I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Yesssssssss.
so close
I wonder if it's at the kos site linked below?
I'll continue my winning ways.
Finally - that thread was smelly
If'n it's liberal, it's not on teevee.
Finally - that thread was smelly
DWD - Reaching Tinder Point |
i knew i'd come in on the ass end.
Definitely time to start drinking liberally.
from below:
dooh nibor, to the rescue!
dirk gently, sociopathetic© | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 2:23 pm | #
Ntodd's non-blog ?
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 2:23 pm | #
robin hood, in reverse.
Um, eh?
It's so funny that all the fox dudes are ranting about Kos. If I didn't know about his website before last week, I would have checked it out just to see what I'd been missing.
Jim Cramer could use a little valium, you know?
YAWN.
"And if you elect me, I promise to fight for the Constitution"
(6 months later)
Votes to Spy on Americans
Votes to keep troops in Iraq
I'm getting very fed up.
If I didn't know about his website before last week, I would have checked it out just to see what I'd been missing.
footloose | 08.04.07 - 2:25 pm | #
you'd think they would have learned something from the al franken debacle.
Dodd:
I voted to appoint Roberts...so sue me!
Jim Cramer could use a little valium, you know?
I'd recommend a bit of poverty myself. But that's just me.
The Kenosha Kid
Too cool - thanks
I'm getting very fed up.
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 2:26 pm | #
me too.
I voted to appoint Roberts...so sue me!
Zap Rowsdower, Own3r
can we do that?
I don't trust Richardson one bit. He's ambitious, to be sure, and his treatment of the Wenn Ho Lee incident while Secretary of Engergy was shameful.
'm getting very fed up.
Gilly Gonzylon | 08.04.07 - 2:26 pm | #
me too.
dirk gently
Yesterday I was driving behind a car with Texas plates and a "Had enough?" bumper sticker.
A brief warm fuzzy.
I don't trust Richardson one bit. He's ambitious, to be sure, and his treatment of the Wenn Ho Lee incident while Secretary of Engergy was shameful.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 08.04.07 - 2:28 pm | #
Then there's the plumpiness factor.
Well, that was a pretty good answer by Hillary on health care.
OMG, Jim Cramer actually demanding that the Fed guarantees everyone gets 21 at the blackjack table.
Well, that was a pretty good answer by Hillary on health care.
blerb
I was skeptical of her retail skills, but she's pretty good.
I don't trust Richardson one bit.
He old school DLC. What folks don't point out is that right now the "Middle" is to the right of Eisenhower, and Nixon in some respects.
OMG, Jim Cramer actually demanding that the Fed guarantees everyone gets 21 at the blackjack table.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 08.04.07 - 2:30 pm | #
not "anyone" - only the high rollers.
Well, that was a pretty good answer by Hillary on health care.
Platitudes and empty rhetoric just don't work for me anymore.
If the Fed were to drop rates at this point, it really would be Armageddon.
OMG, Jim Cramer actually demanding that the Fed guarantees everyone gets 21 at the blackjack table.
Yeah, it's classic.
This feed's kinda groggy...
I think I'll pass on the rest of it.
Flash video is the worst thing ever to come from YouTube.
Reward good behavior! Give candidates some props below when you hear something you like!
http://www.actblue.com/page/ykforum
Flash video is the worst thing ever to come from YouTube.
puppethead | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 2:32 pm |
Low bitrate flash, for sure.
Flash video is the worst thing ever to come from YouTube.
puppethead |
it came from macromedia (now adobe) - youtube just figured out a way to make it annoying on a large scale.
Jim Cramer could use a little valium, you know?
I'd recommend a bit of poverty myself. But that's just me.
I think a winter in Chicago with no money or plastic and dressed in golf clothes would do the asshole a world of good.
Maybe the Hamster is just at death's door.
Nathan Woodhull | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 2:33 pm | #
Go Edwards!
I'm an Edwards supporter, but that was not an answer to the question, it's his stump speech.
Low bitrate flash, for sure.
Gilly Gonzylon
No, the user interface. It's crap, just crap. Clearly not Scottish.
(And I know who made Flash video, but it was YouTube that turned using it into a common and, sadly, acceptable thing.)
I'm an Edwards supporter, but that was not an answer to the question, it's his stump speech.
I agree. All we're getting from these candidates is words, lies and empty promises.
Did they just boo Richardson? The feed skipped
i'm not watching the candidate forum, but i did find this interesting:
http://www2.kucinich.us/node/4871
...Edwards comes out as the noncompromise candidate. Something like "I don't think insurance companies, drug companies, and oil companies will willingly give up their power..."
That's a safe bet.
Yeah, they booed Richardson - over his support for the line item veto, I think.
Oh, cheap pander mentioning your spat with BIllO, Senator.
No, the user interface. It's crap, just crap. Clearly not Scottish.
i think we should be able to manually inflate a big bladder with air, then squeeze it out to control the video feed.
"And if you elect me, I promise to fight for the Constitution"
(6 months later)
Votes to Spy on Americans
Votes to keep troops in Iraq
I'm getting very fed up.
Gilly Gonzylon
The Two Party System - it sucks big time!
Something like "I don't think insurance companies, drug companies, and oil companies will willingly give up their power..."
throw in "republican party, dlc, and k-street"
I think they are holding a fish rodeo in my tubes. I can't see the colortinis anymore. I know it's important to see Hillary Clinton's boobage, John Edwards hairage, and Obama's Iranian dress suit but it's actually more important to HEAR the ideas these people are spouting - something I can't do with the choppy ass USTREAM feed. Neil Arstrong had a better connection from the frackin' moon.
Clinton on media consolidation: "Yeah, we need to do more."
Gee. Ya think?
And if you elect me, I promise to fight for the Constitution
Great. You're obliged to do so anyway.
"Clinton on media consolidation: "Yeah, we need to do more.""
I want that clarified - what will be done more? or does this mean we need to consolidate the media more?
Edwards: Senator Obama doesn't take money from Washington loobyists.
(translation: FU, HRC)
I'm ready to welcome Dodd into the top tier of candidates. I think he has a lot to offer. Perhaps his destiny is as a running mate for Clinton or Obama. The downside is that his from the Senate would give a Republican governor a chance to choose his replacement.
Wild cheering seems to shut down the streaming from YKos.... Edwards was just saying take no money from big lobbyists, challenge Rethugs to do the same (like that will happen), crowd went crazy--and now silence.
The downside is that his from the Senate would give a Republican governor a chance to choose his replacement.
Chairman Mo
yes, that would be awful - i mean, imagine if the senate had a republican majority! they'd probably vote in favor of, say, warrantless wiretapping and oppose, say, troop withdrawl.
awful.
Or else NSA cut off the Internet flow from YKOS....think they've got the power to do anything once the Senate caved....
Edwards: Senator Obama doesn't take money from Washington loobyists.
(translation: FU, HRC)
Jim
Can also be read as, "Can I be your choice for VP?"
the video stream, she is atrios'd.
Gee, maybe the small gods of the toobs actually want me to turn off the fucking computer.
OK, until Al Gore announces I'm an Edwards man.
is kucinich even there?
OK, until Al Gore announces I'm an Edwards man.
lipreader | 08.04.07 - 2:47 pm | #
Right On.
Jeez--finally it's back--looooooonnnng outage--and still breaking up.
OK, until Al Gore announces I'm an Edwards man.
lipreader
me too
but this really is a panderfest all around
Can also be read as, "Can I be your choice for VP?"
Bobby, Who ♥ Al Gore
Senator Biden came on Letterman earlier this week and offered to be Dave's VP.
WTF? Just bow out now.
is kucinich even there?
He would be greeted as liberator. Everybody at dKos loves them some DennisK. FOR POOPING ON!
"this really is a panderfest all around"
couldn't that describe presidential politics in general?
Jeez--finally it's back--looooooonnnng outage--and still breaking up.
Cripes - this is the visual equivalent of a tin can and string phone.
OK, until Al Gore announces I'm an Edwards man.
Yeah. He seems to be my choice as well. As much as he fucks up, he's still the most progressive candidate.
Biden had his chance, and copy and pasted it away, long ago.
He should just shut the fuck up and take his fucking pension from MBNA and go fucking away.
is kucinich even there?
He would be greeted as liberator. Everybody at dKos loves them some DennisK. FOR POOPING ON!
NTodd,
I don't think Gravel or Kucinich have said a word, have they?
Yeah. He seems to be my choice as well. As much as he fucks up, he's still the most progressive candidate.
Kucinich might have a thing or two to say about that...
Fish rodeo? I'm stealin' that.
I don't think Gravel or Kucinich have said a word, have they?
Jim
No, but Gravel did throw a big rock into the front row.
but this really is a panderfest all around
Yep. Why did they all feel the need to wear biz formal at a casual convention?
"this really is a panderfest all around"
couldn't that describe presidential politics in general?
Unfortunately, yes.
No politician is willing to get up and say "you can't have everything because the game is fixed against you and I won't do shit to address that."
As much as he fucks up, he's still the most progressive candidate.
smalfish,bikerider
Well, the most progressive candidate with a chance in hell of getting the nomination... 
"I don't think insurance companies ... will willingly give up their power"
i don't see how mandating that everyone has to buy their product will make them less powerful ...
Dennis the K speaketh!
Impeach Cheney!
Too bad it all boils down to the "Undecided" vote on election day (sans E-voting fraud, of course). I'm waving my arms around right now and looking crosseyed - my best impersonation of "These People".
At this point I would be content with any combination of Edwards, Clinton, and Obama.
Kucinich might have a thing or two to say about that...
Well, ok. But there's no way a hobbit gets elected for president.
Whoohoo! Dennis, you go, guy!
At this point I would be content with any combination of Edwards, Clinton, and Obama.
MANIMAL!
Kucinich might have a thing or two to say about that...
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth
yeah.
(hey, i haven't posted anything since tues - just making up for lost time)
At this point I would be content with any combination of Edwards, Clinton, and Obama.
JeffCO
To quote Mr. Loaf, "Two outta three ain't bad".
Hello.
I may be chaning my name to "Vicki, Who ♥ John E." if my will is not done by Al Gore come October 15th.
Dodd-Better 25 votes that are meaningful than 51 that don't. Did I hear that right?
BTW, Dodd says it's presidency or senate--no VP no way. Says he too old for that. Needs to real power to do a real job.
I think Gravel is taking a nap
Well, the most progressive candidate with a chance in hell of getting the nomination...
lipreader |
the exact attitude that prevented us from having president dean.
Well, ok. But there's no way a hobbit gets elected for president.
Can we please cut the 'electability' crap? Shit, we haven't even gotten to a fucking primary yet.
hrc should have worn a tie - she looks out of place.
Hello.
I may be chaning my name to "Vicki, Who ♥ John E." if my will is not done by Al Gore come October 15th.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I'll copy and paste the ♥ from you.
OK, until Al Gore announces I'm an Edwards man.
I think Edwards comes off better than Al.
But, since I think Al is unbeatable if he runs...
Edwards fortunes may improve, tho.
Can we please cut the 'electability' crap? Shit, we haven't even gotten to a fucking primary yet.
NTodd, Foaming At The Mouth | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 2:53 pm | #
Pissed that your sister state gets to go first?
MANIMAL!
Edwards' hair, Obama's youth, Clinton's cleavage, Kucinich's wife.
Wait.
At this point I would be content with any combination of Edwards, Clinton, and Obama.
I really don't think we have a choice. The nominee has already been selected by "they".
the exact attitude that prevented us from having president dean.
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
Don't blame me for Iowa!
Let's face it, it'll be between Hillary or Barack, and whatever slimeball the Rethugs come up with in Minneapolis.
go gravel.............. geez louise see what happens when you let the other candidates speak!
Yeah. He seems to be my choice as well. As much as he fucks up, he's still the most progressive candidate.
smalfish,bikerider
Edwards finishes a far 2nd in progressivism, in my eyes, to Kucinich, who in 2004, when asked what would be his first decision as prez stated that he would establish a Dept. of Peace!
Michael Ledeen is gonna plotz
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070...qmlye508zKs0NUE
If we want universal health care in this nation, only Edwards has said he will do it--from the git go.
He's more passionate about health care than the others, other than Dennis K, who is nowhere near getting the nomination. But, who knows?
Gravel--I like the over and over cloture votes idea.
But, since I think Al is unbeatable if he runs...
anyone short of ross perot with a D after his/her name is probably unbeatable.
let's not settle.
I really don't think we have a choice. The nominee has already been selected by "they".
I hope you're wrong.
I went on a half hour rant last night to the person on the other end of the phone about why I don't want the candidate to be Hillary.
He listened and let me rage on, like a dutiful lover of Castro.
Pissed that your sister state gets to go first?
Pffft. They can have it. We've got Pat and Bernie.
hasn't kucinich pushed for national healthcare system? I believe he has.
when asked what would be his first decision as prez stated that he would establish a Dept. of Peace!
Bobby, Who ? Al Gore
well, in a competent administration, the State Department should be the Department of Peace.
If we want universal health care in this nation, only Edwards has said he will do it--from the git go.
yes, but he will do it through mandatory private insurance. bad bad bad idea.
single payor not-for-profit and/or universal expansion of meidcare = much better idea.
Of course, there's always the possiblity that "they" will misjudge some candidate, and the candidate when elected will pull an FDR and piss "they" off.
Of course, that was then, this is now, and increasingly it's obvious that "they" will never make that particular mistake again.
yes, but he will do it through mandatory private insurance. bad bad bad idea.
absolutely correct.
hasn't kucinich pushed for national healthcare system? I believe he has.
pigboy |
yes.
he and gravel are the only ones. but gravel has serious problems with how he would fund it - he has this wacky flat tax idea.
kucinich would drop the age restriction for medicare, covering everyone.
yes, but he will do it through mandatory private insurance. bad bad bad idea.
It's a criminal idea. The idea is to eliminate the parasitical monster so that health care is delivered directly to patients from doctors with no bloodsucking vampire corporation intervening to sustain its unholy self.
Gore, if he were running, would have national health care on his platform. He's a single payor kind of dood, iirc.
well, in a competent administration, the State Department should be the Department of Peace.
Jim
I want the Dem president to rename the Department of Defense back to the Department of War. Truth in advertising.
kucinich would drop the age restriction for medicare, covering everyone.
pigboy | 08.04.07 - 2:58 pm | #
very howard dean-like.
I could get elected on the "Abolish insurance companies" platform.
To quote Mr. Loaf, "Two outta three ain't bad".
Stop right theeeeeeeeeeeeere!
Before we go any farther, are you liberal? Be progressive forever? Do you need me? Will you never leave me? Will my vote make me happy for the rest of my life? Will you take Bush away and will you end all our strife?
I gotta know right now:
Are you liberaaaaaaaal? Be progressive foreeeeeeeeeeeeever?
let's not settle.
That's the name of the game.
As Bobby said above, Mr. Potato Head is by far the most progressive candidate. I just don't see someone that far left getting elected president.
Never has.
pigbog, I meant to go back and nuance my comment about only Edwards--what I meant was of the top candidates, only Edwards will tackle health care with passion and commitment.
Damn, Edwards now cutting out again.
I gotta know right now:
Are you liberaaaaaaaal? Be progressive foreeeeeeeeeeeeever?
JeffCO | 08.04.07 - 2:59 pm | #
Para balls by dash bored likes
I'm starting to think that Hillary will actually win the Oval Office. Just a few years ago, I would never have thought that possible.
In obviously more important news:
A-Rod hit # 500.
Look out, Mr. Bonds...
very howard dean-like.
dirk gently, sociopathetic© | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 2:59 pm | #
yep, the longer these kind of debates go on the more people will be exposed to Kucinich which will be good for him and his progressive ideas
take the poll
(not a blogwhore, it's not my site)
So anybody out there have a clue as to how this housing/market debacle will impact the mutual fund investments that the little people have for retirement purposes?
In obviously more important news:
Pay-Rod hit # 500.
FYT.
This Mariner fan will never forgive nor forget.
So anybody out there have a clue as to how this housing/market debacle will impact the mutual fund investments that the little people have for retirement purposes?
lovepat | 08.04.07 - 3:01 pm | #
Let them eat twinkees.
pigbog, I meant to go back and nuance my comment about only Edwards--what I meant was of the top candidates, only Edwards will tackle health care with passion and commitment.
Damn, Edwards now cutting out again.
jawbone | 08.04.07 - 2:59 pm | #
Very true. But using private insurance companies to do it is a bad idea.
Owl I want is a room somewhere...
As Bobby said above, Mr. Potato Head is by far the most progressive candidate. I just don't see someone that far left getting elected president.
yes, but do YOU want him to be?
if everyone voted on that basis, instead of for whom they THINK is most pablum - i meam, palatable, perhaps he would.
don't be a coward, vote your conscience.
I just dropped in to grace the punch bowl with my orange sunshine personality.
Off to chop up fresh veggies that were picked this morning for a scrumptious salad, and various fresh fruities for a mouf-watering, eye exciting melange.
It's a fiber-riffic dinner at the ♥ Al Gore household!
I'm starting to think that Hillary will actually win the Oval Office. Just a few years ago, I would never have thought that possible.
MP
I hate myself for saying this in a way, but then we're fucked. More than as a party, but as a country. Why? Because the fucking media and GOP will team up to destroy her (The President of the United States)taking us (The United States) out with her.
I just LOVE when baseball players get into fights and the rest of the teams come out of the dugout like clowns from a tiny car. MAN, that makes me laugh and laugh.
kos debate s h e e t s
I'm starting to think that Hillary will actually win the Oval Office. Just a few years ago, I would never have thought that possible.
I think HRC is already the next president. I think it's a foregone conclusion, as much as I hate it.
Edwards wants to offer an government program, extension of current insurance offered to fed employees--but he will allow businesses to continue to offer insurance, iirc, and definitely allow the private insurers to compete with the gov't programs.
His approach solves one of the arguments against single payer--how can we put all those people at private insurers out of work? How can we devalue the private insurance company stocks?
With his approach, the public chooses--and most will choose the gov't lower cost, better coverage program versus the same or lower coverage from a for-profit private insurer.
It's good in that in undercuts one of those cute little arguments Rethugs use--it actually leverages their chant of "free market choice" against them, let's the people choose.
"I think HRC is already the next president. I think it's a foregone conclusion, as much as I hate it."
I don't. there are too many people who hate her enough to leave their deathbed to vote against her.
course there are also a large number of people who would do the same to vote against republicans so maybe it's a wash.
If private health insurance wants to stay in buisness that is fine. Just as long as National Healthcare is all inclusive for everyone and for every illness.
yes, but do YOU want him to be?
if everyone voted on that basis, instead of for whom they THINK is most pablum - i meam, palatable, perhaps he would.
don't be a coward, vote your conscience.
If I vote pragmatically, how does that make me a coward?
Let them eat twinkees.
Seen the price of Twinkies lately?
To quote Mr. Loaf, "Two outta three ain't bad".
Stop right theeeeeeeeeeeeere!
Before we go any farther, are you liberal? Be progressive forever? Do you need me? Will you never leave me? Will my vote make me happy for the rest of my life? Will you take Bush away and will you end all our strife?
I gotta know right now:
Are you liberaaaaaaaal? Be progressive foreeeeeeeeeeeeever?
JeffCO | 08.04.07 - 2:59 pm | #
You MUST record this!!
Will Mr. Loaf help?
what a fucking waste of time.
Not one candidate truly represents any real change.
Corporate lite.
Fuk them all.
Byt, A.!!! How *could* you miss out on teh MSM's "Bloggers hate Hillary because she takes money from lobbyists... and teh other candidates hate her, too!"-meme? Of course, mentioning the *louder* boos given to Gravel's 24% sales tax idea... well, that's verboten!
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