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Gravatar-new elections in Italy-


GravatarRule Italia.


GravatarCounteract Rove now at Fox News.
http://www.reuters.com/article/ p...me=politicsNews


GravatarSent you a fiddy this AM, biatch.


GravatarNot to be a troublemaker, but does Atrios ever tell how how much moolah he generates with these efforts?


GravatarSent you a fiddy this AM, biatch.

I sent one yestiddy, Dana.

heh.


GravatarHelp make the pie higher!

well, there are just so many ways to approach that ...


GravatarIs this part of the service economy?


GravatarDo we have gaggle-sign?


GravatarOkay, now that half braunschweiger sammitch is a day older, but it's still yours if you want it. 


Gravatari could bake you a pie. i have lots of apples, the good kind for baking.


GravatarThat's one boring commercial, dude.

Get some cute dogs, or tits, or something.

And a jingle. GOT to have a jingle.


GravatarRepost:

The tanking of the service sector also bodes poorly for commercial real estate - and a lot of suburbs have whored out their main streets for endless strings of strip malls, many of which are adding "Lease Available" signs by the hour.


GravatarWe couls use something like this in our country. But noooooo....

The AGV (Automotrice Grande Vitesse) train will travel at up to 360km/h (224mph), powered by engines placed under each carriage, the company says.
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The new AGV trains are set to travel 1,000km (600 miles) in three hours, which is "a new stage in the competition with the airlines", said Alstom's Executive Chairman, Patrick Kron, at the ceremony.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/ 7227807.stm


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?


GravatarIt's weird imagining the history of the last few years without blogs.

Imagine me with massive cirrhosis of the liver. Multiply that by all of your regular readers.

Yeah, it would be just about like that.


GravatarDo we have gaggle-sign?
Snow, Somebody's Gerry


Yepper.

This time around it was OMB Director Jim Nussle's turn to eat the shit sammich.

Q In the big picture, isn't the President leaving the next President a budget that's in far worse shape than the one he inherited?

DIRECTOR NUSSLE: Well, if all you read was the budget that he inherited and this budget here today, you probably missed about eight years of pretty important stuff that was going on in the country.


GravatarHelp make the pie higher!
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drug reference?


GravatarI wonder what Director Nussle's Chimp-nickname is?


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?
B1 Bummer | 02.05.08 - 10:22 am | #
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airplanes, corn, corn syrup, media.


Gravatar...i actually did that one year. i was so poor, i couldn't pay attention, let alone my BK lawyer. but i loved this one blog so much, and the people who wrote it were literally almost going hungry some nights. so i shipped them five big cans of homemade spaghetti sauce, to cover the cheap noodles i'm sure they were buying to stretch their food dollar. they still write a mean blog i read often.


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?
B1 Bummer


Does Death count?


GravatarA whole lot of the sprawl is quickly turning into pestilential wasteland. It's like a manmade desert, without the interesting wildlife. I hope we're proud of ourselves.


Gravatarhere is a guy on bloggers power chris prillo from locker gnome http://livelymoney.blogspot.com/...ney- online.html


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?

STDs.


Gravatar.The AGV (Automotrice Grande Vitesse) train will travel at up to 360km/h (224mph), powered by engines placed under each carriage, the company says.

And they use 30% less energy than the old TGVs that go "only" 186 mph.


GravatarWell, if all you read was the budget that he inherited and this budget here today,

Isn't that kind of telling. It tells us that the budgets in between did fuck all to help the budget.


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?
B1 Bummer

Scrap metal. The ruins of our once-mighty industrial infrastructure and its products.


GravatarI wonder what Director Nussle's Chimp-nickname is?

Nussman?

Jimbo?


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?

trees, minerals


Gravatar"Does the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?
B1 Bummer "

As I said on the thread below, only a few simple items such as fan blades to China.

This info comes from close friends employed by the largest shipping co. around here. "Maersk"


GravatarWhat I love about these stock market gurus is THEY ARE ALWAYS PREDICTING A BULL MARKET.

Take this jagoff for instance.

They're as bad as Lieberman on Iraq.

Nothing but fucking sales swindlers.


Gravatar"Donate?"


You just told us the economy has gone to shit. If that's not cognitive dissonance...


GravatarWe export AIDS drugs to Africa but we charge so much for them that no one who needs them can afford them.


Gravatar"We need to entrench a simple message in people's minds: industry is not over, industry is essential for the economy of a rich nation as much as an emerging nation," Mr Sarkozy said at the launch.

What a novel idea.


GravatarWell, if all you read was the budget that he inherited and this budget here today, you probably missed about eight years of pretty important stuff that was going on in the country.


wtf?


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?
B1 Bummer

Movies, software, cotton, timber and wheat. Those out of work realtors should get jobs getting coffee for George Clooney. It might pay better.


GravatarI wonder what Director Nussle's Chimp-nickname is?

Lucky


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?

STDs.
Holden Caulfield


Neil Bush alone holds up that whole sector of our economy.


GravatarI wonder what Director Nussle's Chimp-nickname is?

Nippler


GravatarPlease fucking kill me. I like the guy I work for, but he is, on occasion, the biggest baby on the planet.

After you fucking kill me, read the post I am whoring. It's about trash-outs and it has video.

Oh, and get this ... I went to my BO event last night and there were so many volunteers there that we couldn't all fit and we had to work in one-hour shifts.

End of non-sequiturs (for the moment).


GravatarWe couls use something like this in our country. But noooooo....


So of our Freedom Trains go almost as fast as an automobile!


GravatarI wonder what Director Nussle's Chimp-nickname is?


Turd Tapper.


GravatarGive generously! Atrios has child support payments to make. To me. And junior is going to be a hunnngry boy.


GravatarYes. Death comes under "weapons." Of course, we've outsourced most the actual deadness manufacturing capacity to places with cheaper raw live material resources.


GravatarOh, and get this ... I went to my BO event last night and there were so many volunteers there that we couldn't all fit and we had to work in one-hour shifts.

End of non-sequiturs (for the moment).
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 02.05.08 - 10:25 am | #

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thats because teh obama campaign purposely arranged for teh room to be too small.


GravatarOh, and missing white women. I think we still export those.


GravatarOh, and get this ... I went to my BO event last night and there were so many volunteers there that we couldn't all fit and we had to work in one-hour shifts.

I never imagined Bill O'Reilly was so popular!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[ducks & runs]


Gravatardamn you, atrios.

you made me take the red pill.


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?

B1 Bummer

Websites and blogs!


GravatarNot to be a troublemaker, but does Atrios ever tell how how much moolah he generates with these efforts?
leibniz, monadΩ | 02.05.08 - 10:19 am | #


I hope it's a lot. Poor dood can't hardly leave the house. Can't be easy to do what he do, but I am glad that he do.


GravatarA whole lot of the sprawl is quickly turning into pestilential wasteland.

the homes will make nice places for wildlife to live and hide in and around if they are allowed to grow farrow, but don't fear, i think they will become switchblade-grass farms or windfarms


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?

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we used to export exotic mortgage based investment products. ah, those were the days.


GravatarWhat has Atrios ever done for me except clue me in to a lot of near-criminal bullshit perpetrated by the government, given me access to a forum where I have, on occasion, laughed until I've cried, and broadened my circle of friends?

Wanker.


Gravatarsky-y-y rockets in flight!


GravatarDow -198.67


Gravatarleibniz, monadΩ,

Very sad story. My situation is a little different. I have to decide for the dog and it is hard. He is in pain and on meds for the pain.

The problem then becomes am I keeping him going for him or for me? (Remember, poor AL at this point is deaf, nearly blind, suffering terribly from arthritis in his back, and incontinent mostly - we try to let him out every fifteen minutes or so all night long when we are watching TV or a movie but that becomes annoying after a while as well. You should see Nikki (the giant poodle) look at us when we ask her if she wants to go out into the ice and snow - she does the best, "Are you insane" look.)

And the answer is yet to be determined.


GravatarIt's like a manmade desert, without the interesting wildlife

but that can change! easy! ...sorry, the plant catalogues have started coming and i'm dreaming of landscaping and en-flowering public spaces like i usually do this time of year, when it's still too frozen to actually garden.


GravatarWhat has Atrios ever done for me?

The Aqueduct


Gravatardamn you, atrios.

you made me take the red pill.
watertiger


Yeah, really. I watched The Matrix again a little while ago and completely identified with Joe Pantoliano.


GravatarWell, if all you read was the budget that he inherited and this budget here today,

Isn't that kind of telling. It tells us that the budgets in between did fuck all to help the budget.
Snow, Somebody's Gerry


Not to mention the off-budget requests for hundreds of billions to fund two wars of choice. I'll bet they're still off-budget this year.

But of course, it was a great idea to cut taxes in a time of war, Commander Guy.


GravatarIt's like a manmade desert

Like a cheesecake?


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?


Scrap metal!


GravatarI went to my BO event last night and there were so many volunteers there that we couldn't all fit and we had to work in one-hour shifts.

now if all those energized could actually get themselves to the polls and vote, life would be better.....VOTE OR DIE, bitches!


GravatarThe Aqueduct
attaturk


And the wine.


Gravatarseriously, we really export scrap metal? that is so sad.


GravatarNo one could have imagined that outsourcing so many service jobs could hurt our service economy.


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?

We've given the planet Britney Spears, David Copperfield, and Michael Bolton among other luminaries.


GravatarI went to my BO event last night and there were so many volunteers there that we couldn't all fit and we had to work in one-hour shifts.

That must have been awful, what with all the Body Odor and all.


GravatarNo one could have imagined that outsourcing so many jobs could hurt our service economy.
George Johnston

Fixed that for you.


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Yeah, really. I watched The Matrix again a little while ago and completely identified with Joe Pantoliano.


"How can he be the One . . . if he's DEAD!?!"

I love that line.


Gravatarseriously, we really export scrap metal? that is so sad.

Didn't China get 9/11 debris?


GravatarSo are Hillary and Obama going to be in the Senate today to vote against retro-immunity for the telecoms?


Gravatarseriously, we really export scrap metal? that is so sad.
euphronius, Night School! | Homepage | 02.05.08 - 10:29 am | #


It is a huge business.
Something has to go in all the empty containers going back to china.


Gravatarnow if all those energized could actually get themselves to the polls and vote, life would be better.....VOTE OR DIE, bitches!
mogwai, 5th-tier


2nded.


Gravatarseriously, we really export scrap metal? that is so sad.

Soon we'll be exporting the elderly.


GravatarThanks rootless-e, did not know that. I thought it was a snarky reference to 9/11.


Gravatarseriously, we really export scrap metal? that is so sad.

Soon we'll be exporting the elderly.
watertiger | Homepage | 02.05.08 - 10:31 am | #

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GravatarHesh is the One, vis a vis, the One who is!

(Sorry, Sealab 2021 still cracks me up)


GravatarAtrios, I've been reading your comments since even before you had a blog, you posted at another blog and I can't remember the name of that blog for the life of me. You used to post there under 'Atrios', if I remember right. But I for one consider you one of the pillars and (without exaggeration) one of the saviors of the liberal mindset in this country. And you certainly have kept my liberal values active. At the same time I started reading blogs, in early 2002, I got rid of my cable service and canceled the Boston Globe, there was just so much obfuscation coming out of both areas, but the biggest scare I had was that these entities were keeping me from knowing things that I had a right to know about my country. You kept me afloat in that regard.


GravatarAtrios, what started as a way for you to get a few things off your chest has turned into an amazing community of bright, funny, talented, profane and passionate people, some of whom I don't even mind knowing in realspace!

It's an accomplishment that could not be duplicated, if only because it happened more or less organically, and could not be consciously forced into existence....


GravatarAtrios has child support payments to make. To me

Nim, the disclaimer is clear: "keep legs closed while applying this blog, and for four hours after. do not mix with alcohol."

you can't blame him if you break the rulez.


Gravatar"During the runup to the Iraq war, blogs and other internet news sources were practically the only places where most people could find people saying, basically, that this was bullshit, that Saddam was not a threat to the US, that Colin Powell's vial was filled with talcum powder, etc."

I bet a lot of us found blogs looking for others who thought Iraq would be a "dumb war." I googled "No War", found a Max Sawicky-formed blog, nowarblog.org(?), with technical assistance from a guy named kos, which later sent me here, and the rest, as they say, is history.


GravatarIt is a huge business.
Something has to go in all the empty containers going back to china.
rootless-e

It's all part of the circle of life. We send them toxic junk. China makes it into toys. We then buy it for our children to play with.


GravatarSoon we'll be exporting the elderly.
watertiger


Well, they can't go to Boca anymore. It's gonna be like 1000 degrees there in a few years.


GravatarI am off for a while but I understand that ABC News had a special on Natalie Holloway last night. Why don't they have a special on the lies that led to war or the 12,000,000,000 dollars in cash that is missing? Or the killing of Iraqi civilians by Blackwater Thugs? Or the raping of the young lady and her incarceration by Blackwater Thugs? Or the State Department's complicity in these affairs? Or the incompetence of Gaptooth Bitch? Or or or or or

Natalie Holloway? Who gives a rat's ass? (Her parents should be in prison, btw)


GravatarDidn't China get 9/11 debris?
Luv My Feline!


No, the Halliburton's neighbors own a steel mill at India.


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?

Empty shipping containers.


GravatarNot to mention the off-budget requests for hundreds of billions to fund two wars of choice. I'll bet they're still off-budget this year.


Which makes the preening little shit's bragging about his budget, the bubble-headed bleach-blond's comment about the deficit being for the good of the country, and his budget director's blather about pretty important stuff what we missed over the last 8 years all the more maddening.


GravatarDidn't China get 9/11 debris?

No, but they have dibs on the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Gravatarseriously, we really export scrap metal? that is so sad.

Soon we'll be exporting the elderly.
watertiger


A think tank just went on a hiring binge.


GravatarOr have the blogs only been a pressure cooker regulator, a place to let off steam without taking action?

The blogs really were the only place to exchange information that is for sure. There was no AAR and NPR was not doing the job progessives believe it should.

The internet has been a focus point that is for sure but is it all it should be?

If it were the FISA bill with retroactive immunity would not be passing under cover of Super Tuesday Primaries. Which there is a good chance of that happening.

Do the Blogs overload us and do the diversity of Blogs still seperate us because so many only visit the 'correct' blogs?


Gravatar
Well, they can't go to Boca anymore. It's gonna be like 1000 degrees there in a few years.


And underwater.

Of course, that would be a plus for all of those aqua aerobics classes...


Gravatarseriously, we really export scrap metal? that is so sad.

Nothing ever changes...


it took
a nipponized bit of
the old sixth
avenue el;in the top of his head:to tell him


GravatarGaptooth Bitch? i like.


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?
B1 Bummer

Scrap metal. The ruins of our once-mighty industrial infrastructure and its products.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | 02.05.08 - 10:24 am

Scrap metal!
rootless-e

Dr. Pepper me!


Gravatar"Oh, and get this ... I went to my BO event last night and there were so many volunteers there that we couldn't all fit and we had to work in one-hour shifts."

cool


GravatarWe should be exporting Republicans.


GravatarWe should be exporting Republicans.
res ipsa loquitur


Alabama = Siberia


GravatarSoon we'll be exporting the elderly.

China's gonna undercut us on those, too...more supply.


Gravatarya know, it would be easy to avoid all this fundraising nonsense. just sell your blog to the Macquarie Media Group.

i'm sure they'd keep you on as editor. as long as you are able to "get along."


Gravatarbtw, make sure to thank the poll workers today.

they're volunteering.


Gravatarpigboy,

I for one would not be more active without this blog.

I'd be in a depressive coma.


GravatarBlogger Power


Atrios is the Posh Spice of the Internets.


GravatarIt's all part of the circle of life. We send them toxic junk. China first adds lead and then makes it into toys. We then buy it for our children to play with.

fyt


Gravatarbtw, make sure to thank the poll workers today.

I can't vote until March.


GravatarWe should be exporting Republicans.
res ipsa loquitur


hey, what did we ever do to you?
-- the world


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GravatarBlogger Power


Atrios is the Posh Spice of the Internets.
Holden Caulfield



WEEEEEEEEEEEE Spice


Gravatary'know, it would be a hell of a lot easier to "disregard all audible or visual signals that I might hear or see" if the FUCKING FIRE ALARM WEREN'T RIGHT OUTSIDE MY OFFICE!

Just scared the living crap out of me.


GravatarThis site has been consistently great. It is particularly interesting now that the economy is falling apart, given Duncan's expertise in economics, and Duncan has been smart to avoid the Obama-Hillary pissing contest.

I wish it were less successful in attracting 600+ comment threads, most of which are utterly trivial. If you have some trenchant insight, why bury it in this garbage?


GravatarWe should be exporting Republicans.

DO NOT WANT!


Gravatarheh, Billy B.

My hubby told me that we actually export human waste.

Seriously. The waste processing plant in Manhattan, for example, turns everything into little balls of waste, and then we ship it to Saudi Arabia for fertilizer, which they need.


GravatarWEEEEEEEEEEEE Spice

I'm Baby Spice, of course.


Gravatarbtw, make sure to thank the poll workers today.

i always stuff a couple of bucks in their waistbands.


GravatarAt the same time I started reading blogs, in early 2002, I got rid of my cable service and canceled the Boston Globe,

/applause/ bravo, sir.


GravatarNo, thank you. Talibama already has more than its fair share of republicans and other assorted slack-jawed yokels.


GravatarI can't vote until March.

When you get there, thank them.


Gravatar
The AGV (Automotrice Grande Vitesse) train will travel at up to 360km/h (224mph), powered by engines placed under each carriage, the company says.
...
The new AGV trains are set to travel 1,000km (600 miles) in three hours, which is "a new stage in the competition with the airlines", said Alstom's Executive Chairman, Patrick Kron, at the ceremony.


"But railroads only succeed when subsidized by the government"
-- libertarian

"All forms of transportation rely on government subsidies."
-- reality


GravatarMy hubby told me that we actually export human waste.

Can't be true, Dick Cheney hardly ever leaves the country.


Gravatar China first adds lead and then makes it into toothpaste.

fyfyt.


Gravatarto be meta for a moment, i also would like to thank Atrios for his years of dedicated service. His wit and insight have halped us all in a very troubled time. futher i think his maturity and integrity have raised the bar of what it means to be a blogger.

this is another way of saying i will not be sending you any money.


GravatarAtrios is the Posh Spice of the Internets.
Holden Caulfield


WEEEEEEEEEEEE Spice
attatur


No, no, no.

Wanky Spice.


GravatarDr. Pepper me!
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | 02.05.08 - 10:33 am | #


You win. Collect your prize from my the securitized comments attached to my Atrios Account.


GravatarI'm Baby Spice, of course.

Bitch, you're Pony Spice.

Deal with it.


GravatarI can't vote until March.

How does it feel to be irrelevant?



GravatarIf you have some trenchant insight, why bury it in this garbage?
bob h


But I like my garbage. Don't you?


GravatarBitch, you're Pony Spice.

And you must be Scary Spice.


GravatarAhem. I do wish from time to time that Atrios had adopted one of the more complex blog formats so that those of us who want to talk about some issue he raises could retire to some quiet corner of the party (as we probably would do in life) for a serious discussion. I remember a time when the substance/frivolity ratio in comments was much different. Not to deny that there are some very amusing folks here, however.


GravatarI'm only donating if you can arrange for Mara Liasson to give me a lapdance.


GravatarSoon we'll be exporting the elderly.
watertiger

Well, they can't go to Boca anymore. It's gonna be like 1000 degrees there in a few years.
madamab, SuperGenius

We're already sending many people overseas for surgeries that insurance won't cover the cost of US treatment. As my mom went downhill, I realized our generation will probably need to go to India, Thailand, or Indonesia to get end-of-life care. Won't be enough employees - or enough money to pay them - in the stripped-out US economy.


GravatarBitch, you're Pony Spice.


Does that make Simels Old Spice?


GravatarIf you have some trenchant insight, why bury it in this garbage?
bob h


'Cause no one reads my blog.


Gravatarwatertiger...

This (along with Valentine's Day, St. Patrick's Day, and New Year's Eve") is one of those "Cede the City" (to the suburbanites) days.

Had to be near Penn Station this AM. UGLY.


GravatarI am intrigued by your views and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.


GravatarNo, thank you. Talibama already has more than its fair share of republicans and other assorted slack-jawed yokels.


And the Redneck Riveria. Don't fuck with the Redneck Riveria. Send 'em to Canuckida or Wisconsin.


GravatarHow does it feel to be irrelevant?

If no one has a clear edge coming out of Super-Duper Tuesday, Texas may be The Decider.


Gravatarif you want substantive comments, you are gonna have to get some regular commenters who actually read what Atrios posts.


Gravatar
And you must be Scary Spice.


got that right, fluffit.


GravatarDoes that make Simels Old Spice?



Gravatarwell, we wouldve all had strokes & died.


GravatarDoes that make Simels Old Spice?
George Johnston


i wish i'd said that.

(you will, oscar, you will)


Gravatargot that right, fluffit.

I may just call you Musk.


Gravatar Texas may be The Decider.

God help us all.


Gravatar
Does that make Simels Old Spice?


Touche.


Gravatari have an eschaton receipt in my email - teh IRS will know i am giving to DFH causes and place me on the fbi mostest wantedest list
/tinfoil hat voting day


GravatarSeriously. The waste processing plant in Manhattan, for example, turns everything into little balls of waste, and then we ship it to Saudi Arabia for fertilizer, which they need.


Makes sense. Some folks can make money at anything.


GravatarJapan has it worse. I think in 2030 their retiree-to-worker ration will be like 500-1.


Gravatar
Had to be near Penn Station this AM. UGLY.


What, you're not going down to watch the parade?


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?
B1 Bummer


Fundy fucktardery


GravatarWork to do. Later bats.


Gravatar
I may just call you Musk.


You're Skank Spice, beeyotch.


Gravatarbob h, some people are just here to chill out and roll with some like minded others. lighten up, francis.

Do the Blogs overload us and do the diversity of Blogs still seperate us because so many only visit the 'correct' blogs?
pigboy


i so don't worry about this. i've seen too many "top communities" rise and fall, disintegrate and change, evolve and fade away...no, things are and will remain too dynamic for any one set of "correct" blogs to do much more than claim they lead the herd this day...there's still plenty of new and good out there, and plenty of well read if lesser bloggers who are covering it. the onus remains on the reader, it's there if you look for it.

i bet bob h can tell you where.


GravatarIf you have some trenchant insight, why bury it in this garbage?
bob h


That's what Daily Kos is for.


GravatarWhat, you're not going down to watch the parade?

In the rain. With half the population of Long Island? Definitely.


GravatarAnd the Redneck Riveria. Don't fuck with the Redneck Riveria. Send 'em to Canuckida or Wisconsin.
Billy B

Bullshit!!

Give 'em Utah. Or Idaho.


GravatarDoes the U.S. export anything other than weapons and promissory notes?

Our servicemen/women


GravatarIf no one has a clear edge coming out of Super-Duper Tuesday, Texas may be The Decider.
Holden Caulfield |


That feels like, weird...


GravatarI thank Atrios as well. I've been here for a few years and love all the companions, even NTodd!

I said yesterday that I feel this place is like a giant progressive think tank. It is one of the best!


GravatarI wonder if, to play devil's advocate, had lefty blogs not existed that their message would not have penetrated major media more easily. Did the blogs siphon off the outrage and critique?


Gravatarbob h, some people are just here to chill out and roll with some like minded others. lighten up, francis.

i'm just here to cause trouble. i'm a blogger without a cause.


Gravatarthe US also exports free market ideology and market shocks. we also export surviellance technology and torture techniques. (to be fair, teh last one is just a reexport of the Israeli original)


GravatarHad to be near Penn Station this AM. UGLY.

What, you're not going down to watch the parade?
watertiger


The train to Manhattan was psychotically crowded today. The only explanation was the parade. As we entered Grand Central, we heard a loud cheer from the front of the train.

People are psyched. Now, if we could just get them as excited about voting...


GravatarChad Spice.


GravatarWith half the population of Long Island?

Oh, half the population of New Jersey's gonna be pissed you forgot to mention them, too!

OK, now I'm out. Later.


GravatarThe waste processing plant in Manhattan, for example, turns everything into little balls of waste, and then we ship it to Saudi Arabia for fertilizer, which they need.

It's too bad there are other places for them to get it.

Otherwise, we could charge them 100$ a barrel for the shit, "just because we can".


GravatarI wonder if, to play devil's advocate, had lefty blogs not existed that their message would not have penetrated major media more easily. Did the blogs siphon off the outrage and critique?
Trevor J | 02.05.08 - 10:41 am | #

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no.

Major media is impenatrable.


GravatarGive 'em Utah. Or Idaho.


Utah. That's a good one.


GravatarI'm one of the minority who likes the linear simplicity of Haloscan.

Allows one to pop in and out of different conversations. Like drifting through an especially chic cocktail party.


Gravatar"if you want substantive comments, you are gonna have to get some regular commenters who actually read what Atrios posts.
euphronius"

I would settle for somebody who read what I wrote. Which you may have done, actually.


GravatarMcCarthy marched ahead with the campaign, his attention now turning entirely to Humphrey.

"Humphrey was a stand-in for Johnson. And in effect I said, the issues of the war and and the issue of the Johnson conduct of it, Johnson in effect laid the burden of the war on the party and on Hubert," McCarthy recalled years later.

McCarthy watched as Humphrey solidified support among traditional Democrats. In the non-primary states Humphrey accumulated delegates, which at that time were largely controlled by state party organizations. He was the favorite heading in the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. Support for McCarthy was fading.
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Humphrey and Johnson

McCarthy was interviewed on Face the Nation on CBS television from the convention, and was asked whether he would be willing to work out a compromise with Humphrey. McCarthy responded that wasn't possible, since Humprehy was being vague on his position on the Vietnam War.

"He knows (my position). I don't know his position on Vietnam. I don't know his position, really, on the bombing right now," said McCarthy. "I don't his position on the withdrawal of troops in the way it's proposed in this platform, whether he'd go that far."


GravatarIf you have some trenchant insight, why bury it in this garbage?
bob h


it will later be balled up and shipped to saudi arabia as fertilizer. for the growing democracy movement.


GravatarI would settle for somebody who read what I wrote.

i must have missed that.


GravatarOff to express outrage in meatspace.

Be nice to each other.


GravatarI sure hope A. has either incorporated or at least is reporting as a small business.


GravatarI wonder if, to play devil's advocate, had lefty blogs not existed that their message would not have penetrated major media more easily.

Penetrated the Military Industrial Media?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[runs out of breath]

[passes out]

[comes to]

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


Gravatarit will later be balled up and shipped to saudi arabia as fertilizer. for the growing democracy movement.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Pee-ance!


GravatarI for one would not be more active without this blog.

I'd be in a depressive coma.
Gummo | Homepage | 02.05.08 - 10:34 am | #

Yeah me too. I was on AOL at the time everything was starting and my posts kept going away while others stayed. It was so frustrating. Then I switched to Comcast, did a goggle and viola! Eschaton! Which blew me away since it was so interactive and alive. And none of my posts disappeared which sadly I wish a few of them would....


Gravatarhad lefty blogs not existed that their message would not have penetrated major media more easily. Did the blogs siphon off the outrage and critique?

see: teh 80's and how 'democratic' voters voted for dumbfuck reagan and then bush for 12 years, and for reagan, he won like 49 fucking states...W-T-F!!!


GravatarThe train to Manhattan was psychotically crowded today. The only explanation was the parade. As we entered Grand Central, we heard a loud cheer from the front of the train.

Interesting PBS documentary on Grand Central last night; apparently it took a major tragedy for the damned greedpigs to transform it from steam-powered to electric.


GravatarDow -204


GravatarOh, yes - Happy Mardi Gras.


GravatarIf you have some trenchant insight, why bury it in this garbage?

I am still waiting to hear from Fox News on my multi-million, multi-year contract.


GravatarAnd none of my posts disappeared

which is why i eschew killfile.


GravatarI would settle for somebody who read what I wrote. Which you may have done, actually.
David in NY | 02.05.08 - 10:43 am | #

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to get noticed you must layer everything in 4 applications of snark, followed by generous toppings of curse words and funny names for bush. another model is the WALLOFTEXT that succinctly summarizes and explicates what everyone was trying to say but couldnt, but with much better grammar, insight, allusions, je ne se qua, and ellipses.


GravatarI gave you a piece of pie's pie yesterday.

Money well spent.


GravatarI for one would not be more active without this blog.

I'd be in a depressive coma.
Gummo


Me too. During the runup to the war, I was so happy to have the Internets. I couldn't stand the traditional media's constant fluffing of the Bush agenda.


GravatarMajor media is impenatrable.

I think it is. I think we just have found the proper explosively formed penetrator that is effective against corporate media armor. Tell them they are being stupid when they are being stupid. Jon Stewart to Tucker Carlson-like. Only Tucker Carlson is not a vulnerable spot to the corporate media. Gotta be the Big Three anchors.


GravatarWhiny ass Rush & his titties

"If I believe the country will suffer with either Hillary, Obama or McCain, I would just as soon the Democrats take the hit . . . rather than a Republican causing the debacle," he said. "And I would prefer not to have conservative Republicans in the Congress paralyzed by having to support, out of party loyalty, a Republican president who is not conservative."

He's gonna get back on the hillbilly heroin.


Gravatar"I'm one of the minority who likes the linear simplicity of Haloscan.

Allows one to pop in and out of different conversations. Like drifting through an especially chic cocktail party.
Gummo"

On a site like Kevin Drum's, which uses haloscan, the ratio of substantive to off-topic comments is the reverse of here, and I like it fine. (Sites that have linear comments that are numbered are simple, but a bit better.) Here, however, even when Atrios is pointing out interesting stuff worth some thinking about, it's lost pretty soon, which I often (not always) think is too bad.


GravatarInteresting PBS documentary on Grand Central last night; apparently it took a major tragedy for the damned greedpigs to transform it from steam-powered to electric.


Was that the doc with FDR's train car and the still super-secret underground control center from WW2?


Gravatar but with much better grammar, insight, allusions, je ne se qua, and ellipses.
euphronius, Night School! | Homepage | 02.05.08 - 10:46 am | #


not to mention bold slantie SHOUTING


GravatarWhiny ass Rush & his titties

Rush and Coulter campaigning for Hillary? Heh.


GravatarDow -204
Holden


ARe you a short-seller, Holden?


GravatarInteresting PBS documentary on Grand Central last night; apparently it took a major tragedy for the damned greedpigs to transform it from steam-powered to electric.
War On War Off


Unfortunately, human beings are not good at long-range planning as a general rule.

We would much rather pretend everything is okay than to take preventive action.

See: Gore, Al; Carter, Jimmeh.


GravatarFrom the dead thread:

"I think our exports are down to simple things like fan blades to China."

We're starting to see a definite increase in the number of people who won't buy any product made in China. I realize this is the Ann Arbor area, but I wonder if this trend is being noticed elsewhere. The owner is desperately looking for manufacturers of garden tools and related items based in this country. In many cases, there just aren't any.

The consumer does have the power. If only more would use it.


Gravatari had a horrible insight: the conservative "reacation" against Huggy Bear is actualyl a carefully orchestrated dance to burnish Huggy Bear's "independent" credentials.

*scared*


Gravatar"... but with much better grammar, insight, allusions, je ne se qua, and ellipses...."

allusions, je ne sais quoi and ....
.


Gravatarallusions, je ne sais quoi and ....

there are only three dots in in ellipse.

/pedant


(see, dave, one CAN learn things here!)


Gravatarfour dots if it ends a sentence. NUB


GravatarNope, Billy B; here's the link.


GravatarARe you a short-seller, Holden?

That's a rather personal question, res.


Gravatari had a horrible insight: the conservative "reacation" against Huggy Bear is actualyl a carefully orchestrated dance to burnish Huggy Bear's "independent" credentials.

*scared*
euphronius, Night School!


They ain't that clever. They genuinely hate McCain. He makes them even craaaaazier.

McCain Derangement Syndrome, baby.


GravatarNot only is major media impenetrable look at so-called libural NPR and PBS. The NPR Ombudsman chided Terry Gross when Bill O'Reilly had a hissy fit on her show.


Gravatarfour dots if it ends a sentence. NUB

but gwpda did not post a sentence. it was only a fragment.


Gravatarsheets.


Gravatarthx WOWO


GravatarDow -204

You maniacs!!!

Damn you! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!


Gravatar"to get noticed you must layer everything ... euphronius"

Actually, people are quite often willing to engage even my plain vanilla comments, with snark or actual responsive points. But it tends to get lost in the flow of cocktail chatter. (And I'm often not above the chatter, just I am sometimes.)


GravatarIcky poo. Wocka huckle buck. Vootie.


GravatarThe owner is desperately looking for manufacturers of garden tools and related items based in this country. In many cases, there just aren't any.

hmmm, there are LOTS of rundown brick ex-manufacturing bldgs 'round here. now if only one could get a loan. ohh thanks greedsters, now getting a loan requires your first born as collateral


Gravatar But it tends to get lost in the flow of cocktail chatter. (And I'm often not above the chatter, just I am sometimes.)
David in NY | 02.05.08 - 10:53 am | #


there's rarely any chatter at my blog. you're welcome to hang out there.


Gravatar... xxx ....
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GravatarAlright, My guy Edwards is out of it. I like Obama except that he falls into the Bi-partisan delusion. Compromise on Soc. Sec.? No Way!!! Hillary may be realistic enough to know she's got to smack the thugs down (hoping we have a secure hold on both House and Senate) but she's DLC and they're Repub Lite(TM). sigh..... Sage commentary, please.


Gravatarhylander (if you check back),

my gut said Obama today (I can't get past the Iraq vote, I think). My wife voted for Obama on impulse, then felt really terrible, a traitor to her sex and her assessment of him as without substance. My late mother put Hillary among the sainted, right next to Eleanor Roosevelt. Damned if I know what's right, and I've already voted.


GravatarUnfortunately, much of what passes itself off for the "liberal or left" blogosphere is really just Democratic Party front blogs that diligently ignore the actual left and liberal leaning social justice blogs in America. Liberal and left in the Democratic Party in 2008 is neither liberal nor left. They just claim to be to co-opt the venue.

I mean really, Hillary? Obama?

Both are ardent drug war supporters and that is the Jim Crow DLC wing of the Democratic Party.


GravatarOk. Ok. All of the tips from Frist and his Fellow Republicans I drove to the Kitty Klub over the last six years I'm handing over. Now be nice to John McOldman until November when he gets burried along with his boyfriend George.


GravatarI know it's both too late in the thread and too late to get anything organized, but you know what would have really shown that bloggers/the base have power and that every vote in every state should count (and not just those states that vote first) in the primary? if left-blogostan would have united behind a candidate who "dropped out of the race" and hence gave delegates and momentum to a candidate who the media ("we have come not to bury Edwards but to praise him" -- note how the media said such good things about him after, and only after, he was safely out of the race) had prematurely declared dead (e.g. Edwards today ... super-duper-Tuesday).

It would also be positive in reducing the influence of money in politics -- no matter what "campaign finance reform" we have, money will find its way into politics (just as drugs'll find their way into this country) so long as there's a demand for it. The way to clean politics of "special interest" money is to make winning elections less expensive. And if people know they can win by getting their stances on issues out to voters who care (which is cheap, thanks to the intertubes), then why would they spend money on expensive ad buys, etc?

Maybe we can still organize and through the vote in some later state to Kucinich?


GravatarI just gave $25. My first post ever at this blog, but it was the Yes songs years ago that got me. Surprised that such a young lad would know Yes lyrics. He must have some great insight....


GravatarLonely indeed.

I remember when I first stumbled across the blogs that were expressing doubt about the Bush Admin reasons for going to war with Iraq. I was so relieved to find others that saw through bullshit as I did.

Since then I feel like part of a community. Together we are working to improve our world. Without the blogosphere I think many of us would have given up hope.


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