I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Cynthia wouldn't let a capitol polizista stop her.
Thanks, Avedon!
peace
No Comments? Really?
See, I knew it was bullshit.
Haloscum lying, there are comments, too.
Morning, rational people.
She is a virulent anti-semite for one.
She blamed her loss on the "J-E-W-S".
Diane posting on how the worst administration ever has damaged us, from a Middle Eastern journalist at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Actually, it was her father who stated that it was "the JEWS" who did her in.
Moe?
She slapped a Capital Policeman, didn't she?
No.
But, good morning.
No Moe?
Looks like Jeevan has more work to do.
Good Morning, Moe. Well, due to boredom and a crappy TV schedule, I finally know what NCIS stands
for.
The trillions of dollars gone to support Bush's foreign adventures could and should have been spent on the welfare of his people.
[The GOP]
"Fuck that! Rich people gotta eat!"
[/The GOP]
Heh, the folks next door ran their fireworks program a little late for their neighbors' comfort. At precisely 12:01, the L.A. Sheriffs dropped by and confiscated what was left of what must have been quite a cache and sent everybody home.
I finally got to sleep about 12:30.
Is Jesse still dead?
My neighbors' fireworks got damp, I guess. We had drizzle most of the p.m. - luckily they didn't go shoot off guns to make up for it.
Yes, thankfully Helms is no longer with us.
I'm enjoying all the obits that mention Jesse was a major influence on the conservative movement.
Poor Trent Lott: his BFF is gone.
Didn't take long for this. When you control the media, you shape public opinion.
PENSACOLA, Fla. - Oil companies once viewed drilling in the deep waters off Florida as cost prohibitive. Politicians feared even the slightest sign of support would be career suicide.
The early activity here stems from a 2006 Congressional compromise that allows drilling on 8.3 million acres more than 125 miles off the Panhandle — an area that had been covered by the moratorium, which was enacted out of environmental concerns. In exchange, the state got a no-drilling buffer along the rest of its beaches.
With gas topping $4 a gallon, recent polls show Americans, Floridians included, more supportive of drilling in protected areas. Some politicians — including Gov. Charlie Crist — have switched sides.
"We think the public is way out ahead of the politicians on these issues. People are more open to (offshore drilling) now," said Tom Moskitis, spokesman for the American Gas Association, a trade group.
Is Jesse still dead?
Probably sharing a pit of boiling mud right this minute with Ted Bundy. "No, really, it WAS the comics that made me do it! Spiderman #83--that one totally fucked me up!"
I thought it was unfair that African American newsreader Tamron Hall had to spend so much time saying nice things about Jesse Helms yesterday morning.
Yes, thankfully Helms is no longer with us.
plantsman
Just his legacy.
"We think the dumb fucking wingnuts who want to drill their way out of this mess are way out ahead of the politicians on these issues. These idiots are more open to (offshore drilling) now, and we love them for it," said Tom Moskitis, a bought and paid whore for the American Gas Association, a trade group.
Lotta typo fixin' there.
As a born Tarheel, I have a special and abiding hatred for Helms.
Just his legacy.
Gimlet
Might take 100 years, but that legacy will be buried one day along with Jessie's soon-to-be-rotting ass.
Bob Herbert: Cause For Alarm.
Helms' former advisor on McCain team. http://www.mgwashington.com/inde...ged-1990-/1245/
No surprises there.
Poor Jesse didn't live to see Obama sworn in...I bet he would have brought a big old bowl of ambrosia to the after party...
Oh, here's the link to Herbert:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/0....html?th&
emc=th
Heh, the folks next door ran their fireworks program a little late for their neighbors' comfort. At precisely 12:01, the L.A. Sheriffs dropped by and confiscated what was left of what must have been quite a cache and sent everybody home.
I finally got to sleep about 12:30.
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 7:24 am | #
We had people setting off illegal and legal fireworks until 2 am. I've keep telling myself it's highly likely that by next 4th I'll be in a better neighborhood where this crap doesn't happen.
Poor Jesse didn't live to see Obama sworn in...I bet he would have brought a big old bowl of ambrosia to the after party...
singe
True, but at least he lived long enough to see how the GOP had fucked the country and fucked up their own party. Probably had a thought or two about how it was a niggra was gonna have a shot at being elected president.
Of course, the old racist fuck would have believed this was another sign that the country was going to hell, and he couldn't wait to be held in the arms of Jesus.
Sorry, Jessie . . . fucking wrong again!
The outgrowth of a popular wingnut talking point that's been trying to wriggle into the public consciousness for several months now.
Why are blacks voting Democratic when Republicans spearheaded the civil rights movement? Democrats controlled all of the Old South.
My response was to look beyond party lines at Conservatives vs. Liberals.
Anyway, Sinfonian is on it.
http://
flprogressive.blogspot.co...republican.html
A group called the National Black Republican Association (motto: "Proudly defining 'self-loathing' since 2005") is putting up billboards around Florida declaring that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., was a Republican.
Wealthy *nice* folks like to prove how tacky they are on the 4th, too.
A group called the National Black Republican Association (motto: "Proudly defining 'self-loathing' since 2005") is putting up billboards around Florida declaring that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., was a Republican.
"He loved white women, and that made him the Clarance Thomas of his time!"
[/NBRA]
MLK is a 'publican as he is a commie, which he was accused of too.
A man raced into Berlin's Madame Tussauds wax museum Saturday and ripped the head off a waxwork of Adolf Hitler, police said.
Police said the 41-year-old entered the exhibit shortly after the museum doors opened and "made for the Hitler figure," scuffling with a guard assigned to protect it and the manager before tearing the head off the life-size statue.
The man was arrested and is now in custody, Berlin police spokeswoman Uwe Kozelnik said. Under questioning, the man explained he wanted to protest the figure being included in the museum.
Saturday was the opening day of the Berlin branch of the famous Madame Tussauds wax museum.
The presence of the waxwork, which depicted the Nazi dictator sitting at his desk in his bunker during his last days, in the new museum led to criticism in German media over recent weeks. But the museum's defenders argued Hitler's role in German history must not be ignored.
Hitler was shown with a sullen expression, his head slightly down, and one hand on the desk.
Sort of like how Bush is gonna be about 1 Jan of 2009. Just put a bottle of Jack on the desk an it'll be picture perfect.
Iraq war dodger will be heard
TORONTO — Canada’s refugee board has been ordered to take another look at an American deserter’s failed bid for asylum in an unprecedented court ruling that could affect scores of other U.S. soldiers who have refused to fight in Iraq.
In Friday’s decision, which came as Americans celebrated Independence Day, the Federal Court found the Immigration and Refugee Board made mistakes in turning down Joshua Key’s claim for asylum.
"It’s quite a statement," Key, 30, told The Canadian Press from his home in Saskatchewan. "It makes us feel good — probably everybody within this whole process."
A married father of four, Key served as a combat engineer for eight months in Iraq in 2003. He said American soldiers committed savage acts against civilians and routinely killed innocent people.
While the board deemed him credible, it nixed his claim for refugee status on the grounds he was not required to systematically commit war crimes even if he had to violate the Geneva Conventions.
Federal Court Justice Robert Barnes disagreed with that analysis. "Officially condoned military misconduct falling well short of a war crime may support a claim to refugee protection," Barnes wrote.
Military action that "systematically degrades, abuses or humiliates" either combatants or non-combatants could provide such support, he said.
Key, a native of Oklahoma, fled to Canada after deserting during a leave in November 2003. In turning down several similar asylum claims, the refugee board has consistently held that the United States is a democracy, which affords deserters due judicial process.
However, the court said the board should hear evidence on whether deserters can rely on the American government to treat them fairly. "State protection has been a very prominent issue that we have felt has just simply not been given the kind of attention it requires," Zaslofsky said.
"It doesn’t appear feasible for people like Joshua Key and the other war resisters to rely on state protection that people would normally be able to rely on — even in a democracy like the United States."
Key’s lawyer, Jeffry House, said the ruling expands a soldier’s right to refuse military service.
In his old age, Thurmond voted for a federal holiday honoring Martin Luther King Jr.; Helms voted against. Defending his vote, Helms explains, "I have never stated and do not believe that Dr. King was a Communist" but then argues for guilt by association because some of King's advisers were former communists.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...5090801620.html
Crooks and Liars has a clip of Alan Combes actually giving KKKarl Rove a moderately hard time instead of a hard on....why is this shit head Rove still on the streets among decent pilgrims? Are there no dungeons?
Also i think KKKarl may be a spawn of Jesse...the bulbous head and trembling jowl are very similar...
[/NBRA]
Supreme Commander Thor
And remember, if you want to vote for David Duke and the policies he stands for; you need to pull the lever that says "Republican".
Now why would we have an independent investigation into 9/11. I mean such an investigation may reveal how incompetent our CIA/FBI/Bush administration were/are.
Or worse it might reveal that top officials were all in on it and/or allowed it to happen to give the neocons the excuse they needed to take our country into war and pass unconstitutional laws.
Americans couldn't handle this type of truth, many heads would explode upon hearing the truth.
Is this a great country or what?
Cynthia McKinney is worse than Hitler, as we will be reminded, as required, between now and November.
Honestly, that crepe-hanging Bob Herbert has to be a party-pooper, doesn't he?
Aren't we all better off than we were eight years ago? All those lucky duckies now collecting welfare? The drowned city of New Orleans? The gaping wound in south Manhattan?
What's the matter with you guys? Aren't you grateful to Justice O'Connor for sparing us that boring, brown suited loser Al Gore? I know I am.
Is Saskatchewan the Oklahoma of Canada?
Moe, that's good news. I would love to see more refusal to violate the Geneva conventions used to avoid going to Iraq, Arghanistan, and anywhere else we take captives, for that matter.
David Duke is a perfect example of the racist scum that is the republican party.
Wealthy *nice* folks like to prove how tacky they are on the 4th, too.
plantsman | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 7:39 am
True, but in our wealthy 'enclaves' like Oakwood, people don't set of the illegal neighbors. Not pissing off your neighbors is a big deal in Oakwood and their police will bust you.
In the neighborhood where I'm looking at, perhaps they'll be a few morons, but not on the scale in the neighborhood where I am now.
Is Saskatchewan the Oklahoma of Canada?
Not hardly. Saskatchewan elected the first socialist government in North America, and produced Tommy Douglas, the father of commie health care.
In 2000 and 2004 the Republicans told us W was the answer to all that ailed us, and now look where we are. Why would anyone believe they have the answers now?
Thanks for the facts, Moe -- I, myself would love commie health care.
In 2000 and 2004 the Republicans told us W was the answer to all that ailed us, and now look where we are. Why would anyone believe they have the answers now?
plantsman
Seems to me that the MSM reinforced that notion.
Curiously, the MSM seems to be having trouble selling its wares lately.
Could it be that a few in this country are beginning to figure it out that they've been made fools of for at least eight years? Might some be joining the ranks of the ochen' pissed?
At HuffPo, Condi says she's glad we invaded Iraq.
Why would anyone believe they have the answers now?
plantsman | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 7:50 am | #
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You are kidding right? Brain washed republican supporters could witness Bush shooting their own mothers right in front of their eyes and they would all deny it and blame it on Bill Clinton.
Even small-c conservative Nova Scotia is poised to elect the socialist NDP the next election, a first here. It's true the NDP has moderated itself right out of a lot of its lefty positions (see, government-owned utility), but still, it's a remarkable event all the same.
Why would anyone believe they have the answers now?
plantsman
Because they WANT to vote Republican and hope against hope that a different person than Bush will bring change to the administration even though wingnut welfare dictates that all the old cronies stay on to cover the details.
At HuffPo, Condi says she's glad we invaded Iraq.
plantsman | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 7:53 am | #
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She owns Halliburton stock???
thing is there was no reason to believe he was the answer in 00 or 04 and a lot of good reasons to believe otherwise which is what worries the shit out of me about 08...
Could it be that a few in this country are beginning to figure it out that they've been made fools of for at least eight years? Might some be joining the ranks of the ochen' pissed?
David Derbes,
That seems to be the message Tariq al-Maeena got from the Americans he interviewed for the op-ed piece I posted on here.
Condi says she's glad we invaded Iraq.
"We", of course, being everyone other than herself and her, um, "house mate".
"I'm all for the killin' as long as I'm not willin'!"
Huggy's campaign is riddled with Rovians, Bushies, and other assorted crooks.
Of course Condi is happy that we invaded Iraq. It distracted us for a few years from realizing just how f**ked up our economy was doing under Bush.
I think just reminding people of what the GOP promised and where it got us can be somewhat effective at stopping them now.
New level of discontent as 2200 Marines are told 'fooled ya, ya have to stay' in Afghanistan.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...in-afghanistan/
F**king Comcast has taken C-SPAN 2 off of basic cable and will soon be taking 6-7 more channels off of basic cable. BASTARDS!
This "disappeared" obit on Jesse Helms is pretty funny:
He died on July 4, 2008, slitting his wrists in a washtub out back beneath the pecan tree and writing "I've been a bad boy" in his own blood. The skins of several children were found drying in his attic, swarms of horseflies going in and out of the eaves. His wife was quoted on CNN as saying "I always wondered about Jesse's collection of little shoes."[14]
Comcast is a disease with fast Internet connections.
the difference between the U.S. soldier who fled to Canada and is asking for refugee status, or the man in Berlin who ripped off the head of the Adolf Hitler statue and you guys?
they are willing to DO something to protest what they believe in.
all you guys ever do is complain, complain, complain.
Who let that piece of ugliness in?
We aren't a parliament and we don't have micro-parties who are shopping for a coalition to be part of to select the head of the government.
But Obama's is a coalition of Democratic subgroups and he needs to hold them together. Nobody has to be in love, but everyone needs to stay on the bus.
But I think bringing the dissident Better Angels of Obama on board and giving them a forum is a good start. It's still over a month until the the freaking convention, then it REALLY starts.
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I think Clinton can have the vice-presidential nomination if she wants to force the fight at the convention. I can't imagine that she does want to, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bill does. It might not be the worst thing in the world.
And all you ever do is come here and troll about it.
Well Bush did say he was going to run the government like a business. In business the goal is to make maximum profits for the shareholders.
Replace lobbists, oil and energy companies and defense industries for shareholders and I'd say Bush has done a heck of a job...for them.
great stuff rox
All you ever do is complain about my complaining.
It distracted us for a few years from realizing just how f**ked up our economy was doing under Bush.
Uncle Fester Lurks
Was talking to a woman July 3rd that actively gets out the vote for Democrats. She was fatalistic about the economy and refused to blame it on Bush.
I asked why the economy was doing poorly and her responses were gas prices, massive government debt, and the subprime mortgage fiasco. She was unsympathetic with homeowners but had not considered the role of financial institutions.
I tried to expand her views on these topics, but it reinforced the role perspective and propaganda play on otherwise good people that don't have sources other than MSM for their analysis of current events.
mimi...go take a sh*t, fall thru your a$$hole and hang yourself.
I was visiting relatives in NC when Helms was running against Harvey Gantt and ran his infamous "Hands" ad -- it was truly despicable.
All those Jesse Helms entries are v special. Like Duke, he evoked Feelings indeed, every wingnut needs some one to outdo him/her in craziness.
Actually mimi we all work for the underground movement to take back our country thru revolution and each of our comments here are code for daily strategies. 
F**king Comcast has taken C-SPAN 2 off of basic cable and will soon be taking 6-7 more channels off of basic cable. BASTARDS!
Hey, it's either that or raise your rates.
...or that and raise your rates. 
“The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that’s thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic, and interfere with other men’s rights.” - Jesse Helms on civil rights protests.
Weird how the AP left that one off their list of Helms quotes.
Gimlet, how anyone can avoid seeing the cretin in chief's hand in deregulation, that has unleashed the financial community to ruin itself and everyone investing with itself, is just drinking the KoolAid.
This "disappeared" obit on Jesse Helms is pretty funny:
That's really funny. In a disturbing sort of way.
Moe>>> strawberries.
Weird how the AP left that one off their list of Helms quotes.
You sure he wasn't just talking about Critical Mass?
Weird how the AP left that one off their list of Helms quotes.
Roxanne
He was a defining voice of the Conservative Movement--but the AP doesn't want to show just HOW defining. Lands sake!
Ruth >>>>>> breakfast.
Too bad he didn't live long enough to see an African-American live in the White House.
Anyone making less than seven figures per annum who votes for the GOP qualifies for the Darwin Award.
I was visiting relatives in NC when Helms was running against Harvey Gantt and ran his infamous "Hands" ad -- it was truly despicable.
plantsman
Not just campaign ads.
http://www.brennancenter.org/con...f_voter_caging/
In 1990, the Republican Party of North Carolina and Senator Jesse Helms re-election campaign committee mailed postcards to 125,000 voters; 81,000 cards were mailed to registered Democrats in precincts that were 94% African-American, and 44,000 cards were mailed to African-American voters exclusively.[27]
Undelivered cards were then used to create a list of voters to be challenged.[28] The U.S. Department of Justice filed suit, again ending in a consent decree. This agreement prohibited the state party from targeting voters based on their racial minority status, and required it to obtain prior court approval for its anti-fraud activities.[29]
Too bad he didn't live long enough to see an African-American live in the White House.
Roxanne
Jessie knew it was coming. Bastard probably died out of spite just so he wouldn't have to see it.
Too bad he didn't live long enough to see an African-American live in the White House.
Roxanne
I have a hunch that there will be a lot of splody heads on that day.
Too bad he didn't live long enough to see an African-American live in the White House.
Roxanne
They have Fox News in hell, so I'm not troubled by it.
Moe, I am asking myself the same question about who let the ugliness you are into my beautiful country!
Moe, I am asking myself the same question about who let the ugliness you are into my beautiful country!
mimi
Not among the current topics.
OK, I'm going to try to get a few more hours sleep.
Have a good Saturday morning, folks.
Definition of a troll: someone who will find a way to infest a website after having been banned.
Well so much for Independence. Now it's back to the war criminals and the wanna-be war criminals. Of late it seems that there is no avoiding war criminal status if you want to be leader of the U.S. Rock on.
his voice showed emotion when he talked about spreading freedom to other countries, one of his stated rationales for the war in Iraq. Quoting Jefferson as saying that the principles of the Declaration were universal, Bush said: "We honor Jefferson's legacy by aiding the rise of liberty in lands that do not know the blessings of freedom."
BULLSHIT, you fucker. you know you don't believe in Liberty and that your definition of freedom is the freedom for corporations to exploit
July 3 (Bloomberg) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she's ``proud'' of the U.S. decision to wage the Iraq war and insisted that the world is not more dangerous than it was when George W. Bush took office.
Criminally insane or willfully complicit?
Bush said: "We honor Jefferson's legacy by aiding the rise of liberty in lands that do not know the blessings of freedom."
Followed by, "And if we can't bring freedom to these ungrateful brown suckers, fuck it: might as well get rich in the process!"
Criminally insane or willfully complicit?
plantsman
"Criminally insane" implies she is not responsible for her actions.
John McCain: "I know how to fix the Climate Crisis, BURN MORE OIL!"
Dr. Susan Rice proves the whole family is not nuts.
Bush said: "We honor Jefferson's legacy by aiding the rise of liberty in lands that do not know the blessings of freedom."
Jefferson was, it should be noted, a slaveowner.
I don't have the pacentice to read back in chat (yup lazy - it's Saturday). Has anyone noted that NPR aired audio of Bush being heckled yesterday? A first - not for Bush being heckled (that's been happening for 8 years) but for the Fourth Mistake covering it? Granted NPR is not risking much; after all it's a holiday weekend and their listenership is lower than it would be on a "normal" day.
Thus the "willfully complicit" option.
Run, Jesse....errr....I mean, Rot, Jesse, Rot !
Orange Sunshine>>>coffee>>>bathroom
MSNBC covered the heckling yesterday, too.
We're supposed to give Jefferson a pass because he bedded down his slaves.
Jefferson was, it should be noted, a slaveowner.
SteveLG
"I got Condi, so that makes me sorta like Jeff, don't it?"
[/GW Shithead]
We're supposed to give Jefferson a pass because he had a fine mind as well as an evil one and wrote well.
I heard the heckling on NPR, but I don't think that was a first.
If the MSM doesn't start beating up on the GOP, they're going to find themselves taken even less seriously than they are now, if that is even possible.
he had a fine mind as well as an evil one and wrote well.
True.
Run, Jesse....errr....I mean, Rot, Jesse, Rot !
I find it odd that at least some here seem to think that wining is everything, even to the point of disparaging folks who might have similar views and beliefs as many here. To be honest, I find rhetoric like this sick and disgusting; 'scuse me, I have to go to the restroom.
The Declaration of Independence is a stirring piece of prose, even now.
He seldom goes out in public now without a flag pin stuck in his lapel. He devoted an entire speech to patriotism this week in Independence, Mo. Visually reinforcing the message, he stood in front of a quartet of large American flags.
None of this is an accident. Polling shows that on the threshold test any serious presidential candidate must pass, Obama has ground to cover.
A CNN poll released one day after the Illinois senator gave his patriotism speech showed that a quarter of registered voters surveyed questioned Obama's love of country. Nearly 30% of the respondents who described themselves as independents -- a coveted slice of the electorate -- believed he lacks patriotism, according to the survey.
this is a simple country, filled with simple folk; you win by convincing them. we more sophisticated folk get it, we don't need convincin'
Nearly 30% of the respondents who described themselves as independents -- a coveted slice of the electorate -- believed he lacks patriotism, according to the survey.
Maybe those so concerned with showing their patriotism should adopt flag armbands.
It worked so well for a political group in another country once . . . name is just on the tip of my tongue--
Granted NPR is not risking much; after all it's a holiday weekend and their listenership is lower than it would be on a "normal" day.
CityKid (Nader for Prez)
I'm sorry I missed it.
NPR gets a lot of grief around here. I understand the criticisms, but I also know their gov't funding is constantly threatened with every budget cycle. They could do better. They could do a lot worse.
some here seem to think that wining is everything
see 2000 and 2004; yeah, winning IS everything in politics. at least until you win, then governing is everything
a quarter of registered voters surveyed questioned Obama's love of country. Nearly 30% of the respondents who described themselves as independents -- a coveted slice of the electorate -- believed he lacks patriotism, according to the survey.
Perspective - a glass half empty or half full.
70 to 75% thought he was patriotic.
What if Bush's approval rating of 20-30% was described in the similar way?
Hint: It's the same 30% percent.
Dobro jutro iz Beograda!
WHEATON, Md. -- In another sign of the harsh toll being exacted by the economic downturn, the number of Americans unemployed for six months or more has risen sharply over the past year and is likely to increase even more.
The number of people unemployed for at least 26 weeks has risen to 1.6 million -- up 37% in the past year. That is almost double the percentage increase for the overall unemployed, according to a Labor Department report released Thursday. More than 18% of the unemployed have been looking for work for more than half a year, compared with about 11% at the start of the 2001 recession.
more bush-BOOM!
I think it's alot easier to stand on principle when you don't have any skin in the game.
Winning in November might mean life or death for some. But, prolly not to those who will vote for a third party candidate out of principle.
Good morning. Saw a comment somewhere wondering if Jesse is busy trying to segregate Hell right now.
Some people would rather be "pure" than win ugly.
I am not referring to running to the center. Over at orange satan, there are a host of people who are shocked shocked if somebody mentions Cindy's drug usage. It's "beneath us".
People's senses of humor vary greatly, and gallows humor has been around for a very long time -- as has sanctimony.
Them's a boatload of strawberries. Pass the bowl around amongst yourselves.
photo-op
obama biting into a hotdog; that's worth almost a million votes!
Cindy stole drugs from a charity she administered -- it should have been beneath her.
Good morning.
I think the people that are calling themselves "independent" are people who are really republicans but with shame.
The shameless ones are still calling themselves "republican".
Good mrning, people. Cool and grey here in Central OH.
I'm so glad Christopher Hitchens has declared waterboarding torture because before I, you know, wasn't quite sure.
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Actually, it was her father who stated that it was "the JEWS" who did her in.
Another of those 'inartful' comments.
Obama's handlers probably debated for weeks about what he would eat on the 4th. Every action is a potential minefield.
I am not referring to running to the center. Over at orange satan, there are a host of people who are shocked shocked if somebody mentions Cindy's drug usage. It's "beneath us".
Bullshit. It's not the drug usage, per say, that is the problem, it's how she got the pills. Harp on that as a prime example of how IOKIYAR. That and what fuckin' dead beats the McCain's are, being unable to pay the property taxes on some of their 7 homes.
Or has hard times come to their asses as well?
Someone just blew an M-80.
That hot dog has no chili on it.
Unamerican!
Someone just blew an M-80.
Is that what they're calling it now?
I gotta tell ya, a Johnsonville Brat sounds better than a hot dog these days.
Obama's handlers probably debated for weeks about what he would eat on the 4th. Every action is a potential minefield.
Lets see:
Ribs? No, too easily identified as being, you know--black.
Chicken? See #1.
Hot Dogs? Get 'em grillin'!
Now if he'd went with brats he'd have the Cheesehead Vote locked.
Over at orange satan, there are a host of people who are shocked shocked if somebody mentions Cindy's drug usage. It's "beneath us".
I deleted my bookmark for Orange Satan a month or so ago and haven't been back since.
Sounds like I made the right decision...
Someone just blew an M-80.
Jeff Gannon's back in town?
Gotta head out soon, but enjoy your holiday weekend, peeps.
At the Indian Reservation fireworks stands in Washington, you can get cool artillery shell fireworks and everything.
Cindy stole drugs from a charity she administered -- it should have been beneath her.
plantsman
race, wealth and class don't matter: a junkie is a junkie.
The wingnuts wanted that Baltimore family to sell their house instead of taking advantage of the sChip program for their injured son.
Seems like the McCains could sell one of those properties to pay taxes on the others.
what fuckin' dead beats the McCain's are, being unable to pay the property taxes on some of their 7 homes.
or what elitists they are? 7 homes, multi-millionaire anti-property-tax; yeah thems good 'ole 'murkan values
Ribs? No, too easily identified as being, you know--black.
Chicken? See #1.
Watermelon?
me too dave! NO MORE CHEETOS!
Watermelon?
Gimlet
Git the fuck outta town!
Even that KFC Chipotle Whatever Chicken (which I also can't have) sounds pretty good.
into my beautiful country!
mimi | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 8:15 am | #
And yet you abandoned it. Now it's a little more beautiful, you having been replaced with Moe.
Roxanne Cindy can pay the taxes on those properties out of petty cash.
The woman charged up a quarter of a million dollars in one month.
They are just negligent.
orange satan supports the Anti-Christ .... no thanks!
I don't have a problem with the McCains being delinquent on their taxes. They'll end up paying more to local governments than if they had paid on time. That's a good thing for the people actually living in those towns.
Not a quarter million, three quarters of a million.
simels....
It's "beneath us".
sometimes, i fear only total economic chaos and global war will convince some dems that it's actually and truly time to take the gloves off. sigh.
Obama Has My Vote. Now - Does He Want My Support?
(Inspired by Hecate.)
I think "unwilling to pay property taxes" on her beach-front condo is more like it.
race, wealth and class don't matter: a junkie is a junkie.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
Yes.
My recollection is that Cynthia McKinney pointed out the bush senior connections with the saudi royals, and the fact he was meeting with them on 9/11, and that it was perhaps too much of a coinkydynk not to deserve some scrutiny.
Among the people who were most exercised by McKinney's statements was Josh Marshall. I can't recall if that was during his gary condit phase or his sitting at the knee of ken pollack phase.
God save us from the all the liberals who are so afraid of hearing something true actually being said. I recall Dan Kennedy calling Dick Durbin an idiot for his comments that our behavior at Gitmo was reminiscent of Soviet regimes.
Of course, DD earned his nickname "cryin' Dick Durbin" when he caved in and blubbered out an apology for that utterly true statement. Nice to know we have such a steadfast man of courage in a senate leadership position.
sometimes, i fear only total economic chaos and global war will convince some dems that it's actually and truly time to take the gloves off. sigh.
chicago dyke,
er, have you read the news lately?
La Jolla's pretty nice.
Actually, between those two links, I'd click on the Hecate one first...
sometimes, i fear only total economic chaos and global war will convince some dems that it's actually and truly time to take the gloves off.
Even then, I fear a lot of the Dems are gonna be holed up guarding the fuel while the GOP Humongous keep circling the camp looking for a way in. Won't be pretty.
moe, i'm only 1/2 a cup into my coffee and no, not really. what up?
I was firmly with GWPDA on a woman's right to control her body yesterday.
race, wealth and class don't matter: a junkie is a junkie.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
It was a youthful indiscretion. I turned to religion and am now "Born Again".
no, not really. what up?
I think it was a somewhat rhetorical question.
God save us from the all the liberals who are so afraid of hearing something true actually being said.
you are a fucking retard; four paragraphs of nothing in that post...here's a truth, Limpballs gets paid 50 million dollars a year to carry the water to you mindless rubes
Actually, between those two links, I'd click on the Hecate one first...
dave™
/mad, bitter, ironic cackling/
i was just saying to someone yesterday, "pro faith based, pro increasing the military, pro fisa...it won't be long before he ditches the bitches and says no to abortion."
Citykid, shouldn't you be in a battleground state, campaigning for Ralphie or whatever third party candidate that'll tip the election to McCain ?
moe, i'm only 1/2 a cup into my coffee and no, not really. what up?
chicago dyke
Food prices up 1000 percent in some places, energy up a couple hundred percent over the last couple of years, people starving to death all over, economic refugees by the millions--- that's pretty much complete economic collapse in my book.
Wars in about two dozen countries at the moment, tens of millions of displaced people, arms are largest internationally traded good after oil--- meet global warfare.
I don't give two hoots about the Dems or the Rethugs - if the Dems can ditch the DLC, maybe I'll give them a second look (I used to be one - paid dues and everything to be in the state party). Yeah, I'll give up winning to be right this time around - and then I'll look for redress; and if other folks are smart that's what they will do. Raygun, Bush, Climton, Bush - they all fucked us over big time. So why do folks long for Clinton?? He was a dem and did at least as much damage to our country as Bush Sr.
Obama Has My Vote. Now - Does He Want My Support?
(Inspired by Hecate.)
dave™©
I think that's great.
I like that it's hosted at the Obama website, like the FISA group (I have a couple of days of digest I haven't looked at).
We're not to the convention yet... the campaign starts in earnest then.
Progressives need to make noise and organize themselves to be part of a coalition. I don't think Hillary can be their standard bearer at the convention, but I think Wes Clark could.
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So after attending our first gay wedding the other day, and spending most of the reception sitting with another gay couple who will be tying the knot at the end of the month, it occurs to me that someone should start making the argument that gay marriage is a great economic shot in the arm for the wedding planning industry. I noticed the SF Kronk ran a full-page "Wedding Resources" page in their Gay Pride Parade edition last week.
There's money in them thar hills!
that's pretty much complete economic collapse in my book.
moe, you know how deep and true my love for you is, but i have to disagree. it's going to get much, much worse. we're so spoiled in the west, you're right about that, we hardly perceive the suffering that less fortunate places are enduring thanks to our policies right now. but we're not immune, and our mistakes will catch up with us eventually, in true and full 'blowback' style.
Citykid, shouldn't you be in a battleground state, campaigning for Ralphie or whatever third party candidate that'll tip the election to McCain ?
Orange Sunshine, Double BBL
No doubt you'll be working for the lowest common denominator. Go fly a kite - you're blowing smoke, or your a fool.
GWPDA linked to an SF Gate post about exactly that, I do believe, dave.
I don't mean to imply by what I posted above that I've mistaken Wes Clark for a "progressive", by the way.
But I do think he'd bring a lot to the campaign and, arguably, to the Vice Presidency.
uh-murka in a nutshell:
gluttony contests (eating) covered as sport on ESPN
but we're not immune, and our mistakes will catch up with us eventually, in true and full 'blowback' style.
chicago dyke
I certainly agree. All the shit is going to hit the fan, and North America is going to experience what the rest of the world knows all too well. But it's just a matter of degree at this point.
Here, have a strawberry.
- you're blowing smoke, or your a fool.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:06 am | #
classic projection from the citykid. Loser.
"Getting married for a third time to the same wonderful guy is just amazing," said Peter Wilson, director of humane services for the Benicia Vallejo Humane Society.
unseriously, who else is wondering if this whole yes/no/back and forth on gays being allowed to marry isn't a giant conspiracy by the wedding industry? fuck me, that's expensive, three weddings. glad they can afford them.
I like that it's hosted at the Obama website, like the FISA group.
Well, I signed up with that group, so it's part of that, actually.
I notice there's lots of repenting going on amongst that group, btw... "forgive us, Landru! Guide us! Guide us!"
Citykid, I'll be working for the Democrat, like I have been since 1964....and before you call someone a fool, you should read up about 'spellcheck'...or use The Google.
classic projection from the citykid. Loser.
ronjazz
classical projection from a main stream democrat - looser.
Declaration of Independence, 2008 version, ran in the NYT July 3rd:
http://www.constitutioncampaign....n.org/ad/
ad.pdf
who else is wondering if this whole yes/no/back and forth on gays being allowed to marry isn't a giant conspiracy by the wedding industry?
Exactly what I told the couple we were sitting with!
BTW, I don't think there was a big ceremony and reception at the first two weddings...
Wes Clark is right, John McSame shouldn't be President because only a loser would get his plane shot down by the gooks.
let's all remember that nader takes money from, and meets regularly with republicans like norquist. and that there really is such a thing as paid republican trolling for the purpose of sowing dissent and disruption, and the power of 'set phasers to ignore.'
classical projection from a main stream democrat - looser.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:10 am | #
shows your desperation. I'm not a democrat, loser. Nor am i swayed by the gigantic ego of the now-useless Nader. I have a better chance at the White House than that clown.
Citykid, I'll be working for the Democrat, like I have been since 1964....and before you call someone a fool, you should read up about 'spellcheck'...or use The Google.
Orange Sunshine, Double BBL
So you've got me by 4 years - have those extra years made you any smarter? Who did you work for in '64? As for the spell check - I like to fuck up my spelling 'cause it always brings the folks who are too anal worrying about spelling out into the open
McCain lost 5 planes in total, it's hard to imagine that at least some of it wasn't "his fault."
Remember those pix of McCain and Lieberliar strutting in Columbia?
From NYT:
The Columbian government also defended the rescue as a Colombian effort after reports that American and Israeli advisers had taken part.
“Not a single foreigner participated,” Defense Minister Juan Manuel Santos said. But he acknowledged that the American military had provided a surveillance plane to monitor the operation, as well as tracking technology placed on the helicopter used to spirit the hostages away that could emit distress signals.
He also said Israel had helped Colombia reorganize its intelligence services in the past."
and...
"While Colombia receives more than $600 million a year in security and antinarcotics aid from the United States, any perception of a more in-depth American role in the rescue would be likely to inflame emotions in neighboring countries like Venezuela, where political supporters of President Hugo Chávez openly support the FARC."
the power of 'set phasers to ignore.'
You mean like this:
Comment by CityKid (Nader for Prez) blocked.
McCain lost 5 planes in total
wow, i didn't know that! that's worse than chimpy. which is saying something. are we sure it's only cindy who has the drug problem?
I wonder sometimes what people would recognize as "complete economic collapse." I think the people living through the collapses described in Jared Diamonds book "Collapse"-- the Easter Islanders, the Norse in Greenland and so forth--- probably didn't describe their situation as economic collapse. They were just living. Or dying, as was the case. They couldn't see the overall picture, and for the most part, neither can we.
I know it's a remote possibility but have the folks at the Obama site considered that he can lose?
He'd be giving McBombBomb all these wiretapping covers.
Johnny was reputed to be quite a party boy in his youth.
More mission accomplished from the Guardian:
"Doubts about the official version of the rescue surfaced in Switzerland where a public radio station quoted an unidentified source - "close to the events, reliable and tested many times in recent years" - saying $20m was paid to the guerrillas."
I like to fuck up my spelling 'cause it always brings the folks who are too anal worrying about spelling out into the open
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:13 am | #
My 4-year-old nephew uses that, too. "I meant to do that!"
What an asshole you are. No wonder your a Naderite. No brains.
In my role of being usually the only person in any given internet discussion of Cynthia McKinney to have actually voted for her, it is incumbent upon me to reiterate that she was an awful Representative, and voters of her district were more than happy, on both occasions when she was faced with a credible Democratic primary challenge, to vote her out of office.
On the other hand, who among us could have expected, on that glorious day back in 2002 when Atlantans voted both of them out of office at the same time in different primaries, that six years later both Cynthia McKinney and Bob Barr would be running for President?
shows your desperation. I'm not a democrat, loser. Nor am i swayed by the gigantic ego of the now-useless Nader. I have a better chance at the White House than that clown.
ronjazz |
I'm enjoying this immensely. After all liberal politics nowadays are based on the ideas that Nader put forth; but everybody seems to feel a need to trash Nader, because some in the Democratic party see him as a threat (as well they should, he's up 4 points in 2 weeks). So be it - shit in your living room, I don't care.
LBJ & Eugene Nickerson for County Executive, in heavily Republican Nassau County, NY....Next time you call someone a fool, don't fuck up the spelling, it doesn't look right. OK, Boss ?
St. Ralph the Underappreciated!
moe: no cable teevee. no cheap plastic junk from china. no gas for daily hour long drives to and from work. no work. no heat for the home in winter. no exotic foods from foreign lands.
yes, i think a lot of amurkins will recognize 'collapse.' the fun part is when we get to the water wars.
What an asshole you are. No wonder your a Naderite. No brains.
ronjazz
Yup, I'd rather meet your 4 year old nephew than you - he probably has more intelligent things to say. Your game is name calling. Too bad, it makes you sound like a REPUBLICAN. No surprise there I guess.
some in the Democratic party see him as a threat (as well they should, he's up 4 points in 2 weeks). So be it - shit in your living room, I don't care.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:17 am | #
Of course he's a threat; he's a Republican stooge. Shit in your mouth, I don't care. But don't tell me that Nader isn't doing as much damage to this country as Bush by being a GOP operative. Just because you're blind and stupid doesn't mean I am.
You folks near the Big Lakes are well situated for water.
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plantsman
I feel your joy
Guns still elusive for D.C. residents
Those looking to buy firearms after the Supreme Court ruling against the District of Columbia's gun ban are out of luck. Purchasing regulations have yet to be written.
By Vimal Patel, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
July 5, 2008
WASHINGTON -- Days after the Supreme Court ruled that residents of the nation's capital can keep handguns at home for self-defense, George Harley walked out of a Maryland gun shop disheartened, his goal of legally having a gun to protect his family put on hold.
this coulod have been written in the Onion
no cable teevee. no cheap plastic junk from china. no gas for daily hour long drives to and from work. no work. no heat for the home in winter.
Except for the second, that describes the lives of millions of people in North America *right now*. See, it's only a matter of degree...
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:20 am | #
You should meet my 4-year-old nephew. You might learn something.
Might.
are we sure it's only cindy who has the drug problem?
chicago dyke, dogsitter
Suggests impulsiveness and poor judgment.
that six years later both Cynthia McKinney and Bob Barr would be running for President?
Ray
that's funny.
Fucking NPR this morning did a segment on Edwards & Obama flip flopping all the time and is it really flip flopping was the teaser.
Morning again. (Mr. ql fell in a stream on his butt. It was quite comical, actually, but he wasn't laughing in his wet pants.)
*yawn* Morning folks. What's new here at my lifeline to Outside Red State Reality?
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Falling on one's rump can hurt, too!
BTW, at the wedding, I learned for the first time that the wingnut anti-gay-marriage initiative in the November election has been assigned proposition number "8".
So the campaign slogans really write themselves (No on H8!)
Just because you're blind and stupid doesn't mean I am.
ronjazz |
No doubt you've demonstrated your brilliance - I'll watch for your forth coming article in Foreign Affairs. Dude - get a life.
Of course he's a threat; he's a Republican stooge.
Nader was heavily funded by Republicans last time around.
Anybody remember when any candidates patriotism was a subject of polling questions? More straight ahead, simple racism.
You folks near the Big Lakes are well situated for water.
plantsman
And the states and provinces around the lakes are working to protect the supply. But that's relatively easy now. Wait til the price goes up, and those who can strike it rich of exporting the water get involved.
In fact, the Great Lakes are exhaustible.
Falling on one's rump can hurt, too!
Oh, aye. Gives me brain contusions.
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Dude - get a life.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:22 am | #
i'm not the one supporting a rabid egomaniac who has no chance of doing anything more than hurting the country. Get a clue; I have a life.
Well, he's not complaining of any pain so I'll continue chuckling.
Anyone ... who votes for the GOP qualifies for the Darwin Award.
Fixed that typo from up above...
Quite an infestation this morning. Must be the holiday weekend or something.
those who can strike it rich of exporting the water get involved.
In fact, the Great Lakes are exhaustible.
Moe Szyslak
Pipelines or aqueducts to areas without ala the TVA project.
moe, you wound me. i thought i was the annoying, arrogant voice for underrepresented poor people around here. i guess i'm not trying hard enough.
mom tells me such disturbing stories about some of her patients (many are elders living on SS and medicare). it's very clear that there is a whole, large, scary mass of people in this country who live exclusively upon scams built on manipulating a small revenue stream from one or another gummit agency (kids and relatives of said patients). when that cash flow ceases...well, it won't be pretty. people will do, and indeed are doing, anything to live. a lot of middle class folks seem to have their heads in the sand about that, we agree.
Well, off to garden. Later, all.
Of course he's a threat; he's a Republican stooge.
Nader was heavily funded by Republicans last time around.
Almost feel sorry for Ralphie. His only gasps of the oxygen of publicity are in electoral years when the Rovians feel the need to try vote splitting. Other than that, Nader goes back in his display box on the shelf, and he's a subject of "Whatever happened to...?" tv.
For the Nader ego, that is Hell. Small wonder he would take GOP money and positions for a shot at relevance.
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Top of the morning, all. Another gorgeous day, currently 68°, heading up to 83.
i picked my 1st hot pepper and it actually had heat (good sign); many years teh hot ones don't get heat until august
Morning, Gromit; has the Dr. Mrs. Gromit recovered from yesterday's mess?
Wait til the price goes up, and those who can strike it rich of exporting the water get involved.
Kind of like this:
http://pressherald.mainetoday.co...y.php?
id=195160
chicago dyke
I tried to catch you the other day to show you this about my daughter, Nyleta
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/
video...spital.camp.cnn
I see you are as fiesty as ever
Top of the morning, all. Another gorgeous day, currently 68°, heading up to 83.
And we're at 83, heading for 104.
ql, i'd make a joke about massaging rumps, but i bet you already have.
In fact, the Great Lakes are exhaustible.
Moe
don't think people in great lakes states don't know this. all my life except for when i was in the military and gummint work, i've lived in great lakes states, and people in them take this issue very seriously. it's hardly articulated in the media, but people here have a deep and almost religious commitment to preserving and protecting our water here. i expect rioting and social upheaval, when our cowardly pols beging to try to sell our water to the chinese and saudis in ernest.
F**king Comcast has taken C-SPAN 2 off of basic cable and will soon be taking 6-7 more channels off of basic cable. BASTARDS!
Already did it here.
Good morning all.
Happy 50th Gomez.
I was an Independent for a long while since neither party pleased me. I'm not so sure I like the two party system.
I think the Arizonoids will come for your water first.
Serena and Venus never look comfortable when they're playing against each other.
. i expect rioting and social upheaval, when our cowardly pols beging to try to sell our water to the chinese and saudis in ernest.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
And a lot of people here are well-armed and great shots. . . .
has the Dr. Mrs. Gromit recovered from yesterday's mess?
Considering she's on call for the weekend, she actually managed to have a good day. Hospital trip #1 was before the morning festivities began, and #2 was when everything was over but the cleanup. But, she's already long gone to run the Saturday clinic.
Pictures of the neighborhood party, including a Very Happy Democrat Who You Know, the world's cutest kid, and our little house are at the home page.
http://vtwayback.blogspot.com/
when that cash flow ceases...well, it won't be pretty. people will do, and indeed are doing, anything to live. a lot of middle class folks seem to have their heads in the sand about that, we agree.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
Once upon a time neighborhood churches provided the safety net in society. FDR switched that to government and churches lost a lot of power and influence.
If the cash flow ceases, there will be religious (and nonreligious) communes springing up where small sources of revenue are pooled.
mom tells me such disturbing stories about some of her patients (many are elders living on SS and medicare). it's very clear that there is a whole, large, scary mass of people in this country who live exclusively upon scams built on manipulating a small revenue stream from one or another gummit agency (kids and relatives of said patients).
Chi, we surely have this in Kentucky. Can't count how many elderly are supporting whole households on their pittance. And getting SSDI status (often here called 'crazy checks') is an art form.
Various Randians might want to end government redistributive funding, but they are going to find themselves surrounded when they do.
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Nader was heavily funded by Republicans last time around.
el
So was Bill Clinton if you study the list of contributors. Now that you mention it, so is Obama. It's not rocket science now days. Maybe somebody should publish a list of corporate donors to Bush Jr. who have given to Obama - might shed some light on Obamas recent change of heart. In all honesty - it will be business as usual as long as the Democrats and Republicans are running the show. Historically, neither party has shown any inclination towards change unless they are poked with a sharp stick from outside the party.
I tried to catch you the other day to show you this about my daughter, Nyleta
john, you must be so proud. bless her, that's inspirational.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...-after-
sen.html
After its sure Obama'll be candidate,Hillarys base moves away from Obama
She was my Representative and I supported her for a long time, but the incident at the Capitol was the last straw. I knew she was history the moment the headline popped up on CNN. At that point, I was glad to see her go.
Serena and Venus never look comfortable when they're playing against each other.
I was just thinking that I understood their dad, and then realized I have watched my daughters play against each other. (team sport, not individual)
"we love that you called her a ghetto slut"-Cox Radio to Neal Boortz
i'm not the one supporting a rabid egomaniac who has no chance of doing anything more than hurting the country. Get a clue; I have a life.
ronjazz
Right on. I can see you're a deep thinker and I'm glad you care so about our nation. But I wonder, what's more important to you, the Dems winning the next election or our 4th amendment rights?
i would think that a gravity-fed desalination plant that filled some area of death-valley could be a solution to socal's water. or wind/solar powered water pumps that did the same and put the outflow back into teh ocean
i really ain't askeert of 'water' shortages; it's more ample than anything else on earth. energy is way more in short supply
Just saw the trailer for the new Bond film. Daniel Craig is the best Bond yet.
I think the Arizonoids will come for your water first.
plantsman
nope, they won't be able to compete, financially speaking, with the foreign interests. after all, bush has spent the last eight years indebting us to other countries and foreign powers; i think one way they'll cash that in is in liquid gold.
GOP Rep: "Bush should stay home during GOP Convention."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...y_n_110949.html
(you're not that lucky.)
Serena and Venus never look comfortable when they're playing against each other.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:32
In a one-on-one sport, in order to be competitive, you have to hate and want to crush your opponent. I imagine these two women like each other too much to feel that way.
If it were me and one of my siblings, different story.
I think the Arizonoids will come for your water first.
Naw, then it wouldn't be a dry heat anymore...
There's a huge project being planned to pump out the Verde river aquifer to fuel growth up north, but a bunch of people are fighting it because it would wreck a huge ecosystem and even take away water from the Phoenix area. Aquifer pumping in the southern part of the state has led to huge sinkholes opening up.
But that's happening in lots of other places too. Like Kansas, where the Oglalla aquifer is being drained and all those crops in the western part of the state are going to stop being profitable soon. You know, the ones they grow using petroleum for the pumps, fertilizer and harvesting? It all ties together...
i really ain't askeert of 'water' shortages; it's more ample than anything else on earth. energy is way more in short supply
Most of that water is salt; desalination requires energy. At a certain level it's the same problem.
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Daniel Craig is the best Bond yet.
Maggie | 07.05.08 - 9:37 am | #
if any man has tempted me to switch teams of late, it's him. i complete agree and can't wait for the new one. those eyes!
Death Valley is a National Monument that many people would not take kindly to filling in. Try again.
But I wonder, what's more important to you, the Dems winning the next election or our 4th amendment rights?
CityKid (Nader for Prez)
A veto-proof Congress could trump a President.
If he abuses executive functions, investigations and impeachment of officials and the exec are possible.
thanks Chi
we each do our small part to help
she has found a much bigger way
may you prosper
And Judi Dench is the best M. Finally someone who can almost keep up with Bond himself.
...the incident at the Capitol was the last straw.
Your concern is noted.
But I wonder, what's more important to you, the Dems winning the next election or our 4th amendment rights?
CityKid (Nader for Prez)
A veto-proof Congress could trump a President.
I agree, and I think if folks would worry more about who is in Congress and less about the executive office - rights might trump property.
Judi Dench got stoned and called someone a "pussy" in Bringing Down The House. " Was funny.
damn tags!
If it were me and one of my siblings, different story.
R. McGeddon
Well, my oldest has that deep-down inside need to excell, and the younger one is much more aggressive.
I notice this in a lot of sisters.
let's all remember that nader takes money from, and meets regularly with republicans like norquist. and that there really is such a thing as paid republican trolling for the purpose of sowing dissent and disruption, and the power of 'set phasers to ignore.'
chicago dyke, dogsitter
True. And if Bob Barr sets up a serious challenge, I for one am gonna send him money.
Why should Ralph Nader have all the fun? Bob Barr might snatch Georgia and Florida from the GOP, and deliver them to Team Blue. Boo effin' hoo.
Death Valley is a National Monument that many people would not take kindly to filling in. Try again.
how much will it mean to people when they are thirsty?
cynicus: there is sun and wind in socal to pump seawater and desal it. the energy i talk about as needing is for commerce
Observationally, the ad for the obituary archives isn't as pleasant to look at as the girls in the tee shirts...
i guess i'm just dumb. "quantum of solace?" that makes no sense at all to me, as a movie title. but i'll go see it anyway, for judi as well as daniel. i hope she lives forever, she's so cool.
CityKid you can say that about Nader himself.
He's always running for president.
Why isn't he concerned about getting more local offices on his side?
mogwai, there are more environmentally sound places and ways to store water, is what I'm concerned about.
i really ain't askeert of 'water' shortages; it's more ample than anything else on earth. energy is way more in short supply
It's very ample, just in short supply if clean enough for our expectations, and for how much humans like to waste it.
atablarasa, What is your gravatar? It sorta looks like a grey poodle's butt, though I am pretty sure it's not.
"quantum of solace?" that makes no sense at all to me, as a movie title.
"Tomorrow Never Dies"
"You Only Live Twice"
cynicus: there is sun and wind in socal to pump seawater and desal it. the energy i talk about as needing is for commerce
i have been places that are running on desalination plants. None of them were solar or wind, despite being in sunny/windy locations (the Caribbean for one such place). Not saying it's impossible, just that it hasn't been happening.
i would imagine part of the argument is that the energy requirements are very high (specific heat of water, all that) and the need for reliability critical. But even if solar salt removal is do-able, is it doable in time and to scale?
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sigh. you can probably tell i'm avoiding cleaning the house. i'd be out in the garden with moe too, but the dinosaur-grade mosquitoes are too thick today. i'm worried about losing gallons of blood while weeding.
What country has the greatest amount of fresh water? I'm guessing Canada, then Russia.
The gravitar's a dragon head. But I can work with "poodle butt", too.
Most desal plants in Saudi are oil-fired, I believe.
cd, is your flooding under control? I'm sure that contributes to your skeeter problem.
The gravitar's a dragon head.
OK, I can see that now.
Apparently the wingnuts noticed the protesters at Bushfest.
From Gateway Pundit
The crazed Pinko running at President Bush is Desiree Farooz, the same lunatic who assaulted Condoleezza Rice with "bloody" hands at a Senate hearing last October. This dangerous woman is going to get seriously hurt some day.
Although, not verified, another commenter claims the nut in the UVA shirt was Kucinich's press secretary
The freaks were screaming "F**K You Bush!" The New Editor has video. They were also taking turns disrupting the president. That's not freedom of speech- That's abuse.
Among the comments:
I am not a violent person, nor would I be very good at violence if I were. But if I am ever anywhere that one of these clown shoes pulls a stunt like this, all those hours of watching MMA are finally going to pay off.
This is just another example of the selfishness of the loony left. On a day celebrating those people who went through rigorous channels to become citizens, code pinko tries to steal their thunder with this garbage.
As usual, President Bush handled himself with grace and dignity, something that these lunatics will never exhibit or grasp.
these morons continue to engage in this type of activity because they pay no price for their idiotic actions. If those who were having their rights violated, the rank and file of the audience, would exact a penalty for this behavior, it would cease or at least decrease. If those who are in attendance to hear the president or whoever speak would slap the snot out of these morons, their list of volunteer fool protesters would surely shrink. Bear in mind this retribution should be at the hands of the attending citizenry, not the authorities. Plenty have fought for their freedom of speech, let these fools get a taste of it.
The Russians managed to ruin and shrink the Aral Sea.
i guess i'm just dumb. "quantum of solace?" that makes no sense at all to me, as a movie title.
Title of an Ian Fleming short story that had Bond in it, peripherally, and has not yet been used as a Bond flick title.
Bond flicks are traditionally named according to Ian Fleming Bond book titles, no matter how little the movie and book match.
IOW, they are getting down to the barrel bottom.
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By the by, has anybody got an opinion on "Hancock?" We went to Wanted based on some reviews that were fairly positive and were very disappointed.
"You only live twice" comes from a haiku that Bond tells Tanaka after they've been out drinking, in the novel:
You only live twice
Once when you're born
Once looking death in the face
Not quite the right number of syllables, which Tanaka criticizes, but thinks it a worthy effort for a gaijin, if my forty-year-old memory can be trusted.
yes, gromit, it is. thanks. indeed, it's ironic that we're speaking of water this morning, as much as i'm glad that i have a well on this property, there are times when i truly regret living in the subdivision's natural low point. i swear i felt like noah the other night, it was so deep in the backyard. good news tho; the lawyer tells me the realty company has been enjoined on our lawsuit. can you say "ka-ching?"
history lesson
prep school: McCain had a low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve. He did well in academic subjects that interested him, such as literature and history, but studied only enough to pass subjects he disliked, such as math.
McCain's pre-combat duty started two and a half years of training as a naval aviator at Pensacola. There he also earned a reputation as a party man.
He was then stationed in Skyraider squadrons. The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines, but he received no major injuries.
McCain was almost killed on July 29, 1967 when he was near the center of the Forrestal fire, an unusual electrical glitch which discharged a Zuni rocket on the flight deck. He escaped from his burning jet and was trying to help another pilot escape when a bomb exploded.
McCain was flying his twenty-third bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi. McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned, when he parachuted into a lake in Hanoi. He was taken to the Hanoi Hilton.
Aquifer pumping in the southern part of the state has led to huge sinkholes opening up.
Yah. But not since we brought the Central Arizona Project on line. Now, we re-charge the aquifers. It's fairly important to be up to date on water use if you're going to be in Arizona. Just as it's important to know how far west the Oglala aquifer extends, and to what degree Arizona farming is dry land farming. The Verde project isn't going to work, incidentally - it's backed by those great developers who have built houses in northwest AZ as bedroom communities for Vegas. Out of time, fellas.
I saw reviews that panned "Hancock" and one in the NYT that was positive. I'm guessing it's bad.
Gotta get back to work. Later, folks, and be well.
So was Bill Clinton if you study the list of contributors. Now that you mention it, so is Obama.
heh.
It's one thing to be funded by individual republics and another thing entirely to be funded by the rnc for the expressed purpose of pulling voters away from the Democratic candidate.
Good Morning....
Is George Bush still president?
I used to 'tube at the confluence of the Verde and Salt rivers. Got a helluva sunburn there, once.
Not saying it's impossible, just that it hasn't been happening.
i would imagine part of the argument is that the energy requirements are very high (specific heat of water, all that) and the need for reliability critical. But even if solar salt removal is do-able, is it doable in time and to scale?
this abstract talks about water pressure reverse osmosis water desal:
innovative RO desal
use solar and wind to drive the water up the hill and then use the hydrostatic pressure of the water to desal itself.
in the caribbean water is still plentiful from rain, in the desert like socal not so much
I saw reviews that panned "Hancock" and one in the NYT that was positive. I'm guessing it's bad
i might call it 'confused'. Doesn't know where it's going, so it wanders.
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The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines
Oh, it was the planes and those pesky power lines! Somehow, I had the misconception that the pilot might be responsible.
But I wonder, what's more important to you, the Dems winning the next election or our 4th amendment rights?
The bill passed recently, as bad as it is, only gives immunity to the communications companies for civil action, not criminal action.
Obama's on record as saying he will go after the companies for criminal actions.
Aquifer pumping in the southern part of the state has led to huge sinkholes opening up.
Better than the LA project: to recycle sewage water. My brother can't figure out why desalinizing Pacific water wouldn't be better.
He's always running for president.
Why isn't he concerned about getting more local offices on his side?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Interesting question. I think he has tried to enlist local support. But, the election laws in most states are designed to exclude anyone who is not affiliated with a major party. Your accusations could be leveled against any and all third party candidates over the last 50 years or so. I'd like to see you organize a grass roots campaign in all 50 states against the majors. Nader was well on his way and would be a household name now had he not been excluded from the debates by the Democrats and the Republicans (acting in consort).
"You only live twice" comes from a haiku that Bond tells Tanaka after they've been out drinking, in the novel.
Yeah, that's the novel.
Which also ends with Bond living a completely different life.
The movie, however, has little to do with the novel...
you know, i'm still trying to figure out how such a low-ranking grad could qualify for the aviator program. oh wait, his daddy was an admiral. any other applicant with those qualifications would've been laughed out of the program before arriving.
in the caribbean water is still plentiful from rain,
Maybe realtively. Smallish rocky islands don't necessarily have grand freshwater reserves from nature.
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Obama's on record as saying he will go after the companies for criminal actions.
billy b
Link?
And can Bush take care of that with a pardon on the way out?
I'm still waiting for Dr. Shatterhand to make an appearance in a Bond film, btw...
Serena and Venus never look comfortable when they're playing against each other.
The score graphic in the upper left of the NBC screen is certainly unique:
Serena
_______
Venus
No last name (and of course not really needing one)
plantsman, that's just over the pass from my house. I'm about 10 miles south of the river.
GWPDA, I know that they recharge now, but my impression was that it wasn't keeping up, and that the recent sinkhole in Gilbert that took out a street was more of the same. Not so?
Daddy and Grandaddy both. And he appropriates an Admiral's star for use in his campaign logo.
any other applicant with those qualifications would've been laughed out of the program before arriving.
See Bush, George W.
"Sorry, we can't seem to locate that folder..."
the LA project: to recycle sewage water. My brother can't figure out why desalinizing Pacific water wouldn't be better.
Because the human pathogenic viruses are hard to see in clear water.
People can taste almost trace amounts of salt.
It's not better it's easier.
Convention planners, the White House and the McCain campaign are wrestling with how to choreograph a proper send-off for Mr. Bush — sure, his poll numbers are in the tank, but he is still the party leader and president of the United States
Well, seppuku in the 9/11-soaked setting of his last convention address is the first thing to mind.
you know, i'm still trying to figure out how such a low-ranking grad could qualify for the aviator program.
That was prep school, dunno about college, wikipedia didn't cover it.
Let George use the Larry Craig Memorial Stall.
Gromit, doesn't seppuku require *having* honor in the first place?
I would like to see McCain's navy career compared directly with those f the ten people closest in grad rank in his class.
You'd think that real reporters would do stuff like this.
My understanding is that his low rank was at the Naval Academy.
. Nader was well on his way and would be a household name now had he not been excluded from the debates by the Democrats and the Republicans (acting in consort).
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 9:58 am | #
he is a household name. just not the one he would have picked for himself.
*sigh*
nader makes a lot of good points, and far be it from someone who supported the democratic candidate who was excluded from the debates to downplay the importance of protest votes for someone who can't actually win. but he's going about it the wrong way this time, which really does make it look like it's all about ralph. there ARE no sure-thing republican states. the important things this time are getting a landslide mandate and getting a veto/filibuster-proof senate majority. as smart as ralph is supposed to be, you'd think he'd see that.
oh, and good morning folks. been here a while, just didn't have anything to say til now.
It's one thing to be funded by individual republics and another thing entirely to be funded by the rnc for the expressed purpose of pulling voters away from the Democratic candidate.
billy b
So the RNC is funding Naders campaign?
Got a reference for that? Else you sound like a DLC Dem willing to say or do anything to win.
el, my understanding is that he was fourth from the bottom of his academy class. like i said, regular folks with those numbers don't stand a chance for the "elite" aviation programs. but i know from personal experience how the children of high ranking officers are treated differently. as do we all, now.
in the caribbean water is still plentiful from rain,
Maybe realtively. Smallish rocky islands don't necessarily have grand freshwater reserves from nature.
Anguilla is about the driest place I've ever been.
I would like to see McCain's navy career compared directly with those f the ten people closest in grad rank in his class.
I would like to have seen the press compare McCaint's military career with Wes Clark's last week when the press and the republics were screaming about Clark...
I don't know if anyone else has seen this, but I just read on the Huffington Post that GM,with its stock selling below 10.00 a share, a price not seen since 1954, has discovered, that WAIT A MINUTE, WE DO HAVE FUEL EFFICIENT CARS WE COULD SELL AMERICANS!!!!! It's just simply miraculous!! They just forgot all about the fuel efficient cars they've been manufacturing and selling in Europe for decades while whining to the American congress that they couldn't possibly make more fuel efficient cars over here.
They can go hang for all I care.
So the RNC is funding Naders campaign?
Got a reference for that?
That was the case. You go find the link.
The Galapagos are rather dry, for being surrounded by water.
All I could find about college (McCain): He graduated the United States Naval Academy (Annapolis) in 1958.
One thing for sure, they're not going to list his class rank.
Nader was well on his way and would be a household name.
heh.
Sure.
You funny.
Let George use the Larry Craig Memorial Stall.
plantsman
Excellent! As the network cameras run and the world watches, Bush enters the stall, ten breathless minutes pass, and then McCain emerges, zipping up, with TP on his shoe.
One thing for sure, they're not going to list his class rank.
McCain had conflicts with higher-ups, and he was disinclined to obey every rule, which contributed to a low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve.
has discovered, that WAIT A MINUTE, WE DO HAVE FUEL EFFICIENT CARS WE COULD SELL AMERICANS!!!!! It's just simply miraculous!!
when the last drop of oil has been burned, they will release their inventory of fuel-cell powered flying cars.
Comment by CityKid (Nader for Prez) blocked.
Really, kids - it's that fucking easy.
I want my atomic micropile-powered hovercraft...
I would like to have seen the press compare McCaint's military career with Wes Clark's last week when the press and the republics were screaming about Clark...
Well, we'll have to wait for a wealthy liberal to buy a media corporation.
I heard GM management has decided to bring back the Corvair.
I want my atomic micropile-powered hovercraft...
atablarasa
I have my on order, but I was told I might have to wait until 2056 to get it.
Damn waiting lists.
I would like to see McCain's navy career compared directly with those f the ten people closest in grad rank in his class.
Vince McDuff-mustered out after tailhook scandal. Owned a Yugo dealership in Bumfuck TX until his death from a drug overdose.
Toby-stationed on a garbage scow till his discharge. Moved into his mother's basement and in his later years became a troll
McGregor McGregor-served in the Nixon white house. Is now a high level RNC operative.
I want my atomic micropile-powered hovercraft...
atablarasa
I"m not done with it yet *whines*
I heard GM management has decided to bring back the Corvair.
Gromit | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:10 am | #
oh, snap!
Supreme Commander Thor
I thought that comment in wikipedia was about his *prep school* record at Episcopal High School.
That was prep school, dunno about college, wikipedia didn't cover it.
el
mccain >> 894/899 anapolis
They can go hang for all I care.
foolme1ns |
Again, and take all of their fucking DEMOCRATIC workers and all of their FUCKING DEMOCRATIC Suppliers' workers and their fucking families and the entire BLUE Fucking state of Michigan with them.
Fixed that for you.
billy b
Obama did not explicitly state he would criminally prosecute the Telecoms, just that he COULD.
From your link:
However, if Obama now has no stomach to enforce the criminal law, as he once proclaimed he would, he may pay a significant cost for balking. In particular, he is likely going to lose more than a few among his base of supporters who are upset with his flip-flop on the FISA amendments, for many of these unhappy supporters may currently take comfort in knowing (as few others know) that he could hold violators responsible for their criminal actions – and will retain that power even if the current legislation becomes law.
Of course, Obama can remain silent, which is the usual course of action for Washington politicians in these situations. But he will remain silent at the risk of making all his previous statements increasingly hollow, and his posture strikingly wishy-washy. And how refreshing it would be for him to act like a leader who believes we are governed by laws, not the whims of men.
I thought that comment in wikipedia was about his *prep school* record at Episcopal High School.
el
Nope. Naval Academy. They've polished it up a little; there used to be a comment in there about him being in "The Century Club", which is what they used to refer to those cadets who received 100 or more demerits a year.
The Chevy Cobalt gets 36 highway mpg. They can't make them fast enough.
Wesley Clark's academic standing:
Clark sat in the front in many of his classes, a position held by the highest performer in class. Clark participated heavily in debate, was consistently within the top 5% of his class as a whole (earning him a "Distinguished Cadet" patch on his uniform), and ultimately graduated as valedictorian of West Point. The valedictorian is first to choose which career field of the Army to serve in, and Clark selected armor...
Clark eventually applied for a Rhodes Scholarship and learned in December of his senior year at West Point that he had been accepted.
I don't think there's much of a match between Clark & McCain on the subject of BRAIN power.
Obama did not explicitly state he would criminally prosecute the Telecoms, just that he COULD.
Whatever.
The point was that the bill passed only gives immunity from civil action not criminal.
Big difference.
/pants/
clearly my track and field days are waaaaay behind me. what the fuck the postman is doing here four hours before the normal time, i don't know. but i got my package mailed, dammit, barefoot 200 yard dash to catch up with his truck and all.
el, You're using the wrong source. McCain's data is more complete at Dickipedia (seriously)
http://www.dickipedia.org/
dick.p...tle=John_McCain
Apropos of nothing...
Ever wonder what would happen if the UAW held a shutout strike - that is, surrounded the car plant with pickets to keep workers out - but the punchline is, the 'workers' they kept out were management? The line ran the plant themselves for a few years?
i wonder how GM or Ford could do if those making the decisions were trying to make and sell cars, not to make auto loans and sell stock shares.
Fantasy, i know. Possibly Commie. But still, dammit all.....
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Clark in Vietnam...got shot, not shot down:
Clark was assigned a position in the 1st Infantry Division and flew to Vietnam on May 21, 1969 during the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He worked as a staff officer, collecting data and helping in operations planning, and was awarded the Bronze Star for his work with the staff. Clark was then given command of A Company, 1st Battalion, 16th Infantry of the 1st Infantry Division in January 1970. In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force. Clark had injuries to his right shoulder, right hand, right hip, and right leg, and was sent to Valley Forge Army Hospital in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania to recuperate. He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter.
GM: "WE DO HAVE FUEL EFFICIENT CARS WE COULD SELL AMERICANS!!!!!"
Sorry guys, the anti for this poker hand has been raised. It's now in the 70 mpg to 300 mpg range.
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/...-at-high-
g.html
http://www.aptera.com/
You will have to come up with product that can compete in the marketplace to continue playing.
Morning, all.
Anything irksome going on I should know about?
I don't think there's much of a match between Clark & McCain on the subject of BRAIN power.
Plus ole Wes is hawt.
The point was that the bill passed only gives immunity from civil action not criminal.
The great thing about a campaign based on "hope" is you can ignore the candidate's actual actions and pronouncement and "hope" he's going to do whatever pleases you.
I don't think there's much of a match between Clark & McCain on the subject of BRAIN power.
heh.
McBush would have trouble matching wits with the squirrel that's out on my back deck right now.
Nope. Naval Academy. They've polished it up a little; there used to be a comment in there about him being in "The Century Club", which is what they used to refer to those cadets who received 100 or more demerits a year.
Supreme Commander Thor
Where are all these classmates and for that matter where are the people passed up so that the Admiral's son could move ahead?
Is this where Cindy's credit card money went to?
But it was in his off-base activities that McCain truly excelled. According to one classmate, "being on liberty with John McCain was like being in a train wreck."
Change "being on liberty with" to "Holding the office of the President for" and we have a pretty good idea of what's in store if Johnny somehow finds a way into the Oval Office.
Anything irksome going on I should know about?
Video killed the radio star.
The point was that the bill passed only gives immunity from civil action not criminal.
that, and that the bill sucks and there was no rational reason it had to be passed at all.
a new law making it clear that the old law is the law? holy pointless, batman.
How was the movie marathon?
That was the case. You go find the link.
billy b
I'll assume your just blowing gas unless you can offer some proof. You made the claim - now prove it; it's not my job. Indeed, your tactics seems to be similar to a certain party (and network starting with "F") Really now - who should I believe you, or the DLC?
Comment by CityKid (Nader for Prez) blocked.
Really, kids - it's that fucking easy.
Why, yes. Yes it is.
He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter.
Can we get some "Silver Star" band-aids printed up in time for the Republic convention?
I heard GM management has decided to bring back the Corvair.
Gromit
Whew! I was afraid they would resurrect the Vega.
In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force. Clark had injuries to his right shoulder, right hand, right hip, and right leg, and was sent to Valley Forge Army Hospital in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania to recuperate. He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter.
[Michelle Malkin]
"What most people don't know is that he PAID that little yellow bastard to shoot him. It would be unethical not to speculate, you know?"
[/Michelle "Stalkin'" Malkin]
McCain's Naval Academy Career seems like that of a third generation Navy brat who figured the only thing he could "out-perform" his namesakes over in is partying and whoring.
All the while knowing his last name would bail him out in a jam.
McBush would have trouble matching wits with the squirrel that's out on my back deck right now.
McCain's evolutionary advantage over the squirrel is larger cheek pouches, not brainpower.
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Anybody here think Obama has to get seriously and loudly slammed by his base on the Left like immediately?
After FISA, the "refinement" on Iraq, and this abortion shit, he needs to be smacked down and soon, IMHO. He's not moving to the center -- he's moving hard right.
GM is done. Too little too late. And even if they made a fuel efficient car, it would be poorly designed. My Honda Civic gets 38 mpg highway and is extremely well designed and reliable. They'll have an even better one in a few years when I'm ready to buy a new one. Meanwhile my dad is spending $700 every other month in repairs on his Chevy. Told me yesterday that would be his last GM car.
lus ole Wes is hawt.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Agreed, and I liked Bjorn's beautiful silver hair, BTW.
The great thing about a campaign based on "hope" is you can ignore the candidate's actual actions and pronouncement and "hope" he's going to do whatever pleases you.
Good grief.
Ugh. Mahler 9 is not Saturday morning music. [Switches to XM Blues]
Whew! I was afraid they would resurrect the Vega.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:18 am | #
Last I heard, Suzanne Vega was fine.
GM: "WE DO HAVE FUEL EFFICIENT CARS WE COULD SELL AMERICANS!!!!!"
Sorry guys, the anti for this poker hand has been raised. It's now in the 70 mpg to 300 mpg range.
You will have to come up with product that can compete in the marketplace to continue playing.
GM Execs:
"Bring Back the Vega!"
When did Elias move to the city?
I heard GM management has decided to bring back the Corvair.
Back in the day when the Corvair was made it could have been a contender, if GM had been serious about making a good car.
Nowadays it's MPG and reliability rating would kill it before it got off the starting block.
Products from Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Hundai, Kia, Suzuki are much better than anything produced by GM today for high MPG vehicles. (I've driven a Colbalt)
After FISA, the "refinement" on Iraq, and this abortion shit, he needs to be smacked down and soon, IMHO. He's not moving to the center -- he's moving hard right.
steve hüssein® simels |
yes, except two things. the "refinement" on iraq is a non-story fluffed up by mcthuselah's fluffers. and he's not moving anywhere, he's always been there. refer to the chart.
setting phasers to ignore is the only way to go. it's too stupid to live, and not worth your time.
Plus ole Wes is hawt.
Honey
he's also very 'real.' it was funny, when i met him, surrounded by professional pols and consultants and whatnot, he seemed a tad uncomfortable. with the hoo-haw and posturing, not with the issues. he really does have a Giant Brain and i'm very sorry that in this age, that's a negative in politics.
camelot agreed. Bjorn still looks good.
I just miss those golden locks.
Anybody here think Obama has to get seriously and loudly slammed by his base on the Left like immediately?
You should read my post over at MyBarackTheLivingLegendAndHisHorseSilver or whatever the hell it's called...
*sigh* Like ChiDi, i have to dash. Although without her grace and style.
Keep it going, kids. Good day and good luck!
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I would like to see a reincarnation of the AMC Gremlin, but that would require the resurrection of AMC. Mitt?
What's the abortion shit? I searched the thread and only found the word twice (now thrice).
I would like to see a reincarnation of the AMC Gremlin, but that would require the resurrection of AMC. Mitt?
The Pacer!!!!!
I can't believe where some of you folks are comming from. You're arguing that Clark has a leg up on McCain because he killed more "cong" than McCain did. Ugh - we had no more business in Vietnam than we do in Iraq, Afghanistan or Iran. Get your heads out of the sand. I do think that Clark has creaiblity, but not based on how many volks he blew away on their home soil. Kind of sick if you ask me.
I would like to see a reincarnation of the AMC Gremlin, but that would require the resurrection of AMC.
AMC Pacer, bitches!
What's the abortion shit?
Check out Hecate.
go over to hecate's place, tralfaz.
The Pacer always reminded me of those Fisher-Price "popper" things you rolled across the floor.
mcthuselah
Heh. "No gal ain't givin' to no man what's 900 years"
I can't believe where some of you folks are comming from. You're arguing that Clark has a leg up on McCain because he killed more "cong" than McCain did.
....um, no.
bev of choice to dave, yet again. i swear you live in my haid sometimes, buddy.
I feel for Venus.
She looks a little bit like my niece Rachel.
In the blue.
The Pacer always reminded me of those Fisher-Price "popper" things you rolled across the floor.
plantsman
The Toyota Prius looks like a Pacer IMO.
So how many demerits did Barry Hussein get assholes?
q: mr obama, you've promised to withdraw troops from iraq in 16 months. what if the helicopter pulling them out was booby trapped so that as soon as they stepped in it they would all be blown to kingdom come, and terrorists in bagdad had a giant laser that, as soon as they got the american troops out of the way, they would aim into the atmosphere and destroy the ozone layer over the arctic circle hastening the extinction of polar bears by 20 years and you could stop all of that by letting the troops stay another three weeks?
a: well, obviously, in that unlikely scenario ...
q: obama wants to stay in iraq 100 years! just like mccain! their policies are now EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!!
Comment by CityKid (Nader for Prez) | blocked.
Ooh, that *is* better!
i swear you live in my haid sometimes, buddy.
Great minds think alike!
What's the abortion shit? I searched the thread and only found the word twice (now thrice).
Tralfaz | 07.05.08 - 10:22 am | #
He said that "emotional distress" is not a legitimate reason for a later term abortion.
What's the abortion shit? I searched the thread and only found the word twice (now thrice).
Tralfaz
Obama stated that when a woman is in her third trimester, there needs to be a compelling medical reason for proceeding with an abortion. The question posed the idea that she should be able to procure an abortion on the basis of mental stress. He flinched at the notion, stating that mental stress was not a compelling medical reason.
Um yes.
In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force.
I would like to see a reincarnation of the AMC Gremlin, but that would require the resurrection of AMC. Mitt?
The Pacer!!!!!
billy b
Better to devolve back to Nash-Kelvinator and bring back the Metropolitan.
And two-tone paint jobs.
I feel for Venus
Whaddya mean?
dave and chi: thanks
yeah, stupid comment by BO
Abortion comes down to SCOTUS appts. Pro choice (and relatively young) is all that matters. I think Obama will come through.
I feel for Venus.
She looks a little bit like my niece Rachel.
Venus IMO is someone who has grown into her looks. Isn't she dating Tiger Woods' swing coach or something?
What I find strange from body style is that the Williams' are sisters. Their both tall, and from their faces they clearly are sisters, but they are built so differently.
Funny how the fascista always think they're "true Patriots."
The Mars Phoenix probe does not have the instruments necessary to detect microorganisms
Thanks, Religious Right
AMC Pacer, bitches!
When I live in Cali, my next door neighbor (a civilian helicopter maint supervisor for the Cal Nat Air Guard)
Had a couple of autos, an ancient European Audi with about 600 and some thousand miles on it, and an AMC pacer, also with quite a few miles on the odometer, I think 192,000. He said he kept the Pacer just because it was a weird vehicle.
You should read my post over at MyBarackTheLivingLegendAndHisHorseSilver or whatever the hell it's called...
nice post. glad to see the supportive comments as well. i guess some folks are finally catching on that we're going to have a disappointing uphill battle, again, to keep our democratic president acting like, well, a democrat.
OK Simels. Here is a Coke, but I wrote lots more. *grumble*
Obama stated that when a woman is in her third trimester, there needs to be a compelling medical reason for proceeding with an abortion.
if not for the stigma and cost and general difficulty, plus the obscene number of unwanted pregnancies to begin with, this would rarely be an issue. let's work on that first, shall we?
He said that "emotional distress" is not a legitimate reason for a later term abortion.
So he's a physician? A pregnant woman? Those two would be the only folk whose opinion should count in the matter. It's pretty simple.
....um, no.
Attaturk
Um yes.
You said:
In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force.
He said he kept the Pacer just because it was a weird vehicle.
Always reminded me of the cars the Jetsons flew.
steve and bill: thanks 2
hopefully he'll "refine" that position
They can go hang for all I care.
You need to figure out how to just hang the management and let the tens of thousands of workers keep their jobs.
Their both tall, and from their faces they clearly are sisters, but they are built so differently.
Attaturk
it's the same case with me and my sis. i'm tall, she's taller. i'm slender, she's muscular. her hair runs to blonde more naturally than mine, and yet- folks (mostly white folks) are always asking us if we're twins. it's odd.
i guess some folks are finally catching on that we're going to have a disappointing uphill battle, again, to keep our democratic president acting like, well, a democrat.
Thank you.
Abortion comes down to SCOTUS appts.
Let's keep in mind how much Obama loves playing patty-cake with fundamentalist homophobes.
An issue that should have been thoroughly delved into during the primaries, but wasn't because... because... Hope! Change!! HITLERY!!!
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...july-
event.html
Bush heckled on 4th of July
What I find strange from body style is that the Williams' are sisters. Their both tall, and from their faces they clearly are sisters, but they are built so differently.
Someday I'll remember my passwords to my accounts and e-mail pictures. My daughters-one blonde, one brunette, one tall, one built like a East German Olympic swimmer.
Nader Troll, I am sure McCain killed more people on his bombing runs than Wes Clark did.
Nobody was arguing that. When St. Ralph starts treating his employs in a matter that isn't horrific, and quits taking money from Republicans we can talk.
Dr. Turk I agree.
Venus has grown into her looks.
My nieces are like that too.
One is tall and slender and the other not so much.
Isn't she dating Tiger Woods' swing coach or something?
All that golf talent, and he's a dancer too?
You need to figure out how to just hang the management and let the tens of thousands of workers keep their jobs.
Toonscribe | 07.05.08 - 10:31 am | #
you say you want a revolution
well, you know
we all want to change the world
Pacers had phatness. Gremlins are just cool-looking in retrospect. If either one of them were revived as a 45 mpg new design, they could do well. According to Wikipedia, Chrysler owns the brand (they've only marketed Jeep since they bought AMC).
Every time Clark is mentioned for his comments about McCain by the MSM, they ALWAYS insert that he was fired from his last post as NATO Supreme Commander to undermine his credibility.
What was the firing all about?
Obama has spoken openly and supportively of gay and lesbian people in a number of speeches.
An issue that should have been thoroughly delved into during the primaries, but wasn't because... because... Hope! Change!! HITLERY!!!
dave™© | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:32 am |
HEIGHT!
The whole abortion issue was covered last night. I think the context of the statement is important. Roe vs. Wade was the context of which he was speaking, and his interpretation of that was the basis of his statement. Whether Roe is right or wrong is another matter altogether.
Samantha Power's Big Fat Irish Wedding
http://www.independent.ie/nation...ot-
1428109.html
Nader Troll, I am sure McCain killed more people on his bombing runs than Wes Clark did.
Nobody was arguing that.
heh.
The trool is only interested in playing 'gotcha'.
Tedious.
i'm so glad that a declining number of people in this country give a shit about what happened in Nam. as a liberal, of course i abhor imperialist wars of choice and regret my naton's actions back then, but for fuck's sake, can we focus on the problems facing us today? please?
Trademark Dave, good post at Obama's site. My guess is, he got the message from progressives. The second press conference yesterday when he reiterated the Iraq end the war message.
Otherwise he would have been toast.
All that golf talent, and he's a dancer too?
Gromit |
*snort*
(I hate that)
Obama has spoken openly and supportively of gay and lesbian people in a number of speeches.
He makes real purdy speeches, he does...
Obama has spoken openly and supportively of gay and lesbian people in a number of speeches.
plantsman
yes, but not to the point of making them truly equal under the law.
the drinking fountain over there is just as good, after all.
(disclaimer: mccain wants all the gays confined to re-education camps until they stop succumbing to their unholy natural desires. yeah, i get it. vote obama.)
Pacers had phatness. Gremlins are just cool-looking in retrospect. If either one of them were revived as a 45 mpg new design, they could do well.
Friend of mine had a Gremlin at one time that he just beat the shit out of on a daily basis, and he held up very well. He bought the full replacement warranty for it when it was brand new (everything on it would be replaced for free within two years), and with a few months to go he blew the motor in it by leaving a brick on the accelerator. Still, he said the motor ran for about 40 minutes before going.
Hillary's "finest hour" was a purdy speech, too.
K-Lo
A totally crazy Saturday-morning thought: Wouldn't George W. Bush make an awesome high-school government teacher? Wouldn't it be something if his post-presidential life would up being that kind of post-service service? How's that for a model? Who needs Harvard visiting chairs and high-end lectures? How about Crawford High? (Or wherever?) Reach out and touch the young before they are jaded, or break them of the cynicism pop culture and possibly their parents have passed down to them. Whatever you think of President Bush, he's a likable guy in love with his country with some history and experience to share.
I apologize - I didn't realize the danger of mentioning Cynthia McKinney.
(But no, Nader isn't the one who came up with his most popular ideas - they were put forward by others, such as Thomas Jefferson, Teddy and FDR, none of whom thought rich people and corporations should be able to oppress the rest of us. They were always liberal ideas.)
So who gave Atrios a vacation? Anyone here guilty?
he blew the motor in it by leaving a brick on the accelerator. Still, he said the motor ran for about 40 minutes before going.
Supreme Commander Thor
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heh, kids.
He makes real purdy speeches, he does...
So, you're voting for McCaint? Nader?
Barr?
you all are making is very, very hard to live up to my pledge of Speaking No Evil of our guy until after nov. very. and i love you for it.
Bitchy gays dish Cynthia Nixon!
And what they do to Hugh Jackman...!
I love this Tina Fey/Scorcese AMEX ad.
A totally crazy Saturday-morning thought: Wouldn't George W. Bush make an awesome high-school government teacher?
Not no, but FUCK NO!
This has been another simple answer to a stupid question.
I apologize - I didn't realize the danger of mentioning Cynthia McKinney.
heh. cynthia always riles things up.
'ats why i love her.
Does anyone have a campaign mistake left that I can bortow today?
As a queer you learn not to expect much from people who claim to like you.
From what I saw yesterday, while Steve Simels and Trademark Dave were expressing the same opinions as Hecate, she was the only one who was called 'bitter.'
Inappropriate.
K-Lo
i really wish i could lay my hands on quality dope like she smokes. that shit must be good.
Whatever you think of President Bush, he's a likable guy in love with his country with some history and experience to share.
What a fucking boob.
So, you're voting for McCaint? Nader?
Barr?
billy b
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A local Hillbot-now-McCainer runs a constant undermine of the DEM candidate. Most recently: a dig at his energy plan because it will cost some money and not be fully effective until, gasp, she is dead and gone. (she does have two teen-aged kids).
Pacers had phatness. Gremlins are just cool-looking in retrospect. If either one of them were revived as a 45 mpg new design, they could do well. According to Wikipedia, Chrysler owns the brand (they've only marketed Jeep since they bought AMC).
Tralfaz
The only buyers that matter are aging boomers who lust after the limited-production Dodge Challenger revival, and are willing to pay $10k over sticker to get one.
Whatever you think of President Bush, he's a likable guy in love with his country with some history and experience to share.
Um, no and, um, no.
Bush is a fucking drunk who's gonna hid for the rest of his life to keep from getting spit upon.
And don't start in on history with this twink . . . "Oh, you have black people, too?"
So, you're voting for McCaint? Nader?
Barr?
Oh, I'm sorry - I should just keep my mouth shut and applaud.
I forgot!
Does anyone have a campaign mistake left that I can bortow today?
John Dubyah McCain | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:38 am |
no worries, dude. just open your mouth and say what comes naturally. you've got real talent, let it loose.
OMG!!!
The HORROR!!!
Thatcher.
From LAT health issues blog - how utterly American....
Kathleen Martinez, 43, is typical of the kind of worker who is most likely to lack paid sick days. The Antioch, Calif., woman works part-time at two low-paying jobs, one as a pizza cook at a grocery store and another at a restaurant. Neither job provides paid sick days and one employer gives her "negative points" for being out sick. If she accrues too many negative points, she says, she'll get fired.
Martinez was fired from her last job because she took all five of her allotted paid sick days plus some unpaid days when her daughter had recurrent ear infections and required surgery to insert ear tubes. She is a single parent and also cares for her mother, who has heart and lung diseases, and her grandmother, 87.
She says she can't afford to lose another job: "I go to work when I have the flu. My bones can be aching, but I am so worried about getting negative points."
Martinez recently discovered she has gynecological cancer, however, and will take a month off to recover from surgery, scheduled for Monday. Even if she doesn't lose her jobs, she worries about the loss in pay.
"I rob Peter to pay Paul," she says. "Whenever I'm sick or my daughter or relatives are sick, it takes me a couple of months to catch up with the bills."
i really wish i could lay my hands on quality dope like she smokes. that shit must be good.
chicago dyke, dogsitter
I've smoked opium in my time and no matter how good that high was, it doesn't even come close to matching what ever fantasies K-Lo is craping out.
You should read my post over at MyBarackTheLivingLegendAndHisHorseSilver or whatever the hell it's called...
dave™© | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:21 am | #
Great idea. Maybe also to the Brady anti-handgun people...
Nader Troll, I am sure McCain killed more people on his bombing runs than Wes Clark did.
Nobody was arguing that.
They most certainly were. Clark's reputation was upheld cause he caught one from the Vietcong on the ground. Are you reading another blog perhaps?
As for the Nader troll part - am I to understand that only Obama supporters are allowed here? Seems kinda - well kinda fac......
As a queer you learn not to expect much from people who claim to like you.
plantsman | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:38 am | #
the nice thing about equality under the law is, it shouldn't MATTER who likes or doesn't like someone.
BTW, what I am going to "do" about Obama's fucking bullshit is this: no fucking money. No support beyond my vote.
If he decides he wants to be a "fighting Dem," great. 'Til then, keep sucking money from the batshit insane fanboys and see how big the checks are from the NASCAR dads and security moms you're playing up to.
Whatever you think of President Bush, he's a likable guy in love with his country with some history and experience to share.
What a fucking boob.
billy b
Hey!
today's netflix: "el che: investigating a legend."
it'll make cleaning, when i finally get around to it, so much more fun.
I do think we ought to slam Obama for slinking to the center. That is our job. His job is to win and to take the country back.
Whatever you think of President Bush, he's a likable guy in love with his country with some history and experience to share.
It's official -- K-Lo, not Doug Feith, is the stupidest motherfucker on the planet.
sheetses!
We've never really had equality under the law, the SCOTUS inscription aside.
Oh, I'm sorry - I should just keep my mouth shut and applaud.
I forgot!
You jammed me with the 'hope' post which had nothing to do with what I'd posted.
You know I wasn't going to let you get away with that.
Hey!
YesWeLikeBoobsaLot
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Fug you
the nice thing about equality under the law is,
this black, gay woman asks: what's that? like "capitalism," i'd like to try it here.
dave™© | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:42 am
Fucking A.
Tragically, the suck is just getting its boots on.
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A totally crazy Saturday-morning thought: Wouldn't George W. Bush make an awesome high-school government teacher?
Not no, but FUCK NO!
He likes clearing brush. I'd give him the job of removing cholla cactus.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/UNujMxO5.jpg
Why would anybody support Nader? You might as well vote for Santa Claus.
Funny that the Hillbots don't see any connection to the recent Clinton maneuverings and that the Obama shift is concurrent to his having to deal her hand in to win.
Poor Obama.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 07.05.08 - 10:40 am
Insurance Companies: "Given the history of medical issues across generations in this family, we are compelled to deny coverage to any of their descendants for the next six generations. At that time, we will review their health status for proof of insurability. We wish them well in battling their numerous maladies."
nice post. glad to see the supportive comments as well. i guess some folks are finally catching on that we're going to have a disappointing uphill battle, again, to keep our democratic president acting like, well, a democrat.
chicago dyke,
Reading the comments over at Greenwald's I'm getting a bit concerned that Obama is gonna have more of an upward battle than need be just getting elected.
Investigate !!!
http://img80.imageshack.us/
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In the meantime, who's investigating the investigators?
Cynthia McKinney completely embarrassed herself. Let's call it for what it was.
"In an interview this week with “Relevant,” a Christian magazine, Obama said prohibitions on late-term abortions must contain “a strict, well defined exception for the health of the mother.” Obama then added: “Now, I don’t think that ‘mental distress’ qualifies as the health of the mother. I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term.”…
Do you see an "MD" after his name that makes him qualified to discuss whether or not mental distress is a health issue.
Cynthia McKinney completely embarrassed herself. pendleton - 1:33 pm
She was savaged by AIPAC who worked overtime for her defeat. Let's call it for what it was: a smear&lie job by the rightwing.
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