...

Just wanted to see how things were going over here in Yonder Crackhouse.


GravatarHaven't been over to Tena's today, anything new there?


GravatarSupport our troops - bring them home NOW!


http://carryabigsticker.com/ blac...lack_ribbon.htm


GravatarI write to Clinton and Schumer all the time.

Clinton's got a robo reply system about how she's so concerned about fill in the blank and Schumer never replies.


GravatarWell, you're right, Gimlet. I fear the local rag dreads my letters. It is enjoyable.


GravatarNot only does my congressman have groovy video on his site, he apparently has a "presence" on Second Life.

And he always sends one of his aides to speak at the big peace rallies.


GravatarTena says she has made her point and so is going off line for awhile.


GravatarThe kids are coming upstairs. I'm hiding.

(not really)


GravatarSpeaking of supporting the troops, the one thing the Dems have managed to do quite nicely is box in the GOP when it comes to raising the VA budget.

As much as I am beginning to tire of the extended election season, it does have a few side benefits.


GravatarClinton's got a robo reply system about how she's so concerned about fill in the blank and Schumer never replies.

Taxation without representation!


GravatarJust wanted to see how things were going over here in Yonder Crackhouse.

We don't use crack in The Cult.


GravatarClinton's got a robo reply system about how she's so concerned about fill in the blank and Schumer never replies.

Miller sends me snail mail, even when I'm the one sending him some robo-mail...


GravatarI can't imagine Bush reading anything.

His attention span's too short.


GravatarI'm so sick of the GOP saying they support the troops, when every single piece of evidence shows otherwise.

That meme has to stop. Now.


GravatarDWD, I was. But I've decided she started a "meta" blog. Not sure how long it can last.

I've decided I do want to comment (only one), but I'm still working it out because I like her, but don't agree with what she is saying.


GravatarTena says she has made her point and so is going off line for awhile.


Well that just sucks.


GravatarTena says she has made her point and so is going off line for awhile.

That's the best idea she's had since she started making her "point".


GravatarWe don't use crack in The Cult.
NTodd, Frootie Oatie Bar


Now we're a cult?

And me without a tabula rasa.


GravatarI write to Clinton and Schumer all the time.

Clinton's got a robo reply system about how she's so concerned about fill in the blank and Schumer never replies.


Hi Honeybear!!



Gravatar
The president will soon run out of generals to run his war. Then what happens?


Gaddafi's running Libya, and he's only a colonel.


GravatarWe don't use crack in The Cult.
NTodd, Frootie Oatie Bar


Apply for status as a religion, then you would be tax exempt.


GravatarAnd me without a tabula rasa.

You are NOT of the Body! You're NOT!!

LANDRU!!!


GravatarAh, I get it. Jr. is putting Jrette.'s socks and shoes on and wants to go to the playground.

I suppose some fresh air would do us all some good. The local children's museum was a big hit earlier today (during the torrential rain).


GravatarNow we're a cult?

You don't appear to be Of The Body...


GravatarOh, maybe don't have to compose my thoughts then.


GravatarTena says she has made her point and so is going off line for awhile.


I think she's acting a little hysterically.

If Duncan wants to ban people that's his fucking business.

It's just a blog and people shouldn't take things so fucking seriously. Sheesh. Get a life.


Gravatar Centaur!

How was the rest of your trip?


I wish I could just tell people to get the fuck over themselves without appearing rude.


GravatarMy fucking congressman used to be a member of a fucking hippie band that used fucking drugs and stuff. I voted for him, and do I get hippie females showing up with weed asking to give me blow jobs? Nooooooooooooo!!! Worthless piece of garbage. Representational democracy my ass!


GravatarIt appears I owe dave a Coke of Landru.


GravatarIt's just a blog and people shouldn't take things so fucking seriously. Sheesh. Get a life.

Now you - YOU are of the Body.

Peace, friend, and joy to you...


GravatarIf Duncan wants to ban people that's his fucking business.

Is that what the whole thing was about?


GravatarDoes this mean I have to pledge undying fealty to the Tastee Freez?

Or maybe that's spelled "felaty."


GravatarIt's just a blog and people shouldn't take things so fucking seriously. Sheesh. Get a life.

WHY IS FOURLEGS THROWING TENA UNDER THE BUS?!?!?!


GravatarYa know, I'm not much of a joiner.

If this is a cult, it's a pretty piss poor one.


GravatarThat Lennon video, the closeups of his singing that song, there's a kind of presence at work behind those eyes.

He has a kind of intensity to it, a passion, an abiding vision to that song.

The sax note they hold on the chorus transcends the atmosphere of that venue...
It's not a finished work, that song and its theme. It's like the energy you would see in concert at the hands of an impressionist in Central park. There's water and the wind's face breathes on it, seasons spin like yarns through the trees and grass, people walk together or in the company of their own thoughts, kids play and vendors converse with customers...

Somewhere there is sunlight set in stone, "IMAGINE" is its message, and the suns' warm brilliance reflects the same power as the weather and time shape its hardy surface like all being shapes our souls...


GravatarIt appears I owe dave a Coke of Landru.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... with a scoop of ice cream, please!


GravatarDirect link to proper response to NTodd.

~


GravatarAnd me without a tabula rasa.

John Locke used to call a vagina his tabula rasa.


GravatarWHY IS FOURLEGS THROWING TENA UNDER THE BUS?!?!?!

Oh, stop it.

Before I throw you under a bus.


GravatarIs that what the whole thing was about?

Who the fuck really knows. It's hard to tell with all the overwrought "truth to power" bullshit laid on thicker than Bush's skull.


GravatarGood ol' John Locke.


GravatarIf this is a cult, it's a pretty piss poor one.

You have much work to do, grasshopper, before you get the free t-shirt and laminated membership card...


GravatarTena says she has made her point and so is going off line for awhile.

That's the best idea she's had since she started making her "point".
NTodd, Frootie Oatie Bar


Funny, she's become quite regular at my place.

Maybe I should start hanging out there....obviously it's where the cook kids are going....


GravatarI have been fighting . . . something. . . not depression exactly, more like a hopelessness. But I am not blaming anyone else for this. I am blaming: a) forces outside that I cannot control or b) forces inside that I cannot control.

I feel like Tena is arriving at the same place but has not come to the same conclusion. . . .


GravatarIs that what the whole thing was about?

I'm actually not really sure. But I think that's part of it.


GravatarIf this is a cult, it's a pretty piss poor one.

Well, the Snack Committee is debating what to put out in the Holy Bowls. Instead of bitching, maybe you could help us decide.


GravatarMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... with a scoop of ice cream, please!


You wanna be careful with the usage of the word cream around the NTodd.


Gravatar
If this is a cult, it's a pretty piss poor one.


Just to get a small gathering hooked up it's like herding cats.

We do it in spite of ourselves.


Gravatar"Cook kids..."

No, no.."cool kids...."

Maybe Freud was right.


GravatarWhen I wanted to be a Serious Blogger™, I spent inordinate amounts of time at the Orange Satan.

Now, I just enjoy the people and the intercourse here, so I stick around. If it's a cult, so be it. Whether I'm kewl or not (and I neither know nor care), it's fun.






Rhetorical intercourse, naturally.


GravatarIs that what the whole thing was about?

More like cranky old people pissed off at young whippersnappers.

I speak, btw, as both a cranky old person and a young whippersnapper, depending upon the crowd...


Gravatar
Maybe I should start hanging out there....obviously it's where the cook kids are going....


No, there hasn't been a single discussion of recipes. Just Blak getting pissy about buses and other silliness.


GravatarLieberman slams Reidfor criticizing Gens. Pace and Petraeus. 4:20 pm | Comment (12)
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06...man-slams-reid/

get rid of Lieberman now.

remove him from any Democratic posts


GravatarRhetorical intercourse, naturally.

That's gay.


Gravatarshe's become quite regular at my place.

Must be the bran. Maybe that was the problem!


GravatarMaybe I should start hanging out there....obviously it's where the cook kids are going....

The cook kids?


GravatarJust to get a small gathering hooked up it's like herding cats.

We do it in spite of ourselves.
HoneyBearKelly


Gave up on herding cats. Now I load frogs into wheelbarrows.


GravatarThat's gay.
NTodd, Frootie Oatie Bar


Yeah, well, you know how I know you're gay?

You like Coldplay.


Gravatarand do I get hippie females showing up with weed asking to give me blow jobs?
Spinoza


http://www.lestersworld.net/ugly.../ugly- woman.jpg
Oh Spinoza sweetie I'll meet you behind the Tastee Freeze in ten. Bring cash you great big hunk.


Gravatar"I feel like Tena is arriving at the same place but has not come to the same conclusion. . . ."
--DWD

I don't know. Tena was always so optimistic, thinking justice would prevail. Hope she is right.


GravatarWhen I wanted to be a Serious Blogger™, I spent inordinate amounts of time at the Orange Satan.

Blogging is serious?

Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong....


GravatarGave up on herding cats. Now I load frogs into wheelbarrows.

Just like the Germans during the Depression...


GravatarYou like Coldplay.


Wapish!


GravatarI think there's more going on in the Tena saga than just blogwars. But I could be wrong.


GravatarYou like Coldplay.
Sinfonian, father of two




GravatarWhen I wanted to be a Serious Blogger™, I spent inordinate amounts of time at the Orange Satan.

I'm not interested in being a serious blogger.

I just wanna post some pictures and occasionally vent.

Look, Tena is entitled to her opinion, but her putting up a blog with a "manual" on how to deal with being an internet commenter strikes me as rather... goofy.


GravatarYeah, well, you know how I know you're gay?

You like Coldplay.


Um. You must be mixing me up with that Gay Namestealer NTodd.

I like ABBA and Queen. Duh.


GravatarThe whole WGG-Tena thing is so weird. I think they were having an affair. And Tena felt she had to diss this blog to show WGG her true love for him. And then they ran off to a trailer park in Kansas and had a lovechild who they named Bacon or Toddler or Nudibranch. Anyhow, it's justa theory.


Gravatarher putting up a blog with a "manual" on how to deal with being an internet commenter strikes me as rather... goofy.

You are indeed of The Body.


Gravatar
That's the best idea she's had since she started making her "point".


I agree.

Her blog posts have been rather incoherent. She makes a bit more sense in her comments section, but given that she really doesn't put anything into context, if you had no awareness of what made her go off in the first place, you'd have virtually no idea about what the hell she's rambling about.


GravatarI'm gonna need a bigger wheelbarrow...


GravatarMike Nifong is disbarred.


GravatarWell, the Snack Committee is debating what to put out in the Holy Bowls. Instead of bitching, maybe you could help us decide.

Fuck you.

I don't belong to cults, you tastee freeze ho.


GravatarOkay, I don't take blogging too seriously. That was my point. I was probably too clever by half with that one.

And the Coldplay line was from The 40-Year-Old Virgin. Nothing personal.

And now Jrette. is saying "Daddy bye-byes," so we must be going.

Catch you all laterz.


GravatarOh hell, Tena was here forever. That is why people are talking about her.


GravatarAnyhow, it's justa theory.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.


GravatarThe whole WGG-Tena thing is so weird. I think they were having an affair. And Tena felt she had to diss this blog to show WGG her true love for him. And then they ran off to a trailer park in Kansas and had a lovechild who they named Bacon or Toddler or Nudibranch. Anyhow, it's justa theory.
spinoza


It has to do with aliens. And experiments. And little bits of metal in the neck that give you cancer if you remove them.

And frogs. Somehow, frogs and wheelbarrows are involved, too.


GravatarFuckin' slanties.

I hardly ever get them.


GravatarIt would be irresponsible not to speculate.

That's why I keep a speculum handy.


GravatarI don't belong to cults, you tastee freeze ho.

Well, then you're banned.


GravatarCatch you all laterz.
Sinfonian, father of two | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 5:13 pm | #


I'll catch you all, soonerz or laterz.
~


GravatarI think there's more going on in the Tena saga than just blogwars. But I could be wrong.

I can totally understand her feelings. I don't agree but I wouldn't put anything into it beyond that.


GravatarI love you 4lg.

I'm going to watch the rain.

Later.


GravatarNow on TCM: "Where the Boys Are." To be followed by "How to Stuff a Wild Bikini."

Talk about "of the body"!


GravatarOh hell, Tena was here forever. That is why people are talking about her.

Don't get me wrong, I like Tena.

I just don't feel the compulsion to indulge her in this craziness.


GravatarOh hell, Tena was here forever. That is why people are talking about her.


I really like her, and liked her optimism.


That's why I really wonder about the A list bloggers HATE you comment. That comes from out of nowhere in my estimation.


GravatarMike Nifong is disbarred.

He deserved it. Gonzo deserves it more, though.


GravatarI love you 4lg.

I'm going to watch the rain.

Later.


Back atcha babe!!


GravatarAnd the Coldplay line was from The 40-Year-Old Virgin. Nothing personal.



I know.

I wince when I even THINK of that scene with the guy getting waxed.


GravatarMike Nifong is disbarred.

Thank God! Imagine someone wrongfully accusing some rich white kids of a crime!


GravatarMike Nifong is disbarred.
Snow, Contrary


I wonder if he had any empathetic idea of how much he was potentially wrecking those Lacrosse players with that prosecution?

I guess he is about to find out.

The only difference being that he deserves it.


GravatarMike Nifong is disbarred.
Snow, Contrary


Rarely, if ever, is a DA treated this way. I know nothing of the case, but it sure looks like the lesson here is: don't mess with the fraternity boys in North Carolina.


GravatarI really wonder about the A list bloggers HATE you comment. That comes from out of nowhere in my estimation.

A Somerby overdose...


GravatarMike Nifong is disbarred.

Thank God! Imagine someone wrongfully accusing some rich white kids of a crime!
dave™©


Yeah, how about that?


GravatarI'm pretty tired of trademark dave being so tired. Why be tired when there's new SUPER ENERGY DRINK? Now available at the Tastee Freez, just in time for summer.

But, will it float?


GravatarThat's why I really wonder about the A list bloggers HATE you comment. That comes from out of nowhere in my estimation.

Yes, it's totally random.

I'm pretty sure Atrios doesn't waste time hating any of us.


Gravatar...the lesson here is: don't mess with the fraternity boys in North Carolina.

Fuckin-a, bubba.


GravatarIf this is a cult, it's a pretty piss poor one.
fourlegsgood


Every morning I get up and wait for Atrios to give me instructions, he never does. I did manage to hem and hang the kitchen curtains today, sans instructions.

I think the larger point Tena is making is that many people come to the blogs for the commenters as much as anything and we thus should be thinking twice before we make someone like Atrios rich and famous and powerful. And as she points out, all the A bloggers are white males who don't necessarily represent her pov. I guess she forgot Gilly. And really, do we know? At least that's what I get out it.


Gravatarthe lesson here is: don't mess with the fraternity boys in North Carolina.


That does appear to be the lesson.


GravatarBut, will it float?

Whaddaya think, Paul?


GravatarI did manage to hem and hang the kitchen curtains today, sans instructions.

Sounds like your bucking for the Lead Wife position.


GravatarNot defending Nifong, mind you. Just wondering where the outrage is when DA's do the same and worse to poor blacks and Mexicans. The Innocence Project (if that's the right name) has detailed hundreds of egregious cases of prosecutions, none of which have caused a DA to be disbarred. I'm just wondering why Nifong is getting it so publicly. And it's gotta be because of who he prosecuted.

Or is that all too obvious?


Gravatar...but it sure looks like the lesson here is: don't mess with the fraternity boys in North Carolina.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin


???

Look real hard for another one.


GravatarRarely, if ever, is a DA treated this way. I know nothing of the case, but it sure looks like the lesson here is: don't mess with the fraternity boys in North Carolina.

Well, yeah. But he deserved it. I think the lesson to everyone is that a DA has a lot of power and they can fuck anyone's world.

Just because he went after rich white kids doesn't make his transgressions any less wrong.


GravatarJust wondering where the outrage is when DA's do the same and worse to poor blacks and Mexicans.

Oh, you are definitely not of the Body!


Gravatarql, did you ever get the floor fixed?


GravatarImagine someone wrongfully accusing some rich white kids of a crime!

I can certainly understand that sentiment; but I would rather this serve as lesson for all prosecutors than as an example of rich white boys getting off.


GravatarBTW, Tastee Freez offers something called "Co-Branding". For an initial fee of $5,000 you can add Tastee Freez soft serve to your existing restaurant menu. .. You need only four linear fee to add Tastee Freez to your concept.

So, does this mean if you happen to own a Hooters, you can then have a "Hooters Tastee Freez"?


GravatarMike Nifong is disbarred.
Snow, Contrary


When is Bradley Schlozman getting disbarred?

~


GravatarActually, I didn't read a Camus, but I think I've ridden in one. It's was one of the new things called hybrid cars. It's what you get when you cross a Camry with a Lexus.


GravatarHot & humid here in Chi, so I'm going to go out and toil in the broiling sun picking weeds on my own land, my own little patch of (weedy) soil. And then I'm going to drink some cold beer! God bless America, that's what I have to say, God bless America.


GravatarJust because he went after rich white kids doesn't make his transgressions any less wrong.

Let's see a list of all the other "wrongful" prosecutions that nobody gave a fuck about because the victims weren't rich white boys.


GravatarGeez, I didn't know he had died.


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bi...r& GRid=19861079


GravatarWhen is Bradley Schlozman getting disbarred?

You know the answer.


A list republicans are exempt from the pettiness of the law.


GravatarAnyhoo, we should ask our host:

Hey Atrios, do you HATE me? Me? Four legs good?

Or just Ntodd?


GravatarI would rather this serve as lesson for all prosecutors than as an example of rich white boys getting off.

Well, I'd like to win the Lotto tonight.

I don't think either one of us will get our wish...


GravatarJust wondering where the outrage is when DA's do the same and worse to poor blacks and Mexicans.

Even if it wasn't what the D.A. charged 'em with, them boys was guilty of somethin', believe you me.


GravatarME, Atrios! Hate ME!!!


GravatarComplaint: Schlozman Aimed to Replace Lawyers with "Good Americans"



His definition of "Good Americans" being total fascist douchebags.


GravatarJust because he went after rich white kids doesn't make his transgressions any less wrong.
fourlegsgood, kittened


Didn't say they were; but why him?

In Texas, the only time I ever saw a lawyer disbarred was for breach of fiduciary duty (screwing with the client's money, basically). And it had to be pretty damned egregious to make that happen.

DA's screw over defendants constantly. It usually isn't caught because they have court appointed lawyers with no time, no money, and no means to investigate the prosecution. Is Nifong worse than any other DA in the country? I think not. Is he guiltier? I think not. He got caught. That doesn't make him innocent.

But it sure doesn't mean "the system worked." 'Cause had it been a black fraternity, and a white girl as victim, we wouldn't be having this discussion.


Gravatar"Cook kids..."

No, no.."cool kids...."

Maybe Freud was right.
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin


Cook(County) kids are Obama fans.


GravatarAnd then I'm going to drink some cold beer! God bless America, that's what I have to say, God bless America.
strawhat ♥'s Al too | 06.16.07 - 5:23 pm | #


TRAITOR!


You didn't bless the troops in that prayer.


GravatarI'm pretty sure Atrios doesn't waste time hating any of us.
fourlegsgood


I get 10-15 hate mails from him a day.


GravatarGeez, I didn't know he had died.

Just last week.

So long, Mr. Wizard!


GravatarHot & humid here in Chi, so I'm going to go out and toil in the broiling sun picking weeds on my own land, my own little patch of (weedy) soil. And then I'm going to drink some cold beer! God bless America, that's what I have to say, God bless America.
strawhat ♥'s Al too

Done that, drinking beer now! Have fun!


GravatarLet's see a list of all the other "wrongful" prosecutions that nobody gave a fuck about because the victims weren't rich white boys.

I agree with you. And some of us do care about the other wrongful prosecutions.

But wrong is wrong.

I'm hoping that the public will realize that wrongful prosecutions do happen, and stop thinking that all those uppity brown people who get charge "are probably guilty" and deserve it.


GravatarI can certainly understand that sentiment; but I would rather this serve as lesson for all prosecutors than as an example of rich white boys getting off.
Snow, Contrary


And the lesson is: if you would strike at the king, you'd better kill him.


GravatarInterestingly, my SNPA isn't in its usual twist top bottle. Since I brew beer and can use the bottles now, that's cool.

But I keep ripping the flesh from my hand trying to twist the caps off.


GravatarI'm hoping that the public will realize that wrongful prosecutions do happen, and stop thinking that all those uppity brown people who get charge "are probably guilty" and deserve it.
fourlegsgood, kittened


My home A/C just died, and I'm hoping for a cold summer. As the military says: hope is not a plan.


GravatarI'm hoping that the public will realize that wrongful prosecutions do happen, and stop thinking that all those uppity brown people who get charge "are probably guilty" and deserve it.

Well...


GravatarI'm hoping that the public will realize that wrongful prosecutions do happen, and stop thinking that all those uppity brown people who get charged "are probably guilty" and deserve it.
fourlegsgood, kittened


Good look wid dat.


GravatarI get 10-15 hate mails from him a day.

Now I feel neglected.

I believe I shall run out and weep.


GravatarI'm hoping that the public will realize that wrongful prosecutions do happen, and stop thinking that all those uppity brown people who get charge "are probably guilty" and deserve it.


When every single cop show shows the defendant as being guilty, what can you expect?


GravatarI'm hoping that the public will realize that wrongful prosecutions do happen, and stop thinking that all those uppity brown people who get charge "are probably guilty" and deserve it.

Not only that, but ugly people are perceived to be guilty more often than good looking defendants.


GravatarI'm too insignificant to earn Atrios' hatred.

But I have a dream!

~


Gravatarand I'm hoping for a cold summer

You are in the wrong part of the country for that hope, sir.


GravatarAtrios hates all of you, but loves me more than life itself.


GravatarI am a bit player so frequently things rush by that I do not understand here. But this place has been changing over the last few months. You can feel it. Tena may one of many different symptoms of that change. To tell the truth, I think many of the readers are maturing and building new expectations. In that process is a frustration that builds and makes people contentious and more than a little depressed. Basically this community is undergoing an adjustment. A healthy thing in some ways.


GravatarOh, you are definitely not of the Body!
dave™©


Landru kicked me out for being a contrarian. :-(


GravatarHate ME, Holy Father! ME ME ME!!!


GravatarIf those had been basketball players and the girls were white dancers...the guys would be in prison.

Unless they were real good players.

It's not so much about the color of your skin as it is your financial clout. Right OJ?


GravatarSounds like your bucking for the Lead Wife position.
dave


heh. After 36 years I'd better be the lead fucking wife.

diane, floors were fixed in just a few hours. They laid the boards too tight so when the weather changed they expanded and buckled. Fortunately, the wood wasn't ruined so everything came out fine.


GravatarLandru kicked me out for being a contrarian.

Episcopal, right?

Satan's lackeys...


GravatarIn that process is a frustration that builds and makes people contentious and more than a little depressed. Basically this community is undergoing an adjustment. A healthy thing in some ways.



We can only hope that it is wider than just at a blog.


GravatarBut it sure doesn't mean "the system worked." 'Cause had it been a black fraternity, and a white girl as victim, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Sure we would. Just not until after the executions.


GravatarLook, I honestly don't understand how anyone can not *get* that the violent threats and comments that WGG has made here on several occasions could potentially be big trouble for Atrios.

Making a threat against the president is a crime. Punishable by imprisonment.

Intent matters, too.


GravatarAfter 36 years I'd better be the lead fucking wife.

Hate to tell you, but Holy Father has contenders that are half as old as your marriage.


Gravatar"Do you think they will let me live in Montana?"


GravatarLook, I honestly don't understand how anyone can not *get* that the violent threats and comments that WGG has made here on several occasions could potentially be big trouble for Atrios.

It's the Cult of Woody.


GravatarMaking a threat against the president is a crime. Punishable by imprisonment.

Intent matters, too.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

I barely survived voting against the motherfucker.


GravatarI guess hope does not spring eternal here.


Gravatar"Do you think they will let me live in Montana?"

You're gonna need an RV and two wives...


GravatarI guess hope does not spring eternal here.

No, but NTodd sproings eternal...


GravatarIt's the Cult of Woody.

Finally - a cult I can get behind!

I'll just wax down my surfboard and we'll be off...


GravatarBasically this community is undergoing an adjustment. A healthy thing in some ways.


Yes.


GravatarBut it sure doesn't mean "the system worked." 'Cause had it been a black fraternity, and a white girl as victim, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Stone, hard, truth.


GravatarBasically this community is undergoing an adjustment.

As long as it cures my lower back pain, I'll be happy...


GravatarNow I feel neglected.

I believe I shall run out and weep.
fourlegsgood, kittened


But you have two kittens, one with the Tail that Ate Chicago. Don't be sad.
.


GravatarBasically this community is undergoing an adjustment. A healthy thing in some ways.
EkCenTriK


I think the difference is that we're beginning to win a few and don't need to be a monolith against this regime anymore. That was the glue. Now the normal differences amongst us will start coming out.

Look, I love Steve Simels, but he hates Hillary with a passion and I like her. These contentious issues will become more pronounced. It will be interesting to see how we handle it and if we remain a community.


Gravatarviolent threats and comments that WGG has made here on several occasions could potentially be big trouble for Atrios.

Making a threat against the president is a crime. Punishable by imprisonment.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


if President Bill Clinton plans to visit military bases in North Carolina, he had ''better have a bodyguard.''


GravatarYou're gonna need an RV and two wives...

A "recreational vehicle".

Sam Neill put the rabbit ears in there with his voice.


GravatarI think the Cult of Jack Lord is working on a remake.

Hawaii 5-0 point 1.


GravatarDialogue just heard on "Where the Boys Are":

"I've never done this kind of thing before."

Maybe I was wrong... maybe it's "Where the Boys Aren't"...


Gravatar"Next time, Jack, write a memo"


GravatarI wish we were a monolith again. I come here for instruction, dammit.


Gravatarif President Bill Clinton plans to visit military bases in North Carolina, he had ''better have a bodyguard.''

As always, IOKIYAR.


Gravatar"I think the larger point Tena is making is that many people come to the blogs for the commenters as much as anything and we thus should be thinking twice before we make someone like Atrios rich and famous and powerful."

Now that's a real hoot!


GravatarHeard some snob from San Fran this morning on NPR talking about how the internets was gonna destroy our society.


GravatarFresh Pack pics.


GravatarI love Steve Simels, but he hates Hillary with a passion and I like her.

Just don't mention ABBA!


GravatarBut you have two kittens, one with the Tail that Ate Chicago. Don't be sad.

True, dat.

I feel better already.


GravatarNow I feel neglected.

I believe I shall run out and weep.
fourlegsgood, kittened


See, this is why you fucking Democrats always lose.

Grow a set, for fuck's sake, and do whatever it takes to make Atrios hate you.

Peeing on his rooftop grill worked for me.


GravatarAre you guys gonna have auditions for Tena's place amongst the kewl kidz?


GravatarI'm grateful for any part I can play in raising our Atrios to the heights of fame, fortune and power...


GravatarA "recreational vehicle".

Sam Neill put the rabbit ears in there with his voice.


I fucking loved how he said that, and the "two wives" part. His accent was great. Connery's...?


Gravatarif President Bill Clinton plans to visit military bases in North Carolina, he had ''better have a bodyguard.''

As always, IOKIYAR.


Exactly.

Though that doesn't change the fact that it's not cool to make threats against public figures in someone else's house.


GravatarTrue, dat.

I feel better already.
fourlegsgood, kittened


I just hope that Arthur never thinks to compare his tail with that of Maddie. Little old rat tail just isn't -there-.


GravatarAre you guys gonna have auditions for Tena's place amongst the kewl kidz?

If you have to ask, you're not being considered.

Feel free to leave your resume at the front desk. THANG kyew...


Gravatar"I've never done this kind of thing before."

There is a profession, where those with the least experience, get paid the most.


GravatarI just hope that Arthur never thinks to compare his tail with that of Maddie. Little old rat tail just isn't -there-.

I'm just hoping poor Ripley doesn't develop tail envy.

Poor little bugger.


GravatarThis blog always goes strange between elections.

well, strangER.


GravatarThough that doesn't change the fact that it's not cool to make threats against public figures in someone else's house.
fourlegsgood, kittened

I think more important than the legality is the fact some fucktard like Joke Line can use it to discredit Atrios. We'd hate to have Joke's fan get the wrong idea about this place.


GravatarAre you guys gonna have auditions for Tena's place amongst the kewl kidz?

Yes. Please post a YouTube video of you getting baked. And send some pot to me.


GravatarLook, I love Steve Simels, but he hates Hillary with a passion and I like her.

How could you not love Steve? The difference is that Steve won't hate on you because you are on opposite ends of the spectrum wrt to Hillary.

In the case with WGG, I can completely understand Atrios' decision.

I've been suggesting that we elevate the discourse for months. And I've been chastized for those comments. I've even received a few e-mails from people telling me to shut the fuck up - that I'm wrong. But I'm still here, and I still think we're a better community if we don't add the element of violence and hate in the comments section. That's just my two cents worth.

I'm not talking about the bawdy discussions, either - they're fun and almost Shakespearean at times. I'm talking about "I want the mother fucker DEAD" type discussions.


Gravatarit's not cool to make threats against public figures in someone else's house.

Funny how I've never noticed any mention of this "kerfuffle" at any of Mr. Guitar's three blogs.

You know, if you've got something to say...


GravatarAre you guys gonna have auditions for Tena's place amongst the kewl kidz?
lipreader


Not me. I don't look good in a thong.


GravatarI was asking for you, dave™©. I'm from Ohio and am therefore ineligible.


Gravatar"Look, I love Steve Simels, but he hates Hillary with a passion and I like her. These contentious issues will become more pronounced. It will be interesting to see how we handle it and if we remain a community."

I have the same situation with a co-worker. As I told her, at least we are now in that position.


GravatarI've been suggesting that we elevate the discourse for months. And I've been chastized for those comments. I've even received a few e-mails from people telling me to shut the fuck up.

And you never replied. That hurt!



GravatarI'm grateful for any part I can play in raising our Atrios to the heights of fame, fortune and power...


Do we all not share in his ascension to the front of the pack? If we did not frequent his blog, his ads would not be as lucrative, and his reputation would likely be diminished. His voice is recognized because of the power of the traffic here.


GravatarI was asking for you...

See the reply above your post.


GravatarI'm grateful for any part I can play in raising our Atrios to the heights of fame, fortune and power...
ProfWombat


I feel the same way. I love lawyers cause I generally like the way they go after an issue. Breaking it down, researching, thinking, discussing. Atrios seems to be on the right track most of the time in much the same way. I don't agree with him all the time, but he's young yet, he'll come around.


GravatarFunny how I've never noticed any mention of this "kerfuffle" at any of Mr. Guitar's three blogs.

Smart, ain't he?


GravatarIronically, Frankie GTH's "Two Tribes" just popped up on the iTunes.


GravatarFunny how I've never noticed any mention of this "kerfuffle" at any of Mr. Guitar's three blogs.

Odd, that.


GravatarI'm grateful for any part I can play in raising our Atrios to the heights of fame, fortune and power...
ProfWombat


Achieved in his rented apartment in Philly.... I'm afraid that there may be a slight misunderstanding of the nature of fame, fortune and power that accrues to an independent blogger, even one nominally on Soros' payroll. I'm afraid there may be a slight misunderstanding of the power relationships between a fairly well-known blogger and um, actually powerful people.

However.

ProfWombat! I found out about two swell NEH grant possibilities today - looking forward to filing for them, weirdly enough.


GravatarI think more important than the legality is the fact some fucktard like Joke Line can use it to discredit Atrios. We'd hate to have Joke's fan get the wrong idea about this place.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore | 06.16.07 - 5:40 pm | #


Joke Line has fans? Or a fan, even?

Endtimes, for sure.

~


Gravatar
That's why I really wonder about the A list bloggers HATE you comment. That comes from out of nowhere in my estimation.


Well, I think I kind of, sort of, almost, maybe understand what she was attempting.

From what I gather, Jesus General layed into a blogger who made the mistake of quoting a racist attack on Steve Gilliard without comment. The General assumed that the blogger was a wingnut, whereas the reality was that she was actually a lefty who posted the quote assuming that her regular readers would understand that she really thought it was objectionable. Trouble was, the General didn't know her from Adam. I guess a lot of the General's readers went onto her blog and posted really nasty comments. She ultimately quit.

Thus, an A-List blogger's "cult" destroyed a less well known blogger, at least in tena's mind.

I think the "A-list bloggers hate you" comment was meant to discourage people from joining a blogger's "cult". That said, given that she doesn't put her "message" into any real context (without the links provided by people here, I wouldn't have known about the Jesus General hubub described above), it's hard to know what the hell she really means.


GravatarFunny how I've never noticed any mention of this "kerfuffle" at any of Mr. Guitar's three blogs.


I like WGG, too, but I noticed that his posts at his blogs are much gentler in nature than his comments here.

No DSH shit at the new digs for him.


GravatarVote Green
Not Hillary
The outsourcing queen and the H-1B whore
and Bush enabler


GravatarI just wish Atrios would take my suggestion to hire lap dancers...


GravatarIronically, Frankie GTH's "Two Tribes" just popped up on the iTunes.
lipreader


Omigod - who hacked your iTunes and put that shit in it?




GravatarI'm grateful for any part I can play in raising our Atrios to the heights of fame, fortune and power...
ProfWombat


I am grateful for this site because it hs more nuts and insane people than a DSM-IV fruitcake.


GravatarOh lookie, FY's back!!!

Hey bud, how ya doin'? Knockin' on a lot of doors and getting chased off with shotguns?


Gravatar"I just wish Atrios would take my suggestion to hire lap dancers...
NTodd"

Great, I am going to have change my glasses.


GravatarNo DSH shit at the new digs for him.

People will piss in their neighbors' pool who would never dream of doing the same thing at home...


Gravatar"I think the larger point Tena is making is that many people come to the blogs for the commenters as much as anything and we thus should be thinking twice before we make someone like Atrios rich and famous and powerful."

I get a percentage of the profits.


GravatarRichard | 06.16.07 - 5:44 pm | #


Thanks for that. I was really quite lost on the whole thing. A bit better now.


GravatarI just wish Atrios would take my suggestion to hire lap dancers...

Yeah, but Joe and "The Mav" have been hangin' round the grill, so I'd live in fear of who might show up workin' the pole.


GravatarI'm just hoping poor Ripley doesn't develop tail envy.

Poor little bugger.
fourlegsgood, kittened


You may need to get her a Kitten!


GravatarI get a percentage of the profits.

Not only are you of the Body - baby, you ARE the Body!


GravatarVote Green
Not Hillary
The outsourcing queen and the H-1B whore
and leading Bush enabler


Gravatar
Not only are you of the Body - baby, you ARE the Body!


Why do you think he agreed to the deal?


GravatarNot only are you of the Body - baby, you ARE the Body!

If she only worked the pole, I'd come here more often.


GravatarI noticed that some of the comments on Tena's blog, too, were from people who felt that oftentimes, they'd comment here, and that they were ignored.

Some people don't like being ignored, I guess.

Hell, it's part of the blog game. Most posts many people make don't get responses. There have been times when I've posted and not had one response from anyone. It is what it is - I feel badly for the people who think that blog responses = ego strokes.


GravatarI like WGG, too, but I noticed that his posts at his blogs are much gentler in nature than his comments here.

No DSH shit at the new digs for him.


Maybe he feels a little bit more vulnerable when posing from his own house.


GravatarI just wish Atrios would take my suggestion to hire lap dancers...
NTodd


I told him not to unless he could get Chicago Dyke.

(Damn, I miss flirting with her.)


GravatarMost interesting this talk about WGG and Tena. Been observing many a comment over the last couple of years by quite a number of handles and I'm not the least bit surprised. Sad fact is, over the last few years, this blog has become quite clannish. Seems that things started to drift to the darkside after the 2004 elections; my opinion of course. I still enjoy reading comment and adding my 2 cents worth every now and again, but the friendly atmosphere has long since evaporated. It's almost like walking into a bar full of repugs ready to pick a fight.


GravatarOmigod - who hacked your iTunes and put that shit in it?

jac, I think it was last night that we were discussing what you do to your iPod when drunk. I believe "You Light Up My Life" was cited. Not by me.


GravatarI get a percentage of the profits.
watertiger


Oddly, I seem to pay out quite a lot....
.


GravatarGWPDA: that is good news; looking forward to writing grant proposals is to say the least atypical. What are the subjects?

Josie wants to show Arthur the dirtiest places in Andover...


GravatarI think it was last night that we were discussing what you do to your iPod when drunk. I believe "You Light Up My Life" was cited. Not by me.
lipreader, who ♥ Al Gore




GravatarI just wish Atrios would take my suggestion to hire lap dancers...
NTodd, Frootie Oatie Bar | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 5:44 pm | #



Draco will bleed onto your lap.


GravatarSince we're talking about Tena, I wonder if she will ever comment here again after what she has said on her blog.

I think I remember when she sub'ed for Atrios when he was on vacation.


GravatarQuiltLady,

I said a LONG time ago now that the Republicans WANT to run against either Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. . .

(That's one of my points of hopelessness, btw)


GravatarI think I owe Dave [copyright thingie] a drink.


Gravatarover the last few years, this blog has become quite clannish.



I'm Conner McCloud of the Clan McCloud!


GravatarDamn you to hell spinoza, just damn.


GravatarI noticed that some of the comments on Tena's blog, too, were from people who felt that oftentimes, they'd comment here, and that they were ignored.

That's so fucking silly. When you've got hundreds of people online and people are in a discussion, they're not always going to respond to what you say. What, are they goddamned children who have to tug on an adult's sleeve and scream "CUSE ME, MISSER!"?


GravatarThat was a lovely thunderstorm.


Gravatari think you're confusing "clannishness" with "familiarity".


GravatarI think I owe Dave [copyright thingie] a drink.

I'll take your word for it!

Send that Vicki gal over with it, will ya?


GravatarI forgot to add, I'm only happy when it rains.


GravatarI wonder if she will ever comment here again after what she has said on her blog.


I think she's going through some sort of an epiphany, and it may be that she is moving away from blog commenting. I don't know, though.


GravatarFrom what I gather, Jesus General layed into a blogger who made the mistake of quoting a racist attack on Steve Gilliard without comment.

That is quite an assumption. And not necessarily accurate.


GravatarVicki, sometimes a throwaway comment becomes the topic du jour, other times I could dress up in a skimpy french maid's costume and still be totally ignored. Who the fuck knows.

BTW - Why isn't mena around. She seems to have disappeared around the same time.


GravatarI have a feeling he isn't going to be too long in following her:


http://www.comcast.net/news/ inde...cvqh=itn_graham


GravatarThat was a lovely thunderstorm.
HoneyBearKelly

Lucky you!


GravatarYou may need to get her a Kitten!

Yikes.

My place isn't big enough for another kitty.


GravatarSad fact is, over the last few years, this blog has become quite clannish.

Yes, because it's so easy to enforce clan rules on a fucking blog.

Cue the "groupthink" bullshit in 3...2...1...


Gravatar...other times I could dress up in a skimpy french maid's costume and still be totally ignored.

Not by me!


GravatarI get a percentage of the profits.
watertiger

Oddly, I seem to pay out quite a lot....
.
GWPDA, Roving Historian

My one thing I envy rich people for. At one time I was pretty flush. I used to help out my friends: I paid for my sister in law to go back to school, gave her a car, paid for the insurance - that sort of thing. It felt wonderful. (Did not tell anyone, it just FELT good)

In the last few years I have not had the means to be generous and that deprives me of something I truly enjoy. Maybe if Oprah likes the book she has in her possession (according to my publisher) then . . . That would be truly nice again.


Gravatar"He's going shallow"

"What does that mean"

"It means this guy is a pretty cool customer, this Russian"


GravatarCue the "groupthink" bullshit in 3...2...1...

GROUPTHINK!

LANDRU!!!


GravatarI could dress up in a skimpy french maid's costume and still be totally ignored.
ql in was in ny


I find this hard to believe.

We should test this hypothesis.


GravatarI have to runn off to dinner, but here is the stupid part of all of this.

I expect sometime in the future, that the smart people here that I respect highly will come to a conclusion, put their differences aside and put things back together.

But heck, I am not putting any pressure on y'all...


Gravatar
Cue the "groupthink" bullshit in 3...2...1...


My life for you!


GravatarIt's almost like walking into a bar full of repugs ready to pick a fight.

Maybe you should walk in not being ready to pick a fight.


GravatarJosie wants to show Arthur the dirtiest places in Andover...
ProfWombat


Did I mention that Himself managed to take out a sparrow and leave it for me in the pea patch? It was awfully thoughtful.... I think he was trying to show me what a good provider he is. Josie should know this.

Digital archiving for the humanities - can't get much more focussed than that, given my activities for the last 12 years. I find that my willingness to file for grants is inverse to my need to have them - and thus, these should be great fun!


Gravatari think you're confusing "clannishness" with "familiarity"

Perhaps. Most people here are east coast and city/state boundaries are quite imaginary compared to the west coast.


GravatarQuiltlady, Mena was having big computer problems the last I heard from her. (I had been sending her a song a day - her computer has screwed up to the point where she asked me to stop till it got fixed. Have not heard from her. . . .)


GravatarWhy isn't mena around.

She's been around. Maybe even on this thread.


GravatarGWPDA: yeah, if ever there was a gimme, that's it; good on you...


GravatarDamn you to hell spinoza, just damn.

See? Civility here has gone to hell. mer used to be a quiet wall flower who posted Rod McKuen lyrics and suggestions from Heloise. And now she is a bat out of hell seeking vengence for having to live in a state that has more trailer parks than bars.


GravatarPiss on ipods. Let's get back to real meat. The immigration bill, for one. A very bad idea, Immigration, even illegal immigration, is the Progressive's Achilles heel. Just look at the illogical mindless rot published on the editorial page of the NYT for starters. No logic, just demonizing anyone who disagrees. Isn't this what we despise about the rRpublicans? Read Bob Herbert's column in the NYT today for example. Teen employment has "disappeared" in this country, esp for minority kids, who need the jobs the most. Why? Illegals,in part, who will work for next to nothing, and who are easy to exploit. Don't we owe our black citizens more than this? Think about it, for Christ's sake.


Gravatar"Maybe you should walk in not being ready to pick a fight."

Not picking, Snow...just observing. That's what I do for a living.


GravatarPerhaps. Most people here are east coast and city/state boundaries are quite imaginary compared to the west coast.


I think you don't know what you're talking about.


Gravatari think you're confusing "clannishness" with "familiarity".

My hands get all clammy when I get familiar with you.


GravatarBTW - Why isn't mena around. She seems to have disappeared around the same time.

Most likely because of the Woody thing as well. She told me I was "being junior high" because she assumed I held some deep secret as to why he was banned and that I observed he could afford to tone down the violent rhetoric.

Pretty much everybody in the Cult of Woody got very defensive when it was suggested he could change a little and maybe learn his lesson after a few bannings over the years. Lots of Appeals to Authority (bringing up his service, his "wisdom", how they roomed at EschaCon, etc) and evading the main point. Then the accusations of...clannishness, cliqueishness, cultishness, etc, soon followed.

Quite interesting. But I'm sure if I get banned people will act EXACTLY with the same sense of misplaced loyalty, what with my ability to control all my toadies.


GravatarBut heck, I am not putting any pressure on y'all...
EkCenTriK


I'm betting after the primaries we're all pull together for whoever the nominee turns out to be. I certainly hope it is Gore, but if not Gore then Hillary.


GravatarI love mena. Absolutely love her. She's hilarious, witty, cool as a cucumber, and absolutely radiant in person.

She knows when to bite her tongue, and does it in a classy, gentle way.


GravatarThus, an A-List blogger's "cult" destroyed a less well known blogger, at least in tena's mind.

When I applied for a $300 roommate situation in the less desirable Hassidic-fresh-off-the-boat part of Brooklyn, I was told I was on the 'A' list of applicants...

...because I wasn't a blonde cheerleader from Iowa.

But, alas, I did not get it.


Gravatarlater, 'bats. Company is here and I must go be a host. Ya'll stop by for supper in about an hour or so . . . .


GravatarI like Tena, I like Woody, I like all of you.

But it's not my blog.


GravatarI don't think that many people who comment here live in big east coast cities.

But I'm probably wrong.


GravatarWill a us coup d'état happen in your lifetime. it already has in not an answer. yes or no?


GravatarI expect sometime in the future, that the smart people here that I respect highly will come to a conclusion, put their differences aside and put things back together.

I have no gripe with anyone. My point early on in this melodrama was that Atrios tried to lay down some ground rules, you know, the kind that would prevent him from getting thrown into jail under 18 U.S.C. 1001, and a couple of people interpreted that as "you're stampin' on my freedom of speech, man!"

Freedom of speech isn't an open-ended privilege, btw. Not to get all legalistic.


GravatarAnyway, this is Atrios's problem, not mine. As time passes, so do people's passions.


GravatarThink about it, for Christ's sake.
robthehearthtrob


I have.

You suck.


GravatarInside-the-park-home-run owls...


GravatarThus, an A-List blogger's "cult" destroyed a less well known blogger, at least in tena's mind.

She and Litz are welcome to join Reality any time.


GravatarI don't think that many people who comment here live in big east coast cities.


I'm pretty sure we have a very nice cross section of the country represented here.


GravatarGWPDA: yeah, if ever there was a gimme, that's it; good on you...
ProfWombat


Nooooooooooooooooooooooo! Breadandbutter, breadandbutter, breadandbutter!!!!! Jinxing, that's mean!

Oh, well.

I should go out and plant the salvia and the plumbago but it's 106 and somehow I just don't feel like it.
.


GravatarThanks Diane

Very useful comment. Are you a Republican troll?


GravatarVery useful comment. Are you a Republican troll?

...said the guy no one has ever heard from before to someone that's here every day.


GravatarPerhaps. Most people here are east coast and city/state boundaries are quite imaginary compared to the west coast.

No, that's not what I meant.

Many of us, from across the country, have actually met and become friends in meatspace.

There is a certain relaxation of dialogue that comes along with that.


GravatarI said this the other evening, but I'll say it again:

The thing that miffs me about the newfound pleas for civility come after vitriolic attacks on the A List Bloggers.

I've had heated discussions with Tena about the lack of civility - specifically with regard to rhetoric that oozes with hatred and anger, and she basically told me that it's not democratic to harness free speech, and to go fuck myself. I won't go into the darker details, but they're pretty mean and ugly.

So I'm feeling a bit of a disconnect between the prior discusssions I've had with her and her recent pleas for civility.

And I fully expect someone out there to sign on anonymously and say that I'm being a nasty, mean bitch for bringing this up, but I reiterate what Gomez said yesterday: Her new message is right, but she's the wrong messenger.


Gravatar...a-man is right, we've all seen extrajudicial effort to make examples out of liberals over free speech, whilst a republican making such statements would be ignored by authorities...


GravatarBut I'm sure if I get banned people will act EXACTLY with the same sense of misplaced loyalty, what with my ability to control all my toadies.

Don't worry, wanker. I would immediately correct such person.


GravatarI think mena has been here since Tena left, as has Flory (a good friend of Tena's, I think).

Anyway, I enjoy reading what Atrios says and the comments on this blog, so that's where I stand, or sit.


GravatarHey Dave
I'm an old-timer on Atrios! Just been away for a few months. And did you think Diane's comment contributed in any meaningful way to the topic?
Remember: being anti-immigration is NOT the same as being anti-immigrant. I think the country should limit immigration to the number of people who leave every year--about 200,000, and I don't care what color, creed or national origin they are. So no stigmatizing, please.


Gravatarcity/state boundaries are quite imaginary compared to the west coast.

Eh?


Gravatar...atrios has a world cross-section here, at least a western vision of one.


GravatarI'm from Oregon.


GravatarHello,

I own Vietnamese noodle restaurant called "Pho King"

Could I co-brand and become called "Pho King Tastee Freeze"?

Thank you,

Hung Nguye^~n


GravatarI think the country should limit immigration to the number of people who leave every year--about 200,000, and I don't care what color, creed or national origin they are. robthehearthtrob



Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!


GravatarA cut from the most excellent Showdown album with Albert Collins, Robert Cray, and Johnny Copeland.

The video is boring as all hell, but the tune is awesome.


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