HULK SMASH!!!

GravatarWee!


GravatarGoing for 2nd...


GravatarBingo.
.


GravatarOr is that "banjo"?
.


Gravatar"Awesome mantra, yer holiness..."


GravatarHappy Birthday Mom!


GravatarIs that the historian way of saying 'bless your heart'?

Pretty close. Rule of thumb is, if you trained as something and are credentialled as something, you don't really get to spring off into entirely new territory with the same qualifications....

GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.26.08 - 3:46 pm | #


Nope, but he's convinced others that he's totally qualified to speak about things that he knows nothing about because it falls under the umbrella of 'history.' And he's a historian! So he must know what he's talking about.


GravatarI call Bush his Holy Shittiness.


GravatarHappy Birthday Mom!
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 3:49 pm |


Happy birthday to Prior's Mom!

(And to my middle sister in California-I really should write or call her or something)


GravatarI shall hence refer to Tim Graham as His Assholiness


GravatarHappy Birthday to Prior's Mom!


GravatarOr is that "banjo"?
.
Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 3:47 pm |


What news from the job front?


GravatarIf Pelosi would just wear a flag pin she could call him Dalai dear and get away with it.


GravatarDalai Lama: His Holiness

George Bush: Assholeishness


GravatarI remember Elie Wiesel was for going to war with Iraq! What was he doing there?


GravatarHoly moley.


GravatarWho the fuck is Tim Graham?


GravatarWhen Speaker Pelosi wore a scarf on her head it was treason. When Condi Rice and Laurabot did the exact same thing, not so much.

Wingnut logic. Or non-logic, if you want to get picky about it.


GravatarDownload this:

TRANSMETROPOLITAN
(the complete Transmetropolitan comic series)

Right now. Get a Bit Torrent client. Right now.

Get a "Comic Book Reader" application. Right now.

(Google is your friend!)

See how a guy in England who writes comic books for a living had George Bush's FULL FUCKING NUMBER before the fucker was even elected.

Read them. Read them and lament that it was a FUCKING comic book author in England who told us all we needed to know about George Fucking Bush in a goddamned COMIC BOOK.

And not the NY Times or the Washington Post.



GravatarNope, but he's convinced others that he's totally qualified to speak about things that he knows nothing about because it falls under the umbrella of 'history.' And he's a historian! So he must know what he's talking about.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.26.08 - 3:50 pm | #


If we are talking about Niall, he has very good credentials for WWI. He just happens to be an idiot and a producer of shoddy crap.


GravatarI'm a fan of the Dalai Lama.

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/bree...lama/ llama1.jpg


GravatarOh sweet mother of murgatroyd. GET RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS!


GravatarStooopid NewsBusters.
Exposing Themselves Daily.


Gravatar
Right now. Get a Bit Torrent client. Right now.


You're not the boss of me, man!


Gravatarbo, you still around?


GravatarOh sweet mother of murgatroyd. GET RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS!
Hecate


I'll drink to that.


GravatarOh sweet mother of murgatroyd. GET RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


What would remain? Just graft, I guess.


GravatarI wish the Dems would learn that they will never be "as religious" as the Repukes so they should just quit trying. They should fight violently for a separation of church and state.


GravatarNope, but he's convinced others that he's totally qualified to speak about things that he knows nothing about because it falls under the umbrella of 'history.' And he's a historian! So he must know what he's talking about.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.26.08 - 3:50 pm | #

If we are talking about Niall, he has very good credentials for WWI. He just happens to be an idiot and a producer of shoddy crap.
rootless-e | 04.26.08 - 3:54 pm


Exactly, he does know that one subject, and apparently he doesn't suck at it, but he doesn't know shit about anything else and the media have given him the freedom to spout off as an academic, when I have yet to see a column on what he actually knows, Germany's WWI Economy.

And in an column late last year in the LAT he mentioned how well the stock market was doing, so therefore the economy must be doing fine as well.

If an economic historian can't figure out that the stock market and the economy aren't the same things, what else am I supposed to trust him on.


GravatarThe Clinton campaign just made the mistake of calling me.


GravatarZOMG!!! That probably violates the Logan act too, right? We Got Her Now!!!


GravatarYes, get religion out of politics -- especially the Church of England bishops out of the House of Lords! Of course the Dalai Lama is a god-king, so that is sort of religion & politics combined no matter what -- I still like him very much -- we monks understand each other on a non-doctrinal level


GravatarI wish the Dems would learn that they will never be "as religious" as the Repukes so they should just quit trying

so it's Mr. Lama?


GravatarI wish the Dems would learn that they will never be "as religious" as the Repukes so they should just quit trying

so it's Mr. Lama?
el | 04.26.08 - 3:59 p


It's 'Yo! Dude!'


GravatarThe Clinton campaign just made the mistake of calling me.





Somehow, the Obama campaign got my work number. I keep telling the nice young man no, he keeps calling back. Reminds me of Vicki every time because he cannot pronounce my name.


GravatarPrior Aelred, this large jam-filled doughnut in Finland is called a monk.



GravatarWALKEN INTERVENTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h? v=4RITuCVqbwY


GravatarThe Clinton campaign just made the mistake of calling me

well?


GravatarIsn't His Holiness reserved for the Chimperor? He has a direct line to God.


GravatarThe Clinton campaign just made the mistake of calling me.


What did you tell them?


GravatarSteveLG,

How was your dinner at Olive the other night?


GravatarI read the comments to the CNN story about the Clinton fundraiser leaping to the Obama campaign. Over 200 comments, and I read them all. They are moderated, so who knows what had been actually sent in. But it was a very disheartening experience to read on the anger and rage.


GravatarIsn't His Holiness reserved for the Chimperor? He has a direct line to God.

His correct title is Ass Holiness.


GravatarBasic courtesy usually means addressing people in the appropriate manner -- for instance, in the monastery, we never address each other simply by name, but always preface it with the appropriate title (this is in our Rule) -- you don't have to be Greek to address someone as "His Beatitude" or whatever.

The point is that wingnuts are insane & should be put to sleep (or at the very least sterilized & lose their franchise).


GravatarBush has holes in his brain from mad cow disease.


GravatarWhat did you tell them?
billy b

That she has stated she does not favour MoveOn and the Democratic Activists = me = her center, left and right guards.
Take me off your list please.


GravatarExactly, he does know that one subject, and apparently he doesn't suck at it, but he doesn't know shit about anything else and the media have given him the freedom to spout off as an academic, when I have yet to see a column on what he actually knows, Germany's WWI Economy.

Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 04.26.08 - 3:58 pm | #


Actually, if you read Cash Nexus, you can see a pretty comprehensive outline of ignorance with no glimmers of real knowledge or of really any idea what real knowledge would be like. The point is, however, that a first from oxford in history, a cambridge fellowship and academic apointments in history at oxford and then harvard are really top notch credentials. His problem is not credentials.


GravatarThat she has stated she does not favour MoveOn and the Democratic Activists = me = her center, left and right guards.
Take me off your list please.


heh.


GravatarHey billy b, gonna go plant hops, play music and watch baseball. Later!


GravatarBuckeye: What news from the job front?

The lady that has the intra-college scoop says I have it, and they're just interviewing some folx as a formality. But until I am offered the position, I'm Mr. Timesheet.
.


GravatarEchidne --

I thought that was named for Bismark!

Is daughter #1 still in good health? #2 still "in love"?


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ErinPDX! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

How may I be of service?
.


Gravataryes jeff, been workin hard, email to follow


Gravatars daughter #1 still in good health? #2 still "in love"?

Yes, to both. And there was a wedding for #2, too.


GravatarErinPDX: yes jeff, been workin hard, email to follow

I need a shave. And to find the miniDV tape I can't find.
.


GravatarI've been pretty put off by a lot of the over the top Hillary hatred that has been expressed here, but the fact of the matter is that it seems like every day her campaign does something that makes me wish that she would simply go away.


GravatarHis correct title is Ass Holiness.
billy b


So correct for Nancy to address HIM as "your ass-holiness?"


GravatarIsn't the "Media Research Center" that absolute fucktard Bozell's outfit?


GravatarWonder if they could get Stephy and Gibson to moderate?


MARION, Ind. - Democratic rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton turned up the rhetoric Saturday in their increasingly heated primary battle as she issued a new debate challenge and he complained of a race that's largely been reduced to trivia while working families feel economic pain.

Clinton took the debate dispute to a new level, challenging Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.

"Just the two of us, going for 90 minutes, asking and answering questions, we'll set whatever rules seem fair," Clinton said while campaigning in South Bend.

Her campaign made the offer formal with a letter to the Obama campaign. Obama aides said they were studying the letter.


GravatarDamn. I stepped on something in the rug. No blood and I see no hole in my foot, but it hurts a lot.


GravatarDog v. Cat diary
.


GravatarEchidne --

Is the wedding to one the she's in love with?



GravatarIs the wedding to one the she's in love with?

I hope so.


GravatarI've been pretty put off by a lot of the over the top Hillary hatred that has been expressed here, but the fact of the matter is that it seems like every day her campaign does something that makes me wish that she would simply go away.

Any antipathy I have towards Hillary has a lot to do with the absolute fucking asstards she insists on surrounding herself with, for example, Gollum Carville who quite literally sleeps with The Enemy.


GravatarMost Americans don't know Obama's history of felony grand theft auto and hard drug abuse.

Once they do, or once they realize just how racist he is, or even how far-left his voting record is, he will lose by a landslide.

He will never be President.

He has only gotten this far because the press has had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy about him.

Republicans will tell everything.

Once People know the truth about Obama, he won't even stand a chance of being re-elected to the Senate.

He'll be lucky not to wind up in jail for what he did in Chicago.


Gravatari think edwards exit from the race has hurt obama. Obama's campaign really took off after Edwards ridiculed both Obama and Hillary for their silly trivia fight in the last 3 person debate. But the lesson has faded and he keeps forgetting to box.


GravatarHe'll be lucky not to wind up in jail for what he did in Chicago.

"Dear Penthouse..."
.


GravatarBugs | 04.26.08 - 4:11 pm |

FORP


GravatarIt's where she places the emphasis that makes her saying it different from Bush's.


GravatarRepublicans will tell everything

ok Bugs, start telling...


GravatarObama is not a leftist and neither is Clinton. They would both be viewed as moderate right in Europe. I'm tired of the wingnut framing about how radical they are.


GravatarBuckeye: What news from the job front?

The lady that has the intra-college scoop says I have it, and they're just interviewing some folx as a formality. But until I am offered the position, I'm Mr. Timesheet.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 4:05 pm | #


Crossing fingers/crossing toes.

I remember when I applied to become a 'real' employee from a temp, I was worried that I wouldn't get it because two other current employees had applied. I was informed by someone in the loop 'you'll get it, you already know what you're in for and can prove you can handle it, they don't really know.'

I got the job and transferred to another dept 6 months later.


GravatarAnd to find the miniDV tape I can't find.

Maybe NTodd has it?

/ducks and runs


GravatarRepublicans will bring up Rev Wright. "Obama's Slums", Rezko, Obama's extreme left-wing voting record and associates, and Obama's total lack of experience and suitability to be POTUS.

By the time they are done, nobody will vote for Obama except a few left wing nut jobs and the diaper crowd.

Obama is arrogant, incompetent, has a heart of solid ice, and has lost every debate.

Hillary has won the popular vote, just like Gore did.

Obama has blocked Florida's and Michigan's votes, just like Bush blocked Florida's votes.

Obama has run the dirtiest campaign in years while the press has painted him as a saint.

Obama has "gamed the system" and has lied and cheated his way to where he is now.

If he forces the DNC to give him the nomination, both he and the Democratic Party will lose.


GravatarQOTD:

Do folks sincerely refer to pizza as 'za'?


GravatarErinPDX: Maybe NTodd has it?

I hadn't considered that!
.


GravatarObama is not a leftist and neither is Clinton. They would both be viewed as moderate right in Europe.

I think that's exactly right. I've said over and over, I've never gotten to vote for a presidential candidate even close to my political position.


GravatarOh, look. It's Allen and his tiny, useless penis.

Go away, Allen, the adults are having a chat.


Gravatar"Me and my llama
Wearin' our pajamas..."
/Sesame Street


GravatarEchidne --

Exactly -- two moderate/centrist Democrats whose policy positions are not significant enough to make a difference -- one of the reasons I favored Edwards (besides the fact that sine the Civil Rights Act the Democrats have only been able to get bubbas through the Electoral College) -- although in fact, Kucinich & Dodd were actually closer to my own views -- but the Republican right wing nuts will smear any Democrats as a dangerous leftist & by not responding we keep letting them move the goalposts even further


Gravatarthink that's exactly right. I've said over and over, I've never gotten to vote for a presidential candidate even close to my political position.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Word


Gravatar Gollum Carville
Apprentice to Darth Holden


That's good! I'm soooo stealing that.


Gravatar
Obama is not a leftist and neither is Clinton. They would both be viewed as moderate right in Europe. I'm tired of the wingnut framing about how radical they are.


Speaking of framing, my antipathy towards Obama supporters is largely due to their painting of their candidate as some sort of great liberal hope, rather than the establishment centrist that he actually is.

I prefer him over Clinton, but the real differences between them are marginal.


Gravatarby not responding we keep letting them move the goalposts even further
Prior Aelred


Yes. I really would like to see The American Prospect and Nation and so on full of articles about McCain and his values and his voting records.


GravatarSo correct for Nancy to address HIM as "your ass-holiness?"


I'm talking Bootsy.

I have a lot of respect to the Dalai Lama. A hell of a lot more than I do for the Nazi Pope.


Gravatar"Me and my llama

Wearin' our pajamas..."

I'm gonna go over to Northern and look at teh llamas - such kind faces on those creatures.  With luck, I'll catch their act about teh mail - the mailman drives up to the box and the llead llama marches over and takes the mail in his mouth and gives it to his Person. 


GravatarI also have all the missing socks.


GravatarMe and my llama,
Are going to the dentist today.


GravatarI refer to Bush as his assholiness.


GravatarHad Al Gore (remember him?) taken over as he should have those first steps would have led to a very different America today. But no, You people, Ariana and Chris Hitchens and all the other oh so pure “Left” Progressives just knew better and went off and bashed Al Gore. Nader was your guy. How did that, work out? So please! I back Hillary in this race. I’ll be damned if I let your ilk hand us Obama or McCain!


GravatarThe holiness bidness is of course the wingnut game. There is always something to be distorted, always.


GravatarHe'll be lucky not to wind up in jail for what he did in Chicago.


You're lucky you didn't show up at Eschacon, little Karl.


Gravatara dangerous leftist

Do they even bother to explain why a leftist would be dangerous? FDR instituted policies that would be considered Communist today, yet he was so beloved, they put him on money.


Gravatarobviously Bootsy, and I have respect too. We've gone to Dalai Lama's talks in Boston.


GravatarI just saw that Hillary Clinton has challenged Barack Obama to a Lincoln/Douglas style debate, with no moderator.

Now THAT would be great, and it may finally teach the media their proper place in all of this.

I hope that Obama accepts.


GravatarFDR instituted policies that would be considered Communist today, yet he was so beloved, they put him on money.

And poor Ronnie still doesn't have his face on any money or Mt. Rushmore! It's so unfair!


Gravatarbilly b your alive! What are the odds?


Gravatara Lincoln/Douglas style debate, with no moderator.

Now THAT would be great, and it may finally teach the media their proper place in all of this.


I would so love to see those assholes cut out of the picture. Not sure if it would get televised, though.


GravatarAnd poor Ronnie still doesn't have his face on any money or Mt. Rushmore! It's so unfair!

The first time I visited London I noticed that the toilet paper in the public museums said that it was property of Her Majesty the Queen...


GravatarYou people, Ariana and Chris Hitchens and all the other oh so pure “Left” Progressives just knew better and went off and bashed Al Gore. Nader was your guy.

I voted for Gore.


GravatarDo they even bother to explain why a leftist would be dangerous? FDR instituted policies that would be considered Communist today, yet he was so beloved, they put him on money.
MP | 04.26.08 - 4:20 pm | #


Richard Fucking Nixon instituted policies that would be considered communist today.


GravatarI would so love to see those assholes cut out of the picture. Not sure if it would get televised, though.

*cough*YOUTUBE*cough*


Gravatarbilly b your alive! What are the odds?


What the fuck are you yammering about, you lying little bag of shit?


GravatarRichard Fucking Nixon instituted policies that would be considered communist today.

Sadly true.


GravatarI just saw that Hillary Clinton has challenged Barack Obama to a Lincoln/Douglas style debate, with no moderator.

Now THAT would be great, and it may finally teach the media their proper place in all of this.

I hope that Obama accepts.


I don't. They agree on most things, except who's more "electable". I wouldn't want to watch them argue about that for two hours.


Gravatarbilly b your alive! What are the odds?
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:22 pm | #

Bugs, you're an ignorant, racist asshole! What are the odds of a wingnut concern troll being an ignorant, racist asshole!

There's less difference between Clinton and McCain than between Clinton and Obama.


Gravatar



GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
Perhaps you could snap a pic?????? : )


GravatarFDR was, of course, deeply hated by the rich -- he had enough sense to tax them so that there weren't so many of them!

The Republicans have persuaded do many people that government doesn't work that they don't hold the government responsible for it's actions & vote for the guy they want to have a beer with.


GravatarI would so love to see those assholes cut out of the picture. Not sure if it would get televised, though.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
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I think it would be covered by all of the networks, because not one of them would own it and they would all be licking there lips for either one of the candidates to make a mistake. And, THIS would truly be something different, not seen in generations.

This is the first thing that Hillary has done in a long time that I like!!! Bully for her!!! And let the best candidate win!!!!


GravatarI would so love to see those assholes cut out of the picture. Not sure if it would get televised, though.

*cough*YOUTUBE*cough*



Good point, although you miss some people that way. But anything's better than letting Charlie Gibson and Steffy hurl right wing talking points.


Gravatar I wouldn't want to watch them argue about that for two hours.





GravatarThere's less difference between Clinton and McCain than between Clinton and Obama.
ronjazz |
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Check their voting records and get back to me.


GravatarI hope that Obama accepts

At the risk of sounding SEXIST, I hope not. Hill tends to run off at the mouth where Barack is succinct. It's like hypnosis, a smear is ground in and in and IN.

Probably not accidental, either.

Oh, and I'll bet an unmoderated 90 mins would be more of a bloodbath than even Gibson/Steph.


GravatarA Lincoln-Douglas style debate would have been cool in Feb. or March. There have been so many debates at this point, who cares? Just make your pitch, run your ads and let's get this over with already!


GravatarDon't click if you don't like crawly things.


GravatarI would like to see a debate moderated by Howard Zinn or Chomsky.


GravatarTransmetropolitansexual???


GravatarCheck their voting records and get back to me.


Fuck you, you lying piece of shit.


Gravatarronjazz, Your clueless!


GravatarI would like to see a debate moderated by Howard Zinn or Chomsky.

Man...could you imagine? I'd watch just for the questions.


GravatarOr echidne.


GravatarThe 'Thuglican Party: "Delusions 'R Us"


GravatarCheck their voting records and get back to me.
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:27 pm | #

Do that yourself. You may learn something, although it's very unlikely you have the capacity for learning.


Gravatarronjazz, Your clueless!
Bugs


bug is illiterate.


Gravatarbilly b, Your such a child! Now, lets hear you swear some more.


GravatarZap,

Yeah, it would be mind-blowing to have intelligent questions regardless of the answers.


Gravatarronjazz, Your clueless!
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:28 pm | #

The irony. "Your" an idiot.


Gravatar[off for bug spray]


GravatarGood point, although you miss some people that way.

I suspect once it became viral, even CNN would have to cover it...


GravatarDo that yourself. You may learn something, although it's very unlikely you have the capacity for learning.
ronjazz
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I have and that's the reason, I am not voting for the stranger from Illinois!


Gravatarbugs, thanks for proving your stupidity to all of us.

Again.


GravatarOf course, a debate moderated by John Stewart or Colbert would also be interesting.


Gravatarbug, why don't you try and fool us by becoming a namestealer again?


GravatarI suspect once it became viral, even CNN would have to cover it...

Plus, just the uniqueness of the format might get some folks to watch even though the two of them have had a lot of debates already.


GravatarAt the risk of sounding SEXIST, I hope not. Hill tends to run off at the mouth where Barack is succinct. It's like hypnosis, a smear is ground in and in and IN.

Probably not accidental, either.

Oh, and I'll bet an unmoderated 90 mins would be more of a bloodbath than even Gibson/Steph.
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I don't think so. They will both have to agree to certain rules and Obama isn't stupid. If he were he would not have come this far. I think this has a lot of potential. If Hillary did just run her mouth for the entire 90 minutes, I think that would do more harm than good.

I think Obama would do very well in this scenario.


GravatarA Lincoln-Douglas style debate would have been cool in Feb. or March. There have been so many debates at this point, who cares?

Actually, those weren't really debates. And this would be novel these days, so could create some buzz as they purport to discuss substantive issues in a non-soundbite format.


GravatarI have and that's the reason, I am not voting for the stranger from Illinois!
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:30 pm | #

You haven't, or you wouldn't be buying the rightwing framing. if you did your homework, he wouldn't be a stranger. You just hate black people. We get it.


Gravatarbugs, thanks for proving your stupidity to all of us.

Again.
ronjazz
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Wow! what a comeback.


GravatarHeh...Zap Mama is on the radio.


GravatarOf course, a debate moderated by John Stewart or Colbert would also be interesting.
leibniz♘☮ | 04.26.08 - 4:30 pm | #


A debate moderated by the Rude Pundit.

If "moderated" is the right word.


GravatarFour and a half hours later, I haz super clean bedroom from stem to stern, and boxes of well-loved clothing for the Salvation Army.

The house smells of orange oil and wood floor soap.


GravatarAt the risk of sounding SEXIST, I hope not. Hill tends to run off at the mouth where Barack is succinct. It's like hypnosis, a smear is ground in and in and IN.

You know, if you had omitted the warning it would have been better. Because now I have to start thinking if what you mean is that women always speak so much more than men and if what they say is somehow more stupid and so on. Then I have to link to Language Log on this particular topic.


GravatarI am having a highland brewing company Kashmir IPA. 5 more to go.


GravatarMust one vote for Obama because.....?


GravatarWow! what a comeback.
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:32 pm | #

No comment needed.


GravatarHis correct title is Ass Holiness.
billy b

I guess that would start to explain Bush's Merdes Touch.


GravatarThey shouldn't call it Lincoln-Douglas. Things didn't end well for either one of those guys.


GravatarHill tends to run off at the mouth where Barack is succinct.

Given this would be a long format, it would be more like a stump speech so she'd be able to polish that, even in rebuttal.


GravatarI don't see Hillary as running off at the mouth.


GravatarSeriously, between the Black guy with two years experience
and the only team to win back-to-back presidential campaigns since FDR,
(the team that beat war hero Bush and war hero Dole),

...who do you think the super-racist GOP wants to run against?


GravatarOn the republican side, a debate moderated by Oliver Sacks would work, "The Candidate Who Mistook His Wife for a Moneyed Twat"


GravatarThe house smells of orange oil and wood floor soap.

Please come here.


GravatarI guess that would start to explain Bush's Merdes Touch.


Well, I've been told that Bootsy hisself shit out bug after a consuming a fifth of Jim Beam and a pound of chitterlings.


Gravatarthe Black guy with two years experience

Governing Texas really made the Chimpy admin run like a fucking clock.


GravatarI don't see Hillary as running off at the mouth.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 04.26.08 - 4:34 pm |


Obama is "succinct"?


GravatarNTodd, TKPD, are you beginning to have doubts about Obama?


GravatarThe house smells of orange oil and wood floor soap.

Please come here.




You buy plane ticket, I clean your pad from top to bottom. Must. supply. wine.


GravatarMy house smells like wet dog at the moment. Thunderstorm soaked the pack.


GravatarVicki, I admire your endurance at cleaning tasks. I do it in fits and starts, so it takes much, much longer. I got a new dresser, so when the clothes were moved into the new one they were organized and old stuff weeded out.

Haven't touched the closet yet. That's gonna be an ugly job.


Gravatar...who do you think the super-racist GOP wants to run against?

Your concern, it has been noted.

You'll just need to get over it: Hillary most likely will not win the nomination. So now it's your chance to think of ways to counter what the GOP will attempt against Obama. You can do it! I have faith in you!


GravatarMust one vote for Obama because.....?
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:33 pm | #

One must not vote for Obama, but one, in a civilized society, might refrain from ad hominem, racist attacks based on lies. Vote for whomever you like. Your racist, hateful screeds have actually cost Clinton votes, and turned many against her, figuring if you are the typical supporter, then she's wrong for the office. That's why most here know you're a wingnut concern troll, with no intention of voting Democratic.


GravatarMy house smells like wet dog at the moment.

I can so relate. That's my Puckadoodledoo.

I hate that he sleeps on my bed, but I'm too softhearted to kick him off. He leaves fur and all kinds of dirt in my room. Thank God it has hard wood floors.


Gravatar"Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage.
She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare.
She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health. The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome.
Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice.
In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.[


GravatarYou buy plane ticket, I clean your pad from top to bottom. Must. supply. wine.

Deal. Can you do it before July?

NTodd, TKPD, are you beginning to have doubts about Obama?

I don't know where the fuck you got that idea.


GravatarI cleaned today, too.

I now have a semi-functioning home office.


GravatarI used to clean the whole house every weekend, but I gave up wasting 12 hours on a Saturday for something as inane as a "clean" house. Now, I do it when it bugs me. Which is still probably too often.


GravatarI hate that he sleeps on my bed, but I'm too softhearted to kick him off. He leaves fur and all kinds of dirt in my room.

You're talking about a dog here, correct?


GravatarWow! what a comeback.

It's way more comeback that you're worth, racist slime.


GravatarIn any kind of debate answers would be time limited. The two of them would be great. Remember when they got into the nitty gritty of their health care plans and the moderator whined that they used a whole 16 minutes on the topic. It would really be exciting.


Gravatar28% approval is no way to go through life, son.


Gravatarwhich she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady.[
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:38 pm | #

she was a fine First Lady. She will be a Republican president. No good.


GravatarLast night I watched Smackdown (blush) & their clips of Monday night Raw's appearances by Senators Clinton, Obama & McCain (really -- they did have fake Bill, Hill & "Hussein" in a match in the ring, but the senators really did make funny clips for World Wrestling Entertainment) -- all alluded to some WWE jargon, but I admit my favorite was Obama saying, "Smell what Barak is cookin'!" (This was a line from "The Rock")


GravatarDeal. Can you do it before July?

We'll talk. I am intrigued, I know you have beaucoup pets, so that's not a concern, and I've never been to Vermont.

Plus, I ♥ you.


GravatarIn any kind of debate answers would be time limited. The two of them would be great. Remember when they got into the nitty gritty of their health care plans and the moderator whined that they used a whole 16 minutes on the topic. It would really be exciting.
qlª
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Agreed


GravatarEchidne, there's that brain difference thingy too.

http://www.thedigitalbeat.com/20...male- brain.html


GravatarYou're talking about a dog here, correct?

No, King Schlong, dude.


GravatarPlus, I ♥ you.

Yay!

Your sister, on the hand, most assuredly does not...


Gravatarql, I'd be willing to watch it. I think, if you kept the asshole moderators off of the stage, it would rock.


GravatarI don't know where the fuck you got that idea.
NTodd, TKPD
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It's a feeling I'm getting from some of you people. I think my posts are working. After Hillary stomps Obama In Indiana, this chatroom will explode!


GravatarYou know I have been haunted by a feeling of Deja Vu. Gore won in 2000, but that didn't mater Bush bypassed the peoples will.

Hillary is basically doing a Bush 2000. She is going to win without winning.


GravatarYour sister, on the hand, most assuredly does not...

Well, don't tell Nim I said this, but she is the baby of the family.


GravatarSpeaking of FDR, I regret not getting this portrait of FDR when it was on eBay.


GravatarApropos of nothing, a while back I found a Lincoln impersonator on YouTube re-enacting some of the debates. I'll see if I can dig it up...


GravatarI've never been to Vermont.

If you come, I'll take you out to dinner. No cleaning required.


GravatarYeah, the first few are of this guy...


Gravatarql, I'd be willing to watch it. I think, if you kept the asshole moderators off of the stage, it would rock.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
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Said moderators have this skewed notion that debates are all about them and their inane and sophmoric questions. THIS would put them in their place and show them that if they can't work and play well, they really aren't necessary to this process at all.


GravatarEven if Hillary wins Indiana, it won't be a stomping. It'll be by one or two points. Barack's ahead right now.


GravatarNTodd, Vicki's sister whupped me, but good.


Gravatar
Bugs


If Obama and Clinton's positions were reversed, I have no doubt that you'd be posting anti-Clinton screeds. Come to think of it, you probably already are, just under another name.

Forget concern. You're just a troll.


GravatarIt's a feeling I'm getting from some of you people. I think my posts are working. After Hillary stomps Obama In Indiana, this chatroom will explode!

Every time I think you've hit stupid bottom, you find it within yourself to dig deeper.


GravatarI'll take you out to dinner. No cleaning required.

Ooh, I like! Show me the mountains! I love the mountains.


GravatarWith the likes of the various Ruppert/Annie/Shoehorn/dith/BDG-types we've had here, this kid is, hands down, the dumbest person that has graced us with it's presence.


GravatarVicki, I admire your endurance at cleaning tasks. I do it in fits and starts, so it takes much, much longer. I got a new dresser, so when the clothes were moved into the new one they were organized and old stuff weeded out.

Haven't touched the closet yet. That's gonna be an ugly job.
The Other WA | 04.26.08 - 4:36 pm | #


I joked with my friend that one of the drawbacks of having a 'real' full-time job, instead of being a temp, is that I have no real time to clean.

At least during the downtimes of temping, I could clean. Now, my attic frightens me.


GravatarI think my posts are working. After Hillary stomps Obama In Indiana, this chatroom will explode!
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:41 pm | #

Your posts are working to drive voters to Obama. Nobody on a liberal site is interested in your racist, neanertal views. You are completely deluded, which goes along with your ignorance and lack of language skills. The republicans are finished, no matter wich of the dems is nominated, so your only motive is your racial hatred. You claim that the Republicans are afraid of Clinton, yet they have spent all of their time and money attacking Obama. You're really too stupid.


GravatarOkay, gotta run.

Peace, niks.


GravatarIt'll be by one or two points. Barack's ahead right now.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
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6 points or more.


GravatarNTodd, Vicki's sister whupped me, but good.

She generally beats me, too, but I'll note I'm the only person to have defeated her thus far. 4 times now, including the last game when I stomped her, so she hexed and my dick fell off.


GravatarEchidne, there's that brain difference thingy too.

http://www.thedigitalbeat.com/20...male- brain.html


Notice the sources they link to. It goes round in circles. The most thorough research I've seen in the amount of speech that women and men perform in a given day is that it's pretty equal, but that men tend to speak more in public venues and women in private venues.


GravatarIf you come, I'll take you out to dinner. No cleaning required.

SHUT THE FUCK UP! I NEED A CLEAN HOUSE BEFORE JULY!


GravatarI for one am offended of calling anyone "his holiness." It is only in recent years when non-Catholics in politics and the media have started doing this (John Paul II's first trip to the US was the breakthrough.)

If Pelosi wants to do it for Benedict, fine, but she shouldn't extend it to the Dalai Lama.


GravatarOh crap bugs

We all are smart enough to read the numbers and know the odds. Personally, I will be proud to pull the lever for either the first African American president or the first woman president. The country is moving forward and those that don't realize that are doomed to failure.


GravatarI am finally beating Jen this time. But probably just jinxed it.

NToddler is kicking my ass. QL too. Fuck you both btw!


GravatarTHIS would put them in their place and show them that if they can't work and play well, they really aren't necessary to this process at all.

It would also maybe show the Dems the value of cutting the media out of the picture. The media are not our friends.


GravatarYour posts are working to drive voters to Obama. Nobody on a liberal site is interested in your racist, neanertal views. You are completely deluded, which goes along with your ignorance and lack of language skills. The republicans are finished, no matter wich of the dems is nominated, so your only motive is your racial hatred. You claim that the Republicans are afraid of Clinton, yet they have spent all of their time and money attacking Obama. You're really too stupid.
ronjazz


The racist pig troll wasn't the main reason I went over to Obama but he didn't prevent it.


Gravatar6 points or more.
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:44 pm | #

yes, Obama, probably by double digits. too bad for you, racist.


GravatarOoh, I like! Show me the mountains! I love the mountains.

Dinner at Trapp Family Lodge.


GravatarDouglass was an utter sleazebag whose rhetoric would have been familiar to Rove and Penn. He always referred to the Republicans as "The Black Republican Party" to emphasis their status as not representing working class white americans.


GravatarIf you come, I'll take you out to dinner. No cleaning required.

SHUT THE FUCK UP! I NEED A CLEAN HOUSE BEFORE JULY!
NTodd, TKPD | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 4:45 pm


rent a Dumpster. Throw everything out expect pet related stuff. Voila! sort of clean house.


GravatarIf Pelosi wants to do it for Benedict, fine, but she shouldn't extend it to the Dalai Lama.

Right, because only Catholics can have a Holiness.


GravatarIn lieu of actually "cleaning" my refrigerator, I just slapped these on it as a warning to others.


GravatarDinner at Trapp Family Lodge.

Sigh. Where I was married...


GravatarQL too. Fuck you both btw!
trifecta


Yeah, well NTodd is kicking my ass so fuck him too!


GravatarSHUT THE FUCK UP! I NEED A CLEAN HOUSE BEFORE JULY!

Dr Mrs Gromit and I will take Vicki out to dinner at the Trapp Family Lodge, but only after she has fulfilled her contractual obligations to NTodd.

You could be invited too, if you could wear pants and clean up your fucking language.


GravatarEvery time I think you've hit stupid bottom, you find it within yourself to dig deeper.
NTodd, TKPD
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Nov.5 we will see who is stupid. Obama will never be president! That is my prediction, what is your and do you want to bet?


Gravatar
rent a Dumpster. Throw everything out expect pet related stuff. Voila! sort of clean house.


Actually, I'm fairly close to that. Was going to call 1-800-JUNK, actually, then Merry Maids. After I sort a little.


Gravatarql, I'd be willing to watch it. I think, if you kept the asshole moderators off of the stage, it would rock.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
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Precisely!!! It has the potential to turn this topsy turvy, up is down world back to its rightful axis. (with respect to the media anyway) It's passed time that the media was put in its place. The NEWS needs the news makers and they forgot that a long time ago!!!


GravatarI 409'ed my fridge last week. The mold was complaining about the smell.


GravatarI think my posts are working.







No, they're not, retard!


GravatarOh crap bugs

We all are smart enough to read the numbers and know the odds. Personally, I will be proud to pull the lever for either the first African American president or the first woman president. The country is moving forward and those that don't realize that are doomed to failure.
qlª | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 4:45 pm


That's what I hold onto, the feeling i had in the beginning of February: That in November I would be able to cast my vote for the person would in all likelyhood be either the first woman or first black president, and it thrilled me to be able to do so.


GravatarI'm looking for a pizza place to bring Zapette tonight. Our favorite place has been on the "do not patronize" list by HERE UNITE for the past two years (same place Norm Coleman's Dad got picked up for solicitation), so that's out of the question.

Tough choices out there. Anyone heard of a place called "Pizza Hut"?


GravatarNov.5 we will see who is stupid. Obama will never be president! That is my prediction, what is your and do you want to bet?

My prediction is Obama will be president because I will work hard to make it so. If he wins, you have to pay for me to go to the CodePink DC house for a week. If he loses, I'll suck your cock.


GravatarSigh. Where I was married...
NTodd, TKPD


Is Gretle a GILF?


GravatarActually, I'm fairly close to that. Was going to call 1-800-JUNK, actually, then Merry Maids. After I sort a little.
NTodd, TKPD | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 4:49 pm | #


Read "nickeled and dimed" before calling merry maids.


GravatarTrolls are icky and stinky and they slime a trail of slime.

Ready everyone? Start ignoring all trolls in 3, 2, 1, NOW!!!!!


GravatarHecate -- b'day book arrived -- many thanks -- looks very interesting -- may take me a while to get to it

Does Richard Gere have to call the Dalai Lama "Your Holiness" but not B16? What are the rules supposed to be if you don't treat everyone with equal respect?


GravatarNov.5 we will see who is stupid. Obama will never be president! That is my prediction, what is your and do you want to bet?
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:48 pm | #

One should never bet with wingnuts. They have no honor and never pay. But, it's for sure that McCain will never be president, and Clinton has screwed her own chances with her centrist bullshit and war-mongering. Get used to saying President Barack Obama.


GravatarWelp, I have to do Agility fixin'.
bbl
.


GravatarNow the racist pig troll wants to bet.

(I'm sure he wants McCain to be president.)

I'm sure he'll pay off like auggie paid off after November 2006.


Gravatarrent a Dumpster. Throw everything out expect pet related stuff. Voila! sort of clean house.

Actually, I'm fairly close to that. Was going to call 1-800-JUNK, actually, then Merry Maids. After I sort a little.
NTodd, TKPD | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 4:49 pm |


Define 'a little'.


GravatarIf he loses, I'll suck your cock.
NTodd, TKPD |
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No thanks, I'm not a homo!


GravatarIn lieu of actually "cleaning" my refrigerator, I just slapped these on it as a warning to others.

We had other departments' members taking water from out cooler, so I put note on it saying"This water has been treated in an orgone box".


Gravatarn November I would be able to cast my vote for the person would in all likelyhood be either the first woman or first black president, and it thrilled me to be able to do so.

Same here. It will be a groundbreaking event no matter what. Beyond that symbolism, they both will be fine executives.


GravatarWashington found a way to pick no.21 in the first round. Perpetual mediocrity.


GravatarNo thanks, I'm not a homo!

Neither am I.


GravatarRead "nickeled and dimed" before calling merry maids.

Did. But the local folks here are pretty cool.


GravatarF'ing 18-1 New England picked in the top ten.


GravatarOK, bugs, if Obama wins, you can underwrite my next CD. If not, you can suck my cock.


GravatarNo thanks, I'm not a homo!




Let's see - he's racist, sexist, anti-semitic and now we find out he's homophobic.

Such an admirable person.


GravatarNeither am I.
NTodd, TKPD
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I'm not so sure about that!


GravatarPerhaps you could snap a pic?????? : )

Sorry - I was too late - mailman'd already been and gone.  Next time I'll take a picture of the guys tho - and their pal, teh Burro.



GravatarI'm not so sure about that!

ZING!

Take that, HomoNTodd!


GravatarI'm not so sure about that!
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:53 pm | #

nor about your own proclivities, I'm sure. let's talk!


GravatarRefrigerator -- I only have to clean the little one in the refectory once a week when I am assigned morning refectory -- the big one in the kitchen is the cook's responsibility -- it has a magnet on the door of Bushy @ J2P2's funeral (the dead pope in red vestments) with the balloon over Chimpy's head, "What happened to Santa?"


GravatarMethinks the troll doth protest too much!

Or he's actually Larry Craig.


GravatarRead "nickeled and dimed" before calling merry maids.

NTodd sounds like he has a severe single male mess problem. And his new GF seems to be a keeper. We don;t want her scared off, or NTodd will go all rude on us.

Truly, these are desperate times.

I say call the cleaning service and provide baked goods and supplementary cash tips if required.


GravatarNeither am I.
NTodd, TKPD
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I'm not so sure about that!
Bugs


The important things is that I am sure.


GravatarNTodd, TKPD, If your correct, I will send a basket of fruit to, wherever you live.


Gravatarwhen mccain
left the station
he had two journalists kissing his behind
the first one called him straightalk
the second one got his shoes shined.


GravatarI'm not so sure about that!
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:53 pm | #

Wow! What a comeback!


GravatarWow! What a comeback!
ronjazz



Cuz being gay is SUCH a TERRIBLE thing, ya know.


GravatarNeither am I.
NTodd, TKPD
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I'm not so sure about that!
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:53 pm | #



Burn!

When did Atrios change his URL? I miss everything.


GravatarWow! What a comeback!
ronjazz
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You're not too original, are you Bunkie!


GravatarZap - Boboli are ur friend when it comes to pizza. 


GravatarNTodd, TKPD, If your correct, I will send a basket of fruit to, wherever you live.
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:55 pm | #

which, will never arrive, unless, you're post office, translates asshole


GravatarNTodd, TKPD, If your correct, I will send a basket of fruit to, wherever you live.




How we send you a book on spelling, grammar and sentence construction?


GravatarNTodd sounds like he has a severe single male mess problem.

Indeed, one that built up over 2 1/4 years. Throw in 5 animals and way too much red wine and you've got a serious problem that I still think is best solved by burning down the house. After I talk to my insurance company about updating the rebuild costs...


Gravatarwhich, will never arrive, unless, you're post office, translates asshole
ronjazz
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Still lame. How sad!


GravatarWashington did score score a scoop last year by snagging safety LaRon Landry.


GravatarNTodd, TKPD, If your correct, I will send a basket of fruit to, wherever you live.

Send it now. I could use the Vitamin C.

215 Bog Rd
Cambridge, VT
05444

TIA!


Gravatarwell, bugsie, you have changed my vote. I was of the opinion that Elias was the stupidest visitor here, but you have aced that honor!


GravatarComment by Bugs blocked.



Enough is enough.


GravatarWhat are the rules supposed to be if you don't treat everyone with equal respect?

What would be wonderful would be if we could all see the divine w/in each other all the time. It's why I love the expression: Namaste, which I translate to mean: that which is divine w/in me recognizes that which is divine w/in you. Or, "Thou art Goddess/God."


GravatarWell, I should go shower since I rode again today, then rustle up some gaiii grub.


GravatarStill lame. How sad!
Bugs | 04.26.08 - 4:57 pm | #

You are, indeed.

But we are well aware of that.

"Your" the only one who doesn't see it.


GravatarOOps -

mean to say post:

How ABOUT we send the racist troll a book on spelling, grammar and sentence construction?


GravatarWhat is a Bog Rd ? You live on a boat?


GravatarTery C, his pride in his ignorance (a trait of wingnuts everywhere) will prevent him from even opening such a book.


GravatarI would totally be gay except for the anal sex.

Otherwise, It's Yentl city.


GravatarIndeed, one that built up over 2 1/4 years.

Sounds like I may have to join Vicki in this adventure. Maybe we can get Molly too. And Hecate. It could be a partay!


GravatarI know a guy with the last name Bible.


GravatarNTodd, cleaning is easy.

You just fill ONE garbage bag a day. At least.

That's all you obligate yourself to do, just one bag. If you feel up to it, do another bag.

But ALWAYS fill one bag a day.

This prevents the whole "OMG! How will I ever get all this crap cleaned up?" syndrome.

When it's just one bag a day, it's a whole lot easier.

Trust me, this works.


GravatarWhat would be wonderful would be if we could all see the divine w/in each other all the time.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Well, Bush DOES think he's god.


GravatarAt least, i'm not a ronjazz!


GravatarNTodd sounds like he has a severe single male mess problem. And his new GF seems to be a keeper. We don;t want her scared off, or NTodd will go all rude on us.

Truly, these are desperate times.

I say call the cleaning service and provide baked goods and supplementary cash tips if required.
Gromit | 04.26.08 - 4:55 pm |


But she's already seen what it looks like, and didn't run off screaming into the night. So she already knows he's a terrible slob and loves him anyway. So he need not worry.

Though, he could put some sort of slip cover over that green thing in his office.


GravatarScoopernicus around? Anyone else going to Drinking Sadly in Cambridge tomorrow?

The fact is, I'm going to dress like Garry Ruppert.


GravatarLater, Moonbats. I have to head over to G/Son's for babysitting. Poetry up at the homepage for you effete, liberal, poetry-lovers.


GravatarThe Dalai Lama is always referred to as His Holiness (or Your Holiness when speaking directly to him). I believe all religious leaders are referred to in this way. Nothing new.


GravatarHowever, actually cleaning NTodd, well, that's a whole different thing!


GravatarTerry C, his pride in his ignorance (a trait of wingnuts everywhere) will prevent him from even opening such a book.
ronjazz


And his illiteracy will prevent him from being able to read it.


GravatarNamaste, which I translate to mean: that which is divine w/in me recognizes that which is divine w/in you. Or, "Thou art Goddess/God

Very Quakerish. It would be interesting to find out if George Fox had read up on Wiccan.


GravatarIndeed, one that built up over 2 1/4 years.

Sounds like I may have to join Vicki in this adventure. Maybe we can get Molly too. And Hecate. It could be a partay!
qlª | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:01 pm | #


I'm in. I've never been to Vermont and it's easier to clean someone else's place than my own.

Maybe we can have travelling, cleaning mini-Eschacons?


GravatarWhat is a Bog Rd ? You live on a boat?

No, dipshit. I live near a bog. You're really not the sharpest bowling ball in the knife drawer, are you?


GravatarHowever, actually cleaning NTodd, well, that's a whole different thing!
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:03 pm | #


Put him in the yard. Turn on the hose.


GravatarVermont is ok, if you like the third best cheese in the country.


GravatarSounds like I may have to join Vicki in this adventure. Maybe we can get Molly too. And Hecate. It could be a partay!

I'll bring beverages and make the dump/recycling runs.


GravatarI know a guy with the last name Bible.

Did he speak in psycho-bible?


Gravatar
But she's already seen what it looks like, and didn't run off screaming into the night.


Actually, no. She's only seen The Fortess. She worries that she might end up sleeping in a tent because I won't let her inside the house...


GravatarIs there a mastodon in your bog?


GravatarActually, no. She's only seen The Fortess. She worries that she might end up sleeping in a tent because I won't let her inside the house...

That's what I was afraid of. This is A Very Serious Matter, people.


GravatarHow old in your estimation is this bog?


GravatarNo, dipshit. I live near a bog. You're really not the sharpest bowling ball in the knife drawer, are you?
------------------------------
So do creepy creatures and weirdos. In your case, that explains a lot!


GravatarYou haven't, or you wouldn't be buying the rightwing framing. if you did your homework, he wouldn't be a stranger. You just hate black people. We get it.
ronjazz |


He hates black folks, women, Jews and now we know he thinks being gay is bad.

What a loser.


GravatarBut she's already seen what it looks like, and didn't run off screaming into the night.

Actually, no. She's only seen The Fortess. She worries that she might end up sleeping in a tent because I won't let her inside the house...
NTodd, TKPD | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:06 pm |


You didn't show her the house?!

But she's seen pics of your office, correct, so she has some ideas of what it's like in there?


GravatarHow big is your bog?


GravatarIs there a mastodon in your bog?

No. But we do have a beaver, and an itinerant heron.


GravatarYou didn't show her the house?!

But she's seen pics of your office, correct, so she has some ideas of what it's like in there?


No. And yes.


GravatarActually, no. She's only seen The Fortess. She worries that she might end up sleeping in a tent because I won't let her inside the house...

That's what I was afraid of. This is A Very Serious Matter, people.
Gromit | 04.26.08 - 5:07 pm | #


Yep, intervention time.


GravatarThis is A Very Serious Matter, people.
Gromit

First laugh out loud today.

Bravo.


Gravatarbud the bog troll?


GravatarWarning: Corniness dead ahead:

Whenever I drive over the Verrazano Bridge and spot the Statue of Liberty in the harbor, I get a sense of what the immigrants seeing it for the first time must have felt and it makes me proud. I still believe in the idea of America.


GravatarNo. And yes.
NTodd


okay, this is getting worser and worser.


GravatarBravo.

Thanks, ql. And now I must go to see if the lawn mower will start after a long winter.


GravatarYou didn't show her the house?!

But she's seen pics of your office, correct, so she has some ideas of what it's like in there?

No. And yes.
NTodd, TKPD | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:08 pm |


Oh boy.

So, is she a terrible neat freak? There may be some um, adjustments for her. Pity Mom weren't alive, she'd be up for some advice. She said it took awhile for her to learn to adjust and prioritize in dealing with Dad's lack of housekeeping skills.


GravatarGod, how I bore myself.


GravatarWhenever I drive over the Verrazano Bridge and spot the Statue of Liberty in the harbor, I get a sense of what the immigrants seeing it for the first time must have felt and it makes me proud. I still believe in the idea of America.
Monica_A: Dammit!


It's a shame the mouthbreathers in this country don't.


GravatarNtood, lives in a shack down near the bog. Ha-ha.


GravatarI still believe in the idea of America.
Monica_A: Dammit! | 04.26.08 - 5:09 pm | #

commie.


GravatarI still believe in the idea of America.
Monica


I think that's why we're all here. Despite our differences we all believe in the idea of America and what she has to offer.


GravatarNo, dipshit. I live near a bog.

First comment on that post was from Darryl. You're never really gone on the internet.


GravatarSo, is she a terrible neat freak?

Not in the sense of a certain previous cohabitant, but she likes neat. She also is realistic about our different thresholds, unlike a certain previous cohabitant. But I'm also trying really hard to be better about my "hot spots" as I am making my way through the morass.


GravatarI still believe in the idea of America.

Monica

I suppose. But the idea of Yahk is awfully appealing too.


GravatarI get so emotional looking at it. Writing about it gives me chills. Here, in this land we call the United States, we have the beacon of freedom and justice. To know that I can get in my car and look at anytime I want is awe-inspiring.


GravatarFirst comment on that post was from Darryl. You're never really gone on the internet.

Sigh. Yeah, he was often the first commenter. I miss him a lot, actually.


GravatarYes, qlª. I believe that as well.


GravatarWhat is it with bog people? Are they all crazy!


GravatarI still believe in the idea of America.

Monica

I suppose. But the idea of Yahk is awfully appealing too.

GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.26.08 - 5:13 pm |


It seems terribly bright there today. I fear it's all going to melt under all that sunshine.


GravatarI wouldn't call it a shack...


GravatarI get so emotional looking at it. Writing about it gives me chills. Here, in this land we call the United States, we have the beacon of freedom and justice. To know that I can get in my car and look at anytime I want is awe-inspiring.

The struggle is to get the reality to at least move toward the ideal, and we've badly lost our way over the last 28 years.


GravatarI think it's gonna be Trattoria da Vinci tonight.


GravatarBye.


Gravatarkaynowimreallygonnashower


GravatarI think it's gonna be Trattoria da Vinci tonight.
Zap Rowsdower


Tonight we're going with a lovely 2007 Olde English, which matches beautifully with the bag of Fritos Scoops. It's hockey night!


GravatarSo, is she a terrible neat freak?

Not in the sense of a certain previous cohabitant, but she likes neat. She also is realistic about our different thresholds, unlike a certain previous cohabitant. But I'm also trying really hard to be better about my "hot spots" as I am making my way through the morass.
NTodd, TKPD | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:12 pm |


That's good. Mom got married at 19 (Dad was 23) and she had certain ideas of cleaniness carried down from her German neatfreak antecedents. She and dad had to make adjustments.

My excuses is that I have a small (500 sq ft) and crappily designed apt, so it's always going to be untidy (and most of the big stuff is in the attic).

Don't know what excuse I'll have to come up with if I ever get to move a larger place.


GravatarScoopernicus around? Anyone else going to Drinking Sadly in Cambridge tomorrow?

I'll probably sadly drink at Gritty's in about an hour, then go back to cleaning the hovel.


GravatarI should eat this tonight just to make Thers jealous:

Penne al Whisky - Penne pasta mixed with bacon, mushrooms, sun-dried tomatoes and walnuts in a whisky cream sauce.


GravatarNot like the brazen giant of Greek fame
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame,
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

by Emma Lazarus, New York City, 1883


I need a drink!


GravatarBonasera: I believe in America. America has made my fortune. And I raised my daughter in the American fashion. I gave her freedom, but I taught her never to dishonor her family. She found a boyfriend; not an Italian. She went to the movies with him; she stayed out late. I didn't protest. Two months ago, he took her for a drive, with another boyfriend. They made her drink whiskey. And then they tried to take advantage of her. She resisted. She kept her honor. So they beat her, like an animal. When I went to the hospital, her nose was a'broken. Her jaw was a'shattered, held together by wire. She couldn't even weep because of the pain. But I wept. Why did I weep? She was the light of my life beautiful girl. Now she will never be beautiful again. I went to the police, like a good American. These two boys were brought to trial. The judge sentenced them to three years in prison - suspended sentence. Suspended sentence! They went free that very day! I stood in the courtroom like a fool. And those two bastards, they smiled at me. Then I said to my wife, for justice, we must go to Don Corleone.


GravatarGWPDA
I suppose. But the idea of Yahk is awfully appealing too.

Hey, where's the snow?!


GravatarFirst comment on that post was from Darryl. You're never really gone on the internet.

Sigh. Yeah, he was often the first commenter. I miss him a lot, actually.
NTodd, TKPD | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:14 pm


Gone two months already. Damn.


GravatarTonight we're going with a lovely 2007 Olde English, which matches beautifully with the bag of Fritos Scoops. It's hockey night!

Myself, I prefer a vintage Blue Bull...


GravatarThen I said to my wife, for justice, we must go to Don Corleone.

Bonaserra. Bonaserra.


Gravatar

Taste: Goddamit I am tired of these misleading noses. This beer tastes like sour funk, and metal, with some rotten apple and, yes, MAD AMOUNTS OF FUSEL ALCOHOL. This must be what it tastes like to mix gasoline with corn syrup. Aftertaste is horrible, tasting like straight up booze and some Pruno. Ask your uncle with all those tatoos and scars what Pruno is.


GravatarAsk your uncle with all those tatoos and scars what Pruno is.

!!


GravatarSnow's gone for BC.  Springtime now.  Lovely place.


GravatarI swear, I've clicked through to Yahk at least 3 dozen times and have only seen one vehicle, one time. I would not be happy at Yahk, sam i am. Not happy at all.


GravatarThe struggle is to get the reality to at least move toward the ideal, and we've badly lost our way over the last 28 years.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Amen to the last part of your statement, Apprentice.

I just read a comment left on a post I did this morning on Gitmo. The commenter is one of the civilian attorneys trying to work with the detainees.

I'm not embarrassed to admit that her comment made me cry.


GravatarMany if not most americans would replace the statue of liberty with a blimp of Lou Dobbs screaming "Fuck Off!"


GravatarDiane,

That was a very powerful comment. The end of it really struck me:

And you know what most american's will remember? "but the military said we kept them in better conditions than any soldiers were ever kept in by any country."
That of course is bullshit and we would never in a million years sit back and watch tv and yawn if our citizens were held in similar conditions....


GravatarI swear, I've clicked through to Yahk at least 3 dozen times and have only seen one vehicle, one time. I would not be happy at Yahk, sam i am. Not happy at all.
qlª | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:29 pm |


I like that there don't seem to be a lot of people.


GravatarMany if not most americans would replace the statue of liberty with a blimp of Lou Dobbs screaming "Fuck Off!"
leibniz?


I don't know about a majority, but far too many.

Diane, thanks for that, I guess.

Is Ruth okay?


GravatarI thought the proper greeting an American politician gives a foreigner is to throw up on them.


GravatarIs Ruth okay?
qlª


I guess, she's back to posting at least.


Gravatarmeanwhile, famed Nobelist, Oscarist and Climate-Change-Alarmist/Hoaxster/Huckster, Albert Antoinette Gore, Jr., issued a statement to the world's grain-starved poor:

"The upside, fellow Earthians, is that your triglycerides could normalize...."


Gravataryou'd think that the dems would at least mention the pentagon-msm-propaganda story.


GravatarWell, this is Michele Bachmann's opponent in the MN-6th in November.

He ain't much, but he's worlds better than her.


Gravataryou'd think that the dems would at least mention the pentagon-msm-propaganda story.
gary in fl

Pay no attention to the psy-ops in your own backyard.


GravatarIf i were john mccain, i would be very afraid of running against obama. look what happend to all of his prior opponents. They imploded. Mccain is more likely to just drop dead before the election than he is to win.

Look at the guy:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp- cont...in_hageeweb.jpg

Can you imagine how he's going to look in 3-4 more years? No wonder Hillary wants mccain to win. He'll be easy pickings in 2012.

No wonder the terrorists are afraid of him. He's their worst nightmare. A senile old sack of cancerous bones banging on death's door..


GravatarMany if not most americans would replace the statue of liberty with a blimp of Lou Dobbs screaming "Fuck Off!"
leibniz♘☮


Call me a cockeyed optimist but I don't think many if most Americans even know who Loud Obbs is.


GravatarNo wonder Hillary wants mccain to win.



And you KNOW that HOW?


GravatarAnd you KNOW that HOW?

Body language, you idiot.


GravatarAnd you KNOW that HOW?
Terry


Ignore it. It just wants to start problems.


GravatarBody language, you idiot.
crud


Great way to win friends and influence people, Mr. Charmer


Gravatarcrud:

your name fits. keep it.


GravatarBody language, you idiot.

Oh yeah, that's pretty fucking reliable, particularly when you're a goddamned expert.


GravatarMust be the dour hour.

Forgive the intrusion...


GravatarMust be the dour hour.

Actually, we're pretty fucking happy unless stupid people come crap in the punchbowl.


GravatarI am pleased to announce that my lawnmower started on the first pull, after 6 months in the garage.

I love Hondas.


Gravatarhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/ 20080...C_iTRJ0x9MuQE4F
TALLAHASSEE, Florida (Reuters) - Senate lawmakers in Florida have voted to ban the fake bull testicles that dangle from the trailer hitches of many trucks and cars throughout the state.

Republican Sen. Cary Baker, a gun shop owner from Eustis, Florida, called the adornments offensive and proposed the ban. Motorists would be fined $60 for displaying the novelty items, which are known by brand names like "Truck Nutz" and resemble the south end of a bull moving north.

The Florida Senate voted last week to add the measure to a broader transportation bill, but it is not included in the House version.

In a spirited debate laced with double entendre, Senate lawmakers questioned whether the state should curtail freedom of expression in vehicle accessories.

Critics of the ban included the Senate Rules Chairman, Sen. Jim King, a Jacksonville Republican whose truck sported a pair until his wife protested.

The bill's sponsor doubted it would succeed.

"It's probably not going to make it through the process," Baker said on Thursday. "It won't be much of story in a few days."


GravatarI am pleased to announce that my lawnmower started on the first pull, after 6 months in the garage.

Lawn...mower?


GravatarCongrats, Gromit!

And kudos to you for doing that at 5:48 PM EDT rather than 5:48 AM, as the moron next door did.


Gravatarcrud:

your name fits. keep it.
Lubyanka


Trool on trool action.

Two republic ass-kissing chickenshits.


GravatarWe're making a run to the bookstore after dinner. Any recommendations?


Gravatargiven the slo-mo Dimocrat Primary Train Wreck and Cannibalism Banquet, lotsa short tempers in "progressive" blogland..

..but for the rest of us: comedy platinum


GravatarI am pleased to announce that my lawnmower started on the first pull, after 6 months in the garage.

I'd love to get outside and give the ol' push mower a try, but it's been SNOWING!


GravatarRepublican Sen. Cary Baker, a gun shop owner from Eustis, Florida, called the adornments offensive

Clearly a moral leader in the community.


GravatarActually, we're pretty fucking happy unless stupid people come crap in the punchbowl.

I can see that by your excellent posture.


Gravatarcrud,
Wanna fuck?


GravatarWe have a construction project next door and were awakened Friday morning at four freaking thirty by hammering.


Gravatarntodd, 90 year-olds protest war at Pelican Pointe:

http://www.heraldtribune.com/art.../804260663/ 1661


Gravatarhey Diane: Read your post. Well done. And I read the post from the lawyer.
Heartbreaking.


GravatarI am watching 80's videos on the youtubes now and feeling old. Anybody remember this one?


GravatarZap- How was Zapette's trip to Scotland? Business or pleasure?


GravatarI used to have a Honda backup generator (8KW?). It always started no matter how much I neglected it.


GravatarWe have a construction project next door and were awakened Friday morning at four freaking thirty by hammering.
Gromit | 04.26.08 - 5:51 pm | #

Most areas have laws about how early construction can start.


GravatarAt Fark: firefighters unable to save house because copper fittings worth $8 stolen from all nearby hydrants. Depression? What depression?
 


GravatarThanks, Spo ck o .

Candace is currently at The Hague on a fellowship, learning, teaching, and hopefully naming names.



GravatarAnybody remember this one?

Hoo-boy, I do now...


GravatarI am watching 80's videos on the youtubes now and feeling old. Anybody remember this one?
trifecta | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:51 pm | #

I'll try to find a version with the truly unbelievable Maria McKee.


GravatarWe're making a run to the bookstore after dinner. Any recommendations?
Gromit | 04.26.08 - 5:50 pm


Ann Coulter?


GravatarHow was Zapette's trip to Scotland? Business or pleasure?

She's not leaving 'til the beginning of June.

But it's pleasure, as her BFF lives in Edinburgh (and she also lived there for a spell).


GravatarMaria McKee is my favorite singer ever.

She is quite the goddess.


GravatarWith Hillary bitch-slapping him from Altoona to Kokomo, GodDamnAmerica Obama's strange lack of response shows he's the kind of guy who, uh, is used-to and likes that kind of punishment..

you go, "girl"...


Gravatar"how could Pelosi pretend that godless chink was holy?"-Brent Bozell's employees


GravatarMost areas have laws about how early construction can start.

We do too, 7:00. I decided to forgive them once, as I know they're on a tight schedule and there is a very nice family moving in.

The dad was a student of mine at a previous institution. Large lecture class, so it may not be surprising that I don't remember him, but I do feel old.


GravatarWe're making a run to the bookstore after dinner. Any recommendations?
Gromit


Smilla's Sense of Snow by Peter Hoeg. I'm reading it for the second time. Some very good background on the relationship between the Greenlanders (Inuits) and the Danish. It's not quite as fascinating the second time round, but these days when I rarely read any novels, the fact that I'm willing to pick it up says a lot.

Jane Austen: Pride & Prejudice and Emma, by some lout named Andrew Haggerty. PS, I think I heard somewhere that the lout likes bacon. Might be mistaken.


GravatarAlso Diane the line single occupancy cells vs. solitary confinement?

This is a linguistic war that the right wing is waging on the rest of us and it is often accepted by the media with no question. Just because the Bush admin calls it "Enhanced Interrrogation" doesn't mean the press need to use the same words. Yes we see how Diane Peroxide can technically say, "We do not torture because in her defination waterboarding is not torture. Helen Thomas is great, but the question to follow is. "Do we waterboard? yes or no. Okay so if she says yes then you say:

"Why did you say that we don't torture when you just said we waterboard?"

"We don't consider that torture."

If she says No you can say, "Well according this this document here in my hand..."


GravatarNabokov: "Speak, Memory"


GravatarAnn Coulter?

Good idea. When I've found books I want to read, I can do some creative reshelving,


GravatarWhackawhackawhacka! Unh! Unh! Unh! Geeeeeeeeeah! Agah, agah, agah, agah, whooooooo.




Shit no kleenex


GravatarHmmm...Zapette's upstairs making jewelry and blasting the soundtrack to "Hedwig".


GravatarWe're making a run to the bookstore after dinner. Any recommendations?
Gromit | 04.26.08 - 5:50 pm

Ann Coulter?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins



Books, not toilet paper.


GravatarJane Austen: Pride & Prejudice and Emma, by some lout named Andrew Haggerty. PS, I think I heard somewhere that the lout likes bacon. Might be mistaken.
qlª | Homepage


Sheesh, I was going to recommend anything by Terry Pratchett, but you pulled out the big gun.

(I just added it to my list for the next trip to Vroman's.)


Gravatarbilly b:

such an idiot even his namestealing spoofs are lame


GravatarJane Austen: Pride & Prejudice and Emma, by some lout named Andrew Haggerty. PS, I think I heard somewhere that the lout likes bacon. Might be mistaken.
qlª | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:56 pm


Also, whiskey.


GravatarSenate lawmakers in Florida have voted to ban the fake bull testicles that dangle from the trailer hitches of many trucks and cars throughout the state.

isn't 'Nut Speech' protected?


GravatarJane Austen: Pride & Prejudice and Emma, by some lout named Andrew Haggerty. PS, I think I heard somewhere that the lout likes bacon. Might be mistaken.
qlª | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 5:56 pm

Also, whiskey.


I'm reminded, again of a choice for dinner tonight:

Penne al Whisky - Penne pasta mixed with bacon, mushrooms, sun-dried tomatoes and walnuts in a whisky cream sauce.


GravatarI can rub my head and pat my stomach at the same time. Look at me, look at me!


GravatarI think I heard somewhere that the lout likes bacon.

[Taps nose knowingly]


GravatarSupremes need to settle this: aren't dangling bull-balls a form of personal expression?


GravatarThe Austen book is written for, I imagine, seniors in high school or freshmen. Since I have yet to read Jane Austen (hangs head in shame) it makes a good introduction. I've actually learned quite a bit from it. Goes without saying the writing is superb.


GravatarThe accusation is useless because in the minds of Brent Bozell's readers, what Plosi is really guilty of is hyping every religion except White Protestant Christianity, whereas for Bush to merely use the same phrase is totally a different story because of his respect for and establishing an identity as a WPC.


GravatarActually, we're pretty fucking happy

:D


GravatarIs the book on amazon?

The drunken mick's book I mean.


GravatarWashington traded out of the first round with the 4-12 Atlanta Falcons. This does not bode well.


Gravatarbilly b:

such an idiot even his namestealing spoofs are lame
Lubyanka


Stupduppa -

You'd like to think as such. I'm not namestealing - I'm whupping your ass straight up.

You pussy.


GravatarIt is too different when Pelosi says it. So there.

Way late to the party on this one, but shouldn't Tim Graham do a little Lexis-Nexis before spouting off his dumb blow hole?

On that note, I do believe His Holiness has often said, "Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."


GravatarAnn Coulter?

Good idea. When I've found books I want to read, I can do some creative reshelving,
Gromit | 04.26.08 - 5:57 pm |


Fiction? Non-Fiction?

I just picked up Under A Green Sky by Peter Ward

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Gree...928/ ref=ed_oe_p

and With Speed and Violence:

http://www.amazon.com/Speed- Viol...pd_bxgy_b_img_b


GravatarIs the book on amazon?

The drunken mick's book I mean.


Yup, just looked it up.

http://www.amazon.com/Jane-Auste...09246944&sr=8- 1


GravatarThis is a really amusing article. Towards the end of the article a chaplain representing the army's chaplains' corps says that
"When you're in Afghanistan and an IED blows up a Humvee, they aren't asking about a wounded soldier's faith," and near the top of the article an atheist who is being harassed and threatened for being an atheist talks about how the first thing he was asked after a vehicle ambush was whether he believes in God.


GravatarSupremes need to settle this: aren't dangling bull-balls a form of personal expression?


The nearest thing Cumgummit has for a set of cojones are the plastic ones it hangs from the rear bumper of its wood-paneled PT Cruiser.


GravatarWell, time to sample the beef stew I have been simmering for the past couple of hours (while it is 96F outside).

While I dine, please consider why our Secretary of State has been named the Queen of Failure by The Brunei Times.


GravatarFiction? Non-Fiction?

Interested in both. But I do most reading for pleasure before sleep and have learned that books that cause righteous outrage and disgust lead to insomnia.


GravatarGalaxy Fuck Holy crap.


GravatarDr. Laura is on cspan2. ....if you need an emetic.


GravatarCorrente is a puke funnel.


GravatarZAP,
PSYCHO SUSIES has pizza.


GravatarDinner calls.


GravatarDiane's link above is well worth reading. Outrage from people who are supposed to be our allies.


GravatarThanks for the book recommendations, people. Nice to have some new authors to look up. I tend to find someone I like and then gorge.


GravatarDr. Emetic
http://www.pencilnecks.com/Laura.htm
You're warned.
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GravatarPSYCHO SUSIES has pizza.

We've been meaning to get there. It would give me an excuse to take some pics of the Lowry Ave. bridge before they tear it down.

But we're gonna stay a little closer to home here in St. Paul. I promise, I'll give my home town some lovin' one of these days.


Gravatar


Diane C. Barking-Mad

You're going to regret that frivolity when an inaccurate version of the 1968 Czech military storms your hometown.


GravatarGalaxy Fuck Holy crap.

And a big Intergalactic Fuck You! (500 years ago, anyway) to any alien civilizations living there, too.

And am I the only one thinks Kevin's a yuuz for hating on Jack mcDevitt...who wrote Deepsix, about a collision between a gas giant and an Earthlike world...?


GravatarWith Janet bitch-slapping him from Columbus to Milford, Brian Hardig's strange lack of response shows he's the kind of guy who, uh, is used-to and likes that kind of punishment..

you go, "girl"...


GravatarGalaxy Fuck Holy crap.
qlª


Cool.

Hubble got a picture of Yankcrankit and bug going at it in a galactic clusterfuck.


GravatarMan alive:

On PBS’s Bill Moyers Journal last night, Moyers interviewed Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, whose controversial remarks created a political storm last month.

Reacting to advance excerpts of the interview, Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly attacked Moyers on his show last night, calling him a “far left PBS guy” who is “extreme” and “pathetic.” At the end of his Talking Points Memo segment, O’Reilly suggested that Moyers and Wright should “take a long vacation, perhaps in Iran.”


I tend not to take O'Reilly very seriously because of things like this...


GravatarShrub gets a pass cuz he wasn't wearing a head scarf when he said it.


GravatarMan alive:

O'Really?'s just plain not right in the head. Seriously.


GravatarO'Reilly's a bully. Stopped paying attention to 'em in middle school; been much better since.

Gromit: Norman Davies' 'No Simple Victory' is a different take on World War II. He views the conflict as, largely, that between evils, rather than an unmitigated triumph of the good, and reorients his readers to the vastness of the horrors of the Eastern front. He recalls both glory and horror, spares nobody. A very unsettling read.

Not everybody likes Davies, one of whose principal interests and sympathies is with the Poles. There are those who think he's too forgiving of Polish complicity in the Holocaust.


GravatarFiction? Non-Fiction?

Interested in both. But I do most reading for pleasure before sleep and have learned that books that cause righteous outrage and disgust lead to insomnia.
Gromit | 04.26.08 - 6:06 pm


Well, then, never mind my suggestions.

Perhaps some Good Omens, or other Pratchett and Gaiman?


GravatarAmigos,

April 25th marks the 70th anniversary of Orwell's Homage to Catalonia.

I think the piece still resonates, see if this does no ring a bell:

all the usual war-stuff, the tub-thumping, the heroics, the vilification of the enemy --all these were done, as usual, by people who were not fighting and who in many cases would have run a hundred miles sooner than fight.

Oh, si, that does sound familiar.

Vamanos.


GravatarSenor Gato: HH Munro (Saki) referred in one of his stories to 'the reckless courage of the non-combatant'.


GravatarWell, I think that we're finally off to dinner.

In the meantime, enjoy this sweet song by Ryan Adams & The Cardinals.

Later.


GravatarNot everybody likes Davies, one of whose principal interests and sympathies is with the Poles. There are those who think he's too forgiving of Polish complicity in the Holocaust.
ProfWombat | 04.26.08 - 6:34 pm


I think he put out some overall Euro history opus about 10-12 yrs ago. Tried the section on the Balkans and wasn't impressed. Never bothered with the rest of the book.


GravatarDid you know that the Taliban controls 10% of Afghanistan, and that we're actually "surging" there?


GravatarHe views the conflict as, largely, that between evils, rather than an
unmitigated triumph of the good, and reorients his readers to the
vastness of the horrors of the Eastern front.


This is pretty much our take on it from a couple years after high school, once we had read much more broadly and had a deeper understanding than the standard censoring nonsense (Chapter One: All Broken Glass All the Time, Chapter Two: The Battle of Britain, Chapter Three: D-Day and the Boogy Woogy Bugle Boy of Company B, oh and also maybe there was a certain amount of Russian ... involvement or something), and it's also War Nerd Gary Brecher's. He wrote a couple of excellent articles, one on the horrors of the Eastern Front and another on the uselessness of the second world war, which like most of his stuff we very much agree with. One of the points he raises without making explicit (generally where we disagree with Brecher is we would say the same things much differently) is that the American cultural fascination with Nazi wierdness is necessary to distinguish Nazis from a universal imperial order that wasn't really all that different. Fascism went from being functionally universal to being severely restrained and segregated to certain "third-world" areas.


GravatarWe're making a run to the bookstore after dinner. Any recommendations?

Gromit | 04.26.08 - 5:50 pm

Ooooh, oooooh!!!!
Buy this one! Or, even better, this one! Back order is o-kay!


GravatarBuckeye: he wrote two big histories, 'Europe' and 'The Isles', about what some call the British Isles. Found the former mostly pretty compelling reading. The Balkans are tough for a lot of people, as you know far better than I. I recall a striking, bitter essay by Slavenka Drakulic about how easily Eurpoeans slip into thinking of Balkan nationalities as some sort of other, an incomprehensible holdover from more barbaric times....


GravatarProf Wombat,

But certainly, the noncombatants showing reckless courage are the ones stuck in the war zone, no?

Not those chickenhawks who are hundreds of miles away, safe at home, labeling every ideology that doesn't match theirs as "fascist". (Something else that Orwell covers in "Homage")

so.


GravatarWhat did I do with the rest of the little thingies that hold the shelves in place?


Gravatar*looks around*


What, nobody's screaming insults about supporters of (insert candidate's name)?

Weird.
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GravatarSenor Gato: In context, Munro was satirizing those whose courage emboldens them to the precise extent that they are distant from any consequence of battle. He wasn't talking about civilian non-combatants caught in a war zone. Your point is quite well taken.


GravatarNot those chickenhawks who are hundreds of miles away, safe at home, labeling every ideology that doesn't match theirs as "fascist". (Something else that Orwell covers in "Homage")

Unfortunately, Homage to Catalonia is not very well read (although it should be, IMHO, essential reading for anyone who aspires to a commission in the military) and Orwell's most renowned work is not seen as a warning, but as a blueprint by far too many.


GravatarWhat, nobody's screaming insults about supporters of (insert candidate's name)?

John McCain should be tied to a stake in a Louisiana floodplain. Along with his supporters.

Happy?


GravatarMcCain's supporters are all low-born canker'd whoreson nematodes.


Gravatar(slides Coke down to Mike)


Gravatar...I guess we haven't left yet.


GravatarHappy?
MikeJ



Ahhhh... now THAT'S more like it! Thank you very much, sir!
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GravatarProf, and Apprentice:

Si, and gracias.

GWPDA:

Put up more shelves?


GravatarProfWombat

And thanks to you also!

Seriously, I'd love to see more criticism directed towards the Repubes...
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Gravatardid like 8 hours of windshield time today which led to a lot of thinking time. radio off. 79 mph on a pool table top flat interstate out in the middle of nowhere. towns are 30 miles apart, but you can see the next towns watertower in the distance as you leave the last one. anyway, this song was in my head the whole time as i did my version of hurtling thru the space time continuum.

someday i'll figure out why...


GravatarI think the shelf fairies came and took them away.


GravatarIt's a great song, fokowi. It's probably my favorite by them.


GravatarHot chicks


GravatarAnyone seen the video of Michelle's 9/11 "chickens coming home to roost" party yet? I was there, it was really fun.


GravatarWhew! Have planned and purchased and cleaned space for the coop.

Then it started to rain.


Gravatar((Zap!))


Gravatar(((Molly)))

How's stuff by you?


GravatarWe're making a run to the bookstore after dinner. Any recommendations?

The most recent novel I read was "A Confederacy of Dunces."

It was frakking hilarious.


GravatarWe're making a run to the bookstore after dinner. Any recommendations?

That Yglesias kid has a new book. Nice to encourage him, and you can see how many homophones slipped past his editors.


GravatarI's going to be 4 x 12, nestled up against the back of the garage. That way I only have to build three walls, and I can take advantage of a preexisting roof overhang and some handy and sturdy 4x4 beams.


GravatarPat Robertson on 9/11:

We have insulted God at the highest level of our government. Then, we say, "Why does this happen?" It is happening because God Almighty is lifting His protection from us....

Don't ask why did it happen. It happened because people are evil. It also happened because God is lifting His protection from this nation and we must pray and ask Him for revival so that once again we will be His people, the planting of His righteousness, so that He will come to our defense and protect us as a nation. That is what I want to see and why we say we must have revival.

Jerry Falwell on 9/11:

God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/arc...ives/ 058126.php


GravatarWright speaks the truth, thus is a very frightening figure to the right, whose main enemy is the truth. Same with Gore, Kucinich and Michael Moore. It's why wingnut morons like Lubyanker and bugs attack the person rather than the message. Fear and weakness, breakfast of wingnuttia..


GravatarI's going to be 4 x 12, nestled up against the back of the garage. That way I only have to build three walls, and I can take advantage of a preexisting roof overhang and some handy and sturdy 4x4 beams.

How many trolls will it hold?


GravatarHow many trolls will it hold?
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) | 04.26.08 - 7:05 pm | #


Both of them, sounds like.


GravatarSee? ProfWombat has to go and be all rational again.

And I think we may be able to go out for dinner, finally. Zapette has turned off the Ambrosia.

Later!


Gravatar
How many trolls will it hold?


Oh, I don't think more than 4, do you?


GravatarWe're making a run to the bookstore after dinner. Any recommendations?

Gromit | 04.26.08 - 5:50 pm

Ooooh, oooooh!!!!
Buy this one! Or, even better, this one! Back order is o-kay!

GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.26.08 - 6:46 pm |


The second book is very good.

Though, sadly, no recipes or pictures of patios.


GravatarOK -- here is an excellent book:

http://www.amazon.com/Changing-F...09250501&sr=1- 1

The middling rating is because people who decided that he is anti-American for telling the truth gave him one star -- most of the others gave him five stars

He is the best military historian I know of -- I saved the link to his Common Dreams article about what would happen in Iraq -- he was right (OK, all of us were -- DFHs!)


GravatarGallup Daily - All Tied Up

http://www.gallup.com/poll/10682...ma-Tied- 47.aspx


says there is 4% undecided. Must be the super delegates


GravatarWhat did I do with the rest of the little thingies that hold the shelves in place?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.26.08 - 6:50 pm |


I have some extras. Should I send them through the wormhole?


GravatarWhew! Have planned and purchased and cleaned space for the coop.

I've seen this episode. Fred and Ethel Mertz are going to move out of the city to help with the chickens, right?


GravatarHow many trolls will it hold?
Harry Doghiney


I bet you could fit 50 in there.


GravatarI saw Wright on Moyers and he came off very good overall however there were a couple of strange moments that I'm afraid could be used against Obama in future campaign commercials. At the very end he was talking about the old testament and turned to the side and muttered something about the jews. What he was doing was imitating an anti-semite but it really was done in poor taste.


GravatarFred and Ethel Mertz are going to move out of the city to help with the chickens, right?

Thers is from Queens; does that count?


GravatarWhat he was doing was imitating an anti-semite but it really was done in poor taste.
chile | 04.26.08 - 7:08 pm | #

We note your concern. We also note that the right will make shit up no matter what actually happened.


GravatarBuckeye: he wrote two big histories, 'Europe' and 'The Isles', about what some call the British Isles. Found the former mostly pretty compelling reading. The Balkans are tough for a lot of people, as you know far better than I. I recall a striking, bitter essay by Slavenka Drakulic about how easily Eurpoeans slip into thinking of Balkan nationalities as some sort of other, an incomprehensible holdover from more barbaric times....
ProfWombat | 04.26.08 - 6:46 pm |


Twas Europe.

I know I've asked this of you before, but have your read Maria Todorova's Imagining the Balkans?


GravatarSo did everybody get what they wanted from the Draft?


GravatarDamon on with 1 out in the 9th.


GravatarSo did everybody get what they wanted from the Draft?

I wanted Rush Limbaugh to be shipped off to the Afghan-Pakistan border.


GravatarThers is from Queens; does that count?

I was thinking of this:

http://www.tv.com/i-love-lucy/lu...70/ summary.html


GravatarSomebody just told me Gore's not running fpr president. So why am I so obsessed with him? Is it love, or just a crush?


GravatarSomebody just told me Gore's not running fpr president. So why am I so obsessed with him? Is it love, or just a crush?
Lubyanka


He's straight and married.


GravatarImitation isn't quite the right word. He was mocking an anti-semite in a way. Bet your bottom dollar we'll see this again. There were other moments where he seemed to be moving into firebrand sermon mode that didn't really make sense. In contrast to an otherwise very normal and warm demeanor the man almost comes off like he has a slpit personality.


GravatarBuckeye: not yet; I'll get to it sooner...


GravatarI wanted Rush Limbaugh to be shipped off to the Afghan-Pakistan border.
Harry Doghiney


The Raiders drafted him I think.


GravatarI wanted Rush Limbaugh to be shipped off to the Afghan-Pakistan border.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) | 04.26.08 - 7:12 pm | #

Oddly I never would have thought of this but now that you mention it, number one o my list.


GravatarI'm not a doctor, but I like to play doctor.


GravatarBuckeye: not yet; I'll get to it sooner...
ProfWombat | 04.26.08 - 7:13 pm |


That and Tom Gallagher's Outcast Europe series on the SE Europe.


GravatarHe's straight and married.
Gomez | 04.26.08 - 7:13 pm | #

Even better. I can't reach Craig any more, and Gannon thinks he's too good for me. And I'm too old for Foley.


GravatarI was surprised Limbaugh was still there when the Raiders picked.


GravatarLimbaugh has amazing ability to go to his right. A touch slow in the 40 though.


Gravatar“Farewell Israel”: Myth and Reality

By Alan Hart

Israel’s military leaders and their political yes-men don’t believe, and never have believed, that Iran, if it possessed nuclear weapons, would unleash them in a first strike against the Zionist state. The real problem for its leaders is that the moment Israel ceased to be the only nuclear-armed power in the region, would be the moment it lost its ability to impose its will on the region. Continue

www.informationclearinghouse.info


GravatarMel Kiper says that Rumsfeld is still on the board.


GravatarA touch slow in the 40 though.
Gomez | 04.26.08 - 7:17 pm | #

Fuck that. I can drain a 40 in one swig. How do you think I got this gut?


GravatarOoh - I'm listening to the worst Who bootleg I've ever heard. Recorded at Kilburn in December 1977 - legendarily bad gig recorded but rejected for The Kids Are Alright film.

Those boys needed some rehearsal.


GravatarThe Raiders drafted him I think.

For what? Assistant waterboy? He's not qualified for anything else...


GravatarGomez: Rush is probably pretty fast if given the right incentive...


GravatarBut Bush isn't Catholic. He's a Methodist. Who never goes to church. So it's all completely different.


GravatarI don't actually go to my right; I just talk about it.


GravatarFor what? Assistant waterboy? He's not qualified for anything else...
Apprentice to Darth Holden


He's a first class Tight End/Wide Receiver from what I hear.


GravatarGeorge Tenet bombed at the combine. Probably a free agent signing somewhere.


GravatarNew insights from Mo Dowd

Literally — at a birthday party in Philly for her photographer, she was devouring the chips and dip with two hands — and viscerally.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/2...ion/ 27dowd.html


GravatarGeorge Tenet bombed at the combine.

Bill Bennett broke the scale at the weigh-in.


GravatarRumsfeld is projected as a Shutdown Corner.


GravatarBill Bennett broke the scale at the weigh-in.
Harry Doghiney


He's gonna slide. Gambling Issues.


GravatarBut Bush isn't Catholic. He's a Methodist. Who never goes to church. So it's all completely different.

Actually, the Methodists don't want him.

His true invisible sky buddy is Mammon.


GravatarHe's gonna slide. Gambling Issues.

He and Pacman Jones will get along famously in Dallas.

OK, I'm off to the opera. Have a good night, loosers! Luv & kisses.


GravatarBarney Frank is still on the board. His coach says that if you don't put a man on him, he'll take you deep.


GravatarHe's a first class Tight End/Wide Receiver from what I hear.

A player comforter? Not unless the player is blind, or in the "Hug Ditka" mode.


GravatarMaureen Dowd is Judith Miller's 'artistic' side.


GravatarIranians are probably the shrewdest, coolest-headed people in the Middle East,
and have been for thousands of years. They have always been stronger than they look and have always been a serious threat to competing empires, especially when the competition doesn't see any consequences for messing with them.


GravatarI know I've asked this of you before, but have you read Maria Todorova's Imagining the Balkans?

I like to read Aubrey Herbert's reports on the Balkans, followed by Kim Philby's MI6 analyses.  Interesting comparisons.  Along with Philby selling out the Greeks of course.


GravatarDowd doesn't have Judith F. Miller's accuracy or grand overview...


GravatarHe's a Methodist. Who never goes to church.

Same method I use...


GravatarDowd doesn't have Judith F. Miller's accuracy or grand overview...
ProfWombat


And you don't want to go down the middle on Dowd either.


GravatarJust lifting a quote from Maureen Dowd the Impaler; this Clyburn quote seems accurate:

James Clyburn, the influential black congressman from South Carolina, says that some blacks are buying into the 2012 Tonya Harding conspiracy theory: that the Clintons know they can’t beat Obama this time, so they are “hell-bound,” as Clyburn put it, to shred him so he’ll lose to McCain and Hillary will be able to try again in 2012 — when McCain is 76.

In interviews, Clyburn called the tactics of the Clintons and their henchmen “bizarre,” “disingenuous” and “scurrilous.”


GravatarWell, given the ass-kicking the Iraqis are administering to Bushco, there isn't much question on the Iranians not fighting ack very effectively. Bushco likes mass-murder, even it it's of our own troops.


GravatarThis won't happen when I'm preznit. And you can take that to the bank.


GravatarThe No. 3 Al Qaeda man is coming off a serious injury.


GravatarMike Gravel: major sleeper.


GravatarIn interviews, Clyburn called the tactics of the Clintons and their henchmen “bizarre,” “disingenuous” and “scurrilous.”

Whatever.


GravatarIranians are probably the shrewdest, coolest-headed people in the Middle East,
and have been for thousands of years. They have always been stronger than they look and have always been a serious threat to competing empires, especially when the competition doesn't see any consequences for messing with them.

k&y, porn dragons | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 7:25 pm | #



'We' of course could destroy them in 24 hours at which point another unwinnable scenario would develop.


GravatarIn interviews, Clyburn called the tactics of the Clintons and their henchmen “bizarre,” “disingenuous” and “scurrilous.”


Aw...he's just jealous that he didn't think of it first.


GravatarReally, I think Obama should embrace this idea to better position him in November. I understand that he needs to marginalize Clinton to seize that Cloak of Inevitability, but strategically this makes sense and might even give him a foundation for similarly challenging McCain during the general campaign.

ntodd


Absolutely!


GravatarFascism with horns and hooves or without?

Sometimes U.S. political choices are something that narrow.


GravatarNukes don't work right in a mountain range that has been preparing for war with the US for the history of its current government, which easily describes either the IRI or the DPRK.


GravatarThere were other moments where he seemed to be moving into firebrand sermon mode that didn't really make sense. In contrast to an otherwise very normal and warm demeanor the man almost comes off like he has a slpit personality.

No almost about it. I used to work for a Pentecostal preacher who sold furniture. Regular guy, if a bit of a prig at times. Mostly sensible, on an even keel. Then I heard a tape of one of his sermons...Hoolawdy!


GravatarMolly, we need more cowbells. Or sheets.


GravatarFascism with horns and hooves or without?

Sometimes U.S. political choices are something that narrow.
Echidne | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 7:33 pm | #



With a briefcase!


GravatarHaylo


GravatarOK. Everybody just had to take a tackle so there's none left.

Bunch of greedy bastards.


GravatarNo almost about it. I used to work for a Pentecostal preacher who sold furniture. Regular guy, if a bit of a prig at times. Mostly sensible, on an even keel. Then I heard a tape of one of his sermons...Hoolawdy!
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 7:34 pm | #



Do you want this coffee table with or without glossallia?


GravatarWhy criticize Carter for negotiations with Hamas, Barack?


GravatarI'd love to give a good sermon. I can do some real good ones, with snake revivals and faintings and speaking in parseltongue. Oh lordess!


GravatarWhy criticize Carter for negotiations with Hamas, Barack?


To upstage me, of course.


GravatarClinton to Obama: Let's debate like Lincoln

Obama to Clinton: Suck my balls like Cartman.


GravatarWhy criticize Carter for negotiations with Hamas, Barack?

There is still a certain amount of stupidity that nobody has a choice about in public. Barack has already made almost dangerously clear whose side he's on, there's no need to be stupid about it.


GravatarAll that the idiotic sabre rattling has down so far is get more conservatives elected in Iran and increase the price of oil. It's a win-win situation for the folks in power over there.

If Bushco bombs them, all that will happen is that those trends will continue.

The neocon morons unfortunately live in a fantasy world not dissimilar from a troop of chimpanzees. They figure that all the US has to do is slap on its chest loudly enough to assert dominance and the Iranian people will rise up to overthrow their "weak" leaders and allow their country to become a colony.


GravatarAnyone on this thread who isn't a troll, please hold up your hand (or scales as the case may be)


GravatarThey figure that all the US has to do is slap on its chest loudly enough to assert dominance and the Iranian people will rise up to overthrow their "weak" leaders and allow their country to become a colony.

Because it worked so well in Iraq!


GravatarI'm grumpy, but I ain't no troll.


GravatarThe Michigan QB is dropping like a stone.


GravatarI'm a draft troll.


Gravatar"Anyone on this thread who isn't a troll, please hold up your hand (or scales as the case may be)"
--The Kenosha Kid



Gravatar


GravatarI am the only non-troll according to my therapist, guru, yogic master, rebirthing 'coach,' and wall-poster of I.F. Stone.


GravatarAnyone on this thread who isn't a troll, please hold up your hand (or scales as the case may be)

Well, I'm trying to get a footbridge in the local state park fixed. I don't think caring about bridges automatically makes me a troll.


GravatarRichard: agreed. It's to Ahmadinejad's every domestic advantage to confront a foe like Bush.

American policy towards Iran is criminally stupid, and has been at least since we overthrew Mossadegh.


Gravatarthere, now my name is non-confrontational and I'm hungry.


Gravatar


GravatarAmerican policy towards Iran is criminally stupid, and has been at least since we overthrew Mossadegh.

Stupid only if you assume Bush isn't secretly on the Iranian payroll. If you assume this, absurd as it sounds, it's been brilliant from day one.


Gravatar I don't think caring about bridges automatically makes me a troll.

Not unless you want to live underneath it.


GravatarOK, I think Baltar IS the 12th Cylon. It's all in the Number Six hallucinations.


GravatarI'm most likely not a troll. Never had a Cheeto in my whole life.


GravatarTo be clearer about my statement above, I think Bush is stupid and on our side, not a clever traitor. I merely presented the possibility.


GravatarI'm grumpy, but I ain't no troll.
Richard


[whispers]
I'm bashful, and I'm not a troll, either...


Gravatari am not a troll but i am eating a pretzel.


GravatarI wonder if the Cleveland people showed up at the draft today?


GravatarBush would give Number Six the Defense Mainframe codes in a friggin' heartbeat.


GravatarMikeJ: a friend of mine in college and I came up with the Paranoid's Catechism:

1. It's too much to be a coincidence.
2. That's what they want you to believe.
3. Being paranoid doesn't exclude the possibility that they're really out to get you.
4. They can't be so stupid, incompetent, ignorant as to act that way because they really believe they're doing the right thing, so it must be a plot.


GravatarBush would give Number Six the Defense Mainframe codes in a friggin' heartbeat.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


I'd give Seven of Nine my friggin soul.


GravatarOk, I'm not waiting fifteen more minutes more cocktail hour to begin.


Gravatar"I'm most likely not a troll. Never had a Cheeto in my whole life."
--Echidne

I haven't had one for years, but I actually like the original cheetos (not the puffed-up, soft spongy kind). They do tend to stain the fingertips though.


GravatarI'm most likely not a troll. Never had a Cheeto in my whole life.
Echidne


I would troll for Cheese Waffees, but they don't make 'em anymore...


GravatarTurkey bombing Northern Iraq again:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4498660a12.html
Does this get reported in the U.S.?


Gravatar
Because it worked so well in Iraq!


There was an article I read last year (in Newsweek as I recall) where they quoted some anonymous neocon in the administration. The source outlined that insane "if we show we are strong the Iranian people will flock to us" plan.

Shows of strength and dominance may work with elephant seals and rutting moose, but not so well with humans.


GravatarI can haz troll snax?


Gravatar"Ok, I'm not waiting fifteen more minutes more cocktail hour to begin."
--MikeJ

Reading that makes me think you started an hour or so ago.


Gravatar They do tend to stain the fingertips though.
mer


It is by will alone I set my keyboard in motion...


GravatarS H E E T S


GravatarGalactic owls!!!!


GravatarBush would give Number Six the Defense Mainframe codes in a friggin' heartbeat.

Not like you mean. He'd be absent-mindedly reading it out loud from a classified index card at the gym trying to memorize it.


GravatarGreetings again, folks.

I was somewhat surprised to see the same thread as when I left. Our host usually puts up a new one just before he leaves for an evening out.


GravatarAnyone on this thread who isn't a troll, please hold up your hand (or scales as the case may be)

US!  Arthur's holding up TWO paws.....


GravatarAmerican policy towards the rest of the world is criminally stupid, and has been at least since we sent the Maine to Havana

(verb)'d yer (noun)


GravatarMessiah Obama to Billary:

"Can you keep bitch-slapping me like that? Reminds me of Michelle..."


Gravatar"Stupid only if you assume Bush isn't secretly on the Iranian payroll. "

I thought he was on the Saudi payroll? Can one serve two masters at the same time?


GravatarIt's vitally important, when you follow a religion, to refer to all members of other religions as "heathen hellspawn."
Oh, Babylon.


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