I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Boo!
baa!
Article on Federal Highway fund allocation
http://pdfdownload.tsone.info/pd...d%
2F66083_1.pdf
HA!
First we have this little tidbit about Alan Greenspan recommending that consumers replace their fixed rate mortages with variable rate ones.
What a fucking asshole.
The big banks were buying all of the subprime lenders because lending standards were so lax. Lending standards lax because anyone could lend money and charge any interest rate they wanted.
Hey -- I was just doing my Saturday Hillary bashing downstairs.
Curse you, Atrios, for your pernicious abandonment!!!!!
Come on now
No one is honestly surprised about the lending fiasco. I just hope that there are dicks felled over it.
[For a dick to be felled it must be turgid with the excitement of its domintation]
So much for the morality of the Ayn Rand crowd.
Did you have espresso with dinner, Atrios?
Speaking of Golden Oldies, may I present....
"Although not myself a psychiatrist..."
evening moonbats 
The big banks were buying all of the subprime lenders because lending standards were so lax. Lending standards lax because anyone could lend money and charge any interest rate they wanted.
And the schmuck who got you the loan gets his commission and then sells it to someone else. He is no longer liable for any losses. Hence his goal is to move as much paper as possible regardless of the risks to the homeowners.
Classified ad for Pony Blow's old gig, just in case Perino doesn't work out.
Lending standards lax because anyone could lend money and charge any interest rate they wanted.
Snow, Liberal
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Speculative risk takers [who usually see profits] are not to be bailed out....says I.
Reading between the lines, Bernanke slammed Greenspan for that recommendation.
Heywood, I liked it!
Galloway document: first thoughts
domintation=domination
This whole situation presents a very interesting conundrum for me personally.
Monsieur teaching Mlle to use a power drill.
I fear bloodshed.
Dear Mr.-Not-Atrios, Perhaps you noticed that some astute financial investors predicted what you did and shorted the securities that went bust. If only we little folk could have had such opportunities! Next time there should be public options and other derivatives so we too can profit from fiscal mismanagement and insane policies.
Monsieur teaching Mlle to use a power drill
I'm enjoy the way he thinks, Sallyh.
And the schmuck who got you the loan gets his commission and then sells it to someone else.
Yep. So he loans to anyone and fudges the numbers if they need it.
oh well, I have to go investigate a sump pump that keeps going off. I either have a broken pump or broken pipes......
[gnaws at finger tips]
Housing fiasco is hitting us hard in SoCal. And we've only scratched the surface.
Nobody could have predicted that ridiculously high real estate prices would be unsustainable.
The Ministry of Defence has played down criticism of US post-war policy in Iraq by the former head of the British army.
In a Daily Telegraph interview, Gen Sir Mike Jackson, chief of general staff during the 2003 invasion, attacked the policy as "intellectually bankrupt".
The MoD said Sir Mike was entitled to express his opinion on his former job.
But John Bolton, former US ambassador to the UN, dismissed Sir Mike's criticism as "very simplistic" and "way off the mark"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/69.../uk/
6974284.stm
Pickles works on her legacy
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20070831-
9.html
Barndog, sorry to disappoint, but she's only putting locks on cabinets
A-man, I beg to differ. That wasn't a prediction, that was stating the obvious.
Kinda like saying if you get really drunk, and then get on a very fast motorcycle, you will soon be in need of skin grafts or a coffin.
Barndog, sorry to disappoint, but she's only putting locks on cabinets
DAMMIT!
Monsieur teaching Mlle to use a power drill.
I fear bloodshed.
Sallyh
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what is the status ReL Mlle's request for divorce? I missed all the talk.
What amazes me is that so many people fell for this in pursuit of the "American Dream" ...
Cripes, I grew up in the era when a house was maybe the equivalent of two years' worth of household income. And I grew up in Bergen County, NJ in a single income household. The house cost twice of my father's annual income. Now the same house would be five or six times his annual income.
Barndog, for other activities with a power drill, I'd like to leave it to qualified professionals such as yourself. Mlle's a rank amateur
Nancy, filing for divorce (she's hired an attorney), getting a restraining order, supervised custody for the father.
Yep. So he loans to anyone and fudges the numbers if they need it.
Snow, Liberal
What's the job market for property appraisers who aren't willing to fudge the numbers?
Monsieur teaching Mlle to use a power drill.
I fear bloodshed.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 09.01.07 - 3:21 pm | #
Sage advice from Matt Groening's "Life in Hell":
If you drink, don't drill.
Pickles works on her legacy
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shoot, I should go check my pipes, that may have to wait...
Next time there should be public options and other derivatives so we too can profit from fiscal mismanagement and insane policies.
There are two ways to profit from Bush's insane policies. The public one was Halliburton stock. The private one was Carlyle Group stock available only to select families like the Bushes and the bin Ladens.
Classified ad for Pony Blow's old gig, just in case Perino doesn't work out.
Heywood J. | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 3:18 pm | #
heh.
Pickles works on her legacy
All day cocktail hours?
I have never used a power drill for activities other than their intended usage.
And according to our president, it's all your fault for listening to Greenspan. Suckers. To paraphrase: "So what you got to do, see, is get your daddy's rich friends to bail you out. In other words, do what I've done my whole life when I get in a jam. Heh, heh, heh."
Barndog, I know. But I'm told you have skillz where it counts
Nancy, filing for divorce (she's hired an attorney), getting a restraining order, supervised custody for the father.
Sallyh
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I hope she knows how many good folks are delivering prayer and good tidings for her and g-d's future happiness and sanity.
Nancy, filing for divorce (she's hired an attorney), getting a restraining order, supervised custody for the father
YAY!
I have never used a power drill for activities other than their intended usage.
I love my power drill. That and the router and me made kitchen cabinets.
Gosh, you folks are mean.
What's the job market for property appraisers who aren't willing to fudge the numbers?
I meant income and debt, but there is no job market for appraisers unwilling to fudge the numbers to a degree. To what degree varies.
More police are now able to use Taser stun guns in the line of duty.
Non-firearm specialists in 10 forces across England and Wales are to be permitted to use the 50,000-volt weapons to protect themselves or civilians.
However, fears have been raised that the one-year trial could compromise public safety if it is not carefully handled.
Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman Nick Clegg said the pilot projects had to be conducted with "great caution and rigour".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
uklate...6890279,00.html
Ralphie, you haven't met mean till you've met Mlle's ex. And I hope you never do
Gosh, you folks are mean.
Ralphie-Myrmidon | 09.01.07 - 3:27 pm | #
Maybe, but some of us are also wicked funny.
But I'm told you have skillz where it counts
News to me.
Brooklyn Girl, I count you in the wicked funny camp.
I also never want to get on your bad side
And, no, I had no idea that lending standards would get so lax and that rating agencies would looking the other way, but...
It's amazing how effective greed is in getting people to do profoundly stupid things.
Becoming a predatory lender to fleece your customers ain't such a bright idea given that their financial failures will inevitably take you out as well. That should have been numbingly obvious from the start.
BAGHDAD (AP) - A huge suicide attack in northern Iraq caused civilian deaths to rise slightly in August despite security gains elsewhere, making it the second deadliest month for Iraqis since the U.S. troop buildup began, figures compiled by The Associated Press showed Saturday.
At least 1,809 civilians were killed, compared to 1,760 in July, based on figures compiled from official Iraqi reports.
The August total included 520 people killed in quadruple suicide bombings near the Syrian border on Aug. 14, the deadliest day since the war began in March 2003. The attacks targeted Yazidis, a small Kurdish-speaking sect whose members are considered to be blasphemers by Muslim extremists.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
worldl...6890272,00.html
Barndog, I'm sure Mrs. Barndog would attest to your mad skillz, at least in the kitchen
Ralphie, you haven't met mean till you've met Mlle's ex. And I hope you never do
I and you both know that I will never meet this guy.
Condi was the Pickles of forign policy.
Brooklyn Girl, I count you in the wicked funny camp.
I also never want to get on your bad side
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 09.01.07 - 3:29 pm | #
Gosh! Thank you, and not to worry!
Ralphie, and you're lucky
Becoming a predatory lender to fleece your customers ain't such a bright idea given that their financial failures will inevitably take you out as well. That should have been numbingly obvious from the start.
Not if you continually flip the loans.
It's amazing how effective greed is in getting people to do profoundly stupid things.
Becoming a predatory lender to fleece your customers ain't such a bright idea given that their financial failures will inevitably take you out as well. That should have been numbingly obvious from the start.
Richard
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BIG DADDY BAIL OUT - yeah yeah yeah
She is billed as the world's oldest blogger. At 95 years old and with a worldwide following that has seen more than 340,000 hits on her blog, Spaniard María Amelia López has achieved the kind of status that millions of younger internet chroniclers can only dream of.
López, who was introduced to the world of blogging by one of her grandchildren just eight months ago, has become such a global hit that she receives posts in languages as strange and impossible for her to understand as Russian, Japanese and Arabic.
"My name is Amelia and I was born in Muxía (A Coruña - Spain) on December the 23rd of 1911," she wrote as her first post on amis95.blogspot.com. "Today it's my birthday and my grandson, who is very stingy, gave me a blog."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/techno...y/2007/sep/01/
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Ralphie, and you're lucky
Yes, yes I am. I just came back from the Martini Club and I drank three. Did not lose a shake. Next week I may get plastered, and lose. Today I can say I'm lucky, at least in dice.
Years ago there was an article in Business Week titled "There's Too Much Damn Capital Out There." Securitization has greatly increased the amount of capital available for both residential and commercial real estate lending. Therefore, in both venues standards were relaxed as lenders hurried to make loans and then sell them in pools for securitization (a pool of loans can be sold for more than the principal balance because it is inherently less risky than the individual loans), thus making a quick profit. Lending groups everywhere rushed to make and sell loans to show profits to their corporations. As a result of the tremendous amount of available capital, both the resi and commercial worlds have gone too far. I blame the rating agencies for not holding the loan portfolios to reasonable standards as they are the ultimate check and balance in securitization.
Moonbo, she sounds like a kick
Nancy, thank you for your kind words.
It will be ugly for a while, but we'll all survive
And, no, I had no idea that lending standards would get so lax and that rating agencies would looking the other way, but...
Who were the Republicans taking mortgage industry policy advice from? Neal Bush?
George, well, he does have work experience...
With a mix of humour, warmth, optimism, nostalgia and feisty outbursts of leftwing polemic, she has won a regular readership of people keen to find out just what this Spanish great-grandmother is going to say or do next.
"You have to live life," the silver-haired blogger said in her most recent post. "Not sit around in an armchair waiting for death."
Her blog tracks not just a nonagenarian's day-to-day battles against aches, but offers musings on everything from politics and religion to broadband and death.
Among her chief hates are old people's homes, which she criticises for drugging their clients so they spend their final days snoozing quietly in front of the television.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/techno...y/2007/sep/01/
1
My last home I had an arm(don't recall what terminology the lender used, but it wasn't arm) and it's a bit embarrassing to admit that I didn't realize it until that post in 04. Ok, it's really embarrassing, but thank goodness for the divine guidance of a blogging econ phd.
I'll never forget the first time I saw that "Default. Foreclosure. Cardboard box." in print.
Yes, yes I am. I just came back from the Martini Club and I drank three. Did not lose a shake. Next week I may get plastered, and lose. Today I can say I'm lucky, at least in dice.
Ralphie-Myrmidon
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now that is a fine line!
I used to be on a pool league and I could regularly win if I had a few drinks in me. But should I breach that magic number, I always lost.
Badger Football Time!!!
George, well, he does have work experience...
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Little did we know the billion dollar Silverado bailout was just an appetizer...
Russia planning moon mission
MOSCOW, Aug. 31 (UPI) -- Russia says it will send cosmonauts to the moon by 2025, with plans for a permanent manned base.
Anatoly Perminov, head of the space agency, said a manned flight to Mars is scheduled for after 2035. He said Russia will have 103 satellites in orbit by the end of the year, RIA Novosti reported Friday.
Perminov said the first Russian will make a tourist flight from Baikonur to the International Space Station in 2009.
The man, whose name was not disclosed, is a young Russian businessman and politician.
Tickets for tourist space flights, priced at around $30 million, are a major source of revenue for the agency, RIA Novosti said.
A recently constructed road bridge has collapsed in the southern Pakistan city of Karachi, killing at least six people and injuring others.
Rescuers were trying to clear the wreckage to retrieve those trapped and injured amid fears the death toll from Saturday's accident could rise.
At least two cars and a police van were crushed under the debris, and a truck with a trailer and a minibus lay upturned by the fallen bridge.
The bridge was opened only two months ago by Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani president.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...890DA3DB08A.htm
Democracy was really shitted during the Gore/Bush crooked election with the Nazi Supremes deciding the election. I keep wondering if there might be some other reason we know nothing about why Gore didn't fight more for a fair and honest count. They are a scurvy bunch.
Nancy,
Just because I won today doesn' mean that I won't lose next week. We all take are wins and losses in aggregate.
I remember this period. And Atrios talking about it woke to what horrors ARMS are. It was just after this that we refinanced and almost got suckered into one of them. Thank you Atrios for the warning, without it, I may not be in this house today.
Yeah Atrios, But can you bent spoons with your mind?
Badger Football Time!!!
dew, Edwards/Kucinich | 09.01.07 - 3:37 pm |
If there aren't any Butch Otters, I'm not interested.
Badgers? We ain't got no stinkin' badgers!
I must now watch Badger football. Hairy, but fun.
AUKLAND, NZ, August 30, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - British Actor Ian McKellen who has used the mega-stardom he achieved playing Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings films to promote homosexuality, has admitted to ripping out pages of hotel bibles that refer to homosexuality.
In an August 10 interview on New Zealand's TV1 Close Up program McKellen was confronted by the interviewer questioning the truth of the rumour "He's the one, that when he stays in hotels rips the part of the bible out that criticizes homosexuality."
"Yes it is true," responded McKellen in even tones. "Its Leviticus 18:22 that I object to, or is it 22:18, I've always got to look it up. Thou shalt not lie with a man as with a woman, it is an abomination. And they, I think the punishment for an abomination was being stoned to death," he said.
McKellen added, "I think it's rather obscene and pornographic, and shouldn't be there, so I remove it."
Asked how many bibles he has vandalized, McKellen replied, "I have no idea, but other people do it as well, people send me evidence that they have been removing that."
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007...g/
07083005.html
Badger Football Time!!!
dew, Edwards/Kucinich | 09.01.07 - 3:37 pm | #
Good luck seeing it on tv. Screw Charter and Big Ten TV.
Basra Badgers?
Basra Badgers?
I don't think so.
I keep wondering if there might be some other reason we know nothing about why Gore didn't fight more for a fair and honest count.
It is just a coincidence that politicians who stood up against Bush died in plane crashes or had anthrax mailed to them.
Nancy,
Just because I won today doesn' mean that I won't lose next week. We all take are wins and losses in aggregate.
Ralphie-Myrmidon
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aye, the shakes are lucky not skilled in nature. Is the aggregate as in no one gets cash out of it until christmaas or something?
" I blame the rating agencies for not holding the loan portfolios to reasonable standards as they are the ultimate check and balance in securitization."
--TEBB
Who are the rating agencies?
Asked how many bibles he has vandalized, McKellen replied, "I have no idea, but other people do it as well, people send me evidence that they have been removing that."
I usually open the motel bibles up to a random page and write in magic marker "Call me. -Larry Craig", followed by his senate phone number.
michigan blows.
haha.
another 95 year old blogger - Allan Lööf (Swedish)
Badgers? We ain't got no stinkin' badgers!
Richard | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 3:40 pm | #
Ouch.
I have never used a power drill for activities other than their intended usage.
Oh c'mon, everyone has used their drill as a hammer at least once.
Yeah Atrios, But can you bent spoons with your mind?
mdhatter
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check this shit out
Gurudev Swami Nityananda will discuss the mind's workings Sept. 11 at the University of Delaware.
"Swami to discuss how to work with the mind, "This world is the creation of the mind," he wrote. "Once the mind becomes mindless, there is no world. There is only heaven."
It was just after this that we refinanced and almost got suckered into one of them.
I seem to recall someone posting at the time about an incident where a banker was basically attempting a bait and switch- saying that he wasn't giving the person in question an ARM, but then trying to get them to sign a document which outlined an ARM in the fine print.
webster tarpley..economic historian
http://www.kpfa.org/archives/ind....php?
arch=22000
Badgers? We ain't got no stinkin' badgers!
Sure you do. You just need to ferret them out.
Soldiers and a sailor in fight to be Mr Gay UK
When I refinanced in 2003 after the remodel, rates for 30 year were at 5.75. My mom mentioned that the ARMs had really attractive rates...some of them were at the time in the 2.75 range, I think....and I just thought, no way. Interest rates being as low as they were at the time, I knew that just meant it was going to spur a round of overborrowing which would within a few years send the rates way up. And I'd be sitting there adjusting up, up, up....
Greenspan's "advice" was premised on keeping the economy superficially perking along for a few more years through overborrowing, rather than on giving sound advice to individual borrowers. Deeply irresponsible, but it seems turd polishing is all the rage these days, as discussed earlier regarding Condi.
Annual sales of organic products in Britain have risen to the verge of £2 billion but higher production costs and increasing demand mean prices are likely to be forced higher.
Sales of organic food and drink increased by 22 per cent in a year, with the market for boxes of organic vegetables growing by 53 per cent. Each week the British public spends an average of £37 million on organic products – bringing spending in 2006 to £1,935 million.
Organic farmers are, according to the Soil Association, three times more likely than other farmers to sell their produce locally or direct to customers. The shortage of homegrown feed for livestock was cited by the Soil Association, which today publishes its annual Organic Market Report, as one of the biggest threats to price stability. Rising fuel prices and the impact of global warming were also factors regarded as likely to increase costs passed on to the consumer.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle2364102.ece
At least the elites will get a hell of a deal on cheap houses!
O.T. I saw Rep Michelle Bachmann (R-Megachurch) at the MN State Fair last night. She was blathering on about how more money should be spent on road and bridge upkeep for the state, but that spending money on our proposed light rail line was ridiculous since this would only serve 2% of Minnesotans.
Yeah, only the 2% who commute and work in the economic heart of our state!
Some of the world's most hirsute faces have gathered on the English south coast to see who has the fullest beard or the most stylish moustache.
Competitors from the UK, America, Germany and many other countries are taking part in the World Beard and Moustache Championships in Brighton.
The 2007 event is being hosted by The Handlebar Club which was set up exactly 60 years ago in a London theatre.
Categories include Dali moustache, goatee and full beard freestyle.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne...sex/
6972315.stm
Since "The Fed" is privately controlled, why do they deceptively call it "The Fed"?
Jennifer, we refinanced in 03 too. We were on an adjustable and interest rates were so low our payment had dropped to around $250/month. We took out a five-year fixed for $550/month. After the fifth year the loan can go adjustable again, but the lord willing and the creek don't rise, the house will be paid for next June.
Also, did you know you are the first commentor on that March 04 post?
Greenspan is largely responsible for the sub prime mess. He lowers interest rates down to virtually nothing, and then everyone is surprised when everybody and his wife starts loading themselves up on cheap debt.
Also, it has fuled the speculators, borrowing billions of $ to take over blue chip companies and , then heaping large debts on these, same, companies. Lots of people could end up loosing their jobs over this.
way OT: CHAMPIONSHIP CATEGORIES
Moustaches - Natural, English, Dali, Imperial, Hungarian, Freestyle
Partial Beards - Natural Goatee, Chinese, Musketeer, Imperial, Freestyle, Sideburns Freestyle
Full Beards - Verdi, Garibaldi, Natural Full, Natural Full with Styled Moustache, Freestyle
Big beards and mighty moustaches
webster tarpley..economic historian
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interesting person
is he for real? vetted 'n all?
O.T. I saw Rep Michelle Bachmann (R-Megachurch) at the MN State Fair last night. She was blathering on about how more money should be spent on road and bridge upkeep for the state, but that spending money on our proposed light rail line was ridiculous since this would only serve 2% of Minnesotans.
Back in the early 80's the entire area had a major vote to fund local transit. Each city had a say, and voted for or against. Most of the burbs voted for it and we now have a major rail system in place. All except my neck of the woods. Well this last week they officially broke ground on the line to my town. How exciting!
can't quite believe its already the 1st of Sept
heh soon stores will have their christmas stock out 
Since "The Fed" is privately controlled, why do they deceptively call it "The Fed"?
Gilly Gonzylon
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oy
I've got the URGE
To say the SURGE
is working.
We have won in Iraq. Liberals and Al Qaeda have lost.
I could be wrong, but I remember him making the same comments in late '01 or early '02. I just about fell out of my chair when we watched his comments on TV.
Since "The Fed" is privately controlled, why do they deceptively call it "The Fed"?
It's a hell of a ruse.
International aid agency Medecins Sans Frontiers has accused Ethiopia of denying it access to the country's eastern Ogaden region.
The barren region has recently been the scene of a fierce conflict between government troops and rebel forces.
The exclusion follows an order to the Red Cross to stop operations in Ogaden.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/afric...ica/
6973816.stm
We have won in Iraq.
YEa!
What'd you win? Can we see your prize?
no shit sherlock - This summer appears to have been the wettest since rainfall records began in 1914, according to provisional data from the UK's Met Office.
Britain had 358.5mm of rain, just beating the 1956 record of 358.4mm.
The main reason for the high rainfall has been the unusually southerly position of the jet stream, a band of strong winds high in the atmosphere.
Following earlier floods in central and southern England, five areas of the country are still on flood alert.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...ure/
6971328.stm
It's a hell of a ruse.
A ruse is a ruse is a ruse
-William Shakespeare Greenspan.
TD Badgers!
heh soon stores will have their christmas stock out
Moonbootica,
I was in the grocery store early this morning, they were taking down barbecue stuff in the "seasonal" aisle. I'm sure if I went back there now, it would be full of halloween candy and spider webs, etc
BOULDER, Colo. - Brian Bonsall, who played Andy Keaton in "Family Ties," pleaded guilty to third-degree assault in a case involving his girlfriend and was sentenced to two years' probation, prosecutors said.
What would we do baby....
he's very real and very serious. the situation we find ourselves in is frankly devastating. very serious intervue. give it a listen. http://www.kpfa.org/archives/ind....php?
arch=22000
I'm so glad Atrios posted this.
I was sure I read blogging about this stuff years ago, but haven't been able to find old posts about it.
I think the NY Observer did several articles on the dangers of ARMs.
I, for one, would love to read more from economic writers who were warning about this, back then.
Also, did you know you are the first commentor on that March 04 post?
mer
I was? I guess I should go check out what I said.
We have won in Iraq. Liberals and Al Qaeda have lost.
pud | 09.01.07 - 3:57 pm | #
I would dearly love to stick around and slap this idiot silly, but alas I must outta here.
Talk to you all much later to night, hopefully with a snootful.
Some stores put out Halloween and Christmas stuff at the same time, which takes even more joy out of it, seeing it together on the shelves.
We have won in Iraq. Liberals and Al Qaeda have lost.
How could we have lost if al Qaeda lost?
How could we have lost if al Qaeda lost?
More importantly, what is it they lost? Their virginity?
The pudster, in da haus!
Blessed be the uneducated, for they art pud.
Heh. Still blowing dogs, pud ?
I had no idea lending standards would get so lax either.
If I'd known, I probably would have bought something years ago.
I'd have insisted on a fixed rate loan though.
BOULDER, Colo. - Brian Bonsall, who played Andy Keaton in "Family Ties," pleaded guilty to third-degree assault in a case involving his girlfriend and was sentenced to two years' probation, prosecutors said.
I had no idea. Even more bizarre is that this is the photo of him the local paper has with the story.
Hitler rescued the German economy from liberal al communists.
he's very real and very serious. the situation we find ourselves in is frankly devastating. very serious intervue. give it a listen. http://www.kpfa.org/archives/ind....php? arch=22000
coyne
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I intend to
thanks for the link
We have won in Iraq. Liberals and Al Qaeda have lost.
What an asshole. No mention of how the Iraqi people have lost everything.
What an asshole. No mention of how the Iraqi people have lost everything.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
It's all about defeating TEH LIBS, notice how al qaeda is second
ATLANTA (Reuters) - Tropical Storm Felix could become a hurricane Saturday night or on Sunday and may be a Category 3 hurricane by the middle of next week, the U.S. National Hurricane Center said.
Felix, which has maximum winds of near 70 mph (110 kph) and is moving west, skirted the Caribbean island of Grenada overnight and would pass near or to the north of the islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao Saturday night or early Sunday morning.
"Felix could become a hurricane later tonight or on Sunday," said the hurricane center said on Saturday afternoon.
A projection on the Weather Underground Web site showed Felix becoming a Category 1 hurricane at 8 a.m. (1200 GMT) on Sunday.
"We are forecasting it to be a Category 3 hurricane in the northwestern Caribbean Sea by the middle of the week," forecaster Eric Blake of the National Hurricane Center said in Miami.
There were no indications the storm would reach the Gulf of Mexico, home to a third of U.S. domestic crude oil and 15 percent of natural gas production. But long-range forecasts are unreliable, the center said.
Greenspan should be shot for giving Americans that advice. Finances are a scary, indescipherable area for many Americans. They don't expect someone in his position to lead them astray. He did. Meanwhile, people who understood took out fixed rate mortgages, even though the rates were higher than the "teaser" rates.
this is the photo of him
Hopefully not a recent one.
Heh. Still blowing dogs, pud ?
Gilly Gonzylon
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Easy to blow under a bathroom stall divider, wee dogs are the new accessory of teh gay.
that Brian Bonsall has aged well
Barclays Capital, the financial group's investment banking arm, yesterday bailed out a $1.6bn (£800m) hedge fund as the global credit squeeze and US sub-prime mortgage crisis claimed another victim.
The news increased jitters about Barclays in the City, as it followed Thursday's revelation that it borrowed £1.6bn from the Bank of England after a breakdown in the electronic system that processes trades.
Barclays, however, stressed it was not facing financial difficulties. It said its decision to borrow from the Bank of England - at a penalty rate of interest - was due to a technical hitch, and the bail-out of the Cairn Capital fund was unrelated.
http://business.guardian.co.uk/
s...2160297,00.html
We have won in Iraq. Liberals and Al Qaeda have lost.
That jughead Inhofe issued an official statement from his office, declaring that the RPGs fired at his plane were an attempt by al Qaeda to influence "teh Mission". Somebody's gotta ask him what evidence he has of AQ involvement.
Don't they?
Are there no prisons?
Are there no workhouses?
"And, no, I had no idea that lending standards would get so lax and that rating agencies would looking the other way, but..."
Republicans got their way and got the gov off "our" backs. Unfortunately the rich will still profit grotesquely from this disaster.
They don't expect someone in his position to lead them astray. He did.
What was he thinking?!!!
Another one who legacy will be forever stained.
And you called it all right, Atrios. I remember people being quite pissed when Greenspan gave that advice. You didn't even have to have a economics degree to see what could happen. It was commonsense.
sorry - not of teh gay - I should have said of the perverted sickfucks who populate bathrooms in hopes of anonymous sex.
It is not about being gay. It is about public sex risk-taking.
Trollies who pretend there is anything resembling progress in Iraq have as much cred as the ones who claim Craig was "driven out of office" by the "liberal media." Oh wait, they're the same trollies!
Both stances require them to ignore that the GOP leadership is responsible and pretend there is even a tiny scrap of support for their positions, which of course they can never produce. Cf. global warming.
Finances are a scary, indescipherable area for many Americans.
Why is that? I'm not sure I even understand the concept. If x amount of money comes in, I can only spend z. Isn't that what finances are about?
On the subject of the previous post, it's time for at least one of the Dem hopefuls to start divulging the dirty little secrets all the Very Serious People know:
1. Bush is going to dump Iraq on the next president. His entire strategy is to dump Iraq on the next president. If it's a Dem, even better. If it's a GOPper, he doesn't care.
2. Hillary wouldn't mind putting a strongman in charge, because she knows 1. and wants a quick, dirty way out of Iraq, just not now.
3. The GOPpers think the same.
4. Everyone is shit-scared of the withdrawal scenario.
And Steve Gilliard (RIP) may not have been so good at predicting elections, but his prediction of what withdrawal from Iraq would look like still holds true.
Are there no think tanks?
That jughead Inhofe issued an official statement from his office, declaring that the RPGs fired at his plane were an attempt by al Qaeda to influence "teh Mission". Somebody's gotta ask him what evidence he has of AQ involvement.
Certainly there were liberals involved as well. We hate teh Mission.
Just for the hell of it, I decided to try to get unemployment after the Borg and I split up. There's a provision in AZ that even if you leave voluntarily, you may be entitled. Today, after a long chat with the unemployment office on Thursday, I get a form letter informing me that I can't have unemployment because "You refused to accept a referral to, or an offer of work because it would not have utilized your highest skill. Employment in your highest skill is extremely limited due to current labor market conditions, and the referral or offer was otherwise suitable. You have not shown good caue for your refusal of suitable work." Understand that the 'highest skill' referred to is that of technical writer, and the offer of work was entry level clerical. Now let's think. The State is telling me that I am, so long as I am employed, functionally indentured. I have no recourse at all other than leaving - but in leaving, I forfeit all rights.
It's a whole new world of work. I'm very glad I don't have to play any more.
Inhofe issued an official statement from his office, declaring that the RPGs fired at his plane
Fucking incompetents.
That jughead Inhofe issued an official statement from his office, declaring that the RPGs fired at his plane were an attempt by al Qaeda to influence "teh Mission".
I am sick and tired of hearing about his ignorant ravings.
Get the freaking hook.
" fired at his plane were an attempt by al Qaeda to influence "teh Mission"."
isn;t Teh mission to defeat "al qaeda" ?
And on topic, I'm still waiting for 'negative equity' to enter the vocabulary of the press, just as it did in the UK after 1992.
bye for now
Republicans got their way and got the gov off "our" backs. Unfortunately the rich will still profit grotesquely from this disaster.
Fight Poverty
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that is why it is likely to have been postulated in teh right musty clubs long ago when they where soliciting the new ingenutiy suitable for the Rove-Delay-Abramoff R's forevah strategy.
The State is telling me that I am, so long as I am employed, functionally indentured. I have no recourse at all other than leaving - but in leaving, I forfeit all rights.
It's a whole new world of work. I'm very glad I don't have to play any more.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 4:13 pm | #
NO GLOATING!
And on topic, I'm still waiting for 'negative equity' to enter the vocabulary of the press, just as it did in the UK after 1992.
pseudonymous in nc |
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double oy
with sour cream on top
isn;t Teh mission to defeat "al qaeda" ?
olexicon
/checks watch, cross-references "reasons to be in Iraq chart/
Not until seven pm eastern, we're still on "Establishing Democracy in Iraq" for the afternoon.
What are they going to do, take your health care away? Oh, wait, you're down *there*.
I can't believe you guys didn't know that Patrick Nielsen Hayden was one of the earliest liberal political bloggers. He's also one of the most important editors in science fiction, but that's another story.
(It's possible Atrios picked the news up off of my blog. It's a big day for liberal bloggy sf folks.)
LEXINGTON, S.C. - Bored with life on his family's South Carolina horse farm, Willard McCormick decided that military service was the right plan for his future. And when the Army dangled its new, $20,000 recruiting bonus in front of him, the decision got a lot easier.
"I wasn't going to go right away, but I heard about the bonus and decided to jump on it," McCormick, 19, said a couple of days after signing up.
LOL. Reduce the gene pool of puds. Waitasec- pud never enlisted.
plantsman, I beieve the polite term is "upside down."
"that is why it is likely to have been postulated in teh right musty clubs"
All part of the plan.
" fired at his plane were an attempt by al Qaeda to influence "teh elections"."
Found that typo
Finances are a scary, indescipherable area for many Americans.
Why is that? I'm not sure I even understand the concept.
Well, when they start talking about points and percentage and this fee and that fee and you're just sitting there hoping that you're going to be able to get the house, it can be confusing for a lot of people. We don't do a good job teaching high schoolers to be financially literate.
And, I agree with you that the concept that if I make X I should spend less than X is pretty simple, but there's an entire credit and advertising industry devoted to convincing people that "you deserve it" and that "you can have it now".
we're still on "Establishing Democracy in Iraq" for the afternoon.
Jim |
sorry my talking points are outdated
Inhofe issued an official statement from his office, declaring that the RPGs fired at his plane
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the new friendly fire = must be good for Republicans
One thing irks me about Thom Hartmann's show - he seems to really love "debating" wingers and libertarians. Problem is, aside from their being infinitely annoying, the debate goes something like - he gives them unfettered airtime to spout crackpottery, then he dismantles them with fatcs, then they dismiss the facts in favor of their elegant theories.
The idea that their theories never seem to hold up causes them no intellectual distress whatsoever. See, their theory goes to 11.
We don't do a good job teaching high schoolers to be financially literate.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
The American population is deliberately dumbed down. See "Miss S Carolina"
spedning tonight at a Junior Hockey training camp
oh yeah, and did weeks column, which I am proud of
http://www.melfortjournal.com/Co...mns/
334357.html
The American population is deliberately dumbed down. See "Miss S Carolina"
Sadly, I agree with this.
TD Badgers!
14 all.
Avedon
Thanks
I was going to have to google him
olexicon, at woik | 09.01.07 - 4:19 pm | #
Good one! I can certainly relate to the sentiment.
Every time one of these fringie GOPers spouts off, it is to promote some theory of the way things work, or to simply falsify the available information, like they're doing with the Iraqi civilian death count, to try to make it support their theories. Hard evidence that their theories fail to capture reality, whether in war, housing, the economy, the environment, you name it - falls on finger-plugged ears.
And you called it all right, Atrios. I remember people being quite pissed when Greenspan gave that advice. You didn't even have to have a economics degree to see what could happen. It was commonsense.
I remember arguing here with some people who were taking out ARMs with teaser rates. They were so sure that the value of their properties was going to increase so much that they'd be just fine.
Idiots.
The American population is deliberately dumbed down.
More than you might imagine. Go live outside the US for a while; when you first come back it will hit you like a brick to the head. I know plenty of fine, intelligent folks, but the stupid is increasing at a dangerous speed.
I can certainly relate to the sentiment.
Gilly Gonzylon
It's not like I'm an old man
I just have a long memory
someone (a shameless apologist)was saying that the Miss SC preparations included what to say instead of the perpetual
like
that kids use now-a-days and that that is why she flubbed it so badly - she kept saying like and then adding in teh substitute terminolgy on top of it. Poor soul.
"...the concept that if I make X I should spend less than X is pretty simple, but there's an entire credit and advertising industry devoted to convincing people that 'you deserve it' and that 'you can have it now'."
--Hecate,
That credit card companies would even offer credit to someone in college, without a job, is inconceivable to me. I wish the damned things had never been invented.
And now on to IRAN, SYRIA, INDONESIA, TEH MALDIVES, TINY TOBAGO, VERMONT......
...YEARGH11!!!
I knew something wrong was afoot (more than normal lack of funding for schools) in 1965 when the school system threw the textbooks away and declared that the "Language Experience Approach" was the new surefire success for teaching reading where they wrote their own reading stories. Then they knocked the walls between classrooms down and totally declared Chaos. (So like republicans).
We don't do a good job teaching high schoolers to be financially literate.
Or adults either.
One of my associates (who has a master's degree) was thinking of buying a condo recently- her broker told her she qualified for 100% financing and told her to take out an ARM.
I was aghast, "What about PMI? what if the interest rate climate gets worse, as it surely might?"
She sez, "Oh, he sez I'll appreciate out of the PMI in 6 months."
Me, "%***##!!$$ goddamned real estate assholes"
Luckily she didn't find anything she liked in her price range and she's reconsidered. She's waiting until prices come down here and she has a good downpayment.
olexicon, at woik
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noice! you are a young puppy compared to me~!
It's not like I'm an old man
I just have a long memory
olexicon, at woik | 09.01.07 - 4:22 pm | #
Cameron Crowe(sp) says he makes mix tapes all the time and puts dates on the labels to "capture" a moment for future movies. Certainly worked for "Almost Famous", although I preferred the Rick Linkletter's "Dazed and Confused" musical choices.
I knew something wrong was afoot (more than normal lack of funding for schools) in 1965 when the school system threw the textbooks away and declared that the "Language Experience Approach" was the new surefire success for teaching reading where they wrote their own reading stories. Then they knocked the walls between classrooms down and totally declared Chaos. (So like republicans).
I was in grade school in the late sixties and that didn't fucking happen.
It's a whole new world of work. I'm very glad I don't have to play any more.
GWPDA
What has appalled me most of all was the thought of a shared cubicle. Not even a shared office. A shared cubicle. Yup, I'm am very happy I am not entering the workforce now.
Miss South Carolina is going to turn that bit into a gold mine. You just watch. She's already looking for endorsements.
Certainly worked for "Almost Famous", although I preferred the Rick Linkletter's "Dazed and Confused" musical choices.
THen you are a nutcase.
The soundtrack to Almost Famous is brilliant- and is also from 1973, 3 years before the time Dazed and Confused was set in.
although I preferred the Rick Linkletter's "Dazed and Confused" musical choices.
Gilly Gonzylon
totally
I particularly like the use of "tuesdays gone" at the nend of the beer bust at the moon tower
Also, reading Kevin Drum's post, he's right: Petraeus has played the Dems like a ukulele.
Is there time to organise a march on Congress with 'Petraeus = Karl Rove in uniform' signs?
You know, I count myself as one of the lucky ones for having taken a social studies elective class in high school called "Consumer Economics." It was about making budgets and balancing checkbooks, and we all took it because we thought it'd be an easy A, but we learned a lot.
Miss South Carolina is going to turn that bit into a gold mine. You just watch. She's already looking for endorsements.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 4:27 pm | #
"You've watched The OC. Now from WB comes The Iraq"
I was in grade school in the late sixties and that didn't fucking happen.
Well, lucky you. Where did you live pray tell. Never heard of the Language Experience Approach or open classrooms, eh?
Miss South Carolina is going to turn that bit into a gold mine. You just watch. She's already looking for endorsements.
You know what was pathetic? she got a do-over on Good Morning America (or whatever) and she still sounded just as stupid.
the "Tiny Dancer" scene in ALMOST FAMOUS
always makes me cry
That jughead Inhofe issued an official statement from his office, declaring that the RPGs fired at his plane were an attempt by al Qaeda to influence "teh Mission".
I'm only surprised he didn't blame it on environmentalists.
Of course, he's been fed this line by the General Betray-us press office.
Add to that the fact that realtors like to "steer" you towards the top end of what you can afford housing-wise, in my experience. My mortgage is locked in low... I can NOT afford to have my monthly payment suddenly go up $100 or $300 or $700.
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That credit card companies would even offer credit to someone in college, without a job, is inconceivable to me. I wish the damned things had never been invented.
Someone on Hartmann's show yesterday said that his 14-y-o son gets numerous offers. The number of offers sent out was something unbelievable - like in the billions.
The idea that their theories never seem to hold up causes them no intellectual distress whatsoever. See, their theory goes to 11.
JeffCO |
What bothers me is that he doesn't dismiss the 9/11 conspiracy nuts out of hand but encourages them to keep digging.
You know what was pathetic? she got a do-over on Good Morning America (or whatever) and she still sounded just as stupid.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
disproving the notion that tehre are no second acts in American Life
if I make X I should spend less than X is pretty simple
Helps if you know what X is. In my case, I had an "average X" (based on 10 years of freelance toon income) so I saved about 10-15% on an average year, more on above average, but had to dip into savings a bit in a year that averaged less than 85-90% of my regular average year. Then came media consolidation, and the income went all over the place, but never quite reached an average year, including one year when it was only 15% of an average year. Hard to survive a few of those in a row.
Hey I have an idea! Let's turn the home mortgage market into a gambling casino!
-shorter Alan Greenspan
and Finny isn't here to Taunt about the labour day classic!
"You refused to accept a referral to, or an offer of work because it would not have utilized your highest skill.
GWPDA
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I assume that you checked off this box on the forms?
Yahoo had Miss South Carolina as "hostess" of a geography quiz the other day.
Well, lucky you. Where did you live pray tell. Never heard of the Language Experience Approach or open classrooms, eh?
Fight Poverty | 09.01.07 - 4:28 pm | #
My dad was Air Force, so we were stationed all over the country.
I did see some open classrooms, but not many (the partitioned would be opened up for 2 classes to see a film together or something like that), but I never saw the Language Experience Approach for reading.
What I did see what a lot of SRS and other assigned reading.
Of course, he's been fed this line by the General Betray-us press office.
pseudonymous in nc
Steve Benen has a good post on what a dishonest schmuck Petraeus is, and I can't find it now, but somebody has one about how some GOOPers want to make Petraeus the nominee in 2012.
The Dolchstosslegende Eisenhower.
Hey I have an idea! Let's turn the home mortgage market into a gambling casino!
-shorter Alan Greenspan
spinoza
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s'ok cuz daddy will bail us out
What bothers me is that he doesn't dismiss the 9/11 conspiracy nuts out of hand but encourages them to keep digging.
I think he doesn't want to be accused of being in on the conspiracy like Ed Schultz, who usually hangs up on them.
the "Tiny Dancer" scene in ALMOST FAMOUS
always makes me cry
olexicon, at woik | 09.01.07 - 4:29 pm | #
"I am a golden God" comes directly from a Robert Plant quote, from the balcony of the Riot House.
What I did see what a lot of SRS and other assigned reading.
Called the Individualized Curriculum (they always had special names) and equally disastrous for most except for the very bright and motivated.
What has appalled me most of all was the thought of a shared cubicle. Not even a shared office. A shared cubicle. Yup, I'm am very happy I am not entering the workforce now.
ql-was in NY
It's the way workers are treated in corporate land. Completely interchangeable, and completely disposable. The oddity to this is that the cost of acquiring a new employee is horrific - but there is no particular effort to retain them. The biggest corporate voiced concern at the Borg was in fact 'retaining employees' - but it was purely superficial. The reality is that the entire concept of being employed in the United States is now regarded in much the same terms as it was in Victorian England. A triumph for the neo-conservatives.
Alan Greenspan losing his virginity to Ayn Rand was the butterfly effect that has led to economic chaos.
I was in grade school in the late sixties and that didn't fucking happen.
fourlegsrgood
It was a fad, but more like in the seventies. The open classroom got closed very quickly. They are still, afaik, teaching whole language instead of a combination of whole language and phonics. I decided reading was too important to leave to the schools and both my kids entered kindergarten able to read.
"I am a golden God" comes directly from a Robert Plant quote, from the balcony of the Riot House.
Gilly Gonzylon
i love the use of "everybody knows this nowhere" at the house party too
i love the use of "everybody knows this nowhere" at the house party too
olexicon, at woik | 09.01.07 - 4:34 pm | #
"Wanna see me feed a mouse to my pet snake?"
It says in my paper today that Barclays has borrowed £1.6 billion from the Bank of England, and some guy who works for Barclays, nicknamed ‘Captain Sensible’ has apparently disappeared.
Captain Sensible was responsible for lending to the sub prime market in the US. Don’t know what to make of it, but it sounds very odd.
"Wanna see me feed a mouse to my pet snake?"
Gilly Gonzylon
"The red cups have acid in theM"
Anybody else learn reading first with "I.T.A.?" It was a weird phonetic way of spelling. A year later we had to learn all the words all over again, spelled the right way.
"I am a golden God" comes directly from a Robert Plant quote, from the balcony of the Riot House.
Gilly Gonzylon
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well
Plant could assert that without acid!
Anybody else learn reading first with "I.T.A.?"
That was there too. A lot of business money was made and still is, when they were allowed to influence the schools with curriculum and theory.
Although I always liked reading, I consider myself quite fortunate that for a small township school (~125 kids in my class, give or take a few the same kids from 1st to 12th grade), we had a few very good English teachers and an accelerated program in 4th-6th grades. Of course, the guy who taught it was unmarried, in his 40s, lived with his mom, and liked to keep his hand on the boys' shoulders, but he was quite a good instructor.
Called the Individualized Curriculum (they always had special names) and equally disastrous for most except for the very bright and motivated.
Fight Poverty | 09.01.07 - 4:33 pm | #
How old are you?
We all fucking learned to read.
Hells bells.
my older siblings sat me down and taught me how to read. By the time I was four and a half I was visiting the library.
Kids need people to engage them with books not teevee shows.
Plant could assert that without acid!
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 4:37 pm | #
"And you can tell Rolling Stone Magazine, my last words were.....I'm on Drugs!"
Alan Greenspan losing his virginity to Ayn Rand was the butterfly effect that has led to economic chaos.
"The Virtue of Selfishness"
I love Elton John. Always did. Always will.
In the lower grades I recall we had the SRA materials, which were phoneme based instead of whole language and color coded, which I remember liking.
*yawn*HICA!
Nice nap I had, there.
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Anybody else learn reading first with "I.T.A.?"
In my second year of teaching, I had the first class of students that had been exposed to the I.T.A. A more confused group of kids I never saw. It was sad. They were bright enough, but their spelling was atrocious. The district didn't stay with it for long, but ditched it too late for those kids.
How old are you?
We all fucking learned to read.
Old enough to have better manners and apparently know more than you do as you protest much too much.
"And you can tell Rolling Stone Magazine, my last words were.....I'm on Drugs!"
Gilly Gonzylon
I like Jason Lee';s commentary on the article, wnere he says "I look like a buffooN" that one cracks me up
While We're On My Genius Predictions
You're like the Miss Cleo of the nutroots.
It's the way workers are treated in corporate land. Completely interchangeable, and completely disposable. The oddity to this is that the cost of acquiring a new employee is horrific - but there is no particular effort to retain them.
Yep, it sucks.
We take a different approach in my office- the learning curve is just too high and I don't have time to fucking retrain people. Or the energy.
Thus, we new young minion looked like she might not survive her probation, instead of firing her (as stupid immediate boss wanted to), I intervened and kicked her young butt into shape and saved her.
Was worth it.
I love Elton John. Always did. Always will.
I'm listening to the Elton John CD right now. An oldie but goodie.
I was a late reader, probably related to speech problems as a youngster. Then in forth grade I had a teacher who did nothing but get us to read. Talked about it to the exclusion of everything else. Maintained a classroom library and let us bring our books from home. My reading level shot up several grades and after sixth grade I never needed to take a reading test again. This was back in the fifties.
This year, NYC has instituted a curriculum where every class in each grade must be in the same place at the same time. No room at all for brighter kids to move more quickly. Fucking insane.
It should never be forgotten that the super rich DON’T like a stable economy.
They make much more money in terms of crises. After all in 1929 many of the rich could not see what the problem was.
I had an odd English teacher in the first grade where English was taught. She wrote everything with those linguistic pronounciation symbols. It's handy to this day because I can read them. But it meant having to learn the actual spelling of the words later all over again.
My love for Elton John took a hiatus in the 90s when his new songs started getting sappy. But all the old stuff is still amazing.
Old enough to have better manners and apparently know more than you do as you protest much too much.
Oh, fuck off.
If you weren't there you can't tell me what I experienced.
I think education today is way more fucked up than it was in the 60's.
I think education today is way more fucked up than it was in the 60's.
Absolutely true.
After a fairly decent introduction to phonics in pre-school, my son just started reading one day while playing a video game (one of the role-playing games where they have a lot of dialogue boxes). He was about 5 and a half. By the time they tested him at the end of kindergarten, he was reading at a 9th grade level. He's getting ready to start the 9th grade now and is reading at the college level. He also has an almost photographic memory of what he has read. It still amazes me.
He also has an almost photographic memory of what he has read. It still amazes me.
Lucky kid.
I didn't tell you what you experienced. I told you what I experienced?? You really discombobulated that around, didn't you?
Captain Sensible was responsible for lending to the sub prime market in the US. Don’t know what to make of it, but it sounds very odd.
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triple oy
This year, NYC has instituted a curriculum where every class in each grade must be in the same place at the same time. No room at all for brighter kids to move more quickly. Fucking insane.
That is stupid. When I was in third grade my teacher did a contest with prizes for who ever read the most books that year. (And basically everyone eventually got SOME kind of prize so that everyone was encouraged.)
It inspired my life long love of libraries and reading.
Echidne, may I be so forward as to ask what your first language was (is)?
This year, NYC has instituted a curriculum where every class in each grade must be in the same place at the same time.
That doesn't even make sense in training rats or birds on operant tasks. It's called yoked learning and it induces things like learned helplessness.
I think education today is way more fucked up than it was in the 60's.
The NYC schools were excellent in the sixties. Even the ones in "bad" neighborhoods.
Glenn Greewald is on c-span 2 now. started 10 min. ago.
I remember when a fifty cent candy bar only cost fifty cents.
I didn't tell you what you experienced. I told you what I experienced?? You really discombobulated that around, didn't you?
Nope, you made a blanket statement about what happened in US schools in the 60's.
He also has an almost photographic memory of what he has read. It still amazes me.
My grandmother used to say things like, "I had to work to learn bars 150 through 170 of that Chopin piece. It was on page 32 of the Schirmer edition. I can see it now."
This year, NYC has instituted a curriculum where every class in each grade must be in the same place at the same time. No room at all for brighter kids to move more quickly. Fucking insane.
Though it has been a while, I think we had reading time with the SRA stuff and you were allowed to go at your own pace. That always worked great for me as I seemed to go faster than most of my classmates. I think we had little competitions (amongst ourselves) to see who could go farther on a given day.
Later we had to memorize lists of things like prepositions and helping verbs. Geez, I remember some of my nerdy friends and I also used to compete to see who could say the lists faster. The upside is that decades later I can still do them, like multiplication tables.
That doesn't even make sense in training rats or birds on operant tasks. It's called yoked learning and it induces things like learned helplessness.
spinoza
I think they actually initiated the program last year or the year before. Supposedly it is because there are so many transient students, this way they will never be behind or ahead. As I said before, fucking stupid.
Echidne, may I be so forward as to ask what your first language was (is)?
Finnish, right after parseltongue.
I never learned to read; I just seemed to know how, at age 3. Mom always theorized that it was from watching commercials, as I started out reading billboards. And when I started doing that, they'd point out other stuff, and saying, "What's that say?" and I'd read it for them.
Bizarre.
.
My grandmother used to say things like, "I had to work to learn bars 150 through 170 of that Chopin piece. It was on page 32 of the Schirmer edition. I can see it now."
A lot of us musicians can remember, if not the page number, whether a certain passage is on the left or right page, and where on the page (top, middle, bottom) too. It's weird but not uncommon.
Captain sensible apparently is a 33 year old trader in London who has gone missing.
This has sparked worries that he is another Nick Leason who brought down Bearings Bank in the 90s.
What the fuck happened to Michigan?
NYC has instituted a curriculum where every class in each grade must be in the same place at the same time
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trying to get a handle on NCLB probably
we have administrators saying that they need the exceptional kids in the normal classrooms to help teach the other kids. Without gifted programs, fuck us all.
Everyone has special talents. Don't squelch on god's gifting by averaging everyone out. To the singers - let them sing. To the runner - let them run. To the mathmaticians - let them figure. To the healers - let them doctor...you get the drift.
/Howard Gardner paraphrased
Though it has been a while, I think we had reading time with the SRA stuff and you were allowed to go at your own pace. That always worked great for me as I seemed to go faster than most of my classmates. I think we had little competitions (amongst ourselves) to see who could go farther on a given day.
Yes. I actually liked the SRS stuff- the stories were interesting and you could work at your own pace. And the reading comprehension questions were good as well.
By the time I got to 7th grade I was reading at a 12th grade level.
And the first time I took the SAT I scored a 700 on the verbal. WIthout any prep work.
(math was a different story)
"Nope, you made a blanket statement about what happened in US schools in the 60's."
I surely did and it did and since I taught in five different states I had a fair idea what was going on plus reading the professional journals and putting up with the crap in the service meetings and grad school helped a fair bit. What is your problem, lady?
peace and humptiness forever
They were bright enough, but their spelling was atrocious. The district didn't stay with it for long, but ditched it too late for those kids.
pie | 09.01.07 - 4:41 pm | #
pie,
so what/where do you teach?
What the fuck happened to Michigan?
Oy. I really like and respect Lloys Carr, but this morning the paper said that this could be his last year. If the season goes like this, it very well could be.
Michigan fans do NOT like to lose (not uncommon, I realize).
Since I am cranky and snippy, I am going to go away now.
Possibly to have a delicious sammich or something.
I can still do them, like multiplication tables.
JeffCO
Yup. My older girl's teachers never thought memorizing stuff was important and to this day she has trouble with math facts (she's off to med school next year and I worry, ), however, she was involved with a theater group from 7 till she went off to college so she learned to memorize scripts and lyrics. Thank goodness.
Everyone has special talents.
I can jerk off while standing on my head. I'm kinda proud of that.
Echidne, thank you, I have often wondered about that.
I am a big fan of your blog, btw. Keep up the excellent work.
(math was a different story)
That's the flip side to my son's story, too. He came close to flunking 8th grade math. A lot of the problem was that he had issues with the math teacher. Hated the man. And I must admit, I didn't much care for him either.
so what/where do you teach?
I taught seventh and then eighth grade Englsi in a mid-sized school district in western New York for ten years. I loved it. But we moved to Cleveland, and that was the end of that, although I volunteered a ton in my daughters' classes.
I have a fifteen year mortgage at 5%. I must be a fucking idiot for all the money I've wasted. (obviously, dripping with sarcasm)
I worked as a tester on a reading project for a while - one thing that never failed was that the kids who had been taught using the whole language approach fell apart with unfamiliar stuff, especially the ones who clearly were used to doing well. As for tasks involving nonsense words - forget it. A kid who learned phonetic rules usually could figure out the syntactic rules.
What is your problem, lady?
Fight Povert
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s'ok
Atriots are a feisty bunch
ride with it
Lime Rickey for president!!
Yup. My older girl's teachers never thought memorizing stuff was important and to this day she has trouble with math facts (she's off to med school next year and I worry,
The only math stuff I had to memorize was the multiplication tables. I wish someone would have sat on me and made me work harder.
But to this day I can recite the first few paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence. They made us memorize it in 7th grade, and I'm glad they did.
By the time I got to 7th grade I was reading at a 12th grade level.
And the first time I took the SAT I scored a 700 on the verbal. WIthout any prep work.
(math was a different story)
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 4:51 pm
by the time i got to 12th grade, i was reading at the 7th grade level.
A lot of us musicians can remember, if not the page number, whether a certain passage is on the left or right page, and where on the page (top, middle, bottom) too. It's weird but not uncommon.
Marcellina
Visual memory - I have it too. Would you care to know which side and part of the page I found the key bit of information concerning the relationship between Richard Steel and Secy. Steel-Maitland, in the DNB?
I have a fifteen year mortgage at 5%. I must be a fucking idiot for all the money I've wasted.
Oh, lucky you. I'm always glad to hear that there are people out there with sense. Bravo.
am are is was were have has had do does did can could will would shall should may might must be been
by the time i got to 12th grade, i was reading at the 7th grade level.
Alcohol will do that to ya.
Michigan fans do NOT like to lose (not uncommon, I realize).
pie
2 FG's blocked in the 4th quarter or they win.
by the time i got to 12th grade, i was reading at the 7th grade level.
What level are you at now?
Notre Dame currently sucking donkey dick too losing 9-0 to Ga Tech.
Everyone has special talents.
I can jerk off while standing on my head. I'm kinda proud of that.
Lime Rickey
I thought you stood on NTodd's head when you jerked off.
By the time I got to 7th grade I was reading at a 12th grade level.
Isn't the important thing just learning to read? Who cares about reading level so long as you understand what it is you're reading?
I was never told what reading level I was on. It never mattered.
am are is was were have has had do does did can could will would shall should may might must be been
Good old helping verbs!
Visual memory - I have it too. Would you care to know which side and part of the page I found the key bit of information concerning the relationship between Richard Steel and Secy. Steel-Maitland, in the DNB?
I have a fair amount, but not photographic.
by the time i got to 12th grade, i was reading at the 7th grade level.
What level are you at now?
He is unable to reply because he can't read your comment.
2 FG's blocked in the 4th quarter or they win.
Two? I saw they missed one at the end of the game.
Ouch.
I assume that you checked off this box on the forms?
Nancy Willing
No, of course not. Keep in mind that AZ is a 'right to work state' which is precisely defined as "your job can be changed out of all recognition and you have no recourse."
Lime Rickey for president!!
Fight Poverty
I'll be waiting on the porch.
Isn't the important thing just learning to read? Who cares about reading level so long as you understand what it is you're reading?
I was never told what reading level I was on. It never mattered.
Well, no, the important thing is how well you're comprehending what you are reading, and what amount of difficulty in reading material you can handle.
Reading ability (reading comprehension) has a huge impact on how well a kid will do at college.
In fact, I'm willing to bet that DWD is very much like my fourth grade teacher.
Older girl got 800 on verbal without a prep class, not so good in math. Younger kid 760 verbal and 690 math, no prep.
TD Badgers!
21-14!
I know most of you don't care
He is unable to reply because he can't read your comment.
That's what I suspected.
about above across after against along among around at before behind below beneath beside between beyond but by concerning down during except for from in into over since through to toward up upon with within without
I may have missed a few in the middle - primacy and recency.
AZ is a 'right to work state' which is precisely defined as "your job can be changed out of all recognition and you have no recourse."
GWPDA,
*
DE also is a 'right to work state'. I just could not conceptualize where your state got from A to Z!
Es Hora Feliz.
Adios.
TN is an "at will" state. You can be fired for having the wrong bumper sticker on your scooter (or for riding a scooter).
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bevi bene Lime
Older girl got 800 on verbal without a prep class, not so good in math. Younger kid 760 verbal and 690 math, no prep.
I always wondered how well I'd have done with a little prep.
As it was, in the mid 70's, my 1250 scores were good enough to get me into just about everywhere (that I could afford) so I only took the SATs once.
And I was about 300-400 points above most of my classmates. Which I thought was weird.
These days that 1250 is merely average.
I may have missed a few in the middle - primacy and recency.
Fucking Ebbinghaus!
Visual memory - I have it too. Would you care to know which side and part of the page I found the key bit of information concerning the relationship between Richard Steel and Secy. Steel-Maitland, in the DNB?
GWPDA
My training on how to train was based on the notion that there are threee distinct learning styles.
There are the "visual people" - if they see it written down, they've learned it.
There are "aural people" - they have problems with writing and graphs, but if (for example) you describe a diagram or music score, they've learned it.
The last category are people who learn best by doing - experiencing it themselves.
So a good class will have a combination of lecture, handouts, and practice.
JP - I thought you were scooting to see SP today.
be been
being
But to this day I can recite the first few paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence. They made us memorize it in 7th grade
Thanks to Schoolhouse Rock I can only sing the Preamble to the Constitution.
Reading ability (reading comprehension) has a huge impact on how well a kid will do at college.
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I am a comprehension genius who can't spell for shit and hated grammar so ignored it.
I am pilloried mercilessly for it by the GOPerfucks in my local blogosphere, those anal-retentive nit-picking whackjobs!
Oh, and speaking of "at will," gotta plug another faculty members' book...
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This brings back memories. The night before those national Achievement Exams was prom night. My ex went with someone else, my parents were out, my best friend away on some church trip, and so I got rip roaring drunk (and sick) for the first time in my life, on Southern Comfort. Took the test the next day with a massive hangover. Didn't do so badly. A month or so later I took it again, sober and prepared, and got a lower score. Go figure.
i'm a bilingual illiterate.
i can't read or write in 2 different languages...
Thanks to Schoolhouse Rock I can only sing the Preamble to the Constitution.
JeffCO
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my dearest friend is in his mid-thirties and has often said this.
Me? I am too old even for Sesame Street.
"What the fuck happened to Michigan?
Gomez "
they fucking SUCK????
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks to Schoolhouse Rock I can only sing the Preamble to the Constitution.
JeffCO | 09.01.07 - 5:04 pm | #
School House ROck was after my time.
ql: JP - I thought you were scooting to see SP today.
No; the weather predictions were too iffy. It's gonna have to be a 4-day thang... it's gonna take most of a day on either end for travel and recoup. So, I'm gonna take a Friday and a Monday off, breaking it so that I only lose one day out of two pay periods.
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i can't read or write in 2 different languages...
My sister maintains that during my first couple of years in Austria, my English went down the tubes.
And I was about 300-400 points above most of my classmates. Which I thought was weird.
At 1450 my younger girl had the highest SAT scores her school had seen in over thirty years. Her high school years should have been a breeze for me as her parent, but alas, she refused to do any homework at all. Her math teacher explained that even though she was in the accelerated class, she always understood the concept before the words were out of her teacher's mouth and then had to wait a week or two for the other kids to catch up. Always got a hundred on every test. Still, because she never did homework, she only got 80 on her report cards. She skipped the last year of high school since she only had two electives left to take and went to college. Best thing that ever happened to her.
I have a fair amount, but not photographic.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork
Oh noes! Not in any sense photographic - I can't tell you the text (the sense tho), but I can literally visualise every element of the discovery. The page, where I was standing, the floor beneath me, the book binding, what pencil I was holding - and exactly where on the page the information was. It's the same way that I can, pretty effortlessly, match colors when one is at home in the closet and the other is in the store. As for actual memory, mine was so significantly impaired by all my years of undertreated hypothyroidism my endocrinologist seriously wondered how the hell I ever got thru phd school.
i can't read or write in 2 different languages...
Actually, I firmly beleive that learning a second language totally enhances any knowledge of the first.
It annoys me to no end that kids have to learn the grammatical rules when they take a foreign language, but many schools no longer teach English grammar as a specific discipline.
believe. My e finger is trigger happy these days.
marcellina, mwah.
I finally figured out what a preposition was my sophomore year of high school sitting in my parents' basement with a big bong and giggling uncontrollably at Grover singing "around, around, around, and over, and under, and through...."
I'm something of an autodidact, really.
Ugh, the testicle-crushing analogy.
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Took the test the next day with a massive hangover. Didn't do so badly. A month or so later I took it again, sober and prepared, and got a lower score. Go figure.
Marcellina
I believe that is known as the Dr. Johnny Fever effect.
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Education talk makes me depressed.
I'm something of an autodidact, really.
Jim
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thanks for that~
funniest image of the day
I believe that is known as the Dr. Johnny Fever effect.
God I loved that show.
Education talk makes me depressed.
me too.
Go figure.
Marcellina | 09.01.07 - 5:05 pm | #
where are you located and what is your musical talent??
smallfish - why?
BTW - I have no idea what my SAT scores were. Probably excellent in verbal and really, really sucky in math. I never expected to go to college and, indeed, didn't finally get my degree till I was 41.
I finally figured out what a preposition was my sophomore year
Schoolchildren in Idaho are learning what a proposition is this week.
God I loved that show.
What in heck happened to quality sitcoms?
"Took the test the next day with a massive hangover. Didn't do so badly. A month or so later I took it again, sober and prepared, and got a lower score. Go figure.
Marcellina"
didn't take the sat's, but rather the act's. sat outside the high school the moring of the test getting stoned with a friend. can't remember what the score was but can recall it was in the 90+ percentile, while my friend bombed and had to retake.
...leads to learned helplessness
Which goes a long way to explaining the Reid/Pelosi Congress.
You know, Atrios, I have to thank you for your alarmism. Really. I was a renter until 2006, and when I went to open houses to check out the housing market, a few of the realtors would have reps from the mortgage lenders there, pushing the 5/1 ARMs as a way of showing you how you could afford the payments. But thanks to you (and another alarmist friend predicting a housing crash), I resisted and waited till I found a house we could just barely afford payments on a 30-year fixed mortgage.
So keep predicting.
"Figure eight
is double four
figure four
is half of eight
if you skate
it would be great
if you could make
a figure eight
that's a circle that goes
'round upon itself"
smallfish - why?
My education was extremely poor.
But the beltway media, by and large, LOVED Greenspan (particularly an MSNBC "journalist"). He could do no wrong.
Once again, their groupthink hurt America.
I bought a Febreeze candle at Target, earlier. I feel like such a consumer.
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test
didn't take the sat's, but rather the act's. sat outside the high school the moring of the test getting stoned with a friend. can't remember what the score was but can recall it was in the 90+ percentile, while my friend bombed and had to retake.
jdw
I got a 30, which was pretty high back then.
hey my gravatar came back
Oh! And I shot some new cat wrasslin' video this morning, y'know.
.
What in heck happened to quality sitcoms?
Republicans.*
Remember when Dan Quayle cited Murphy Brown as a bad role model?
* by Republicans, I mean people who are afraid to see their positions challenged or to have someone poke fun at their positions. They're a humorless bunch of shitwhistles.
No one could have predicted that Greenspan, the bankers' banker, would talk Americans into taking adjustable rate mortgages during record low interest rates.
Also no one could have predicted that Greenspan, a life-long Republican, would lower interest rates to help Bush's election chances.
TD Badgers!
28-14!!!
I'm delighted to report that the house across the street, that the pushing little yuppies bought with the hope of 'flipping', two years ago, has been rented. Seem like a nice little family too. I hated having it empty - a very bad thing for my street. But there it is - unable to sell the thing because they overestimated the market, dragging on everybody else's property values, its inflated sales price inflating everybody else's taxes.... A little lesson of its own.
Stewie!
where are you located and what is your musical talent??
Innsbruck, classical singer. (It's not as glam as it sounds.)
So, I'll have some coffee, and sit here.
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Schoolchildren in Idaho are learning what a proposition is this week.
They will know how to pre position themselves better in life.
What did zero say to the figure eight?
"Nice belt."
Hello moonbats
my parents encouraged me to read, so when I entered pre-school my skills were quite good
my niece according to a assessment from a health checkup from the local nurse has well developed skills, over her age or something like that
they wish they had worked on my maths a lot more, as I am rubbish at the subject (thank god for the calculator on mobile phones :lol
Glenzilla is on cspan 2.
what's the IQ level to get into mensa?
"I got a 30, which was pretty high back then."
yeah, i remember that the scoring on that thing was strange...20's and 30's and the like.
a college recruiter saw the score, looked at my grades and said, 'you seem fairly smart, but don't like to study'.
and btw, michigan still sucks.
how did that happen to my name?
Moon, are you up to your eyeballs in Diana Remembered?
what's the IQ level to get into mensa?
fokowi at lake cabin
150 but I refuse to belong to a club that would have me as a member.
Wasn't there a Terry Gilliam animation featuring this guy?
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Well, BBQ's been put off till tomorrow. Now I can screw around some more.
Chimpy's plans --
But in an interview with a book author in the Oval Office one day last December, he daydreamed about the next phase of his life, when his time will be his own.
First, Mr. Bush said, “I’ll give some speeches, just to replenish the ol’ coffers.” With assets that have been estimated as high as nearly $21 million, Mr. Bush added, “I don’t know what my dad gets — it’s more than 50-75” thousand dollars a speech, and “Clinton’s making a lot of money.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/0...ton/
02book.html
I think it helps when parents offer support and show interest, schools can only do so much.
and these days it seems teachers have to be enforcers, administrators, social workers and so on
and its shocking how basic skills in seven year olds has declined and how they are turning out when they hit puberty
perhaps i'm sounding old I jest, guess youth today puzzles me
132
what's the IQ level to get into mensa?
I think you have to be so smart you're stupid -- or at least you have no social skills. Most mensa members I've met give me the creeps.
There are many morons in mensa as well as doctors...every field and group has dipshits.
But you all already knew that.
Hell, I'm a dipshit dropout.
"what's the IQ level to get into mensa?"
from the internets: "There's no magic score to aim for here. Because there are so many different and incomparable intelligence tests out there that measure along varying scales, a score of 145 on one may be a 134 on another. To avoid the confusion that would result from setting a minimum score, Mensa instead requires that candidates finish in the 98th percentile of whatever test they take, meaning that their score is better than 98% of the others who took it."
Moon, are you up to your eyeballs in Diana Remembered?
Marcellina | 09.01.07 - 5:22 pm | #
yeah, it sucks
i mean i don't fucking care about a dim sloane who married into a fucked up institution
First, Mr. Bush said, “I’ll give some speeches, just to replenish the ol’ coffers.” With assets that have been estimated as high as nearly $21 million, Mr. Bush added....
Good lord.
Moon, darling, tolerance is a virtue for very good reasons.
what's the IQ level to get into mensa?
If you are in Mensa and get alzheimers, do they kick you out, because that would be some sort of Mensapause.
Here's how you get away from Diana Remembered: Watch a lot of sports.
Chimpy cries
In response to Mr. Draper’s observance that Mr. Bush had nobody’s “shoulder to cry on,” the president said: “Of course I do, I’ve got God’s shoulder to cry on, and I cry a lot.” In what Mr. Draper interpreted as a reference to war casualties, Mr. Bush added, “I’ll bet I’ve shed more tears than you can count as president.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/0...ton/
02book.html
Funny, the word Mensa is the German word for cafeteria.
ah, never mind...it's some repug dork lawyer spouting off.
Then he said, “We’ll have a nice place in Dallas,” where he will be running what he called “a fantastic Freedom Institute” promoting democracy around the world. But he added, “I can just envision getting in the car, getting bored, going down to the ranch.”
speaking of 'KRP (and we were, earlier) Bush talking about 'freedom' is like Herb Tarlek giving fashion advice, and Les Nessman talking about himself as the heir to Edward R Murrow.
But he's the president of my country.
he'll get bored by his attempts to spread democracy around the world.... I think he just admitted something and doesn't know it.
The Decider is not sure who did the decidin'
Mr. Bush acknowledged one major failing of the early occupation of Iraq when he said of disbanding the Saddam Hussein-era military, “The policy was to keep the army intact; didn’t happen.”
But when Mr. Draper pointed out that Mr. Bush’s former Iraq administrator, L. Paul Bremer III, had gone ahead and forced the army’s dissolution and then asked Mr. Bush how he reacted to that, Mr. Bush said, “Yeah, I can’t remember, I’m sure I said, ‘This is the policy, what happened?’ ” But, he added, “Again, Hadley’s got notes on all of this stuff,” referring to Stephen J. Hadley, his national security adviser.
Here's how you get away from Diana Remembered: Watch a lot of sports.
smitty w, popping squibs | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 5:26 pm | #
I watched films, first Time Bandits and after that on Flim 4 Cleopatra (1963)
then I headed to my town's local carnival and met up with an old friend
and this evening watching the US Open
Funny, the word Mensa is the German word for cafeteria.
Marcellina
Latin for table, IIRC
Moon, darling, tolerance is a virtue for very good reasons.
Indeed.
Well said.
BBL.
The term Sloane Ranger (often pluralised to just Sloanes or Sloanies) originally referred to the young upper- and upper-middle-class men and women living in West London. The term is a word play combining "Sloane Square", the fashionable and wealthy area of London most associated in the public imagination with Sloanes, and the TV character "The Lone Ranger".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slo...i/
Sloane_Ranger
Well, now we know what happens if a frat boy takes charge of the world.
Diana Remembered: Watch a lot of sports.
Do the sports include footage of Diana's "horseback" lessons?
I need some kind of pill
For now, though, Mr. Bush told the author, Robert Draper, in a later session, “I’m playing for October-November.” That is when he hopes the Iraq troop increase will finally show enough results to help him achieve the central goal of his remaining time in office: “To get us in a position where the presidential candidates will be comfortable about sustaining a presence,” and, he said later, “stay longer.”
Mensapause diapers sold here!
I think that the cutoff IQ is 132
“To get us in a position where the presidential candidates will be comfortable about sustaining a presence,” and, he said later, “stay longer.”
He really is a first class asshole.
I was looking at When September Ends on YouTube yesterday. One of the comments about the video said that "the Iraqis don't have any mortars, so where were the small explosions coming from."
Oy.
It's astonishingly troll-free here right now.
I thought the whole point of the IQ scale was that is was supposed to be the X axis of a normal distribution of scores, i.e. that it measures where you are statistically with respect to average. AIUI, the stdev. is always 15, so the same score should mean the same thing regardless of the test.
In response to Mr. Draper’s observance that Mr. Bush had nobody’s “shoulder to cry on,” the president said: “Of course I do, I’ve got God’s shoulder to cry on, and I cry a lot.”
God: What a pussy.
by the time i got to 12th grade, i was reading at the 7th grade level.
What level are you at now?
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 4:57 pm | #
fourlegs.
exactly at following level...
from the internets: "There's no magic score to aim for here. Because there are so many different and incomparable intelligence tests out there that measure along varying scales, a score of 145 on one may be a 134 on another. To avoid the confusion that would result from setting a minimum score, Mensa instead requires that candidates finish in the 98th percentile of whatever test they take, meaning that their score is better than 98% of the others who took it."
jdw | Homepage
What fun - in xeroxing a bunch of paper for a colleague, I ran across the HBC note as to their final profit out of their involvement in one element of WWI (1920): L 104,738,116.14.0 . Way to go HBC!
Can't Remember His Own Damn War!!!
Mr. Bush acknowledged one major failing of the early occupation of Iraq when he said of disbanding the Saddam Hussein-era military, “The policy was to keep the army intact; didn’t happen.”
But when Mr. Draper pointed out that Mr. Bush’s former Iraq administrator, L. Paul Bremer III, had gone ahead and forced the army’s dissolution and then asked Mr. Bush how he reacted to that, Mr. Bush said, “Yeah, I can’t remember, I’m sure I said, ‘This is the policy, what happened?’ ” But, he added, “Again, Hadley’s got notes on all of this stuff,” referring to Stephen J. Hadley, his national security adviser.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/0...pagewanted=2&
hp
why did i think he knew anything about what happens?
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do IQ tests really give a good indicator of how smart a person is?
cause it seems pretty narrow to me
Further evidence that it only sensible strategy in Iraq is GTFU.
"The situation's all fucked up and we haven't a clue how to solve it, so we're recommending umpiring, General Petraeus, but whatever we do, give it another Freidman and it's sure to work."
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... The Aug. 15 briefing, titled "Resolving the Conflict in Iraq: An Alternative Peacemaking Strategy," offers an unusual glimpse into the debate within the U.S. military over the way forward in Iraq, and comes just days before Petraeus, the top U.S. commander there, is scheduled to testify before Congress on the progress of President Bush's war strategy.
It also reveals how military officers in Iraq are wrestling with how to define the conflict - whether a counterinsurgency, civil war or some combination of several contests. ...
"Rather than conducting a counterinsurgency that supports a sectarian driven Iraqi government, the coalition should focus all elements of power on activities that facilitate a long-term peace or we risk becoming/remaining a part of the civil war," the briefing stated. ...
The authors argue that a shift in strategy on the ground could help forge a new consensus on Iraq in Washington: "The peacemaking process should be well underway by January 2008 or we may find that we have tactically created the space and time necessary but there has been insufficient progress towards reconciliation and reintegration - resulting in a total collapse of political support in both the domestic public and the U.S. Congress."
The briefing calls for a shift to a strategy of peace enforcement that would emphasize "balanced targeting" of fighters from all sects and protecting the population from "any and all threats," including, if necessary, Iraqi security forces. It describes the Iraqi local and national police as sectarian and untrustworthy forces that need overhauling or disbanding.
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Gaaaaahhhh!
We don't know who the enemy is. We don't trust any of them, so we will kill anybody that's bad until they become good.
It's astonishingly troll-free here right now.
Marcellina
BTW, I almost never lurk and certainly not to hide from mimi.
why did i think he knew anything about what happens?
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Tacitus Voltaire
A few months ago Paul Wolforitz, of the spitcomb, admitted he doesn't follow the news out of Iraq. He has other things on his mind.
Motherfucker.
Sitting in an anteroom of the Oval Office, he eschewed the more formal White House menu for comfort food — a low-fat hotdog and ice cream — and bitingly told an aide who peeked in on the session that his time with Mr. Draper was “worthless anyway.”
hostile, paranoid, insecure arrested adolscent.
Jesus. This is one of the most depressing articles I've read in a long time. Fucker's stark staring nuts
I just have so little to say, today. All empty vessel. Fill me with liquid, and pong my side with a stick!
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"There's no magic score to aim for here. Because there are so many different and incomparable intelligence tests out there that measure along varying scales, a score of 145 on one may be a 134 on another. To avoid the confusion that would result from setting a minimum score, Mensa instead requires that candidates finish in the 98th percentile of whatever test they take, meaning that their score is better than 98% of the others who took it."
So on a correctly calibrated IQ scale, that would work out to around 140.
Our president is a raving lunatic.
What did we do to deserve this?
I walk away for two minutes and come back to find published Bushscrum. Saturday is not sacred.
Yer saturday caturday photos:
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...y-
caturday.html
It should never be forgotten that the super rich DON’T like a stable economy.
They make much more money in terms of crises. After all in 1929 many of the rich could not see what the problem was.
sally
They run the economy like that Utah mine owner ran his coal mine. They know it will colapse at some point but not on them.
do IQ tests really give a good indicator of how smart a person is?
cause it seems pretty narrow to me - Moonbootica
The aptitude and intelligence tests I've taken in my life-time have demonstrated conclusively that I have and aptitude for testing, as long as it doesn't involve spatial relationships.
I thought the whole point of the IQ scale was that is was supposed to be the X axis of a normal distribution of scores, i.e. that it measures where you are statistically with respect to average. AIUI, the stdev. is always 15, so the same score should mean the same thing regardless of the test.
That's what they want you to believe. But there are a number of odd things spelled out by SJ Gould in his "Mismeasurement of Man". For example, there is the Flynn Effect, an average rise of IQs throughout the world. This means IQs are renormalized every few years. A normal (IQ=100) child in 1932 taking a modern IQ test would probably score around 80.
Intelligence testing, next to eugenics, is some of the worst of psychology. And it has led to that rat ass bastard's fucking NCLB fucking waste of time.
Shorter Chimpy: Wha happened?
BTW, I almost never lurk and certainly not to hide from mimi.
Agh! I had a good laugh then, though! Now it appears I am on the evil shit list too, for retelling it. Tja!
What did we do to deserve this?
mer
I pissed off God when I read the Bible on the toilet.
fumigation of the turds thread.
or fumigated your turd.
fyt.
yeah, we're partying here in sconi.
i'm irish/german and live in WI. what would ya expect?
He's been reading up on Harry Truman lately....
Mr. Bush conveyed a level of sanguinity with his unpopularity. Mr. Draper recalled that in their last meeting, in May, Mr. Bush pointed outside to his dog, Barney, and said, “That guy who said if you want a friend in Washington get a dog, knew what he was talking about.”
It's astonishingly troll-free here right now.
Marcellina | 09.01.07 - 5:31 pm
i mentioned the word mensa. must be like a super scary word to them.
What did we do to deserve this?
mer
We didn't go Ukrainian when the Chimp and the Supremes "fixed" the outcome.
It's the UN's fault we're in Iraq
Mr. Bush said he believed that Mr. Hussein did not take his threats of war seriously, suggesting that the United Nations emboldened him by failing to follow up on an initial resolution demanding that Iraq disarm. He had sought a second measure containing an ultimatum that failure to comply would result in war.
“One interesting question historians are going to have to answer is: Would Saddam have behaved differently if he hadn’t gotten mixed signals between the first resolution and the failure of the second resolution?” Mr. Bush said. “I can’t answer that question. I was hopeful that diplomacy would work.”
Again, Hadley’s got notes on all of this stuff,”
Yeah, he's been real engaged in all of the decidering.
“I can’t answer that question. I was hopeful that diplomacy would work.”
You're a lying asshat.
Now it appears I am on the evil shit list too, for retelling it. Tja!
Marcellina
Heh. Welcome to the club. May I offer you a complimentary cocktail or glass of wine. 
i mentioned the word mensa
We could just start into the food stuff then.
Followed by poetry, and such.
“One interesting question historians are going to have to answer is: Would Saddam have behaved differently if he hadn’t gotten mixed signals between the first resolution and the failure of the second resolution?” Mr. Bush said. “I can’t answer that question. I was hopeful that diplomacy would work.”
What a fucking incompetent.
Standardized tests like the WAIS for IQ have a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. The Z score for the 98th percentile is roughly 2.06. So the IQ corresponding to the 98th percentile would be
100 + 2.06(15) = 130.9.
Now it appears I am on the evil shit list too, for retelling it. Tja!
Well, I guess your little meet-up is kaput!
It should never be forgotten that the super rich DON’T like a stable economy.
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FUCK THAT
the super rich deliberately destabilize so they can bump up hump up and scoop up the snaggles on the low end.
Look at the Bush l "recession" snagglers riding the windfalls.
I expected the same at the nadir of Bushie ll's White House encampment and was not disappointed. Sure enough. Wealth recouped a fucking mint this week.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070829/w...reet.html?
.v=31
D'OH
"Stocks rebounded sharply Wednesday as investors, growing more optimistic about chances for an interest rate cut, sought bargains after the previous session's huge tumble. "
I can’t answer that question. I was hopeful that diplomacy would work.”
When you start lying to yourself you need to get to steppin'.
Why would Bush give an interview now? Those excerpts you guys are quoting are devestating.
Well, I guess your little meet-up is kaput!
You must be heartbroken?
“I can’t answer that question. I was hopeful that diplomacy would work.”
Yeah you send 200,000 troops halfway around the world waiting for diplomacy to work.
Standardized tests like the WAIS for IQ have a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. The Z score for the 98th percentile is roughly 2.06. So the IQ corresponding to the 98th percentile would be
100 + 2.06(15) = 130.9.
JeffCO | 09.01.07 - 5:40 pm | #
Okay, now you're just showing off.
Oh god, pie, I was trying to be diplomatic for TheaLogie's sake, who suggested it.
He fucking never employed diplomacy
BITCH
I was hopeful that diplomacy would work.”
Words fail me.....
....except for "fucking liar!"
You poor slob:
“Self-pity is the worst thing that can happen to a presidency,” Mr. Bush told Mr. Draper, by way of saying he sought to avoid it. “This is a job where you can have a lot of self-pity.”
What a self-centered prick.
I was trying to be diplomatic for TheaLogie's sake, who suggested it.
Why would she suggest it? Mimi has, um, issues.
Patrick McHenry, that sanctimonious North Carolina repug prig, may be the next Larry Craig:
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot....pocrite-
to.html
Apparently there is a new Bionic Woman.
Will Lil Bush's comments in the NY Times be brought up by George Will or Cokie Roberts or anyone tomorrow morning?
Of course not - what an f-ing sheltered, male-cheerleader prick.
He fucking never employed diplomacy
He tried for months to get Hussein to let the inspectors from the UN. But Hussein refused.
Hmmmm. Something seems wrong with what I wrote but I can't seem to pinpoint it.
Oh, fuck me.
Mike Allen on CNN says Mark Warner has an advantage in the 2008 VA Senate race because so many people will think they're voting for John Warner.
Like he wasn't elected Governor in his own right and lost the Senate race to Macaca in '96.
Pissant.
Why would Bush give an interview now? Those excerpts you guys are quoting are devestating.
mer |
You just couldn't make up the shit dribbling out of his mouth. It's like the cliché movie villain who takes time out to explain point by point everything he did before shooting the cop he has at gunpoint... only Bush is too dumb to know how stupid he looks. He'll read that article and think "Yeah, ah lookt strong an' confident and resolute"
Okay, now you're just showing off.
ql-was in NY *
that puts me back in the running! I was taken aside in high school during a scary trip to the counseling office where a person showed me my IQ and reiterated what my dad was spouting at the time.....
you have the genes Nancy - dad
you have the potential - HS councilar
My IQ was set somewhere, what, in grade school???????? at 132.
The Z score for the 98th percentile is roughly 2.06. So the IQ corresponding to the 98th percentile would be
100 + 2.06(15) = 130.9.
I seem to have miscalculated. Oops. I guss the +/- 1 sigma = 66% only holds for the first sigma.
Most mensa members I've met give me the creeps.
Oddly enough, I'm a physicist whose been hanging around with lots of very smart people over the last two decades, and I've never actually met anyone who has identified themself as a mensa member.
“Sixty-two is really young,” Mr. Bush said, “and yet I’ll be through with my presidency.”
As the world breathes a sigh of relief and grownups are left to pick up the pieces of your failed presidency.
Hmmmm. Something seems wrong with what I wrote but I can't seem to pinpoint it.
Snow, Liberal
Is it something like the inspectors had to flee Iraq so that they wouldn't get killed by Chimpy's bombs?
I'm a physicist whose been hanging around with lots of very smart people over the last two decades, and I've never actually met anyone who has identified themself as a mensa member.
Richard
Ditto for me hanging out among some of the world's smartest biologists.
Why would she suggest it? Mimi has, um, issues.
pie
like being a 300 pound gas station attendant named Cletus in Tuscaloosa who pretends to be a European supermodel-astrophysicist in the internets?
you know I think when Iran finally gets it act together, it could become quite the powerhouse
i mean their population is well educated and they have a fine historic tradition
I don't get why the Bush Junta wish to reduced Iran to rubble? I mean it has a young population and eventually the old mullahs will die off
also the US should be supporting Al Jazeera, and like providing free satellite dishes.
TV and Radio are far greater weapons than bombs.
TheaLogie suggested that we exchange e-mail addresses. At that point I had to go to work.
I guess I was cautious because I would not appreciate someone trying to track me down based on snippets of personal info I've shared here.
But hey, the gloves are off now.
Maher said something high-larious about Diana last night on RealTime.
Can't remember what it was but they replay it all the time.
Patrick McHenry, that sanctimonious North Carolina repug prig, may be the next Larry Craig:
Oh, please, Jebus, make it so.
Okay, now you're just showing off.
SAT scales were defined to have a mean of 500 and SD of 100, though it seems they changed the SD to 110 in 1995. So you can do the math to figure out the 98th percentile for those.
That is stupid. When I was in third grade my teacher did a contest with prizes for who ever read the most books that year. (And basically everyone eventually got SOME kind of prize so that everyone was encouraged.)
It inspired my life long love of libraries and reading.
fourlegsrgood, gots pitchfork | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 4:46 pm
Libraries are fun. Just be nice to your librarian and don't piss her off. And bring your items back on time. And don't whine about your fines.
Oddly enough, I'm a physicist whose been hanging around with lots of very smart people over the last two decades, and I've never actually met anyone who has identified themself as a mensa member.
Ditto for me hanging out with some world class neuroscientists.
“Sixty-two is really young,” Mr. Bush said, “and yet I’ll be through with Al Gore's presidency.”
Fixed the Liar 'n' Thief's typo.
all i managed was a Third Class Honour in Ancient History from Swansea Uni
its not a good as a 2.2 or even a 2.1 and well below a 1st
i think i should of worked harder, spent too much time partying I think
i am good at talking about what I know but I struggle to put it on paper
Richard, someone on my blog has a question about your pics.
I've only known one guy who claimed to be a Mensa member and he was a pathological liar. He was also living in a small town, which makes it really stupid to be a pathological liar, because everyone knows everyone's business and knows that you're lying.
Is it something like the inspectors had to flee Iraq so that they wouldn't get killed by Chimpy's bombs?
That sounds right but it wouldn't fit into what I wrote. Maybe if I changed it to "The UN demanded to get inspectors into Iraq over Bush's objections and Hussein agreed."
Ah, yes. There it is. Thanks for finding the error.
me am deciderer. me am no need stoopid facts! my brain is decide! wha happen?
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I seem to have miscalculated. Oops. I guss the +/- 1 sigma = 66% only holds for the first sigma.
Actually closer to 68%. The rule of thumb for SD is 34% from 0-1, 14 from 1-2, and 2 for the rest.
What, everyone doesn't have a z-table next to the computer?
also the US should be supporting Al Jazeera, and like providing free satellite dishes.
TV and Radio are far greater weapons than bombs.
Moonbootica, Graduate
*
honey sweet
come sit beside me
if we employed reason in making US policy - the world would faint.
I am not really suited to academia
“Sixty-two is really young,” Mr. Bush said, “and yet I’ll be through with my presidency.”
He can spend the rest of his miserable life trying to wash the blood off his hands.
.all i managed was a Third Class Honour in Ancient History from Swansea Uni
My undergraduate career was mediocre to say the least. I think a lot of people just aren't ready to concentrate on academic matters like that until they're a bit older.
i hear no mention of mensa here in silicon valley, where everybody i meet is way smarter than me...
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Ditto for me hanging out among some of the world's smartest biologists.
They don't feel the need to have their intelligence validated by some club, I would imagine.
like being a 300 pound gas station attendant named Cletus in Tuscaloosa who pretends to be a European supermodel-astrophysicist in the internets?
Jim
Nah, she's real enough. Even left a message for NTodd and she sounds exactly like I thought she would. She has other issues. Kind of scary really, especially the way she hangs around here trying to buddy up with people.
Are these IQ tests on the intertubs reliable?
I've taken some of them, and if 132 is high, I'm not as stupid as I think,
Mike Allen on CNN says Mark Warner has an advantage in the 2008 VA Senate race because so many people will think they're voting for John Warner.
Like he wasn't elected Governor in his own right and lost the Senate race to Macaca in '96.
OK, but this IS Virginia. (I keed. I keed!)
Last night Jamie MacIntyre,a reporter on CNN International, referred to "Bush, The Decider" seemingly without a trace of irony.
Standardized tests like the WAIS for IQ have a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. The Z score for the 98th percentile is roughly 2.06. So the IQ corresponding to the 98th percentile would be
100 + 2.06(15) = 130.9.
JeffCO | 09.01.07 - 5:40 pm,/i>
I once stumbled upon a record of my brother Bunny-Bunny's score, courtesy of Christopher Robin Day School testing - 170. Mummy would never tell me what mine was -- she disapproved of the whole argument.
ok
now it is clear that a troll is namestealing moon
shit
am I slow on the uptake or what.
my brother is a lot smarter than me (he graduated with a 2.1 from Leeds University in Religious Studies and English), he just picks things up just like that
also the US should be supporting Al Jazeera, and like providing free satellite dishes.
TV and Radio are far greater weapons than bombs.
Moonbootica, Graduate
And electricity to run the darn things. Saddam the Madman could restore electricity even while under international sanctions. FEMA could have learned a thing or two from him.
An island of ice the size of Manhattan has drifted into a remote channel and jammed itself in.
The Ayles Ice Island changed the Arctic map by breaking free from the Canadian coast two years ago.
Scientists have been tracking the progress of this monster iceberg amid fears that it could edge west towards oil and gas installations off Alaska.
The creation of the island is seen by many scientists as a key indicator of the rapid warming of the Arctic.
Ayles Ice Island is vast, measuring about 16km (10 miles) long and five kilometres (three miles) across.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...ure/
6970824.stm
but at the software company that i work at, a bunch of us engineers did spend an hour one afternoon looking at Cats That Look Like Hitler and Stuff On My Cat
isn't that a mensa-approved activity?
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I am not really suited to academia
That's what I said when I was your age. But after 7-8 years doing other stuff, I was delighted to go to graduate school and get a stipend for reading and doing research.
I've taken some of them, and if 132 is high, I'm not as stupid as I think,
smalfish, Saved
hrumph
132 is, like, barely fucking mensa...
its really me, honest
Even left a message for NTodd and she sounds exactly like I thought she would.
I though that was angel annie.
I never thought you were being namestolen.
I’ve got God’s shoulder to cry on
Sweet Mother, if the next president never mentions god I will be so happy that I can hardly stand it. Collecting signatures today, I can't tell you how many times people said, "I'll sign. I don't care who's next as long as it's not a Republican." Granted, I live in a pretty blue corner of the state, but, still.
The mayor of a city in western Russia has issued a list of excuses that he will not tolerate from civil servants.
Alexander Kuzmin, mayor of Megion in western Siberia, said that officials must stop using phrases such as "I don't know" and "it's lunch time".
Mr Kuzmin said city officials should help improve people's lives and solve their problems, not make excuses.
The mayor's press office said the list consists of 27 forbidden phrases, including "there's no money".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/
6974216.stm
I am not really suited to academia
That's what I said when I was your age. But after 7-8 years doing other stuff, I was delighted to go to graduate school and get a stipend for reading and doing research.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.01.07 - 5:54 pm | #
When did you escape Dayton?
"Standardized tests like the WAIS for IQ have a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. The Z score for the 98th percentile is roughly 2.06. So the IQ corresponding to the 98th percentile would be
100 + 2.06(15) = 130.9."
i'm in, i'm in! give me the paper!
fuck that. give me money!
i hear no mention of mensa here in silicon valley
If a few venture capitalists joined then they would be SRO.
I don't get why the Bush Junta wish to reduced Iran to rubble? I mean it has a young population and eventually the old mullahs will die off
The Iranians, IMO, are refusing to take part in the one world government scheme. So they have to be bombed to smithereens.
its really me, honest
We know it's you, bdg.
132 is, like, barely fucking mensa...
You go to the Army then.
Nah, she's real enough.
There's a person behind the character, but is the character real?
Even left a message for NTodd and she sounds exactly like I thought she would.
Is there a link to the recording?
When did you escape Dayton?
As soon as possible. I was 16.
I'm a physicist whose been hanging around with lots of very smart people over the last two decades, and I've never actually met anyone who has identified themself as a mensa member.
Richard
All the guys I hang with at the Harmony Bar seem real smart and none of them ever mention mensa
Mr Kuzmin said city officials should help improve people's lives and solve their problems, not make excuses.
more of that radical leftist ideology...
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I am not really suited to academia
Moonbootica, Graduate
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that line threw me girl
you are so great with you abilities in history - you could easily teach it.
Are these IQ tests on the intertubs reliable?
Every bit as reliable as Loud Obbs online polls.
I am certain that George Bush will go to his grave never acknowledging even to himself all the damage to America that he has wrought. And as he points out, 62 is young. Many of his very nasty chickens will probably come home to roost before he kicks it.
Good on you Hecate. Thank you.
Some asshole at the vigil pulled over to the shoulder and very slowly went by giving each one of us the finger. Very manly to give the middle finger salute to old ladies. We all smiled and said have a nice day.
I always chuckle when people tell me they're Mensa material.
Much greatness arises in Ohio
[sprints off with parents bios Fayette and Ashtabula OHIO yeah!]
i keed~!
Every bit as reliable as Loud Obbs online polls.
Curses!
Foiled again!
i hear no mention of mensa here in silicon valley
If a few venture capitalists joined then they would be SRO.
George Johnston | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 5:56 pm | #
our special engineer gravity field repels gucci loafers and management jargon
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Dune is not as good as I remember.
Many of his very nasty chickens will probably come home to roost before he kicks it.
blerb
yeah, but the asshat will get Social Security checks.
Every bit as reliable as Loud Obbs online polls.
Tonight! Lou Dobbs has a new poll! Should illegal aliens be tortured or given the right to rape blond women in federal office buildings?
I've been around academia my whole life I don't recall ever meeting anyone who claimed to be in Mensa. I'm sure they're out there though. The thing is, IQ does not really have much to do with things like occupation or financial success. Or political, as we're all too aware. I knew a guy from a family of neurosurgeons who was pretty goddamned brilliant and was working for years as a mover. Good money, time to read, and nobody bothered you.
Is there a link to the recording?
Richard
Ask NTodd.
Before she went kerfluey we actually had some really interesting conversations. I lived in Italy for four years and we discussed life as an expat. Believe me, she's for real and quite smart. Just weird.
Okay, it's my night for cooking.
Ciao a tutti.
I use to live next door to Mensa headquarters when they were in Brooklyn.
On West 2nd Street and Ave. Z.
Never saw a person go in or out of the place.
Then they moved to Texas.
.Dune is not as good as I remember.
Snow, Liberal
What, the first book? Surely you keed.
We didn't go Ukrainian when the Chimp and the Supremes "fixed" the outcome.
Indeed. Where was our Orange Revolution?
At home watching the GOP mob manufacture outrage...
"Much greatness arises in Ohio."
but real greatness leaves, as it must.
even though the American system is going through a rough patch, I still think its worth admiring
yeah i know thats crazy talk i'm pretty despairing over my own political system
Some asshole at the vigil pulled over to the shoulder and very slowly went by giving each one of us the finger. Very manly to give the middle finger salute to old ladies. We all smiled and said have a nice day.
I really only got two negative reactions. One older guy, prosperous, likely former military, when I said, "Sign to get Hillary on the ballot?" Said, "No. Never, never, never." When he came out of the farmers' market in a bit I said, "Oh, I know. You already told me. No, never, never." He smiled a little bit and said, "Well, good for you for doing what you believe in." A woman, with, I'm sorry, really cheap plastic surgery, said, "No. That's a hell no." I just said, "Have a good weekend." Bugs the crap out of these folks when you don't rise to their bait.
You're my hero for doing those weekly vigils!
Dune is not as good as I remember.
Book, movie, or mini-series?
What, the first book? Surely you keed.
Oops. Sorry. The De Laurentis film.
I always chuckle when people tell me they're Mensa material.
I bet many of them aren't even good building material.
I've been around academia my whole life I don't recall ever meeting anyone who claimed to be in Mensa.
I have, and although I don't want to draw a stereotype, it has been my experience that without exception, to a person, they've been insecure about their intelligence.
My theory is: don't tell me how smart you are; show me.
Well, you have to have a high IQ to be successful at some things, but just having a high IQ doesn't make you successful at anything.
I am certain that George Bush will go to his grave never acknowledging even to himself all the damage to America that he has wrought.
His entire self-image is built on a series of ever larger delusions that he clings to desperately. The trust fund baby who's a regular guy, the cheerleader who's a star athlete, the draft-dodger who's a fighter pilot, the upward-failing 'son-of' who's a self-made business man, the dry drunk political pawn who's Jeebus's own warrior and the reincarnation of Churchill.
Lucidity would be devastating to him. If one card moves, the whole house comes down.
I always chuckle when people tell me they're Mensa material.
Genuinely smart people typically don't feel the need to advertise it.
OK, who conjured the wanker?
Is there a link to the recording?
Yup.
Here and here.
Oops. Sorry. The De Laurentis film.
Feh! The Movie was shit. How does one even begin to tell the thoughts of a character in a film?
What on earth would prompt someone to give the finger to peaceful war protesters. I don't understand the aggression towards us.
Victor Klemperer, in his diary written in Dresden in the 40s (he was one of the last Jews to live there, and escaped deportation only due to the bombing of the city) mentions people approaching him and saying awful, spiteful things to him on the street (as well as decent people who were kind), as if he were evil incarnate.
Can some people actually feel such hatred towards liberals and peace activists? It makes my head spin.
the dry drunk political pawn who's Jeebus's own warrior and the reincarnation of Churchill.
Now, that is good writing.
At home watching the GOP mob manufacture outrage...
I don't think anyone could have predicted six years of unrelenting clusterfucking.
.The De Laurentis film.
Snow, Liberal
Got it. If you really want to hate it, read the book right before watching it. Your blood will boil.
Well, you have to have a high IQ to be successful at some things, but just having a high IQ doesn't make you successful at anything.
Necessary but not sufficient. About half my graduate school class did not make it. There was some weird randomness, but much of the success could be attributed to sheer stubborness and motivation. Same with getting tenure.
The De Laurentis film.
Which version -- the long one or the short one? I remember the long one as being pretty good -- at least I enjoyed it.
Can some people actually feel such hatred towards liberals and peace activists?
They have a disturbing lack of faith.
What on earth would prompt someone to give the finger to peaceful war protesters.
Well, we're uncivil and they're the party of civility, responsibility, and family values.
" to a person, they've been insecure about their intelligence."
maybe they are just curious or have a pretty good inkling they'll do well and take the test.
being a member would seem to be worth about nothing....
I don't think anyone could have predicted six years of unrelenting clusterfucking.
I swear to you I felt an overwhelming sense of dread when he was running in 2000. I knew it would be bad.
Good money, time to read, and nobody bothered you.
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heh
Sorta like all of my years on the horse-racing circuit as a groom before I finished college.
OR now that I paint a school or two a year....and blog.
Lucidity would be devastating to him. If one card moves, the whole house comes down.
Jim
Alas, this is true of the modern "conservative" movement as a whole.
believe me, if you thought you were smart before, writing software for a living will quickly make you feel pretty stupid
did you know that all the mistakes that programmers make are written up in a public place, the bug database, so that every programmer can keep accurate count of exactly how dumb they are?
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Which version -- the long one or the short one
Extended version. I just remember the special effects being better.
Two teenage girls were forced to walk naked through the streets after a gang of older girls stole their clothes.
The 14-year-olds were attacked by the gang on Field Street in Gorton, Manchester, on Thursday night.
The thieves took a mobile phone from one of them before slapping their victims, pulling their hair, stealing their clothes and running off.
The girls had to walk naked to a shop to get help. The attackers are said to be white and aged about 15 or 16.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/engla...ter/
6973974.stm
Well, we're uncivil and they're the party of civility, responsibility, and family values.
HAHAHA! As they've proven again and again...
I don't understand the aggression towards us.
Victor Klemperer, in his diary written in Dresden in the 40s (he was one of the last Jews to live there, and escaped deportation only due to the bombing of the city) mentions people approaching him and saying awful, spiteful things to him on the street (as well as decent people who were kind), as if he were evil incarnate.
Can some people actually feel such hatred towards liberals and peace activists? It makes my head spin.
Yes. Jews. American Indians. The Irish. Blacks. Hispanics. They are threatened by "the other". BTW, I found Klemperer's diary quite wonderful.
I fucking know that the SOB with his shoulder box was out to fuck us.
"Can some people actually feel such hatred towards liberals and peace activists? It makes my head spin.
Marcellina "
yes. but like you, i have no idea why.
When did you escape Dayton?
As soon as possible. I was 16.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.01.07 - 5:56 pm
Lucky you.
but much of the success could be attributed to sheer stubborness and motivation. Same with getting tenure.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.01.07 - 6:05 pm | #
in my family, we always say "you can't make yourself any smarter, but you can work harder"
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Can some people actually feel such hatred towards liberals and peace activists?
Yes.
This has been another edition....
did you know that all the mistakes that programmers make are written up in a public place, the bug database, so that every programmer can keep accurate count of exactly how dumb they are?
It goes back to lack of marketing and fashion sense. Developers' mistakes are called code defects. Program managers' mistakes are call design change requests.
Maybe the long version works just as a film if you never get anywhere near the books, but once you've read them, you will spot too many unforgivable deviations from the story to ever be kindly disposed towards it. The SciFi channel's version was a much more faithful adaptation, even if the costumes and acting left something to be desired.
believe me, if you thought you were smart before, writing software for a living will quickly make you feel pretty stupid
Still, writing code that works is incredibly reinforcing.
"I swear to you I felt an overwhelming sense of dread when he was running in 2000. I knew it would be bad."
god yes. the info was out there, if you knew where to look and had the inclination.
you want cute? This is cute.
Sorta like all of my years on the horse-racing circuit as a groom before I finished college. OR now that I paint a school or two a year....and blog.
Five Easy Pieces.
Can some people actually feel such hatred towards liberals and peace activists? It makes my head spin.
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what gets me is the breadth of disolution of standards of regular US that have taken the fall.
Loud Obbs does make a few well versed hits out of that addlement of his.
I hope the weather is as gorgeous where you are as it is here. Long, lovely Westen sunlight stretched out on the green grass. Warm. No humidity. Blue skies. Butterflies on the budelia. Just amazing.
Victor Klemperer was related to the conductor Otto Klemperer, and to the latter's son, Werner, who we all know as Colonel Klinck.
you want cute? This is cute.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Love the sand on the tip of the nose.
yes. but like you, i have no idea why.
Especially people who care about strangers, who care about evil, and social injustice.
Can some people actually feel such hatred towards liberals and peace activists? It makes my head spin.
It goes hand-in-hand with the house of cards thing. Nothing is more hateful to them than somebody with a compelling argument against their delusional state.
The SciFi channel's version was a much more faithful adaptation, even if the costumes and acting left something to be desired.
Yep. But now I see the other as just as bad and without remaining faithful to the book. It is now verboten.
Sorta like all of my years on the horse-racing circuit as a groom before I finished college. OR now that I paint a school or two a year....and blog.
Five Easy Pieces.
JeffCO
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:-0
it only hurts when people want money and all I have is time.
Love the sand on the tip of the nose.
4-month old "teddy bear" puppy. His first time at the beach!
you want cute? This is cute.
Beach doggie.
Adorable.
How can you just care about the bleeding crowd?
How about a needing friend?
Developers' mistakes are called code defects. Program managers' mistakes are call design change requests.
My mistakes are called, "Finding no error, we affirm the agency's decision and deny remand."
my alma mater in the news - Aberystwyth, Bangor and Swansea universities have become independent of the University of Wales from today.
Their new status was being greeted as an important milestone although University of Wales degrees will still be awarded.
The changes are part of a modernisation within the university system in Wales.
The University of Wales, founded in 1893, called it a "new era" and a spokeswoman said: "We're all moving forward and modernising our structure."
It is felt that the changes could help the universities' ability to develop and compete for students.
Aberystwyth, Bangor and Cardiff were original founding members of the University of Wales, while Swansea joined in 1920, and it grew to a federation of nine universities and colleges.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales...les/
6972832.stm
Can some people actually feel such hatred towards liberals and peace activists?
I haven't read "War Is A Force That Gives Us Meaning", but I think the phrase gives a lot of insight into how those people think. They've convinced themselves that their votes and their bumper stickers make them brave, and that they're brave in service of a good, even godly, cause. If we're right, then they have sent people to die (and kill) for no reason.
And if God's not on their side.....
Father Coughlin po polsku
Like vampires they never die but raise themselves up again.
OK, who conjured the wanker?
I always show up when Mensa is invoked. Or wanking.
When did you escape Dayton?
As soon as possible. I was 16.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.01.07 - 5:56 pm
Lucky you.
As I have mentioned before, I think it was idyllic in ways pre WWII. And even when I was young it was wonderful to ride the electric trolleys and go to the various amusement parks, to walk around the Monument Avenue bridge and enjoy downtwn shopping. But punching I-75 through the town combined with the race riots and the rust belt phenomenon seems to have gutted it pretty thoroughly. I have two brothers who still live in the area. I don't think they are too happy with the state of things either.
I hope the weather is as gorgeous where you are as it is here.
It is gorgeous here, too. 80 degrees.
I spent the last two hours repotting over a dozen plants in new clay pots I received for my birthday.
These are the plants from my dad's funeral, and I've vowed to take the best care of them as I know how. They've already doubled and tripled in size since last April, when we first repotted them from the funeral baskets.
My mistakes are called, "Finding no error, we affirm the agency's decision and deny remand."
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Mine are called "No citation, no basis, no justification. No foundation all the way down the line."
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it only hurts when people want money and all I have is time.
have you explained that time *is* money?
Still, writing code that works is incredibly reinforcing.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.01.07 - 6:10 pm | #
truly
i call it being 'addicted to challenge' - it looks hard at the beginning, but if you stick with it, you almost always get the charge of succeeding in the end, and making something work
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My wife is filling the room with silent but deadly opprobrium. I'd better get out there and mow the lawn now....
I just remember the special effects being better.
Okay. I remember at the time thinking that the FX were just sort of adequate. They've been completely overshadowed by what can be done today. As for me, with my addiction to cheesy old sci fi movies from the 50s and 60s, I have a great tolerance for cheap special effects. As a matter of fact, I find some of today's FX annoying because they are so good (and used so much) that they are unbelievable.
My mistakes are called fuck ups. They usually occur when I am lazy, behave badly, or am remiss in caring for something I should be tending to.
Vicki,
That's wonderful. Those plants will always remind you of your dad. What kind of plants?
My brothers are geniuses. John, or was it the other one, brought me back some real Iraqi sand for my world domination diorama.
They tell me my sister is teh hotness. Also, is paste porridge as nutritious as they say?
My wife is filling the room with silent but deadly opprobrium.
Looks may not kill, but they force blerb to get off of his ass...
But punching I-75 through the town combined with the race riots and the rust belt phenomenon seems to have gutted it pretty thoroughly.
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yikes
that adequately describes a hundred American cities that I can name and probably hundreds more.
Victor Klemperer was related to the conductor Otto Klemperer, and to the latter's son, Werner, who we all know as Colonel Klinck.
Marcellina | 09.01.07 - 6:11 pm | #
Hee hee. I was going to go to IMDB and look that up, but I got distracted by another post.
I believe "Col Klink" and Walter Matthau used to do fund-raising guest conductor stints with an orchestra in LA. I was thinking of that with Chimply's weird recent conductor fantasies
I must be tired. I read that as "these are the pants from my Dad's funeral".
My mistakes are just called brain farts.
Victor Klemperer was related to the conductor Otto Klemperer, and to the latter's son, Werner, who we all know as Colonel Klinck.
Was it Klemperer or Furtwangler or someone else who managed late in life to injure himself falling off the podium, and then another time accidentally stabbing himself with a baton?
Lucky you.
As I have mentioned before, I think it was idyllic in ways pre WWII. And even when I was young it was wonderful to ride the electric trolleys and go to the various amusement parks, to walk around the Monument Avenue bridge and enjoy downtwn shopping. But punching I-75 through the town combined with the race riots and the rust belt phenomenon seems to have gutted it pretty thoroughly. I have two brothers who still live in the area. I don't think they are too happy with the state of things either.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.01.07 - 6:13 pm | #
I talk to people who remember how nice it was, way back when. Now even some of the gang problems have infiltrated the suburbs. And those who can move to the outer ring areas like Springboror, Tipp City, Troy, etc.
Downtown Dayton is a shell (in many cases literally) of its former self.
I hope to be out within three years.
I just remember the special effects being better.
No film has ever surpassed the fx of Tron.
I am now singing HAIR songs and loving it Jeffco.
i call it being 'addicted to challenge' - it looks hard at the beginning,
I sometimes find it looks friggin' impossible at the beginning.
lurkity lurk lurk lurk
Werner Klemperer was an extremely cultured man. I'm sorry he ended up playing only Nazis in Hollywood.
But hey, it's a living.
lurkity lurk lurk lurk
dirk gently, sociopathetic©
Wait a minute. We have to announce when we lurk, now? I was all comfy here!
i call it being 'addicted to challenge' - it looks hard at the beginning,
I sometimes find it looks friggin' impossible at the beginning.
Yes, it is impossible. Now, let's get started.
I hope the weather is as gorgeous where you are as it is here. Long, lovely Westen sunlight stretched out on the green grass. Warm. No humidity. Blue skies. Butterflies on the budelia. Just amazing.
It's perfect weather here.
As I have mentioned before, I think it was idyllic in ways pre WWII. And even when I was young it was wonderful to ride the electric trolleys and go to the various amusement parks, to walk around the Monument Avenue bridge and enjoy downtwn shopping.
And every home had a special tap whence flowed dandelion wine.
Afternoon, rational people.
started off sunny with blue skies this morning.
afternoon and evening it clouded up
We have to announce when we lurk, now?
we don't have to, but i noticed that no one was talking about me.
Alrighty, my dsl is being wonky, so I'm off to enjoy some salad and movies.
Misbehave yourselves.
Hecate,
Different dracena, bromeliad, fern, a succulent that flowers with pink blossoms, palm, aglaonema, agavaceae, peace lily, ivy...out of three baskets, I got over 18 plants, not including one large dracena. None have died.
TD Badgers!
35-21!
booyakashacka!
have you explained that time *is* money?
JeffCO
*
well
I pay my bills
I refer to campaign contributions.
I do put in my time and my two cents.
My blog is read by all of the DE pols and the DE media if by no one else!
I am now singing HAIR songs and loving it Jeffco.
Don't thank me, thank Frank Mills.
Yes, it is impossible. Now, let's get started.
Echidne |
the impossible takes a bit longer.
call it being 'addicted to challenge' - it looks hard at the beginning,
I sometimes find it looks friggin' impossible at the beginning.
That is why I love Test Driven Development. Sitting down to write a program that works can be daunting. However, writing a test case that fails is a piece of cake.
slugs ate my mother's Starflower (Trientalis borealis), stripped it bear and her runner beans
which annoyed my mum no end
It's perfect weather here.
pie
It's only 109!
Must go plant the Mexican Bird of Paradise and the hibiscus. After dark probably.
.
And every home had a special tap whence flowed dandelion wine.
JeffCO
My sister hates remembering our family's early days, filled with anger and stress. I remember it as full of summertime golden hazes and good books.
No time was happy. No time was golden. There are good times at the same time as bad.
Just depends how you look at it....
Good old fashioned soaking rain here, with thunder. Pretty nice.
You know that dirk gently? Has he been around recently? He's weird, huh?
And every home had a special tap whence flowed dandelion wine.
Not quite. But my aunt remembered carrying a wooden bucket down to the park on Saturdays to get her father some beer. That would have been around 1908. These days they would arrest my grandparents and send my aunt off to a foster home.
My daughter scored an XTC CD from her dad. I bought it for him when we were married. She liked it so much she asked if she could take it home to load on her iPod. I forgot how damned good they were.
Funny thing is, she said she remembers these songs from when she was little.
my mother keeps trying to grow runner beans and despite how many slug traps she sets up, it still ends up eaten
this wet weather has seen a increase in the slug population apparently
I don't think anyone could have predicted six years of unrelenting clusterfucking.
I swear to you I felt an overwhelming sense of dread when he was running in 2000. I knew it would be bad.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:06 pm | #
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as my Jung test prved im very intutitive...and i went around warning everybody...when i heard he had the largest warchest,i had extreme dread...i just knew it would be bad...did i ever think they would let 9/11 happen ,NO
this wet weather has seen a increase in the slug population apparently
Moonbootica, Graduate
Beer traps are the best.
They die happy.
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Was it Klemperer or Furtwangler or someone else who managed late in life to injure himself falling off the podium, and then another time accidentally stabbing himself with a baton?
Heh, dunno. The Baroque conductor/composer Lully stabbed his foot with his...well, I want to say beating stick, but that leads to other images! Died from infection from the injury.
You know that dirk gently? Has he been around recently? He's weird, huh?
Echidne
I was just going to say the same thing...
But the fundamental question is, is the world better off as a result of your leadership?”
No, George. It's not. It's much, much worse off. You're a failure. You're the collosal failure that your mother always said that you were.
on a happier note, we have a family of hedgehogs at the bottom of the garden
its so cute seeing the little hoglets with their parents eating the hedgehog food my mum puts out
My mistakes are " oh motherfucker. Katie, Bar The Door".
I'm sorry he ended up playing only Nazis in Hollywood.
He played lots of other things besides Nazis. He's just most famous for Colonel Klink. There were 167 episodes of Hogan's Heroes.
my mother keeps trying to grow runner beans and despite how many slug traps she sets up, it still ends up eaten
this wet weather has seen a increase in the slug population apparently
Moonbootica, Graduate
I thought that was why you were building little hedgehog houses? Don't they eat slugs?
I sometimes find it looks friggin' impossible at the beginning.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.01.07 - 6:19 pm | #
especially with that wonderfully cryptic code that has no intention of giving you any information about why the bits are moving around:
////////////////////////////
// i refuse to tell you what EvPxePrg means
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void EvPxePrg(void* p1, void* p2)
{
//i am not an informative comment
*p1 = mxtplx(p2);
}
and we still have our resident lone frog, he enjoys just sitting in bowls or tubs of putrid water
hopping out now and then to find food
real odd frog
its so cute seeing the little hoglets with their parents eating the hedgehog food my mum puts out
I remember that. We used to put out saucers of milk for them and at dusk they would all come to drink it. The little ones were like tiny pincushions.
its so cute seeing the little hoglets with their parents eating the hedgehog food my mum puts out
Moonbootica, Graduate
Showing that I type slower than most humans...
Lully stabbed his foot with his...well, I want to say beating stick, but that leads to other images! Died from infection from the injury.
Isn't Lully the one who got all string players to bow in unison? When I went off to college, one of my older brothers gave me three questions to answer. One was "What is a Mannheim Rocket?" I believe that is due to Lully.
I thought that was why you were building little hedgehog houses? Don't they eat slugs?
ellroon | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:26 pm | #
that they do
My daughter scored an XTC CD from her dad. I bought it for him when we were married. She liked it so much she asked if she could take it home to load on her iPod. I forgot how damned good they were.
I used an XTC song in my first Paxcast. And now my second's posted. Ahem.
*p1 = mxtplx(p2);
If you can get the code to run backwards it vanishes into the fifth dimension.
My mistakes are " oh motherfucker. Katie, Bar The Door".
I don't know what mine would be called since I never make mistakes.
that they do
I'd best be careful then.
did i ever think they would let 9/11 happen ,NO
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shit
honey child
that is because the grownups are supposed to be on the side of good and these people are not. There is not one scintilla of blame for 9/11 outside of DC, not one.
Come to think, what about the FBI worker who tried to blow the whistle on teh mofos who wanted to learn hoiw to fly.not.land and was ignored.
We need to pin a medal on that chest just for trying.
on a happier note, we have a family of hedgehogs at the bottom of the garden
we will need pictures of that.
[oops - sees shadow, returns to den]
I don't know what mine would be called since I never make mistakes.
I guess you never used an eraser, then. Or rubber, as it is called in the U.K.
my mun joined a Hedgehog society, she gets a magazine and has recently purchased a T-shirt
lack of butterflies this summer, but during the gorgeous weather over the Bank Holiday we saw a couple on the Buddleia
I don't know what mine would be called since I never make mistakes.
Well, ain't you the motherfucking Mensa Member?
Wait...
GWPDA, do you mean to tell me that it dipped below 110 in Phoenix today?
That is why I love Test Driven Development. Sitting down to write a program that works can be daunting. However, writing a test case that fails is a piece of cake.
George Johnston | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:22 pm | #
i coulda saved myself a lot of trouble over the years if i had written more test harnesses. i do write quite a bit of UI code, though, and UI test code is a much bigger pain in the ass
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Here's your *successful* surge benchmark:
1,809 Iraqi civilans killed in August.
I hope Petrayus chokes on that report.
a family of hedgehogs at the bottom of the garden
I've never seen hedgehogs; I don't think they live in America? I do have squirrels, bunnies, chipmunks, raccoons, and a fox.
Speaking of mistakes, I gotta go fix one now. Katie left the door open again.
There were 167 episodes of Hogan's Heroes.
One of the sixties sitcoms that I've developed an increasing dislike for over the years.
When I play frisbee golf it is usually just me and the hedgehogs.
my father for an outside person doesn't like spending time in the garden
he'll go hiking in Nepal, France, Swizterland and Italy but somehow he doesn't do garden
I've never seen hedgehogs; I don't think they live in America? I do have squirrels, bunnies, chipmunks, raccoons, and a fox.
I think that is correct. We have woodchucks (groundhogs).
isn't a hedgehog a groundhog?
our garden is also a regular highway for neighborhood cats
which drives George potty, he will get all upset and start pawring the window and mewing
Heidi is like 'so what?'
I've never seen hedgehogs
People have them as pets here.
WHEN NEW BABY TURTLE WAKES UP ..ILL BLOG HER/HIM..oSCAR IS 3 INCH BOX TURTLE ...PERFECTLY FORMED ,LITTLE FEETSIES ,AND EATS ROTISSERIE CHIKEN,AND CHERRY TOMATOS OUT OF MY HAND teh cute...please forgive caps ...im tired..okay?
Wait...
GWPDA, do you mean to tell me that it dipped below 110 in Phoenix today?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
Day ain't finished yet, sugar. It's only 3.30 - we've got another three hours of heating here.
I'd sure like a hedgehog t-shirt. I could wear it with my Gila Monster shirt!
iirc groundhogs are rodents of some sort. Hedgehogs are related to marmots.
But they're domesticated - pygmy hedgehogs.
isn't a hedgehog a groundhog?
No, it's more like a porcupine.
I'd sure like a hedgehog t-shirt. I could wear it with my Gila Monster shirt!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:34 pm | #
perhaps i could get my mum to order another one and post it to you?
nevermind
[runs off clutching Wind in the Willows]
Oscar looks like this
http://www.ruscelli.com/images/
L...R4P4136aweb.jpg
One of the sixties sitcoms that I've developed an increasing dislike for over the years.
How come?
One of the sixties sitcoms that I've developed an increasing dislike for over the years.
How come?
It's like having a sitcom about Gitmo or Abu Ghraib?
sittenpretty,
That is one cute turtle.
WHO WANTS TO SEX MY TURTLE?
TD Badgers!
41-21!
That is one cute turtle.
That's a turtle? I thought it was a picture of the young NTodd.
42
the answer.
But if a groundhog is a woodchuck, they don't eat wood like a beaver does, no way.
DINSDALE!
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This is a hedgehog: http://thumbsnap.com/v/icbHvT1p.jpg
perhaps i could get my mum to order another one and post it to you?
Moonbootica, Graduate,/i>
Praps if you let me know where you found it?
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Dinsdale!
It's like having a sitcom about Gitmo or Abu Ghraib?
Those are still going on.
Personally, I think making fun of the Master Race is a good thing.
I've never seen hedgehogs; I don't think they live in America? I do have squirrels, bunnies, chipmunks, raccoons, and a fox.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I think a hedgehog is like a groundhog.
Heaven forfend! There's a PAX(cast) on my house!
But if a groundhog is a woodchuck, they don't eat wood like a beaver does, no way.
The etymology of the name woodchuck is unrelated to wood. It stems from an Algonquian name for the animal (possibly Narragansett), wuchak.
from wikip
close.
groundhogs are in fact a kind of marmot, which are rodents (or closely related)
hedgehogs are more closely related to moles and shrews.
http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/...ts-
Europe32.htm
sittenpretty,
That is one cute turtle.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:36 pm | #
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the gardener found him while cleaning out my flower beds upside down...but he woke up and walked...he scares me a little cause when i feed him,he unhinges his jaws,and opens TEH wide...dont want to lose the tip of my finger....yes i love him,i was NEVER allowed to have pets as a kid,somy first pet was abox turtle i brought home from camp!!!!
NTodd
Great podcast.
Coke to Norman.
Spiny Norman | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:39 pm |
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Thank you, I was trying to remember that name!
I like hedgehogs. I'm allowed to read "Wind in the Willows" and "Janes'" when I've been good. And the blindfold is off. I don't want to talk about the genital cuff. My brothers are geniuses.
Praps if you let me know where you found it?
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:39 pm | #
It was from some official hedgehog magazine, whose name escapes me at the moment
isn't a hedgehog a groundhog?
No, it's more like a porcupine.
It's even further removed. Porcupines and groundhogs are rodents, while hedgehogs belong to a different order of mammals altogether.
i was NEVER allowed to have pets as a kid
Well, you are making up for that!
Groundhog (woodchuck):
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Rodentia
Hedgehog:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Erinaceomorpha
Family: Erinaceidae
GWPDA-
There's a whole bunch of hedgehog t-shirts available
http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Hed...pt_/pg_/c_/
fpt_
http://animals.nationalgeographi.../
groundhog.html
"The groundhog, or woodchuck, is one of 14 species of marmots. These rodents live a feast-or-famine lifestyle and gorge themselves all summer to build up plentiful reserves of fat. "
By the way, the folks in Mexico didn't like Betito Gonzales much either.
heh- A hedgehog T-shirt for the post-FISA age
http://www.cafepress.com/buy/Hed..._______D/c_666/
GWPDA, I think i've found it - British Hedgehog Preservation Society
i was NEVER allowed to have pets as a kid
Well, you are making up for that!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:41 pm | #
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hahahahahaha
im still not allowed to mention them in my mothers presence....and you have mail.
A hedgehog is any of the small spiny mammals of the subfamily Erinaceinae and the order Erinaceomorpha. There are 16 species of hedgehog in five genera, found through parts of Europe, Asia, Africa, and New Zealand. There are no hedgehogs native to Australia, and no living species native to North America; those in New Zealand are introduced. Hedgehogs have changed little over the last 15 million years. Like many of the first mammals they have adapted to a nocturnal, insectivorous way of life. The name 'hedgehog' came into use around the year 1450, derived from the Middle English 'heyghoge', from 'heyg', 'hegge' = hedge, because it frequents hedgerows, and 'hoge', 'hogge' = hog, from its piglike snout.[2] Other folk names include 'urchin', 'hedgepig' and 'furze-pig'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehogs
Hedgehogs can grow to be very large and threatening, as this photo demonstrates.
squirrels are also marmots.
saw one or two marmots in Switzerland
and in Austria too
Alright, late to the party and all, but...
I'm no economist. Don't have a Ph.D. in anything. Eschew watching the Dow Jones because it's a marketing tool.
But I lived through the Texas real-estate debacle, and coincidentaally benefited (slightly) from it. I saw people treat residential property like casino chips, and real estate like it was gilt-edged bonds.
And even I knew, with my limited knowledge of finance (i.e., nearly zero) that ARM's are a bad idea born of desperation to get a loan. NOT the kind of thing you do willingly, or because you think it's better than a fixed rate issue.
My Panthers currently making Eastern Michigan their bee-hutch.
squirrels are also marmots.
I think of them as rats with designer tails.
Hedgehogs can grow to be very large and threatening, as this photo demonstrates.
JeffCO
Who knew?
speaking of the vigil
a local GOPerhead was dissing this lady for standing up
http://www.commondreams.org/head...s06/1203-
05.htm
"an elderly Wilmington woman whose Nazi-oppressed Austrian adolescence and early adulthood blossomed into an activist American citizenship and a fight against nuclear power."
I think of them as rats with designer tails.
I thought that was Paris Hilton with a Brazil wax.
Hedgehogs can grow to be very large and threatening, as this photo demonstrates.
JeffCO
Who knew?
Diane C.
No one could have predicted giant mutant hedgehogs....
/Condi
hedgehog babies are cool to hold...like an upside down hairbrush that moves
I haven't seen many squirrels this summer, however the chipmunks have taken over the backyard. They are so cute.
The box turtles lurk around the compost pile.
groundhogs are in fact a kind of marmot
That would explain their stilted language and prediliction for the f-word.
i was NEVER allowed to have pets as a kid
My first pet was a white part Cocker Spaniel named Casper. We had to give him away because he got into the neighbors garden. It broke my heart.
Hedgehoggery!
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grey squirrels vs red squirrels
when my family went camping in southern France, saw many red squirrels in the pine forests there
"the implication that he left because of totally unfair and basically racist treatment by the Democrats."
Abu is a classic self-hater.
That seems to be a Repug affliction.
DINSDALE!
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In a Daily Telegraph interview, Gen Sir Mike Jackson, chief of general staff during the 2003 invasion, attacked the policy as "intellectually bankrupt".
Moonbootica, Graduate
Morally bankrupt as well as fucking illegal, but I note Sir Mike had little to say about that.
grey squirrels vs red squirrels
Reedsburg, Wisconsin has black squirrels. No gray or brown squirrels to be found.
in berekely, they have weird black squirrels
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the implication that he left because of totally unfair and basically racist treatment by the Democrats
When have Dems ever not like hedgehogs?
Black squirrels in Germany too.
Karl Rove is having a hard time leaving the White House circus....
Hey man, nice marmot.
Hinterland Who's Who: Woodchuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h?
v=rfSOabHiY44
i made a couple of comments earlier and then had to leave for a bit. a few things about the mensa kerfuffle.
A. i never said i was mensa material. i asked if anyone knew what iq level it requires to be in it. i had, and still have, no idea what that level is. nor do i really care. i was just curious. and, also have never met anyone ever who claimed to be a member.
2. jdw posted a comment to my question. i had tried to make a self deprecating joke earlier that backfired, i pasted his post along with my comment and it triggered some other energy.
D. all i really know is that the more i know... the less i know.
peace
sittenpretty,
Six would be wonderful!
i used to feed the squirrels on my terrace daily...many many,mnay...they NEVER EVER pooped on it
Grey squirrels Sciurus carolinensis)displaced the native Red Squirrel (Sciurus vulgaris) in the UK.
Black squirrels in Germany too.
Marcellina | 09.01.07 - 6:50 pm | #
I wonder if squirrels have a well developed yet erroneous concept of race?
NTodd's Pa's Wife used to call NTodd's Pa "her Russian squirrel."
Marmots have been known to be dangerous around johnsons.
Red squirrel - clearly communist
we have big grey squirrels and little brown chipmonks. they get along quite well.
Why else would they only hang with their kind?
sittenpretty,
Six would be wonderful!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:51 pm | #
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Black squirrels in Germany too.
Marcellina
Canada, too.
Marmots have been known to be dangerous around johnsons.
Never accept a blow job from a marmot.
Notre Dame is getting fucking killed.
Heh.
Re: Black squirrels -- from Wikipedia:
Common squirrels include the Fox Squirrel (S. niger); the Western Grey Squirrel (S. griseus); the Douglas Squirrel (Tamiasciurus douglasii); the American Red Squirrel T. hudsonicus; and the Eastern Grey Squirrel (S. carolinensis), of which the "Black Squirrel" is a variant.
I can state for a fact red squirrels do not like impromtu baths with the hose.
I'm now going to finish the laundry and do my mending.
I shall be counting my blessings at the same time.
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fokowi, we are all coming to your lake cabin for a group hug and some night swimming. Start chilling the beer.
It's pretty pathetic when you realize we have not developed any more refined sensibility than squirrels.
Squirrels with WMD, we are doomed.
NTodd's Pa's Wife used to call NTodd's Pa "her Russian squirrel."
You can stop checking - your nuts are still there.
We have grey squirrels and black squirrels here in Northern VA. V. cute. I have oak trees and tons of acorns so I get lots of squirrels. Last fall, the oak trees "masted" -- so we had more acorns than you could count.
A. i never said i was mensa material. i asked if anyone knew what iq level it requires to be in it.
they have their own test, i believe. i took a sample once back before my mind snapped and it suggested i could join, but i decided i didn't want to hang around with a bunch of people with only the ability to pass that test in common.
I'm now going to finish the laundry and do my mending.
Would you mind having a look at our Constitution was well?
well, we know for sure that giuliani hates ferrets, since he told that ferret owner that he was 'sick', and that ferrets were weasels
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Terry C, how has the series between Canada and Russia's juniors been? good hockey?
the inspiration for my mensa level question was actually due to atrios' post about his geniusnessness. ness...
Would you mind having a look at our Constitution was well?
JeffCO
Tchure! I'll use the BIG needle!
Squirrels with WMD, we are doomed.
Shared Humanity
I have been keeping track of the nefarious activities of squirrels...
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...ll-save-
us.html
and other dangerous animals
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...rch?
q=squirrels
Tchure! I'll use the BIG needle! GWPDA
Yer a doll.
I was just appreciating an oak tree this morning that I planted two years ago. I replanted it actually, one of the many volunteers that I placed for the eventual screening of my deck. This oak's truck is ram-rod straight.
They grow slowly but they sure grow straight.
i imagine mensa parties go like this:
"i got an 87%. what did you get?"
"89"
"want to go to my place?"
"ew."
Terry C, how has the series between Canada and Russia's juniors been? good hockey?
mimi
Huh?
The day was spectacular!
watertiger
Wow! Where was that pic taken?
Where da fokowi?
fokowi at lake cabin:
A. i never said i was mensa material. i asked if anyone knew what iq level it requires to be in it. i had, and still have, no idea what that level is. nor do i really care. i was just curious. and, also have never met anyone ever who claimed to be a member.
I seem to recall Mensa is reserved for those that score above the 98th percentile, or 2 std dev above the norm on standard tests of intelligence. This translates to an IQ of about 132, taking 100 as the norm.
As for me, I would never join a club that would have me as a member.
Tchure! I'll use the BIG needle!
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09.01.07 - 6:57 pm |
I have some 200# test leader line..it's clear and will hardly show at all!
ellroon | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:57 pm | #
We need to raise the alert level to Code Red. These damn squirrels are all over the country.
Terry, the series of the century between Canada's junior hockey players and Russia's juniors?
Wow! Where was that pic taken?
The beach down the road from me mum's.
We need to raise the alert level to Code Red. These damn squirrels are all over the country.
Shared Humanity
And they are joining forces with other animalimammals!
Terry, the series of the century between Canada's junior hockey players and Russia's juniors?
mimi
Why are you asking ME?
I only throw around mensa shit because of the irony of people throwing it in my face.
IQ vs performance
for me
not so much
if you measure it in the typical
atypical
that's me
Manimals
And they are joining forces with other animalimammals!
We must be on guard against the mammaliofascists. It's either us or them!
mensa scores:
http://www.us.mensa.org/Content/
...fyingScores.htm
hmmph. you can get in with an sat score above 1250. i suspect a lot of posters here could join if they wanted.
plus they have their own.
Terry, I thought you were from Canuckistan. Sorry.
was having a brain fart earlier - what's the funny term for "male grooming" - i.e., waxing, etc.?
Like "mandals" or "manpurse". I can't remember.
The beach down the road from me mum's.
watertiger
nice!
fokowi, we are all coming to your lake cabin for a group hug and some night swimming. Start chilling the beer.
Marcellina | 09.01.07 - 6:55 pm | #
one word.
MMMMMM
you know... the first thing i saw when i got online this morning in the blue lagoon, was looking over and seeing marcellina and i all alone, covered by clean sheets.
then the rest of you showed up and fucked it all up for me.
go ahead, marcellina. bring 'em all with then...
I only throw around mensa shit because of the irony of people throwing it in my face.
...
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 7:01 pm | #
It ain't whatcha got. It's whatcha do with it.
Frankly, this is much better than a Mensa meeting could ever be, I am sure.
what's the funny term for "male grooming" - i.e., waxing, etc.?
Manscaping IIRC.
Down the rabbit-hole
There I was, about to plug the latest dire warning from Paul Craig Roberts, when it occurred to me to emphasise his right-wing street cred, and to mention in this connection his great book Alienation and the Soviet Economy (1971, 1991). Building on the brilliant insights of Michael Polanyi's The Contempt of Freedom, Roberts explained, much more clearly than Hayek or Mises ever did, exactly why the central planning of an industrial economy is impossible - impossible 'in the sense', as he put it, 'that it is impossible for a cat to swim the Atlantic'. He did more: as the title indicates, he linked Marx's critique of the market to the actual attempts of Soviet and Soviet-type economies to replace the market. He described how these economies were not, in fact, centrally planned despite continuous efforts to centrally plan them (which explained both how inefficiently they functioned, and why (despite that) they did function and didn't simply collapse like all actual centrally planned industrial economies have invariably done).
http://kenmacleod.blogspot.com/2...abbit-
hole.html
Manscaping.
.
Anyone know about the CTE Cyber Trust Global Root that I'm getting a security alert for?
my math SAT score was 'cheezburger'
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Terry, I thought you were from Canuckistan. Sorry.
mimi
Canuckistan?????
Charming.
Hello. What have I missed aside from mimi carrying on like Squeaky Fromm?
gwb:drf
Coke.
.
Like "mandals" or "manpurse". I can't remember.
watertiger | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 7:02 pm | #
manscaping.
GTE I mean
don't know what made me think of this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...related&
search=
well I don't do shit with it.
now I am depressed or maybe that is just the Becks talking.
Our day will come, fokowi!
now I am depressed or maybe that is just the Becks talking.
Nancy Willing
Quite all right.
I'm a bit depressed myself...and the mortgage thing doesn't help.
Canuckistan?????
Charming.
Lots of people here use that jokey epithet. Including those poutine-fucking Canucks.
don't know what made me think of this....
*
thanks
hits the spot
Manscaping IIRC.
THANK YOU!!!!
"Have you ever been with a woman with a heart shaped surge?"
now I am depressed or maybe that is just the Becks talking.
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 7:05 pm | #
welcome to my world.
except i drink better beer.
I've been catching up with three days of comments. Some real nice folks here.
gwb:drf
Manscaping IIRC.
THANK YOU!!!!
watertiger
way too many of us knew that.
!!!!!!!!
I love Becks' Buzz
Lots of people here use that jokey epithet. Including those poutine-fucking Canucks.
Yeah, that's just a term of endearment.
open upstairs
now I am depressed or maybe that is just the Becks talking.
Nancy Willing
marcellina.
pick up nancy first on your way here...
way too many of us knew that.
That's because we are sophisticated and worldly.
Or because we're just tired of being hairy.
I am a clinically depressed pessimist, bur I choose to be contrarian about it.
At least my fractured hip has healed. Doing PT three times a week and feeling pretty good.
gwb:drf
I love Becks' Buzz
Nancy Willing
well, ok, it's not really bad. at least it isn't budweiser.
Or because we're just tired of being hairy.
Toonscribe: UDFH Local 839 |
in my case, community theater.
pick up nancy first on your way here...
fokowi at lake cabin
*
I am packing for a sleepover!
In case some of you missed it:
sheets!
well, ok, it's not really bad. at least it isn't budweiser.
dirk gently
*
Bud is way too sweetishyerp
Doing PT three times a week and feeling pretty good.
Glad to hear it!
i can't read or write in 2 different languages...
fokowi at lake cabin
Bush can't even do those things in one language.
Mike Gravel called him a "mental midget" on Bill Maher's show last night.
i am feeling quite happy at the moment (wine always helps!)
bye for now
sheets and an apology above
The road to victory runs through Damascus, or Bethesda, Jakarta maybe, I know, SAIGON!
Greenspan's touting of ARM's happened before a congressional committee. Not one congress critter uttered a peep.
I'm a blue collar schmuck from nowhere and if I had been sitting on that committee I would have blown up at the old geezer for suggesting ARM"s were a good idea then, in 04. He knew that after 20 years of trending lower the probability of still lower long term rates was approximately zero.
In fact just the next year in 05 he was puzzled as to why long term rates were still so low after his long series of Fed Funds Target hikes was well underway. In other words he was trying to engineer somewhat higher long rates just a year after selling ARM's. Can you say conman?
If I were dictatator I'd have Al driving around poor urban areas, DC I suppose in an old pickup truck with a lawnmower and hedge trimmers trying to maintain abandoned foreclosed homes. 8 hours a day six days a week, at minimum wage. Bye bye Andrea, first class on the plane and sparkling dinner parties.
I tried to read these comments - Stupid! Face facts. Those who chose interest only loans, default! You have only been renting all along. Those who have a variable interest rate, u're screwed or gonna be! Refinance, or default! U have been screwed out of U're Principal but fuck it. Whatever you do don't declare bankrupsy, let the bank take the loss.
This may not sound like good advice but the more people who follow it the less amunition the lending institutions have to punnish U. Power to the masses. T he courts will not hold U responsible for debt given under false pretenses.
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