She does that.
Snow, Liberal |
10.20.07 - 10:21 am | #
College Republicans at U of Washington are trying to tell everyone that "Islamo-Fascism" more dangerous than global warming:
"Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, launched this year by a recent graduate of Duke University and sponsored by the Los Angeles-based David Horowitz Freedom Center, is intended to "confront the two Big Lies of the political left: that George Bush created the war on terror and that Global Warming is a greater danger to Americans than the terrorist threat," according to its Web site."
Nine tenths of the U.S. fresh water supply is just steps from where I sit.
Ralphie |
10.20.07 - 10:21 am | #
The reason catastrophic drought conditions never materialize is because it's so easy to adapt to 90 percent of the droughts. It's that final 10 percent that's going to do in cities.
Moe Szyslak, all wet |
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10.20.07 - 10:22 am | #
Even in "drought" years, Atlanta has never been as dry as Little Rock.
Jennifer |
10.20.07 - 10:22 am | #
David Horowitz Freedom Center
Gee, that sounds like a fun place!
plantsman, areligious |
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10.20.07 - 10:22 am | #
I wuz right. Typical is what happened when Atlanta hired the European Suez company (the people who built the Suez canal and how have half a million employees), to look after its water supply. They let the water system deteriorate. Brown sludge came out the taps. Suez bailed taking the money and leaving the taxpayers to clean up the mess.
The attempt to effectively offshore their basic services came home to roost pretty quickly.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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10.20.07 - 10:22 am | #
She does that.
Snow, Liberal
I am not easily offended, and I am persistent.
Dr. Wu |
10.20.07 - 10:22 am | #
As I've said before, I have this secret rain dance I offered the city for a modest and reasonable sum, but they apparently plan to go with an ill-advised water dowser.
Gimlet |
10.20.07 - 10:23 am | #
The town of Orme, Tennessee, also trucks in water, three times a week -- for everybody.
Even for the nigras?
Lime Rickey |
10.20.07 - 10:24 am | #
watertiger,
Still there? Found 'em!" They're called "The Hypnotic Brass Ensemble."
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:24 am | #
Hey, isn't Coke bottled there?
Culture of TrÜth |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:24 am | #
er, scientists of all political persuasions research and warn about global warming. It's weird, this making the rejection of science into an ideological test.
Moe Szyslak, all wet |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:24 am | #
and where would that be, Ralphie?
el |
10.20.07 - 10:25 am | #
Hey, isn't Coke bottled there?
No, not really.
Snow, Liberal |
10.20.07 - 10:25 am | #
Coke syrup is made there, more importantly.
plantsman, areligious |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:25 am | #
plantsman: and the may-fly itself is a fragile, evanescent beast, liable to being blown by history's heedless winds.
Given German history, a not inapposite piece of childhood, alas...
ProfWombat |
10.20.07 - 10:25 am | #
As I've said before, I have this secret rain dance I offered the city for a modest
You're surrounded by water!
Snow, Liberal |
10.20.07 - 10:26 am | #
I feel The Great Lakes coming on.
plantsman, areligious |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:26 am | #
It's weird, this making the rejection of science into an ideological test.
They want to bring back the dunk test for witches, but, y'know... drought.
SteveNS |
10.20.07 - 10:26 am | #
The reason catastrophic drought conditions never materialize is because it's so easy to adapt to 90 percent of the droughts. It's that final 10 percent that's going to do in cities.
Moe Szyslak, all wet
But all lawns will look nice.
Stinky |
10.20.07 - 10:26 am | #
I thought coke was bottled different places, all over the world, using local water.
?
el |
10.20.07 - 10:26 am | #
(the people who built the Suez canal
They must be pretty damn old by now. No wonder the water system's going to hell.
Lime Rickey |
10.20.07 - 10:26 am | #
Oslo, Norway, has giardia in the communal water. People are being told to boil all drinking water, possibly for as long as several months.
Echidne |
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10.20.07 - 10:27 am | #
I signed a Colbert for President petition last night. Still feel a bit guilty about that.
Snow, Liberal |
10.20.07 - 10:27 am | #
You're surrounded by water!
Snow, Liberal
Only for a short time when I really get into the dance, but I appreciate the testimonial.
Gimlet |
10.20.07 - 10:27 am | #
Boil water for several months? Won't it like, evaporate?
plantsman, areligious |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:28 am | #
Read an article a few years ago that detailed water use for golf courses in the southwest; it was startling.
We simply aren't going to be able to live the way we've been living for much longer without major consequences.
ProfWombat |
10.20.07 - 10:28 am | #
Atlanta is spending $4 billion to fix the city's water infrastructure. According to Franklin, 14 percent of the city's pipes, many of which date back to the 1890s, leak. Though the mayor says the percentage of leaky pipes has dropped each of the last six years.
14 percent isn't bad. Most major cities in the U.S. lose 15-20% of their water due to leakage in the distribution system. Boston in the 1970's was losing about half--as much water leaked out of the system as ended up coming out of faucets. It's gotten better since but it's still bad. The infrastructure in the cities is getting to be that age where it's just going to be one failure after another.
Dr. Wu |
10.20.07 - 10:28 am | #
Boil water for several months? Won't it like, evaporate?
Anyone have any coffee for me?
Echidne |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:28 am | #
I thought coke was bottled different places, all over the world, using local water.
It is. The Syrup is made more centrally and diluted.
plantsman, areligious |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:29 am | #
Privatization = government funding for the rich.
rootless-e |
10.20.07 - 10:29 am | #
Though the mayor says the percentage of leaky pipes has dropped each of the last six years.
As the old medical saying goes "The bleeding always stops".
Gimlet |
10.20.07 - 10:29 am | #
Anyone have any coffee for me?
Norway apparently. Bring your own beans.
Snow, Liberal |
10.20.07 - 10:30 am | #
Still there? Found 'em!" They're called "The Hypnotic Brass Ensemble."
res ipsa loquitur
I only told you that twice.
Dr. Wu |
10.20.07 - 10:30 am | #
Norway apparently. Bring your own beans.
There's a ban on the use of coffee machines, too. They don't make the water hot enough.
Echidne |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:30 am | #
Just as water pipes leak, so do sewage pipes. The two are often next to each other...
Moe Szyslak, all wet |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:30 am | #
Isn't that god-awful Disanti water from the Atlanta municipal supply?
Stinky |
10.20.07 - 10:30 am | #
I was snarking.
There was a hour long thread disucssion the other day about where Coke was bottled.
Culture of TrÜth |
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10.20.07 - 10:31 am | #
Anyone have any coffee for me?
Echidne
I made about 8 cups' worth, and I'm here by myself.
Drink up, you'd be doing me a favour!
SteveNS |
10.20.07 - 10:31 am | #
Dr. Wu,
Sorry. Didn't see that. Were you familiar with them?
res ipsa loquitur |
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10.20.07 - 10:31 am | #
Read an article a few years ago that detailed water use for golf courses in the southwest; it was startling.
Gray water. Has been for fifty years - akin to the flood irrigation that SRP sends to my property.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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10.20.07 - 10:31 am | #
Dasani (owned by Coke) is of unknown provenance to me.
plantsman, areligious |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:31 am | #
Larry Johnson on Valerie Plame's limited ability to tell her story:
The CIA won the initial round in Federal Court and insists Valerie cannot acknowledge working at the CIA prior to February 2002. Because of a pending appeal in her freedom of speech case against the CIA, she cannot say anything about joining the CIA in September of 1985 fresh out of college. She cannot say anything about her initial impression of her Career Trainee classmates–such as Jim Marcinkowski, Brent Cavan, Mike “the Griz” Grimaldi, Precious Flower, and mois. She is proscribed from telling you about wandering the forests of Camp Peary learning land navigation and she certainly will not, at least for now, be able to tell you about being taken hostage and subjected to torture for two days.
Isn't that god-awful Disanti water from the Atlanta municipal supply?
Nope. Probably local. Where your coke bottler is.
Snow, Liberal |
10.20.07 - 10:32 am | #
Read an article a few years ago that detailed water use for golf courses in the southwest; it was startling.
ProfWombat,
Las Vegas has a very aggressive "black water" reclamation program. All the recycled "black water" (you don't wanna know) is used for that sort of stuff. Other stuff, too, e.g., fountains, decorative stuff.
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:32 am | #
There's a ban on the use of coffee machines, too. They don't make the water hot enough.
Echidne | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 10:30 am | #
Jeez - no coffee machines in Norway as October ends and the sun sets until June. Sounds like a mental health emergency is starting.
rootless-e |
10.20.07 - 10:32 am | #
Hey Ralphie (and all you others that can no longer suffer the fools of the Republican Party)!
The story also points to the decay and lack of reinvestment in domestic infrastructure. Interstate highways average 40 years in age. Our rails can be as much as 100 years old (the electrical system powering the busy northeast corridor was built in the 1920s)!
Say nothing about our water/sewer systems, Dams (some there are 150 years +), electrical grid...
But of course, angry Mooooslims gonna bring down our infrastructure and shatter our economy.
Yep. With a feather.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
10.20.07 - 10:32 am | #
There's a ban on the use of coffee machines, too.
Oslo sounds *pizzazzy* right now!
plantsman, areligious |
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10.20.07 - 10:32 am | #
I'm thinking of branching out from being a rainmaker.
I have a plan on the drawing board to provide polution-free bottled air on e-bay contingent on a GOP administration in 2008.
Gimlet |
10.20.07 - 10:33 am | #
Just as water pipes leak, so do sewage pipes. The two are often next to each other...
Moe Szyslak, all wet
One of the big problems with the sewer pipes is water leaking in - infiltration and inflow, which takes up capacity in the system and costs money to treat. It's a big problem in wet areas.
This has been another edition of "How your sewer works".
Stinky |
10.20.07 - 10:34 am | #
she certainly will not, at least for now, be able to tell you about being taken hostage and subjected to torture for two days.
Well, Big Dick tagged her as fair game.
Lime Rickey |
10.20.07 - 10:34 am | #
NYT Magazine is running an article tomorrow on the drying up of the West at the same time the population of western states is exploding. It is not going to be pretty when the water runs out.
Toucari, fka cosmic tumbler |
10.20.07 - 10:34 am | #
Other stuff, too, e.g., fountains, decorative stuff.
res ipsa loquitur
I've read some stuff about e-coli at public fountains, where the kiddies play.
Moe Szyslak, all wet |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:35 am | #
When's Plame/Wilson's book being published?
plantsman, areligious |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:35 am | #
Going out. Have a great batsy weekend, all.
Echidne |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:35 am | #
Dumbledore is teh gay. But we knew that one already.
Troutski |
10.20.07 - 10:35 am | #
It's getting light with agonizing slowness today.
plantsman, areligious |
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10.20.07 - 10:36 am | #
One of the big problems with the sewer pipes is water leaking in - infiltration and inflow, which takes up capacity in the system and costs money to treat.
"treat sweage" -- who does this? We just dump it in the harbour.
Moe Szyslak, all wet |
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10.20.07 - 10:36 am | #
I've read some stuff about e-coli at public fountains, where the kiddies play.
Theoretically, you could drink the stuff on its way out of the plant. It's always possible that it could get contaminated in the fountain.
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:36 am | #
At least Albus didn't hit on Harry, that we know of.
plantsman, areligious |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:37 am | #
California communities are finally getting the picture that some water uses LAWNS are unacceptable
Liars For Bush |
10.20.07 - 10:38 am | #
Gotta hand it to these mercenaries--they know how to live off the land, in a manner of speaking. Via antiwar.com
Blackwater USA tried to take at least two Iraqi military aircraft out of Iraq two years ago and refused to give the planes back when Iraqi officials sought to reclaim them, according to a congressional committee investigating the private security contractor.
Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, wants the company to provide all documents related to the attempted shipment and to explain where the aircraft are now.
In a letter sent Friday to Erik Prince, Blackwater's top executive, Waxman said he learned of the 2005 attempt from a military official who contacted the committee. That official is not identified in the letter, nor is the type of aircraft.
I've read some stuff about e-coli at public fountains, where the kiddies play.
Moe Szyslak, all we
Well, with all the birds crapping in it, drunken frat boys peeing in it and people throwing their garbage in it, not to mention the wee folks splashing about in not-so-fresh Pampers, I don't doubt it.
Stinky |
10.20.07 - 10:38 am | #
NYT Magazine is running an article tomorrow on the drying up of the West at the same time the population of western states is exploding.
Excellent. Then you can all stay home.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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10.20.07 - 10:38 am | #
res-- the problem with fountains isn't the water source, it's that the water is recycled right there, round and round. Some kid with a dirty diaper gets in, the next 100 kids are exposed.
Moe Szyslak, all wet |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:39 am | #
If Big Al saves the icebergs, they could be towed to water deprived coastal areas.
Lime Rickey |
10.20.07 - 10:39 am | #
Try flying those choppers back around Saudi Arabia, across the Mediterranean and Atlantic, Erik.
plantsman, areligious |
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10.20.07 - 10:39 am | #
Hey, guys! That brass band that plays in the subway?
In a letter sent Friday to Erik Prince, Blackwater's top executive, Waxman said he learned of the 2005 attempt from a military official who contacted the committee. That official is not identified in the letter, nor is the type of aircraft.
Cue the Wingerz nomination of Erik Prince for the Nobel Peace Prize (for removing combat aircraft from a combat zone) in 5...4...3...
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
10.20.07 - 10:40 am | #
Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, wants the company to provide all documents related to the attempted shipment and to explain where the aircraft are now.
Doesn't he have a 2nd Amendment right to a well armed militia?
Gimlet |
10.20.07 - 10:40 am | #
Morning all.
Been away since early yesterday. Have I missed anything alarming?
steve simels |
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10.20.07 - 10:40 am | #
It's getting so if you go into yer typical local pizza/sub type shoppe and you want to have water with your food instead of soda or ice tea, all they offer is that Desani piss. That stuff does not taste like water in my mouth. It does not quench thirst at all. I worked for years in labs and quickly learned that purified water (deionized, RO) tastes awful and is practically a poison, just like Desani.
Bad Art |
10.20.07 - 10:40 am | #
you funny, wt.
plantsman, areligious |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:41 am | #
The fucking NYT mag should be put out of its misery after that "Second Guilded Age" shite last weekend.
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:41 am | #
res-- the problem with fountains isn't the water source, it's that the water is recycled right there, round and round. Some kid with a dirty diaper gets in, the next 100 kids are exposed.
Moe Szyslak, all wet
I wonder if Britney ever skinny dipped in a fountain?
Lime Rickey |
10.20.07 - 10:41 am | #
Not sure how much good more water storage is during a drought.
Less water usage might be in order. Seems to me more water usage just encourages people to ignore drought conditions.
Rmj, Face of Bo |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 10:41 am | #
I'm back. Had to go by some of those fire-starting cubes before the shops close at 5.
Marcellina |
10.20.07 - 10:43 am | #
And Snape, we know, was straight...
ProfWombat |
10.20.07 - 10:44 am | #
mimi gave a sockpuppet show, accusing Marcellina of being an Afrikaaner, the usual...
plantsman, areligious
How would a Canadian be able to determine that?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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10.20.07 - 10:44 am | #
Sheets and I already touched all four.
Gomez |
10.20.07 - 10:44 am | #
Why do I feel like I should: "Be afraid! Be very afraid!"
The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI agree that the homemade explosive devices that have wreaked havoc in Iraq pose a rising threat to the United States.
Maybe because I feel more threatened by a government that wants to spy on me and that considers the loss of a major American city a local problem. I mean, how many IED's have gone off in America lately? Last one I can think of was in Oklahoma City, and none dare call that "terrorism."
Rmj, Face of Bo |
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10.20.07 - 10:44 am | #
Hey, Steve! See any good movies yesterday?
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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10.20.07 - 10:44 am | #
res: nobody's celebrated the current floating circus of wealth more consistently, or with more moral blindness, than the Times...
ProfWombat |
10.20.07 - 10:45 am | #
How would a Canadian be able to determine that?
I'm very confused by her alleged citizenship claims. Canadarian? French? Swiss?
Uh, that could be a problem.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.20.07 - 10:45 am | #
Just as water pipes leak, so do sewage pipes. The two are often next to each other...
Moe Szyslak, all wet | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 10:30 am
OK, Moe-unfair to just throw out something like that with no real explanation! As long as the water pipes are filled with water, under pressure, they will only leak out, right? I hope?
Which is why after doing work on water mains or lines, people are told to run all their faucets for a certain amount of time or until the water runs clear?
When road work was done this summer, my own line was busted by a digger--geyser! Later on, while doing something with the main, the neighbors were not told about it and my dear elderly neighbor almost had a heart attack, thinking the reddish brown water in her toilet was blood or something. Since she'd had bladder cancer, she was well and truly freaked.
jawbone |
10.20.07 - 10:45 am | #
Valerie Plame's limited ability to tell her story:
Why doesn't she get Bob Novak to tell it for her, since his ability to divulge state secrets seems unlimited.
R. McGeddon |
10.20.07 - 10:46 am | #
I'm very confused by her alleged citizenship claims. Canadarian? French? Swiss?
Ja, mit Oesterreichish Vetter.
plantsman, areligious |
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10.20.07 - 10:47 am | #
The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI agree that the homemade explosive devices that have wreaked havoc in Iraq pose a rising threat to the United States.
Heh. One of my best memories from the Arson Squad was the discovery that nobody knows how to make a Molotov cocktail any more. NOBODY.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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10.20.07 - 10:47 am | #
People in other areas and of course in the news media don't understand how weird this water shortage in Georgia is. The normal rainfall is huge compared to other areas. People move to GA and complain "everything grows like a jungle here." This drought is like the damn twilight zone, and I don't think even Atlantans have grasped it yet.
Jan in Stone Mtn |
10.20.07 - 10:48 am | #
Hey GWPDA,
Did you know that AL GORE is in first place in the recent Democracy for America (DFA) Poll? I'm assuming that most of the lefty liberals get info from DFA in their e-mail boxes at least a few times a week.
The standings are as follows:
Al Gore 12267 26.82%
John Edwards 10898 23.83%
Barack Obama 8207 17.94%
Dennis Kucinich 6759 14.78%
Hillary Clinton 3025 6.61%
Bill Richardson 1806 3.95%
Other 1200 2.62%
Joe Biden 637 1.39%
Mike Gravel 539 1.18%
Christopher Dodd 399 0.87%
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.20.07 - 10:49 am | #
Poor Britney. I remember making a comment in a chat room like 6 or 7 years ago, that I could tell Britney would be fat before she was 30, and got roundly excoriated for it. "She's a cute young girl!" etc. Well, yeah, she was. Then she got fat and gross.
Though to be fair, I don't think she really looked all that "fat" at her horrible VMA performance - she just should have picked something else to wear. Then again, she's got another 5 or 6 years to go before she hits 30.
Jennifer |
10.20.07 - 10:52 am | #
Steve's Movie Reviews:
GONE BABY GONE.
Absolutely great. Casey Affleck, amazing. The rapper who plays the scary drug dealer: Oscar worthy. Great script. Michelle Monaghan is my new favorite babe of all time (she was the only thing worth watching in THE HEARTBREAK KID, and here's she's to die for). Amazing feel for the blue collar Boston milieu. Just a terrific movie.
Have I mentioned that Michelle Monaghan could have me if she player her cards right?
RENDITION. Multiple converging plot movie, kind of like Babel or Syriana except not terribly believable. Reese Witherspoon gets to scream a lot, but not much else. I didn't mind, though, because Reese Witherspoon looks exactly like my college sweetie. Alan Arkin has little to do; Meryl Streep is evil. I think the theme is that torture is bad.
Have I mentioned that Reese Witherspoon could have me if she played her cards right?
steve simels |
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10.20.07 - 10:55 am | #
...the city's pipes, many of which date back to the 1890s...
Hello. Fact checker. That can't be true. Perhaps a few of the city's pipe date to the 1890s but 99% of current Atlanta was (non-irrigated) farm land and woods in 1890. Perhpas some of the pipes in, say, Inman Park or whatever date from the 1890s but even if that whole area has all vintage pipes, it's, oh, .0001 percent of the water pipes in Atlanta.
anon |
10.20.07 - 12:46 pm | #
Our infrastructure is built on predictability. Water availability is calculated using short term climate records.
Conservation has enormous potential. We irrigate lawns, which are water pigs. Rice is grown in arid California.
joe |
10.20.07 - 1:04 pm | #
Opposing gay marriage has consumed all the political energy that could have gone to fixing water infrastructure.
bob h |
10.20.07 - 4:19 pm | #
Really could care less about Georgia and it's non-drought. There is a simple solution and that is conserve what you have, just like every other major metro area in the country. We had to conserve water in the Chicago suburbs back in the 80's, maybe even earlier.