HULK SMASH!!!

Gravataraha


Gravataryo


GravatarThat must be tough sledding.


GravatarMakes a great hollerday gift for your blogging friends, and it's CHEAP!!!

(sorry)
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GravatarTurn it off.


GravatarMSM!


GravatarDoes Hayes still think that Saddam had wmds?


GravatarI'm wearing glasses and I just don't see that.


Gravatardt'd

blerb-- colour me skeptical, but if you can figure it out, great. I'm not opposed to any innovations that increased transit use... it's just strikes me as so complicated that it'd lose me.

I know the bus comes across the street from my house on the half hour. If I miss it, I can walk down to the transit station two blocks away and catch a bus every five minutes. Alternatively, I can walk over to the ferry terminal and catch the boat at the 15s and 45s.

If I can't find my socks and am unexpectedly running five minutes late, I'm not fucking up an entire bus run; I just catch the next one.


GravatarMCM


Gravatarlarry summers will save the economy


GravatarEsp Borger. She's a flaming liberal. No, she's not.


Gravatar(not to mention could keep Curly, LarryElvis and Jeffraham from sleeping under a bridge, come January)
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GravatarIn a just world, Blitzer would be cleaning the toilets at a teevee station.


GravatarTurn it off.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars


I refuse to have CNN on my teevee.


Gravatarwanky dooodle dandies


GravatarBlitzer would be cleaning the toilets at a teevee station

I've met Blitzer. He can't do it, my friends.


GravatarShirley, you jest.
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Gravataryo


GravatarThey sell it at ur store?

yes, at the moment (limited availability, in general).  it's 25.99/lb but it's so good.  rind and all.


GravatarU B funneee


GravatarTweety will be laughing inappropriately shortly.


GravatarI do have a tv, and I've tried to watch cnn. I never last more than five minutes watching those gasbags.


GravatarReally, I think the problem is that people commute too much. Instead of fucking around with buses and trains and highways and such, why not just live very close to where we work?


GravatarSpeaking of stores, there is a mini boycott of Whole Foods out here

I'm spitting mad about Whole Foods' latest, thuggish attempt to mess with Portland food retailer New Seasons. You may have read the Oregonian story or New Seasons' CEO Brian Rohter's post about the subpoena asking for proprietary and confidential business information. The subpoena sent to New Seasons is part of a screwed-up merger that Whole Foods has been trying to execute with rival Wild Oats for the past 18 months.

Apparently, Whole Foods thinks that New Seasons' weekly sales figures, internal emails, marketing strategies and studies about where to open stores are integral to proving their case that the merger won't create a monopoly. They promise that the information won't go beyond their lawyers, but this is the second time that Whole Foods has tried to get confidential information out of New Seasons. Last year, Whole Foods tried to get the same information and promised that only lawyers, consultants and top management would take a peek.


http://www.blueoregon.com/2008/1...hole- foods.html


GravatarHayes might tell us more about the Bush Legacy project that Rove is running out of the White House while punditing on the teevee.


GravatarIf the media is so liberally biased, how come conservatives are not demanding the reinstitution of the Fairness Doctrine to address this dire situation?

Bueller? Bueller?


GravatarWhere is Bill Bennett to balance this lot?!?


GravatarReally, I think the problem is that people commute too much. Instead of fucking around with buses and trains and highways and such, why not just live very close to where we work?

Well, that only works if you can find a job near your domicile, or can afford to live near your job.

Most people can't be that picky.


Gravatarwhy not just live very close to where we work?


people don't work for one company and retire with a gold watch anymore. Are we supposed to move every other year?


GravatarThis Snorg ad is giving me a lactation fetish...


GravatarRove working for Bush while being a pundit -- get Howie Kurtz on the case

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12...legacy-project/


GravatarHayes might tell us more about the Bush Legacy project that Rove is running out of the White House while punditing on the teevee.

You know, who gives a fuck about chimpy's "legacy" project.

It's gonna be EPIC FAIL like every other project he's ever tried.


Gravatarwhy not just live very close to where we work?

Ah, we've got people posting from Utopia again...


GravatarTweety will be laughing inappropriately shortly



HA


Gravatarpeople don't work for one company and retire with a gold watch anymore. Are we supposed to move every other year?

UR supposed to not be so flighty, changing jobs alla teh time U sillee liberal.



Gravatarwhy not just live very close to where we work?


people don't work for one company and retire with a gold watch anymore. Are we supposed to move every other year?
ErinPDX


It would be a revolutionary way of thinking about work. Instead of pursuing a "career", this would mean the type of job wouldn't matter, but the location to work would. The priority would be sustainability, not ego-gratification.


GravatarWhy work? Let's all live off of the land in Hawaii.


GravatarI wish I could just work from home and not commute at all.


GravatarAre we supposed to move every other year?

Well, most people don't live anywhere near ANY place of work, whether they stay there or not.

I think it's a reasonable thing, looking for a place to live near where you work. Obviously moving every year is a bit much...


Gravataroh brother


GravatarSell puka shell necklaces and eat fish and pineapple.


GravatarSleep on the beach.


I think I've convinced myself.


GravatarI think it's a reasonable thing, looking for a place to live near where you work. Obviously moving every year is a bit much...

In many areas it's out of people's budget.

U gotta work where the jobs are, even if they're in high rent districts.


Gravataroh sister.


GravatarI think it's a reasonable thing, looking for a place to live near where you work. Obviously moving every year is a bit much...


GravatarU gotta work where the jobs are, even if they're in high rent districts.

Well, that's what I was getting at: we should build cities differently-- mixed uses with affordable housing requirements.


GravatarI like what I do but I wouldn't live there.

however - I have septa...

it's all good, you know


Gravatarif i had a shitty blog of my own, i would post a picture of this soup, just out from under the broiler.


GravatarHell, I'm stuck in my house for the forseeable future now, because we would lose hella money if we tried to sell it.


Gravatar"Instead of fucking around with buses and trains and highways and such, why not just live very close to where we work?"
--Moe Szyslak, eiditer

From what I've read here and other sites, the closer into a city you live, the housing/rents are usually more expensive.


Gravatarwhy do those liberals on tv
want to pry away my SUV
just wanna drive in my bucket seat
on trains you never know who you'll meet
mexicans and criminals
and terrorists from arab lands
people who play music from
weird foreign bands
don' wanna rock to some casbah beat
want some Atrios whitey music
and my goddamn bucket seat


GravatarWell, that's what I was getting at: we should build cities differently-- mixed uses with affordable housing requirements.

It's a nice goal, but it won't change things in older cities like NYC and Boston.

I'm with you on the short commute thing. I live about 3 miles from my office.


Gravatardt
Whilst I was over to Christown this afternoon, buying Dog Chow and
assorted other Christmas items, I saw that the Light Rail cars were
being tested right across the street.  And, on the other side of the
street were some brand new apartment houses - pretty damned jazzy for
19th Avenue & Montebello.  Actually, quite evocative of 3rd Avenue
and Portland - and indicative of the ways that light rail is going to
change the way the town works.  (NB: I left 'work' at 5th Street &
Van Buren this morning - in the old Phoenix Union High School
repurposed for UA, and went thru the Roosevelt District.  It is
seriously dead kuhl!  I want to live there!   They have no private spas
or pools, but the new townhouses, repurposed historic houses and
apartments are just waaaaaaaaaay seriously nice.  I WANT.)


Gravatar"Instead of fucking around with buses and trains and highways and such, why not just live very close to where we work?"
--Moe Szyslak, eiditer


Work is the real problem. If we cut that out, we don't have to commute at all.


Gravatarthis last election cycle was a real eye opener for me, as usually the only news show i watched was keef.

but in my obamamania i started watching tweety and anderson and sometimes wolf and even the occassional sunday bobblehead. what a crew of fuckwits.

since the election i pretty much can't deal with any of them. wolf and anderson and tweety and rachel are all now off. the sole remaining one is keef, and frankly he's been getting on my nerves a lot lately, so he might be next to go.


GravatarSlanties. Bah.

I think it's a reasonable thing, looking for a place to live near where you work. Obviously moving every year is a bit much...

Ideally, Moe, yeah, I hear you. Mind you, I spent a decade being moved around on average about once a year, too, to Europe or Asia or Tacoma or Augusta or someplace, at my employer's expense, will allowances in time for getting settled in and everything.

I grew to loathe moving in that time. It went from being an adventure into being a tremendous pain in the ass.

The huge problem is that even within the context of being in one well defined metropolitan area, moving around is simply not a viable option for most who didn't have all the perks that I had in the military in regards to being relocated.

Hence the problem of not dwelling in the immediate vicinity of where you happen to be working.


GravatarLiving near where you work is very easy in Halifax. Five miles in any direction and you're in the sticks. In San Francisco, not so much.


Gravatar" I live about 3 miles from my office."

got ya beat. 4 stairs and i'm at work.


Gravatarsince the election i pretty much can't deal with any of them. wolf and anderson and tweety and rachel are all now off. the sole remaining one is keef, and frankly he's been getting on my nerves a lot lately, so he might be next to go.

Me too.

I'm finding I can't stand to listen to any of it now.


Gravatarms fahrenheit/stop the wars

Race (with out stretched hands) through fields of hemp, singing "We got to learn to live together."


GravatarBuilding mass transit systems and highways isn't easy either, nor cheap.


Gravatargot ya beat. 4 stairs and i'm at work.

bastard!!


GravatarHopefully, my solution will be that I find a job closer to where I live. There are biotech companies all over the Bay Area.


GravatarI walk to work every single day. About ten minutes each way.

We bought this place nearly twenty years ago. Ain't no way we could afford to do it now.

It burns me up that most of my colleagues have to commute from Indiana, a good thirty miles away. Teachers ought to be able to live in the community in which they teach.


GravatarWork is the real problem. If we cut that out, we don't have to commute at all.

Peasants in medieval Europe didn't have this problem.

Sailors at sea do not have this problem.


GravatarBuilding mass transit systems and highways isn't easy either, nor cheap.

Probably cheaper than rearranging whole cities.


sorry, being contrary tonight


GravatarRace (with out stretched hands) through fields of hemp, singing "We got to learn to live together."


Doesn't it sound nice? Welcome to my world.

Now if it was fucking real....


GravatarIt burns me up that most of my colleagues have to commute from Indiana, a good thirty miles away. Teachers ought to be able to live in the community in which they teach.

Yes.

And having a short commute is just so much better for your quality of life.


GravatarUR supposed to not be so flighty, changing jobs alla teh time U sillee liberal.


hee

actually, i've been here 6 yrs. turnover in development is typically only 2 so i'm an old timer!


GravatarI'm also trying to arrange my work so tha I can spend at least one day a week working at home.


GravatarAnyway, maybe it can't work, I don't know. But it seems to me that the nearly global availability of high-speed data networks and GPS positioning info must be able to improve the efficiency of mass transit somehow.
blerb | 12.04.08 - 6:58 pm |


You might want to let Dayton's public transit people know that. Yesterday they seemed to be very perplexed as to why 7 routes had multiple buses running very late.


Gravatargot ya beat. 4 stairs and i'm at work.

Hee.  I haz to go down the hall.


Gravatarjdw, you beat me. I've got 12 steps to my office. Unless I have to meet with clients (rarely now that the internets are in my office), the only place I drive is to the grocery store, and every week or so to meet friend for lunch (otherwise I would be a total hermit).


GravatarIt burns me up that most of my colleagues have to commute from Indiana, a good thirty miles away. Teachers ought to be able to live in the community in which they teach.

There are probably a good number of doctrinaire free marketeers in the UofC econ department who feel terrible about their lives of tenured, government funded splendor. If they were sent off to work the free market in corner pan-handling, their homes would be available for socialist teachers.


GravatarHopefully, my solution will be that I find a job closer to where I live. There are biotech companies all over the Bay Area.
blerb


some of them even have offshoots up here like in Hillsboro for instance.


GravatarAnd having a short commute is just so much better for your quality of life.
fourlegsgood, darksider


Some people are lucky enough to live within easy rail commute of the school (and there is good rail service out to some parts of Indiana from Hyde Park). But the train station is not well insulated against the elements. In Chicago, that's downright weird.


GravatarProbably cheaper than rearranging whole cities.

No, not if you look at *total* costs. Here, about 1/4 of the average income is spent on car commuting. Additional costs are communal-- very high health care costs (in Toronto, 8,000 people a year die from smog-related illnesses), lost productivity as people and goods get caught in traffic, loss of real estate that could be used for other purposes, etc.

A lot of that can be reduced through transit, but you can reduce far more by doing away with the commute. Sure, you can't do it overnight, but you know, these crazy commuter metropolises weren't build over night either.


GravatarWhen I both lived and worked in Berkeley, I either walked or rode my bike every single day, for 9 years. It was awesome. In fact, if I add up all of my short, carless commute years with the years I've been driving, it still averages out to not driving that much.


Gravatar"Instead of fucking around with buses and trains and highways and such, why not just live very close to where we work?"

there are still jobs in downtown areas, but fuck all if ya wanna live in the hellholes that can be.

i did the atrios-like urban living thing as a 20 something. it was fun, cool, had it charms.

it also had break-ins, homicides, drugs out the ass(looooved coming back to my yuppie rehabbed c. 1880 loft and finding junkies passed out on my porch), zero yard space, shitty unprotected parking, shitty services, yaddayaddayadda.


Gravatarmer, this soup is really good.

it's hard to be objective, but i think if i were served this at a restaurant, anywhere, i'd be pretty pleased.




GravatarSomehow, a pinon log snuck into my woodpile.  And, now - I am burning it.  Wonderful.  A great blessing.


Gravatarhttp://statestats.appspot.com/?q.../? q=pornography


Gravatar"Hee. I haz to go down the hall."

i was overlooking the converted bedroom/workroom across the hall from the bedroom, because i need to go downstairs to get coffee first.


GravatarWell, average person moves every seven years. Job security, meanwhile, is a thing of the past; most employment is at will.

Sure, nobody really likes a nice, refreshing commute to work. But between household movement and jobs coming and going, hard to avoid. And household movement is a process involving months of planning, if you're lucky; job might not last that long.

Further, some places are too expensive for many crucial support people to live in. Try being, say, a mail carrier for the Greenwich, Conn. post office and living where you work.

I'd guess commuting will be with us a while longer, whether we like it or not. Which most of us won't.


GravatarSomehow, a pinon log snuck into my woodpile. And, now - I am burning it. Wonderful. A great blessing.

[jealous]

I doan haz no fireplace.


GravatarThere are probably a good number of doctrinaire free marketeers in the UofC econ department who feel terrible about their lives of tenured, government funded splendor. If they were sent off to work the free market in corner pan-handling, their homes would be available for socialist teachers.
rootless-e, mysterious


I think you may be mistaken about your premise.

The free-marketeers are deliriously happy to see the rest of the world hungry, homeless and miserable, so long as they are comfortable.


GravatarAdding: the link is for search query popularity by state...

StateStats: Explore the popularity of search queries in U.S. states


Gravatar"... but the new townhouses, repurposed historic houses and apartments are just waaaaaaaaaay seriously nice. I WANT.)"

--GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian

Sounds nice. Are they affordable?


Gravatari was overlooking the converted bedroom/workroom across the hall from
the bedroom, because i need to go downstairs to get coffee first.


Arthur makes our morning coffee.  He brings me mine to my bedside.  He likes to have his on the patio and watch the sun rise.


Gravatar every week or so to meet friend for lunch (otherwise I would be a total hermit).

hermits unite!


GravatarI have both a fireplace and an enormous (like 4X20ft) woodpile of mostly oaken logs. Alas, burning them is starting to be severely frowned upon in my urban area.


GravatarI think my plan is best. Wake up on the beach and stand up.


GravatarSounds nice. Are they affordable?

Somewhere from $125k to $2mil. 


GravatarThe free-marketeers are deliriously happy to see the rest of the world hungry, homeless and miserable, so long as they are comfortable.
David Derbes, worried | 12.04.08 - 7:16 pm | #


How could that be? You'd think that Dr. Becker and friends would be positively ITCHING to hit the street and accumulate capital via free exchange and their own entrepreneurial spirit and spunky attitude instead of being imprisoned by the Oppressive State in Tenured Servitude.


GravatarYa know, all that supertrain, get rid of your cars, or at least don't buy any more for a while is so recessionary as being, perhaps, bad for America.

We are so fucked.


GravatarFuck it. Nobody hears what I'm saying. Even the good prof can only see the existing... I'll start drinking and making stupid jokes, k?


GravatarI find it curious that Republicans, many of whom exhorted citizens to "Buy American" when Detroit was producing its worst cars,are now ready to kiss American automakers goodbye.


GravatarI think my plan is best. Wake up on the beach and stand up.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars | 12.04.08 - 7:18 pm | #


By God, she's got it! But, please, not on the beach in Halifax. Sleet storms just don't do it for me.


GravatarAlas, burning them is starting to be severely frowned upon in my urban area.

?

howkumzat?


GravatarIf we all quit our jobs we wouldn't have to drive to work.


Gravatar"bastard!!"

there is a downside insofar as long as you are home, the line between home and work is pretty much gone....ya gotta watch that.


GravatarMay I mention that you all should buy feed for a teen in your life and read it first?


GravatarFuck it. Nobody hears what I'm saying. Even the good prof can only see
the existing... I'll start drinking and making stupid jokes, k?


Congratulations.  You have finally become a Canadian.


GravatarFuck it. Nobody hears what I'm saying. Even the good prof can only see the existing... I'll start drinking and making stupid jokes, k?
Moe Szyslak, eiditer | Homepage | 12.04.08 - 7:20 pm | #


No, I hear you, I just don't think it's realistic for a lot of people.


GravatarThe free-marketeers are deliriously happy to see the rest of the world hungry, homeless and miserable, so long as they are comfortable.

The assholes derive pleasure from the knowledge that others are in misery while they live in comfort.

They would not be nearly so comfortable if that were not true, in fact. It's half the comfort, knowing that others are suffering.


Gravatarjdw, it is sad that so many eastern cities have gone to shit like that.

But it does rain 365/yr here in Portland.


GravatarA lawyer told me in front of the judge that she sent me something December 1. I got it today and it was postmarked December 3.

Somebody is in big trouble.


GravatarHow could that be? You'd think that Dr. Becker and friends would be positively ITCHING to hit the street and accumulate capital via free exchange and their own entrepreneurial spirit and spunky attitude instead of being imprisoned by the Oppressive State in Tenured Servitude.
rootless-e, mysterious


Rootless-e, I think you just broke my snarkmeter.

(And what are the units of snark, anyway? Colberts? Stewarts? Garofalos?)


GravatarIf we all quit our jobs we wouldn't have to drive to work.
Gomez | 12.04.08 - 7:20 pm | #


and we could hang out at the mall!


GravatarMy most recent power bill, which includes the cost of electric heating, has more than doubled from the previous month.


Gravatar I think my plan is best. Wake up on the beach and stand up.

I'd support you in that ms fahrenheit.


Gravatarhttp://statestats.appspot.com/?q.../? q=pornography
mz


What that tells ya is who spells out the whole word when they're looking it up. Watch the contrast when you knock it down to "porn."


Gravatar"Arthur makes our morning coffee. He brings me mine to my bedside. "

damn. where do i gets me this 'arthur' you speak ofs?


GravatarSomehow, a pinon log snuck into my woodpile. And, now - I am burning it. Wonderful. A great blessing.

[jealous]

I doan haz no fireplace.
fourlegsgood, darksider | Homepage | 12.04.08 - 7:16 pm |


The apt that I think I'll be moving to has no fireplace. However, they landlords live next door and they have a fireplace. I've already told them I'll be over and I'll be making smores.


GravatarThere is nothing more exciting in the practice of law than catching the other side in a lie.


GravatarThe apt that I think I'll be moving to has no fireplace. However, they
landlords live next door and they have a fireplace. I've already told
them I'll be over and I'll be making smores.


It's probably only like $1500 to create a double sided fireplace.  Well worthwhile.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, I think you're kidding. Arthur haz nae opposable thumbs, nao does he?


Gravatar[trying to think of stupid jokes, comes up empty]

[drinks more beer]


GravatarGWPDA, I think you're kidding. Arthur haz nae opposable thumbs, nao does he?

No, but he can palm a serving tray as well as the next guy.


GravatarThere is nothing more exciting in the practice of law than catching the other side in a lie.
Gomez


falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus?


Gravatar

Been saying for months. We're seeing state commissions granting increases of 20, 40, 50 percent.


GravatarThe Spook Who Sat By The Door:
The Barack Obama Story

http://video.google.com/videopla...+by+the+door% 22


...all 'cept for the actual revolution.


GravatarThe apt that I think I'll be moving to has no fireplace. However, they
landlords live next door and they have a fireplace. I've already told
them I'll be over and I'll be making smores.

It's probably only like $1500 to create a double sided fireplace. Well worthwhile.

GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 12.04.08 - 7:24 pm | #


Sadly, this house was built after fireplaces were no longer the norm, have build a flue and that sort of thing, I would think. My landlords have one because a previous owner had it put in, back in the early 30's (house is from the 1890's).


GravatarTemp's going down to around 38 or so tonight.  I still refuse to turn on the heat.  I will however, close the windows and pull out another quilt.


GravatarThere is nothing more exciting in the practice of law than catching the other side in a lie.

Oh, yes there is. There's realizing that they didn't bother to Shepardize and relied upon an overturned case. I am telling you, it's as good a v good sex.


Gravatarand we could hang out at the mall!

for me that would be torture

hate. shopping.


Gravatarfalsus in uno, falsus in omnibus?
David Derbes, worried


Nah. I think her boobs are real.


GravatarI am so looking forward to 15% unemployment.

Rumor is that U of Chicago has lost 1.5 billion of its 6.5 billion endowment. Not as bad as Harvard's 22%, but not far from it, either.


GravatarI'd support you in that ms fahrenheit.

Excellent. I'm on my way to Maui.


Gravatar"half the comfort, knowing that others are suffering"

"jesus loves me this I know, 'cause I've got lots of dough"


Gravatar"Been saying for months. We're seeing state commissions granting increases of 20, 40, 50 percent."
--Hecate,

What does that mean? Increases in electric prices, or what?


GravatarWhat is this Shepard you speak of?


GravatarTemp's going down to around 38 or so tonight. I still refuse to turn on the heat. I will however, close the windows and pull out another quilt.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 12.04.08 - 7:27 pm | #




It's been well below normal here for the last month, and supposed to be even colder next week.

Al Gore is fat.


Gravatarhate. shopping.


Yeah, me too, but we could look for zombies and dig up the ice skating rink.


GravatarOh, yes there is. There's realizing that they didn't bother to
Shepardize and relied upon an overturned case. I am telling you, it's
as good a v good sex.


Good.  Not as good as determining the provenance of a single fact and pinning it to an individual who can be named, located and identified.  Thus, the Maitlands, 'C' and the Bureau of Trade.


GravatarWhat is this Shepard you speak of?

the lord does my shepards; i shall not want.


GravatarAl Gore is fat.

And he sighed and rolled his eyes at the ceiling...


Gravatar[drinks more beer]

No hookers? No blow?

Maple syrup, anyway?


GravatarThe high tomorrow in Pres. Obama's Neighborhood is 22 degrees.


Gravatarand we could hang out at the mall!

for me that would be torture

hate. shopping.
ErinPDX | 12.04.08 - 7:27 pm | #


But I thought that's why you lived so close to a mall?


GravatarIncreases in electric prices,

Yes. ur electric bill from ur electric co going up by 20 40 50 percent. Use less energy, pay more.


GravatarThere is nothing more exciting in the practice of law than catching the other side in a lie.
Gomez


Guess they don't know how to change the date on pitney bowes


GravatarDavid: Shepard's lets you see if a case you're citing is still good law, or has been overturned or compromised by more recent decisions.

A bummer if your case rests on something that you didn't know isn't relevant anymore.

EG: if you didn't Shepardize Newton's laws of motion, you wouldn't know they didn't apply to speeds close to that of light...


GravatarGuess they don't know how to change the date on pitney bowes

Well below the pay grade of the lawyers.


GravatarGuess they don't know how to change the date on pitney bowes
ErinPDX | 12.04.08 - 7:30 pm | #

Erin! That's illegal!


Gravatar Use less energy, pay more.

Love them invisible market forces!


GravatarOh, yes there is. There's realizing that they didn't bother to Shepardize and relied upon an overturned case. I am telling you, it's as good a v good sex.

Good. Not as good as determining the provenance of a single fact and pinning it to an individual who can be named, located and identified. Thus, the Maitlands, 'C' and the Bureau of Trade.


You folks have really, really horrible sex lives.


Gravatarthe "dirtball" pot i turned down earlier this week would look pretty good right about now.



GravatarTime to spa.  The moon, Jupiter and Venus are out already, waiting to be watched.


Gravatar"jdw, it is sad that so many eastern cities have gone to shit like that."

actually, it never *was* all that great, even back in the day.

i'm glad mr atrios is enjoying his urban living lifestyle. really.

but it's far from ideal for most people. in fact, even if the problems i cited were cleaned up you still have the major problem of decent schools. anyone that started building a family got the fuck out when kids hit school age because of bussing. this left only the people too poor to move and the young yuppie scum such as myself that also eventually left.

so you gotta improve so many things to make it habitable and it's just beyond what can reasonably be expected. it goes a lot deeper then trollies or fixing up old houses to make trendy new neighborhoods or building new condos.


GravatarWell. Looks like some of us stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...


GravatarAha. My bud Julia Keller coming up on The Newshour. Pulitzer winner. Still at the Tribune, but ...


GravatarMaui Wowie


Gravatarlegal schmegal


GravatarWe just got a 10.2% electricity rate hike this month. Glad I put all that money into CFL bulbs.

Oye vey.


GravatarFor over a decade I lived a 5-minute walk from the day gig - and could EASILY step out to go to the bank, post office, pharmacy, local market. Only drove on "special occasions" - tank of gas would last well over a month. It was great!
But then the goddamned UTNE Reader anointed my 'hood as one of the "10 Kewlest in TH USA," and bang!zoom! here come the forces of Yuppification. Rents have doubled, only folks I that that still live there are those that bought when the buying was cheap.


GravatarI'd support you in that ms fahrenheit.

Excellent. I'm on my way to Maui.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars | 12.04.08 - 7:28 pm | #


One of our researchers got engage. Her future husband lives most of the year on Maui. Needless to say, she would rather live on Maui than convince her new hubby to move to Dayton.


Gravatarpeeance freeance


GravatarMaui Wowie

Either weed from the Islands, or a pie with pinapple and Canadian bacon as a topping...


GravatarYou folks have really, really horrible sex lives.



I have v v v good sex, but sitting there and realizing that the other side bet everything on a case that's been overturned, that's . . . nice.


GravatarGuess they don't know how to change the date on pitney bowes

Answers to Interrogatories. Due the 1st or they waive all kinds of shit. Sent the third with three 42 cent stamps.

I will open it while being taped with a videocam.


GravatarOh, okay. Yes our electric bill went up 20% the first of October, I think. Then, I hear that because oil prices have come down they will reduce the cost by 6%. WTF?


Gravatarlawyers are weird.
not necessarily bad
but weird


GravatarI have v v v good sex, but sitting there and realizing that the other side bet everything on a case that's been overturned, that's . . . nice.
Hecate,


Yea, I know what you're saying. Strangely, my "good work experience" sounds a lot like GWPDA's, except all the people are living.


GravatarThen there's statute of limitations and proper service of a complaint..

Essay question I had in Mass. Practice went on forever with a hypothetical case, and asked how you'd advise your client. Turned out that he wasn't properly served. The advice, then, was to do nothing at all, keeping vewy, vewy quiet, as the statute of limitations ran out in a month. No reply, no nothing. The rest of the case was less important.

You'd think justice should be served on higher grounds than mechanics and procedure. Turns out to be important, time and time again...


GravatarBut I thought that's why you lived so close to a mall?
Buckeye ....


bought it for the location, good sized yard, and ability to make Moe happy someday when we infill with 3 more units.


GravatarNeedless to say, she would rather live on Maui than convince her new hubby to move to Dayton.
Buckeye .... | 12.04.08 - 7:32 pm | #


Who wouldn't want to live in Maui?


weed from the Islands,

Growing wild alongside the road.


GravatarThey just waived attorney-client privilege.

They are so fucked.


Gravatarand ability to make Moe happy someday when we infill with 3 more units.
ErinPDX


You're just sucking up.


GravatarWhat is this Shepard you speak of?

Oooh! Ooooh! Hire me! I can Shepard-ize all night long....


GravatarThey just waived attorney-client privilege.

They are so fucked.
Gomez | 12.04.08 - 7:36 pm | #


Hey I saw Michael Clayton - better check under your car for explosives.


GravatarGomez: really? Thought the word would hve gotten around...


GravatarOh, okay. Yes our electric bill went up 20% the first of October, I think. Then, I hear that because oil prices have come down they will reduce the cost by 6%. WTF?
mer | 12.04.08 - 7:34 pm | #


That's what our gas supplier did, raised the prices during the summer when everything was sky high, and now that prices have dropped, swear they'll pass on the savings to us.


GravatarI'm watching Tweets do his no nuance badgering. Equally awful, or worse.
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GravatarThe best part is the other lawyer lied in front of the judge about sending it.

Hee hee.


GravatarI can Shepard-ize all night long....

Heh, I can "Shepardize by hand," meaning using the books rather than Lexis. Did my whole law review article that way. U kidz and ur punch a button on Lexis.


GravatarI'm watching Tweets do his no nuance badgering. Equally awful, or worse.
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Sparkle Plenty


I can't watch Matthews.


GravatarThe best part is the other lawyer lied in front of the judge about sending it.

Hee hee.
Gomez


You could turn the other cheek and forgive them.


GravatarHey I saw Michael Clayton - better check under your car for explosives.
rootless-e, mysterious


Hell they could just come to my office and pop me.

I'm still at work.


GravatarLying like that is just dumb. But people do it anyway.

People should know better often. It's fairly common, for instance, for a doc to alter a medical record after the fact in a bad case. Everyone knows that's a dumb thing to do; close to a guaranteed settlement. But they think they can get away with it...


GravatarBut I thought that's why you lived so close to a mall?
Buckeye ....

bought it for the location, good sized yard, and ability to make Moe happy someday when we infill with 3 more units.
ErinPDX | 12.04.08 - 7:36 pm |


But the mall is only five minutes away!

My aunt and uncle lived in suburban San Diego, about a 7 minute walk to a mall.

It actually wasn't as bad as I'd thought it would be, neighborhood/noise wise.


GravatarOh, okay. Yes our electric bill went up 20% the first of October, I think. Then, I hear that because oil prices have come down they will reduce the cost by 6%. WTF?
mer


er, probably not much of your electricity is generated by oil.

Most places, coal makes up most of the fuel, and prices have gone up considerably, and haven't come down. Six percent probably just reflects the reduction in transport costs for the coal.


GravatarGomez

Somewhere a paralegal is about to get blamed.


Gravatarhowkumzat?

stoat


Air quality.


GravatarIs Bush just drunk all the time now?


GravatarYou could turn the other cheek and forgive them.
trifecta


Divorce case.


GravatarIs Bush just drunk all the time now?
Cookie Fleck '08


Yes.

This has been another in a series...


GravatarGomez

Somewhere a paralegal is about to get blamed.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


I'm treating the ebvelope like a crime scene.

I have yet to see what date was put on the document inside.


GravatarMoe, You're probably right, living in the TVA and all that.


GravatarLou Dobbs is suddenly horrified that the average Mexican citizen has to deal with the drug cartels.

Feel free to move to Mexico, Lou, apply for citizenship and run for office to set the object of your obsession straight.

You can do it Lou!


Gravatarmy experience in courts was that both the clients and lawyers for big big firms are often totally convinced that the immense wealth of their corp is sufficient and that they don't actually have to be too careful about process.


GravatarHecate: now, I've never worked in a law office. But I can tell you that if a doc blames a nurse unjustly, he (usually a he) reaps the whirlwind. Doesn't stop some people, but you do not want the nurses to think you're a jerk. I can't imagine having paralegals feel unjustly maligned is a Good Thing to a practicing lawyer...


GravatarWhen I fuck up I take the blame myself.


GravatarWasn't Blitzer one of Santa's reindeer?


GravatarWhereas "Your Honor, it's our fault. I don't know how it happened, but we got it out two days late and that's wrong and we'll gladly give Mr Gomez five extra days to respond," will usually save ur ass.


GravatarYou're just sucking up.
Moe Szyslak, eiditer

Yes, but it's the actual reason we bought the place. Infill, baby!


GravatarMoe, You're probably right, living in the TVA and all that.
mer


Ah, there's a lot of nuclear and hydro 'round those parts. I have no idea how much, tho, percentage wise.

But anymore it doesn't much matter-- they sell the nuclear off three states over, use the coal for the locals...


GravatarThis is why I drive every day to the post office at 5:30 and deposit the mail myself.

I see it go in. I know it was sent.


Gravatarbut you do not want the nurses to think you're a jerk. I can't imagine having paralegals feel unjustly maligned is a Good Thing to a practicing lawyer...

This is sad to say, but paralegals are, not a dime a dozen, but easily replaced. I've seen some slime lawyers blame some v good paralegals for some bad stuff.


GravatarU kidz and ur punch a button on Lexis.

We were taught both ways, and I actually preferred sitting in a musty reading room with a mountain of books around me, pretending to be Atticus Finch's young understudy. (The caveat being that most public/university libraries don't have the necessary materials, so it's much easier to do at home while wearing jammies at 4 in the morning...)


Gravatarshit.  younger daughter just got a call from the director of 'diary of anne frank,' for which she had auditioned.  director told her she gave "by far" the best audition and the "most beautiful" interpretation, but she found a sister combination she preferred.

she's mad.  i don't blame her.  i'm mad too.

she'll work out some of the anger on the 'broadway review' she's directing this year (having "invented" it last year). 

such a disappointment, though. 


GravatarI see it go in. I know it was sent.
Gomez | 12.04.08 - 7:45 pm | #


Bet that if they humble themselves to the judge, blame the paralegal while "taking responsibility", and ask for forgiveness, the judge will buy it.


GravatarThis is why I drive every day to the post office at 5:30 and deposit the mail myself.

I see it go in. I know it was sent.


I have never done that, ever, in my life. Difference between big firm life and other practices.


GravatarIts the simple things that trip you up.


GravatarMust we talk about law so much?


Gravatarrootless: the procedural stuff is behind the scenes, usually taken care of by juniors. But every lawyer's trained to watch out for statute of limitations issues, problems with service and so on, and they'll catch them. If they don't assert the issue, they lose the right to do so sometimes; they'll usually err on the side of extgreme caution. Missing a SOL deadline is straightforward legal malpractice until proven otherwise.


GravatarThis is sad to say, but paralegals are, not a dime a dozen, but easily replaced. I've seen some slime lawyers blame some v good paralegals for some bad stuff.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 12.04.08 - 7:46 pm | #


Wombat probably sees unionized nurses.


GravatarGomez-- if it's that important why don't you send it registered?


GravatarAir quality.

fuck 'em.


GravatarBet that if they humble themselves to the judge, blame the paralegal while "taking responsibility", and ask for forgiveness, the judge will buy it

Yes. Unless you're a repeat offender in front of that particular judge. No one gets disbarred for one instance of serving stuff a day late. Now lying to the judge, that will get you disbarred so fast your head will spin.


GravatarI move for a bad court thingy


GravatarGomez-- if it's that important why don't you send it registered?
Moe Szyslak, eiditer


I do that a lot. But if all I want to do is prove sending I use a certificate of mailing. Its cheaper.


Gravatarsuch a disappointment, though.

stoat | 12.04.08 - 7:46 pm |


I feel for your daughter. But directors have to envision the entire production. It's hard for them, too, when they can't cast their dream actors because they don't fit with the rest of the available choices for the cast.
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Gravatarstoat

Well that completely sucks. I can turn the director into a newt if u like


GravatarDamn stoat, I would rather hear that they had a better audition by someone than you gave "by far" the best audition and the "most beautiful" interpretation, ...

I hate to hear I'm the best and then not chosen. Sounds fishy to me.


Gravatarthis sort of commentary should be done a regular basis...analysis of consv vs liberals should be measured against your view vs the village's view...it would be interesting to see whos considered liberal and who's considered a hack in atrios' mind


GravatarI've seen some slime lawyers blame some v good paralegals for some bad stuff.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Or their secretaries.


GravatarMust we talk about law so much?
Cookie Fleck '08


Its more a discussion of ethics and office procedure.


GravatarI've had the same secretary for 20 years.

But I still do a lot of typing and envelope stuffing myself. This happens in a small one lawyer practice.


Gravatarin other words it is not emphasized enough the way liberals feel about how the MSM chooses voices to supposedly represent them. You've got Maddow, and thats it...and she's not even that good...its media consolidation stupid!


Gravatarbill buckner

I admit that it felt more like "real law" to me to do it by hand. And lexis shepards is actually shit for the agency that I practice before, wrong as often as it's right. But it's generally not malpractice as long as I've hit the Shepards button on Lexis. I am still appalled at the number of young lawyers who find a case for me and when I say, "Did you Shepardize this?" go, "Ummm . . . ." Don't bring me the case if you didn't Shepardize it; it's useless to me


GravatarYou'd think justice should be served on higher grounds than mechanics and procedure. Turns out to be important, time and time again...

yes, it's tiresome in general that rules get applied at the edges. But that's the nature of rules.

I wish there were some way to reset contracts, though. The "boilerplate" makes it impossible for normal people to work their way through to the actual content.


Gravatarit would be interesting to see whos considered liberal and who's considered a hack in atrios' mind
scott



We do that all the time here.


GravatarSo talk about something else. We'll listen. It's actually fairly rare for lawyers to talk shop on this board, even to each other.


GravatarOh noes.

Soon there will be no more puppy cam.


GravatarBut I still do a lot of typing and envelope stuffing myself. This happens in a small one lawyer practice.

My SO's dad had a practice like that. Maybe you'll be paid in potatoes like he was some day . . . soon.
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GravatarWombat

speaking as a retired ccrn ( twenty years' worth) we didn't think some docs were jerks. we knew who the jerks were.

two times in twenty years a jerk doc tried to dump on me. i won't go into details, but instead simply focus on outcomes.

in the first instance, the jerk was a cardiothoracic res who got canned 12 hours after the incident. fortunately the patient survived, thanks to me and standing orders for a blood balance sheet.

the second was an attending who was ripped a new one by the cccos after the emergency was over. the asshole held a grudge for the longest time, but when you refuse to answer page after page after page you only have yourself to blame. again the patient survived, thanks to the nursing staff and a wonderful cccos.

ANY doc who thinks does not think of nurses as indispensable friends and allies has his head up his ass, end of story.


Gravatarterry, i was a lil more specific in my complaint the next time around


GravatarI've seen some slime lawyers blame some v good paralegals for some bad stuff.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Or their secretaries.


I depend on my secretary too much.


GravatarI go to the county law library for real research. We have a good one. I Shepardize by hand. I look upon it as looking at the reviews of a case and its sequels.


GravatarMissing a SOL deadline is straightforward legal malpractice until proven otherwise.

Red Sox fans can't read lines like this without thinking mournfully about Carlton Fisk.


GravatarBarney Frank, line of the day:

"Having lived with this very right wing Republican group that runs the House most of the time, the notion of trying to deal with them as if we could be post-partisan gives me post-partisan depression," Frank said.


Gravatarjay: a lot of contracts are written by a big, powerful entity, like a corporation, and given to a weaker entity, like a consumer, to sign or not, no negotiation, no changes. Most consumers don't get a lawyer's advice when signing, say, an installment purchase contract; you can bet the business did...


GravatarSo talk about something else. We'll listen.

You shot down the "end the commute" idea lickity split.


GravatarAfter securing the Chambliss landslide in Georgia, there's no doubt Sarah Palin is a political superstar.


GravatarBut directors have to envision the entire production. It's hard for
them, too, when they can't cast their dream actors because they don't
fit with the rest of the available choices for the cast.


i remember a passage by annie dillard where she describes writing a passage that comes from one particularly beautiful line that came to her, and when it was all written that one beautiful passage had to go.  it didn't work. 

she's a great kid and i hope she feels all her anger and disappointment, then goes on to the next thing and does something even better.




GravatarYes prof, that is what I kinda meant.


GravatarSo bloggers, and "liberals" need to do a better and more consistent job of making the case that most people perceieved as liberal in MSM aren't...they're starting to listen...someone needs to do an expose about this hackery, really expose all the fakes


GravatarAfter securing the Chambliss landslide in Georgia, there's no doubt Sarah Palin is a political superst

Hence the RNC "Not more than 30,000 dollars in accessories release."

They're terrified of her.


GravatarMoe, the one time in my life where I had the ability to move to my job I purposely found a place only 1.5 miles away. Most would do the same if they could.


GravatarAfter securing the Chambliss landslide in Georgia, there's no doubt Sarah Palin is a political superstar.
wil


Who told you that, jack?

Rush? O'Reilly? Hannity?

Honestly - you should try thinking for yourself for once.

(rolls eyes)


Gravatarlickity split


Good topic Moe!


Gravatarstoat

It's wonderful that you're not telling her "don't feel mad." Esp as an actress, she needs to feel those feelings, remember them, be able to mine them later. How would she have played this role differently if she'd had access to these feelings at the time? One of the best ballerinas that I ever knew told me about using her own rejections that way.


GravatarAfter securing the Chambliss landslide in Georgia, there's no doubt Sarah Palin is a political superstar.
wil


I agree. She needs to form an exploratory committee and get that MILF ass of hers to Iowa pronto.


GravatarKidnap: all that, and the fact that in many special units, like ICUs, the residents learn far more of their trade from nurses than attending physicians.

Nurses are actually fairly easy to get along with. You do your work, the nurse does hers/his, you work together. Nurses are grateful for any doc behaving as if they're equals, without condescenscion. Helps if you aren't sexist. And they'll help you and the patient any way they can, if you give them half a chance. It's why they went into the profession.


Gravatar'Post partisan depression'

Love it...


Gravatarand get that MILF ass of hers

Nope. No sexism here.


GravatarTime for COUNTDOWN!


GravatarShe needs to form an exploratory committee and get that MILF ass of hers to Iowa pronto.

Actually, she's more a of a NIWNFNMW*...

(*Nazi I Would Never Fuck No Matter What)


GravatarNo sexism here.

Palin gets what she deserves.


GravatarErin-- I was never suggesting that everyone everywhere immediately find a place to live next to their place of work.

Rather, I was suggesting that the old idea, 60 years in the making, that the perfect world would have everyone living in a suburb, should be replaced with a different ideal, where people live very close to where they work. Of course it can't happen overnight, or anywhere near completely, or even mostly. But if it's seen as the ideal, then a little progress can be made, maybe.

So fucking crucify me.


GravatarDinner Sheets


GravatarDamn stoat, I would rather hear that they had a better audition by
someone than you gave "by far" the best audition and the "most
beautiful" interpretation, ...  I hate to hear I'm the best and then not chosen. Sounds fishy to me.


me, too.   we were just texting back and forth, so that's all i know.

on the other hand, she was there for the auditions and saw the other performers.  she said there was a young girl who was quite inexperienced but "absolutely adorable" according to hallie.  i suspect that's who will be anne.

monday is her seventeenth birthday and we'll have our traditional birthday dinner together and i'll hear what she has to say. 

she'll be okay, but this is a bitter pill after not being permitted to audition for "liaisons dangereuses" because there's nudity in the production.  fucking a... a community theater in annapolis needs nudity (male, i think) in its production?




Gravatarshe's a great kid and i hope she feels all her anger and disappointment, then goes on to the next thing and does something even better.

stoat | 12.04.08 - 7:58 pm | #


There is an excellent book by Michael Shurtleff called 'Audition' - probably old news to most theater types. He gives a great summary of why being the best at an audition may or may not have anything to do with being cast. I'm not even in "the biz" but found it fascinating.


Gravatarstoat -- she's a great kid and i hope she feels all her anger and disappointment, then goes on to the next thing and does something even better.

Well, she already gotten a great review, even though she didn't get the part.

Allison Janney is just one terrific actor who has talked about not getting roles because she didn't fit physically.

Sometimes an actor can be really strong and the director doesn't have anyone strong enough to match in necessary roles.

My daughter has a friend we've watched become an incredibly versatile actor. She's beautiful but a bit tiny for her distractingly lovely chest.

She can do anything, but comedy auditions are where she has the most success. Or old ladies. But she's very savvy about assessing her strengths and casting assumptions and works to counter the obvious.

I never thought about the career of acting and all the self evaluation it takes before some of the conversations we've had with her.
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GravatarNope. No sexism here.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Those poolside pics of her gave me a special feeling. That feeling is non-partisan.


Gravatarall that, and the fact that in many special units, like ICUs, the residents learn far more of their trade from nurses than attending physicians.



i wouldn't know, since i've not been through an internship or residency, but yes, a lot of learning goes on within the units. this is why every nurse dreads july 1 when the new rotations start. there is little that frustrates a nurse more than a newbie who will not listen and just HAS to figure it out on his own while the patient crumps.


Gravatarshe feels all her anger and disappointment, then goes on to the next thing and does something even better.

A drummer friend of mine got booted from a semi-popular local band a few years before they got big. Took him to a "car show" with him specifically so he could meet Pete Best - "Oh man, without your example, I'd never had made it..."


Gravatarand get that MILF ass of hers

Er, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!


GravatarSo fucking crucify me.

So sue me, sue me
What can you do me?
I - love - you!


GravatarEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Her "appeal" on that level completely escapes me.


GravatarPalin gets what she deserves.

No woman deserves sexism. Just as no African American deserves racism. There are a whole lot of reasons why Alan Keyes should never get elected. The fact that he's black isn't one of them. Palin should never hold national office; turning her into a sex object isn't the way to prevent that.

And your comment is waaaaaaay too close to "Bitch was asking for it."


GravatarJeez. I remember July 1, being called 'Dr. Wombat' by people actually asking me to, y'know, care for patients. I took help from anywhere I could get it. Absolutely scared to death.

Never quite got over that. The first five minutes of even the simplest operation were an exercise in being a bit surprised and a lot relieved that I knew what to do and could handle it with my knowledge and skill set. I could never assume that as a given.


Gravatari bet you were great, prof


GravatarKidnap: wound up in the highly unsustainable position of taking all the blame when things went wrong, and no credit when things went well. I had my good days, and good years, and made my share of mistakes.

I recall one day, after a colon and a gallbladder, turning to the OR nurse and saying, 'Isn't it extraordinary that we can come to work and pretend this is just an average day, putting these people to sleep and rummaging around their insides?'


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