I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
ok.
who dat?
Second?
I'll take it..
Bah.
Nora Jones?
no mer?
I am so depressed.
Simels, Did you ever review Peter Wolf's "Sleepless"?
I am so depressed.
sidhra صي
why so?
Kind of a lost day for me, sleeping off last night's tired from flying, then getting up and flying again.
So, what's the news of the day?
Did NToddler cross the Mississippi yet?
Don't you tell me how to 'on' mister.
That said, the clip reminds me of Margo Timmins' opening quip at the start of a Cowboy Junkies show:
[softly] "Are you ready to rock?.... Then you've come to the wrong place."
nice choice...
sidhra - sorry to hear that...
Leibniz, you have to settle for me.
Sorry, sidhra. Be well.
Simels, Did you ever review Peter Wolf's "Sleepless"?
TinyPorcelainMouse
Probably -- don't remember, but I could look it up.
Any particular reason?
cheer up, it'll only get worse.
http://despair.com/index.html
Sallyh: I'd much rather be in San Diego right now. Are you out of the smoke down there?
I'm so sorry, sidhra. My thoughts are with you.
Did NToddler cross the Mississippi yet?
Yup!
Norah Jones sounds like she's channeling Randy Newman.
Yup!
NTodd, Super Grand Poomba
Go East, young man
baba, oh yeah. Long ways south.
Norah Jones sounds like she's channeling Randy Newman.
Left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot....
Yup!
NTodd, Super Grand Poomba
Deke Slayton has a bike museum?
There's something I never would have guessed.
NToddler, you're east of the Mississippi and E still hasn't killed you? LOL
Good! It's Friday night and the apocalypse is unfolding so where is this Whore of Babylon and where is she gettin her groove on? If it's going to all go to hell in a hand basket, let's at least show it the door in style!
When you get to Canton, look up my old Navy buddy Correll. Kind of a heavy set guy with a mustache. Lives near the Hall of Fame.
NToddler, you're east of the Mississippi and E still hasn't killed you? LOL
Nor castrated me or threatened to hitchhike back home, though Neppy has intervened as a buffer sometimes in the car.
Norah Jones sounds like she's channeling Randy Newman.
Left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot....
Red-head Lady
Reaching For An Apple...
Goodnight, Peaceniks. Great day hanging with Medium Ouzo (can't call him little anymore. He's 15!) Be good.
100 points if you can ID all the Original Seven without cheating. I did, though I spaced for a moment and swapped the middle and upper right at first.
Sheppard, Grissom, Glenn, Schirrah, Carpenter, Cooper, and Slayton (no fly).
I'll forgo the points for a nice cheeseburger instead.
why so?
Norah says it, somewhat, but I'm more and more convinced that not one single one of the people standing for office cares one tit about anything but power and is willing to use any and all means to acquire the funds to buy it. I ain't sending five bucks in for a chance to sit in Mile High to listen to a bunch of bullshit.
I'm sure someone will note my concern. But really, I hoped for better.
I'll forgo the points for a nice cheeseburger instead.
ID their pics on the Life cover!
I ain't sending five bucks in for a chance to sit in Mile High to listen to a bunch of bullshit.
Mile High was razed. Now it's Invesco Field.
I'm thinking that doesn't help.
And Deke DID fly! Eventually.
Much to do tomorrow - sleep peacefully and well, 'bats.
Time to go sailing, sidhra? Let the wind blow some of the bad air out?
Was just thinking about the intertwining themes in the last thread... potential conflict of interest in research and the pharmaceutical industry, in conjunction with the death of a soldier by what can only be described as criminal negligence with profit as the underlying motive, and I remembered this quote from FDR: "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we now know that it is bad economics."
....
Let the wind blow some of the bad air out?
The Dems are gonna need a full force gale to lift them up again.
OTOH, they have the blowing well-covered.
U.S. among most Bible-literate nations: poll
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Americans are among the world's most 'Bible-literate' people and Spaniards, French and Italians are among the most ignorant about what the "good book" says, according to a new study released on Monday.
A poll carried out in nine countries -- the United States, Britain, Germany, France, the Netherlands, Russia, Italy, Spain and Poland -- also showed Americans were most willing to donate money to spread the message of the Bible.
Deke flew the Apollo Soyuz Test Project.
ID their pics on the Life cover!
NTodd, Super Grand Poomba
Oh, can't just do em from memmory, well let me look again....
Schirrah, Sheppard
Glenn, Carpenter, Slayton
Cooper, Grissom
I don't think I can do the wives cover
Failures in "Understanding the Client" from the NASCAR world:
NASCAR’s BAM Racing team has presented Barack Obama’s presidential campaign with a potential sponsorship deal in the Sprint Cup series later this year, but it doesn’t look like an Obama car will be burning rubber on the track anytime soon.
[snip]
BAM’s choice of drivers and car brands might have been a little too sticky politically for the Obama camp.
The car, a Toyota — the only foreign automaker racing in NASCAR — would be driven by veteran Ken Schrader.
According to the Federal Election Commission’s Web site, Schrader gave $1,000 to the campaign of North Carolina Republican congressman Robin Hayes in June 2004, and a total of $2,500 in 2003 and 2004 to the failed Virginia congressional campaign of Republican Kevin Triplett, a former NASCAR official.
Also according to the FEC, Mrs. Ann Schrader of Concord, N.C. and Ken Schrader Racing donated a total of $2,000 to President Bush’s campaign in May 2004 and $900 to the North Carolina Republican Executive Committee in August 2004.
OTOH, they have the blowing well-covered.
I thought it was that giant sucking sound.
And Deke DID fly! Eventually.
NTodd, Super Grand Poomba
Yes, eventually.
But not solo.
The Dems are gonna need a full force gale to lift them up again.
JeffCO
It's to clear your own head. What the Dems are up to can be forgotten for a time, so you can renew.
grrr.. tags
Asked if they had read a phrase from the Bible in the past 12 months, 75 percents of American respondents said yes, while between 20 percent and 38 percent of respondents in the other eight countries said yes.
Latest fave: AUTOMATIC - Monster
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It's to clear your own head. What the Dems are up to can be forgotten for a time, so you can renew.
baba durag
Amen.
Schirrah, Sheppard
Glenn, Carpenter, Slayton
Cooper, Grissom
Cheeseburger to you!
I don't think I can do the wives cover
None of them look enough like their counterparts in Right Stuff for me!
I thought it was that giant sucking sound. Sallyh
To the south? I think that's coming from Mexico.
Results were similar when respondents were asked if they had read a book with a religious theme in the past 12 months. Fifty-eight percent of Americans said yes. Poland was second with 50 percent and the other countries came in between 22 and 35 percent.
The poll, taken by the GFK-Eurisko research group, showed Americans prayed the most (87 percent) and the French the least (49 percent).
May the wind take you troubles away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R...h?
v=RcKqNZKoEzQ
I don't think I can do the wives cover
Is that Billy Bob Thornton in the bottom left hand corner?
Time to go sailing, sidhra? Let the wind blow some of the bad air out?
baba durag
There's a happy thought. The Upsi Yacht Club's luxury vessel, all 16 feet nine inches of her, has been in drydock for four weeks while I race a killer deadline. One more long working weekend to go, and then it's sailing or mutiny.
Son Volt?
BTW, I think the wives are in the same order as their husbands...
I'm sure someone will note my concern. But really, I hoped for better.
sidhra
hope is good. walls will fall. Kucinich got mentioned on the national news. fuck Denver - you have your own town around you right now ... but what do I know? anyway for just now sidrah, if it's too serious you have my sympathies and could have my ear, i wouldn't presume though, but if it's just the blues...
sometimes this really, crazily, and helps - they were just gonna walk away
I don't think I can do the wives cover
None of them look enough like their counterparts in Right Stuff for me!
NTodd, Super Grand Poomba
But I'd just bet Life put the wives in the corresponding positions of the dudes.
And the only first name I can remember is Annie Glenn.
The poll, taken by the GFK-Eurisko research group, showed Americans prayed the most (87 percent) and the French the least (49 percent).
...understandable. The French don't have the Chimp as their leader...
It's to clear your own head. What the Dems are up to can be forgotten for a time, so you can renew. baba durag
I think we need to sit on our own star and dream of the way that we were and the way that we were meant to be.
Barry owes me a coke...
Shit, just lost my cheeseburger by having to buy NTodd a fizzy.
Almost forget. Both Ouzos are going to kill NTodd!
And with that, I gotta pop a melatonin and hit the sack. Our bodies are so confused, we have no clue what timezone we're in...
The '98 Yankees were kinda good too, they put up 114 in teh win column.
Hee, I agree with ya about they way they laid out Dekes pressure suit, I've seen a lot of space suits, but never displayed like that.
One more long working weekend to go, and then it's sailing or mutiny.
Upsidasium
I've got to put away the coffee maker, unhook the power and dsl, and slip away quietly.
Da best.
Annie Glenn.
She got killed first in "Halloween"
'night, all
Not to mention Steppenwolf's Monster.
Americans, Britons, Dutch, Germans, Spaniards, Poles and Russian tended to pray "with my own words" whereas Italians and French tended to recite prayers they had memorized.
Germany and the Netherlands had the highest percentage of respondents who said they believed the Bible was not divinely inspired but just "an ancient book made up of legends, historical facts and teachings written by man".
The majority of respondents in all countries believed it was either the direct word of God or inspired by God.
Bob Herbert's direct about Phil Gramm and John McCain tonight:
In the real world, somewhere outside of Phil Gramm’s field of vision, increasing numbers of Americans are working two and three jobs to make ends meet; struggling families are worried sick in July about what it will cost to heat their homes in January; food costs and home foreclosures are soaring; the job market has tanked; and the stock markets are running with the bears.
In that kind of atmosphere, it’s beyond obscene to have to listen to some platinum-card-carrying fat cat tell us, in a tone dripping with condescension: “You’ve heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession.”
...The Democrats, timid as always, should be pounding the populist pavement from one coast to another, explaining how the reckless and deliberately inequitable policies of the past several years have gotten the U.S. into this terrible fix.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/
1......herbert.html? hp
Asked if they had read a phrase from the Bible in the past 12 months, 75 percents of American respondents said yes
Were they asked to repeat it? Otherwise, they were lying.
Warning: If you stay logged on for over 3 hours your IP will be banned and you cannot listen every again.
And this guy says he was a Marine Colonel?
90% got 20% of Psalms 23 correct.
I think we need to sit on our own star and dream of the way that we were and the way that we were meant to be.
JeffCO
psund upne upne
Not to mention Steppenwolf's Monster.
I told you not to mention it.
Asked if they had read a phrase from the Bible in the past 12 months, 75 percents of American respondents said yes
There is a guy who shows up at sports events, always shows me a sign to let me know what part of the bible I read last. I know you have seen him, but he keeps calling me John for some reason.
She got killed first in "Halloween"
TinyPorcelainMouse
It always happens to the one who puts out.
jesus wept
The spirit was freedom and justice And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose And it just sits there watchin'
Our cities have turned into jungles And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business 'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching
Asked if they had read a phrase from the Bible in the past 12 months, 75 percents of American respondents said yes
I believe "WHAT THE FUCK!" was in Leviticus 20:12.
He maketh me lay down in green pastures amongst the ticks and chiggars.
It always happens to the one who puts out. -Willendorf Venus
not-Jenna, nooOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
That YouTube-y goodness is just not loading up for me. And it was actually something I wanted to hear.
"Comment A:
So far the guy is turning out to be pro-spying, pro-gun, pro-death penalty in non-homicide cases, and an even bigger pro-Likud hawk than Hillary Clinton.
A liberal like me should be excited to send him money why, exactly?
Comment B, in response:
Health Care
Iraq
Education
College Affordability
Economy
Disability Issues (I'm deaf, and I would suffer under a McCain administration)
Environment
Global Warming
Family Leave
Global Market Competition
Highway Infrastructure
Mass Transit
Quality of Life"
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blog...-to-
barack.html
90% got 20% of Psalms 23 correct.
Good Lord, it's Alan Shepard - see what he wants.
jesus wept
Atrios
But he got his cracker back!
jeebuz is weeping uncontrollably... i mean if there truly was a jeebuz
I believe "WHAT THE FUCK!" was in Leviticus 20:12.
Thou shalt not be a shelfish lover, for it is an abomination.
I believe "WHAT THE FUCK!" was in Leviticus 20:12.
watertiger
[heads briskly to bookshelf]
"I'm not normally a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman!"
Jesus was a crybaby.
Thou shalt not be a shelfish lover, for it is an abomination.
okay, that took me a second.
"The Democrats, timid as always, should be pounding the populist pavement from one coast to another, explaining how the reckless and deliberately inequitable policies of the past several years have gotten the U.S. into this terrible fix."
well, dems should be pounding this, but are keeping their powder dry for the big election day, nov. 5th.
Jesus was a crybaby.
Willendorf Venus | 07.12.08 - 12:45 am | #
he was picked on alot for his long hair in school
Bring me my hasenfeffer!
I believe "WHAT THE FUCK!" was in Leviticus 20:12.
watertiger
I think "Go Fuck Yourself" was in the book of Cheney, chapter 1-24-04
Poland had the highest percentage of those who said they attended religious services regularly (91 percent), followed by the United States with 77 percent and Russia with 75 percent.
Jesus was a crybaby.
Willendorf Venus
He never met Phil Graham.
And though the past has its share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But its protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey...
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
"Obama raised more than $30 million in June: campaign"
http://www.reuters.com/article/
n...133432920080711
Good Lord, it's Alan Shepard - see what he wants.
JeffCO
Alan Shepard did not piss into his suit before his Mercury launch.
Well, maybe he did. But why should some, OK alot of urine detract from his heroicness?
And this guy says he was a Marine Colonel?
Maybe it's time to ask the NPRC-MPR to verify his rank and service.
"followed by the United States with 77 percent "
no.fucking.way.
By this point, everyone with a modicum of reason understands our terrible fix and understands who is responsible.
Problem is, not everybody believes that anything can or will be done about it.
Maybe it's time to ask the NPRC-MPR to verify his rank and service.
montag
I've asked him about 15 times now for his Marine OQR.
damn it, Jesus cried for Willendorf Venus ...
okay, that took me a second.
A man shall not lie to another man about his tax plan, for it is an abomination.
The Democrats, timid as always, should be pounding the populist pavement from one coast to another, explaining how the reckless and deliberately inequitable policies of the past several years have gotten the U.S. into this terrible fix.
Which is why I had to tell my local dem organizers I couldn't spend time on the phone pushing Tom Allen, who's voted right, but articulated nothing. They asked me what I could do for the party. I said give money, I suppose, but I don't have any. They said use your credit card. I left. All this was disturbing.
Well, maybe he did. But why should some, OK alot of urine detract from his heroicness?
LEAVE JOHN MCCAIN ALONE!
[wonders if Jay Ackroyd is lurking and can tell me what we saved that file as]
But why should some, OK alot of urine detract from his heroicness?
According to Toby it doesn't one bit.
Even Satan can quote the Bible.
All work and no play, etc.
If 'ol Ed was a Marine Colonel, then I am a Eurotrotting supermodel/engineer.
All this was disturbing. sidhra
Life is sad, life is a bust
All you can do is do what you must
You do what you must do, and you do it well
I'll do it for you, honey baby can't you tell?
damn it, Jesus cried for Willendorf Venus ...
focus
Who rolled her eyes and said, "Man up, beeyotch"
U.S. posts $50.7 bln June budget surplus
http://www.reuters.com/article/
p...T00938620080711
I am a Eurotrotting supermodel/engineer.
Trying laying off the mueslix.
Well, maybe he did. But why should some, OK alot of urine detract from his heroicness?
MP
A pilot died and went to heaven. (yea, I know, not plausable) St. Peter shows him to his own private airport, where there is every kind of plane imaginable, just for his use.
Well, the pilot flies all the planes of his dreams for hours on end, but finally needs a drink.
St. Peter is there, and leads him to a bar, where every pilot ever is there, all waiting to talk to him. The dead pilot has a few beers, and talks to the Wrights, Lindbergh, all the Giants of aviation.
But the beer gets to him and he eventually has to piss. So, he asks St. Peter where is the bathroom.
St. Pete leads him out, and across the clouds, to a hole in the clouds and says, "They all just piss here."
The pilot looks down and sees people below, "How can I piss on those people?"
St. Peter says, "It's OK, they are from the FAA."
Even Satan can quote the Bible. -
spocko
Consider the Lilies ...
Buckets of love to ya, Jeffco!
Goodnight, all. Sorry for the blues.
Trying laying off the mueslix.
i'd be more worried if she were a globetrotter. That could be dangerous.
"Man up, beeyotch"
Man up? Try Man Over.
U.S. posts $50.7 bln June budget surplus
I am quite sure this happened the same way the ex financed his love nest. By not paying selected bills for a few months.
psund upne upne = to each his own
If 'ol Ed was a Marine Colonel, then I am a Eurotrotting supermodel/engineer.
Willendorf Venus
On what cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition?
If 'ol Ed was a Marine Colonel, then I am a Eurotrotting supermodel/engineer.
Willendorf Venus
...you need to say that in Babelfish French to be more believable...
[/snark]
On what cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition?
Barry from AK
The front. Duh.
Goodnight, all. Sorry for the blues. sidhra
No worries - we've all had the blues, the reds and the pinks,
and one thing's for sure....
The front. Duh.
Willendorf Venus
{{{asks Watertiger if I can borrow here desk for some head knocking...}}}}
The Hebrew Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer caused today's bank failure !All the IndyMac employees who lost out in part due to comments from that great Dumbocrap Senator in NY - Chuck Schumer a complete idiot who because of his position on the Senate banking committee felt like he needed to give his two cents of input to the OTS.
Here's a quick lesson for an uninformed Senator who is obviously on a committee he has no business being a part of, Mr. Schumer, financial markets are built entirely on confidence!! Sending letters to regulatory agencies expressing your "concern" are of absolutely no help to the situation. It may make you feel "important" but you've just seen the manifestation of the unintended consequences of your actions.
Do everyone a favor, keep your hook nosed claptrap shut and let the regulators like the OTS do their jobs (they don't tell you how to do yours). I think you have enough in NY to keep you busy - so try to focus on that....Let the people with real brains and no lobbyists in their pockets do their jobs!
Reminded me..
Jesus, the Missing Years
Would it be too much to ask that someone who self identifies as a supermodel actually have at least one superpower?
No worries - we've all had the blues, the reds and the pinks,
and one thing's for sure....
Love is somewhat pungent, in an unpleasant way.
I've asked him about 15 times now for his Marine OQR.
Have a middle name or middle initial for him?
Please, wt, say, "Knock yourself out!"
When the aliens come and they say, "Take us to your leader, who do they go to? Cheney or Bush?
Imagine the conversation.
"We have crossed the vast distances of interstellar space to contact other intelligent life. We have monitored your communications for 10 years now and have determined that you are the leader of the most powerful force on your planet.
We would like to share knowledge with your in exchange for some of your natural resources.
Bush: You can't have our oil!
Alien: Why do you think we want your oil? Isn't that the hyrdrocarbon that is choking your planet right now?
Bush: No it's not!
Alien: But surely you can observe the results of your burning of hydocarbons vs a cleaner fuel.
Bush: Don't tell me what to do. I'm the decider! You are the ILLEGAL alien! I could kill you where you stand!
Alien turns to other alien. "Are you sure this is the leader?" Other alien. "I believe the bald one called Chaney is the true leader."
Alien: Could you please direct us to the real leader.
Bush: I AM the real leader! I AM, I AM! I AMMMMM!
auggiesback | 07.12.08 - 12:59 am |
Who knew that Auggy was an anti-semitic fuckwit? I mean, the fuckwit part was well-known to all. I must have missed the anti-semitism.
Er . . .
Knock yourself out!
A bientot.
Don't y'all ever get tired of me and my sockpuppets? You do realize I'm the majority of trolls around here, don't you?
Would it be too much to ask that someone who self identifies as a supermodel actually have at least one superpower?
How long was Christie with Billy? That had to be some kind of super patience.
Who knew that Auggy was an anti-semitic fuckwit?
Should we tell him Schumer's not here? He's weird enough, already.
Have a middle name or middle initial for him?
montag
Not yet a full first name, nor middle initial.
But I'm poking thru the Hale geanology, going on his reference yesterday that Capt. Nathan Hale was his Great,5 times grandfather.
I'm thinking he's on the nephew Nathan's side...
Merci, la belle tigre de l'eau.
Bush: I AM the real leader! I AM, I AM! I AMMMMM!
spocko
And then Kang ate Dubya.
Go to sleep kiddies.
J'en ai besoin.
going on his reference yesterday that Capt. Nathan Hale was his Great,5 times grandfather
I'd bet that's smoke, Barry.
Do everyone a favor, keep your hook nosed claptrap shut and let the regulators like the OTS do their jobs (they don't tell you how to do yours). I think you have enough in NY to keep you busy - so try to focus on that....Let the people with real brains and no lobbyists in their pockets do their jobs!
Ah, so Auggie's an anti-Semite and a moron (funny how the two go together).
Schumer may be no prize, but he had nothing to do with the collapse of the bank--that was the fault of the bank's management. And the closing of the bank is the doing of the Board of Bank Examiners for that region, you incredible nincompoop.
Here, this'll shake off the funk. In a showstopping sort of way.
On what cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition?
Barry from AK
The front. Duh.
Willendorf Venus
Thanks to you kind folks for helping me clear the work detritus from my alleged mind.
It took decades for the aristocratic right to regain the power they lost during the original Depression, and they've thrown it away in less then one decade, however hopeless it may seem at the moment. Darkest before the dawn, and all that.
Night, bats...
I'd bet that's smoke, Barry.
baba durag
It is.
According to Edward Everett Hale, who wrote the history of the family during revolutionary times, Nathan was 21 when he was hanged, and unmarried.
So, I asked Ed if he would admit to lying, or did he just admit to being the offspring of some bastard?
He hasn't responded.
fair winds, Upsidasium.
If there are any pols directly responsible for the banking fiasco, think it might just possibly be one whose family goes back *several generations* in international banking?
Bugs drove me off the deck. Rockin to Lonnie Mack's 'Strike like Lighting', with Stevie Ray on Git.
If there are any pols directly responsible for the banking fiasco, think it might just possibly be one whose family goes back *several generations* in international banking?
JeffCO
Sorry, I would like to identify the Grahams but I can't see em for the Bushes.
Who knew that Auggy was an anti-semitic fuckwit?
auggiesprick & chiliqueen are the same fax-bot. nothing more.
I'll bet you've already tried tracking him through the website registration. Nothing else is coming to mind right now, though.
Schumer is a hooked nose, bagel eating idiot and has no right to hold sway on a banking committee ! He helped cause today's collapse of IndyMac and thats THE FACTS.
Those are some of my favorite SF books, First Contact with real aliens. How would the president of 1947 vs 67 vs. 87 vs. 2007 respond to the same alien?
33
Harry S. Truman April 12, 1945 - January 20, 1953
36
Lyndon Johnson November 22, 1963 - January 20, 1969
Ronald Reagan January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
43
George W. Bush January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
Schumer is a hooked nose, bagel eating idiot and has no right to hold sway on a banking committee ! He helped cause today's collapse of IndyMac and thats THE FACTS.
THE FACTS are that you're a bigoted mental defective. You prove it every time you show up.
I have had that little monkey installed down there for a while. I think it is time for the script now.
I'll bet you've already tried tracking him through the website registration. Nothing else is coming to mind right now, though.
baba durag
I've caught "glimpses" of his web registrations before he takes em private.
Hee, he still has one that is available on WHOIS, but we already know his address and phone number, the dummy keeps posting it when he's begging for money or callers to his radio show.
Actually, I grew up with the 1960's US space travellers as my heroes.
Not John Wayne, really.
People who spend several years digging under and weakening the foundations of the US banking system in order to loot it = patriots and heroes
People who are walking by when it collapses = goddam pinko traitors who caused it
Oh, and *smooches* to WV. For this if nothing else:
The front. Duh.
Willendorf Venus
Those are some of my favorite SF books, First Contact with real aliens. How would the president of 1947 vs 67 vs. 87 vs. 2007 respond to the same alien?
33
Harry S. Truman April 12, 1945 - January 20, 1953
36
Lyndon Johnson November 22, 1963 - January 20, 1969
Ronald Reagan January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
43
George W. Bush January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
spocko
3 outta 4 would have had it on a BBQ spit.
33
Harry S. Truman - would give 'em hell
36
Lyndon Johnson - would pick them up by the ears and if they didn't have ears would show them his appendectomy scar.
Ronald Reagan - would make them watch King's Row repeatedly
43
George W. Bush - Would bring them peeance and freeance
Those are some of my favorite SF books, First Contact with real aliens. How would the president of 1947 vs 67 vs. 87 vs. 2007 respond to the same alien?
Is that alien T'Pol? If so, I have a pretty good idea.
MWAH right back atcha
BartCop has been right for years.
BartCop has been right for years.
1Watt
But was a lefty up until 9/11
How would the president of 1947 vs 67 vs. 87 vs. 2007 respond to the same alien?
...
spocko
...I'm thinking that the latter two would fulfill Klaatu's warning from "The Day The Earth Stood Still"...
I think that the President's that we had the best chance of having a decent exchange with Aliens would be Carter, but the right wing would undermine him and try to kill the aliens. The Aliens would then defend themselves and unleash a vicious return attack.
Carter would be blamed or trying to negotiate with them.
I have had that little monkey installed down there for a while. I think it is time for the script now.
Sadly, it fails to prevent people cutting and pasting their idiotic screeds over and over again.
Hagel is going to Iraq with Obama. How cool is that?
I like the episodes of The Outer Limits where they mess with our expectations of aliens base on our own "understanding" of intelligent life.
Hagel is going to Iraq with Obama. How cool is that?
T4TN
But... but... but....
St. McCain knows where the cheap sunglasses are.
Sadly, it fails to prevent people cutting and pasting their idiotic screeds over and over again.
JeffCO
...which is why I've never bothered installing it...
Whatever happened to the President elected every 20 years dying in office? Boy did that curse peter out at the wrong time!
1840 ... William Henry Harrison
1860 ... Abraham Lincoln
1880 ... James A. Garfield
1900 ... William McKinley
1920 ... Warren G. Harding
1940 ... Franklin D. Roosevelt
1960 ... John F. Kennedy
But was a lefty up until 9/11
Willendorf Venus
Can't fault the dude for being right. I'm leaning anarchists.
Schumer is a hooked nose, bagel eating idiot and has no right to hold sway on a banking committee ! He helped cause today's collapse of IndyMac and thats THE FACTS.
auggiesback
I like bagels.
I like falafel. (loofa is too chewey)
Your point?
St. McCain knows where the cheap sunglasses are.
Joe Lieberman may sob a little.
80% blockage is better than none. I love killfile.
80% blockage is better than none.
Trolls = cholesterol, and not the good kind.
Can't fault the dude for being right. I'm leaning anarchists.
1Watt
I don't fault the dood. It was a bad joke.
Li'l Petey Beinert was on McLaughlin claiming some buzz about an Obama/Gore ticket.
Hagel is going to Iraq with Obama. How cool is that?
Sorry, Hagel's a one-trick pony for Dems, that he's made some noises about the war.
I've never trusted him since finding out about his various associations with ES&S and about some of the changes in Nebraska law that made it almost impossible to audit elections when Nebraska, as a state, adopted ES&S machines.
And, then, once elected, he lied on his disclosure forms about it.
The guy's not to be trusted.
Bah hahaha auggie you wouldn't know the facts if they hit you in the nose.
80% blockage is better than none.
Are you talking about Auggie's urethra again, cause if you are, I'm gonna leave.
JeffCO: do you have an issue with me tonight?
I recommend a mental health break to sidhra, and you come on like I'm advocating giving up.
Someone wants to install killfile. I agree with you that it doesn't work perfectly, but I still find it helpful, and you shoot that down too.
Did I pee in your cornflakes?
Are you talking about Auggie's urethra again, cause if you are, I'm gonna leave.
More like in his carotid arteries....
More like in his carotid arteries....
montag
I prefer his urethra, cause I don't want to see it breed.
Schirra and Stafford were in a Gemini capsule whose launch rocket misfired. Went about a foot up, then tuckered out for no apparent reason.
Those guys were up there not knowing if the fuel would ignite like a bomb suddenly.
That happended in Russia.
Schirra, as commander, could haved launched the escape rocket on the capsule, to get them the fuck out of there.
But the launch vehicle unbelievevably sat itself back down on the pad, and the crew came out the way they came in.
Few know about that mishap on the pad.
JeffCO: do you have an issue with me tonight?
No idea wtf you're talking about.
Are you talking about Auggie's urethra again, cause if you are, I'm gonna leave.
Barry from AK in Miami |
studies show that manual simulation of the prostate promotes urine flow, since auggie has his head up his ass I conclude that he cannot be full of piss, therefor he is full of shit.
In the urethra then, Barry. But realistically - wherever it'll hurt the most.
I prefer his urethra, cause I don't want to see it breed.
Barry from AK in Miami
...now that's a brutal brainworm right at bedtime...
I'll bet it must have been devastating for the cocksuckers at Newsweek to publish their latest poll showing Obama's slipping numbers.
The guy is tanking.
JeffCo, what did you do with my issue of Me! tonight? I swear I left it in the bathroom.
No idea wtf you're talking about.
JeffCO
My apologies, then. Having a bad day myself.
Sorry.
I still find it helpful
So do I. Baba sucks cock in hell and doesn't even know I'm saying it.
More Ed Hale, just cause its gonna make me beat the heck out of Watertiger's desk so I can buy her a new one:
"Dang I just got one heck of a idea. Why don't we make a newsletter . I talked to my wife at lunch and she said she could do it. She will make the newsletter, send it to me in .pdf file, I can upload it to the web site, you guys can then click on it and download it, print it and take it to all the coffee shops, restaurants and other places where people hang out. If you have a idea you would like to see in the newsletter, which will be called "No Obama Reporter", click on post a comment and send them to me. Write up a article and we might publish it. Be sure to include your 1st name, and the city and state your are in. My wife will rewrite it so none of that will be given away. Think about all the million of people who will read this and then they will be talking about it. This weekend get you a package of yellow paper ( yellow represents caution and people will not throw it away) and bottle of color ink. Ed"
Color ink comes in one bottle. Hell, HP has been ripping me off for bunches of colors, I'm pissed.
Here's the problem with this for Ed.. His supporters are mostly Social Security folks, not a lot of cash. (every fund raiser he's done has come up way short).
But has anyone ever looked at the cost of printing up on a home computer a full color page? It's not cheap.
This has written up all over it --- FAIL.
My apologies, then. Having a bad day myself.
Dude, remind yourself: at least I'm not Toby.
Makes a nothing day suddenly seem worthwhile.
JeffCo, what did you do with my issue of Me! tonight? I swear I left it in the bathroom.
Thers
heh. guilty.
What do you suppose accts for BHO's freefall? The lies? The multiple renegings?
Done.
Sorry. baba durag
I've mostly just been quoting random song lyrics. I didn't notice you had even mentioned killfile. I use it liberally, but as I said, it doesn't help when people just quote the trolls in their entirety anyway, as though it's necessary to see what they wrote a 2nd or 3rd time.
Schirra and Stafford were in a Gemini capsule whose launch rocket misfired. Went about a foot up, then tuckered out for no apparent reason.
Those guys were up there not knowing if the fuel would ignite like a bomb suddenly.
That happended in Russia.
Schirra, as commander, could haved launched the escape rocket on the capsule, to get them the fuck out of there.
But the launch vehicle unbelievevably sat itself back down on the pad, and the crew came out the way they came in.
Few know about that mishap on the pad.
MP
WRONG, on so many counts.
Every NASA rocket is held down, and the latches aren't released until the telemetry from the engines looks right.
They had a bad fuel pressure sensor, and the on board logic shut things down.
At the Cape.
Believe me when JeffCO has a problem with you, you'll notice.
One time he punned a troll so hard the Heritage Foundation felt it!
Say, Thersites, are you accompanying Atrios to Austin next week as his body man?
And I know a thing or three about cocksucking in a tank.
Schirra, as commander, could haved launched the escape rocket on the capsule, to get them the fuck out of there.
Geimini capsules didn't have escape rockets attached.
They had ejection seats.
JeffCo, what did you do with my issue of Me! tonight? I swear I left it in the bathroom. Thers
Lay off the one-armd pushups d00d!
But has anyone ever looked at the cost of printing up on a home computer a full color page? It's not cheap.
This has written up all over it --- FAIL.
One thing's for sure--Ed's got zip experience in organizing. I imagine he thinks this is what grassroots organizing is all about, but, that's mostly ego thinking for him....
One time he punned a troll so hard the Heritage Foundation felt it!
Spocko |
That had to hurt.
Poor namestealer. A victim of bad timing, if nothing else.
I've mostly just been quoting random song lyrics.
Yeah, well, cool off, Kid Kilowatt.
Dream on Toby...Obama will not lose to Insane McCain...never!
I just want to know how (according to the nutters) Newsweek was a biased LW rag when Obama's numbers were higher - and yet when his numbers are lower, they're still biased, I guess.
But obviously, logic doesn't have much to do with these rants.
And John McCain's very bad, no good week can't have helped.
You wanna see US rocketry, watch a tape of a Saturn launch, with the explosion, and the ice falling, and the holdbacks giving way.
The clips of the Apollo 11 launch still drops my jaw, to this day, 39 years after the fact.
One time he punned a troll so hard the Heritage Foundation felt it!
Spocko
Is that what that was. They told us "earthquake" at Wassamata U.
Lay off the one-armd pushups d00d!
I have but the one functional tit! Like a psychodrama! Like a skeleton man!
One time he punned a troll so hard the Heritage Foundation felt it! Spocko
OTOH, my love is like a tidal wave, spinnin' over your head.
One thing's for sure--Ed's got zip experience in organizing. I imagine he thinks this is what grassroots organizing is all about, but, that's mostly ego thinking for him....
montag
I'm archiving his radio shows, god knows why.
And I know there is gonna have to be a "Fair Use" and Lack of Copyright Notice explanation to him.
Say, Thersites, are you accompanying Atrios to Austin next week as his body man? -Toby Petzold
you know, he still needs a bat-wingman - you down?
Yeah, well, cool off, Kid Kilowatt. Thers
Party on, Chris Gaines.
This hotel's high speed suxxorz., I' seeing 8.6 K thruput.
My V51 modem was faster.
You know, you got Francis Ford, Sophia, Nick Cage. It's cool. We have a cornucoppola.
I have but the one functional tit! Like a psychodrama! Like a skeleton man! Thers
I *thought* that was you on the one tit poster at the post office.
I'm archiving his radio shows, god knows why.
Obviously, you're sweet on him.
Party on, Chris Gaines.
Throw your javelin through the sun, you.
It's gonna be great with all those nutroot celebs infiltrating my city like a bunch of goddamned Californios.
Should be interesting.
Obviously, you're sweet on him.
Willendorf Venus
It's his teeth.
We have a cornucoppola.
Don't be in a rush - more likely to forget Jason Schwartzman!
I *thought* that was you on the one tit poster at the post office.
Here is a joke.
In what way is Thers like Los Del Rio?
I think our bats are already summering in the Hamptons by now.
Throw your javelin through the sun, you. Thers
4lg has already set the controls of the GOP ship for the heart of it.
And I know a thing or three about cocksucking in a tank.
I think the only tank that Toby knows anything about is the drunk tank.
I just hope you don't find out the truth about my miserable life. Being found out as a loooser will probably mess me up.
i haz [kill][hide]
In what way is Thers like Los Del Rio? Thers
Neither of you can dance the macarena?
Don't be in a rush - more likely to forget Jason Schwartzman!
Molly I mentioned that a Coppola scion was doing something new in the entertainment biz lately & I told her it was a "cornucoppola." She was torn between admiration and homicide.
Neither of you can dance the macarena?
No.
Thers is a one tit wonder.
After all, you can't reverse yourself on just everything and not expect people to question whether you even have any core principles.
Someone I read today blamed the clumsiness of BHO's rightward trend on the compressed schedule he's got after the incovenience of Mrs. Clinton's belated concession. Ordinarily, people wouldn't notice it so much, but he's lying abt shit like it's going out of style.
People are noticing.
Thers is a one tit wonder.
Frankly, I would be more concerned if you were like Dolores del Rio.
Barry--
Whenever you're poking around for vitae on Ed, try Edgar S. Hale. See if that shows up in the geneology stuff.
She was torn between admiration and homicide.
Is this going to be one of those Sunset Boulevard posts?
I'm archiving his radio shows, god knows why.
The Carlin gambit? [We collect junk to fill up available space.]
Frankly, I would be more concerned if you were like Dolores del Rio.
I went out with her in junior high.
Ready, aim, fire WV. I suggest Toby as a first strike.
Obama's decision to give his acceptance speech in a stadium is absurd. Who does he think he is? The Beatles?
Fuck this clown. You people should be held up to ridicule forever for what you have permitted.
Barry--
Whenever you're poking around for vitae on Ed, try Edgar S. Hale. See if that shows up in the geneology stuff.
montag
My brain just went blank, I know what the S stands for... damn..
He's toast on the Nathan Hale thing.
I'm now working on him saying hey's trying to bribe a Kenyan to get a fake birth certificate for Obama.
Ready, aim, fire WV. I suggest Toby as a first strike.
baba durag
Done and done. Since it's javascript, looks like, maybe I will put something else besides "kill" in those brackets.
Who does he think he is? The Beatles?
Who do you think you are? Winston Fuckin' Churchill?
I went out with her in junior high. Thers
You sure that wasn't Rebekah Del Rio?
All Obama has to do is provide a copy of the original BC and I won't say another word abt it.
Because, basically, I wouldn't have to.
The guy's a crypto-Muslim. He's trying to hide that, but it won't work.
My # placeholder is shot to shit now though. every time I refresh it scrolls up the page. Don't know if that is the script or Haloscan.
Toby, where is your birth certificate? How do we even know you are eligible to vote?
Are you talking abt Vanessa Del Rio? She was a porn star back in the 1980s or 90s.
OK, going to watch Live Free or Die Hard.
Nighters. Play nice with Tobykins.
I know he doesn't mean it to be funny, but the idea that any mindless assclown supporter of the authoritarian cultists who've nearly killed our democracy thinks people who oppose them are traitors and dupes is hi-larious!
All I heard was "This is Houston, you are go for lunar approach."
WTF kind of shit was that for a nine year old to hear? With that chirp after each transmission?
I actually heard the original "Houston, this is Tranquility Base. The Eagle has landed."
I bet more Earthlings at that time knew about that moment, than pretty much any other event in their lifetime, except for the muder of the man who had thrown the Moon gaunlet down in the first place.
'night, Pectorus Monomus.
WTF kind of shit was that for a nine year old to hear? With that chirp after each transmission?
It was a charteristic of radios made my Johnson Radio.
We had some Johnson CB radios in the 1960's and they all chirped at the end.
Johnson incorporated that in all of their radios, Govt, Ham, CB, just something they did to let the receiving party know the transmitter was done.
"No, I swear it has nothing to do with his being black. I may be a racist, but I don't like him b/c he's a flip flopper who wasn't born in this country! Not like, umm, McCain, who, umm, wasn't born here, and, umm, has kind of rethought his positions on a bunch of stuff, when umm, he can think of what his position is when someone asks him..... Obama sucks!"
Willendorf, you're way above my pay grade. I don't even know how to view the script, let alone change it.
Is this going to be one of those Sunset Boulevard posts?
JeffCO |
lend me your comb?
Hey, Willendorf Venus. Aside from the cubicle drama - how was the REST of your day?
: )
I won $7 playing Megamillions today.
I'm rich, bitches!
My # placeholder is shot to shit now though. every time I refresh it scrolls up the page. Don't know if that is the script or Haloscan.
Willendorf Venus
that's all the comments by whoever's in your killfile being collapsed. haloscan does it after it loads everything first.
"Also, the guy's obviously a muslim which means he's in league with the terrorists who keep making me wet myself! He had to be an extremely devout muslim not to be swayed by his biggest influence, the radical black Xian preacher, who, umm, taught him to hate America, but, umm, didn't comvince him to be a Xian, b/c, ummmm, what ma? Goddammit ma, I'm on the computer. I SAID I'M ON THE COMPUTER! Keerist. Where was I? Oh, yeah - lieberals suck! hahahahahahaha"
Looks like you're buying this round, then Mister Doghiney...
No one can listen to this woman and not be truly appreciative of the wonerful diversity that is this world.
Ravi Shankar should be proud.
So does Cheney's subsidiary KBR have a higher body count than the insurgency?
Kelly Richey?
lend me your comb? 1Watt
Posted from beyond the grave.
Eww, now I keep picturing Wolfowitz spitting on his comb.
Looks like you're buying this round, then Mister Doghiney...
virgotex
Sorry, I'm going to reinvest my earnings in tomorrow's Lotto drawing.
Sorry, I'm going to reinvest my earnings in tomorrow's Lotto drawing.
It takes money to lose money.
All righty - nightie all!
Sorry, I'm going to reinvest my earnings in tomorrow's Lotto drawing.
You shar pei in sheep's clothing Conservative!
dude, all you need is a dollar and a dream. That clearly leaves 6 bucks for the rest of us. woo hoo.
night, JeffCO.
JeffCO | 07.12.08 - 2:05 am |
am I really that old?
I'm so disappointed, Ed didn't do a live radio show for Friday.
Eww, now I keep picturing Wolfowitz spitting on his comb.
JeffCO
I always saw it as he was sucking the dandruff out of the comb.
"So does Cheney's subsidiary KBR have a higher body count than the insurgency?"
Remember the three Cs.
Collateral Casualties of Commerce. And ya know, the victims shouldn't take it personally. It's just business, so get over it.
Anybody into film and making them? Digital video? Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h?
v=YvZZNwDnJuk
I'm so disappointed, Ed didn't do a live radio show for Friday.
Barry from AK in Miami
Yeah, sorry I missed that...
"I always saw it as he was sucking the dandruff out of the comb."
Protein hit from the head lice eggs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h?
v=zORRZ8934wU
All I heard was "This is Houston, you are go for lunar approach."
WTF kind of shit was that for a nine year old to hear?
I would hope it's the kind of thing that would make a nine year old see that anything can be possible, if we decide that it is.
Yeah, sorry I missed that...
baba durag
Yea, he only did old time radio shows.
But hey, I could send ya yesterday's (Thursday)
42 meg now, but I can cut that down.
You really don't want it
speaking of panhandlng.
As I have shared elsewwhere, I was "gashandled" for the first time ths week. Gu walks up to me at the pump and asked if I could spare a couple gallons.
You really don't want it
Barry from AK in Miami
No. I really don't.
And with that, I gotta vamoose.
Hang tough, bats.
Vegas is the Canary in a coal mine.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs...ts-may-figures/
Richard Cheney deserves the Nation's ire.
If for nothing else, than for fucking us twice.
For you younguns, Cheney and Rumsfeld were here before, a generation ago, wreaking their brand of havock even back then.
I'm not shitting you.
As I have shared elsewwhere, I was "gashandled" for the first time ths week. Gu walks up to me at the pump and asked if I could spare a couple gallons.
That's like the guy in a suit coming up to one in NYC asking for $20 for cab fare because he lost his wallet....
Whatever happened to, "hey, friend, spare change?"
Inflation, I guess....
And with that, I gotta vamoose.
Hang tough, bats.
baba durag
I'm going *poof* too.
At one of my 4 times a year nexus where my job is on the line.
Suxxors to do what I do.
Nite all.
*poof*
And they were not alone - so the question is, how did they manage to "do us" twice?
Richard Cheney deserves the Nation's ire.
If for nothing else, than for fucking us twice.
For you younguns, Cheney and Rumsfeld were here before, a generation ago, wreaking their brand of havock even back then.
I'm not shitting you.
MP
more Lonnie Mack/Stevie Ray:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h?
v=jHr7xGvDBmY
For you younguns, Cheney and Rumsfeld were here before, a generation ago, wreaking their brand of havock even back then.
I'm not shitting you.
Well, Cheney was here before a generation ago, as Sec. of Defense.
Cheney and Rumsfeld together now goes back two generations, when they were in Nixon's first-term Equal Opportunity Commission, and their job was to dismantle it....
The Bush Error: Brother can you spare a dime.
Cheney and Rumsfeld together now goes back two generations
That makes me feel so goddamed old, I think I should be a museum curator on a flimsy pension.
That makes me feel so goddamed old, I think I should be a museum curator on a flimsy pension.
Hey, these days, a pension is a plus....
Chants:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=2obY_DVIuAs
You gotta think twice about this Nation's economy, when 50's and 60's TV stars are cutting ribbons at stupid shopping malls.
We used to be better than this. I think.
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the U.S. economy.
It's you.. it's me... and we're dancing!
-
too pooped to pop
We're not better at anybody with anything. Setting foot on the Moon is so forty years ago.
We used to rock as a nation, even with our faults.
We just suck now, only we have lots of nukes that we think will work.
We used to be better than this. I think.
MP | 07.12.08 - 2:40 am
nope, the WATB's always wanted control.
You gotta think twice about this Nation's economy, when 50's and 60's TV stars are cutting ribbons at stupid shopping malls.
You think that's bad, check this out:
There are still 167 days until Christmas, but the Amalgamated Order of Real-Bearded Santas will try mustering up some early holiday spirit this coming weekend in Kansas City at their convention.
If only they weren't at each other's bearded throats.
The Amalgamated Santas, one of the nation's largest Santa groups, are dealing with a schism in their ranks. The rift has left burly bearded men accusing one another of bylaw violations, profiteering and behaving in un-Santa-like ways. Some Santas have filed complaints of wrongdoing against others in Kentucky and Pennsylvania.
In a 588-page federal notice, the Environmental Protection Agency made no finding on whether global warming poses a threat to people's health or welfare, reversing an earlier conclusion at the insistence of the White House and officially kicking any decision on a solution to the next president and Congress.
The White House on Thursday rejected the EPA's suggestion three weeks earlier that the 1970 Clean Air Act can be both workable and effective for addressing global climate change. The EPA said Friday that law is "ill-suited" for dealing with global warming.
"If our nation is truly serious about regulating greenhouse gases, the Clean Air Act is the wrong tool for the job," EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson told reporters. "It is really at the feet of Congress."
White House press secretary Dana Perino said that President Bush is committed to further reductions but that there is a "right way and a wrong way to deal with climate change."
And Bush has no clue as to right/wrong.
why is the dscc wasting money on oregon's open house seat? The Dem is a solid, stand up guy...going up against a winger who dropped his girlfriend off at an abortion clinic. glad they want to protect this open seat, but i'd rather see the money help the opponent to greg walden.
Well, Jesus, if you are a tenth as good as your acolytes clain, come save us now.
You gotta think twice about this Nation's economy, when 50's and 60's TV stars are cutting ribbons at stupid shopping malls.
We used to be better than this. I think.
Given what a lot of television was in the `50s and `60s, they're probably pushing the envelope doing ribbon-cutting.
Not that I don't miss some of it--"Your Show of Shows," Ernie Kovacs, "Playhouse 90," "The Honeymooners," but, you gotta admit, a lot of it was dreck, warmed-over vaudeville and horse operas adapted from Saturday movie serials.
What was different, then, was news coverage. Sure, some of it was just as corporate-minded as today, but, even that was more obvious and recognizable. But, I doubt you'd see anything like Murrow's "Harvest of Shame" today, even though the problems he illuminated in that haven't really changed in almost fifty years.
But, advertising today is more subtle, more predicated on psychology, more deceptively manipulative. Politics is more like show business. Show business is more like advertising, when deals can be made or broken on the product placement terms....
Yeah, it's different today.
White House press secretary Dana Perino said that President Bush is committed to further reductions but that there is a "right way and a wrong way to deal with climate change."
The wrong way is "to sharply increase gasoline prices, home heating bills and the cost of energy for American businesses," she said. "The right way, as the president has proposed, is to invest in new technologies."
it's different, but neither good nor bad. just different. change is good...
adapting is even better.
Has anyone ever noticed that we live in the only country in the world where all the poor people are fat?
Good morning. Well, Phil, there are some reasons behind that.
but, you gotta admit, a lot of it was dreck, warmed-over vaudeville
The youtube clips of the early 50's Abbott and Costello are almost a college course in unfunniness. I think of myself a a spontaneous guy, but I didn't crack even half a goddammned smile watching that shit. And they got rich of of that mess?
Just raising a question here: The Clean Air Act was designed to address problems like particulates, ground-level ozone, etc. Can that template be used for CO2?
Most TV is dreck. Is "The King of Queens" funny?
"who's on first base?"
"Fuck you"
advertising today is more subtle, more predicated on psychology,
Car ads are the worst. How about telling me what the car can do rather than turning it into a skateboard, hmm?
"who's on first base?"
"Fuck you"
MP
Are you talking to yourself, or did I miss something?
it's different, but neither good nor bad. just different. change is good...
I suppose one could go deep in the metaphysical weeds in trying to argue the point, but change for the sake of change isn't necessarily good. (Case in point--Bush was certainly a change from Clinton.)
If the general trend over roughly the last twenty-five years is the fundamental change in public opinion, whether spoken quite that way or not, to "fuck `em all, I'm taking as much as I can," then, I'd say that's going to be quite counterproductive when the whole country has to start pulling together to solve the upcoming problems that are lurking just around the corner.
It's now over twenty years since Michael Douglas' Gordon Gecko bespoke, "Greed is good," and some people took him to heart....
That's change that is ultimately destructive. As we're seeing today.
Are you talking to yourself, or did I miss something?
CityKid
You missed a lot.
counting crows instead of sheep.
peace
Costello: Whose wife?
Abbott: Yes.
Has anyone ever noticed that we live in the only country in the world where all the poor people are fat?
Rush Limblimp
Bill Bennett
Dennis Hastert
Are you talking to yourself, or did I miss something?
CityKid
You missed a lot.
MP
Do you know the warning signs for a stroke? Geez, eezz up.
Has anyone ever noticed that we live in the only country in the world where all the poor people are fat?
Rush Limblimp
Bill Bennett
Dennis Hastert
leibniz leibkins ♘☮
If they are one bacon cheeseburger from death, I'd love to be the one serve it to them.
breakfast time.
advertising today is more subtle, more predicated on psychology,
Car ads are the worst. How about telling me what the car can do rather than turning it into a skateboard, hmm?
Yep
http://www.rightbrainpeople.com/
Just raising a question here: The Clean Air Act was designed to address problems like particulates, ground-level ozone, etc. Can that template be used for CO2?
I'm pretty sure that some of it is applicable, in a general category of "maintaining the environment."
Not all of it is applicable, but I don't think working CO2-specific language into the Act would be all that difficult.
Not all of it is applicable, but I don't think working CO2-specific language into the Act would be all that difficult.
montag
I thought the Supreme Court already ruled on this - after all isn't that what that hokum report that was released this afternoon (yesterday for folks not in AK) was all about?
Not all of it is applicable, but I don't think working CO2-specific language into the Act would be all that difficult.
montag
Most Senators are not stupid people. They don't do stuff on legislation for very specific reasons. Hell, McCain's campaign is giving Obama shit for a vote that McCain didn't even attend.
Long gone are the career ending Civil Rights Senators of '64.
I thought the Supreme Court already ruled on this - after all isn't that what that hokum report that was released this afternoon (yesterday for folks not in AK) was all about?
The Supreme Court required the government to release the report, but the report itself is just an advanced notice of proposed rulemaking, which is part of process to set rules based on existing law. That doesn't constitute a legislative change, because only the Congress can do that.
And, since the report is so watered down--and contradicts the EPA's previous conclusions last December--it's pretty much meaningless.
Congress will, eventually, have to step in and hold hearings with the new management of the EPA so that actual standards and means of implementation can be amended into the Clean Air Act, because that's not gonna happen under Bush.
Thanks for the stuff on the Clean Air Act. I was about to give the Bushies the benefit of the doubt. Silly me.
Congress will, eventually, have to step in and hold hearings with the new management of the EPA so that actual standards and means of implementation can be amended into the Clean Air Act, because that's not gonna happen under Bush.
montag
Thanks for this, but I thought the Court indicated that it was OK for the EPA to regulate "green house gases," and the report was an attempt by Bush & Co. to abrogate their responsibility .
LBJ would *not* have had those civil right and voting rights bills on his desk to sign , if it weren't for a courageous Congress to provide those bills to him.
I'm so disgusted with our current Congress. The Dems were put into power in Nov. 2006, because the the people were damned mad.
In June, 2008, the Congress has earned a 9% approval rating.
Whatever Pelosi and Reid think they are doing, they're doing it extremely badly.
Thanks for the stuff on the Clean Air Act. I was about to give the Bushies the benefit of the doubt. Silly me.
The EPA probably could have generated a report which would propose fairly sweeping rule changes under the existing Clean Air Act--as I suggested, there are enough hooks in the Act on which to hang new CO2 rules, at least to get started, but, not only did Cheney's office go berserker on the language, but, they accomplished one other important thing: this notice sets a very long period for public comment, literally months longer than is normal or usual. That means the Bushies have pushed the decision onto the next administration, so, if there's any economic bad news in the rule changes, they can be blamed, rather than the Bushies.
The issuance of the report, in its effect, was a stalling tactic, as was the resistance to issuance that required a Supreme Court ruling on the matter.
Thanks for this, but I thought the Court indicated that it was OK for the EPA to regulate "green house gases," and the report was an attempt by Bush & Co. to abrogate their responsibility .
It's a bit confusing. The Supreme Court said to the EPA in Massachusetts v. EPA in April, 2007, sort of, "get yer thumb out. You have to decide if there's sufficient evidence of global climate change, or you have say why there's not."
So, knowing that the evidence was overwhelming, and knowing that the Court had admonished them for not enforcing the Clean Air Act--because they had done nothing, they went back and wrote a report--with some fairly sweeping changes, including that the EPA could regulate tailpipe emissions of CO2. That's the report they sent to the White House in December.
Having had advanced notice of what was in the report, the White House refused to open the email with the draft report attached, and continued to refuse to do so for months. In that time, Cheney and his gang started badgering EPA officials to modify the report.
Over time, they managed to get the changes they wanted. That's the report that was finally issued today, and which, from initial reporting, is substantially weaker than the report drafted in December.
Good morning, seriously-discussing Atriots.
Good morning, seriously-discussing Atriots.
What few of us are here.
Still insomniacal?
What few of us are here.
Still insomniacal?
montag
Yep. Got abt 2.5 hrs sleep so far. You?
Yep. Got abt 2.5 hrs sleep so far. You?
I only have window fans, so when the hot season arrives, I don't get to sleep until the house cools down enough... which is usually around dawn or a little later.
Once asleep, I'm okay--I can stay asleep until I've had a few hours.
Plus, since the layoff, my schedule's quite variable.
morning, all.
that insomniac stuff must be going around. But it was a good morning for commenting on WaPo idiotocracy.
EPA is being slammed by Hiatt, and didn't I run into thunder there, saying very much the same thing I did, as an enabler, Hiatt has no ground to stand on in complaining about the same kind of idiocy he's promoted all these years.
Hiatt has no ground to stand on in complaining about the same kind of idiocy he's promoted all these years.
And, if I read you right, Hiatt's complaining about the wrong bunch of people. Putting the onus on the EPA, when Cheney and his wrecking crew are the root of this problem, is just more of what Hiatt does and has been doing for a long time.
Once asleep, I'm okay--I can stay asleep until I've had a few hours.
Plus, since the layoff, my schedule's quite variable.
montag
Sounds like a good way of coping with the situation. It's miserable trying to sleep when it is overly hot.
montag, we had a little system for cooling off when in my teens I sunbathed, keep towels in the frig, take out and apply when it's muggy and too warm. In case of your situation, sounds like it might help.
Agreed, Hiatt is shovelling any direction but straight at the cretin in chief and his pet gremlin. And missing.
LBJ would *not* have had those civil right and voting rights bills on his desk to sign , if it weren't for a courageous Congress to provide those bills to him.
I don't think so. He frightened, bribed, and snookered those morons into supporting the bill.
And the team of serious pressure from MLK/Sncc and "we're here if the polite guys fail" Malcolm X/Panthers also scared 'em.
montag, we had a little system for cooling off when in my teens I sunbathed, keep towels in the frig, take out and apply when it's muggy and too warm. In case of your situation, sounds like it might help.
Might work. Humidity hasn't been the problem but for the last few days--some rain, for a change, which has increased the humidity recently.
It's really the radiant heat. Old concrete block house without much insulation that just soaks up the heat and radiates it a few hours staggered from day/night cycles.
It's been cool with the rainy season here. I think it only got up to 98 in downtown Tucson today, and out here in the sticks maybe 82F. It's cool inside the house.
Thunderstorm at the moment. Been rather tropical around here all week. Hot and humid all day, T-storms every night.
I don't have insomnia, I'm working nights, though I've off tonight.
It's a normal awake time for me.
I don't think so. He frightened, bribed, and snookered those morons into supporting the bill.
LBJ had one other thing going for him (not to minimize his considerable arm-twisting skills): there was a budding legacy from Kennedy. When Kennedy first came into office, he was almost solely focused on the Soviets. Bobby Kennedy was authorizing the FBI wiretapping of MLK and others in that movement.
But, by late 1962, early `63, everyone in the White House--including Kennedy--had read Michael Harrington's Poverty in America, Kennedy had had a sit-down (albeit noncommital) with MLK, and most people in the WH could see that poverty and race were linked, and that moving policy in that direction could be a focal point for the 1964 campaign.
LBJ, as a Southern Democrat, had the muscle with his former colleagues to keep that going and increase the momentum.
Here, it got into the upper 90's yesterday, today supposed to go to 100's for the first time.
rootless-e, it's true that LBJ put up a lot of the muscle that got civil rights thru. I remember that Sen. Yarborough was about the last to come out in favor of it, he was hounded by reporters for weeks leading up to the actual vote. Of course,his constituents were weighing in against the bill. I was told by the staff that were there during it, they were being threatened about his vote by many really thuggish TXns the whole time. And he knew he'd lose the next election. i believe after the actual vote, he was in a way free to do some of the braver things he did, because he knew he'd lost no matter what.
I drove down Old Spanish trail tonight and saw many frogs that have woken up from their drought slumber, that were hopping across the road.
Old Spanish Trail sounds lovely. Near my aunt's house in Vicksburg, there was an old Indian road, that could barely be made out. Lots of Spanish moss, very picturesque.
Sometimes you just can't avoid the masses of frogs that seem to want to be on the other side of the road. Lots of other nocturnal critters out on the streets around here. Raccoons, possums, coyotes, feral cats. Damn near hit a possum on my bike a couple of days ago. One dumb animal.
I drove down Old Spanish trail tonight and saw many frogs that have woken up from their drought slumber, that were hopping across the road.
Saw that happening here a day or so after we got the first inch of rain we'd had in over a month. But, not too many frogs.
I was going cross-country in the late spring of 1970 when I hit a stretch of 1-40 before Amarillo that was like Biblical prophecy--it had just rained, and for about four of five miles, the road was a carpet of frogs. Literally millions of them.
I don't there are so many now....
Uh, that s/b "I don't there are...."
Geez, I'm losing it. My corrections are even wrong... "I don't _think_ there are...."
Geez, I'm losing it.
To be fair, it is quite early or late.
Old Spanish Trail I don't know really where it got it's name from though it's a fairly well traveled two lane road going from Broadway on the East side of Tucson to Colossal Cave.
(some lore about that cave
http://www.colossalcave.com/bandits.html )
It's one of my regular routes I use to get to my house, when I don't want to drive down the freeway, or some very busy roads. It's a bit curvey, but drivable at reasonable speeds.
montag, that 'think' stuff just insisted it was missing, seems like. heh.
Ralphie, possums are at least easy to trap. I have to move a family away from my catfood ever so often.
I've never had to trap one but I'm certain it is easy. I really don't want to hit one on my bike but the damn things just freeze when they hear you coming.
Doug, wonderful Cave story. There's a place west of here that was supposed to be Jesse James' hideout, lots of big rocks and caves around. May just be legend, but made it fun to visit as a kid.
Ralphie, at least they're not skunks, which also freeze among less agreeable things. and get hit by cars a lot,since that's their main defense mechanism.
I'm still working. The company I'm working for is doing some tests for new programs, that I think will provide solid employment for a few years.
Beyound that? I don't know. I've always got my own projects I'm working on, that I hope I can sell to someone.
My latest? A MIDI controlled aeolian pipe array. This is a garden or park, art installation. Right now It only has twelve notes, though I want to make one with more, to extend how many scales it can play on.
No I am not saying what makes it work.
Haven't seen any skunks around this year. Catch a whiff every now and then. Was quite a scare about rabid skunks a couple of years ago.
Doug, that sounds wonderful. Stalagtites in Luray Caverns were rigged somehow so they could be played, made wonderful sound of an organ.
Old Spanish Trail I don't know really where it got it's name from though it's a fairly well traveled two lane road going from Broadway on the East side of Tucson to Colossal Cave.
Funny. I haven't been back to Tucson since I was there in `59-`60, at Davis-Monthan. People I know there now say I wouldn't recognize it. Then, Speedway used to be the main drag, and now, from what I understand, it's just the low-rent part of town.
Same with Houston. In the `50s, the house we lived in was clearly suburban. Now, it's on the edge of inner-city Houston.
The Tucson metropolitan area now has about 1 million people living here. When I first started going here (Ft Huachuca) Houton Rd, was the eastern side of Tucson, with the exception of a few old ranch houses on Old Spanish trail. There was nothing down Houton Road. Now there are small strip malls, auto mechanic shops, restaurants, housing developments all the way past I-10.
I live way to the east of Houton Road for that reason.
The drive from Tucson to Nogales was mostly rural, until a bizarre entity named Green Valley, I believe, began to mestastasize. There was a restaurant in a small cave in Nogales, Sonora famed for turtle soup.
this killfile feature is hysterical. so some losers can set some trolls to auto-ignore, only to talk about how they're ignoring the troll for th e rest of the thread. very effective.
Must have been cave turtles, plantsman.
My aoelian pipes don't actually sound that great. They play flat or sharp according to wind speed and sometimes play harmonics when the wind is roaring. I could work more on the the geometry of the whistle opening,
I haven't bothered much with the lips of the whistles, right now I use a modded cut off saw, and some files to smooth the resulting rough edges. I think the eventual answer is to cast the whistle faces, and soldier, weld, or glue those onto a larger opening.
Though I think at this point the crapy whistle face is a feature not a bug for the device.
The drive from Tucson to Nogales was mostly rural, until a bizarre entity named Green Valley, I believe, began to mestastasize. There was a restaurant in a small cave in Nogales, Sonora famed for turtle soup.
We made that trip maybe once a month for a quite specific reason. My father could buy Oso Negro gin in Nogales for about three bucks a gallon.
The lady with the McCain = Bush sign who was booted from an event has blogged about the experience.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...e_n_112255.html
And every kid counted for the liquor ration, as I recall.
Here are your whistles! I was just over at this blog I like, and she had them up - http://www.npr.org/templates/
sto...toryId=92423408
Groups of kids would be herded repeatedly across the border by different sets of parents loading up on cheap booze -- while Mexican kids shouting "Chickeletes!" would hawk Chicklets to us.
Must have been Clark's "attack" on McCain or the Jesse Jackson's nut-a-thon "scream" on CNN. Or Obama isn't thwarting the attacks as well as he did during the primaries.
Last month, Newsweek’s poll surprised many by showing a huge gap between Barack Obama and John McCain, with the Democratic nominee-apparent enjoying a 15-point lead over the Republican. One month later, Obama has lost all of the momentum and has dropped into a virtual tie with McCain. The latest Newsweek poll shows Obama up 44-41, within the margin of error:
My aoelian pipes don't actually sound that great. They play flat or sharp according to wind speed and sometimes play harmonics when the wind is roaring.
Do you have some sort of vane arrangement that keeps the aperture normal to the wind? Seems that if you're using something like an organ pipe aperture, because of the shape, wind coming across it or at a tangent could be causing the sharps and flats....
Judging by the comments 'round here, the FISA vote may have had something to do with it.
The drive from Tucson to Nogales was mostly rural, until a bizarre entity named Green Valley, I believe, began to mestastasize. There was a restaurant in a small cave in Nogales, Sonora famed for turtle soup.
plantsman | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 6:05 am |
My aunt retired to Green Valley last year.
I hope to visit her next winter, I've not been to the Tucson area since May 1990.
Boys On The Side captured a Tucson I kind of recognized.
Judging by the comments 'round here, the FISA vote may have had something to do with it.
Very possible. The date of the polling was July 9-10.
Gimlet, how McCain can be going up in the polls while making constant idiotic statements, and his economic advisor showing absolute insanity ... must be wording the poll question something like "do you want us to take your first born or are you going to vote for McCain"?
Oh goody, it's going to be hotter than blazes here today.
plantsman, did you get the frig fixed?
I don't think a major poll has been conducted sine Gramm melted down.
I don't think a major poll has been conducted sine Gramm melted down.
plantsman
true, but that Gramm was instrumental in the Enron exception that gave us the subprime debacle was generally out of the closet.
Not yet. GWPDA has been providing moral support and good advice. The landlords have let it be known they don't give a damn, but my signed rental agreement says they provide appliances and my 2+ years of cancelled rent checks prove I've kept my end of the bargain.
Are musicians owed royalties for performance of their music in torture chambers?
Posted by Cory Doctorow, July 11, 2008 4:45 PM | permalink
Canadian copyfighter Howard Knopf has suggested (presumably with tongue firmly planted in cheek) that recording artists whose music is played by torturers in Gitmo are owed performance royalties:
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/0...ans-owed-
r.html
I doubt many Americans have any idea what the "Enron Loophole" is, and how it has fucked us over.
of course, if you don't have any idea what's going on in this world, maybe you shouldn't vote? silly me.
Canadian copyfighter Howard Knopf has suggested (presumably with tongue firmly planted in cheek) that recording artists whose music is played by torturers in Gitmo are owed performance royalties:
That's sort of a two-edged sword, isn't it? Royalties a definite plus, the publicity that your music was used to torture people, uh, not so much....
Royalties are paid when music is broadcast over the airwaves, what was played when at Gitmo might be hard to prove.
My singing has wrung confessions from hardened terraists, surely ... when do I get my cut?
Morning peeps.
Attended the Friday pot luck yesterday and I should have stayed home. Everyone was all atwitter about Iranian missiles and how we have to protect ourselves. When I pointed out the missiles couldn't get anywhere near us, they just said wait, they're working on it. I then pointed out that the intel was coming from the same people who told us Iraq had wmd. They just didn't want to hear it. They're all set to start bombing Iran. Jebus. And these are Dems for the most part.
While I don't take the dim view of the public that mogwai does, I try not to overestimate their intelligence, either.
Remember the nukes in balsa wood UAVs that could get here from Iraq in 45 minutes? Good Times.
Royalties are paid when music is broadcast over the airwaves, what was played when at Gitmo might be hard to prove.
Not just over the airwaves, but, when the music is used for any commercial purpose. Now, the military's use of it might not be construed as commercial; however, if this was done by contractors who were profiting on their torture activities, that might be another matter.
How's that for legal hair-splitting?
must be wording the poll question something like "do you want us to take your first born or are you going to vote for McCain"?
Ruth
The reasons I offered were sarcastic but Obama is not deftly handling crises the way he did in the primaries.
Can't find the poll details to see if McCain has risen or Obama has fallen and whether the loss of support is among Dems or Indys.
perfect, montag.
ql, that would be whining, don't you know? And cutting taxes on the rich permanently will solve the subprime mess.
I then pointed out that the intel was coming from the same people who told us Iraq had wmd. They just didn't want to hear it. They're all set to start bombing Iran. Jebus. And these are Dems for the most part.
I think it's safe to say that with regard to the effect of propaganda on the public, the old computer adage applies: garbage in, garbage out.
Are musicians owed royalties for performance of their music in torture chambers?
John Tesch?
Same story around here, ql. The same idiots that are convinced Iraq was responsible for 9/11.
The man is not perfect and he's going to make mistakes; he's still a damned sight better than McSame and Company.
Morning, you lovely Moonbats!
if this was done by contractors who were profiting on their torture activities, that might be another matter.
It struck me as one of those ironic applications of the law.
Ralphie,
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Morning, Hecate! sittenpretty turned on Jeffraham;
I was not at all surprised.
As usual, we have high standards for the rational while we forgive the wingers for being idiots, since they don't have any standards anyway. or something like that.
My latest? A MIDI controlled aeolian pipe array. This is a garden or park, art installation. Right now It only has twelve notes, though I want to make one with more, to extend how many scales it can play on.
No I am not saying what makes it work.
Doug | 07.12.08 - 5:52 am | #
I heard this funny piece on nice polite republicans today about David Byrne's "building" instrument in Brooklyn. Pipe organ attached to motors and air pumps that send air into old water pipes or hammer or vibrate columns.
They're all set to start bombing Iran.
Which will then take out all of our troops in Iraq. We don't have any army left.
Thanks, Hecate. I don't know all the details yet, but I should find out more today.
It scares the living shit out of me. The best I could do was convince one or two to hold out till a new administration is in place cause the current admin has fucked everything up so royally. How they can blandly discuss taking out millions based on a "maybe" is totally beyond my ken.
republicans are anti-government like pigs are anti-trough.
s.p. didn't ask him for a pair of socks, anyway, as I understand.
Surprised it lasted so long.
Morning, plantsman! I have black=eyed susans in bloom!
It struck me as one of those ironic applications of the law.
I would guess there are some very arcane, involuted sections of the DCMA that could be applied....
What happened??
Ralphie, my condolences.
As they say, growing old isn't for wusses.
Umm, that's DMCA. Sorry....
How they can blandly discuss taking out millions based on a "maybe" is totally beyond my ken.
They and their families will not be part of the new war. That's for other people.
We have Rudbeckias in bloom too -- I adore them!
It scares the living shit out of me. The best I could do was convince one or two to hold out till a new administration is in place cause the current admin has fucked everything up so royally. How they can blandly discuss taking out millions based on a "maybe" is totally beyond my ken.
qlª | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 6:43 am | #
the best argument against democracy is a 5 minute discussion with an average voter - churchill
the best argument for democracy is a 5 minute discussion with an average national security bureaucrat - me
Ralphie, sorry to hear you're having a bad time. Hope all goes easily anyway.
How they can blandly discuss taking out millions based on a "maybe" is totally beyond my ken.
Right out of Huggy's "joke" book.
How they can blandly discuss taking out millions based on a "maybe" is totally beyond my ken.
Face it, we live in a land of murderers. Even if they only cheer on, or allow the murder to happen by proxy, via the US military or it's contractors, it's still murder.
To me this is a spine chilling thought.
And Crocosmia (Montbretia) "Lucifer", too! Glorious!
Howling owls.
owls on crime.
The Republicans have institutionalized sociopathy.
My friend that died was the youngest of 13 children. Most of his brothers and sisters had at least ten children. At last count he had well over 130 nieces and nephews. Everyone called him Uncle John. Going to be a large funeral.
the best argument against democracy is a 5 minute discussion with an average voter - churchill
the best argument for democracy is a 5 minute discussion with an average national security bureaucrat - me
I still have the feeling that most voters can come to a sensible conclusion if they're given the facts. These days, those facts have to also come from someone the voters perceive as an authority figure (that's a reflection of how greatly we've been diminished over time). That generally means someone in government or someone in media. Both of those, for some number of decades, have been propagandizing the public....
: O)
So Tony Snow's dead?
Like I give a fuck.
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