I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
These bastards didn't even have to schedule this god damned vote.
Well I'm disgusted.
Good work Harry.
You know, it's getting very hard to argue with the Green believe that there is no difference between the parties. Other than abortion, and gay rights, what practical difference is there? I'm not well-off enough not to care more about the issues that effect other people than the issues that effect me. I'm not gay, and I'm not a wealthy woman, so what does the Democratic party really fucking do that I should care about?
The Iraq Holocaust & Enslaving of America is Bipartisan.
Temporary?
Yeah, right.
Trust me!
I'll take care of you!
Just donate, vote & watch!
This is why we should all vote rethug in 2008. It'll help accellerate the collapse of the USA. Once the USA is in ruins we can think about rebuilding.
I'm disgusted too. And depressed.
Sinfonian has a list of the Dem senators that voted for it.
Sinfonian has a list of the quislingcrat senators that voted for it.
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:21 am | #
fixed your typo
Harry Reid emphasized that yesterday's measure is temporary, and that the Senate will revisit the issue in six months. That's not exactly reassuring. For one thing, Dems will be just as fearful in February as they are now. For another, that's six months of the administration having largely unchecked surveillance power.
What.
A.
Crock.
Nothing like having a majority in Congress. It really has made a difference, hasn't it?
This measure?
Temporary.
Elected Dems Being Capitualte Asshats Who'll Cave to Worse Later?
Permanent.
We own you!
No reason Bush shouldn't be cocky.
Give 'em head, Harry!
I think Agent Orange is correct. They're scared shitless there will be another attack and w will blame the Dems for not giving him the tools he says he needs. Of course they're gonna blame Dems no matter what so they really should do the right thing.
Pelosi and Reid are repub light and both are an utter and complete fucking joke of a failure. Pelosi and Reid should be impeached. Reid and Pelosi only lead when it involves converting the executive's inane authoritarian rants into law. Example FISA. Congress (Senate already House to follow) will yield on FISA, because after all the dems and repubs are both worthless craven for power Shylok like money grubbing corporate whores.
Anyone who thinks any difference exists between the current dems and repubs is a blind fool.
DC needs a naturally occurring wipe out plague while Congress is in session. Trent Lott agrees.
Hey, the Democratic Majority had to think of some way to show support for the Yearly Kos, right?
Why not honesty?
They honestly don't give a fuck about anybody else.
Isn't it a bit early to decide on wanker of the day? Or is this for yesterday?
Hey, don't forget to give some love to Nancy Pelosi too... takes two Houses to tango, you know, so the House Dems have to cave as well (which they will, of course)
If there's another attack it'll be for sure be a false flag operation, maybe involving compromised acoustic warfare engineers from Augsberg college.
Of course they're gonna blame Dems no matter what so they really should do the right thing.
ql-was in NY
This is what I don't understand. When is Congress going to get over its battered spouse syndrome? Do we need to start sending balls to these idiots or what?
Terrorism isn't even a real threat, Jeebus. Think about it. 1993 was the first WTC bombing. 2001 was the second. It took the "supervillains" almost a decade to pull off their attack, and they got lucky and/or the Bush government did everything possible to look the other way.
Just as much death and destruction was caused by bad government during Katrina and the 35W bridge collapse. Our politicians have been fooled into thinking there's a legion of bad guys trying to get us when the real threat is from the GOP and misgovernance.
Isn't it a bit early to decide on wanker of the day? Or is this for yesterday?
yank in london | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:27 am | #
He qualifies for Wanker of the Year for this one.
Do we need to start sending balls to these idiots or what?
Pink slips...
to match their shoes.
Of course they're gonna blame Dems no matter what so they really should do the right thing.
Too true.
The contards won't be happy unless until they've recreated East Germany's Stasi.
I think Agent Orange is correct. They're scared shitless there will be another attack and w will blame the Dems for not giving him the tools he says he needs. Of course they're gonna blame Dems no matter what so they really should do the right thing.
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:26 am | #
Yup. I mean, are these guys really that stupid? Where are their political instincts?
I'm fed up with the lot of them.
Very soon, Yakov Smirnoff will be able to return to Russia and revive his career with new "In Russia, you watch television. In America, television watches you!” jokes.
Total.
Fucking.
Crock.
What, did Lott's ultimatum saying that DC should evacuate because Dems are inviting another attack scare them into this? Christ, not one Repub crossed the line. Why is it, again and again, that Democrats need to compromise, but Republicans can say fuck you all and get every single thing they want like a spoiled brat?
Pelosi, if you let this pass, then fuck you and the Democrats, I'm done with the party. You're acting like this is 2002, where Dems had no power. Instead of listening to the people who have these bastards pegged again and again, you listen to the 'serious' people like Klein and Lieberman. Well, screw you, because you just screwed the country.
...effers never called sheets...
So, this is how this works?
1) Bush breaks law.
2) Congress changes law so that Bush isn't breaking it anymore.
Have I got that straight?
If only Gore had won in 2000.
Then we could look forward to President Lieberman taking over!
Harry Reid emphasized that yesterday's measure is temporary, and that the Senate will revisit the issue in six months. That's not exactly reassuring. For one thing, Dems will be just as fearful in February as they are now. For another, that's six months of the administration having largely unchecked surveillance power.
Of course, it's not reassuring.
He sold us out. This has to stop NOW! This is illegal.
I don't even care about Reid holding up recess appointments now. This. Has. To. Stop.
Fucker.
more sheets
It’s time to hit the phone lines, boys and girls. The House will be taking up the FISA legislation — and I refuse to allow the Constitution and probable cause to go down without a fight. So let’s hit the phones, shall we? (H/T to katymine for the numbers)
1 (800) 828 - 0498
1 (800) 459 - 1887
1 (800) 614 - 2803
1 (866) 340 - 9281
1 (866) 338 - 1015
1 (877) 851 - 6437
Please take some time today to call your elected representative and tell them that you don’t trust the Bush Administration, and neither should they. And while you are at it, let the leadership know that as well:
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, (202) 225-4965
Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, (202) 225-4131
I just called my Rep, Albio Sires and told them that I didn't want to see a collapse like in the Senate, nor allow BUsh and Gonzales even more unchecked power.
Give 'em heck, Harry!
So, the House still has to vote on it, right?
The House Dems seem to have more spine than the Senate...
"Give 'em head, Harry." That's pretty funny.
Please note, also, that Webb voted for it.
Reid is out to protect his own interests,showing his fellow,romney he can be trusted. This weasel must be suffering from acute blackmail or just Wimp Dick Demoitis. He seems to be working hand in hand with this misadministration rectifying the socalled "change" of 2006 and smiling to the offshore bank. "He's a boxer,he knows the rules of the Senate," means he took a DIVE.
I'm disgusted with Reid, and I'll never vote for Mikulski again. Shame on them all.
I'm pissed at Webb-my senator-, I'm pissed at Reid-he needs to be replaced, I'm pissed at Pelosi for not holding it together. Oh wait-it's only good for 6 months. Like that's gonna change in 6 months. dumya will have time to work up an even more outraageous bill for them to cave in to.
But the topper is having Abu Gonzales in charge of it all. What happened to impeachment? Is that now off the table?
Kind of hard to impeach a guy for law violations when you confirm his revisions to same said law! Pelosi was right. Impeachment is definitely off the table now!
The Democrats continue to enable the arch-criminal Bush regime. So what else is new?
and the dems (dumbs) an kiss 08 goodbye! buh bye senate and house, buh bye oval office, buh bye republic and democracy, buh bye civil liberties and hello to perpetual war, a militant state, marshall law, detention centers.
What's all this talk about "Americans making phone calls overseas"????? Tell me where it says in here that the communication has to be overseas:
SEC. 202. ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY FOR EMERGENCY ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE.
Section 105 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1805) is amended--
[...](g)(1)(A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this title and subject to the provisions of this subsection, the Attorney General may, with the concurrence of the Director of National Intelligence , appoint appropriate supervisory or executive personnel within the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency to authorize electronic surveillance on a United States person in the United States on an emergency basis pursuant to the provisions of this subsection.
There is nothing in the above language that I can see, or in the rest of it, that limits this "emergency" power to communications with foreigners.
Give 'em jello, Harry.
~
Dimocrats spooked at the prospect of ChristoFascists l-l-l-l-lurking under their futons...recording...everything..
Let me be a contrary voice, here.
Reid isn't the reason the Dems are disunited. He and most Dems opposed this.
Sixteen didn't.
AgentOrange is right. Per Trent Lott, it's going around there's an anniversary attack coming. Ideal "Dems stabbed us in the back" material.
Given that, most Dems had spine.
More of my thoughts on this at Emphyrio.
There are blackmail and data-mining aspects to this, too.
I'll throw in my Senator Feinsten from California for today's Wanker award...I've sent an angry email today and plan on calling her local and DC offices Monday to tell her outraged I am at the spineless Dems who caved into Bush on this bill.
Anyone from California who reads this should do the same...
The heavens are crying!
As usual, Tom Tomorrow nailed it.
Pretty sure that by the time 'lection rolls around, most Homelanders will feel much more secure if we just kind of sit tight and keep everything the way it is. It'll seem like the sensible thing to do, don't ya know.
Reid has now authorized the AG to spy on whomever the democratic candidate for president happens to be -- and to float video tape (nowherever do you suppose THAT came from) or whatever damaging material can be spun by the GOP campaign.
The GOP obviously think they will govern forever -- this is one more tool they will use to assure that.
How can anyone who has observed the GOP use the State Department,the military, the Justice Department, heck the Surgeon General -- for purely partisan campaign work think that they don't want spying for the same purpose.
Certainly there is no evidence of any particular concern with national security.
Disgusting.
How can they do this?
Dear Senate Democrats,
Quit letting the junta turn our country into East Germany. Bush is at 28 percent approval and only sex offenders like O'Reilly like him
Well of course they caved ... what do you expect them to do?
Job one for the house and senate is (should be) to defend and protect the constitution.
After 6 years of the Cheney administration riding rough-shod over it, job one upon the start of the latest legislative session should have been to redress this (at the least), followed by full and open investigations, impeachment, and if possible, incarceration of guilty parties.
People have said for years, "The dems can't run as Republicans Lite".
Here's the bitter punch line for the people of America: The dems ARE Republicans Lite.
Wont be voting democrat ever again. Fuck you worthless democrats.
The difference between the Democrats and Arlan Spector is that Spector at least has party loyalty as some sort of fig leaf for his "caving" to Bush.
Let's get something straight: the Democrats have "caved" to Bush so often and under such remarkable circumstances that the meme that Bush is somehow "defeating" them is no longer credible. Bush is actually furthering the Democrats' own agenda. They actually do support him and Rove and actually are bipartisan. There is no other explanation. The Democrats are the party of Bush every bit as much as are the Republicans.
Duncan Kinder | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 3:00 pm | #
Absolutely correct. I wonder if a topic about this is part of the Daily KOS fest?
As stated elsewhere, DC needs to tumble hard and soon.
So since the Dems are giving this fascist regime everything they ask for, with only token protest: someone remind me what the point was, of electing them in the first place?
"Oversight"? When they won't even arrest someone who is in blatant, outright contempt of Congress?
snark itself fails me; there's no way to describe the Democrats' uselessness. "
We'd like to do what the majority of Americans want, but we're afraid of what Republicans might say about us."
Fuck the DSCC.
It's not that there are no differences between the parties, the problem is there is a huge difference. The Republicans are arrogantly confident and the Democrats are undeniably a bunch of craven little pussies.
(Cue the Democratic apologists' tortured explanations about why this is actually better for us in the long run. Then swiftly kick the nearest apologist in the ass.)
Another recent example of Democratic pussyhood is their decision to drop the increase in CAFE standards, despite the fact that that policy is overwhelmingly supported across the board among Republican and Democratic voters alike.
This has happened so many times now that I can't be shocked by it, only disgusted.
This is ridiculous.Giving an iota of power to the power-mad criminal Bush gang is as nuts as Tom Tancredo`s statements about nuking our allies.
What the hell is going on in this country.
Harry Reid isn`t the whole problem.The problem is the 17 Senators who voted with the Rethugs,and the Rethugs as well.How could this bill get one vote.It`s nuts.To hell with these idiots.
I`ve had it.I`m going to the Simpson`s movie
Somebody remind me why I should vote Democratic? I am sitting here every day saying that Bush should be impeached for breaking the law. Instead of punishing Bush for breaking the law, a Democratic-controlled Congress changes the law so Bush is no longer breaking it?
What the fuck?
Seriously, what..the..fuck?
The Rethugs know they're gonna get the corporate money, no matter what. The Wimpocrats are scared they might not and act accordingly............ and we all have to live with the result.
Fuck Harry Reid and the horse he rode in on.
"Isn't it a bit early to decide on wanker of the day? Or is this for yesterday?"
yank in london | Homepage | 08.04.07 - 11:27 am | #
"He qualifies for Wanker of the Year for this one."
Barbarism Begins at Home
-Hear, hear!
Maybe Harry just wanted to wear that pink tutu one more time.
I'm not sure why, but the democrats in congress all seem to think that their constituency consists of sunday talk show hosts, instead of the people who voted them into office.
The polls clearly show that, no matter how much dems get beat up in the media, the people want them to face up to bush and deny him a) his war b) his assault on civil liberties c) his desire to rape social security d) well, just about everything he wants.
I expect any day to read that the dems have "compromised" on more tax breaks, privatizing social security, and a bush demand that the 2008 elections be postponed indefinitely.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Look at the list of senate democrats and find me the RELIABLE liberal - you know, the one who actually votes the way he or she talks on a CONSISTENT basis:
Democratics in both houses are too stupid to understand that fear of being painted in some unflattering light is killing the party's chances in 08. How do you energize voters when everything you do is the opposite of what you were voted in to accomplish?
It doesn't matter what Democrats do, the corporate media is going to slime them. So, they might as well do the right thing. The electorate understands that the media is in the tank for the right wing. Voters sent a clear message in 06 - they want these a-holes to stand up for principle, rather than always caving in to the most unpopular president in modern times.
The media is irrelevant. Want proof: Gore's victory in 00 and Kerry's in 04. Both ran horrendous campaigns, and still the won the popular vote. We all know what happened in Ohio in 04. I'm sure most of you have heard that something like 60 of 88 counties in Ohio mysteriously "lost" their ballots from that election.
Oh, and Diane Feinstein - thanks for dropping the ball on electronic voting reform for the 08 election - what's so hard, we all vote on paper ballots.
The real problem in this country right now is not the GOP. They're not in the majority. The problem is that our democrats are really GOP lite. With very few exceptions, no one is representing the left, and it's taking us down the road to fascism at mock speed.
Any one of those 16 could have blocked this. I am particularly upset and disappointed by Jim Webb. He should know better, and this is a huge betrayal of the netroots whose support got him elected.
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