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Oh my, where are we headed?
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Scoop?
DELETE MY FUCKING ACCOUNT!
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Oh, and DAMN YOU, MER!
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I know. In the pocket of China.
Well, it was nice while it lasted.
mer |
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I need an incentive to read a new thread. Can someone give me a tax break?
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jac,

Rare these days. Barely can get a word in edgewise.
mer |
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Chinigroup now.
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Oh, morality. It's such a relative thing.
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listening to edwards talking about how most billionaires pay mostly the 15% tax rate on capital gains, therefore ending up with a lower tax rate than their secretaries
it's a shame he isn't doing better. i can only hope that the eventual democratic nominee will be talking about taxes and health care as clearly as he is
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01.12.08 - 4:15 pm | #
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The problem with Chinese investment is, 1 hour later and you need another $4 billion.
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Damn you Jac for damning Mer.
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What would Mickey Kaus say?
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The Sweet and Sour Siv Soup is particularly good.
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p o o p
Someone drive over here and take photos of my cats!
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Tacitus,
And the enemy is NOT who you think it is: it IS the media and those who are telling them what to report and how to report it. (If you already knew that, as you very well might of, never mind. )
DWD - 60 Minute Man |
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"Can someone give me a tax break?"
--George Johnston
Really. I have to send my 07 fourth quarter estimated tax in by the 15th. If it wasn't going to the present administration, I wouldn't mind so much.
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So we are to be owned by the Saudis and the Chinese.
Any thumper want to explain?
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Yes mer, this administration is using your money wisely. Ugh.
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The prince offered his condolences to the people of New York, but after the ceremony he released a statement suggesting the United States "must address some of the issues that led to such a criminal attack."
Never! We'll kill 'em all first!
USA! USA! USA!
BTW -- guess who reminded me, below, that Rain Man is on?
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TOO BIG TO FAIL.
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how most billionaires pay nothing after the 15% tax rate on capital gains is offset by their contributions to their own fucking charity
Fixed your accounts payable
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So we are to be owned by the Saudis and the Chinese.
Does this mean i'll have to wear a burka over my bound feet?
[/wingnut]
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What would Mickey Kaus say?
watertiger
He does it for the kids.
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Any thumper want to explain?
The only thumpers I know are the rabbit in Bambi and the devices that call sandworms to the surface of Arrakis.
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CFC's Tan Guy ought to be over Mexico now in the Corporate Lear Jet.
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Listen, last year was the first time I had to handle capital gains in my taxes, and I did it incorrectly - I dealt with them as regular income and calculated the tax appropriately. I was genuinely shocked when the IRS refigured and chastised me for not taking the damned 15% rate - and handed me back money. It is absolutely nuts that they are taxed at 15% - so you have the spectacle of unearned income being subject to little tax at all, and earned income, particularly that falling under the g-d alternative tax crap squeeze being taxed at higher levels.
What it is, is positively un-American. Right up there with insufficient taxation of inherited estates.
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Does this mean i'll have to wear a burka over my bound feet?
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He does it for the kids.
SteveNS, square
No one ever thinks of them.
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"Can someone give me a tax break?"
Yes. If you own a business, you may deduct bonuses of up to $20,000 per employee as a business expense.
You may also subtract up to $50,000 in interest income from your 1040 Schedule B.
- Only if I can get such bills passed by Congress
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My god..Straight talk on CNN speaking...randomly stumbling through a speech...His old man right arm shoulder hitch...
It's apparent his mind is going.
And every other word..my friends..my friends..
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Damn you mer!
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Stop Damning Mer, dammit!
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The extorted oil money is returning home.
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Arabia should be bombed back to the stone age.
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And the enemy is NOT who you think it is: it IS the media and those who are telling them what to report and how to report it. (If you already knew that, as you very well might of, never mind. )
DWD - 60 Minute Man | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 4:17 pm | #
you know i agree with you, dood - but i wonder who you were thinking that i thought the enemy was?
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Tacitus Voltaire |
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IguanaGuiliani has changed his mind, and will now cash the check.
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Holy Sheet..McCain is foulking bat sheet crazy.
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deadthreaded...
I'm back. I think I know what made me melancholic earlier. This morning, we went to the organic grocery store, and our 8-mo old daughter got her very first balloon. It absolutely thrilled her, which, for the benefit of the non-parents out there, is a wonderful thing to behold. But on the way home, I found myself recalling a balloon I was given, and the sadness I felt at seeing it float away in the sky. I think I was 3 when this happened. I guess I made a connection in my mind between a child’s balloon and bad things happening, and it depressed me to think that someday, bad things would happen to her.
Times like this, I wish the world was a very different place.
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Only Michigan is qualified to develop green energy solutions according to Son of Cain.
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dee is an excellent driver. Definitely an excellent driver.
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Holy Sheet..McCain is foulking bat sheet crazy.
Andy |
Its the tumor talking.
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I see that Guy who ran Countrywide is getting a $115 million pay off including pension.
Also, he will get free use of the company jet, and his country club fees paid for the nex 7 years.
Whish I could get that for screwing up a company.
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Only Michigan is qualified to develop green energy solutions according to Son of Cain.
Yes. And then South Carolina will be.
Uncle NTodd |
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How about calling "sheets" you shitheads?
res ipsa loquitur |
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McCain want more nuclear power. "It's clean and safe." And the Navy has never had an accident with a nuclear ship [[[[[[[[[thresher]]]]]]]]]
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Whish I could get that for screwing up a company.
I could easily screw up a company way worse, and for less money.
Uncle NTodd |
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Bush ran the country into the ground, and all we got was this f-king tee shirt.
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sheets were called.
i will attest to this.
although i do appreciate res' sentiment.
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Only Michigan is qualified to develop green energy solutions according to Son of Cain.
Snow, Liberal
Well, if they can make ethanol out of trees and electricity out of wind - I guess we are the next big thing. (But I would not bet any money on it.)
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How about calling "sheets" you shitheads?
Some shithead called "million dollar sheets," you fucking Princess.
Uncle NTodd |
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"How about calling "sheets" you shitheads?"
Or, one could pay attention.
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We have been sailing aircraft carrier powered by nuclear around the world for 60 years according to McCain.
I did not know that. That would be since 1947. Although the first one had its keel laid in 1957. Apparently it sailed 10 years before it had a keel.
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Some shithead called "million dollar sheets," you fucking Princess.
I was asking about your flu, Joy Boy.
res ipsa loquitur |
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sheets were called.
Maybe she killfiled me 
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I see that Guy who ran Countrywide is getting a $115 million pay off including pension.
Also, he will get free use of the company jet, and his country club fees paid for the nex 7 years.
They have to pay out that much.
Face it, without such obscene levels of compensation how will they ever be able to attract another fuckup of such high calibre in the future?
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The prince offered his condolences to the people of New York, but after the ceremony he released a statement suggesting the United States "must address some of the issues that led to such a criminal attack."
Nonsense. They hate us for our freedoms and our smaller oceans.
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Anyone else watching the pregame show on Fux? It looked like they broke the WGA strike by doing a comedy routine, itself an imitation of Letterman's Top 10.
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I was asking about your flu, Joy Boy.
Fever broke this morning, and the bonecracking coughing has been reduced to just throatshredding coughing. So I guess I'm on the road to recovery, thanks, Princess.
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one thing that has always amazed me was that was the american colonies were able to defeat the british empire.
i'm no history buff, but my understanding is they did it by relinquishing the archaic rules of european warfare and adopting the native "indians" tactics.
one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
it's all global now baby.
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They hate us for our tunnelss.
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"Bad date." /Sallah
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Some shithead called "million dollar sheets," you fucking Princess.
She actually more like a demigod than a princess. But what the fuck would you know, holed up in some fucking cabin in Vermont drinking fucking Nyquil and watching Matlock reruns?
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mccain is talking relatively more sense than romney since he also just called for action on combatting global warming, saying "if it does turn out that humans are making a significant contribution to global warming, what kind of a planet will we leave to our children if we don't start doing something about it now?"
his winger audience say on their hands for that one...
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Tacitus Voltaire |
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So I guess I'm on the road to recovery, thanks, Princess.
Glad to hear it, Pantless Wonder.
res ipsa loquitur |
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That money is not a loan, either. It's an "investment." Which means (probably; this has been noted elsewhere) ownership of stock.
Bad when it involves port security. Okay when it involves bailing out major US financial institutions which built their houses on sand.
Rmj, New Angst 4 New Year |
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"Maybe she killfiled me"
Did you give one of your patented remedial reading lessons?
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5 below zero at Green Bay.
gear |
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She actually more like a demigod than a princess.
Demigoddess. Demigoddess.
(Wonders if she can continue to wear a tiara with her LL Bean black watch plaid flannel bathrobe as a demigoddess.)
res ipsa loquitur |
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what the fuck would you know, holed up in some fucking cabin in Vermont drinking fucking Nyquil and watching Matlock reruns?
What's wrong with Matlock? Linda Purl was a hottie in season one.
Uncle NTodd |
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"mccain is talking relatively more sense than romney since he also just called for action on combatting global warming, saying "if it does turn out that humans are making a significant contribution to global warming"
The fact that he used the word "if" indicates he is making very little sense.
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What about Prince AllWeed?
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5 below zero at Green Bay.
I have to wonder if that's more comfortable than football in the pouring rain, a treat I experienced recently.
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Demigoddess. Demigoddess
Yeah, I thought of that, but it didn't scan.
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I have to wonder if that's more comfortable than football in the pouring rain, a treat I experienced recently.
Personally, I'd go with the -5.
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This from think progress.......
Global ‘enthusiasm’ for Bush’s departure. The 2008 U.S. elections are attracting an “eager” audience worldwide. This past week, for example, major British newspapers “devoted more than 87 pages to news of the U.S. primaries, including 22 front-page stories.” Much of the enthusiasm, according to the Washington Post, is for the end of the Bush presidency:
But much of the enthusiasm comes from anticipation of President Bush’s departure, according to several analysts. U.S. prestige and popularity in much of the world have sunk to historic lows since Bush took office, over such issues as the Iraq war and climate change. Many analysts said the election has created high expectations that the new president will be more in tune with the rest of the world.
“In many capitals people have been waiting for this change for some time,” said Rosa Balfour, a senior analyst at the European Policy Center, a Brussels-based research group.
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"I have to wonder if that's more comfortable than football in the pouring rain, a treat I experienced recently."
Cold is much worse.
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mccain is talking relatively more sense than romney since he also just called for action on combatting global warming
Paul talks about Iraq being an illegal war. Finding an acorn doesn't make a blind squirrel sighted.
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Jesus. I just realized that the kid I liked so much from "Little Miss Sunshine" (the brother who passed the note that said "Welcome to hell" at dinner) was in "There Will Be Blood."
Holy farking cow. That kid is great.
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The fact that he used the word "if" indicates he is making very little sense.
Econ 102 | 01.12.08 - 4:31 pm | #
give him a chance. he's trying to introduce reality to simians
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Tacitus Voltaire |
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financial institutions which built their houses on sand
Lots of sand in Saudi.
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What's wrong with Matlock?
You ever read thers' deconstruction of Matlock? It's a chapter in his Phd thesis, "Matlock Blows Chunks and I Like Bacon.".
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Personally, I'd go with the -5.
Yup. Wear a fucking hat and you can still see the game just fine without water dripping on your face and shit.
Uncle NTodd |
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Why don't you take the children down to the store and get them some dum dums to suck on.
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I've got to go slice potatoes. I'm in the Army now.
Plus, the fricking dishwasher died these afternoon. Don't know whether to buy a new one or wash by hand from now on.
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Is this woman on CNN a plant?
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Paul talks about Iraq being an illegal war. Finding an acorn doesn't make a blind squirrel sighted.
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i will take any utterance from a republican that isn't the full ginrich bullshit scripture as a sign of progress
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Tacitus Voltaire |
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yeah, you can put on a lot of gear to deal with -5, but if you get at all wet and its cold it is going to be teh suck.
res ipsa loquitur |
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The distribution of wealth is dictated by the heads of corporations, who also dictate to the gummint what taxes they should pay (corporate and individual)- if any.
They then obscenely and undeservedly overpay themselves and either refuse or underpay their tax obligations.
They then call this "capitalism" and anyone who objects to this feudal system is a "dirty fucking commie!"
Rudy |
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Paul Dano.
Such an odd face, but he's a heck of an actor.
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“In many capitals people have been waiting for this change for some time,” said Rosa Balfour, a senior analyst at the European Policy Center, a Brussels-based research group.
sally
Hey, it's possible that we can come up with someone who's even worse than Dumbya. Highly unlikely, but possible.
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Is this woman on CNN a plant?
leibniz, monadΩ
Does she have leaves?
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You ever read thers' deconstruction of Matlock? It's a chapter in his Phd thesis, "Matlock Blows Chunks and I Like Bacon.".
Yes, and then I wiped my ass with it. The rest of the committee disagreed with my assessment, particularly since I wasn't, uh...technically qualified to be on the committee being a drooling fucktard. But I do like bacon myself and have been known to partake on occassion.
Uncle NTodd |
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Paul Dano.
Such an odd face, but he's a heck of an actor.
I knew had seen that kid before, but I couldn't remember where. He is really terrific in the movie.
Did you see it yet?
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Does she have leaves?
Her bark is worse than her bite?
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They then obscenely and undeservedly overpay themselves and either refuse or underpay their tax obligations.
People need incentives to get into their Lear jets in the morning.
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yeah, you can put on a lot of gear to deal with -5
I've always preferred cold to heat. You can always add more layers and do other things to warm up. When it's too fucking hot, even when you're naked it just sucks, and not in the good way.
Uncle NTodd |
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Is today Super Bowl day?
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"give him a chance. he's trying to introduce reality to simians"
Did you see this? Harris Poll, 2002.
"Do you believe the theory that increased carbon dioxide and other gases released into the atmosphere will, if unchecked, lead to global warming and an increase in average temperatures?"
74% said "Yes."
Five years later, that declined to 71%.
Monkeys learn more as time progresses, not less. This isn't a matter of learning, it's about dealing with conditioned denial of science.
The science is far better and far more certain than 5 years ago, yet the average public perception becomes less convinced.
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Did you see it yet?
res ipsa loquitur
Nope.
Probably won't make it here for weeks, if not months.
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Hey, it's possible that we can come up with someone who's even worse than Dumbya. Highly unlikely, but possible.
Lime Rickey
What, like Huck?
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I guess I made a connection in my mind between a child’s balloon and bad things happening, and it depressed me to think that someday, bad things would happen to her.
Times like this, I wish the world was a very different place.
Bat Guano
Oh, to live on Sugar Mountain
With the barkers and the colored balloons,
You can't be twenty on Sugar Mountain
Though you're thinking that
you're leaving there too soon,
You're leaving there too soon.
it was a very touching story Bat. she'll be fine. we all want Nirvana, come to think of it, that ended badly too.
charley/ liberal sociopath |
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No, Hillary! People do not have to make payments on predatory loans sold through unconscionable practices. They don't. Rewrite the note, or tear it the fuck up.
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Is today Super Bowl day?
qlª
AS far as we Patriot fans are concerned it is!
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"The distribution of wealth is dictated by the heads of corporations, who also dictate to the gummint what taxes they should pay (corporate and individual)- if any."
The corporations, man.
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I've always preferred cold to heat. You can always add more layers and do other things to warm up. When it's too fucking hot, even when you're naked it just sucks, and not in the good way.
Tell me more about not like getting too hot.
-S. Freud.
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What about Prince AllWeed?
NSA
i think that one's from Doobye ...
focus, Misprisoned |
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Rewrite the note, or tear it the fuck up.
Jubilee - it's the Christian thing to do!
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What, like Huck?
sally
He's in the running for worser.
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Looks like the actual Green Bay temp is 23 with a wind chill of 9??
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Not having actually bothered to look at the global warming polls cited by you-know-who, I still suspect that a change of -3% would fall within the margins of error.
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What's wrong with Matlock?
You ever read thers' deconstruction of Matlock? It's a chapter in his Phd thesis, "Matlock Blows Chunks and I Like Bacon.".
leibniz, monadΩ
Years ago, at some Professional Development for Lawyers thing I had to attend, the speaker showed a clip from "Matlock" for comic relief after lunch.
We couldn't stop laughing at his courtroom "prowess."
Rmj, New Angst 4 New Year |
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The science is far better and far more certain than 5 years ago, yet the average public perception becomes less convinced.
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therefore, if the leading republican candidate stops denying it and tells his audience that we need to do something about it right away, that would be progress
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Tacitus Voltaire |
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"yeah, you can put on a lot of gear to deal with -5, but if you get at all wet and its cold it is going to be teh suck."
If you have a chance to be exposed to that kind of temperature, try the following.
Put on some long underwear, then cover yourself in hard plastic on the shoulders and on the head. Keep your hands exposed.
Now smack your hands repeatedly into hard surfaces, both on the palms and on the outside of the hand.
Rain is sloppy and messy, but it doesn't hurt.
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OK. I need to go out and get a sammich.
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Tell me more about not like getting too hot.
-S. Freud.
Ask Decon. He's a expert on just about goddamned everything.
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It looks ugly in Green Bay.
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We couldn't stop laughing at his courtroom "prowess."
Rmj
He's like a kindly grandpa, and what suspect could hope to withstand grandpa's avuncular grilling?
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"therefore, if the leading republican candidate stops denying it and tells his audience that we need to do something about it right away, that would be progress"
Well, it would be proof of the theory of evolution in a very localized way. Now when the Republican Candidates figure out that they have a thumb...
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Ever seen Curly, flossing?
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I was thinking the fans pov with the weather. who cares about the players, they are on drugs, anyway. they are not feeling a thing. /snark
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Turnover on first GB possession. Seattle ball on GB 1. Score.
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Ask Decon. He's a expert on just about goddamned everything.
je t'adore.
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Hell of a start for the Seachickens.
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therefore, if the leading republican candidate stops denying it and tells his audience that we need to do something about it right away, that would be progress
Not the leading candidate, but St Gingrich:
http://www.alternet.org/environm...ironment/72999/
"Q: How will global warming figure in the 2008 presidential election?
Newt Gingrich: Whoever wins will have a sound and realistic approach to climate change. Democrats have an advantage in developing solutions because their primary voters care more about the issue and because they are more comfortable dealing with environmental issues, which have been largely a liberal area of dialogue for the past generation. Republicans have to play catch-up in developing answers other than no.
Our research at American Solutions indicates that, by a very substantial margin, Americans prefer entrepreneurship to bureaucracy and innovation to litigation. The Republican nominee should be able to develop strong solutions to climate change that emphasize science, technology, innovation, and incentives. These will prove surprisingly popular compared with the tax increase-government control-bureaucracy and litigation model that has dominated for the past 30 years."
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Christy Hardin Smith says what I was saying earlier, but better and with more citations--that the MCMers are blaming the less well-educated, high school level women voters (and women in general, the emotionally movitvated unthinking women!) for their predictions (and unmitigaged glee) that Hillary would lose to Obama.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/1...g-wasnt-enough/
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"therefore, if the leading republican candidate stops denying it and tells his audience that we need to do something about it right away, that would be progress"
It would be, but the use of the word "if" indicates that he still chooses to tell his audience that the science is uncertain.
I understand what he's doing, and it's admirable to call for action, but it's cowardly to deny the science simply because some loudmouth like Rush Limbaugh has convinced millions of gullible people otherwise.
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He's like a kindly grandpa, and what suspect could hope to withstand grandpa's avuncular grilling?
SteveNS, square
He actually came off as Grandpa from the Simpsons. Less "kindly" and more "bull moose looney."
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Tell me more about not like getting too hot.
-S. Freud.
Ask Decon. He's a expert on just about goddamned everything.
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Put on long underwear and put a pot on your head. Smack your hands repeatedly.
Kissing is wet and sloppy, but I have to make a phone call.
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I just don't have the capability to really do scallops right.
*sigh*
That is all.
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SteveNS ...Where are you?
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Christy Hardin Smith says what I was saying earlier, but better and with more citations--that the MCMers are blaming the less well-educated, high school level women voters (and women in general, the emotionally movitvated unthinking women!) for their predictions (and unmitigaged glee) that Hillary would lose to Obama.
They're blaming everybody except themselves and the fact they had their heads so far up the "narrative" they couldn't see daylight.
Which comes back to the question: why do we even argue with these people?
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I've always preferred cold to heat.
That's not the comparison, Joy Boy.
We're talking football in -5 vs. football in the pouring rain (when it's cold, but not necessarily -5).
I think the latter sucks worse than the former.
Now about you being naked ...
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i still think we need a way to sperate policies from people and have an issues ballot so that people can tell the candidates what position on issues we want them to have
then we could seperate the hobbit-ness of DK from his policies which are probably favored by the majority of democrats
candidate's personalities are important, since we need a person in the office with the right character, but the issues get swallowed up and attached to personalities
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"I was thinking the fans pov with the weather. who cares about the players"
Right. My mistake. 
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I just don't have the capability to really do scallops right.
Have you tried asking them what they want?
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ANOTHER fumble!
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res -- Sydney, NS, Canada.
Not quite the end of the earth, but within shouting distance of it.
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GB turnover. Seattle ball.
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attaturk,
What kind of scallops? Bay or sea?
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Green Bay? Almost balmy--for Green Bay of yore.
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-...Green+Bay%
2C+WI
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I just don't have the capability to really do scallops right.
Have you tried asking them what they want?
watertiger
You know there's no reasoning with shellfish.
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still think we need a way to sperate policies from people and have an issues ballot so that people can tell the candidates what position on issues we want them to have
we sort of have that in the party platforms, and that's why it is so important that both Edwards and DK stick it out as candidates until the convention. Of course, getting the traitorous bushdoggers to support the platform after adopted is another matter. I mean, a nonchoicer as majority leader? BAH! Look what that's done for us.
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You know there's no reasoning with shellfish.
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If they weren't sho shellfish, they'd care about shomeone else for a change.
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I just don't have the capability to really do scallops right.
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dude, I can't find a recipe for chicken-mole that doesn't have peanut butter in it ... goddamn gringos
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attaturk -- really hot pan, cook 'em fast and not very long.
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What kind of scallops? Bay or sea?
res ipsa loquitur
Sea
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"We're talking football in -5 vs. football in the pouring rain (when it's cold, but not necessarily -5)."
If it's raining, then the temp is probably at least 40 degrees. Not a big deal, unless one is sitting the bench, but players have ponchos, seat warmers, and such now.
I'm surprised there isn't a Starbucks cart on the sidelines these days.
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when i worked for the army, i found out that the rush limbaugh listeners there (this was in the mid 90s) would actually snort in derision when i mentioned electric cars
now they have become policy, even with some republican politicians
y'all have to have faith that good policies based on reality will ultimately prevail, no matter what happens in 'politics'!
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I just don't have the capability to really do scallops right.
Have you tried asking them what they want?
Yeah. If you're not close enough to talk about sex, you're probably not close enough to be having it.
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If it's raining, then the temp is probably at least 40 degrees.
Yeah. It never rains between 33 and 39 degrees.
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attaturk -- really hot pan, cook 'em fast and not very long.
V for Virginia
Did that, in olive oil. Tried a seafood rub to soak in for a few hours.
They weren't bad, just not flavorful.
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Attaturk,
What V for Virginia said.
A little butter. Hot pan. They coo REALLY fast. Don't let 'em go too long or they'll be tough.
Squeez some lemon over 'em when they're done.
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You know there's no reasoning with shellfish.
Sometimes, they just want to cuttle.
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Scallops a la Brando
"Bring me the butter."
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Which comes back to the question: why do we even argue with these people?
Rmj, New Angst 4 New Year
because their constant idiotic prattle probably really does effect the process?
i never really dug howard dean, but i hope one of these candidates at some point has the temerity to address media reform.
and did i hear out the corner of my ear that there was a candidate advocating legalizing marijuana?
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