I'MMA LET YOU FINISH



Gravatar2nd


GravatarTrolls are #1


GravatarDamn!


GravatarI love it when I score a drive-by. Or almost do.


GravatarOk, I'll read the link now.


GravatarI bet it's nothing that a trillion or so taxpayer dollars couldn't fix.


GravatarWhat's LTCM?


GravatarNo idea, Blue.


GravatarThis better not be a troll joke.


GravatarLiquidity p o o p
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GravatarDe-leveraging is bad, apparently. Wish I knew an economist who blogged and could explain stuff like this.


GravatarHi, Moonbats.

Go look at the gorgeous moon in the SE sky.


Gravatarsay what you will about grandma pelosi but i say hey mombo, mombo italiano...such a subtle dis...

"Pelosi told reporters she missed Palin's television interview Thursday because she was attending a bocce tournament in Hartford."

the woman has her priorities and watching palidan "have mouth/will lie" say "charlie" over and over ain't one of them....

sorry for the repost but if you ever actually watched bocce you'd see why i like this quote so much....it's the kind of game dead trade unionist can still play...


GravatarIt ain't earmarks, innit?


GravatarDear Son and Daughter:

I tried. I really did.

Sorry about the fucking mess.

Love,

Dad


GravatarGo look at the gorgeous moon in the SE sky

It's been raining for close to 30 hours now.

No moon for me.


Gravatar"You got caught by a fat cop!"


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GravatarGo look at the gorgeous moon in the SE sky.

Still daylight here, but I shall.


GravatarWatch the video on the link. Does explain things a bit.


GravatarShall later, rather.


GravatarClear and dry here, so moon viewing should be good tonight.


Gravatar""You got caught by a fat cop!""

I'm not the only one watching "COPS", it appears.


GravatarThere's not what you'd call a lot of tremendously good news these days, is there?

It'll be all we can do up here to keep the lipless wonder from winning a majority, and soon you'll all be living in cardboard boxes being rousted hourly by the cardboard police.


GravatarGood time to invest in mobile homes.


GravatarPalin is gold. Only danger is, much more of this shit and she gets so smelly that McShitstain dumps her.

She ought to remain tied around his turkeyneck, like a stinking old halibut carcass, for the gulls to peck on...
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GravatarIn other news, G/Son and I went to the Nature Center and saw turtles and snakes and bees. We watched a DVD about dinosaurs that starts out, "Our Earth is millions and millions of years old." Take that, you fucking fundies.


GravatarMy recollection of the descent from WY to NE is that there's a fair amount of cattle on both sides. Western NE is very, very desolate once you're in the vicinity of...whatever that town is that starts with an S.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 09.13.08 - 8:38 pm | #


scotts bluff? that's a bit north. i've only been in eastern NE. looks like once you get east of laramie, you start hitting more varied landscape, and from cheyene east more vegetation. i suspect that's where you'd find some cattle ranching.


Gravatar"...the unthinkable is now thinkable..."


GravatarI love it when I score a drive-by.


vroom. vroom.


GravatarHecate, your g/son is very lucky to have you as a grandmother.


GravatarIs there still a site where you can use your stance on real issues to determine the candidate who you most agree with? DL asked today if there was an objective way to compare the candidates and make her choice.


GravatarSo..... "leveraging" means making up money that isn't there, and "de-leveraging" means that money you borrowed to pretend you had money you don't really have has to be paid back.

translates roughly into "shit hitting fan"

Are thirty year old in Manhattan still smoking Cohibas while drinking Louis XV and perusing brochures on that Ferrari sedan?


GravatarGood time to invest in mobile homes.
Ali, uppity


The government has a bunch to sell you. Do you have a breathing apparatus??? It needs to filter out chemical fumes.


GravatarSome NYT wonk on NPR this morning was say that the powers that be had concluded in the last 24 hours that it would be that bad for the market if Lehman went cock up. They just may let it die.


GravatarTake that, you fucking fundies.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


"Fuck you, and the dinosaur you rode in on."


Gravatarlovepat

http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm

like that?


GravatarHecate, your g/son is very lucky to have you as a grandmother

Oh, thanks, but really I'm lucky to have him as an excuse for a second childhood!

We went in and met SteveLG today, too!


GravatarIs there still a site where you can use your stance on real issues to determine the candidate who you most agree with?

right here, baby. what do you want to know?


GravatarOh noes! A company fail? Here in the US? Just why are they special?


GravatarBill Gross, Pimco, made some 1.7 billion [I think it was] when the Fannie and Freddy were 'monetized'

Basically this is about keeping foreign investors happy and giving the dollar a boost.


GravatarGo look at the gorgeous moon in the SE sky

will do in 3 hrs


GravatarBedBug Kow Luvvah

Best new nym in some time.


GravatarWe watched a DVD about dinosaurs that starts out, "Our Earth is millions and millions of years old."

Matt Damon wants to know if Palin thinks there were dinosaurs 4000 years ago.


GravatarTake that, you fucking fundies.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

"Fuck you, and the dinosaur you rode in on."
Dr. Wu


Your dinosaur giving you problems???
Call the Dinosaur Whisperer
1-800-666-wwjd


GravatarMatt Damon wants to know if Palin thinks there were dinosaurs 4000 years ago.

Dude, McCain's not that old.

But Simels is.


Gravatarhttp://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm

like that?
BlueinColorado


Well, shit--apparently I was supposed to vote for Hillary. And Ralph Nader is 4th on my list, despite the fact that I hold him personally responsible for the Chimpster getting elected.

At least McBush is at the bottom.


GravatarGood lord. Palin is Bush squared.

from the NYT article

emocrats and Republicans alike describe her as often missing in action. Since taking office in 2007, Ms. Palin has spent 312 nights at her Wasilla home, some 600 miles to the north of the governor’s mansion in Juneau, records show.

During the last legislative session, some lawmakers became so frustrated with her absences that they took to wearing “Where’s Sarah?” pins.


GravatarMatt Damon wants to know if Palin thinks there were dinosaurs 4000 years ago.

Science?? We don't need no stinkin' science.

[/ PALIN-McCain]


GravatarBest new nym in some time.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

Thanks. Im hoping to make 95k =)


GravatarWe watched a DVD about dinosaurs that starts out, "Our Earth is millions and millions of years old."

Matt Damon wants to know if Palin thinks there were dinosaurs 4000 years ago.


To G/Son, "mean" is the worst thing you can possibly be. He has a list: tyranosaurus rex was mean, pirates were mean, Cruella DeVille was mean, Captain Hook was mean. New addition after a day with his Nonna: John McCain and Sarah Palin are mean. Mean people suck.


GravatarIt's a catch-22, isn't it?

No-one wants to place a value on any Big Shitpile 'assets', which means that the ideal solution is to pretend that Lehman never existed, and airbrush it out of history.


GravatarJust a reminder.

Steven Hawking types on his computer via a sensor that monitors a single muscle in his right cheek. By twitching that muscle, Hawking can send commands to the the computer.

He writes books, physics papers and email, all by twitching one of the few muscles he can still control.

John Sidney McCain III, what's your fucking excuse?


GravatarLehman's drowning in big shitpile, so it just isn't clear what could possibly work.


Has coating with creamy, rich chocolate been tried in this case?
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GravatarIm hoping to make 95k =)

I'm not so greedy. I'd take $25k, as long as it's cash and, not taxed.


GravatarJohn Sidney McCain III, what's your fucking excuse?

I thought McCain and his CrackBerry defused that shit.


GravatarJohn Sidney McCain III, what's your fucking excuse?


POW POW POW

Any questions?

/john sidney mccain


GravatarTPM asks if John McCain were still in the Navy what kind of consequences would he face for telling so many lies.

If John McCain were still in the Navy, we wouldn't have a Naval air fleet. In the short time he was in the Navy and not being held by the North Vietnamese, he crashed 5 planes and destroyed one air craft carrier. I think the North Vietnamese did a favor for the Navy by keeping John away from planes for 5 1/2 years.


GravatarJohn Sidney McCain III, what's your fucking excuse?


Why do you hate America's POWs?


Gravataralright, i'm done.

see ya'll another time.


GravatarCoke to Richard Cranium


GravatarTPM asks if John McCain were still in the Navy what kind of consequences would he face for telling so many lies.

Love that.

And now I think I'll go watch Dr Helen Carter be all enigmatic and sexy and crushin' on me.


GravatarHecate!
Lookit!!!

http://www.aznativeproperties.com/RooPho_new/ Featured_Listings/10620_W_Montecito/ 10620_W_Montecito.htm


GravatarHecate, we had Maddy last night!

Was glorious!

Only bad part was when Maddy got angry at her mommy this morning--and smacked her.  That earned her a heavy time out.

Of course, she saw her father do this to her mother.  That has to be undone.


GravatarThat one jowl muscle will be on the big red button and cant be used for the internet.


GravatarCoke to Richard Cranium

I do believe that's the frist one I've ever received.

Gratzi. I shall mix it appropriately.


GravatarI hope that Ba'al will be liveblogging his movie on SciFi in ten minutes.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA!!!

Did you know that your wonderful cole slaw dressing is also the best dressing in the world for cucumber salad? 


Gravatarhttp:// www.aznativeproperties.co...W_Montecito.htm

Grumble, grumble, grumble....


GravatarPalin: I AM A HUMAN DALEK. I AM YOUR FUTURE!


GravatarPalin couldn't  hope to rise to the level of Daleks.


Gravatar"Of course, she saw her father do this to her mother."

Oh, jeebus! That poor child.


Gravatar"and destroyed one air craft carrier."

you can't blame mccain for the forrestal. wasn't his fault. and it's easily proven not his fault - so I think it ought to be dropped


GravatarChris T, I fear we are bound to be disappointed.

I've got "Horror at Party Beach" on right now.  Monsieur is napping, hence, I got to choose the movie


GravatarDid you know that your wonderful cole slaw dressing is also the best dressing in the world for cucumber salad?

Yes'm.  It is the all round, all purpose Southron salad dressing - just vary the amount of sugar and lemon juice according to purpose.  Excellent for late summer fruit salad too!


Gravatarcurved walls to minimize sun exposure.

Does not compute.


Gravatar"That has to be undone."

and with love it will be undone


GravatarGood lord. Palin is Bush squared.

She's (Bush^Cheney) * Rove.

- Private off-the-books email and Blackberry shit? Check.
- Hire your school pals? Check.
- Vendettas? Check.
- Lie, lady, lie? Check.


GravatarSo, I've got a KymCojones reader who lives in my complex. He says he's got an Agility 125, and he's the guy I saw toolin' around a week or so ago.

But I can't find his scooter here in the 'plex!
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GravatarChris, was more than once. 

Her mom, fortunately, was extremely firm with her.  Mlle worries she's always going to be the Bad Guy; Maddy's father lets her do whatever she wants. 


Gravatarcurved walls to minimize sun exposure.

Does not compute.

Too much refraction of the light.


Gravatar Grumble, grumble, grumble....

Wow. I could almost afford that. Just how bad is that neighbourhood?


GravatarCooking with Beardy Man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...h? v=Ow7IwpoU7Vk


Gravatar"Sun".  Big.  Shiny.  Radiates heat. 
"Heat".  The opposite of normal, eg. "cold".


GravatarLike that! Thanks Blue. She is in sync with Obama- just have to prove it to her...


Gravatar"Mlle worries she's always going to be the Bad Guy;"

They'll do ok

really


GravatarWow. I could almost afford that. Just how bad is that neighbourhood?

Considerably less than I first thought.  It's kinda variable.  In 1981, when it was built, it was empty desert, pretty much.  Now, not so much. 


GravatarSally, so, those things in the mouths of the "monsters" that look like hot dogs?

They're hot dogs. Seriously.

Gotta love movies that utilize beef and pork byproducts as part of the monster prosthetics.


GravatarPalin: I AM A HUMAN DALEK. I AM YOUR FUTURE!
http://www.dwwa.net/dr4/Destiny/...stiny/ obey3.wav
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Gravataryou can't blame mccain for the forrestal. wasn't his fault. and it's easily proven not his fault - so I think it ought to be dropped.

Naaaaaaaaaaah.

Making it the subject of a couple of books, a few websites, and a never-ending email smear campaign could be in order though.


Gravatar- Private off-the-books email and Blackberry shit? Check.
- Hire your school pals? Check.
- Vendettas? Check.
- Lie, lady, lie? Check.



Never showed up at the Alabama National Guard? Check.
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GravatarOSU 3
USC 7


Gravatar"Making it the subject of a couple of books, a few websites, and a never-ending email smear campaign could be in order though."

Oh I know the repugs'd do it if the situation was reversed - but the sheeple will not react well to an attack like that.

I think it ought to be dropped. Better to call him a bomber pilot rather than a fighter pilot and such than make shit up.

Mccain didn't cause the forrestal accident and I don't see the value in claiming he did


GravatarLehman is where Jeb Bush has a no-show job that he got in exchange for selling a huge portion of the big shitpile to the state of Florida.


GravatarEvening, bats.

Some sad news from California. Peter Camejo has died, according to the Sacramento Bee.

Unfortunately, most people will remember him as Ralph Nader's 2004 (I think) running mate for the Green Party, but Peter did a whole lot more in California, including work unceasingly for civil rights.

Hopefully tomorrow's L.A. Times and SacBee will have a more proper obit for this gentleman.


GravatarThis clinches it. Doug Feith loses his title as Stupidest Motherfucker on the Planet
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From NBC's First Read ...

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said this to the Politico about the increased media scrutiny of the campaign's factual claims: "We're running a campaign to win. And we're not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it."
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Could this Brian be "our" Brian?


GravatarGotta love movies that utilize beef and pork byproducts as part of the monster prosthetics.

Absolutely!  The mark of quality cinema!


GravatarDiane, I'm saddened to hear that. 


Gravatar48 Hours Mystery tonight is about a murder in Alaska ... one of the women interviewed in the set-up said that Alaska is a place where "bad people go to get away."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


GravatarI'm sure someone has pointed out you don't really need typing skills to use the interwebs.

You really don't even need hands.


GravatarHe's called Terrelle Pryor.

PUT HIM IN THE FUCKING GAME.


GravatarMcCain't can hire "little people" to use the Intarwebs for him. And he does.

That's all you need to know.
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GravatarI'm sure someone has pointed out you don't really need typing skills to use the interwebs.

You really don't even need hands.
edub | 09.13.08 - 9:07 pm | #

McCain isn't interested enough in the world around him to bother. That's what this story really says to me.


GravatarThanks, Sallyh.

I met Peter Camejo a couple of times, and he was a classy gentleman, one who didn't consider being called a liberal an insult.


Gravatar"We're running a campaign to win. And we're not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it."

He's just being honest. They learned long ago they needn't care. And as to stupid - we'll see. McCain is playing a dangerous game, but right now he's still apparently winning it. I would have said it can't be sustained, but I no longer have any confidence in my grasp of US politics.


Gravatar"McCain isn't interested enough in the world around him to bother. That's what this story really says to me."

I think this is exactly right. It is not unlike asking him what he reads. that's a question I like to ask when I can cause I think it says a lot about someone.

What do you think McCain reads


GravatarI think criticising McLame's internet skillz could backfire, because many many seniors don't know how to use a computer.


GravatarMcCain isn't interested enough in the world around him to bother. That's what this story really says to me.
Brooklyn Girl, sockpuppet


Precisely.

The POW!!! is just an excuse.


GravatarWhere are all these Liberal Judges.

I've been practicing 25 years.

I have yet to go in front of one.


GravatarWhat do you think McCain reads
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


It sure ain't the operating manuals.


GravatarTry this on for size, you librul whiny bitchEZ:

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McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said this to the Politico about the increased media scrutiny of the campaign's factual claims: "We're running a campaign to win. And we're not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it."


GravatarI think criticising McLame's internet skillz could backfire, because many many seniors don't know how to use a computer.
passerby


I think you might be surprised at how many of us "seniors" not only know how to use a computer but use it daily to read international news and to blog.

And get offa my fuckin' lawn.


Gravatar"I think criticising McLame's internet skillz could backfire, because many many seniors don't know how to use a computer."

doubt it. cause many many seniors do know how.


GravatarUncle Blodge: What do you think McCain reads

What his handlers hand to him, on paper, basically.
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GravatarI dunno about the rest of you, but I don't want the President of the United States anywhere near a fucking keyboard.

Unless s/he can play like Harry Truman.


GravatarI'm middling to the thread, but

"Dear Son and Daughter:

I tried. I really did.

Sorry about the fucking mess.

Love,

Dad"
--Richard Cranium,

That's how I feel now.

What a glorious mess we are leaving for our kids and grandkids. Makes me want to cry.


GravatarSo, let's commiserate over cheap beer, and good music.
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GravatarGomez, I don't think we have any in Los Angeles County, although Diane would be the authority on this.


GravatarI think criticising McLame's internet skillz could backfire

He could be a role model for all Internet-inept Americans by just admitting to his disability.

He could even sign the Americans With Internet-Ineptabilities Act to show his true support.


GravatarI think criticising McLame's internet skillz could backfire, because many many seniors don't know how to use a computer.
passerby

Naww, my parents are senior and both use the computer, as their friends do, and know how to burn cds, download email attachments, open them, etc etc. They travel with a laptop and know how to use wifi. Sure, there are those who dont care for computers, my younger brother for example, my neighbors, who I have offered to give a computer, younger than me, refused it.

But McCain is in DC, with an office full of computers, fax machines etc, he was a pilot, so I know he understands technology,and most of all hes a senator who should be doing all he can to be up to date.


GravatarThis page (for what it's worth) says only 32% of people aged 65+ use the internet:
http://www.pewinternet.org/ trend...emo_4.26.06.htm


GravatarFucking fuck. David Foster Wallace killed himself:

http://www.latimes.com/news/ loca...0,7461856.story


GravatarWhat do you think McCain reads
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher | Homepage | 09.13.08 - 9:12 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]

Sailor Moon.


Gravatarby the way, Bob Edwards did a very good interview with Thomas Frank today about his new book. There's a podcast up for download at Edwards' site.


GravatarGomez, I don't think we have any in Los Angeles County, although Diane would be the authority on this.
Sallyh


Whether we have liberal judges or not, the state has passed some really draconian criminal punishment laws (e.g., "Three Strikes") so it doesn't really matter how liberal the judge might be.


GravatarOH MY!!!!

ANOTHER LIE!!!!

The great energy expert, Sarah Palin lies about Alaska's energy production. Says Alaska produces 20% of the nations energy, when in FACT it only produces 3.5%.

JOHN MCCAIN IS A BIG FAT LIAR!!! He said "Palin knows more about energy than anyone else in the United States".


GravatarWhat a glorious mess we are leaving for our kids and grandkids. Makes me want to cry.

Thanks for the shoutout, mer.

Makes me lose sleep every night.


GravatarWhat do you think McCain reads?

The hawt librarian monthly?

[kidding]


GravatarSailor Moon.
therealhellkitty



soda-----> monitor


GravatarDamn, hell uva heat spike:
Jefferson, NC

dt time airt dewpt
09/12 10:23 am 73 68

09/12 10:41 am 120 118

09/12 11:01 am 70 70

NWS map in the SF Chron said it was the national high temp. Yeah, right.


Gravatarfoolme1ns: The great energy expert, Sarah Palin lies about Alaska's energy production. Says Alaska produces 20% of the nations energy, when in FACT it only produces 3.5%.

I could be misremembering, but I think she claimed that ALaska produced 20% of domestic oil production. I would have thought that figure to be higher, though.
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Gravatar
JOHN MCCAIN IS A BIG FAT LIAR!!! He said "Palin knows more about energy than anyone else in the United States".


And, she was made the Chair of the Energy Committee of the National Governors Conference - but doesn't seem to have bothered to attend....


GravatarMy Mom, who turned 77 on 8/8/08, plays Pogo.com, and emails me all the time. She loves her new 19" monitor because when she prepares taxes (her vocation) she can see so many more columns than before.

And she sure as fuck ain't voting for McWhosit.


GravatarOn page 16 of the most recent issue of Newsweek, there's a blow-up of the message on the teleprompter when Cindy McCain came on stage with her kids:

(She hugs them)

That's right. The teleprompter told her to hug her kids.


Gravatar
But McCain is in DC, with an office full of computers, fax machines etc, he was a pilot, so I know he understands technology,and most of all hes a senator who should be doing all he can to be up to date.


But, but...he was a POW!!!!!

He got left behind in the technology revolution of 1972!!!!

Give the guy a break!!

[/snark]


GravatarThis POW Thing-

I had an Uncle Alex. Uncle Alex was a WWII POW. He reqularly beat up my Aunt and sexually abused my cousins.

When my Aunt left him he stalked her and beat her up again. The cops let my Uncle go. Why? He was a POW.


GravatarThis page (for what it's worth) says only 32% of people aged 65+ use the internet:
http://www.pewinternet.org/ trend...emo_4.26.06.htm
passerby


That's a fair response, passerby, so I'll back off a little.

However, when you look at the economic and racial background, the numbers seem to speak more of a money reason than an age reason for non-use of the internet.


GravatarMcLyingSackO'Shit.
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GravatarI think you might be surprised at how many of us "seniors" not only know how to use a computer but use it daily to read international news and to blog.

No idea about the real numbers, but the witches were having this conversation at dinner tonight and everyone's parents use the internet. At least to send e-mails, get pics of grandkids, etc.


GravatarI could be misremembering, but I think she claimed that ALaska produced 20% of domestic oil production. I would have thought that figure to be higher, though.
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Jeffraham Prestonian

I think she also meant natural gas. Even so much of the natural gas is pumped back into the ground in Prudhoe bay.


GravatarI guarantee you that McCain has beat up his wife on more than one occasion.


GravatarFucking fuck. David Foster Wallace killed himself:

http://www.latimes.com/news/ loca...0,7461856.story
pseudonymous in nc


Fucking fuck about sums it up.

Christ.

He's who Eschaton is named after.


GravatarJOHN MCCAIN IS A BIG FAT LIAR!!! He said "Palin knows more about energy than anyone else in the United States".

John, you should come hunting with me. You might learn something.

Dick Cheney.


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Gravatar
That's right. The teleprompter told her to hug her kids.


somebody must have pissed off the producer who was responsible for that feed. they kept cutting to the back-of-speaker camera, giving everyone a faceful of teleprompter.


GravatarPlus, even if I didn't use the technology myself, I want a president who understands it.


GravatarSo, how come Bear Stearns gets a taxpayer bailout but Lehman doesn't?


GravatarI could be misremembering, but I think she claimed that ALaska produced 20% of domestic oil production. I would have thought that figure to be higher, though.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
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From Factcheck.org

Palin claims Alaska "produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." That's not true.

Alaska did produce 14 percent of all the oil from U.S. wells last year, but that's a far cry from all the "energy" produced in the U.S.

Alaska's share of domestic energy production was 3.5 percent, according to the official figures kept by the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

And if by "supply" Palin meant all the energy consumed in the U.S., and not just produced here, then Alaska's production accounted for only 2.4 percent.


GravatarSo, how come Bear Stearns gets a taxpayer bailout but Lehman doesn't?
davedave | 09.13.08 - 9:26 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]

Triage.


GravatarI guess I'm for Ohio State here. I hate both teams, but I can't stand to watch any more of what Oklahoma is doing to the Huskies.

At least the Tide is winning.


Gravatarsomebody must have pissed off the producer who was responsible for that feed. they kept cutting to the back-of-speaker camera, giving everyone a faceful of teleprompter.
theo. of athens, more caption | Homepage | 09.13.08 - 9:26 pm | #


I just think it's amazing/sad/disgusting that the convention was choreographed right down to a phony display of emotion.


GravatarPUT. IN. PRYOR.


GravatarPlus, even if I didn't use the technology myself, I want a president who understands it.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


BINGO!

Especially since all sorts of weaponry depend on it.


GravatarPavel Zaburuev

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j...h? v=jfChLqQL3Qs


GravatarI met Peter Camejo a couple of times, and he was a classy gentleman, one who didn't consider being called a liberal an insult.

Yeah, but he was a COMMIE! And Raygun said he was DANGEROUS!


GravatarHecate: Plus, even if I didn't use the technology myself, I want a president who understands it.

Many of the rich, powerful and incurious view computer usage as something for clerical temps to do for them.
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GravatarGive the guy a break!! [/snark]
Richard Cranium, Not Vetted


I have worked with many pilots and they, for the most part, love technology, pushing buttons, turning dials. Using the radar to 'paint' the ground.


GravatarFrom an archive dated 5/19/02

He wonders why this place is called Eschaton. Surprisingly, he's the first one to ask. When I decided to start this my brain quickly tried to retrieve from its recesses some obscure-yet-appropriate reference to, well, something, and it offered up this one. It refers to a small passage in David Foster Wallace's monster book Infinite Jest in which students at a private tennis academy play a complicated game called Eschaton. It's a strange half-explained simulation of WWIII, sort of a Risk-like wargame played on tennis courts, with tennis ball bombardment representing nuclear bombardment. The game has arcane rules requiring a computer to compute the value of each "hit" based on position, trajectory, etc... In the passage the game eventually gets completely out of hand and the rules break down.


Gravatarthanks kitty. I fugured it was something like that. Welcome to the third world.


GravatarHecate, I want a president who appreciates the importance of science and technology--and is willing to put his or her money where their mouths are.


GravatarMany of the rich, powerful and incurious view computer usage as something for clerical temps to do for them.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 09.13.08 - 9:28 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]

let them eat pixels?


GravatarNo IT expert here, but if for nothing more than teh Google, I'd want to know how to turn this thing on.

But I'm kind of attracted to facts.


GravatarBrian | 09.13.08 - 9:28 pm

Brian, I really like your TBR site.


GravatarMany of the rich, powerful and incurious view computer usage as something for clerical temps to do for them.

And driving, and what type of car(s) they own, and keeping track of how many houses they own, and the wife's expense account, etc. etc.

Regular 'mericans, in other words. Can't be bothered with the insignificant crap.


GravatarBut I'm kind of attracted to facts.
noblejoanie | 09.13.08 - 9:29 pm | #


Yeah. To me, he's utterly disinterested in the world around him. No curiosity. No connection.


GravatarI guarantee you that McCain has beat up his wife on more than one occasion.

Nah - remember, I used to work for the Fire Department.  Paramedics knew every clown in town who beat up their wives and, not being cops or doctors, dished.  I could tell u who does, but McCain doesn't.  For what it's worth.


Gravatarn the passage the game eventually gets completely out of hand and the rules break down.

As do most of our threads.


GravatarMy heart goes out to Wallace's wife. We're still bleeding from the wounds our friend's suicide left in our hearts two months ago.


GravatarSarah Palin special on Cnn. Are you paying attention? No you're not paying attention, you don't give a shit if the public is widely deceived.


Gravatar"I came to Casablanca for the waters."

"What waters? We're in the middle of the desert."

"I was misinformed."


GravatarFor the person who, according to John McCain, knows more about energy than any other person in the United States, she should know how much energy her own state produces. She doesn't.

Sarah Palin is dumb as a post and a damned LIAR.

JOHN MCCAIN IS A DAMNED LIAR TOO.


GravatarI betcha if McCain't were kidnapped, and put in a nice, comfy hotel-room-like cell, complete with PC and broadband, he'd have teh pr0n on the screen inside a few hours.
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GravatarNah - remember, I used to work for the Fire Department. Paramedics knew every clown in town who beat up their wives and, not being cops or doctors, dished. I could tell u who does, but McCain doesn't. For what it's worth.

GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 09.13.08 - 9:31 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]

He may not slap her around but I can tell you that he does abuse his wife.
Calling her a C*&% in public or private is indicative of his treatment of her.


GravatarNah - remember, I used to work for the Fire Department. Paramedics knew every clown in town who beat up their wives and, not being cops or doctors, dished. I could tell u who does, but McCain doesn't. For what it's worth.

GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian


"Why did Cindy McCain become a drug addict who, Phoenix doctors claim, at least three times sought medical attention for injuries consonant with physical violence?"

From www.counterpunch.com


GravatarYeah. To me, he's utterly disinterested in the world around him. No curiosity. No connection.
Brooklyn Girl, sockpuppet


All you need to worry about is the Rapture and the end-times. John and I think alike.


GravatarSarah Palin special on Cnn. Are you paying attention? No you're not paying attention, you don't give a shit if the public is widely deceived.
snake | 09.13.08 - 9:31 pm | #


Um ... actually, you must not be the one paying attention. We've been screaming about her since she was nominated.


GravatarYeah. To me, he's utterly disinterested in the world around him. No curiosity. No connection.
Brooklyn Girl, sockpuppet


On the bright side, that will be a nice contrast to the current occupant.

We are so fucking screwed if. . .


GravatarHercate

Don't know about you but love when I take my grandkids out and feed the dirty water hotdogs, soda and other crap their mother freaks out on. Makes me smile as I look upon it as a little payback for all the grief (not a lot) but it is fun..

Gawd I wish I were a kid again and all I had to do was worry about whether or not I did my homework and if I could get that homerun. No worries about money, social issues, wars....life was beautiful


GravatarBTW, there is another poll which has some interesting numbers on elders' use of computers and the internet, located on Time Goes By, one of my daily must-reads.


Gravatar"I came to Casablanca for the waters."

"What waters? We're in the middle of the desert."

"I was misinformed."


Greatest movie of all time. Seriously. The political parallels to our current quandary in the U.S. are striking.

Not to mention the love interest.


Gravatar"I was misinformed."

One of my favorite exchanges in my favorite movie ever.


GravatarSheets above


GravatarMcCain wont have a Cheney. Palin would, if elected alongside McCain, be pretty much a lame duck. A neophyte.


GravatarSarah Palin special on Cnn. Are you paying attention? No you're not paying attention, you don't give a shit if the public is widely deceived.


Why don't you give us the Cliff Notes, Einstein?


Gravatarn the passage the game eventually gets completely out of hand and the rules break down.

As do most of our threads.
Supreme Commander Thor


You haz rules????

But I'm like McCain. I don't read manuals.


Gravatar I want a president who appreciates the importance of science and technology-

Seriously. If for no single other reason than global warming.

I still remember bursting into tears when Kerry said, "Imagine what it would be like to have a president who believed in science."

What a terrible, terrible, terrible waste of 8 years it has been.


Gravatargrumpyoldvet, isn't it great being a grandparent?

You can spoil them and then let the parents deal with the fallout.

I always say that grandparents and grandchildren have a special bond--we share a common enemy


GravatarNot to mention the love interest.

Yvonne was my fave, actually, but Ilse was no slouch.


GravatarYeah, now that I think of it, most everyone recognises that the internet is an important skill, whether they use it or not.


GravatarBut I'm like McCain. I don't read manuals.

I'm a computer programmer.

What's a manual?


Gravataryou don't give a shit if the public is widely deceived

Which is why Atrios has been posting all week about the McCain lies.


GravatarHecate, when I've looked at what's been funded in the last 8 years, I could cry. 

But mostly, I just get intensely pissed off.


GravatarEspecially since all sorts of weaponry depend on it.

I have been an engineer in the defense industry. The effectiveness of computer-controlled weapon systems has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the President of the United States understands computers. Nothing. At all.

The appropriate use of weapons is what the President has a whole lot to do with, and for that it's far more important for him to understand what the weapons do, not how they do them. It's possible to understand either while being totally ignorant of the other.


GravatarUm ... actually, you must not be the one paying attention. We've been screaming about her since she was nominated.

Yeah? Well this is kid gloves and worse than Fox. I've never even heard of the guy doing the report. They just showed a picture of Palin wrapped in an american flag and they interviewed one of the guys she fired and the interviewer said, 'It sounds like sour grapes to me, the current mayor says she did a good job, why can't you just say she was a good mayor....you can't say it can you?'


GravatarPhoenix doctors claim, at least three times sought medical attention for injuries consonant with physical violence?"

All I can tell u is that the paramedics never were called for her. 


GravatarAnd that's not all, folks....

WAMU-SCAMU! -- pay very close attention to late Friday afternoons in the coming week(s):

Wild day for WaMu -- Stock rises on sale rumor, drops after it's debunked
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/ bu...964_wamu13.html

Dueling rumors, speculation and predictions about the fate of Washington Mutual Inc. whipsawed the company's battered stock Friday, but it finished the day all of 10 cents lower than its closing price the day before.

WaMu stock surged to $3.29 after American Banker reported that JPMorgan Chase is in "advanced discussions" to buy Washington Mutual. The publication said the discussions involve top executives at both companies, including Alan Fishman, who has been chief executive of WaMu since Monday.

But after other news outlets debunked the report, WaMu slipped back to a close of $2.73 a share. The company said it doesn't comment on takeover speculation.

At Friday's closing price WaMu's stock is down 92 percent from a year ago.


You know that a publicly-traded corporated is in very big trouble when its stock climbs on a rumor only to tank the same day when the rumor is debunked and grim reality brings down the house of cards!

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GravatarBut I'm like McCain. I don't read manuals.

McCain HAD to read manuals to understand what he was flying and how it operated. The military loves manuals.


GravatarSC Thor, so RTFM is for the little people?


GravatarErrata -- last paragraph:

corporated = corporation

Sorry, it must have been the wine.

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GravatarAt Friday's closing price WaMu's stock is down 92 percent from a year ago.

Didnt Atrios post on WaMu a little while back on its high % rates for bonds or COD's [which signals troubles]


GravatarSC Thor, so RTFM is for the little people?

Two things you learn about manuals as a programmer:

Most aren't written worth a damn so they're not worth reading.

"This Page Intentionally Left Blank" isn't.


GravatarWild day for WaMu -- Stock rises on sale rumor, drops after it's debunked

How come the girl on the radio tells me I'll get the "Whoo-whoo" feeling if I sign up with them?


GravatarI add very little here to these comments, but detract little too, so you're out nothing except three seconds of your life for reading my drivvel...

To answer:

So, how come Bear Stearns gets a taxpayer bailout but Lehman doesn't?
davedave

I "heard" that Bear Stearns happened too fast; it crashed quickly; whereas LB had 6 months to rectify their balance sheets...

You may resume your regular Palin-ectomy.


Gravatarthe game eventually gets completely out of hand and the rules break down. - edub

I think I worked on that release.


GravatarSupreme Commander Thor | 09.13.08 - 9:46 pm | #

Be afraid -- be very afraid -- because I fear that nothing can save WAMU now. It's gone the way of all toast.

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GravatarSallyeh....

Ah yes sweet revenge....Ismile like the Cheshire Cat which drives my daughter nuts...

Hey Blue In Colorado...

When I was a pup and starting out on Wall Street 30 year olds don't give a shit. Their mantra is tomorrow is another day and I'll make it. It's only when you ge wizened & realize the ganmes that are being played you smarten up.

Story..when I first started in the business I thought stocks were evrything. This was the 80s and a mentor used to recommend stocks to his clents. I tracked them and for the most part the stocks performed well. When I asked him about his personal portfolio and the stocks he had he smiled and said he owned no stocks. Surprised I said BUT< BUT..He said "Why would I invest in stocks when I can get a guaranteed US Trerasury Bond paying 15%".

But those days are sadly over and we get 4% for 30 years, tho with deflation coming may not be bad idea though I would probably sit with 5 year CDs or T Bills for now.


GravatarD. F. Wallace sheet up, folks.


GravatarSo, how come Bear Stearns gets a taxpayer bailout but Lehman doesn't?
davedave

I would say, after looking at their sheets, as it were, they dont hold any real value. And I guess what they do have will be transferred to Freddy and Fanny which will guarantee the holders payment thru monetization.

This is speculation, of course.


GravatarIn other words, Lehman will be bailed out thru Freddy and Fannie, no need to do a Stearns.

Either way its a taxpayer bailout.


GravatarBed Bug..

Believe or not many of my friends on Wall Street are scratching their heads over this. They cannot figure what in the hell is going on and are having trouble playing the market.

These people are capitalists and they think Paulsen is nuts.

Having dinner with them next weekend and it should be fun.


GravatarSo, how come Bear Stearns gets a taxpayer bailout but Lehman doesn't?

After the Bear Stearns and Freddie/Fannie taxpayer bailouts, there comes a point at which the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury simply run out of printing paper and green ink -- and that moment is fast approaching like a high-speed bullet train.

And the moral of this "moral hazard" story? No banking and/or brokerage institution is too big to fail.

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GravatarMc8Track


GravatarYou mean all that leveraging creating imaginary wealth wasn't real after all? Whocoodanowda?


Gravatar"SCHIP is socialism. Bailouts rule"-repubs


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