I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Come out for a train tour of the west, Atrios! Portland is calling you.
Rain wind rain!
I'm melting melting melting
GWPDA is happy with her new train
I'll be blunt: if you don't like rapid transit, tough fucking shit. Government's not going to buy everyone a fucking car and it's to society's benefit to provide some sort of apparatus to move large numbers of people around. If you don't want to ride it, you don't have to, but you sure as fuck are going to pay for it, just like you pay for schools and (yes) highways and for the same fucking reason.
Ha! The snow is finally melting.
Maybe the problem is, "light rail" sounds wimpy... rename it "heavy duty supersized rail with extra macho" and the haters would be on board.
Big prick-waving dick fighthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjRQwvnjpPw&
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You don't understand, dave...riding rapid transit means having your individuality suppressed. It's like a gulag on wheels, or a mobile hot tub full of hippie pantheists.
I survived Christmas.
Also, when I rode public transport to work each day, I read about seven books a week. Now, between working at home and driving, I'm lucky if I read a couple a month.
ERIN FOR the wIN!!
Hemi Rail.
HERE'S some light rail for ya!
Harumph. Shortsheeted. I'd still rather fly.
Let's ask GWPDA, she rode the Grand Opening of Valley Metro today.
Well, the real problem with any transportation scheme is having land use patterns that support the density required for mass transit to be worth the time and effort to put into place.
This is the problem in most of the West, built up so that it's predicated on individual automobiles existing.
Then you've got the example of LA that was sprawled out but on the predication of the Red Car line being nearby, which was sabotaged by those assholes at General Motors to push freeways and more auto sales.
C'mon, you guys -- cheer up! You're missing that eternal holiday tradition: the Meineke Car Care Bowl!
SUPERRAIL!!
Then you've got the example of LA that was sprawled out but on the predication of the Red Car line being nearby, which was sabotaged by those assholes at General Motors to push freeways and more auto sales.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 12.27.08 - 1:15 pm | #
wait - i thought it was those darn toons in toontown?
Maybe the problem is, "light rail" sounds wimpy... rename it "heavy duty supersized rail with extra macho" and the haters would be on board.
Thumper Johnson | 12.27.08 - 1:11 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
The trains could be more menacing, too...black and brooding, with screaming eagles on the sides.
D/t'ed:
ellroon with shoes | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:00 pm
Great photoshop. That should be the cover for his book.
....riding rapid transit means having your individuality suppressed. It's like a gulag on wheels, or a mobile hot tub full of hippie pantheists.
It's like living in East Berlin!!!
The trains could be more menacing, too...black and brooding, with screaming eagles on the sides.
Phila, City Hobgoblin
no, no. not iggles.
falcons.
...when I rode public transport to work each day, I read about seven books a week.
It's the only place newspapers actually sell at the newsstand...
East Berlin was weird, unless you liked children's versions of Marx and Lenin in every bookshop.
Put bar cars on SUPERTRAINs and the fuckers would run a profit. People who moan about $1.50 for transit will pay $7 for watered down well drinks if they think they will see a celebrity there.
With all due respect to dirk, I feel compelled to say fuck the Falcons.
And fuck the Panthers harder.
Thank you for allowing me to get that out of my system.
The Communist Manifesto coloring book!
Having lived shortly in Santa Barbara, really stiff well drinks sell much better.
Put bar cars on SUPERTRAINs and the fuckers would run a profit. People who moan about $1.50 for transit will pay $7 for watered down well drinks if they think they will see a celebrity there.
George Johnston | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:19 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I think it'd be better to have a row of desks facing a video screen that'll lecture riders on dialectical materialism and the agricultural gains achieved in the southeastern communes.
BTW, Nice homerun Erin.
The trains could be more menacing, too...black and brooding, with screaming eagles on the sides.
Phila, City Hobgoblin
Stealth trains.
The East Bay Key system was frickin' great for getting into SF, though it never moved faster than 25 mph going over the Bay Bridge.
a mobile hot tub full of hippie pantheists. - Phila
I could use one of those.
Thank you for allowing me to get that out of my system.
Sinfonian, in St. Petersburg | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:19 pm | #
you know i was just trying to stir up trouble, right?
And the Number One "Strangest Thing in the Universe" is...
Put bar cars on SUPERTRAINs and the fuckers would run a profit.
A bar car never fails to enhance the traveling experience.
a mobile hot tub full of hippie pantheists. - Phila
Well, I like my pants, but I don't worship them.
The East Bay Key system was frickin' great for getting into SF, though it never moved faster than 25 mph going over the Bay Bridge.
There was a train that came in all the way from Chico!
falcons.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:18 pm | # [kill]
Fuck that noise. Falcons = royalism. Eagles = teh Freedom.
Karl Marx and the Dialectical Imperative (Book 6) was a let down. That hexing charm on the industrialist who was exploiting his workers just wasn't written well.
The duel between Adam Smith and Harold Proletariat though was quite good.
trifecta HAH!
you know i was just trying to stir up trouble, right?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
And you succeeded. 
I'll be at the Bucs-Raiders game tonight. The Bucs get the sixth seed in the playoffs if they win (which they should) and Dallas loses.
But at this point, I almost don't want them to make the playoffs. They sure as hell don't deserve it, after the way they've played the last three weeks (against Carolina, Atlanta, and San Diego).
Correction: Bucs-Raiders game is tomorrow.
Thanks Ali and Libby
just stumbled in here after cooking for a bunch of guys
a mobile hot tub full of hippie pantheists. - Phila
Ah, then you have ridden in my first car.
Oh, and given the above scenario: GO IGGLES!
Okay...fine...they're 1980s technology. I say we go back to the technology they had in Washington D.C. when I was a kid in the 1950s: streetcars. Simple, ordinary, streetcars. The kind that were darn near everywhere in D.C. before O. Roy Chalk scrapped them in favor of busses. I grew up in a household that didn't have a car and I remember riding those things once upon a time. They took you everywhere in the city.
I live in Baltimore now, and I'm told that most of the neighborhoods here in the city grew up around the streetcar lines. All paved over now...
just stumbled in here after cooking for a bunch of guys
ErinPDX | 12.27.08 - 1:27 pm | #
are they disabled?
Bucaneers were pirates who always failed in the post season. I read this in a book somewhere.
Bucaneers were pirates who always failed in the post season. I read this in a book somewhere.
trifecta
At least they could spell "buccaneers."
I'll be blunt: if you don't like rapid transit, tough fucking shit. Government's not going to buy everyone a fucking car and it's to society's benefit to provide some sort of apparatus to move large numbers of people around. If you don't want to ride it, you don't have to, but you sure as fuck are going to pay for it, just like you pay for schools and (yes) highways and for the same fucking reason.
dave™©
Hear, hear!
All paved over now...
Bruce Garrett
you can run streetcars without rails.
They had them here, they ran on regular wheels, with overhead lines that put up quite a lightshow in freezing rain....
are they disabled?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Well, I certainly do spoil them but they actually have been learning to cook some stuff.
At a time when there's talk of going back to sail power, I don't know that the "old technology" line is gonna get much traction.
What will make mass transit attractive is the prospect of walking long distances for a six-pack.
I get the feeling -- correct me if I'm off -- that some people in the SW Sprawl Belt think of their existence as a kind of triumph over nature, and that anything that detracts from that attenuated existence connected by the holy car is a personal insult.
Massive theft of public resources: the guiding principle of the Republic party.
You don't understand, dave...riding rapid transit means having your individuality suppressed. It's like a gulag on wheels, or a mobile hot tub full of hippie pantheists.
Phila, City Hobgoblin
You can't listen to Rat Wing radio turned up full blast if you use public transportation.
I get the feeling -- correct me if I'm off -- that some people in the SW Sprawl Belt think of their existence as a kind of triumph over nature, and that anything that detracts from that attenuated existence connected by the holy car is a personal insult.
pseudonymous in nc
Pretty much. The environment is evil and must be destroyed seems to be a big part of their thinking.
the bicycle is 1880's technology.
Hear, hear!
Where, where???
For the record, I kind of like the term light rail. It makes it sound like you could pick the train up with your bare hands.
The best sails are made of hemp.
Hemp is the answer to all of our problems.
Hear, hear!
Where, where???
dave™©
WHERE wolf?
THERE wolf!
The best sails are made of hemp.
that isn't what I've been told.. hemp is second.. first is tussa.
Ack! The Hemp Troll got to Erin! ErinPDX, will you talk to me?
Most people in the SW sprawl belt came from other places, like Ohio.
Well, I certainly do spoil them but they actually have been learning to cook some stuff.
ErinPDX | 12.27.08 - 1:30 pm | #
speaking of which, i think i'll go reheat some of mom's lasagna leftover from christmas. maybe i'll have some of my daughter's spinach pie and my sister's homemade bread with it.
(the bread is pretty cool - she made "easter bread," which has a whole egg in its shell baked in; but for xmas, she shaped it like a baby wrapped in swaddling clothes and used the egg for the face, complete with a 
drawn on)
*cough*
I would like to remind people that Pgh is not evil, and there is more than one pgh fan on this blog.
Thank you for shopping Kmart. Come again.
dave™© | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:31 pm
Just what the Mass Pike needs. More toll booths. It's clearly not congested enough. I guess they learned nothing from I-95.
are they disabled?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Well, I certainly do spoil them but they actually have been learning to cook some stuff.
I love to cook for the kids. I love to cook for myself.
Damn connection keeps going gunnysacks. 
Come again.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars
no flirting!
For the record, I kind of like the term light rail. It makes it sound like you could pick the train up with your bare hands.
Libby, somewhat mellow | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:31 pm | #
for some reason, i always picture rails lubricated with sewing machine oil.
Is Vicki profoundly PO'd for the reason I think she's
profoundly PO'd?
WHERE wolf?
THERE wolf!
"Why are you talking like that?"
"I thought you wanted to!"
Damn connection keeps going gunnysacks.
bo | 12.27.08 - 1:35 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
We need to go back to the telegraph.
Is Vicki profoundly PO'd for the reason I think she's
profoundly PO'd?
plantsman
I believe so.
The best sails are made of hemp.
the best sales are on presidents day
I started posting on my crappy blog again today. I figured for the past eight months I would ignore my blog like everybody else.
Is Vicki profoundly PO'd for the reason I think she's
profoundly PO'd?
plantsman
Re: facebook. Yes.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:34 pm
I want your family to adopt me so I can haz leftovers like that too.
plantsman has mail
Hello again. Snow finally trying to melt here. Huzzah!
Early in the morning, on the coldest day of the year, Steve Demardes, of Phoenix, arrived at the station near 19th Avenue and Montebello.
"I was trying to beat the crowd, of course there's no crowd. My ears are about to freeze off," Demardes said. "I just want to be part of the big experience."
You candy-asses from Phoenix don't know what REAL cold is like.
I started posting on my crappy blog again today. I figured for the past eight months I would ignore my blog like everybody else.
trifecta | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:36 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I'm going to try to resume things this week. Lord knows if I'll manage it, though....
Wow, about 1200 people visited my blog since I have. Weird.
anything that detracts from that attenuated existence connected by the holy car is a personal insult.
pseudonymous in nc
If one-car-per-family-member was good enough for the rugged individualists who settled the wild frontier, it's good enough for them, goddamit!
I want your family to adopt me so I can haz leftovers like that too.
Libby, somewhat mellow | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:37 pm | #
mom made her famous 'bourbon ball' cookies, too. mmmm! *hic*
ok, now i'm really hungry.
bbl.
GravatarHello again. Snow finally trying to melt here. Huzzah!
mena | 12.27.08 - 1:37 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
High time. Yesterday was the worst day for driving yet. Took me forty minutes to travel a mile.
My ears are about to freeze off," Demardes said.
No hats in Phoenix.
Via Mark Evanier, Bruce Vilanch on Eartha Kitt.
Is Vicki profoundly PO'd for the reason I think she's profoundly PO'd?
That Scrabble knock-off on Facebook isn't working again?
anything that detracts from that attenuated existence connected by the holy car is a personal insult.
pseudonymous in nc
The correct term is Freedom Machines.
There was a lot controversy for years before the Minneapolis system was implemented. Now it's quite popular and is doing very well.
I started posting on my crappy blog again today. I figured for the past eight months I would ignore my blog like everybody else.
trifecta | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:36 pm
Nice to see you started out with such a cheery post.
I started posting on my crappy blog again today...
I was thinking of doing that, too.
I mean, after all - every fleeting thought is a pearl!
Wow, about 1200 people visited my blog since I have. Weird.
trifecta
Wow, about 1200 people visited my blog since I have. Weird.
trifecta
< KEYWORD Jennifer Anniston >
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I wish we had light rail in Indiana between Cincinnati and Indy. Of course if we did, dipshit Mitch would've sold it off to some Australians already and the fares would be through the roof while service sucked ass.
I hope that roar is just wind & rain. Can't see far enough...
Is Vicki profoundly PO'd for the reason I think she's
profoundly PO'd?
He posted where he was staying here, in the middle of the night, so I called his room, and he hung up on me before I got past "hi Mike."
I simply called because I want to address the truth of the matter, but he is incapable of a mature discussion, and that's why he hung up. You know that now he knows that I feel that he did something really nasty to me, he is going to retreat into his man cave. But I know how he thinks, and this "little oversight" (i.e., lies and deception) of his is ruining his trip. He wants to have a good time, but he can't because it's eating at him, right to the core. Too bad he is incapable of talking about it; it might relieve some stress and allow him to move on and actually enjoy his vacation.
Took me forty minutes to travel a mile.
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I passed two or three snowplows on the clear freeway yesterday on my way home. I wonder if those guys get any training at all or if they just send some kid out in a truck.It was a shitty drive, but it was worth it to meet another Atriot.
Erin haz mail, too.
I hope that roar is just wind & rain. Can't see far enough...
1Watt, Hermit
Could it be...SUPERTRAIN?
possecomitatus, one of the regular commenters at azcentral.com, is an obama-hating wingtard.
Not surprised he posted something stupid.
The best sails are made of hemp.
Not really.
my mom is very Republican and she's out riding the light rail today... she loves it and she's definitely not someone who would do so, usually.
t; it might relieve some stress and allow him to move on and actually enjoy his vacation.
Vicki, profoundly pissed off
My ex used to claim that men never matured past third grade. Sadly, Gomez is proving this true.
PRT (sort-of) currently exists in the city of Detroit. It's ugly, and hilarious, and slow, and dumb.
I remember seeing PRT back at DisneyWorld in, like, the 70s.
As I've written before, I don't know Phoenix
you should come out here, A-man, there are several of us who would be happy to host you and buy you several rounds at George and Dragon GWPDA is just down the highway from me too.
The most disturbing thing about this post is the newsmax ad for Sarah Palin that is embedded in the feed.
Made me throw up in my mouth a little.
For what it's worth, I always found him really odd and could not understand your fondness for him.
So much in your life is wonderful. Go to that.
The best sails are made out of canvas created in New Zealand through the double weave loomed durlapping process, with the gromits made out of hammered copper.
Wait, I am just making this up.
You know that now he knows that I feel that he did something really nasty to me, he is going to retreat into his man cave.
Anyone who's still pulling this shit at 50 years old has Failed at Life.
besides, even on a "cold" day like today (sunny and 42 degrees right now), it's a great place to be in winter, much better than Philly!
armed and crazed, Terrorists kill 200, more victims expected soon.
Well, I just find that profoundly fucking disturbing.
Anyone who's still pulling this shit at 50 years old has Failed at Life.
Phila, City Hobgoblin
And that's why he's pulling this shit. Nicely circular, ain't it?
The correct term is Freedom Machines.
Phila, City Hobgoblin | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:40 pm
That is the BEST graphic. It's now replaced this one as my favorite of the month.
Could it be...SUPERTRAIN?
Adam Hominem
if it has sails
So conservatives might think of John McCain as our potential TR, Mike Huckabee as our potential FDR, and Mitt Romney as our potential JFK. Support the one you prefer. But don't work yourself into a frenzy against the others. Let the best man emerge from a challenging primary process. And if there is no clear-cut winner, then the delegates at the GOP convention can turn on the fifth ballot to an obvious fallback compromise candidate, one who would be just fine with conservatives--Dick Cheney!
--William Kristol--
We're listening to The Magic Flute on public radio. Then we're going to take a ride on SUPERTRAIN!
The most disturbing thing about this post is the newsmax ad for Sarah Palin that is embedded in the feed.
Made me throw up in my mouth a little.
paul in kirkland
Sarah ruined Christmas.
For what it's worth, I always found him really odd and could not understand your fondness for him.
So much in your life is wonderful. Go to that.
Yeah, I know.
Vicki - QL and Tlaz filled me in a little yesterday. I hope you don't mind me saying that it's a relief you didn't marry this guy. I'm sorry he's treated you this way.
an obvious fallback compromise candidate, one who would be just fine with conservatives--Dick Cheney!
--William Kristol--
trifecta
Effin brilliant. He's only had what? Eleven heart attacks?
Please tell me that Cheney-for-prez thing is a joke.
No joke Sinfonian. It was from the January Weekly Standard.
Please tell me that Cheney-for-prez thing is a joke.
Sinfonian, in St. Petersburg
I'm almost always wrong, but the logic of running a guy with an approval rating in the (very) low two digits escapes me.
Effin brilliant. He's only had what? Eleven heart attacks?
Adam Hominem
"That makes a baker's dozen for me, Bob!"
- Chris Farley in the old "Da Bears" sketch on SNL
Vicki, he posted the location on these threads?
No joke Sinfonian. It was from the January Weekly Standard.
trifecta
Please kill me now.
"the logic of running a guy with an approval rating in the (very) low two digits escapes me."
Maybe they think he can only get more popular since he's hit rock bottom?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Co...7onvmn.asp?
pg=2
Vicki, he posted the location on these threads?
ErinPDX |
I thought he was in Hawaii.
Maybe the stress of being a bankruptcy attorney has destroyed his mind.
Well, I just find that profoundly fucking disturbing.
Virginia, no, I'm working
Well, don't post your hotel if you don't want your supposed girlfriend to call you to tell you the truth.
What I find profoundly fucking disturbing is that I know that he thinks that by not allowing me to end it in a calm and rational way, he will call me again in a month or so as if nothing ever happened.
That's not the way I roll. I'm honest and I need it out there for finality.
I want him to understand that what he has done is of the highest order of asshole proportions, but sadly, I'm coming to the conclusion that he is not capable of groking that.
Cheney won't be alive by the 2012 convention, I'll bet. (This is not a personal attack, Atrios!)
Maybe they think he can only get more popular since he's hit rock bottom?
Gindy
His popularity has turned the corner.. his unpopularity is in its last throes.
Or, it could be the secretary has big gazongas.
some of the victims of the Terror attack
Anyone who's still pulling this shit at 50 years old has Failed at Life.
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You're right of course, but you realize how many Failures you talk to in a given day?
So conservatives might think of John McCain as our potential TR, Mike Huckabee as our potential FDR, and Mitt Romney as our potential JFK.
How can you be a potential TR, FDR, or JFK when your main selling point to movement conservatives is that you oppose virtually everything those people are remembered for?
Erin, at 4:00 AM on the overnight thread. I don't know how I happened to catch it, but he posted he was at the Hilton Hawaiian Village. It's on Waikiki Beach.
Pretty fucking easy to find if you use Priceline, the google, whatever.
Yes, dirk, that was me.
You're right of course, but you realize how many Failures you talk to in a given day?
mena
*holds up hand*
Bill kristol's 1 year NY Times contract is up next week.
Sarah ruined Christmas.
Sinfonian, in St. Petersburg | Homepage | 12.27.08 - 1:48 pm
Oh, that hurt. But in a good way.
have wona grieving relative, shrieking in pain. on this day, the terrorists have won/a>
I live in Phoenix, and by that I mean IN Phoenix, not the miserable f'ing suburbs like Surprise or Maricopa or Buckeye. That's where all those ignorant comments come from, the folks that are afraid of teh brown people, who could not imagine going anywhere without their giant SUV.
I'll grant you the Metro is not the be-all, end-all of mass transit. Yeah, it's one line from Mesa, through Tempe, through downtown Phoenix, and ending way too quickly at Christown (sorry, it will never be the Spectrum to me). But you have to start somewhere.
And we've finally started. Hooray. Let's get that line to the PV mall area started now...
Pretty fucking easy to find if you use Priceline, the google, whatever.
Vicki, profoundly pissed off |
"hello, could I speak to the steelers fan bankruptcy lawyer?"
"but sadly, I'm coming to the conclusion that he is not capable of groking that."
Why waste your time with someone who doesn't really want you?
What ever happened to the Windwagons?
http://www.wagonmasters.org/
abou...wagonsmith.html
Vicki, I've had messy endings after years-long relationships, and I remember how captivating they can be -- just do what you must, I believe in you.
W. Kristol, unhinged.
You're right of course, but you realize how many Failures you talk to in a given day?
mena | 12.27.08 - 1:52 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Few to none, actually. I'm pretty particular. Life's too short to associate with misogynist assholes and emotional cripples.
Or rather that's Buy-ology, the name of book by marketing mastermind Martin Lindstrom who recounts his findings from a massive brain-research project exploring why we buy. Appealing directly to the brain's buy impulse is called "neuromarketing," and he spent three years and $7 million, using both CT scanning and fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) technology, to examine how people's brains respond to advertising and marketing ploys.
Bill Oreillys war on spiritualism is, obviously, driven by materialism.
What a fucking asshole
I wondered what the hell "Spectrum Mall" was. Chris-Town I remember.
powerful image of the power of the terrorists bombs
Wanna make the supertrain popular? Put a colorful super cape on it.
Or rather that's Buy-ology, the name of book by marketing mastermind Martin Lindstrom
BedBug Non-Consumist
My God, I heard this guy on NPR! "Apple isn't a company, it's a religion".
I like Tempe. It has a nice downtown people-watching sort of main street with Mill Avenue. And I have a hankering to go to the House of Tricks to treat the family to a classy meal.
Prairie Schooners!
Or, it could be the secretary has big gazongas.
Adam Hominem
Actually, she is very, very pretty, and very high maintenance. She's been married 3 times, he's done all of her divorces. I don't believe she has a thing for him, but she's in between relationships right now, and I'm sure she found a trip to Hawaii paid by him to be just peachy. She is savvy enough to grok that his time off might have been better served by spending time with the one he supposedly wanted to marry, but she is selfish enough to not care about that.
He's known her 20+ years, and she's sabotaged every relationship he's been in, from what he told me. It's a love/hate kind of a relationship. Hell, he has talked about firing her to me in the past because she drives him crazy, but he has this perverse sense of loyalty to her.
Put some loops and high speed curves and call it superrailcoaster!
shoes of doom
Put Wii in every seat!
Vicki, at least you're lucky you found out what a jerk he is before you fully committed emotionally and gah - legally.
His cowardice is appalling.
i totally agree with atrios' argument for light rail in uber dense areas, although i could never ever live in a place that that concept makes sense.
whatever i meant...
I want him to understand that what he has done is of the highest order of asshole proportions, but sadly, I'm coming to the conclusion that he is not capable of groking that.
Vicki
The "grok" part can be arranged.
I need his home address and a large, fresh fish.
My God, I heard this guy on NPR! "Apple isn't a company, it's a religion".
It's a fruit.
When you look up the dictionary definition of "Crazier than a stoned, rabid shithouse rat", its illustrated with a picture of Howwierd "Cracked" Kristol.
My God, I heard this guy on NPR! "Apple isn't a company, it's a religion".
Adam Hominem
Indeed, Its not a piece of plastic with chips, its GOD!!
Christown, I think, is going to be in for quite a revival. They tore down an old strip mall right where the lightrail ends. I imagine that's a desirable peice of property right now.
Apple is a dessert topping, trust me!
What a fucking asshole
It takes a real special kind of fucking asshole to do what he did.
His cowardice is appalling.
It's hurtful, too.
krsaz fucking warned me. God damn it to hell.
but he has always wanted to fuck her
Vicki, profoundly pissed off
FYT
Cheney won't be alive by the 2012 convention, I'll bet. (This is not a personal attack, Atrios!)
Sinfonian, in St. Petersburg
I don't believe McCain will be, either.
The odds are against them both.
And we've finally started. Hooray. Let's get that line to the PV mall area started now...
Tubbyaz
Tubbyaz, you must be up by me. I am right by the 32nd St/Shea Park and Ride. It's scheduled to come up here in about 15-20 years :-(
We should get together with GWPDA some time after the inauguration at Five and Diner. I should have some nice photos
I need his home address and a large, fresh fish.
JR, kerosene and a match
Nah. Not fresh.
but he has always wanted to fuck her
Vicki, profoundly pissed off
well, seems he is getting skrooed by her, just not by bumping uglys.
My God, I heard this guy on NPR! "Apple isn't a company, it's a religion".
that's because their products totally rock.
my stepdad got a MacBook this fall and fell in love with it. He learned how to use it in a week and he's never worked on a Mac before and he's not a technoweenie at all.
Keep moving forward Vicki.
As a person who has repeatedly picked losers, you cannot give up or waste any time looking back.
Lift your head up in dignity, and leave the entire ugly mess in the past.
Good guys are still out there, but not necessary for happiness, just maybe icing on the cake. *hugs*
Phone cal again. I may not be getting out much, but I still keep in touch!
Anyway, Phila, I'm impressed. I wish I had that kind of ability to cull people.
r€nato and Tubbyaz,
I live a little north of the 5&Diner that's on 16th.
Vicki, at least you're lucky you found out what a jerk he is before you fully committed emotionally and gah - legally.
His cowardice is appalling.
Libby, somewhat mellow
With that statement, I am in complete agreement.
Vicki deserves better.
I live a little north of the 5&Diner that's on 16th.
WOW
do you know how close we all are to one another?
GWPDA is right around the corner from you.
In a city as spread out as Phoenix is, that's pretty amazing we are all in the same area.
Life's too short to associate with misogynist assholes and emotional cripples.
Phila, City Hobgoblin
A-to-the-fucking-MEN.
In a city as spread out as Phoenix is, that's pretty amazing we are all in the same area.
r€nato
Liberal Mountain?
Cheney won't be alive by the 2012 convention, I'll bet.
The article was from the January 28th, 2008 Weekly Standard.
It was just Kristol jerking off about the just completed campaign, hoping that the Repugs would fulfill Kristol's dream of an entire party committing mass suicide for the sake of ideological purity.
Dick Cheney would have been the Repug equivalent of Jim Jones.
sheets
Wanna make the supertrain popular? Put a colorful super cape on it.
Edna would not approve, and can give you some convincing case studies of why capes are NOT a good idea for Supers.
Liberal Mountain?
LOL we have mountains here but everyone else would call them overgrown hills.
"The Other Side of the Liberal Mountain"... my favorite 70's ABC Movie of the Week.
I'm in the 40th St. and Thunderbird area, and have been commuting via bicycle to 40th St. and Indian School most days.
I lead a group with the bike club every Sunday for a breakfast ride. I think tomorrow I'll figure out a route that includes a ride on the SUPERTRAIN!
YAhlike why dont we use transporter technology and shit? I mean after all we just have to convert fermions to bosons to channel them into laser-beam pulses across mucho distancios, thereby using up megatons of energy?
The fact that people are still talking shit about PRT systems make me want to puke. People just don't get it. I hate to see anyone unnecessarily suffer, but those little computerized piss cart lovers... they deserve it. Phoenix, for the love of god, turn off your sprinklers and get out of your car. Build yourself some shelters, communities and infrastructure that work with your arid and desolate climate, not against it.
The type of anti-urban existence y'all are building / supporting is about as sustainable as Israel. The desert will surely eat your golf courses, (municipal or otherwise) your highways and light-rail system. It sure was great while you had it though, huh... Who knew that it wouldn't last? Who knew?
the proof is in the pudding. In terms of meeting and exceeding ridership projections, nearly every Light Rail project in the country commissioned in the last 15 years has been a resounding success.
One of the first, the LA Blue Line that kinda led the renaissance in Light Rail being commissioned in the early 1990s met 10 year ridership projections in the first year, and his been way over capacity ever since. Dallas, Sacramento, Baltimore have been big successes, as has the most recent one in Charlotte.
There aren't any valid arguments against continued investment in rail mass transit - just the same tired old conservative clap trap against government spending on people when government could be spending on the all important activity of blowing shit up.
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http://emptywheel.firedoglake.co...rails-to-hades/
Post by bmaz on Phoenix light rail from today.
Until October, 2008, I could not easily use public transit. However, due to a significant change in my life, I now walk about .6 of a mile to the Fillmore Station on the Gold Line (Pasadena to Union Station in downtown LA)and ride for 20 mintes to Union Station. I transfer to the Red Line for a three-stop ride to 7th and Metro Station, then transfer to the Blue Line to get to the the Los Angeles Trade and Technical College, usually (reliably) arriving at 6:32 AM.
As gas prices fell from over $4 to under $2, I saw no reduction in ridership. All seats on the Gold Line continued to be taken after the train picked up riders at the next station ("Mission" station in South Pasadena). When the Blue Line train from Long Beach pulled into 7th and Metro at 6:24 every morning, it was standing room only. Ridership on the Blue, Red, and Gold Lines is heavy every weekday throughout most of the day. During transit, I studied for my classes or listened to Learn Spanish in Your Car on my iPod. I feel liberated from my car. On the other hand, I have to watch out for crazy fellow passengers (thankfully rare) and the sick (coughing, wheezing, but also rare). Most passengers are pretty considerate, except for the occassional cell-phone screamer. Even with cheap gasoline, the trains have been full. If we ever get a real network of rail that really covers the city, people will adapt and use it. But people need to be able to get just about everywhere on a rail system easily before ridership really takes off. It also helps to have lots of housing and mixed-use development nearby, which is exactly what has grown up around the stations on the Gold Line in just five years. The CVS and the Starbucks at the Fillmore Station are gold mines. At 5:50 am, the Starbucks already has four or five insominiacs sipping coffee and tapping on their laptops.
Went down to the Mesa end of the rail opening celebration today. Over 2000 ppl in front of me waiting for a free ride. I think the haters of LR are missing the point of the exercise (not to mention a few key chromosomes).
I have to say this post is the kind of thing that has me agreeing 100% with Atrios, and totally puzzled at what about his opinions generates so much sand in sensitive bathing suit areas of so many people.
Public transport tends to be efficient. It tends to increase density, walkability, and communities where you can actually live - and even more outrageous, communities where you can not have a car and still not be a peasant! The nerve! The salient fact, as Atrios has often noted, is the extremely high property values of areas that have these qualities, which suggests that more people would like to live in these kind of places than the available supply of such places.
Why people have such outrage about this I don't know, but Occam's Razor (or the Steelyard) suggests that people feel it's an affront to the property values of their stupid inaccessible McMansions. Boo fucking hoo.
I live in Phoenix and support the idea of light rail, even though it is not anywhere near where I live. Don't think it will work here, though. Never known a more socially self-centered place in my life. People can barely tolerate sharing the road, much less a train car. Granted I live way up north of the city where every millionaire with a Hummer imagines him or herself to be a self-made rugged individualist --sort of John Wayne with an iPod and personal masseuse--so maybe it will meet with better reception from a more urban populace.
The anti-light rail lobby has long dangled shiny "new" technology, like absurd Personal Rapid Transit vehicle systems, which miss the point of "mass" transit entirely, as a never-to-be-achieved alternative to light rail as a way of derailing projects.
The antis' main motivation is to do anything to avoid coming within fifty yards of anyone who might be poor or have darker skin than they do.
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