I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Raise the Titanic!
Remember the Maine!
Intercourse the penguin!
etc
Where's PA?
res ipsa has mail! And Halloween pix!
Obama's even gaining in UTAH!
stand up, get that wild look in yer beady little eyes and fight! fight!
There are eels on the hovercraft!
Chimpy and Maverick already assigning blame
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...8110100850.html
& most shocking, Broder doesn't totally suck today!
Obviously the expanding list of battlegrounds is excellent news for J McC.
Why is everybody yelling?!?
I am in the office and turning into a zombie.
We have had three canvasses today and some out now.
I am phone banking now.
As for Lieberwhore, I'd like to see all the Senate Dems walking around wearing these.
Repukes trying to prove Obama's book written by Ayres
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle5063279.ece
Obviously the expanding list of battlegrounds is excellent news for J McC.
"Yes. Yes it is." -- Rick Davis.
(o)(o)
wŇÓ†
hey! where are the blue feet?
somebody stole the boobies booties.
Almost there, ms. fahrenheit! You can do this!
Battleground States
Quite the list.
-Atrios
McCain's got Obama right where he wants him.
Ha. Ha. Ha. CO, VA, NM, NH, NV, and IA aren't even on the list! That's a 284 EV victory even if McCain runs that table.
Six states will not staunch the McCain stuck like a pit bleeding.
Ha. Ha. Ha. CO, VA, NM, NH, NV, and IA aren't even on the list! That's a 284 EV victory even if McCain runs that table.
according to cnn, the EV count is 291 O, 160 M
[shakes Frist, gets video diagnosis... incorrectly, of course]
.
The Obama forces are being repelled! We are winning the battle!
that map is beautiful
so are all of you
most of all so is Atrios
thought I'd better say it before he shuts r down
Shit! Stuck like a pig. Completely good analogy ruined by a misspelling.
Wow, what a load of fucking shit that Post article is:
...according to allies inside and outside the White House, Bush's mood remains buoyant and his attention is focused on the global financial collapse. In private meetings with business leaders, Bush has made a point of saying that he is happy the crisis happened on his watch so the next president and a new economic team do not have to grapple with it.
The fuck he is. And "buoyant" = "drunk".
"His high energy level and spirit sets the tone for the rest of us," said Kevin Sullivan, Bush's communications director. "There's been no time to worry about any of this other stuff. . . . He believes the American people expect us to finish strong and to leave things in the best possible position for his successor."
Like I said: dead drunk.
Others inside and outside the administration, however, say the upbeat talk masks disappointment and frustration among many White House staffers, who believe Bush's reputation has been unfairly maligned for a series of calamities -- from the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to the financial crisis -- that were beyond his control and which he handled well. GOP nominee John McCain's escalating attacks on Bush's tenure have added to irritation, these people said.
"Everybody kind of wanted to spend the last 100-plus days doing some legacy things, and the financial crisis has thrown a wrench into that," said one prominent Republican who regularly talks with senior White House officials.
"You have a combination of no legacy stuff, a horrible economic mess and the likelihood that Obama is going to win," this person added. "There is a real sadness there."
And a million tiny violins begin to play...
Hey George - see you in the Hague, motherfucker!
I like stuck like a pit bleeding. It has possibilities.
it must be very disheartening to be in the mcspain camp right now. i can just hear them. "dood, we're never going to work in politics again, you know?"
thought I'd better say it before he shuts r down
Like Duncan has a life. This is his life. He can't quit us.
Don't make me bring out t3h kittehs.
.
according to cnn, the EV count is 291 O, 160 M
Anon, Candydrunk
Oops. 291 it is. I forgot to toggle DC, HI, and VT on the scenario map.
CO, VA, NM, NH, NV, and IA aren't even on the list! That's a 284 EV victory even if McCain runs that table.
Tune in to CNN anyway! Please!! Somebody watch us!!!
Ha. Ha. Ha. CO, VA, NM, NH, NV, and IA aren't even on the list! That's a 284 EV victory even if McCain runs that table.
according to cnn, the EV count is 291 O, 160 M
Anon
So, 291 "safe Obama," 160 "safe McCain," and the rest "Battleground."
Can anyone say "Elephant in the room?" No? How about "800 lb. Gorilla?"
Let's not forget to knock on doors, make phone calls, etc.
Must. Win.
"I have 538 men to cheat on Todd with"-Sarah Palin
Like Duncan has a life. This is his life. He can't quit us.
Monica_A: Killfiled
Nor we him. Alas.
Repukes trying to prove Obama's book written by Ayres
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle5063279.ece
P O'Neill | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 5:50 pm | #
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So a Murdock rag in UK prints a story so a Murdock rag in the US can reprint it.......
Nuffin left 4 us to do but vote now. And deface a few "yes on 8" signs with placards that say "HATE" in big red letters.
I like stuck like a pit bleeding. It has possibilities.
Echidne
"Squealing like a stuck pig" is how I heard it growing up. "Stuck" meaning caught under a fence, unable to get away.
North Dakota? A state with 3 EV's is a "battleground state"?
Really?
"We have equivalent of Joe the Plumber, it's called Marcel the guy with bread under his armpit!"
From the link
The blogs will be different after the elections, no way around it. It will be interesting to see what happens.
So a Murdock rag in UK prints a story so a Murdock rag in the US can reprint it.......
pigboy
complete coincidence.
/snark.
"Everybody kind of wanted to spend the last 100-plus days in Berlin in the spring of 1945 doing some legacy things, and the crisis has thrown a wrench into that," said one prominent Nazi who regularly talks with senior White House officials.
hmm
you're still talking about politics.
eventually you'll get back to booze, recipes, and fucking
and tits
EPIC PWN!
So, 291 "safe Obama," 160 "safe McCain," and the rest "Battleground."
Can anyone say "Elephant in the room?" No? How about "800 lb. Gorilla?"
Are we annexing some countries? I'm no math genius, but even if McCain won all the battleground states listed he still would be a little short in the EV.
Thanks Ali, I'm trying.
I love my volunteers. A 74YO man did two canvasses today. Three of us have been here nine hours already.
We are getting messages from people that they have already been called today. This is curious because we are the only Obama workers calling this county.
Fuckers.
So, 291 "safe Obama," 160 "safe McCain," and the rest "Battleground."
Gets better.
Out of the McCain, only 121 are "safe" while 39 lean.
Obama, 203 safe, 88 lean.
McCain has only 121 he can count on, with 39 in reserve. Obama can nearly count on his leans and some of the battlegrounds to get to victory.
McCain cannot win.
Like Duncan has a life. This is his life. He can't quit us.
i suspect that will change when atrios makes a little atriette with mrs. atrios.
If the best political team on the planet really were that, then they would have GA listed as a battleground. With the black early vote turnout at 35%, the total black turnout could be over 31% if only 70,000 more blacks vote on Nov. 4 in GA, while the total vote goes 1/3 more than the 2004 vote. In the case of a 31% or better black turnout in GA, then McCain's chance are slim at best, and slim better describes Obama.
"I have 538 men to cheat on Todd with"-Sarah Palin
So the strategy is now to try to nail (down) some faithless electors?
North Dakota? A state with 3 EV's is a "battleground state"?
Really?
Rmj
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!!
Hey kids - you might thinking about ordering a few of these to wear to the inaugural...
"You have a combination of no legacy stuff, a horrible economic mess and the likelihood that Obama is going to win," this person added. "There is a real sadness there."
it's bittersweet, but one thing i'm happy about is that bush got left holding the big shitpile.
even Hercules would think twice about wanting to clean up this mess.
The blogs will be different after the elections, no way around it. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Echidne
I'm somewhat worried that this place will become "all ragging on the Democrats, all the time".
{{{{{ms fahrenheit/camelot }}}}}
complete coincidence.
/snark.
Ali, going rogue | 11.01.08 - 5:57 pm | #
that or hard working in-depth reporting at work....
/snark back at ya...
it must be very disheartening to be in the mcspain camp right now. i can just hear them. "dood, we're never going to work in politics again, you know?"
chicago dyke, rake
I was thinking that if the media-political establishment had any decency (I know, I know....) people like Nancy Pfotenhauer and Michael Goldfarb and Steve Schmidt would be studying for their real estate exams, but I'm sure they'll be the go-to talking heads for "What's going wrong in the Obama administration?" stories. One of each will be a regular on CNN and/or MSNBC, never mind Fox.
North Dakota? A state with 3 EV's is a "battleground state"?
Really? -Rmj, Joe the Theologist
My friends, we're fucked ...
Question: If McCain won all six battleground states, what would his odds of winning the election be?
I think Atrios has mentioned that he was intrigued by actual policy and such during the Clinton years when ideas and thingees mattered.
Perhaps there will be more of a focus on Supertrains. There can never be too many supertrains.
Nor we him. Alas.
Agreed.
i suspect that will change when atrios makes a little atriette with mrs. atrios.
chicago dyke, rake
He'll just have to learn how to breastfeed while bloging.
I'm no math genius, but even if McCain won all the battleground states listed he still would be a little short in the EV.
Monica_A:
Actually, that makes you a math genius.
That's the point. If Obama loses every "battleground" state, he still wins.
But we've got to keep up the pretence. Ratings, you know.
Perhaps there will be more of a focus on Supertrains. There can never be too many supertrains.
I want one from the kitchen to my bedside, bringing coffee and croissants early in the morning. Or whenever I wake up.
Supertrains and land use policy, 24/7.
Repukes trying to prove Obama's book written by Ayers
Yeah, because we all know Obama isn't smart enough to write a book himself.
/snark
If McCain won all six battleground states, what would his odds of winning the election be?
Assuming McCain has 160 and he gets the 87 tossups that's 247.
Cannot. Win.
Perhaps there will be more of a focus on Supertrains. There can never be too many supertrains.
Maybe this will become the all-transportation blog.
I'd probably still read it. Public transit fascinates me.
That Times story, as I read it, is some winger thinks this is what happened, Ayers wrote BO's book, and believes a computer program will prove it but he needs to raise the money to pay for that run.
Holy fuck. The only news here is that the man is certifiable and the rag printing the "story" is a waste of ink.
/Slaps forehead repeatedly
North Dakota? A state with 3 EV's is a "battleground state"?
Really?
Rmj, Joe the Theologist
50 states, bro. Landslide time!
blerb, did you see that samuel jackson made a no on 8 ad? it's over at joemygod. it's very smooooth.
"We have equivalent of Joe the Plumber, it's called Marcel the guy with bread under his armpit!"
jes. ess true. and you know, zee baguette meks a wonderfool loofa.
I'm somewhat worried that this place will become "all ragging on the Democrats, all the time".
blerb
Purists vs Pragmatists. It'll make the primary wars look like a game of D&D. Thank god we'll have Broder and his ilk to bring us together from time to time..
I will go check it out.
i suspect that will change when atrios makes a little atriette with mrs. atrios.
Well, it hasn't stopped Marshall and Orange Satan. Though they did farm out most of the work...
ah! I am on a newt gingrich call 
I believe in gay marriage.
Why should only straights be forced to visit the in laws on the week-end?
i suspect that will change when atrios makes a little atriette with mrs. atrios.
If they're interested in skipping the not sleeping through the night/potty training stages, I have a 15 year-old for sale.
A guest poster at 538.com predicts Obama gets 396 EV.
Hoowee, we just had a lightening strike so close it set off car alarms.
good planning and early action is what it is all about.
Well, it hasn't stopped Marshall and Orange Satan. Though they did farm out most of the work...
dave™©
"Wheeee".
"Afternoon thread."
"Evening thread."
"You people talk too much."
This is work?
okay. logging for now. later, atriots.
A guest poster at 538.com predicts Obama gets 396 EV.
racymind
This is good news for Republicans.
which is more important taxes or current energy crisis.....
Repukes trying to prove Obama's book written by Ayres
God almighty, that makes The Quest for the Birth Certificate look like the Genome Project. Fuckin' loonies.
A thunderstorm in Southern Cali is as rare as a smart republican
breastblogging? i dunno, blerb. that sounds...odd.
army of conservatives!
which is more important taxes or current energy crisis.....
Energy crisis.
Blogging is work, yeah. There's a lot of hidden stuff under the posts, lots of reading and thinking and shit.
Give Atrios credit for talking "big shitpile" before "shitpile" was cool.
I am somewhat surprised to see CNN call Ohio a battleground state. Nate at fivethirtyeight sez it's 86% likely to go Blue.
On the other hand, they don't call PA a battleground state. Nate's got that at 99%.
I think Obama will focus heavy on energy policy. There will be a new era of wonkishness where nerds rule the day.
We still have Bush dog democrats. There will be plenty to discuss.
A guest poster at 538.com predicts Obama gets 396 EV.
racymind
Damn. He'd have to win MT and ND to get that.
I have a question. Did Bruce Willis ever play John McCain in a movie. The last person called is voting for McCain because Bruce Willis played him in a movie, and his running partner is a hotty.
I once was sitting on my deck with some friends and had lightning hit maybe 15 yards away. You could literally smell it.
newt wants to send me a book of Drill here and Drill now
I'm sorry? "North" Dakota?
You want me to believe there's a place called "North" Dakota? And it has electoral college votes?
A thunderstorm in Southern Cali is as rare as a smart republican
We have leaves. Everywhere. They glare at me and mutter about raking and gutters and what happens if I let them go mushy and heavy with rain before I act. Disheartening.
Giving McCain't every one of those states brings us up to my predicted EV split, w/Obama @ 291, McCain't 247. Same state predictions, an' all.
I did this at res' urging, the other day.
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I once was sitting on my deck with some friends and had lightning hit maybe 15 yards away. You could literally smell it.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 11.01.08 - 6:04 pm | #
Ozone!
The last person called is voting for McCain because Bruce Willis played him in a movie, and his running partner is a hotty.
No.
Energy crisis.
Monica_A: Killfiled | 11.01.08 - 6:04 pm | #
Wrong! Taxes
The last person called is voting for McCain because Bruce Willis played him in a movie, and his running partner is a hotty.
ms fahrenheit/camelot
If you think stupid is hot.....
A guest poster at 538.com predicts Obama gets 396 EV.
racymind | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 6:02 pm | #
396 was my prediction a few days back as well. Although I think getting Montana may be over the top. But
I think Georgia is doable. And who knows maybe even Arizona, which would put Obama over 400
A thought: Are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly et al. really gonna call a 60-40 popular vote, 370-168 electoral vote result "illegitimate"? This from the gang that thought 270-268 was "a mandate".
my boss is letting me borrow his leaf blower Echidne. It's electric. Moe would only semi dissaprove. It's waiting until after the election though.
Can't do leaves until Obama wins. That is what I tell Mrs. Trifecta anyways.
The last person called is voting for McCain because Bruce Willis played him in a movie, and his running partner is a hotty.
ms fahrenheit/camelot
Excuse me, I have to bash my own skull in with a hammer.
It's okay, I already voted. You kids hold Obama's feet to the progressive fire after I'm gone now.
I have a question. Did Bruce Willis ever play John McCain in a movie. The last person called is voting for McCain because Bruce Willis played him in a movie, and his running partner is a hotty.
ms fahrenheit
The "Die Hard" guy is John McClane.
I should have said that Energy Crisis was more important... damn...
how thick do you have to be to think Sarko was calling you?
i mean didn't she find it a little odd that Sarko was apparently calling her?
how thick do you have to be to think Sarko would call some VP candiate he probably hasn't heard of?
i mean didn't she find it a little odd that Sarko was apparently calling her?
This is work?
Rmj, Joe the Theologist
it's fuck'n genius is what it is.
joe the plumber seethes with jealousy.
If they're interested in skipping the not sleeping through the night/potty training stages, I have a 15 year-old for sale.
Excellent! I could probably find a 12 or 13 yo, if they'd like to enjoy the surly years....
Wrong! Taxes
I'll always have to pay taxes. Why can't we create something good?
Fuck me. McCain on the radio just now: "Joe the Plumber made it very clear to the American people...."
I really do wonder if his mentis is compis.
how thick do you have to be to think Sarko was calling you?
i mean didn't she find it a little odd that Sarko was apparently calling her?
has she never heard Sarko's voice
i mean at any point she should of suspected it wasn't Sarko
Are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly et al. really gonna call a 60-40 popular vote, 370-168 electoral vote result "illegitimate"?
Oh, you KNOW they will.
So will the cretins who listen to/watch them.
Blogging is work, yeah. There's a lot of hidden stuff under the posts, lots of reading and thinking and shit.
Echidne
Well, it's not like he has a real job.
Or three of them....
sorry for that, been having trouble with my crappy computer
If Atrios does have a kid, I hope he dresses him/her in turtlenecks.
I don't bother with leaves. Fuck it.
Excellent! I could probably find a 12 or 13 yo, if they'd like to enjoy the surly years....
Does your 12 year-old come with three gaming systems, including a Wii?
That was pretty good! I like the comparison to the Japanese internment camps.
A thought: Are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly et al. really gonna call a 60-40 popular vote, 370-168 electoral vote result "illegitimate"? This from the gang that thought 270-268 was "a mandate".
David Derbes
Yes. This has been another edition . . .
And now, I must go plant the tomatoes. We seem to have just skipped ahead directly to early April here.
The "guest poster" at 538.com is pulling your leg. Later on, he predicts that 538 becomes a porn site.
I need to do the math. Not THE math, but the math.
Only Karl the Infallible Genius can do THE math.
ms fahrenheit/camelot -- In 117 calls made to NC, I've only heard the n-word once, and it was the least pleasant of all my calls.
.
Palin doesn't have any grownups on the staff to vet unexpected phone calls? WTF!
Purists vs Pragmatists. It'll make the primary wars look like a game of D&D.
i'm sure people will hate me for it, but i'm going to take a page from the successful element of the wackjob right. sure, radical progressives like me may only make up 10-20% of the population at best, but you betcha i'm going to scream and gnash and bitch and cajole like we are a huge majority.
i'll let the centrists and moderates be civil. myself, i'm going to continue to demand an end to war, universal health care, no bailouts for billionaires, etc. i won't be sorry to do so, no matter whose feelings are hurt. being silent and keeping powder dry hasn't worked for us at all, imho. it's time to adopt a winning strategy. it worked for the fundies, so it can work for us. and we're smarter.
"his running partner is a hotty."
No she's not.
trust me on this.
stupid like that can't be hot
Are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly et al. really gonna call a 60-40 popular vote, 370-168 electoral vote result "illegitimate"?
One word: ACORN.
I'll always have to pay taxes. Why can't we create something good?
Monica_A: Killfiled | 11.01.08 - 6:06 pm | #
AH!!! bad republican.... bad!
Does your 12 year-old come with three gaming systems, including a Wii?
Nah - but the whine mode is enabled, in constant demand for them.
The last person called is voting for McCain because Bruce Willis played him in a movie, and his running partner is a hotty.
I should get to vote twice for that.
stupid like that can't be hot
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Wingnut males think stupid is hot.
i'll let the centrists and moderates be civil. myself, i'm going to continue to demand an end to war, universal health care, no bailouts for billionaires, etc. i won't be sorry to do so, no matter whose feelings are hurt. being silent and keeping powder dry hasn't worked for us at all, imho. it's time to adopt a winning strategy. it worked for the fundies, so it can work for us. and we're smarter.
Yep.
breastblogging? i dunno, blerb. that sounds...odd.
chicago dyke, rake
you'd be amazed to know what i did while breastfeeding
i'm sure people will hate me for it, but i'm going to take a page from the successful element of the wackjob right. sure, radical progressives like me may only make up 10-20% of the population at best, but you betcha i'm going to scream and gnash and bitch and cajole like we are a huge majority.
No hate here. I like Obama, but he's a centrist, and we're gonna have to keep fighting. As someone here said (the Learned Marsupial?), the fight doesn't end on Tuesday, it moves to a different field.
Thank god we'll have Broder and his ilk to bring us together from time to time..
BlueinColorado ,
ATD Holden made the same point when I raised this concern the other day. It's true, there will still be plenty of common ground. I just hope people have a little patience. The Reagan Revolution was not built in a day either.
The last person called is voting for McCain because Bruce Willis played him in a movie...
Maybe it's a parody troll - Willis plays John McClane in the "Die Hard" movies...
The "guest poster" at 538.com is pulling your leg. Later on, he predicts that 538 becomes a porn site.
"EV: Obama 396 -- Kerry states plus IA, NM, CO, VA, NV, FL, OH, MO, NC, IN, MT, ND, GA. The state Obama will win by the smallest margin will be Georgia, the closest state he'll lose will be West Virginia."
We can dream can't we?
The name Dick Armey never fails to make me LOL.
Obama will win 286-252 with a 3% pop vote majority..
That's my conservative prediction now that Auntie Illegal Immigrant will dominate the last couple days of the campaign.
,I should get to vote twice for that.
A. Morphous
So not only did I miss the 70th anniversary of Orson Welles' broadcast of "War of the Worlds," I missed its technological update.
JP
I'm sorry you had to deal with a racist.
Blodge
Is that you? We can't talk about sex here because the DFO is embarrassed that women of my age have sex.
The name Dick Armey never fails to make me LOL.
Cookie Fleck '08 | 11.01.08 - 6:12 pm | #
A-ten-shun!
The little ol lady attempting to terrify me with Obama, Pelosi and Reid (oh my) was too sweet to be mean too. She kept lowering the donation level to the point where I finally said I cannot afford to donate because all my donations were going to Democrats.... at which point she said she was sorry to have wasted my time..... which I said it wasn't a waste of time at all.. (it had kept her from calling someone who may have donated)
And now, I must go plant the tomatoes. We seem to have just skipped ahead directly to early April here.
GWPDA
/seething in jealousy/
...but i guess it's ok we're getting cold here. kills the bugs, snow does. and none of those giant biting jumping spider creatures here in the land of fall color, no sir.
Obama to McCain at roughly 9:30 pm on Tuesday evening:
"Yippee kai yay, motherfucker!"
it had kept her from calling someone who may have donated)
pigboy
Your money's no good at my bar, pigboy.
..but i guess it's ok we're getting cold here. kills the bugs, snow does. and none of those giant biting jumping spider creatures here in the land of fall color, no sir.
chicago dyke, rake | Homepage | 11.01.08 - 6:14 pm | #
I like the end of the crickets (for a while)
...but i guess it's ok we're getting cold here. kills the bugs, snow does. and none of those giant biting jumping spider creatures here in the land of fall color, no sir.
Reminds me to harvest the last sage and thyme before the killing frost.
"Is that you?"
Yes.
"We can't talk about sex here because the DFO is embarrassed that women of my age have sex."
ok we'll talk about fucking then.
women your age better have sex or men my age are in real trouble
Your money's no good at my bar, pigboy.
Deacon Blues | 11.01.08 - 6:15 pm | #
frosty beverages.... the best
I'm hoping Obama wins even before the west coast closes.
we have 50 people at a phone bank in SOCAL calling NC this AM and now IA.
be the change you want to see.
try a phone bank or neighbor to neighbor.
you can play, eat, see your pal friend on wednesday.
You know, there just isn't enough Hardball on TV.
I'm hoping Obama wins even before the west coast closes.
Gilly Gonzylon
It could happen, but I hope not. I predict the networks call it for Team Blue at 8:01PM after California voting ends and Team Blue puts another 55 points on the board.
atrios hates you and posted again.
We can't talk about sex here because the DFO is embarrassed that women of my age have sex.
Ask him what age we're supposed to give it up.
Then ask him if it's ok if Michele and Barack Do It
peterboy
Very cool.
ms fahrenheit/camelot: I'm sorry you had to deal with a racist.
Living my whole life in KY and TN, it's surely not the first, or last time.
I politely thanked the idiot, disconnected, and made a note of it in the call comments before I submitted it.
.
Earthquakes in TX yesterday?
I missed that in the news...
Garrison Keillor hammering on Todd Palin musically, as we speak.
I am so lucky that I didn't go out for a walk. I'd be stuck in a Starbucks or soaked to the bone right now.
Double Feature Time: "Forbidden Planet" coming up on TCM.
And after that, "A Face In The Crowd" - which I HIGHLY recommend to dem who ain't seen it. Couldn't be more apropos to this election if it tried...
being silent and keeping powder dry hasn't worked for us at all, imho. it's time to adopt a winning strategy. it worked for the fundies, so it can work for us. and we're smarter.
chicago dyke, rake
Obama's approach is the winning strategy we've been waiting for. Just you watch. What we need to do is create a real, lasting change in the attitudes of the public. That, IMOHO, does not come from having show trials or calling members of your own party Vichy bitches. It comes from giving people who were in the wrong a face-saving opportunity to come back to the right.
"atrios hates you and posted again."
everyone hates me. I'm used to it
for those who care
SheEtS
At the Halloween bash last night, the chant of O-ba-MA! was heard everywhere.
And no, I'm not talking about Republican politicians. They can all kiss my ass. I'm talking about voters.
Blodge
How dare you say I hate you!!!!
"How dare you say I hate you!!!!"
It was a literary device designed to offer a counterpoint to the coming chapter
How dare you use literary devices against me!
"How dare you use literary devices against me!"
(insert smartass comment here)
being silent and keeping powder dry hasn't worked for us at all, imho. it's time to adopt a winning strategy. it worked for the fundies, so it can work for us. and we're smarter.
chicago dyke, rake
Screaming "we're fucked" and "they're dead to me" has not worked that well either.
OK, I got email from a certain princess of the law, who is known by three initials, asking for my guess re: the EV.
After some thought and some bonding with Nate's site, I think the following.
I think MO and IN go Red, FL and VA go Blue, OH Blue, PA Blue. (This wrecks MO's always going with the winner. Tough.) I think NC goes Blue, but that's a stretch.
Team Blue: 353; Team Red: 185.
Referring to the map at Electoral-Vote.com, if Obama wins all the dark blue states, he then only needs 6 more electoral votes to win the election. For example, all the dark blue states plus:
Virginia
... OR
Colorado
... OR
Ohio
... OR
Nevada combined with any other single state.
I'll take those odds. The big question in my mind now is whether the Pubs can win by a combination of suppression and cheating on the counts. No poll can quantify that possibility.
Maybe my B Ed. in Math from the Univ of Wisconsin is failing me, but if that is the list of "battlegrounds", then the battle has already been decided.
McCain could win ALL of them and still would lose the White House.
That's some battle.
If those are the battlegrounds, then Obama's already the winner with Iowa and Virginia.
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