I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
aha
So you say.
spinoza is quick.
Well, NAFTA was supposed to be the answer to the European Union.
Oh yes, Eurabia. The place where muslims rule over the selfish and childless Europeans all driving BMWs.
Life there can be lovely. We oughta try that here.
A guy once told me the good thing about the US compared to Europe was that in the US you were free to change jobs anytime.
I just slowly nodded my head.
And these countries are capable of this because their citizens are more likely to trust each other. Unlike the US, where our first assumption is that everyone else is trying to take our stuff.
The Philadelphia Armored Car Killer has an Islamic Sounding name.
The Philadelphia Armored Car Killer has an Islamic Sounding name.
He hates those armored cars!
why iz mah coveralls ahl wet?
It's worth recalling where Europe was in 1945, after a century of horror, and where Eastern Europe was in 1989, after an additional 50 years of Communist rule.
To quote Leonard Bernstein in West Side Story "Free to wait tables and shine shoes!"
He killed 2 security guards in freezing-cold blood.
spinoza is quick.
The quickness to post is measured in a logarithmic scale unit named a mer.
It's worth recalling where Europe was in 1945, after a century of horror, and where Eastern Europe was in 1989, after an additional 50 years of Communist rule.
ProfWombat | 10.06.07 - 1:56 pm | #
And where we are after seven years of Bush
To quote Leonard Bernstein in West Side Story "Free to wait tables and shine shoes!"
plantsman, areligious
Uh Steven Sondheim wrote the lyrics for West Side Story. I know this cause I'm the smartest guy in the Universe (even dead).
Just check my nym.
Book TV Survey 2007
http://www.surveymonkey.com/
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dmark: that's precisely why I raised the point. America can triumph over Bushism, as Europe survived Naziism and Soviet Communism. It can be done. Don't doubt it for a minute.
Hey Albert, speaking of misattribution, can you tell us how much your first wife contributed to your work?
It's worth recalling where Europe was in 1945, after a century of horror, and where Eastern Europe was in 1989, after an additional 50 years of Communist rule.
ProfWombat
They moved Europe? I mean, I know they moved the Alamo into town, but a whole Continent?
can you tell us how much your first wife contributed to your work?
One Nobel Prize proceeds worth?
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ProfWombat, needless to say I was being glib. I agree with you.
For the last 18 month of high school, I lived in Boise, Idaho. Most of my fellow students couldn't find California on a map, much less Europe. And their parents were pretty much OK with that.
A pressure group called (no lie) Shocked Parents, Inc. was formed to get Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" out of the curriculum.
This was admittedly quite a long time ago, but I still count it as my personal front line experience among the 29%.
Not sure what you mean by 'smart', Al. Hilbert, among many others, a better mathematician, and you spent a lot of time in the dead end of unified field theory after your Annus Mirabilis and general relativity. On the other hand, the paper you wrote with Podolsky and Rosen was wonderful, and we're still arguing about it...
But can they have as many handguns and AK47s and grenade launchers as they want?
Because that's the bottom-line definition of freedom.
Hey Albert, speaking of misattribution, can you tell us how much your first wife contributed to your work?
spinoza |
I taught her everything she knew...well at least the stuff that mattered.
"tell me about this Eurabia"-David Broder to Mark Steyn at Piercing Pagoda
Not to drag things back into the mists of theology, but the admonition to take the beam out of one's own eye before venturing to take the splinter out of one's neighbor's eye has never been more pertintent.
Wingnuts of the Amerikan exceptionalist triumphalist imperialist mind(less)-set take this position on every aspect of public life-- internal politics, diplomacy, finance, military action, the whole nine yards.
The neocons became what they beheld, and are the mirror-image of the US Cold Warrior caricature of the Soviet Union back in the heyday of the conflict: insanely xenophobic, bent on world domination, absurdly claiming national credit and domination for superior technological innovation, scientific advancements, and means of production.
For the last 18 month of high school, I lived in Boise, Idaho. Most of my fellow students couldn't find California on a map, much less Europe. And their parents were pretty much OK with that.
A pressure group called (no lie) Shocked Parents, Inc. was formed to get Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" out of the curriculum.
This was admittedly quite a long time ago, but I still count it as my personal front line experience among the 29%.
Left Behind
Yep. My small-town-Alabama social studies teacher was forced to tell us about other places, but maded it CRYSTAL clear that Alabama was the bestest place in the whole wide world.
I live in Yurp. Berlin to be exact. The most open, liberal, free place I've lived since Murka circa '82 (remember Regan?
Hey, it's 'spensive, but damn it's nice.
dmark: I knew you were agreeing with me. I just wanted to make the link to optimism about the future's possibilities, rather than despair over the present's horrors, explicit.
that Alabama was the bestest place in the whole wide world.
For her, it probably was.
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When I visited Yurp in 2005 I wrote about the family friendliness of the place. People actually having vacation time to go out with their children, children and parents everywhere, in restaurants, in parks. Not just children hidden deep inside suburbian homes.
Last Sept. Mrs. Flint and I went to Yellowstone and found ourselves camped near 4 groups of folks from the U.K.
All of them had four weeks of mandatory paid vacation, some had six.
The Wife and I had to head home after ten days in the park.
Not to mention the Healthcare thing.
Lord Jeebus, save us from Euopean socialism!!!!
The information in this WP article contradicts that which Joe Kernan of CNBC regularly presents his audience about economies over there. According to Kernan, Europe has double digit employment, as it is a socialist swamp.
Reposted from dead thread:
Please, allow me to rant a bit on the abject stupidity of the flag you stick in your car door window, to put drag on your vehicle and for the flag itself to be subject to the elements and continue to be fly in tatters in total, abject ignorance of flag etiquette.
Yes, these people are showing such respect.
This crap is all too similar to (oh noes, the ADL will be on my case for this!) flag fetishism in a certain central European country in the thirties and forties, before an armed intervention put a stop to it.
"Mebbe a few of them should actually get a passport."
God forbid...they might learn something.
And learning is elitist.
I would like to be sent to Yurp so that I can do a more in depth study.
Anywhere around the Mediterranean would be fine.
But can they have as many handguns and AK47s and grenade launchers as they want?
No, and it's just terrible. People dying in the streets for want of an Uzi.
And the Euro is nearly worthless...
errata!
Joe Kernan says Europe has double digit UNEMPLOYMENT, as it a socialist swamp.
"SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - A judge Friday reversed his ruling that created new hurdles for some lawyers seeking to visit clients held prisoner at Guantanamo Bay.
District Court Judge Ricardo Urbina in Washington reinstated 16 lawsuits challenging the indefinite confinement of about 40 men held at the military prison on a U.S. base in Cuba.
Last month, Urbina dismissed the petitions of habeas corpus — a ruling that prompted the Department of Justice to warn attorneys for detainees that they would be barred from any contact with their clients unless they filed new challenges and agreed to tighter restrictions on visits and letters.
Attorneys for detainees asked the judge to reconsider the ruling and he did, while noting the Justice Department's move to limit access to the prisoners.
"This court expresses no small concern over the Department of Justice precipitously disrupting petitioners' access to their counsel," Urbina wrote..."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21155459/
Overreaching seems to be their only limit.
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Kakistocracy
kak·is·toc·ra·cy –noun, plural -cies.
Government by the worst persons; a form of government in which the worst persons are in power.
A word that certainly deserves to be used more often.
Last Sept. Mrs. Flint and I went to Yellowstone and found ourselves camped near 4 groups of folks from the U.K.
All of them had four weeks of mandatory paid vacation, some had six.
Flint
For years, five weeks was the minimum allowed in most European countries, and after you had been employed for a certain amount of time, it was six.
The UK dropped it back to 4 (I think during the Thatcher years), and I believe in Germany six is mandatory now.
i volunteer to escort a wingnut around yurp. i have a passport. i'll keep him out of trouble, and enforce some learnin'.
I was afraid Bernstein only wrote the music, but I blanked out on it-- at least I remember Sondheim's words.
errata!
Joe Kernan says Europe has double digit UNEMPLOYMENT, as it a socialist swamp.
Unemployment is measured differently in different countries. The "discouraged workers", those who no longer actively seek, for example, are not counted in the U.S.. I'm not sure what European countries do with that number.
QuentinC-
Thanks for the BookTV survey. I recommended a colleague for In Depth.
The neocons became what they beheld, and are the mirror-image of the US Cold Warrior caricature of the Soviet Union back in the heyday of the conflict: insanely xenophobic, bent on world domination, absurdly claiming national credit and domination for superior technological innovation, scientific advancements, and means of production.
57 Visitors Online | 10.06.07 - 2:03 pm | #
What's the difference between Norman Podhoretz claiming "the Iraq war is a triumph, it couldn't have gone better!" and Nikita Kruschev banging his shoe at the UN?
Not much, it seems...
"Mees Amer-eeca! Speech, Speech!"
Echidne:
they count them!!!
dmark: I knew you were agreeing with me. I just wanted to make the link to optimism about the future's possibilities, rather than despair over the present's horrors, explicit.
ProfWombat | 10.06.07 - 2:04 pm | #
Despair is easy, hope takes work.
Speaking of Europe, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe voted to condemn the teaching of creationism in the schools of its 47 member states. Given the recent public relations campaign by the Discovery Institute and other U.S.-based intelligent design front groups in Turkey and elsewhere on the Continent, the Council's actions couldn't come a moment too soon.
For the story, see:
"EU Lawmakers Reject Creationism, ID in Schools."
The neocons became what they beheld, and are the mirror-image of the US Cold Warrior caricature of the Soviet Union
whenever i go down that line of thinking, i get depressed, to consider where russia is now, and realize that a similar thugocracy is our likely future/present.
Despair is easy, hope takes work.
This is the next thing I will embroider on a sofa pillow.
There's a way to get to Europe without a passport.
But it's not a way that any of the fucktard wingnuts will ever avail themselves of.
It's called enlisting in the Armed Forces and being stationed in Europe, with occaisional field trips to the Iraqi Oil Protectorate.
echidne, the report of new jobs' creation includes the sidelight yesterday that unemployment went up 'because workers returned to job searching' - yay.
true conversation i once had with some residents of dansville, ny:
me: so, is your family from here originally?
her: oh, no. my parents came over from warsaw.
me: cool, have you been back there?
him: yeah, we went back a couple of years ago to meet some of her family.
her: but it's an awful long drive.
him: especially in winter. rt 19 is a bear when it snows.
Echidne, I'm flattered.
Hope can be going to one's mailbox, and finding that a lovely Eschatonian has sent you Fresh Hatch Green Chilies.
America can triumph over Bushism, as Europe survived Naziism and Soviet Communism. It can be done. Don't doubt it for a minute.
ProfWombat
Shame we still have folks here who think Bushism is Da Bomb and that there IS no other way to live.
Suggesting that a country's foreign policy can be affected by a small percentage of the population: the wingers say that's anti-Semitism when the country is the US, but it's their standard analysis of Yurp.
Yurp: The (new) New World
The neocons became what they beheld, and are the mirror-image of the US Cold Warrior caricature of the Soviet Union
Honestly, I think it's more the Nazis. It's as if they all saw the Star Trek episode where some misguided federation guy sets up a whole planet's culture around Nazism because of its "efficiency" (something Spock was wrong about, btw).
No room for weakness! We deserve to rule because we are superior!
The self-destruction of the Republican Party is well underway.
Shame we still have folks here who think Bushism is Da Bomb and that there IS no other way to live.
Apparently. some of the republican presidential candidates are holding on to his apron strings. They agreed with his veto of SCHIP!
Weird.
No room for weakness! We deserve to rule because we are superior!
Left Behind | 10.06.07 - 2:15 pm | #
Sieg Heil, y'all
America can triumph over Bushism, as Europe survived Naziism and Soviet Communism. It can be done. Don't doubt it for a minute.
ProfWombat
Shame we still have folks here who think Bushism is Da Bomb and that there IS no other way to live.
A lot of die-hard Nazis committed suicide when it was clear that the dream was over.
I doubt very much anything like that will happen in the U.S.
Yeah, it's true that the Nazi state was anything BUT efficient. Well, they were efficient at breaking into your home at 2 AM to drag you down to Gestapo HQ so Major Hoffstetter could interogate you about what you know about goings on at LuftStalag 13 but other than that...
Dear Larry Craig:
You want a lesson in guts and forthrightness?
Watch Marion Jones' TV statement about her drug use yesterday.
A lot of die-hard Nazis committed suicide when it was clear that the dream was over.
I doubt very much anything like that will happen in the U.S.
We can hope. Suddenly, the boards at FreeRepublic are silent.
The self-destruction of the Republican Party is well underway.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:15 pm | #
A wounded animal is the most dangerous.
The amount of damage the Repugs can do while imploding is damn near infinite...
Sweet!
The Current just played Northern Sky, by Nick Drake, for my dear Zapette!
I played that song on guitar for her on our wedding day.
Everybody come to Yurp for a while. Revitalize. Relearn what democracy feels like (yah, with a lot of its own problems, sure!). Spend six months here, blow the rainy day money, find out why you're an American. They learned a helleva lot from us.
If the Nazis hadn't attacked the rest of the world and lost WWII, wonder how they would have wound down. I think that's what we're seeing happen now here, if only no attack on Iran is to come.
A lot of die-hard Nazis committed suicide when it was clear that the dream was over.
I doubt very much anything like that will happen in the U.S.
Of course not. Most of them are or would be draft dodgers. "Chickenhawk" is way too nice a word to describe these scum.
They learned a helleva lot from us.
Many things that we promptly forgot.
A lot of die-hard Nazis committed suicide when it was clear that the dream was over.
I doubt very much anything like that will happen in the U.S.
Marcellina | 10.06.07 - 2:16 pm |
They were committed to an ideal. Our home grown nazi's are only committed to themselves.
Doesn't a lapel pin work as a passport?
I doubt very much anything like that will happen in the U.S.
Marcellina
But we can keep hoping....
Really, these ideas are zombies. Dead, but still wandering around eating brains.
Doesn't a lapel pin work as a passport?
Only if it has an RFID chip in it.
A lot of die-hard Nazis committed suicide when it was clear that the dream was over.
I doubt very much anything like that will happen in the U.S.
Of course not. Most of them are or would be draft dodgers. "Chickenhawk" is way too nice a word to describe these scum.
Left Behind
I wonder how many will be Bush deniers?
App to DH, the Nazis were extremely efficient in making profits off their victims. Jews were required to pay all sorts of fees for every little thing, then deported, killed, and the family back home (if there still was one) got a BILL for his internment and, later, for his cremation.
Then the business with recycling victim's clothing, belongings, down to their teeth and hair... oh, they were very efficient at that.
I wonder how many will be Bush deniers?
Terry C - Edwards/Kuchinich 08 | 10.06.07 - 2:19 pm | #
I vas nefa a booshie!
A lot of die-hard Nazis committed suicide when it was clear that the dream was over.
I doubt very much anything like that will happen in the U.S.
They will just sit around in the Heritage Foundation building, the furniture old and tattered. No electricity. No more bagels and coffee. And they will be like old soviet apparatchik cronies recalling the great days of Uncle Karl.
The self-destruction of the Republican Party is well underway.
True, but they're talking heads are already spreading the meme that 2008 is going to be an extremely close election and that Ohio, Florida, and New Jersey will be crucial.
When it comes to the GOP -- distrust and verify.
Writing from Berlin during a business trip to a few destinations in Germany. First time here, and it is an unbelievably nice city. Public transit goes everywhere, is fast, clean and quiet, and runs on time.
Get off the plane in Frankfurt, and walk to high speed trains to anywhere, then connect to little trams to villages in the forest. Tram stops at hiking trails!
Friendly people, great beer, good economy and a national health plan. Oh yeah, there going down the tubes real fast.
John Mellencamp wrote a song about the Jena, LA 6, and now the mayor of Jena is pissed off about it.
Excuse me, the white kids in your town thought they could claim a "whites-only tree" at a public High School in 2007?
A pressure group called (no lie) Shocked Parents, Inc. was formed to get Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" out of the curriculum.
This was admittedly quite a long time ago, but I still count it as my personal front line experience among the 29%.
Left Behind
I wonder how many of those parents READ it.
Or did their preacher tell them it was bad?
BTW:
Your AIPAC buddies at work:
The University of St. Thomas has come under fire from faculty members, students and others for opposing a campus visit by Nobel Peace Prize laureate Desmond Tutu.
St. Thomas has received requests to reconsider its decision and the situation will be discussed next week with the Rev. Dennis Dease, the university's president, said Doug Hennes, a university spokesman.
In a statement Friday, Dease defended his decision to oppose a plan by a local group to invite the South African cleric and activist in April. University officials earlier this week cited a speech that Tutu gave in 2002.
"I spoke with Jews for whom I have a great respect," Dease said. "What stung these individuals was not that Archbishop Tutu criticized Israel, but how he did so, and the moral equivalencies that they felt he drew between Israel's policies and those of Nazi Germany, and between Zionism and racism."
Gromit! Where are you staying in Berlin?
(No, I'm not coming up, don't worry.) 
Them people talk funny.
And there unamerkin.
There's a scene in Downfall where they show Mrs. Goebbels writing a letter to her soldier son telling him that she's going to kill his brothers and sisters because "she can't imagine them living a a world without national socialism".
I wonder if he survived the war.
If he did I hope he hated her until the day he died.
Tweety's remark about how we'd all be under a parking lot if a guy like Cheney had been in charge during the Cuban Missile Crisis was perfect.
If we are not all under a parking lot by this time next year, I believe we will bury these soulless assholes for at least a generation. No shoe pounding on the table required.
Writing from Berlin during a business trip to a few destinations in Germany. First time here, and it is an unbelievably nice city. Public transit goes everywhere, is fast, clean and quiet, and runs on time.
...And the busses used to have bears pictured on them - and Germans don't "queue up" when boardig busses.
Hope can be going to one's mailbox, and finding that a lovely Eschatonian has sent you Fresh Hatch Green Chilies.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:14 pm |
From Phoenix?
Of course, the American media always fails to define how unemployment is defined in Europe, which is general, differs from US criteria in the following respects:
a) school leavers are considered unemployed and receive assistance
b) part time workers are not considered employed
c) eligibility for unemployment assistance is longer, which means unemployment rate is truer reflection of labor activity
Gromit, they're just keeping up a good front. You know they're really desperate.
Like say, the lame ducks in the WH.
Friendly people, great beer, good economy and a national health plan. Oh yeah, there going down the tubes real fast.
Gromit | 10.06.07 - 2:21 pm | #
Don't you know they have high taxes which stifle all their initiative?
From Basha's in Phoenix.
oh, they were very efficient at that.
Marcellina
I worked on the Jewish Names Project a few years ago. Taking scanned images of the original lists of people arrested and sent to concentration camps, running through an OCR process, and then comparing the originals to the database.
You'd think this would be a sterile exercise, but it was actually pretty wrenching. Reading the names and ages of the people, whole families, old folks, children, assigned a number and wiped off the face of the earth. I cried a lot.
Really damned good record keepers.
Sweet!
The Current just played Northern Sky, by Nick Drake, for my dear Zapette!
I played that song on guitar for her on our wedding day.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:18 pm |
Your anniversary is coming up, is it not?
Hi Gromit,
yeah, I live in Berlin. Love the city. Love its ever-present history, including all the openly exposed ugly, ugly Nazi scars, love its unfinishedness, its contradictions, its reality. And its real palpable sense of freedom (and great public transport.) Hell, it feels like the America (minus the great public transport) that I grew up in.
App to DH, the Nazis were extremely efficient in making profits off their victims.
Yeah, Marcellina, but the profits went back into their pockets, not into the war effort.
Which makes them remarkably similar to outfits like Halliburtion and Blackwater.
HBK,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har...i/
Harald_Quandt
Marcellina-- Staying at the Movenpick hotel, right beside the Anhalter Banhof S-bahn stop.
From Basha's in Phoenix.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:24 pm
Sent by a certain historian?
Oh yeah, there going down the tubes real fast.
Gromit | 10.06.07 - 2:21 pm | #
that's cause they don't have speed limits.
Don't you know they have high taxes which stifle all their initiative?
Yes, all their initiative to plunder their own companies for their personal greed.
They need that if they want to be anything but wretched peasants.
Sent by a certain historian?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I don't see how she could be any nicer a person. I just don't see it.
The thing is, for all our faults, American workers are some of the most productive on Earth. It's the crap we and Bushco have spent it on.
him: especially in winter. rt 19 is a bear when it snows.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:13 pm | #
Maybe they meant this place? Doesn't mean they ever have heard of the other one, of course.
Reminds me of conversation I overheard between two 20-somethings in an elevator at St. Vincent's Hospital:
He: "So you notice they don't have a button for the 13th floor."
She: "So, then how do you get there?"
"Don't you know they have high taxes which stifle all their initiative?"
Well, with the exchange rate, I figured gas was about $8.00 per gallon
Yeah, Marcellina, but the profits went back into their pockets, not into the war effort.
Which makes them remarkably similar to outfits like Halliburtion and Blackwater.
Efficient, still, if misdirected.
Sent by a certain historian?
Absolutely, an historian who has been thanked by direct email, and responded.
For the last 18 month of high school, I lived in Boise, Idaho. Most of my fellow students couldn't find California on a map, much less Europe. And their parents were pretty much OK with that.
A pressure group called (no lie) Shocked Parents, Inc. was formed to get Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" out of the curriculum.
This was admittedly quite a long time ago, but I still count it as my personal front line experience among the 29%.
Left Behind
And who now wonders why they ended up with Larry Craig. Karmic consequences of cherishing ignorance.
Harald, apparently, wasn't Joseph Goebbels' son.
Johanna Maria Magdalena Goebbels, First Lady of the Third Reich and wife of Propaganda Minister and Gauleiter of Berlin, Joseph Goebbels. In 1930 she divorced her first husband, millionaire Gunter Quandt, from whom she was granted the custody of their son, Harald, four thousand marks monthly allowance and fifty-thousand marks to purchase a house. She eventually leased a seven room luxury top floor apartment at 2, Adolf Hitler Platz, (Later Reichskanzler Platz, now Theodore Heuss Platz) in Charlottenburg, Berlin. She became secretary to Goebbels whom she married on December 12, 1931. In the Bunker with Hitler during the last days of the war, she committed the unpardonable sin of poisoning her six children, Helga, Hilda, Helmut, Holde, Hedda and Heide. SS Doctor Kunz gave the children an injection of morphine to help them sleep but could not face up the act of giving poison to the sleeping children. Hitler's personal physician, Dr Stumpfegger, was called in and he, with the help of Magda, opened the mouths of the children and slipped an ampoule of cyanide between their teeth. Magda and her husband then committed suicide in the garden of the Reich Chancellery. A great admirer of Hitler, she decided to name all her children with a name beginning with H. Earlier, Magda had confided to her trusted friend, her sister-in-law, Ello Quandt, "In the days to come Joseph will be regarded as one of the greatest criminals Germany has ever produced. The children will hear that daily, people would torment them, despise and humiliate them. We will take them with us, they are too good, too lovely for the world which lies ahead".
Madga's stepfather, Richard Friedlaender, whom her mother, Auguste Behrend, had divorced when she was young, was Jewish. He was arrested and imprisoned in the Buchenwald concentration camp where he died a year later, in 1939. Prior to his suicide, Hitler named Joseph Goebbels to succeed him as German Chancellor. He held the position for only one day before he committed suicide together with his wife and six children.
The thing is, for all our faults, American workers are some of the most productive on Earth. It's the crap we and Bushco have spent it on.
I am beginning to question that. As far as I can tell, the most productive workers in the US may in large part be illegal aliens.
Your anniversary is coming up, is it not?
Tomorrow.
Life there can be lovely. We oughta try that here.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 1:54 pm | #
Why settle for mere lovely when we can choose dark, dismal and devoid of compassion.
Blackwater=Blackshirt
Tweedles-- I've really appreciated all of the little historical signs around Berlin, especially around the east-west border where I'm staying. Amazing to learn about buildings that have been used successively by the prussians, replic, nazis, communists, and the current government.
There was a bit of condensation in the plastic bags, so I'm airing them out. In a bit, I'll roast and peel them, and make the chili.
Tomorrow.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:29 pm | #
What one? Mrs d and I hit 19 last month.
Is it me, or has BookTV gone downhill?
About the Program
"Caucus of Corruption" takes aim at the current Democratic Congress, giving examples of corruption and abuses of power involving Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Rahm Emmanuel, Chuck Schumber, Jon Corzine, and others.
About the Authors
Author About the Author Book Title
Matt Margolis
Matt Margolis is the founder of Blogs for Bush and currently runs several blogs. He is an architectural designer and is pursuing a master's degree in architecture. Caucus of Corruption: The Truth about the New Democratic Majority
Mark Noonan
Mark Noonan is a regular contributor to Blogs for Bush and is the founder of a political blog called Battle Born Politics. He also blogs at GOP Bloggers.
It's worth recalling where Europe was in 1945, after a century of horror, and where Eastern Europe was in 1989, after an additional 50 years of Communist rule.
ProfWombat | 10.06.07 - 1:56 pm | #
And recalling this can only give us hope for this childish and violent republic that fashions itself an empire. We may yet mature as a nation.
Maybe they meant this place? Doesn't mean they ever have heard of the other one, of course.
actually, this one which is only about a half hour away. which is about as far as they traveled.
another good one was the dansville resident who wouldn't go into "the city" to shop because she was afraid of the criminal element. i thought it was pretty funny that she equated rochester to nyc - until i found out she meant hornell.
What one? Mrs d and I hit 19 last month.
Awww. Congrats!
This is our first.
I love Berlin. I would move there in a hearbeat!
OLYMPIA, Wash. A sharply divided state Supreme Court ruled yesterday that a law which bars political candidates from deliberately making false statements about their opponents violates the First Amendment right of free speech.rnrnIn a 5-4 decision, the high court affirmed a state Court of Appeals ruling that overturned the law. The measure was enacted by the Legislature in 1999, a year after a similar ban on false statements involving initiatives and other ballot measures was thrown out by the state Supreme Court.
This is our first.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:32 pm | #
Awww, newlyweds.
I knew a few people in N. VA who would not go into D.C. because it was dangerous - had never taken their kids to the Smithsonian. Sad.
The thing is, for all our faults, American workers are some of the most productive on Earth. It's the crap we and Bushco have spent it on.
Much of that productivity is being siphoned off by the parasite class.
"Tweety's remark about how we'd all be under a parking lot if a guy like Cheney had been in charge during the Cuban Missile Crisis was perfect."
Can you imagine?
The U.S. needs a grassroots revolution which will spawn a third party based on the well being of the working and middle classes. Unfortunately, the two parties currently in power will never even approach this utopian idea.
Despair is easy, hope takes work.
dmark
Looking back is death, forward is infinite possibilities. Time is an arrow, and all we really have is now and the future. Buddhism calls this mindset "Ho'nin-myo." Not an attitude, it's a happy way of life.
What do you want to create now, in the next moment of time?
Oh, so intentional lying is covered by the First Amendment; in Washington, at least.
I was in Berlin a few years back, an interlude during a longer trip to Paris. It was funny to directly compare the two, especially the subways (much better music in Berlin).
The neocons became what they beheld, and are the mirror-image of the US Cold Warrior caricature of the Soviet Union back in the heyday of the conflict: insanely xenophobic, bent on world domination, absurdly claiming national credit and domination for superior technological innovation, scientific advancements, and means of production.
Heinz 57 Visitors Online | 10.06.07 - 2:03 pm | #
Is that you Teresa? Does John approve of you posting?
What do you want to create now, in the next moment of time?
under the radar | 10.06.07 - 2:34 pm | #
i created a poem:
Patriot or terrorist,
if we only could tell
By whether a flag is
pinned to the lapel.
Newsmen would rather
dwell on banalities
than focus upon the
important realities.
And so we can see
to the media's chagrin
how many assholes can dance
on the head of a pin.
Gromin,
just enjoy the place!!! Go to the dome at the top of the Reichstag. The view is spectacular (the wait on a good day under half an hour), and the photo display at the start of the ramp is a great intro to German history 1898 to 2007.
By the way, please note that the whole center of German government doesn't look like a fucking bunker. (Compare to DC.)
I like yer Ketchup, Tur-Ray-Zuh!
There's no good football teams in Yurp.
Gromit, don't bother with the Television tower (the cafe up there is crappy.)
Where else will you be visiting?
A typical CNBC viewer after spending a few weeks listening to Joe Kernan, Larry Kudlow et al, would have the mistaken impession that the European Economic Community was on the verge of imploding.
What would we do on Sunday in Yurp?
The big problem you have in the US is the media. They whole right wing talk radio shit is fucking your country up.
There's no good football teams in Yurp.
Gomez | 10.06.07 - 2:37 pm | #
that's 'coz they aren't allowed to use their hands.
very hard on the quarter back.
Abends im Berlin, Stunden in der Kneipe....Schoen!
There's no good football teams in Yurp.
Whaddya talking about?
The Frankfurt Dragons rocked my world during the World Football League's reign!!
Football or futból?
I knew a few people in N. VA who would not go into D.C. because it was dangerous - had never taken their kids to the Smithsonian. Sad.
Ruth
Wow. That's just a tragedy.
What would we do on Sunday in Yurp?
Everyone here in Tirol goes for long afternoon walks in the hills.
Next month, they'll all be skiing.
fussball.
As far as I can tell, the most productive workers in the US may in large part be illegal aliens.
__________________________________________
Or extraterrestrial aliens.
Football or futból?
HoneyBearKelly
Real Football, with helmets and cheerleaders.
The big problem you have in the US is the media. The whole right wing talk radio shit is fucking your country up.
sally
No argument there, sally.
Problem is, we have people who are too lazy to think for themselves and believe everything the media tell them.
A wounded animal is the most dangerous.
The amount of damage the Repugs can do while imploding is damn near infinite...
steve simels | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:18 pm | #
We need to be vigilant over the next 2 years.
Productivity in my experience has been fewer workers doing more work for same salary or less.
What would you eat in Yurp?
Do they haz donuts?
Is that you Teresa? Does John approve of you posting?
Dubya
Approval?
She don't need no steenkin' approval!
Hate has revealed itself as useless as a governing strategy -- it had its time, but that time is past.
A wounded animal is the most dangerous.
if it's inevitable, sometimes the best thing to do is put it down before it causes more damage.
What would you eat in Yurp?
Do they haz donuts?
Gomez
Sure; JFK was one, one time.
Switzerland and Austria are co-hosting the European Soccer Championship next summer, with some early games in Innsbruck. Unfortunately I missed out on the lottery, but I can see the edge of the outside of the stadium from my balcony, so I'll hear the roars.
Sure; JFK was one, one time.
V for Virginia | 10.06.07 - 2:42 pm | #
mmmmmm ... jelly filled!
Haggard escort says he was visited by Craig
Ja, ein Berliner is similar to a donut.
Terry C, I see a lot of hope in the media beginning to cut thru the lies. Today, Jim Hoagland, yesterday Eugene Robinson.
(see http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/ )
Not possible to go on being lied to.
Oh, sweet Jeebus!
I like the light rail here in town, but I wouldn't write a song about it.
How embarrassing.
I hear everyone wears hats in Yurp.
Tranquilizer-dart guns for the DC Police!
Gomez, Berlin has Dunkin Donuts, on the Ku'damm and at Potzdamer Platz.
Otherwise you're stuck with the McDonalds variety.
But who needs donuts when you can have exquisite yurpeen pastries??
I'm gonna head out to the sales floor and catch the second half of the Badger game. See if they can pull a win out of their asses. Catch you all later.
Worst. Blogwhorer. Ever.
Almost as bad as Swan.
Real Football, with helmets and cheerleaders.
That's why they invented satellite tv.
atrios has posted 3 threads on neocon pledge pins just for me...
speaking of anniverseries, mrs g and i will hit 30 next year and want to go to yurp for the first time.
london, paris, florence, or berlin? we probably won't be able to go again for another 30 years.
VforVA, especially sad when you have so much that's the sort of thing your children should have as part of their education. Mine, naturally, got sick to death of seeing all the parks and natural stuff, but never tired of the Smithsonian.
German cheesecake is serious.
Too bad all the local mom & pop shops have been closed in NYC.
There was this German bakery in Yorkville that had the best cakes and pastries.
Now there's some unpainted furniture place there.
The neocons became what they beheld, and are the mirror-image of the US Cold Warrior caricature of the Soviet Union
Simply because they seem utterly incapable of self-reflection, introspection, which is a far too scary idea to even contemplate.
No concept of how the universal law of cause and effect operates in their own lives, let alone the lives of all others.
I visited Europe in '63. A paradise of diversity and natural balance.
Italy then.
But...they don't have the Bill of Rights over there.
Worst. Blogwhorer. Ever.
Almost as bad as Swan.
Zap Rowsdower
Always with the stuff we've been over the day before.
(yawn)
london, paris, florence, or berlin?
All of the above?
How comfortable are you in places where there's a language barrier?
Gomez,
the German constitution starts with its Bill of Rights.
Hey, we helped them write it. They got it right.
Hokay, getting ready to head into NYC for my traditional Saturday evening of swilling elitist Chardonnay blah blah blah you know the drill.
I won't be here again until much later this evening, and I expect to be trashed, so be kind to me.
What do you want to create now, in the next moment of time?
under the radar | 10.06.07 - 2:34 pm | #
I want to creat a society that values all things and people....that sees the worth of everyone.
dirk gently, they're all great, but Italy especially.
Hello from Yurp moonbats
Actually, for sheer beauty, relaxation, and good weather I vote Florence. But take some day trips into Tuscany and other points.
Italians are friendly to strangers.
london, paris, florence, or berlin? we probably won't be able to go again for another 30 years.
Hard to pick one. I think the way things are now, Florence may be the cheapest? You'll eat best in Paris, though.
(Hope that doesn't start a flame war)
Sent by a certain historian?
Absolutely, an historian who has been thanked by direct email, and responded.
plantsman, areligious | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:28 pm
I may have to send her an order for the chiles, I have people here who rather liked the batch from last year.
What do you want to create now, in the next moment of time?
under the radar
A chocolate sundae.
and i'm on welfare, Jobseekers Allowance
a wingnut nightmare!
london, paris, florence, or berlin? we probably won't be able to go again for another 30 years.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:45 pm | #
Dirk, Mrs d and I went to London and Paris for our honeymoon. We had a great time in London, but if you are limited to one, Paris is a fantastic place to visit. Literally every street holds something new to see. We spoke no French, but had few problems in getting around.
Now I'm off to football.
How comfortable are you in places where there's a language barrier?
Marcellina | 10.06.07 - 2:46 pm | #
no problem woth language barriers. i speak english! - and a little spanish. and i can understand the gist of italian. but seriously, it doesn't bother either of us.
we'll probably only have 10 days, so there's no way we'll get to go everywhere we want. which is why moscow isn't on the list - priorities.
and i'm on welfare, Jobseekers Allowance
a wingnut nightmare!
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker
Do you have a Cadillac?
and i'm on welfare, Jobseekers Allowance
a wingnut nightmare!
You lazy welfare queen!!
tweedles & Marcellina-- Have mostly been working, but have been taking various walking routes between hotel and meeting site with long er walks in evening, then taking the train back when I get tired. So, I've seen lots of places to the east of the Tiergarden from the outside, and hope come back with Mrs Gromit for a holiday visit.
I didn't go into the Reichstag dome, but the idea of a dome with a public ram and view down into the parliament where the public could watch the government seemed quite inspirational.
Oh, and a local grad student took me to Fassbender & Rausch chocolates, so I have presents to bring home.
How comfortable are you in places where there's a language barrier?
Marcellina
Fine, as long as I have the international solvent.
It's nearly 90 degrees in Chicago. Going out to Ginas for an Italian Ice.
Back soon.
I think for most conservative commentators they lack knowledge of European politics and its history
what I mean is you can't very well apply your American lens when talking about European politics and vice versa
because of the different historical paths and a major factor being large scale workers movements
Shame we still have folks here who think Bushism is Da Bomb and that there IS no other way to live.
Terry C - Edwards/Kuchinich 08
Nah. There's always gonna be the 29% who, no matter what is happening, will cling to their utterly self-destructive lifestyles. Education is the key.
They need our patient, compassionate help. We all create our own sufferings, and we are all capable of lifting ourselves out of it as well.
I do that by practicing Buddhism.
'the mirror-image of the US Cold Warrior caricature of the Soviet Union '
Walmart is like those dreary soviet-style department stores they were always ranting about. Badly-made goods; harsh lighting: unkempt and dirty floors; ill-clad, discouraged people standing in line.
I knew a few people in N. VA who would not go into D.C. because it was dangerous - had never taken their kids to the Smithsonian. Sad.
Ruth
Wow. That's just a tragedy.
V for Virginia | 10.06.07 - 2:39 pm
When I was growing up in suburban Chicago in the 70's Dad and Mom felt it was their parental duty to take us to the city as often as possible. And, gasp! we used public transport.
and everytime a fellow Brit whines about how crappy the NHS is, I like to remind them that we would be in a much worse state without it
people become so ungrateful
The major difference between bushco and the third reich is that one group wears suits while the other wore uniforms. bush and his cronies have had as much front line experience as hitler and his hoarde------none.
we'll probably only have 10 days, so there's no way we'll get to go everywhere we want. which is why moscow isn't on the list - priorities.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
The Eurostar is a wonderful thing, central London to central Paris in about two hours, IIRC. I've had good luck getting hotel deals through American Airlines reservations (aa.com, with lots of time in advance) and American Express travel.
two of my kids studied abroad - on went to italy and visited paris, the other went to avignon and visited italy.
both had wonderful times. i think we'll do something similar. this will be in may, btw. we hope.
hell jobseekers allowance/benefits is a moral economic thing
because when you lose your job, you have little means to support yourself, because its not like you own a farm and can grow food
Vulgar libertarian fuckheads need to accept that the Welfare State we know today is the price paid for land enclosures
they only know half their political history, which makes most of their arguments be complete bollocks, their narrow minded view and fucking ignorance
From Florence you can take trips to Siena and Perugia, and even plan in 2 or 3 days in Rome if you want. It's all good!
Oh, and a local grad student took me to Fassbender & Rausch chocolates, so I have presents to bring home.
Gromit | 10.06.07 - 2:51 pm
for all of us?
speaking of anniverseries, mrs g and i will hit 30 next year and want to go to yurp for the first time.
london, paris, florence, or berlin? we probably won't be able to go again for another 30 years.
dirk gently
For an anniversary? None of the above. I highly recommend a jaunt to the Cote d'Azur.
Fly into Nice, get a car, and wander around in the hills: Mougins, St. Paul de Vence, Antibes, Valbonne, Mandelieu.
They need our patient, compassionate help.
Actually, I'd prefer they be WHO's next project, now they've dealt with smallpox.
we'll probably only have 10 days, so there's no way we'll get to go everywhere we want. which is why moscow isn't on the list - priorities.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:50 pm
What about warm and sandy, like Iraq?
Gromit,
come back, bring the Mrs, bring everybody you know. It's a fun place for tourists, and it's a real city, you can touch and taste both. Berlin's (gay) mayor says: We're poor but we're sexy.
The major difference between bushco and the third reich is that one group wears suits while the other wore uniforms.
i believe that is where the lapel pins come in
Can I carry a gun over in Yurp?
dirk, you have to bring your wife to Paris at least once in her life. very romantic city.
Moonbootica -- Unless you have $50,000 to $100,000 in student loans you have to pay back, you can't really consider yourself educated.
"Walmart is like those dreary soviet-style department stores they were always ranting about. Badly-made goods; harsh lighting: unkempt and dirty floors; ill-clad, discouraged people standing in line."
What's more, leading figures of the Movement, such as Paul Gigot and Bret Stephens, have nominated Wal Mart Management for the Presidential Medal of Freedom on numerous occasions.
Buckeye, how great, and there used to be a train that you could take in to Dallas from here, it's gone now - but we're getting back to the public transport age, a communter bus and light rail DART, it's possible again now.
Can I carry a gun over in Yurp?
Gomez
they only know half their political history,
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker
You're too generous. They know selected fact-like items and some cliches.
Alan Johnson, the health secretary, alarmed health unions yesterday by opening up a new market for the management of NHS services worth up to Ł70bn.
He approved a list of 14 private companies that would be available to help primary care trusts in England evaluate the health needs of local people and buy appropriate services. If the trials succeed, the companies may influence the commissioning of services ranging from family planning to chiropody.
The firms include four big US healthcare corporations: Aetna, Humana, Health Dialog Services and UnitedHealth, the Minneapolis-based company whose European division is headed by Tony Blair's former senior health adviser.
The Department of Health said the companies would offer trusts "a bank of specialist expertise". They would be able to analyse data identifying local health problems and negotiate cost-effective contracts with NHS and private sector providers. The trusts control most of the NHS's Ł90bn annual budget.
http://society.guardian.co.uk/
he...2185057,00.html
i believe that is where the lapel pins come in
Nazi Party members wore their membership pins on their uniforms and suits at all times.
nice may be nice, but if we're only going once i'm more of a big city tourist than a hill wanderer.
there are hundreds of places we'd like to go, but we don't want to rush around from one to another. so we'll most likely pick two or three and spend a few days in each.
What about warm and sandy, like Iraq?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Too much like Indiana.
you can carry guns in some places in Europe, with a permit. Switzerland has very liberal gun laws. It's the ammunition you can't find.
dirk, you have to bring your wife to Paris at least once in her life. very romantic city.
mimi | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:57 pm | #
anyplace mrs g is is very romantic.
nice may be nice, but if we're only going once i'm more of a big city tourist than a hill wanderer.
there are hundreds of places we'd like to go, but we don't want to rush around from one to another. so we'll most likely pick two or three and spend a few days in each.
dirk gently
Then, from your list, Paris. Although Prague should be on your list as well.
the welfare state is basically a corrective measure for the flaws of Capitalism, providing something which Capitalism can't
dirk gently, a Eurailpass can mean nights on a very lovely train - and next day in a city of your choice.
dirk fwiw me and the mrs. went to italy 10 years ago from usa. spent several days in roma (awesome), had a car and drove through tuscany over 3 days 2 nights to florence, staying in lovely villages each night. dropped the car in firenze and hung there for a few days before train back to roma. could have added a trip to venice but didn't have time. if you have time, take a berlitz italian class for a few weeks and you'll hve more fun.
"for all of us?"
Have you been good?
What about warm and sandy, like Iraq?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.06.07 - 2:57 pm | #
we have a warm and sandy destination in mind. sicily.
dirk--I vote for Rome. If you're in it for a city, I say Rome is best in all ways. And I'd still get a car and go driving around coast cities to get lost...
then dirk, I would stick to the choices you made, London, Paris and Florence, and then decide which ones of those really appeal to you.
Personally, I would throw Rome in there too, but only because I am such a history buff.
a law which bars political candidates from deliberately making false statements about their opponents
_________________________________________
To me, this law is in the class of phenomena that may be really, really appealing at first blush, but don't make much sense upon reflection-- like those stupid Baby on Board signs that briefly overtook the world in the mid-1980s.
Apart from the thorny issue of how problematic the law would be to enforce, what does it say about the essential integrity of an electoral process if it's implied that candidates will readily slander and deliberately misrepresent the personality and actions of opponents unless restrained by legal sanctions?
It's one thing to establish rules of the road for the general public and the common welfare, and put up signs warning against littering or speeding.
But trying to safeguard the integrity of the political process by criminalizing it undermines the very process intended to be enhanced; it seems a fatal paradox.
dirk, you have to bring your wife to Paris at least once in her life. very romantic city.
mimi | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 2:57 pm
Even my wingnut boss and her wingnut family love Paris.
I want to creat a society that values all things and people....that sees the worth of everyone.
Shared Humanity
Spread the magnificence and appreciation of who you already are in your immediate environment, because you already live there!
Peace is living in the possibility, rather than the complaint. You are a worthy Bodhisattva!
providing something which Capitalism can't
Moonbootica,
Capitalism, like God, provides everything. if it doesn't provide it then it is not necessary.
Tal Afar stil not recovered from being Chimpy's showpiece city
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.ph...14455&
Itemid=21
I have survived the Vista upgrade unscathed.
So there.
What about warm and sandy, like Iraq?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Too much like Indiana.
V for Virginia | 10.06.07 - 2:59 pm |
Indiana Dunes is exactly like Fallujah.
European Journal on PBS did a gun law story back in the 1980's. One place where it seemed anybody could have a gun was Yugoslavia. They even showed a wedding custom where it was traditional for the guests to fire their pistols into the air.
it's implied that candidates will readily slander and deliberately misrepresent the personality and actions of opponents unless restrained by legal sanctions?
About as much as it implies that we would all be murderers unless restrained by legal sanctions.
Well, I thought I was gonna take a chore break in here for a few minutes, but the children found me, so I'm off to put food on them.
Unless I can get a sitter, I'm sure I'll be back in here later...
Although Prague should be on your list as well.
jac | 10.06.07 - 3:00 pm | #
sigh. prague too.
fwiw, i'm mostly italian (3rd gen) so that has a lot of draw for me. but on dad's side, the family used to have a castle in england (corfe) and mrs g is of anglo heritage.
thanks for all the input - still a few months before we make solid plans, but i'm thinking primarily italy and france.
and maybe we'll sleep on moon's sofa one night
What about warm and sandy, like Iraq?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 10.06.07 - 2:57 pm | #
we have a warm and sandy destination in mind. sicily.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:01 pm |
Adriatic coast is nice. Visit Montenegro before the Russians buy the coastline.
Unless I can get a sitter, I'm sure I'll be back in here later...
whiskey girl | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:04 pm
shoot.
a little sip of whiskey is almost worse than no whiskey at all.
Must be off.
Do Not Trust Dying Administrations.
see http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
I have survived the Vista upgrade unscathed.
So there.
attaturk
Fuck off, Jack - I will NOT let you namesteal Attaturk. We had too much fun back before he committed Vistacide, and you will NOT mock him.
I have survived the Vista upgrade unscathed.
So there.
attaturk | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:02 pm | #
Good!
Even my wingnut boss and her wingnut family love Paris.
Buckeye,
Last time I was in Paris, I was in a restaurant next to two older Merkin couples, and one of the husbands was desperately trying to drag the other three into a conversation about why there was an Avenue Winston Churchill but nothing for FDR. Damn French! I was tempted to interrupt and show him on his map the subway stop and square he had probably ridden under twelve times during his week, but I didn't feel like talking to stoopit people.
I was thinking he'd probably get home and call Rush or Bill with his profound observation before the jetlag wore off.
I like to watch Rick Steve's travel show. He always features family-friendly places and it seems that Europe has lots of public places where you can just sit and watch the world go by and not be harassed or hassled.
wiw, i'm mostly italian (3rd gen) so that has a lot of draw for me. but on dad's side, the family used to have a castle in england (corfe) and mrs g is of anglo heritage.
dirk gently,
Oh, then Swanage should be on your list, too. Lovely country down there.
I have survived the Vista upgrade unscathed.
So there.
attaturk | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:02 pm | #
Good!
steve simels
Although there is no "glory hole" and I was sort of hoping for that to be included. Maybe I should have bought Windows Vista Ultimate?
European Journal on PBS did a gun law story back in the 1980's. One place where it seemed anybody could have a gun was Yugoslavia. They even showed a wedding custom where it was traditional for the guests to fire their pistols into the air.
sekmet | 10.06.07 - 3:03 pm
Firing a gun in celebration isn't strictly a SE Europe thing.
Nah. There's always gonna be the 29% who, no matter what is happening, will cling to their utterly self-destructive lifestyles.
While their lifestyles self-destruct, you can be sure that they'll be blaming the liberals.
Yeah, it's the liberals fault that that the Republican donating corporation just outsourced your job to India.
Yeah, it's the liberals fault that your child was made ill from products made by companies whose goods Bushco no longer bothers to inspect. Who needs regulation? Companies can police themselves!
assrocket
It's time to start taking seriously the proposition that the American economy under the Bush administration is the best in the nation's history.
I like to watch Rick Steve's travel show. He always features family-friendly places and it seems that Europe has lots of public places where you can just sit and watch the world go by and not be harassed or hassled.
sekmet
I was just at his website. He's donated $80K to AmericanForests.org to offset the carbon from his trips to Europe.
I don't think many people realize the importance of land enclosures and their continuing effects today
the privatisation of the land
attaturk, after about a week i will be very interested to know if you think the upgrade was worth it, and if it bought you anything.
dirk, you are most welcome in my guest room as well, though I think I will probably be in Geneva by next year.
also, check out the Hospitality Club, about people who open their homes to strangers. I've done this and met some very good friends this way.
Ministers have unveiled a list of 14 private firms approved to help primary care trusts (PCTs) in England commission services for patients.
They include UK specialists like Bupa, and big US health insurers.
Critics said the move was a step towards privatisation of NHS primary care services.
But the government said the firms could offer help in areas such as data analysis, but not get involved in the delivery of direct patient care.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/healt...lth/
7029809.stm
assrocket
It's time to start taking seriously the proposition that the American economy under the Bush administration is the best in the nation's history.
P O'Neill
Oh Sweet Jesus -- this is the same dude that 2 years ago declared Bush a "misunderstood genius".
Good job Harvard fuckin' Law.
It's time to start taking seriously the proposition that the American economy under the Bush administration is the best in the nation's history.
P O'Neill | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:07 pm | #
Okay, I'm taking it seriously.
(ten ... nine ... eight ... )
And now I'm seriously rejecting it.
Dirk,
The two European cities we visited which were truly "jewels" were Paris and Venice.
also, check out the Hospitality Club, about people who open their homes to strangers. I've done this and met some very good friends this way.
mimi |
thanks for the suggestion, but in general i'm not too fond of people.
attaturk, after about a week i will be very interested to know if you think the upgrade was worth it, and if it bought you anything.
dirk gently
You mean there may still be a "glory hole" coming?
the privatisation of the land
Moonbootica<
Well, the problem is that it was the last stealable stuff in Europe. What is a landlord to do?
dirk, you make me laugh.
you will hate Europe if you don't like people. There's tons of them here.
Yin: Capitalism, like God, provides everything. if it doesn't provide it then it is not necessary.
________________________________________
Yang: The State, like God, provides everything. Anything not forbidden is compulsory.
You mean there may still be a "glory hole" coming?
attaturk | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:10 pm | #
well, some kind of hole anyway.
thanks for the suggestion, but in general i'm not too fond of people.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Nor I. Some taste a little better than others however.
.
You mean there may still be a "glory hole" coming?
attaturk | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:10 pm | #
Um ... you might want to rephrase that ...
Venice is gorgeous but it's best to avoid high season (May might still be OK). There are so many tourists that it feels like you're at Busch Gardens Europe.
thanks for the suggestion, but in general i'm not too fond of people.
dirk gently
you can also rent apartments in big cities, even a few smaller ones. Great way to save money, and have a place to sit and take your shoes off, where it's quiet and private, if your aversion to crowds is like mine.
visit Venice before it sinks!
"We got more information out of a German general with a game of chess or Ping-Pong than they do today, with their torture"
Maybe they really are the Greatest Generation.
Several of the veterans, all men in their 80s and 90s, denounced the controversial techniques. And when the time came for them to accept honors from the Army's Freedom Team Salute, one veteran refused, citing his opposition to the war in Iraq and procedures that have been used at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.
"I feel like the military is using us to say, 'We did spooky stuff then, so it's okay to do it now,' " said Arno Mayer, 81, a professor of European history at Princeton University.
When Peter Weiss, 82, went up to receive his award, he commandeered the microphone and gave his piece.
"I am deeply honored to be here, but I want to make it clear that my presence here is not in support of the current war," said Weiss, chairman of the Lawyers' Committee on Nuclear Policy and a human rights and trademark lawyer in New York City.
you will hate Europe if you don't like people. There's tons of them here.
mimi | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:11 pm | #
"tons" of them are ok. it's individuals that are the problem.
or, as lucy van pelt said, i love mankind - it's people i can't stand.
Chimpy is interfering in furrin elections again.
visit Venice before it sinks!
It'll be a great scuba diving spot someday.
I don't think many people realize the importance of land enclosures and their continuing effects today
the privatisation of the land
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker
Darling, I'm pretty sure that every overseas Irishwo/man or Scotswo/man is perfectly aware of the consequences of enclosure.
you can also rent apartments in big cities, even a few smaller ones.
actually, we have a timeshare in kissemme and have been saving up trade-up points. so we may have a week-long home base already paid for.
really? I like Europeans I meet one on one. Watch out for the drunken Brits, is all.
It's time to start taking seriously the proposition that the American economy under the Bush administration is the best in the nation's history.
In a pre crash of 1929 smoke and mirrors way I suppose it might be. It certainly is for those in the top 0.1% in terms of income. I guess no one else counts as far as those making such proclamations go.
Oh, I'm sure this will work:
Dayton considers establishing 'no prostitution zones'
http://www.wdtn.com/global/
story...tType=Printable
Another one for the GOP Stall of Fame (Larry Craig charter member):
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/arc...ives/
055255.php
Joey DiFatta, St. Bernard Parish Councilman and until-today candidate for state senate, had a novel approach to getting ahead of the story. Hours before the revelations appeared in the Times-Picayune, he called local reporters to announce that he would withdraw from the senate contest because he had "been having chest pains for a few weeks and ... might have had a minor heart attack in the past few days."
One incident in 1996 involved watching "a man use the bathroom while peering throguh a hole in a bathroom stall." The man subsequently detained the sizable DiFatta until police arrived.
efferson Parish deputies working an undercover detail in a men's bathroom at Dillard's at Lakeside Shopping Center in March 2000 stopped DiFatta after he indicated a desire to engage in sex with an undercover deputy in an adjoining bathroom stall, according to an interoffice memorandum written by Sgt. Keith Conley, one of the deputies involved in the investigation.
Only days ago, DiFatta was hawking the DiFatta plan to "defend our conservative values from attacks by extreme liberal groups."
"you will hate Europe if you don't like people. There's tons of them here."
Mimi's right on this one. But they don't all smoke like fiends anymore.
Gordon Brown is facing his first political crisis in Number 10 as he fights claims that cabinet ministers floated the possibility of a snap general election during the party conference season to destabilise opponents.
In an interview to be broadcast tomorrow, the prime minister will rule out a snap general election this autumn and suggest there will be no election until 2009. His move came after polls revealed Labour were six points behind the Conservatives in marginal seats.
David Cameron set the tone for the week ahead when he said: 'The prime minister has shown great weakness and indecision. He has not focused on running the country. He has been trying to spin his way into an election. This is a humiliating retreat.'
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/
l...2185427,00.html
"I love mankind; it's people I can't stand." -- Charles Schulz
except in Germany, and France, and Switzerland, and Italy, they don't smoke that much anymore.
you can also rent apartments in big cities, even a few smaller ones.
actually, we have a timeshare in kissemme and have been saving up trade-up points. so we may have a week-long home base already paid for.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:14 pm
My sister also timeshares in Kissimee, supposedly they can also go overseas. It's a matter of convincing her husband.
for rugby fans with no pay-per-view options
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/...ion/
7030373.stm
i.e. if the voters reject the new deal, then we'll lose interest in continuing Costa Rica's existing trade access, but it won't be our fault -- it will be those awful alter-globalization meanies who say such awful things about the wonders of free trade. So it's a threat that they won't even take responsibility for implementing. Classy people.
Charlie Rangel counts his money.
DiFatta they come, DiHarda they fall. 
TEHRAN (AFP) — The number of cholera cases in Iran is on the rise after the outbreak of an epidemic in neighbouring Iraq, an Iranian health official was quoted as saying on Saturday.
"The last count shows 43 people have contracted cholera in Kordestan province," Mohsen Zahrai, who is in charge of water and food-borne diseases, told ISNA news agency.
He said those affected had been commuting across the border with Iraq and warned Iranian citizens to postpone pilgrimages to Iraq until the situation was under control.
The World Health Organisation said on Thursday Iran had recorded 10 cases of cholera since September 19 in its western Kordestan province. It said it was unaware of any cases elsewhere in Iran.
Iraq has been grappling with a growing outbreak of cholera, with 3,300 cases and 14 deaths since August, largely in the northeast of the country.
The Iraqi outbreak and its spread in the conflict-ridden country has been blamed on poor quality water supplies and a lack of sanitation.
http://afp.google.com/article/
AL...X1FXSNOjQYEXPZQ
I have survived the Vista upgrade unscathed.
So there.
Google Earth shows a new massive crater in the midwest shaped like a fez.
The enclosures affected the English peasants, too, and at least as severely.
TEHRAN, Oct 6 (Reuters) - Iran said on Saturday it had 43 cholera cases, four times more than previously announced, and added they were mostly near Iraq where there has been an outbreak of the disease, an Iranian news agency reported.
A World Health Organisation (WHO) official said on Thursday 10 cases had been confirmed in Iran. WHO has urged neighbours of Iraq, where cholera has struck more than 3,300 people since mid-August, to strengthen their defences against the disease.
Iran shares a long border with Iraq. Many Iraqi refugees have fled to Iran to escape violence at home, while Iranian Shi'ite Muslim pilgrims often cross into Iraq to visit holy sites there.
"The total number of confirmed cholera cases has reached 43, most of them identified in (Iran's western) Kurdistan province among those who used to frequently cross the Iraqi border," Health Ministry official Mohsen Zahraie was quoted as saying.
http://www.reuters.com/article/m...s/
idUSBLA649266
afternoon, all
"I hate and despise the animal called Mankind, but I like the occasional Tom, Dick, or Harry."
-Swift
If Jesus came back and saw what they have been doing in his name, he would never stop throwing up.
I'm extremely pleased to announce that British Columbia will produce North America's best wines when global warming really takes hold. Unfortunately, at the same time, the potency of B.C. bud will diminish greatly.
"We got more information out of a German general with a game of chess or Ping-Pong than they do today, with their torture."
The justification ChimpCo makes for torturing Muslims is that they're impervious to the sympathy implied in this statement. Since they exist on a different (inferior) level from us, we could never get them to cooperate using benign persuasion. Like vicious animals, they only way they can be made to cooperate is by inflicting pain. It's a variation of the denial that mutually assured destruction would keep Middle Eastern countries with a nuclear bomb from using it: as crazed imbeciles, they'll gladly get themselves annihilated just to have a crack at us.
Suicide bombers supposedly provide evidence for this. But if it's true that every Muslim has the self-negating fanaticism of a suicide bomber, then why do any of them let themselves be put into a situation where they can be tortured to begin with? Why don't they all just carry cyanide capsules?
My sister also timeshares in Kissimee, supposedly they can also go overseas
yeah - as long as the belong to RCI or something similar, which i gather almost all timeshare owners do.
this trip will be our last use of the timeshare, i think - we haven't really taken a vacation for the past 6 years and likely won't again.
Violence flared in the Swiss capital of Bern as left-wing protesters tried to stop a pre-election campaign event by the nationalist Swiss People's Party.
Police fired tear gas as demonstrators hurled rocks and bottles in front of parliament to interrupt a march and rally by about 5,000 SVP supporters.
The SVP has been recently criticised for its hard-line views on immigration.
Its campaign posters - showing white sheep kicking a black sheep off a Swiss flag - have stirred controversy.
The party, which has campaigned against minarets in Swiss cities, condemned the violence as contrary to the country's democratic tradition.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/
7032021.stm
"I hate and despise the animal called Mankind, but I like the occasional Tom, Dick, or Harry."
"a person is smart - people are are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
-- agent jay
.
OMG! Don't tell Rush, Glenn, Lou, and Sean, okay?
"In an upset victory, Fordson High School's football team -- whose players have been fasting during Ramadan -- defeated crosstown rival Dearborn High 16-14 in an emotional win Friday night that reflected the emergence of an American Islam.
It was Fordson's first win during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan in at least two years and it came against a team favored to win.
"No Excuses," read special T-shirts worn by Fordson fans and team assistants on the sidelines during Friday's game at Dearborn High. The shirts referred to the team's determination this year not to make Ramadan -- when Muslims abstain from liquids and food during daylight hours -- an excuse for losing."
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...NEWS02/
71006010
"I'm extremely proud of these kids," Fordson Head Coach Fouad Zaban said after the game, his eyes welled up. "They worked extremely hard. We've had two tough losses last couple of weeks, but they didn't quit ... Nobody knows what these kids went though the last few years ... and especially what they're going through now" with fasting.
Over the past three weeks, most of the team's players have been abstaining from food and water from sunrise to sunset, making workouts especially tough. But Zaban, an observant Muslim who fasts, made sure that the Ramadan season did not become a distraction for players.
If Jesus came back and saw what they have been doing in his name, he would never stop throwing up.
All over Hannity and his sisters.
"I hate and despise the animal called Mankind, but I like the occasional Tom, Dick, or Harry."
"i don't care so much for tom or harry"
-- larry craig
.
"a person is smart - people are are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
-- agent jay
Agent Kay (or K) actually.
The two European cities we visited which were truly "jewels" were Paris and Venice.
Bobby,
When we lived in Milan I honestly couldn't get enough of Venice. We must have gone there six or seven times. The food and wine are exquisite.
And the Virgin Ironpants is returning to Pakistan.
(Sorry, obscure Salman Rushdie reference.)
Like vicious animals, they only way they can be made to cooperate is by inflicting pain.
I think most of BushCo know it is ineffective. They torture people for the same reason sociopaths do anything - because they like how it makes them feel when they do it or watch it or make someone else do it.
I'm extremely pleased to announce that British Columbia will produce North America's best wines when global warming really takes hold. Unfortunately, at the same time, the potency of B.C. bud will diminish greatly.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich
Slocan's looking better and better to me - particularly now that the whole valley's got high speed wireless net access....
Agent Kay (or K) actually.
Toonscribe | 10.06.07 - 3:25 pm | #
er, right.
i always get those two confused. for some reason i always think J came first.
How about those Cleveland Indians? Go Tribe!
And the Virgin Ironpants is returning to Pakistan.
V.I. Warshawski?
It's time to start taking seriously the proposition that the American economy under the Bush administration is the best in the nation's history.
P O'Neill
Like the beauty of a wave, just before it crashes?
FIF
i always get those two confused. for some reason i always think J came first.
I did, too -- until I wrote a cript for the animated series.
What was the codename of the old guy that retired at the beginning of the first movie. Was he a J? Did will Smith inherit his codename?
Like vicious animals, they only way they can be made to cooperate is by inflicting pain.
Read Zimbardo. Read Milgram. Hell, read Seligmann on what happens when you shock dogs. You destroy information by imposing pain. You lose control. And you turn the inquisitors into instruments of torture.
SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq (AP) - She is 18, unmarried and eight months pregnant. She hates it when the baby shifts and kicks in her womb.
``I don't hate the child,'' she said. ``But the movements keep reminding me of my past.''
After she gives birth in secrecy, she will give up her child for what she describes as her family's honor. Then she will travel home to the Kurdish area of northwestern Iran to find a husband who knows nothing of her story.
Secrecy is essential, because in her world, a child out of wedlock can lead to an ``honor killing'' - her murder by a relative to protect her family's honor. So she is known in this city only as Banaz, a nickname.
Tarza, 22, also uses a nickname. She sits on a sofa and weeps, wiping her nose with her leopard print head scarf. She gave birth out of wedlock in 2003, a few months after the U.S.-led invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein, and says her male-dominated clan wanted to kill her for sullying their reputation.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
worldl...6977170,00.html
The wealthy co-worker who just came back from a week in Paris (before going called them a bunch of socialists with a bad work ethic) was complaining how much everything cost. Don't think she made the connection between our solid Republican economic policies and the crappiness of her dollar vs. the euro.
I read somewheres that on Joe Lieberman's say so, General Petraeus has just been authorised to round up the 110,000 newly declared terrorists in Iran and bring them back for incarceration in Murray's Coal Mines in Utah.
Some reports cite several hundred honor killings or related suicides a year in Iraqi Kurdistan, which has more than 4 million people. But there are no reliable statistics for a crime that is difficult to prove without effective law enforcement and the cooperation of tribal communities.
The number of women who committed suicide by setting themselves on fire increased from 36 in 2005 to 133 in 2006, while the murder of women rose from four to 17, according to a report by Kurdistan's human rights ministry.
The report makes no specific reference to honor killing. But one theory circulating in Kurdistan is that because penalties for murder have been stiffened, more men are resorting to coercing women into killing themselves.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
worldl...6977170,00.html
"I feel like the military is using us to say, 'We did spooky stuff then, so it's okay to do it now,' " said Arno Mayer, 81, a professor of European history at Princeton University.
Go it, Prof. Mayer!*
(*Arno Joseph Mayer (June 19, 1926 -) is Luxembourg-born American historian of modern Europe, diplomatic history, and the Holocaust. A self-proclaimed "left dissident Marxist", Mayer's major interests are in modernization theory and what he calls "The Thirty Years' Crisis" between 1914 and 1945.
Mayer received his education at the City College of New York and Yale University. He has been professor at Wesleyan University (1952-1953), Brandeis University (1954-1958 ), Harvard University (1958-1961) and Princeton University (1961-).
In Mayer's view, Europe was characterized in the 19th century by rapid modernization in the economic field by industrialization and retardation in the political field. In particular, Mayer feels that the aristocracy in all of the European countries held far too much power, and it was their efforts to keep power that led to World War I, the rise of fascism, World War II, and the Holocaust.)
I still cannot BELIEVE that the stupid SOBs on the TV have not made the connection that the economy pretty much sucks for a majority of Americans. They really believe the damned copy they are reading.
Ignorance is a scary scary thing
What was the codename of the old guy that retired at the beginning of the first movie. Was he a J? Did will Smith inherit his codename?
Toonscribe | 10.06.07 - 3:31 pm | #
agent b, i think.
Many women turn up at hospitals with severe burns that doctors suspect are the result of suicide attempts linked to family honor, possibly coerced by male relatives who don't want to kill the women and face prosecution for murder.
``Before coming to the hospital, they will agree on a story: 'While she was cooking, that happened. While she was in the bath, that happened,''' said Dr. Ahmed Amin, a medical director of Heartland Alliance, a human rights group based in Chicago.
Cell phones are also part of the problem. According to a columnist in Soma Digest, an English-language newspaper in Kurdistan, there are cases of men dialing randomly until they reach a woman, whom they then harass with more calls or text messages. Saved in the phone's memory, these raunchy calls can endanger the woman's life if a male relative discovers them and believes they are from a boyfriend, the newspaper said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
worldl...6977170,00.html
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:34 pm | #
Are you going to post the entire Guardian Web site, one link at a time?
Leave Moonbootica alone.
Are you going to post the entire Guardian Web site, one link at a time?
Iced Tea, Order Up! | 10.06.07 - 3:35 pm | #
no, I'm done
John Fowles on Martin Amis and others
agent b, i think.
According to imdb, it was:
Richard Hamilton ... Agent D (K's first Partner)
I am objectively pro-Moonbootica.
All right - one last look at the newest member of the Peoples Comfy Chair Legion, and I'm out of here.
More than 1,000 Iraqis have marched in west Baghdad in a rare public demonstration to protest against a wall they say the US military is planning to erect around their district.
Carrying an Iraqi flag and banners condemning the wall the marchers in the mainly Shia area of al-Washash chanted: "No, no to the wall. No, no to America."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...671EAA2EA38.htm
moonbootica,
Carry on. I enjoy your links. And I don't want to read more, I scroll on by. Thanks for posting.
I like Moon posting articles. I don't read all of them but usually there's one or two that I find quite enlightening.
All right - one last look at the newest member of the Peoples Comfy Chair Legion, and I'm out of here.
I'm not sure I could survive the soft cushions.
I'm not sure I could survive the soft cushions.
JeffCO
get the rack!
Really, Auntie GWPDA, you would never see those colors in this part of the country.
no, I'm done
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker |
oh, please? some of us appreciate your posts a great deal.
I thought the article about the football team from Dearborn (The site of the largest Arab population in the United States) that was observing Ramadan and still won their football game would elicit a comment or two. Guess not.
(I thought it interesting in a sort of surreal way.)
Really, Auntie GWPDA, you would never see those colors in this part of the country.
ql-was in NY
I'm sorry. I woulda figured that gold and orange were known everywhere!
Carrying an Iraqi flag and banners condemning the wall the marchers in the mainly Shia area of al-Washash chanted: "No, no to the wall. No, no to America."
general petraeus, tear down this wall!
building a wall, not a way to endear yourself local to the populace!
(I thought it interesting in a sort of surreal way.)
DWD - Uncivil |
i thought it was interesting, but had nothing to add.
Damn, Badgers lose. Hopefully business will pick up after the game.
am going out tomorrow for Sunday lunch again with my paternal grandparents, my dad and my mum
which will be nice
i guess i could have made a snarky comment about the "fast"-er team ....
am going out tomorrow for Sunday lunch again with my paternal grandparents, my dad and my mum
It will be lovely. You're a lucky girl, Moon.
I'm going to repaint the study.
.
The wealthy co-worker who just came back from a week in Paris (before going called them a bunch of socialists with a bad work ethic)
Your coworker comes from a country where CEOs give themselves huge bonuses after their bad governance makes their companies to go bankrupt, and she has the gall to talk about work ethic.
Looking back is death, forward is infinite possibilities. Time is an arrow, and all we really have is now and the future.
i totally disagree with this. without sober reflection upon the past, that is both critical and time-consuming, we're destined to make the same sorts of fuckups in the future. not looking back has meant death for too many in a lot of places and times. also, merit and service are worth remembering. especially when it is hard or impossible to do good in the present.
Charles Stross - Ahem ...
(Author clears throat, looks around nervously, climbs on soap box) ...
My latest novel, "Halting State", a near-future thriller of skullduggery and rules lawyering in the shadowy world of massively multiplayer virtual reality games, is officially published today in the US. (It'll be published in trade paperback in the UK in early January.) The book covers to either side link to Amazon pages where you can buy them now: it's interesting to compare the different approaches the British and American art directors have taken.
Now, if I wasn't a self-effacing Brit, I ought to be taking this opportunity to tell you how good this book is, and how you can't possibly live without it. But I'm shy and bashful, so I'll leave it up to some other folks to tell you about it.
Vernor Vinge said: "Charles Stross is the most spectacular science-fiction writer of recent years. In 'Halting State', he has written a near-future story that is at once over-the-top and compellingly believable.".
And William Gibson commented: "As keenly observant of our emergent society as it is our emergent technologies, 'Halting State' is one extremely smart species of fun."
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/...07/10/
ahem.html
Your coworker comes from a country where CEOs give themselves huge bonuses after their bad governance makes their companies to go bankrupt, and she has the gall to talk about work ethic.
Richard
If you've seen the Glenn Close show on one of those cable stations with letters (FX, or TNT, I have to look it up every week), its about a lawyer going after an Enron-type CEO in civil court. The whole Countrywide thing yesterday just made it that much more relevent. Again.
if you like Ken MacLeod, then Charles Stross is right up your alley
his first novel Singularity Sky is pretty darn good and am in the middle of reading another novel of his Glasshouse
dirk,
I guess that is it: when I was reading the article I had this strange vision of evening prayers - in full pads.
More interesting than something to comment on I guess. Just sort of "different" but the "same" and in the end, that is what makes it interesting. My supposition for years has been that in spite of people constantly trying to drive wedges between people, we remain pretty much the same.
he also runs a blog - Charlie's Diary
My supposition for years has been that in spite of people constantly trying to drive wedges between people, we remain pretty much the same.
DWD - Uncivil | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:51 pm | #
i think that is true. but i'm not sure whether it is a good thing or bad.
I do not WANT an old copy of UNIX for dummies. Or, Delrina Cyberjack. Or HARVARD GRAPHICS on 5.25 floppies. Time to say goodbye to old friends.
.
My supposition for years has been that in spite of people constantly trying to drive wedges between people, we remain pretty much the same.
I will not be swayed by a bunch of cheeseheads.
I do not WANT an old copy of UNIX for dummies. Or, Delrina Cyberjack. Or HARVARD GRAPHICS on 5.25 floppies. Time to say goodbye to old friends.
.
GWPDA
You are good and virtuous, sounds like. Today is roughly the 23rd Saturday in a row, not counting the ones when I've been out of town, when my early-week pledge to clean the garage is fading into sloth.
HARVARD GRAPHICS on 5.25 floppies
Maybe the trolls will take them. They're stuck with 3.5" floppies.
i think that is true. but i'm not sure whether it is a good thing or bad.
Dirk, I am pretty sure it is a good thing. The trick is to just remind people from time to time that we all want about the same thing: safe streets, a decent job, good friends, good food, good schools for our kids, decent health care, and a chance to live without worrying about the future constantly.
If we can convince enough people to forget about the wedge issues: abortion, christianity, catholocism, hate for minorities, hate for sexual preferences: and remind them of the important things; they may eschew the Republican Party forever.
especially when it is hard or impossible to do good in the present.
chicago dyke, calm | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 3:48 pm | #
It is always possible to do good in the present....to be what you choose to be.
DWD - Uncivil, I read about this team several weeks ago and found it very interesting. I am always torn by these stories. On one hand you have to admire their strength of character, but on the other the militant atheist in me always wants to say "Dont't let your life be ruled by 1000 year old fairy tales".
Dirk, I am pretty sure it is a good thing. The trick is to just remind people from time to time that we all want about the same thing: safe streets, a decent job, good friends, good food, good schools for our kids, decent health care, and a chance to live without worrying about the future constantly.
If we can convince enough people to forget about the wedge issues: abortion, christianity, catholocism, hate for minorities, hate for sexual preferences: and remind them of the important things; they may eschew the Republican Party forever.
I doubt this is true. People may not care about schools or health care except when they are in extreme circumstances. They don't want good food unless you define that as what you find at Chucky Cheese. Their definition of a safe street is one on which they can carry a weapon. They find abortion, racial purity and supressing sexual behavior as far more important than education, health care and safety.
HARVARD GRAPHICS on 5.25 floppies
Ah, 1988.
It is always possible to do good in the present....to be what you choose to be.
Shared Humanity
Get a brain, Moran.
We all picked the wrong category to blog in:
Influential Food Bloggers Now Eat For Free
Influential Food Bloggers Now Eat For Free
attaturk | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 4:02 pm | #
note to self: start blogging about money.
HARVARD GRAPHICS on 5.25 floppies
Ah, 1988.
attaturk | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 4:01 pm | #
i do my best work while thinking in pencil...
Influential Food Bloggers Now Eat For Free
attaturk | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 4:02 pm | #
note to self: start blogging about money.
dirk gently
"The Free Food, Sex, and Money Blog"
Ah, 1988.
attaturk | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 4:01 pm | #
i do my best work while thinking in pencil...
fokowi at lake cabin | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 4:04 pm | #
i do my best work in 1988.
spinoza,
I dunno. Maybe you are right. Maybe you are probably right. I have spent my life trying to prove you are not. But then again, no one at the place where I worked seems to have a great appreciation of that either.
I think people can be shown the correct path but it is easier to hate. You know. That Langston Hughes' Poem comes to mind. (to follow)
Wisdom and War
We do not care-
That much is clear.
Not enough
Of us care
Anywhere.
We are not wise-
For that reason,
Mankind dies.
To think
Is much against
The will.
Better-
And easier-
To kill.
note to self: start blogging about money.
I've been thinking of blogging about very expensive collectible cars. The ad clicks for those are priced extremely high.
I'm moo-bile!
Where can't Igo, given enough time?
Who knew the entire eastern half of the state would be at the Apple Festival? Dang.
.
I was 2 years old in 1988
I broke a particularly resistant PowerPoint slideshow using Harvard Graphics. Sentimental value - it was the last thing I did before my computer access was revoked on the grounds that I was a security risk. Go Army!
.
From Ruth's link up-thread, worth repeating:
To say that George W. Bush spends money like a drunken sailor is to insult every gin-soaked patron of every dockside dive in every dubious port of call. If Bush gets his way, the cost of his wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will soon reach a mind-blowing $600 billion. Despite turning a budget surplus into a huge deficit, the man still hasn't met a tax cut he doesn't like. And when the Republicans were in charge of Congress, Bush might as well have signed their pork-stuffed spending bills with a one-word rubber stamp: "Whatever."
Bush's Veto Lies
by Eugene Robinson
P.S. Good luck when Broder calls you into his office on Monday, Eugene. You know he doesn't like anyone to talk bad about his BFF the Chimpster.
Okay, me and my cookies are out for awhile.
Ignore the troll.
I've been thinking of blogging about very expensive collectible cars. The ad clicks for those are priced extremely high.
Echidne
I wouldn't mind having a Deusenberg. In fact, I like just saying "Deusenberg"
I was 2 years old in 1988
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker |
my son was 3. and my youngest daughter was born that year.
Let's see: Young DWD was borning in 84 and Youngest DWD was born in 87. So . . . I guess I am old too.
They find abortion, racial purity and supressing sexual behavior as far more important than education, health care and safety.
spinoza
If by "they" you mean benighted Christian fundamentalist dipshits, you ae correct. There is good news that the younger generations are embracing the Jesus scam less than their parents, so this may yet turn out to be a temporary anomaly.
or born(I blame the meds myself)
I wouldn't mind having a Deusenberg. In fact, I like just saying "Deusenberg"
Or Daimler. I test drove one of those in England. Walnut paneling...
I wouldn't mind having a Deusenberg. In fact, I like just saying "Deusenberg"
Jim
When I was making porn*, my screen name was "Stutz Bearcat."
* - Of course it is.
Out in the woods or in the city
It's all the same to me
When I'm drivin' free the world's my home
When I'm mobile
Hee-hoo, beep beep
Play the tape machine, making toast and tea when I'm mobile
Well, I can lay in bed with only highway ahead when I'm mobile
Keep me movin'
Keep me movin', over fifty
Keep me groovin', just a hippy gypsy
Come on, move now, movin'
Keep me movin', yeah
Keep me movin' movin' movin', yeah, movin', yeah
Mobile mobile mobile ...
I don't care about pollution
I'm an air-conditioned gypsy
That's my solution
Watch the police and the tax-man miss me
I'm mobile
Mobile mobile mobile, yeah
Nor do I require four different and, in varying ways, inadequate kinds of OCR software, when ABBYY is what is best.
Aloha Bob, however, stays!
the C R E A M BLOG
No yurp without murka.
the who
I do not WANT an old copy of UNIX for dummies. Or, Delrina Cyberjack. Or HARVARD GRAPHICS on 5.25 floppies. Time to say goodbye to old friends.
Admit it. You still play Zaxxon on a Colecovision.
No yurp without murka.
blow | 10.06.07 - 4:16 pm | #
er, yeah.
there kinda was.
. I guess I am old too.
DWD - Uncivil | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 4:10 pm | #
There's a lot of that going around.
Admit it. You still play Zaxxon on a Colecovision.
Richard
Nah - just an historian. Tend to keep things.
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TCM has John Wayne doing the jitterburg with Fred from the old Lucy show cheering him on.
The week I turned two, "I Got You Babe" was topping the Billboard charts.
Turtles have crossed into the afternoon.
Then you were born in 1963 and therefore you are 44.
There's a pitcher in the major leagues who's 44.
I remember when I was 12 and my parents got me "Pong" for Christmas.
And I was delighted.
Ah, 1996, good times.
(ok, 1977)
Rudy can change his mind on abortion.
peace and humptiness forever
The whole Countrywide thing yesterday just made it that much more relevent. Again.
Jim, tribal Catholic |
10.06.07 - 3:50 pm | #
Jim, I was out of the news reading thing yesterday. MIL's 95th birthday....what happened with Countrywide?
i volunteer to escort a wingnut around yurp. i have a passport. i'll keep him out of trouble, and enforce some learnin'.
chicago dyke, calm
Just ignore the pleas to be "forced" to visit Amsterdam's Red Light District and cafes.
Rudy can change his mind on abortion.
blow
If he takes office, abortion will only be legal for certified mistresses.
We expatriated ourselves from LA to Southern France, 30 miles south of Carcassonne, in early 05 after the Butcher got "reelected". It's been lovely. We went back to LA a couple of weeks ago for a family visit; no regrets. Anyone visiting the region, look up up (through Daily Kos).
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