I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Dickweed.
hi
Senator Dickweed, that is.
this thing is messing with me
fif
Excellent choice!
that's almost like a twofer wanker of the day as he was filling in for Hiatt 
Rockefeller did not do much to hold BushCo's feet to the fire when he was in the minority.
He's truly dreadful in the majority.
Would a Dem replace him if he retired?
How much did he get from the telcos?
Yeah, no corruption here...
my pick for wanker, harry reid:
http://miaculpa.blogspot.com/200...ker-of-
day.html
Is he married to Lois on Family Guy?
He's being well paid by the tecos.
He's going to wank on this until there's no wanking left in him. Then he'll wank some more. We're going to have to flank his wank with some Democrats not yet under the thrall of all those telecom bucks.
omg it is halloween, thanks for mentioning, i prolly better get something to feed the neighborhood chil'run.
If they did the right thing, they won't be prosecuted.
salon? won't click their fucking links...
If they did the right thing, they won't be prosecuted.
Halfdan
You forgot the joke tags.
I'm wondering if it was Karen Hughes who granted Blackwater immunity.
[/adjusts tin foil hat]
You know, I always used that line about "keeping the elephants away" as a joke.
Now it's become the basis of our legislative policy. "Seen any terrorist acts on American soil since 9/11? Then our deterrence is working!"
Good grief.
A real Halloween horror.
Don't say I didn't warn you. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Would a Dem replace him if he retired?
Nah, another rockefeller, they breed.
Who will protect the poor telecom giants?
As the operational details of the program remain highly classified, the companies are prevented from defending themselves in court. And if we require them to face a mountain of lawsuits, we risk losing their support in the future.
Gibberish. Nonsense. Bullshit, even.
I'm gonna dress up as 9/11 and go to Jay's house tonight. I should be able to get anything I want.
And if we require them to face a mountain of lawsuits, we risk losing their support in the future.
How are we going to illegally spy on Americans if we punish people for illegally spying now?
gotta go--back in a while
They're not going to be prosecuted.
They don't even want to be sued.
Listen, if we don't give the Telecoms exactly what they want they will give all their private information and evesdropping capabilites to the other side - the Moslem Terrerists. They's tough negotiators.
I fear for Greenwald.
My, this is just peachy-keen!
Limited immunity has been routinely offered to private security contractors involved in shootings in Iraq, State Department officials said Tuesday, denying such actions jeopardized criminal prosecution of Blackwater USA guards accused of killing 17 Iraqi civilians....
At the State Department, [State Department spokesman Sean] McCormack said "these kinds of issues are not new." He said Justice Department officials "can take steps to work around" any limited immunity agreements. "They provide limited protections that would not preclude a successful criminal prosecution," he said.
A second senior State Department official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing inquiry, said the agency has for years required its security contractors to give written statements within hours of any so-called "use of deadly force" in Iraq.
Waivers granting a security worker limited immunity — by barring those statements in a criminal case against the worker — are a "routine part" of the investigations by the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the official said.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com
[cue orchestra]
This is Jay Rockefeller's first Wanker of the Day award, and he is the third person named "Jay," after Carney and Severin, to take the prize.
[orchestra end]
As the operational details of the program remain highly classified, the companies are prevented from defending themselves in court. And if we require them to face a mountain of lawsuits, we risk losing their support in the future.
Obey. The. Law.
dead threaded again! But I want to continue the conversation with my esteemed wombat
How do we live together? Not a straightforward question.
Prof Wombat,
I think there is a categorical error in that person's logic. No one is asking him or her to embrace homosexuality or abortions or whatever. He or she even says that he doesn't hate homosexuals. So all the university is doing is stressing tolerance. That writer is saying that I don't want to be tolerant. That is a far cry from diversity. They made this shit up in the 1950s and 1960s about blacks on college. Then they worried about not having same sex dorms. Then they blew gaskets with the idea of same sex bathrooms. It's just more David Horowitz noise that obscures the good work that universities and college do in introducing students to the larger intellectually rich and complicated world.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger | 10.31.07 - 10:16 am | #
Still looking for a rule clarification - if I have a package of Almond Joys, and Butterfingers and little chocolate bars, do I have to give them away just because some little kid asks for them? What if I give out celery and bread-and-butter pickles instead - is that acceptable? What about those little travel sized cans of Herdez salsa fresca?
And if we require them to face a mountain of lawsuits, we risk losing their support in the future.
I love the smell of creeping fascism in the morning
Yeah, the telecoms aren't equipped to handle "a mountain of lawsuits."
Damn freedom-lovers trying to run our mom-and-pop operations out of business.
Herdez Salsa Fresca? Si!
This is Jay Rockefeller's first Wanker of the Day award, and he is the third person named "Jay," after Carney and Severin, to take the prize.
"His acceptance speech is, of course, classified. Now applaud or be waterboarded"
[cue orchestra]
This is Jay Rockefeller's first Wanker of the Day award, and he is the third person named "Jay," after Carney and Severin, to take the prize.
[orchestra end]
Sinfonian
Dude, you really need to get laid.
It's always been about a power grab, and never about national security. Addington and Cheney's other lawyerly thugs have nicely closed the loop with the "state secrets" privilege and immunity for AT&T. THIS is why Nixon should have been impeached: so Cheney and his ilk would have been exposed in 1974 and driven out of government for ever.
This is Jay Rockefeller's first Wanker of the Day award, and he is the third person named "Jay," after Carney and Severin, to take the prize.
You're the Raymond Babbit of WOTD
You know, it's almost as if Jay Rockefeller has a vested interest in big business and protecting the rich.
I have a solution!!
certify a class of all people the telecoms spied on!!
then there is ONE lawsuit! woot.
7:17am and dark as night; "Daylight Savings" my tuchus!
From downstairs:
The angry woman, a school employee with short reddish hair wearing a yellow FAU polo shirt, stood close to Akhtar and, according to the student and a dozen or so witnesses, muttered, "You don't belong here."
Hope she gets canned.
.
Sparkle Plenty
Not likely, I would think. Free speech and all that, although the (alleged) spitting certainly was assault. Plus the university president is a Repub who was lieutenant governor in Jeb! Bush's first term.
What if I give out celery and bread-and-butter pickles instead - is that acceptable? What about those little travel sized cans of Herdez salsa fresca?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 10.31.07 - 10:20 am | #
Just no raisins, please.
Still looking for a rule clarification - if I have a package of Almond Joys, and Butterfingers and little chocolate bars, do I have to give them away just because some little kid asks for them? What if I give out celery and bread-and-butter pickles instead - is that acceptable? What about those little travel sized cans of Herdez salsa fresca?
GWPDA
Almond Joy's got deep dark chocolate and gooey coconut - since I don't like coconut, these go to the rugrats.
I'd keep the Butterfingers.
And the Fresca.
"national security" is a nonesense word. it means nothing. it is a power word though.
How much did he get from the telcos?
Yeah, no corruption here...
Sir Foxbat | 10.31.07 - 10:14 am | #
$42K
...Rockefeller for WOTD? Naw, we Oregonians are going to vote for Harry Reid, who waited until Ron Wyden was back in Orygun with his wife and newborn twins to override Wyden's hold on Lyle Laverty's nomination to Asst. Sec. of Interior...
spinoza: absolutely. And the UD policies will be used as strawmen to poison the polity against the whole, necessary enterprise.
"national security" is a nonesense word. it means nothing. it is a power word though.
euphronius | 10.31.07 - 10:23 am | #
As is "freedom"
Some enterprising state AG should bring an action against the telcos. Like Microsoft or the tobacco suits.
Indeed:
certify a class of all people the telecoms spied on!!
then there is ONE lawsuit! woot.
How about the *American* people.
If the telcos don't get immunity they spill the beans on exactly how extensive and how illegal these operations are.
He's being well paid by the tecos.
He's already got more money than God. Does he really need more? Must be something in the Rockefeller genes.
"national security" is a nonesense word. it means nothing. it is a power word though.
euphronius | 10.31.07 - 10:23 am | #
As is "freedom"
Gilly Gonzylon
Not true.
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
Isn't this Rockefeller one of thems that control the Trilateral Commission? Does he fly around in silent black helicopters, paint secret instructions on the highway signs and make all our young women folk move outa our compound? Then I'm with Atrios on this one.
"Google's shares hit the $700 mark in early morning
trading Wednesday morning, marking a first for
the Internet giant and its soaring stock price."
woo hoo!
Still looking for a rule clarification - if I have a package of Almond Joys, and Butterfingers and little chocolate bars, do I have to give them away just because some little kid asks for them?
Ayn Rand would suggest you take the begging lowlife scum out with a 20 gauge.
Ok, gotta do something useful.
Later, flittermice.
Halloween magic indeed, joining Atrios in a big byebye Karen at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Well, anyone want to join my revolution?
--Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
jac | 10.31.07 - 10:25 am | #
Janis!
"Me and My Baba Ganoush"
Some enterprising state AG should bring an action against the telcos. Like Microsoft or the tobacco suits.
Jay C.
The lawsuits are already filed, and in process. Electronic Freedom Foundation filed in January 2006.
How much did he get from the telcos?
Yeah, no corruption here...
Sir Foxbat
Was talking to a friend who works for a multinational corporation, and he mentioned the corp. has a policy of not making campaign contributions, because it is a form of bribery. So, world-wide, no such donations are given by said corp.
Which made me realize: people in "those countries" bribe their public officials. In this country, we give "campaign contributions."
And the distinction is entirely semantic. Connotation is all.
Still looking for a rule clarification - if I have a package of Almond Joys, and Butterfingers and little chocolate bars, do I have to give them away just because some little kid asks for them?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
I've already picked out all the Butterfingers from the mixed bag. Little buggers aren't laying a finger on my Butterfinger! (But if you're passing out free bread-and-butter pickles, I'll take some.)
Whether someone "agrees" with my sexual orientation or not is Irrelevant -- It matters not if I "agree" whether heterosexuals are what they profess to be. It's ridiculous.
The lawsuits are already filed, and in process. Electronic Freedom Foundation filed in January 2006.
jac
Ah, well, good news. I was thinking of a state AG taking the ball and running with it on behalf of his/her citizens. It's a star-making thing, if anyone wants to do it...
What if I give out celery and bread-and-butter pickles instead - is that acceptable? What about those little travel sized cans of Herdez salsa fresca?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Unless you want your house to be egged back to the stone age I would strongly advise you not to give out celery and bread-and-butter pickles.
Still looking for a rule clarification - if I have a package of Almond Joys, and Butterfingers and little chocolate bars, do I have to give them away just because some little kid asks for them?
Turn off the lights. Lock the door. Disconnect the doorbell.
Feed your face. Who's to know?
What a wankerfeller.
Unless you want your house to be egged back to the stone age I would strongly advise you not to give out celery and bread-and-butter pickles.
Unrepentant Fenian
Simels remembers the Stone Age.
From Josh's Daily email:
The State Department explores new frontiers of lawlessness.
Two days ago, the AP broke the story that the State Department had offered immunity to Blackwater guards for their statements following the September 16th Nisour Square shootings that left 17 Iraqi civilians dead.
The State Department didn't have an immediate reply to the story and seemed to be caught off guard. A "senior State Department official" told ABC that "If anyone gave such immunity it was done so without consulting senior leadership at State." Immunity? Who authorized such a thing?
But apparently such a move wasn't so unprecedented.
The turrists write from right to left, so it follows that they would speak from right to left. Who could ever hope to figure that out?
Rockefeller...
Bush...
No more legacies, please.
I grant immunity to any kids who egg Rockefeller's house.
I guess I am invisible and because of this, I am leaving (just kidding. Time for cardiac exercise) Later. But I still want the Blackwater Thugs who killed the people in Iraq punished. If they can't do it by the law, this has not stopped them when it came to ordinary people: let them subject these people to rendition and foreign prisons.
And can we have some sort of commission to certify the government's statistics as either true or relevant? Right now I would not believe them if they told me the sky was blue and the sun was yellow.
No more legacies, please.
Sir Foxbat, BOO! | 10.31.07 - 10:29 am | #
Bush
Clinton
Clinton
Bush
Bush
Clinton?
I grant immunity to any kids who egg Rockefeller's house.
Jay C., boo!
Yes!
We usually give out chocolate candies filled with Jack Daniels on Halloween night.
Okay -- assuming nothing can stop Hillary getting the nomination.
Which means President Bush Lite, but at least her supreme court nominees won't be from the Federalist Society.
Obviously, we have to elect lots of better Democrats to Congress, who'll force her to govern leftward.
Primary challenges, bitches. Just because she's the establishment choice doesn't mean we have to put up with it....
All right kiddies, off to the periodontist for some more infrastructure repair, and then onward to celebrate the day. Need time to prepare the traditional Hallowe'en canapes and apertivos - those hazelnut pesto puffs and fried olives don't make themselves.
A "senior State Department official" told ABC that "If anyone gave such immunity it was done so without consulting senior leadership at State."
This from the most top-down administration ever. Not too plausible.
Plantsman.
Large coffee - cream and sweet and low.
A "senior State Department official" told ABC that "If anyone gave such immunity it was done so without consulting senior leadership at State."
This from the most top-down administration ever. Not too plausible.
Penguin | 10.31.07 - 10:30 am | #
Cheney is not senior leadership at state.
"If anyone gave such immunity it was done so without consulting senior leadership at State."
Bullshit. It was done by senior leadership at State, right up to and beyond the Secretary's office.
Oooops! Correction:
We usually give out chocolate candies and I'm filled with Jack Daniels on Halloween night.
SS regrets....
Done, DWD.
Plantsman,
Waivers granting a security worker limited immunity — by barring those statements in a criminal case against the worker — are a "routine part" of the investigations by the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the official said.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com
DWD - Revolution of One | Homepage | 10.31.07 - 10:20 am
"Negative events never help," Hughes said when asked how events like last month's shooting of Iraqi civilians by private U.S. security guards in Iraq affects the way the world sees the United States.
OK. Who is running things? Who heads the department responsible for overseeing independent contractors in Iraq? And who appointed her to her position?
Fucking A. Let's all put 2 and 2 together, shall we, Karen?
Go spend more time with your family.
Christ.
Whether someone "agrees" with my sexual orientation or not is Irrelevant -- It matters not if I "agree" whether heterosexuals are what they profess to be. It's ridiculous.
To those nitwits I think it like a belief in phlogistan or Millikan's ether. The mere existence of homosexuals creates a medium, a chemical effusion that contaminates the entire universe so that the heterosexual speed of light is somehow slowed down. How dare the OTHER (name your prejudice) contaminate the world?
HRC is not really a "legacy" as she is from her own family. she just married bill.
If chelsea was persident, that would follwo the legacy complaint.
No more legacies, please.
Vote for us in 2016!!
Then again, it's not like you have a choice in the matter...
Later, bats
Keep 'em flyin'
(good coffee, plantsman )
Bush
Clinton
Clinton
Bush
Bush
Clinton?
At least there will be no more Bushes on that list.
hazelnut pesto puffs and fried olives
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Good gravy! I'm coming trick-or-treating at your house this evening.
"If anyone gave such immunity it was done so without consulting senior leadership at State."
It was an uppity cleaning lady.
Did they even discuss the FISA issue during last night's debate? I was only listening with half an ear, but I don't remember it.
.
A "senior State Department official" told ABC that "If anyone gave such immunity it was done so without consulting senior leadership at State."
This from the most top-down administration ever. Not too plausible.
BINGO. It was done on purpose to taint the investigation.
The State Department didn't have an immediate reply to the story and seemed to be caught off guard. A "senior State Department official" told ABC that "If anyone gave such immunity it was done so without consulting senior leadership at State." Immunity? Who authorized such a thing?
the State Department puts on the
Ignorance Cloak.
"If voting really made a difference, it would be illegal" - Sarah Deere's Dad
Christ.
pie
Hey baby - how YOU doin'?
The Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington-based think tank, said on Tuesday that it's forming an independent, nonpartisan Commission on Cyber Security for the 44th Presidency, composed of more than 30 people who are considered experts in the field.
Its goal by the end of 2008 is to "come up with a set of recommendations for the next administration, whether Democratic or Republican," James Lewis, a senior fellow at CSIS, said at a morning press conference here on Capitol Hill.
And if we require them to face a mountain of lawsuits, we risk losing their support in the future.
If it's ILLEGAL, they shouldn't give their support!
If it's legal, they have to or can be made to support whatever it is they're asked to do.
FISA, torture, renditions, not mentioned.
At least there will be no more Bushes on that list.
The Old Man From Scene 24
The Jebster?
I plan on running with Jenna on a Unity ticket in 2016.
By then, the survivors of President Giuliani's Salt Mines For Freedom program will be looking for an end to partisan squabbling...
Chocolate Jesus rises on Halloween!
How timely.
In the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11, the Bush administration had a choice: Aggressively pursue potential terrorists using existing laws or devise new, secret intelligence programs that broke the law.
It's really that simple.
No more legacies, please.
Wilson Phillips was another bad one.
If it's legal, they have to or can be made to support whatever it is they're asked to do.
pie
That's just crazy talk!
This is America! We can't force corporations to do anything they don't want to do.
Which means President Bush Lite, but at least her supreme court nominees won't be from the Federalist Society.
Unless some DLC consultant convinces her that a Federalist judge would be just the thing needed to make peace with a few obnoxious Republicans in the Senate.
I'm pondering Swiffer's implication that there are scented dusters, myself.
The lawsuits are already filed, and in process. Electronic Freedom Foundation filed in January 2006.
I think the first one was thrown out. If the case involves anything they say is "seceret" it ends up in the judicial trash bin. Which makes me wonder why they are so hot and bothered about giving them immunity. Someone must have an angle on them.
I plan on running with Jenna on a Unity ticket in 2016.
Hager '16!
Will she be old enough?
Shut up, you lazy poor bastards! If you were rich and elite like me, you coulda bought a state to represent.
NEW YORK - Jerry Seinfeld says his wife isn't guilty of "vegetable plagiarism." Jessica Seinfield's "Deceptively Delicious: Simple Secrets to Get Your Kids Eating Good Food," published this month by HarperCollins, explains how to hide nutritious vegetables in traditional recipes so children will eat them.
"Who ARE these Plagiarists?"
"That makes me a legacy. They have to take me. It's their law."
-Jenna Bush, 2024 (aka Flounder)
Did they even discuss the FISA issue during last night's debate? I was only listening with half an ear, but I don't remember it.
No, but there were long discussions concerning UFO's, Bill Richardson's hostage negotiation skills and Illegal Aliens getting drivers licenses. You know, REAL IMPORTANT STUFF.
The Jebster?
Lime Rickey
Toast.
Made Poppy weep, remember?
The Jebster?
No chance. Bush has made it difficult for ANY Republican to get elected let alone a member of his own family.
Wilson Phillips was another bad one.
Noam Sane
I'd hit it.
Well, two out of three, anyway.
"Negative events never help," Hughes said when asked how events like last month's shooting of Iraqi civilians by private U.S. security guards in Iraq affects the way the world sees the United States.
OK. Who is running things?
Mistakes happen.
In the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11, the Bush administration had a choice: Aggressively pursue potential terrorists using existing laws or devise new, secret intelligence programs that broke the law.
the new secret ILLEGAL intellgence programs were planned and started BEFORE 911!!!
4.6 quake actually an Ntodd burp!
Germany seeks expansion
of computer spying
"A proposal to secretly scan suspects' hard drives
causes unease in a nation with a history of
official surveillance."
Aggressively pursue potential terrorists using existing laws or devise new, secret intelligence programs that broke the law.
That didn't catch any terrorists.
NEW YORK - Jerry Seinfeld says his wife isn't guilty of "vegetable plagiarism." Jessica Seinfield's "Deceptively Delicious: Simple Secrets to Get Your Kids Eating Good Food," published this month by HarperCollins, explains how to hide nutritious vegetables in traditional recipes so children will eat them.
Cook the broccoli in Coca-Cola and serve it smothered in corn syrup.
You're kid'll eat it.
Chocolate Jesus rises on Halloween!
How timely.
pie
And Rudy rises on 9/11.
HRC is not really a "legacy" as she is from her own family. she just married bill.
......
Then would Monarchy be appropriate?
"But if ya HOLD ON, for one more day.........Ho-o-o-old ON!"
I think the first one was thrown out. If the case involves anything they say is "seceret" it ends up in the judicial trash bin. Which makes me wonder why they are so hot and bothered about giving them immunity. Someone must have an angle on them.
John Gillnitz | Homepage | 10.31.07 - 10:36 am | #
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the governemtns state secret privilige claim was denied in the 9th circuit.
Aggressively pursue potential terrorists using existing laws or devise new, secret intelligence programs that broke the law.
That didn't catch any terrorists.
We're all "potential" terrorists.
I think the first one was thrown out. If the case involves anything they say is "seceret" it ends up in the judicial trash bin.
November 2008: The government has ruled the results of all federal elections classiified on the basis of national security. No new president will be announced.
In other news, Dana Perino has a new pet dog.
HRC is not really a "legacy" as she is from her own family. she just married bill.
......
Then would Monarchy be appropriate?
Miss Granger | 10.31.07 - 10:38 am | #
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no. not monarchy either. it is nothing. just a person who happened to be married to a previous president.
Shut up, you lazy poor bastards! If you were rich and elite like me, you coulda bought a state to represent.
Jay Rockefella
d00d, it's West Virginia. It was on sale at Wal-Mart.
In other news, Dana Perino has a new pet dog.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger
Is it a poodle?
We're all "potential" terrorists.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Until proven innocent. Which is why we need the help of the telecoms.
Who are NOT terrorists. Because they are helping the government.
See how easy it is?
This is America! We can't force corporations to do anything they don't want to do.
How would you like a tax increase or an IRS audit?
How Are Republicans Like Rats?
Gotta run. Lists of honored dead and the Salem dead at the homepage.
The rich are different from you and me.
.
Chocolate Jesus rises on Halloween!
How timely.
pie
Marvin Gaye does it, too.
How would you like a tax increase or an IRS audit?
Or another portion of the frequency spectrum?
the new secret ILLEGAL intellgence programs were planned and started BEFORE 911!!!
And didn't prevent the attacks...
I'll take a Pony from Hope!
Bush hits all-time low job approval rating in Arkansas
Bush Job Approval in Arkansas
Approve: 30%
Disapprove: 65%
The completely tapable Dr. Janine Parry, a University of Arkansas political scientist and director of the Arkansas Poll, sez:
"While this year's Arkansas Poll shows approval ratings for state politicians remaining stable, President Bush's approval rating has declined to 30 percent, in line with national ratings but noteworthy for a state that cast its electoral votes for Bush in 2004."
Happily, I am wrong about the case being dismissed. From EFF: "In July 20, 2006, a federal judge denied the government's and AT&T's
motions to dismiss the case, chiefly on the ground of the States
Secrets Privilege, allowing the lawsuit to go forward."
If the telcos broke the law, they should be held accountable...
as should the government who asked them to do it.
Heh.
Is it a poodle?
Don't know, but she named it "Tony Snow" and goes around saying "Aren't you dead yet?"
how could this thread gone for so long without ONE Fatboy Slim reference?
Want to win an Indianapolis Colts Super Bowl ring? Here's your chance.
"I look like Willie Wonka Elton, a combination of Willie Wonka and Elton John," Irsay joked before throwing open a gold treasure chest containing a small box with five shiny rings.
Although some fans clearly hoped Irsay would toss the rings into the crowd, he explained the rings would be given away in a raffle he hopes will raise up to $1 million for Indiana charities.
Raffle tickets cost $5.
We're all "potential" terrorists.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 10.31.07 - 10:39 am | #
..........
Indeed, especially with this new Bill:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/...?bill=h110-
1955
">H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
In other news, Dana Perino has a new pet dog.
Is it a poodle?
Sinfonian, Halloweenie
Hellhound.
We're all "potential" terrorists.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Some woman arrested at a peace march tried to enter Canada to fulfill a speaking engagement and was turned away.
.
Happily, I am wrong about the case being dismissed. From EFF: "In July 20, 2006, a federal judge denied the government's and AT&T's
motions to dismiss the case, chiefly on the ground of the States
Secrets Privilege, allowing the lawsuit to go forward."
John Gillnitz | Homepage | 10.31.07 - 10:42 am | #
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however, the issue was subject to interlocutory appeal (IIRC) and is now before teh 9th circuit en banc. so who knows.
Olexicon would agree that the senator is one of the weaker members of the Roc-a-Fella lineup.
H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
Miss Granger
Timothy McVeigh, please pick up the white ... oh, never mind.
We're all "potential" terrorists.
Welcome to America.
Sorry to keep repeating this, but it's got to be kept in mind:
Polls yesterday indicated that a majority of Americans are buying the administration's claims that we need to bomb Iran.
It's deja vu all over again, kids. So let's not kid ourselves anymore -- the American people ain't smart.
Not even close....
Some woman was Medea Benjamin.
More from EFF:
As Judge Walker wrote when dismissing AT&T's immunity claims,
"AT&T cannot seriously contend that a reasonable entity in its
position could have believed that the alleged domestic dragnet was
legal." Judge Walker also flatly rejected the government's secrecy
argument: "The compromise between liberty and security remains a
difficult one. But dismissing this case at the outset would sacrifice
liberty for no apparent enhancement of security."
That wacky 9th Circut. They still think we have a Constitution 'n stuff.
I have a small sugar pumpkin, with a gorgeous stem/handle -- but I just can't carve it, it's perfect as it is.
They still think we have a Constitution 'n stuff.
John Gillnitz
Well, we do. But the Bush crime syndicate redacted it.
Was it may imagination, or did the clip on MSNBC, when Mika was talking about Blackwater, show one of them doing a "Seig Heil' salute????
the "state secret privilege" is not in the constitution. it is federal judge created law based on 0 precedent. it was basically made up by Warren to shield the miltary from tort suits when their experimental planes blew up with the crew inside.
">H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
We don't already have laws that address this?
It's not my wont to knock a fellow
But surely this guy Rockefeller
Is far from poor and impecunious:
The very thought is quite teh looniest.
Heh, can't let this go.
Polls show no improvement in the world's view of the U.S. since Hughes took over.
Like they needed to take a poll for that.
What I'd like to think is that Rockefeller is worried about an anthrax envelope in the mail.
Otherwise, the only explanation for his position on this is that he's a mongrel idiot....
Jebster
The word from a friend in Florida who is in the know says that Jeb is the #1 guy for Mitt's VP.
If Halloween doesn't scare you, that should.
Was it may imagination, or did the clip on MSNBC, when Mika was talking about Blackwater, show one of them doing a "Seig Heil' salute????
debil made me sayit
Probably not your imagination. (pic only)
We don't already have laws that address this?
This is specific to Americans, people born here.
'cause nothing tastes as good as a homegrown terrorist.
If you don't act to protect your trademark, you eventually lose the right to enforce a cease and desist order with respect to other's use of it. If you do not prevent trespass, eventually habitual use of a path creates a legal easement. If you allow millions of individuals to work for businesses, pay into federal retirement systems and grow up knowing no other land but this one you lose the right to suddenly get all paranoid about "illegal aliens". Amnesty is the only real solution if for no other reason than the government lacks the resources or political will to actually enforce any other plan. These people are already part of the society so there is no point to wringing your hands over what to do about it, accept it, close the book and move on. Furthermore, I would advise against instituting any new restrictions that you do not intend to enforce because that's just blowing smoke and undermining the credibility of all of your other laws.
Owls!
After 20 years, U.S. drops charges against men
accused of ties to terrorists.
Finally ending a controversial 20-year campaign
to expel immigrants because of their ties to
alleged Palestinian terrorists, the federal
government has agreed to drop attempts to deport
the final two defendants in the L.A. 8 case.
Hey, this sounds like the Republican Party!
`(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.
The White House plans to try implementing as much new policy as it can by administrative order while stepping up its confrontational rhetoric with Congress after concluding that President Bush cannot do much business with the Democratic leadership, administration officials said.
According to those officials, Bush and his advisers blame Democrats for the holdup of Judge Michael B. Mukasey's nomination to be attorney general, the failure to pass any of the 12 annual spending bills, and what they see as their refusal to involve the White House in any meaningful negotiations over the stalemated children's health-care legislation.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...7103000558.html
The word from a friend in Florida who is in the know says that Jeb is the #1 guy for Mitt's VP.
And that puts me a heartbeat away from the imperial presidency. And Cheney will deal with that......
This is specific to Americans, people born here.
Our laws aready apply to all Americans. This is bullshit.
`(4) IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE- The term `ideologically based violence' means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs.
Again, sounds like what the Repubs have been doing for a while.
(4) IDEOLOGICALLY BASED VIOLENCE- The term `ideologically based violence' means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs.
The Guilty by State include:
Delaware • George Read • Caesar Rodney • Thomas McKean
Pennsylvania • George Clymer • Benjamin Franklin
• Robert Morris • John Morton • Benjamin Rush • George Ross
• James Smith • James Wilson • George Taylor
Massachusetts • John Adams • Samuel Adams • John Hancock • Robert Treat Paine • Elbridge Gerry
New Hampshire • Josiah Bartlett • William Whipple • Matthew Thornton
Rhode Island • Stephen Hopkins • William Ellery
New York • Lewis Morris • Philip Livingston • Francis Lewis • William Floyd
Georgia • Button Gwinnett • Lyman Hall • George Walton
Virginia • Richard Henry Lee • Francis Lightfoot Lee • Carter Braxton • Benjamin Harrison • Thomas Jefferson • George Wythe • Thomas Nelson, Jr.
North Carolina • William Hooper • John Penn • Joseph Hewes
South Carolina • Edward Rutledge • Arthur Middleton
• Thomas Lynch, Jr. • Thomas Heyward, Jr.
New Jersey • Abraham Clark • John Hart • Francis Hopkinson • Richard Stockton • John Witherspoon
Connecticut • Samuel Huntington • Roger Sherman • William Williams • Oliver Wolcott
Maryland • Charles Carroll • Samuel Chase • Thomas Stone • William Paca
"gimme more welfare"-cadillac driving queen Jay Rockefeller to AT&T
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