I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Don't blame me. I voted for Atrios.
Chimpy
Secondly, Kenya is an issue, and -- we're going to be in the neighborhood in Kenya -- in Kenya's neighborhood.
Chimpy
You know, this [Africa] is -- but this is a large place with a lot of nations, and no question not everything is perfect.
There is nothing creepy or cult-like about the continual Republican humping of Ronald Reagan's rotting corpse.
you want a political cult? Here, let me introduce you to the 24% Bush dead-enders, otherwise known as 'the backwash'.
Does smoking suppress appetite?
Yes.
yeah, what Kenosha Kid said
Your candidate's campaign is a cult!!!
No, that was Mitt Romney's campaign.
Is it sexist to observe that sometimes women really are on the rag?
I thought there was something fishy going on!
"Aww, that trick never works!"
Rocky the Squirrel
but fuckabee's krazy-kristianist-koalition is what middle america is looking for, right MSM?
I was at a meeting of my county Democrats and the Obama supporters had many outbursts. No other candidates' supporters have done that in the year or so I've been attending. So, maybe there's something to it.
Does smoking suppress appetite?
NTodd
Yes.
So does caraway seed.
(and it's ironic that a Quaker doesn't know that)
Oh my gawd. What a pack of never ending fools run the media in this country.
They're obviously terrified of the villages unmasking their thin veneer of punditry so when the volume gets too loud from inside the hall and there's nothing left to analyze they decide that we're all in danger of falling in love with Elmer Gantry.
Turn the teevee news off friends. It's your sworn enemy.
Secondly, Kenya is an issue, and -- we're going to be in the neighborhood in Kenya -- in Kenya's neighborhood.
/palm to face
As far as I know, there aren't any talking Obama dolls with enhanced dicks, such as the Chimp cultists pass out.
Eating surpresses appetite.
You know, Atrios periodically gets down and just links to other blogs, but never mine.
you want cult? I give you Ron Paul supporters.
I said something less than glowing about the almighty Hillary. I guess that makes me a sexist.
NTodd, would help if you had a blog.
Chimpy
You know, this [Africa] is -- but this is a large place with a lot of nations, and no question not everything is perfect.
P O'Neill
He didn't really say that? Did he? OMG.
I give you Ron Paul supporters.
r€nato, aka DJ M-Trip
No thanks. You can keep them.
The media circle jerk is in full swing.
Adam--nothing is shocking anymore.
You get wht you sow, that's all I can say. Reliance on Media Matters as a source is BS. Media Matters loves to accuse people on the right of being "bigots." It has done everything in its power to slander Pat Buchanan and others, simply for telling the truth: America is divided by a culture war, a conflict over the power to define society's definition of right and wrong. That's to the leftist what garlic is to a vampire.
Now Media Matters turns on those it disagrees with on the far left? You get what you sow.
You know, Atrios periodically gets down and just links to other blogs, but never mine.
NTodd, Löving Führer
Me neither for that he must be pilloried
Barack Obama killed Sharon Tate.
If you think Chimpy's Africa's words are bad, look at the pictures
http://www.dependablerenegade.com/
All this cult talk is this only year's models of Howard Dean's Screeeaammm.
I said something less than glowing about the almighty Hillary. I guess that makes me a sexist.
Keith Olbermann | 02.16.08 - 10:52 am | #
Nice straw man Keith. How bout trying something remotely resembling unbiased journalism this election eh?
Now Media Matters turns on those it disagrees with on the far left? You get what you sow.
Texaschilibean
Doesn't take long to stink up a thread, does it?
No, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad killed Sharon Tate. Please.
Is it sexist to observe that sometimes women really are on the rag?
Moe Szyslak
Yes.
Because it's not true.
You see, there's this thing called menopause....
I was at a meeting of my county Democrats and the Obama supporters had many outbursts. No other candidates' supporters have done that in the year or so I've been attending. So, maybe there's something to it.
Great example!
Jeez.
(and it's ironic that a Quaker doesn't know that)
I'm a shitty Quaker, and lousy with plants, cooking, etc.
So I'm going to start smoking now.
urkel?
All them minorities look alike - to some people.
far left == anybody some rightard disagrees with
Doesn't take long to stink up a thread, does it?
Somebody better grab the Glade.
_Lion in Winter_ on TCM now.
Power politics, done right....
Is it sexist to observe that sometimes women really are on the rag?
It is when that's the form of your dismissal of their concerns or actions.
Wait, Chimpy's in Africa? I thought he was postponing until the dems bowed to his mighty will.
No thanks. You can keep them.
Sinfonian
I'll take 'em, we're coming up on pothole season.
My Candidate has been depriving me of sleep and protein.
You see, there's this thing called menopause....
And it makes us not give a fuck about what people think.
Power politics, done right....
true, that... but I also offer for your consideration, the HBO series Rome which I watched last night.
Ooooh. Lion in Winter. See ya.
Is it sexist to observe that sometimes women really are on the rag?
It is when that's the form of your dismissal of their concerns or actions.
NTodd, Löving Führer |
Yes, thank you. These Canadernians sometimes need a clue.
Myself, I'm fucking irrational about half the time, and I don't ahve a perod to blame it on.
It has done everything in its power to slander Pat Buchanan and others, simply for telling the truth
culture war? uh-fucking-mericans can't even define culture, don't even have culture and wouldn't want it if it was explained to them
Pat Buchanan? Holocaust Revisionist Supremo, yeah lemme hear him say more bullshit
It has done everything in its power to slander Pat Buchanan and others, simply for telling the truth: America is divided by a culture war, a conflict over the power to define society's definition of right and wrong. That's to the leftist what garlic is to a vampire.
Now Media Matters turns on those it disagrees with on the far left? You get what you sow.
Texaschilibean | 02.16.08 - 10:53 am | #
as usual, TCB misses by a mile or more. The "culture war" is defined by those waging it: the frightened fat white males of the status quo, who haven't earned an honest dollar in their miserable lives. rightards are truly stupid.
You see, there's this thing called menopause....
And it makes us not give a fuck about what people think.
Without the tiniest bit of regret....
Pakistan is the central front in the waronterra
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080...pGBo.uxi7us0NUE
Wait, Chimpy's in Africa? I thought he was postponing until the dems bowed to his mighty will.
Gromit
Pelosi and Reid can't wait until Tuesday to capitulate to Mr 24%. I hear that there was talk of suspending President's Day just so they could get back to capitulating a day earlier.
I'm a shitty Quaker,
Apparently.
The Quakers called caraway "Meeting Seed" or "Bible Seed", because it was discretely nibbled to keep their stomachs from growling during thir over-long meetings.
Speaking of creepiness, nothing beats the creepiness of Tweety's crush on the Chimp.
But the Village has never found that the least bit creepy.
Auntie Barmpot, that, and brings out the killer instinct.
I left one of Mlle's dealers whimpering like a scared little boy last week.
watertiger, I think Chimpy is going to make JimmyJeff wear that stuff when he gets home.
It is when that's the form of your dismissal of their concerns or actions.
NTodd
Heh. And yet, the woman in my life gets irrationally mad at me, er, periodically, then apologizes two days later, blaming a certain biological process.
I admit to being confused and uncertain how to deal with that. No doubt I sometimes also react unpredictably and in some biological fashion, so I'm sure she is similarly confused.
And it makes us not give a fuck about what people think.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I'm not sure that's menopause. As I age, I think I have less and less to lose.
Dylan wrote something like these words, in his great song of aging and loss, Highlands.
Moe, no, we're not confused by menstruation. It just sucks.
Power politics, done right....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty
Oh my, thanks for the heads up. I love that movie.
Moe, I personally object to the term.
Northern Illinois shooter -- ex prison guard, ex US Army.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
niu_s...87vBQeUfm6s0NUE
You've gone and gotten Auntie GWPDA'a Irish up now, you have. Run away while you can.
Pelosi and Reid can't wait until Tuesday to capitulate to Mr 24%. I hear that there was talk of suspending President's Day just so they could get back to capitulating a day earlier.
As much as they've let us down the past year, I'll give credit where credit's due.
I'm glad they finally gave Dubya the big ol' "Johnny Cash 'fuck you'" middle finger.
Heh. And yet, the woman in my life gets irrationally mad at me, er, periodically, then apologizes two days later, blaming a certain biological process.
I
Moe Szyslak, two-handed!
Oh fer Chrissake Moe, you're smarter than this.
Rove - attack a candidate's strong points
Auntie Barmpot, that, and brings out the killer instinct.
I left one of Mlle's dealers whimpering like a scared little boy last week.
I like to take as my model Lillian Gish, in The Night of the Hunter.
I was at a meeting of my county Democrats and the Obama supporters had many outbursts. No other candidates' supporters have done that in the year or so I've been attending. So, maybe there's something to it.
HieronymusTheTrollBraintree
-----------------------
The fact of the matter is the country is starving for change and he is the only candidate running who even comes close to that promise. I'm sorry, but Hillary is the same old same old. She is running on her experience of doing the same old things. Voting on aggression with other countries based on lies, not once, but TWICE!!!! She is too much of the problem and too little of the solution. She sold out her values on health care to big Pharma, which now owns a large piece of her.
This country has been wandering in a desert where corporations interests took precedence over peoples needs and rights for 16 years. Bill and Hillary own a large part of that with NAFTA and Hillary with some of the other trade agreements that have come up while she has been a senator. Ross Perot was right. There has been a gigantic sucking sound in America as jobs have left these shores and gone to third world countries where workers can be abused and underpaid and taken advantage of, while Americans have had to settle for Macjobs.
Hillary is part of the problem. To paraphrase Einstein, the same mind that caused the problem, cannot solve the problem.
And it makes us not give a fuck about what people think.
Without the tiniest bit of regret....
Dr. Barmpot Shouty-Crackers
Did the good doctor just curse?
Other than a discreet damn or two, I don't think I've ever seen that.
I had a GF who had inverse periods. She was only nice to me 1 week out of the month.
Hint to men who think their partner's displeasure might be related to PMS.
Do Not Ask, "Do you think your displeasure might be related to PMS?"
Does Not Work.
/Public Service Message
And it makes us not give a fuck about what people think.
Sallyh
"The most dangerous thing in the world is an old lady."
The whole "on the rag" thing is just so fucking stupid. Most women don't go through any *publicly* noticable personality changes with their cycle.
My Candidate has been depriving me of sleep and protein.
PROTECT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!
Actually I just started a blog (Castle Tralfaz) on my myspace page (homepage link working now). Strangely enough, I commented on the robotic vibe I initially got from Obama supporters, as the first post. Nevertheless, I am fully behind Obama now. HRC lost me when she didn't show up for the FISA votes.
"fight fire with fire, I always say!"-Bugs Bunny
Nice way to omit my second paragraph, Adam,
All of us-- male and female-- have mood swings, in part to our biology. Is this not true?
Heh. And yet, the woman in my life gets irrationally mad at me, er, periodically, then apologizes two days later, blaming a certain biological process.
Yes, that does happen in real life. Blaming political actions on PMS, though? That's just sexist crap that plays off the real thing.
I mean, I'll bet some black people at some have, in fact, eaten fried chicken. Do the math...
All of us-- male and female-- have mood swings, in part to our biology. Is this not true?
Moe Szyslak, two-handed
nope. Only women have "biology".
"At this moment, somewhere in the world, terrorists are planning a new attack on America. And Congress has no higher responsibility than ensuring we have the tools to stop them." [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Maybe they're doing it right there in Africa, where Dumbya is.
Does he have the right tool?
"fight fire with fire, I always say!"-Bugs Bunny
Duane V
There's a book there.
Doesn't Obama himself deserve some credit for establishing this cult-lite impression?
"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.
And he said it in SC, reported in the CJR:
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk...caro.php?
page=1
When he [Obama] took the stage he said, “At some point in the evening, a light is going to shine down and you will have an epiphany and you’ll say, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’”
Perhaps he intends is ironically....
Do Not Ask, "Do you think your displeasure might be related to PMS?"
back before the internets and the infinte forward, there were faxes.
I remember that the secretary at the school board had one pinned up:
"Tell me again that it's PMS and I'll staple your nuts to the floor"
Do Not Ask, "Do you think your displeasure might be related to PMS?"
Does Not Work.
/Public Service Message
Gromit
Also very, very stupid
hey all.
I happen to think that a lot of political figures have followers who seem cult-like. However, Democrat-hating MSNBC only highlights Obama's.
as usual, TCB misses by a mile or more. The "culture war" is defined by those waging it: the frightened fat white males of the status quo, who haven't earned an honest dollar in their miserable lives. rightards are truly stupid.
Zod's a coward | 02.16.08 - 10:56 am
And the same can be said of the folks waging a mini-war against multiculturalism in the UK now. No matter how much the folks scared of multiculturalism love their curry and chicken tikka and Chinese takeout, they'd much prefer "those people" to assimilate to British culture and give up their past cultures.
Your candidate's campaign is a cult!!!
YEAH!!!
http://www.obamamessiah.blogspot.com
"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama"
- Barack Obama, Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.
"I have to tell you, you know, it's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg."
- Chris Matthews of MSNBC, New York, New York.
February 12, 2008
and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.
People are highly impressionable.
Perhaps he intends is ironically....
Or perhaps people are reading waaaaay too much into this bullshit.
If RIL is stil here take a look at this movie
I'm curious, do women actually use the term "on the rag"? Mrs. T isn't from around here, so she doesn't know this term...
Repukes worship a goiter
Most women don't go through any *publicly* noticable personality changes with their cycle.
JR
Well, I don't know most women. But the ones I've been intimately involved with...
That said, I would trust just about any woman in the world with nuclear weapons, more than I trust Cheney.
Hillary is part of the problem. To paraphrase Einstein, the same mind that caused the problem, cannot solve the problem.
Obama's also part of the problem. I guess we're at an impasse.
"I'm curious, do women actually use the term "on the rag"? Mrs. T isn't from around here, so she doesn't know this term..."
No.
The fact of the matter is the country is starving for change and he is the only candidate running who even comes close to that promise.
Hillary is part of the problem. To paraphrase Einstein, the same mind that caused the problem, cannot solve the problem.
foolme1ns
You're either going to get what you want with Obama; change, in which case may God have mercy on your soul, or nothing will change, which is what is strongly suggested when one bothers to actually look at the mans voting record and not his rhetoric.
People are highly impressionable.
Duane V
Orit could have been humour.
Some of our politicians have it.
Tralfaz--iirc, the FISA votes Hillary didn't show up for were lopsided, but, hey, if that's what does it, that's it.
Did she miss anything on FISA where her vote would have made a difference? Did Obama influence any of his supporters to change their votes? Serious questions, not snark.
Everybody is part of the problem, but some of us are more part of the problem than others.
Obama is like a black Rasputin or something.
oooohhhh, be afraid:
FBI warns of possible Hezbollah revenge in U.S.
Saturday February 16, 2008 6:16 am
Source: Los Angeles Times
Author: Josh Meyer
Published: http://www.latimes.com/news/
nati...1,3646165.story
WASHINGTON -- The FBI and Department of Homeland Security sent a bulletin Friday to state and local law enforcement authorities advising them to watch for potential retaliatory strikes by Hezbollah, one day after the Lebanese militia group vowed to avenge the death of a top commander by attacking Israeli and Jewish targets around the world.
"While retaliation in the U.S. homeland is unlikely, Hezbollah has demonstrated a capability to respond outside the Middle East to similar events in the past," said the intelligence bulletin sent to about 18,000 state and local law enforcement officials late Friday afternoon.
The FBI also said it was intensifying its domestic intelligence-gathering efforts to identify any potential Hezbollah threats in the United States in the aftermath of Tuesday's car-bomb assassination of Imad Mughniyah in Syria.
On Wednesday, the FBI sent a confidential internal bulletin to its 101 Joint Terrorism Task Forces across the country warning of the possible domestic consequences of Mughniyah's killing. As part of that effort, FBI officials at headquarters told the bureau's field offices and multiagency task forces to increase monitoring and surveillance of suspected Hezbollah operatives and to conduct fresh interviews with sources and informants about the U.S.-designated terrorist group, according to two FBI officials.
I'm curious, do women actually use the term "on the rag"? Mrs. T isn't from around here, so she doesn't know this term...
Tralfaz
No, I actually find it pretty insulting.
Maybe they're doing it right there in Africa, where Dumbya is.
Does he have the right tool?
Lime Rickey | 02.16.08 - 11:03 am
GDumbya is a tool. So is KLo. Period.
"I'm curious, do women actually use the term "on the rag"? Mrs. T isn't from around here, so she doesn't know this term..."
Yes, some do, but only when they are asking men if *they* are on the rag.
Blaming political actions on PMS, though? That's just sexist crap that plays off the real thing.
Er, I've never done that. Clearly, political viewpoints and actions are lifelong processes, thoughtfully considered. At least they should be.
My, I felt this thrill going up my leg."
- Chris Matthews of MSNBC, New York, New York.
And uncontrollable foaming at the mouth at the sight of Bush's codpiece, undoubtedly stuffed with contents of his sock drawer, are symptoms of sick man-crush disease.
You're either going to get what you want with Obama; change, in which case may God have mercy on your soul, or nothing will change, which is what is strongly suggested when one bothers to actually look at the mans voting record and not his rhetoric.
Adam Hominem | 02.16.08 - 11:06 am | #
Yes, not only are all of us citizen Obama supporters stupid and impressionable, but Lakoff and Barabara Lee and David Obey and Barbara Ehrenreich and Kata Pollit and so on all are stupid and impressionable. Thanks god for clear eyed thinkers like you or we'd be all lost.
Also very, very stupid
No kidding. Darwinian selection should have eliminated male discussion of PMS by now.
Must be a spontaneous mutation that keeps cropping up.
Abandon ship, Moe. It's the only thing to do.
Some women say "on the rag." Some don't.
"The most dangerous thing in the world is an old lady."
You should've seen this guy's face when instead of my pretty daughter going to make a buy, this little old gramma walked up to him, smiling, and very sweetly telling him that if he ever came near my daughter or any of my family members, he was going to be very, very dead.
Then I turned over Mlle's cell phone to the police. Had a lot of useful info in it for them.
Uh, gang? Hillary is what, 61? 62? She's most likely long past the monthly cycle of hormones which might have an affect.
Nice way to omit my second paragraph, Adam,
Moe Szyslak, two-handed!
Moe, I did it for reasons of conciseness, not to manipulate the conversation.
I didn't mean to offend you.
And, after Lillian Gish, Katharine Hepburn as Eleanor is quite a splendid example of whole-life womanhood.
Er, I've never done that. Clearly, political viewpoints and actions are lifelong processes, thoughtfully considered. At least they should be.
I don't believe I said you've ever done it.
PROTECT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!
NTodd, Löving Führer
Every sperm is sacred.
"I'd hang you from the nipples, but you'd shock the chilren."
And when I get that feeling...
Obama should pick this song as his theme.
Uh, gang? Hillary is what, 61? 62? She's most likely long past the monthly cycle of hormones which might have an affect.
jawbone
She's 60, and you're right.
Hillary is 60, IIRC.
That said, I would trust just about any woman in the world with nuclear weapons, more than I trust Cheney.
Moe Szyslak, two-handed
Men have as many mood swings due to biological fluctuations as women. It's a non-issue.
Abandon ship, Moe. It's the only thing to do.
blerb
True. I apologize for offending. I blame a build up of testosterone.
My, I felt this thrill going up my leg."
- Chris Matthews of MSNBC, New York, New York.
Tweety, which leg?
Do you dress right or left?
Inquiring minds need to know.
My, I felt this thrill going up my leg."
- Chris Matthews of MSNBC, New York, New York.
It was running down your leg, Chris, and it wasn't a thrill.
Can I offer you a tampon?
Everybody is part of the problem, but some of us are more part of the problem than others.
Indeed.
Some women say "on the rag." Some don't.
Moe Szyslak
I think that Canadian women are a bit more agressive on the language front, in general, than USian women. That is, they will take terms that men use and use them against them.
All of us-- male and female-- have mood swings, in part to our biology. Is this not true?
Moe Szyslak
Seriously, most months I hardly knew I had a period and others even I could see the irrationality of some my actions. never interferred with what I needed to get done.
The term "on the rag" is highly offensive. At least to me.
"I'd hang you from the nipples, but you'd shock the chilren."
blerb, self-reeferential
Saw that in The Last King of Scotland. Eww.
And coke to madamab.
Uh, gang? Hillary is what, 61? 62? She's most likely long past the monthly cycle of hormones which might have an affect.
Hot flashes.
Every sperm is sacred.
Sinfonian, spanning Teh Wang
Spill the seed, kill a child, I always say!
Obamania is a cult? Did CNN even cover the 2004 GOP convention?
Then I turned over Mlle's cell phone to the police. Had a lot of useful info in it for them.
Sallyh
Hee hee.
mmm, thanks Sinf!
I read that you met Bob Graham and got a nice letter from his wife. Good for you!
sheetzes.
The term "on the rag" is highly offensive. At least to me.
And me.
And I think the senator is far, far too intelligent to have used the word "periodically" by accident.
Yes, not only are all of us citizen Obama supporters stupid and impressionable, but Lakoff and Barabara Lee and David Obey and Barbara Ehrenreich and Kata Pollit and so on all are stupid and impressionable. Thanks god for clear eyed thinkers like you or we'd be all lost.
rootless-e
Maybe I'm the stupid one, but your list of individuals supporting Obama seems to me to miss the point.
The point was, "change" is a multi-faceted thing, and often we change one thing and unexpected and incredible undesirable things occur.
The second point I made was that the man is not who he pretends to be, which is pretty simple, I think.
A lot of great people support Obama, and I have no problem with that. ( A lot of great people support Hillary, too). The calculus is complex, tho, and reasonable and decent people can do the calculation and come up with different answers.
Just as you and I have done.
Obama's creepy cult-like supporters?
Carol Costello is brain dead.
The republic establishment is scared shitless of this cat.
Obamania is a cult? Did CNN even cover the 2004 GOP convention?
GP
No, only Democrats have cult followers. Republics have enthusiastic supporters.
/MCM Dictionary
The term "on the rag" is highly offensive. At least to me.
qlª
Yes, which is why it's so effective when dealing with male MoT (our DMV) clerks.
Darwinian selection should have eliminated male discussion of PMS by now. Must be a spontaneous mutation that keeps cropping up.
Hot flashes.
NTodd, Löving Führer
See? There's one right now!
I'd keep men away from red meat if the had access to "the button". Makes 'em aggressive.
how potent is john mccain, that's what i want to know. if the question of hillary's hoo-ha functionality is relevant, what about his wang? does it still wave patriotically on command? if so, does he take any drugs to sustain that?
surely these are relevant question and i expect the press to get right on them, for 'balance.'
Barack Obama = Maraca Kabob
The unwashed masses are only allowed to participate in the political process in ways that do not ursurp or contradict the wise, all-knowing and benevolent punditry.
You get actual people choosing who they want as a candidate, and look what happens - the Village gets trashed!
Georgetown dinner parties get crashed by people who have no appreciation for the social circuits of Nantucket, the kind of people who might actually drink beer at a black tie gala - and right out of the bottle.
The republic establishment is scared shitless of this cat.
billy b
Hasn't been neutered yet.
I'd keep men away from red meat if the had access to "the button". Makes 'em aggressive.
Duane V
Fortunately, they gave Dumbya a play button that he can push whenever he gets cranky.
Barack Obama = Maraca Kabob
Jared Wolfhope
MMmmmm, sounds tasty!
And my considered opinion is that everybody needs to take a freaking chill pill. I've been watching for years as everyone, myself included, has begun to exhibit some old monkey behavior which is to start screeching at each other louder and louder until everyone is deaf.
The same old fears keep it going though as each individual or group or side or whatever refuses to lower the rhetorical volume first for fear of giving advantage to their opponents. "Our concerns, grievances, etc are REAL!" they insist as though those calling for calm were disputing the legitimacy of the claim and not merely the decibel level at which it is being put forth.
My question is then: How do we convince the aggrieved parties that once they lower the volume we won't just be glad to be quit of the noise and ignore the issues they raise?
and festive!
"I'm curious, do women actually use the term "on the rag"? Mrs. T isn't from around here, so she doesn't know this term..."
I used to hear it often - in Middle School.
Haven't heard it much since then.
From the Krugman Column quoted by MM:
"In 1956 Adlai Stevenson, running against Dwight Eisenhower, tried to make the political style of his opponent’s vice president, a man by the name of Richard Nixon, an issue. The nation, he warned, was in danger of becoming “a land of slander and scare; the land of sly innuendo, the poison pen, the anonymous phone call and hustling, pushing, shoving; the land of smash and grab and anything to win. This is Nixonland.”"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/1.../
11krugman.html
"obama: "I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal,"he told reporters."
"You challenge the status quo and suddenly the claws come out." -Senator Barack Obama
At Chelsea events: After Steven Lawrence, a student on the Madison campus, left Ms. Clinton’s event wearing a campaign sticker, another student yelled, “I’m ashamed of you!”
...
Elsewhere, Ms. Clinton has been confronted with signs bearing messages like “America deserves better than aristocracy” and “Got Pimp?”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/
1...sMYvZKlOv+AOowg
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, another member of the Congressional Black Caucus:
"I had a person in my district send out a newsletter, for which I know he didn't pay, distributed primarily in the African-American community, in which he suggested that I had been paid by Sen. Clinton to support her. I don't know if there's anyone who [is African American] who hasn't taken some grief for supporting Sen. Clinton."
Too mnay more examples to copy and paste. And of course there are the attacks on Krugman. The son he doesn't have works for Clinton, he was in the Clinton admin when he wasn't and more. Unpack those attacks and they are prety disgusting.
obamaland.
"Costello reported that "some" find it "creepy" that Obama supporters "wildly respond" to him, "chanting enthusiastically."
Hmm, May I enter Exhibit A, any average Football game.
obamaland.
hadenough
And to think, all because Rover wants to run against someone named "Hussein".
Reading this makes me angrier and angrier. Shuster made this OK and an issue, dammit, damn him. This is ugly not just for Chelsea and the Clintons, but all women. Hillary's campaign has gone after MSNBC's Locker Room Boys' Club not just bcz of what they're doing to Hillary (and now Chelsea), but because it does affect how all women are perceived.
From the NYTimes link at hadenough's above.
Ms. [Chelsea] Clinton has been confronted with signs bearing messages like “America deserves better than aristocracy” and “Got Pimp?” a reference to a recent remark by a now-suspended MSNBC host who claimed that Mrs. Clinton was exploiting her daughter.
SNIP
There is no asking Ms. Clinton, who does not give interviews, exactly why she threw herself into her mother’s bid — which, if successful, will rob her of some of the privacy she is said to cherish.
But a furious, provocative essay that Ms. Clinton mass-blasted to her friends and acquaintances on Feb. 4 provides clues. She wrote that she did not agree with everything the essay’s author, Robin Morgan, a former editor of Ms. Magazine, said. (Ms. Morgan argues that Mrs. Clinton has faced not only a sexist double standard but also “sociopathic woman-hating.”)
But until jeering men insulted her mother in New Hampshire and the news media made light of it, Ms. Clinton wrote, “I confess I didn’t entirely get ‘it.’ ”
Thanks, hadenough. If Obamaphiles don't want to get called a cult, they should stop acting like they belong to one. I realize that not every Obama backer behaves this way, but too many who don't, refuse to rein in the ones that do.
In my family my nephew publicly pledges on his Facebook profile to leave the country if Obama is not nominated. (Is there a Hillary supporter anywhere who talks like this?) When I comment to my brother in law about the unhelpfulness of this attitude, he tells me he doesn't see the problem. So when I see others like Krugman commenting on the same phenomenon, I conclude that my experience is not merely anecdotal.
In my family my nephew publicly pledges on his Facebook profile to leave the country if Obama is not nominated. (Is there a Hillary supporter anywhere who talks like this?)
See Erica Jong's second letter in which she promises to move to Canada if Hillary is not nominated.
And get a life.
>See Erica Jong's second letter in which she promises to move to Canada if Hillary is not nominated.
Did not know about Jong but that's idiotic and unhelpful too. See how easy that was? And I didn't even tack on a personal insult, like Obamaphile rootless-e does.
Sen. Barack Obama’s health care plan and forthrightness will push Texas Democrats to choose him over Sen. Hillary Clinton in the fight to be the Democratic U.S. presidential nominee, said state Sen. Kirk Watson, D-Austin, in a conference call with reporters this afternoon.
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/
c...ealth_care.html
South Dakota Democrats say they think Obama is more popular than Clinton in the state.
"The overall mood of this state probably leans toward Obama," said state Democratic chairman Jack Billion.
Democrat Nicholas Nemec, the state's Democratic National Committeeman and a superdelegate, says Obama's support in the state is probably a combination of his popularity and Hillary Clinton's unpopularity.
"South Dakota is a pretty bright red state, and I think a lot of South Dakota Democrats were sick of being beat around the head and shoulders with the Clinton name," Nemec said.
http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/
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On line I've met many cultish ass hole Obama supporters. But most of those were cultish assholes before they ever heard of Obama.
Face to face every Obama supporter I've met has been just like Hillary supporters. They want to get rid of the republicans more than anything. They're more than happy to support whoever gets elected.
I posted this on the dead thread and I'm -a-posting it again.
no, it's not a cult...
from an Izvestia on the Hudson article about Chelsea Clinton campaigning for her mother,"Elsewhere, Ms. Clinton has been confronted with signs bearing messages like “America deserves better than aristocracy” and “Got Pimp?” a reference to a recent remark by a now-suspended MSNBC host who claimed that Mrs. Clinton was exploiting her daughter."
just a little pre-massive smear campaigne testing and tuning the smear machine in case Obama wins the dem nomincation. the cult of republicanism never expected Obama had any chance to actually win so their was no point establishing their smears. They used the opportunity to generate a little obfuscation smokescreen for the republican propagandizing.
But now they need to get going on getting their Obama smear plank worked out. HRC, they've got plenty of material. Obama not so much YET.
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Can Obama supporters ever respond with anything other than 'She started it!' or 'Somebody else did it too!'
I think somebody voted for Obama!
if smoking suppresses appetite, does this mean we can look forward to the obama dumpling?
a cult? you mean like christianity, mormonism, scientology, or pinkberry? if this obama cult ends the war, stops torturing people with my tax dollars, and fixes the economy, then cult me up!
The presidential race, including the primaries, should be akin to candidates applying for a job. An important job, but a job.
It is fair to consider Americans who treat the job applicants as heroes or saviors creepy.
But this is not just an Obama thing. As other commenters mentioned, it's there for Paul, Reagan, all the way back to Goldwater.
To continue the analogy, consider a group of managers deciding on a hire. One of them says he won't consider anyone else for the position but his first preference, regardless of what the other managers think. Cult-like is unfair, but childish seems rather accurate.
They are creepy and cult like.
Also, sorry you can't afford to buy a house, but it's kind of pathetic to see how gleeful you are at the misfortune of others who have lost homes. I guess you're just a jealous, apartment-dwelling cult member.
Oh, and thanks for speaking out against the latest offensive remarks coming from the Obama campaign, Mister Chubby Media Matters Boy.
I love how Obama supporters continually denounce Hillary for her iraq vote, but seem fine with the fact that Obama publicly endorsed Joe Lieberman over Ned Lamont. In the Obama world where speeches count as actually doing something (because that speech is about Obama's only action on Iraq besides ensorsing Lieberman), this should be a horrible crime. Any objective analysis would find Obama a huge disappointment on Iraq. But that is hard to do while basking in his warm glow.
As for the cult stuff...it is CREEPY. I don't know what it is like where you live, but here in Austin they walk around in matching Obama t-shirts, marching in a line, and chanting "YES WE CAN." This is just not something they do during rallies (Obama hasn't visited Texas in quite some time, despite the fact that we have some sort of election coming up here), but this kind of thing just happens on a Tuesday night. That's just not normal. "Creepy" is exactly the right word.
His general lack of substance is the main reason I don't support him. Despite all the promises and hope when he went to the senate, he has done squat about the Iraq war other than give a speech. Or did I miss where he used his magical persuasive powers to get the senate to cut off funding. Did I miss the actual time he kept his promise and voted against funding the war. Did I not see the huge consensus he built between Republican and Democrats on a withdrawal plan like he claims he can do as president. The guy has just been a disappointment.
But the thing that really drives me away from the guy is seeing these Obamatrons walk around chanting, and talk of "messianism" and "the one." It is just too cult-of-personality for me. (The Che poster in the Houston Obama office didn't help dispel that feeling much.)
Maybe he'll wake up in the morning and find his supporters outside his window saying in unison "We are all different!"
This George W Bush guy, I like him, ya know? He talks about compassion, and a humbler foreign policy. He's not the usual psuedo-libertarian big-stick basketcase who thinks the next best thing to asking for raise is starving to death, but the kind of conservative I could have a near-beer with. What creeps me out are his supporters, who act as if he's the second coming of Jesus H. Reagan. It's like a fucking cult.
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