I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarahad


Gravatartnani


Gravatartalatha


Gravatarfour


Gravatarcinco!


Gravatardownstairs to bring everyone up...


Gravatarshaest


Gravatar"Crazy" Curt at it again!!


Gravatarwhile you do that i'll read the post


GravatarIt isn't what they do that's illegal that's the most appalling... it's what they do that's legal.

Putatively.


GravatarRalph Nader is on the rise.


Gravatar"arms sales to the Middle East"

I mean what the fuck else do you need to say?


Gravatarvisited Libya in March to discuss a possible military deal

so THAT'S why libya isn't a terrorist nation anymore.


GravatarRalph Nader is on the rise.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:43 am | #


And Leon's getting larger!!!!


GravatarRalph Nader is on the rise.
CityKid (Nader for Prez)


Well, it's almost time to pop him in the oven then.


Gravatarhttp://htaindex.cnt.org/map_tool
Fascinating interactive US map dealing with housing and transportation costs, that sort of wonkish stuff.  Some results entirely counter-intuitive.


GravatarNader is almost close to the half point threshold that will be rounded up to 1% in the polls!


GravatarVideo: Bush gets heckled at July 4th event

http://www.liveleak.com/view? i=d...=d63_1215257559


Gravatarheh. it's so nice to know our gov't is controlled by foreign gangsters.


GravatarAnd Leon's getting larger!!!!


OK, I'll bite. Who's Leon?


GravatarPersonally, I bath. Showering is for whores, convicts and assorted degenerates.


GravatarAnd Leon's getting larger!!!!


OK, I'll bite. Who's Leon?


Line from "Airplane".


GravatarIt's "bathe", actually.


GravatarYemen is a central front in the waronterra

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080...vCbHOMZnk1vaA8F


GravatarRalph Nader is on the rise.

The Union of the Snake...


GravatarSwiss friend of mine used to go camping in the Libyan desert to hunt for meteorites. Brought back some incredibly beautiful ones. (Of course on one of those trips he also brought back a really nasty GI parasite from some bad food he ate in Egypt.)


GravatarLine from "Airplane".


Shit, I thought I knew all of those.


GravatarWe've never really had equality under the law, the SCOTUS inscription aside.
plantsman


exactly why we have to keep fighting. it's a process. settling for "good enough" isn't good enough.

this black, gay woman asks: what's that? like "capitalism," i'd like to try it here.
chicago dyke, dogsitter | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:44 am | #


it would be cool, wouldn't it? if it helps any, some of us straight white men understand why it is important.


GravatarNader is almost close to the half point threshold that will be rounded up to 1% in the polls!
trifecta


Actually, CNN has Nader at 6 points which is 4 points up from a week ago. Gee, that's a no brainer - it must be because of all the money the RNC is giving to Nader.


GravatarRalph Nader is on the rise.

Yeast infection


GravatarRalph Nader is on the rise.

another enzite commercial? i hate those.


GravatarWhat must it be like to make professional choices throughout your life that, at best, are amoral and, at worst, immoral and evil? How does a person reconcile their impact on others with a view of themselves that does not leave them consumed with doubt and self hatred.


GravatarYeast infection


Tinactin will knock that shit out.

Works on athlete's foot, crotch rot, and 'gotcha' trools, too.


GravatarSome results entirely counter-intuitive.

interesting. although not unexpected to me at least. prime downtown real estate remains expensive. redlining is also another factor, for all we pretend it doesn't happen any more. i often note to family how "odd" it is that in my subdivision, all the 'people of color' in it live on two streets, mine included.


GravatarEarlier, you said he was up four points from two weeks ago, now you've cut that in half -- by tomorrow, he could be over 7%!


Gravatarit must be because of all the money the RNC is giving to Nader.
CityKid (Nader for Prez)


the rnc is rooting for obama. i'm hoping they will regret it.


GravatarHe likes clearing brush. I'd give him the job of removing cholla cactus.

http://thumbsnap.com/v/UNujMxO5.jpg


Doug, the only problem with your picture is that it doesn't convey how much pain there is involved in pulling those spines out....

Of course, I've not seen one that does, but to have Shrub pulling them it would be nice to show how much fun he'd be having.


GravatarWhat must it be like to make professional choices throughout your life that, at best, are amoral and, at worst, immoral and evil?

profitable.


GravatarOne of Weldin's neices is a friend of a friend in Wilmington. She was very defensive of him riiiiight to the end. Ethics isn't practiced by osmosis, it should be firm law that excludes any lobbying jobs by former pols for at least five years out.


GravatarHow does a person reconcile their impact on others with a view of themselves that does not leave them consumed with doubt and self hatred.
Shared Humanity |


millions of dollars in the bank, plenty of hookers and blow, and a cadre of like minded evil people as friends and coworkers probably helps.


GravatarYet another outrage.

WASHINGTON - Dying of cancer, Thomas Amschwand did everything he was told to make sure his wife would collect on the life insurance policy he had through his employer.

"He was obsessed with dotting every `i' and crossing every `t'," Melissa Amschwand-Bellinger recalled about her husband, who died in 2001 at age 30.

But Spherion Corp., the temporary staffing company where Amschwand worked, told Amschwand-Bellinger she would not receive any of the $426,000 in benefits she believed she was due. When she went to court, Spherion succeeded in getting her lawsuit thrown out. The Supreme Court on June 27 refused to review the case.

Amschwand-Bellinger received a refund of the few thousand dollars in insurance premiums she and her husband dutifully had paid. The total, she said, would not cover the costs of his funeral.

The story has played out often under the federal Employee Retirement Income Security Act. Designed to protect employee benefits, the law has been used by employers as a shield against suits.

Federal appeals courts, interpreting Supreme Court decisions dating to 1993, consistently have said companies that offer health, life and retirement benefits under ERISA cannot be sued for large amounts of money, or damages. Instead, they can be sued only for typically smaller sums such as Amschwand's insurance premiums.


GravatarWhat must it be like to make professional choices throughout your life that, at best, are amoral and, at worst, immoral and evil? How does a person reconcile their impact on others with a view of themselves that does not leave them consumed with doubt and self hatred.
Shared Humanity


They have very well-defended egos and little sense of shame. I've worked for people like this.


GravatarHe likes clearing brush. I'd give him the job of removing cholla cactus.

the celebrated jumping cactus of pima county. had one go right through my hiking boot one time - thought i'd been bitten by a rattler.


Gravatarprofitable.
dirk gently
*

simple answers.
I have to go paint ceilings myself. laterzzzz.


GravatarNader at 6%? I doubt it, but still -- only about 40 percentage points to go -- maybe only 35 with Barr also in the race -- and 271 electoral votes and Nader can find himself the first elected lame duck president in US history, supported by no party in the Congress. You go, Ralph!


Gravatarsigh, bev of choice to dirk. damn i'm getting old and slow.


Gravatar
Shit, I thought I knew all of those.
billy b | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:47 am | #


Said by the late great Stephen Stucker, toward the end. In the tower as they're waiting for the plane to crash....


Gravatar
the rnc is rooting for obama. i'm hoping they will regret it.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Right - he'll prove them wrong with his support for "faith based initiatives." Wheeeooo. And then he'll clobber them with his support for FISA. If that does not work, he'll back Israel when they bomb Iran. Yes indeed, winning is, well priceless.


Gravatarbreath taking combination of greed and heedlessness.


GravatarMaricopa County, just west of Piestewa Peak, had quite a bit of cholla cactus in my youth.


Gravataris it just me, or is anyone else having trouble accessing FireDogLake?


GravatarAmschwand-Bellinger received a refund of the few thousand dollars in insurance premiums she and her husband dutifully had paid. The total, she said, would not cover the costs of his funeral.

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait ... so, if an insurance company doesn't want to pay a claim, all it has to do is refund the PREMIUMS?

i have one question. how do i start an insurance company?


GravatarIt is on days like this when some people on this blog start spouting incredibly hurtful and stupid shit that I really wonder why it is that I hang around here.

People, who should know better, suddenly become these terrible, spiteful creatures who hate with elan and really and truly would like to see the thousands of people who are depending on the auto companies for their jobs, pensions, and health care do without: that is what you are talking about, you know?

(And most of these people, btw, are good Democratic voters - but that doesn't matter to you, because YOU know better. You have all of the answers!)

I just wish that people would think before they post and reason before they start cheering about the misery they are calling for so forcefully.

I am pretty sure that if they faced the loss of their jobs, pensions, and health insurance and all that entails: they would not be so cavalier about it.

But what do I know?

Go ahead, cheer on. After all, another 1,000,000 good paying jobs with benefits are EASY to come by.


GravatarWay late on this repost...
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 07.05.08 - 10:40 am

Insurance Companies: "Given the history of medical issues across generations in this family, we are compelled to deny coverage to any of their descendants for the next six generations. At that time, we will review their health status for proof of insurability. We wish them well in battling their numerous maladies."


Gravatardoesn't seem to load for me, D2.


Gravatarsigh, bev of choice to dirk. damn i'm getting old and slow.


Getting old and slow is no big deal. You just stay smart and sassy, and everything else falls in line.


GravatarSaid by the late great Stephen Stucker, toward the end. In the tower as they're waiting for the plane to crash....


Now I remember. Cat was one of the funniest in that movie. And that's saying something.


Gravatardamn i'm getting old and slow.
chicago dyke, dope-free


i have found that one word responses keep me flush in fizzies.


GravatarIt's like an entire national party full of Ed Wilsons.


GravatarFrom previous thread:

I do think we ought to slam Obama for slinking to the center. That is our job. His job is to win and to take the country back.
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:42 am | #


He is not slinking to the center. He started off mostly center-right and has been slinking further right ever since.


GravatarMore details

Spherion's decision to deny benefits to Amschwand-Bellinger turned on an odd set of facts. Spherion, which employs about 300,000 people, switched insurers after Thomas Amschwand was diagnosed with a rare form of heart cancer. The new policy did not take effect until an employee worked one full day. Spherion never informed Amschwand of the requirement.

Amschwand asked repeatedly whether there was anything else he needed to do and was told no. He asked that the new policy be sent to him. Spherion never did so.

He died without returning to work. His widow said he easily could have worked a day if that was what it took to activate the new policy. Spherion could have waived the one-day-of-work provision, as it did for other employees but not for Amschwand.

Spherion spokesman Kip Havel issued a brief statement when contacted by The Associated Press after the high court declined to review the case. "We are pleased the court has made its decision and the matter has finally been resolved," Havel said.

Part 2
The court also recently turned down an appeal from Louis Gerard "Gerry" Goeres, who sued Charles M. Schwab & Co. over hundreds of thousands of dollars in retirement plan benefits.

For 16 months, Schwab mistakenly refused to acknowledge Goeres as the beneficiary in the retirement plan of his domestic partner, Stephen Ward, a Schwab employee who died in 1999. By the time Schwab acknowledged its error, the value of the account had declined by more than $500,000. Goeres sued for the rest. Federal courts dismissed the suit. "Unfortunately, legal relief is not available," U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer said in ruling against Goeres.

"You know the Schwab commercial, `Talk to Chuck?'" Goeres said. "I thought if Chuck knew this, he'd say, 'Oh my God, this is so wrong.' I live on naive dreams."

Schwab said in court papers that Goeres could have taken legal action soon after Ward's death, when he first was told he was not the beneficiary.


GravatarSo Crazy Curt took time away from his search for terrorists in supermarkets in order to arm terrorists in other countries.

Noice.


GravatarYes indeed, winning is, well priceless.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:53 am | #


losing is worse, when the stakes are high.

one step to the left. take a breath, get a grip. another step to the left.

it's a long game.


Gravatari have one question. how do i start an insurance company?
dirk gently,


indeed. how about a grassroots nonprofit dem health insurance coop? i don't expect our leaderz to lead; they mostly are millionaires and have plenty of coverage.


GravatarBut what do I know?

Go ahead, cheer on. After all, another 1,000,000 good paying jobs with benefits are EASY to come by.
DWD - S☮S | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:55 am | #



This must be a response to earlier thread. Whose cheering what?


GravatarVulture investment groups are coming together to buy foreclosed properties when the price drops low enough.

Some of the banks are so busy and overwhelmed that they are just writing things off like houses in Detroit being sold for $3,000 each.

These investment firms do zero rehab, just list the places for $25,000 and sell them.


GravatarGWPDA I noticed that though that affordability map did not cover all regions, you could drag it around with the mouse and see the affordability of outlying areas of what it did cover.


GravatarHe is not slinking to the center. He started off mostly center-right and has been slinking further right ever since.
Avedon | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:57 am | #


Bingo.


Gravatari have found that one word responses keep me flush in fizzies.
dirk


of which lots of people here are fond of pointing out i am incapable.


Gravatar"Unfortunately, legal relief is not available," U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer said in ruling against Goeres.

iirc SCOTUS justice's brother?


GravatarWe arm the woorrrllddd!


GravatarTotally OT, but why do I have a feeling that Billy Joel is laughing up his ass over this whole Christie Brinkley divorce thing?


GravatarVulture investment groups are coming together to buy foreclosed properties when the price drops low enough.


This is what I'm waiting for. If, that is, my business can stay afloat 'till then.


Gravatar"Unfortunately, legal relief is not available, because you're a queer and don't count."


/fyt.


Gravatariirc SCOTUS justice's brother?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮


Try not to use the word "justice" in the same sentence as SCOTUS.


Gravatarhang in there, smalfish! you know we've got your back.


GravatarTotally OT, but why do I have a feeling that Billy Joel is laughing up his ass over this whole Christie Brinkley divorce thing?
steve hüssein® simels


Why?


Gravatarhow do i start an insurance company?
dirk gently, sociopathetic



Let's have lunch, and bring your soul.


GravatarDWD, do you know why Bush's support finally collapsed? It was precisely because of all that misery. Historically, the media only become critical of presidents when the economy tanks. War crimes, shitting on the constitution, corruption, nobody gives a rat's ass. Economic hardship is the only thing that rouses mass opinion. So all this pain is a salutary thing. Think of it like a boil coming to a head, ready to pop in an arcing jet of viscid pus.


GravatarIt's Billy Joel's daughter Alexa Ray that Cook was so mean to.


GravatarI think DWD is grumbling about our attitude towards GM and Ford, and their business failures effects on Michigan poverty.

DWD, we are not the ones who are causing this collapse. It took decades of management fuckups to cause this.


GravatarOkay, sorry for the blogwhores, but there's an amusing new Listomania up at the home page.

And at Box Office, I take several cheap shots at Joe Don Baker's slobbiest performance, while paying hommage to the greatest revenge movies ever made!
http://boxoffice.com/blogs/steve...istomania- 1.php

Oh -- like it would kill you to go over and leave a comment already?


GravatarHe is not slinking to the center. He started off mostly center-right and has been slinking further right ever since.
Avedon | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:57 am | #


other than fisa, i really don't think he's changed at all. but he will.


Gravatar"Unfortunately, legal relief is not available, because you're a queer and don't count."
/fyt.
plantsman


Greed supersedes issues of sex. They would have done the same for a heterosexual.


GravatarHe is not slinking to the center. He started off mostly center-right and has been slinking further right ever since.
Avedon
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well, point taken, he is a DLCer after all. I was a Dodd fan and then Edwards and lastly Obama. The choice we got after the MSM debate process left us with two choices of centrist pols.
I still maintain that Obama's better able to win for the DEMs and shit, we gotta start somewhere. We already know how Clinton's NAFTA and China' WTO efforts fucked us over. Will Obama be as stupid? Certainly better than BushIIIMcCain.


GravatarOh -- like it would kill you to go over and leave a comment already?
steve hüssein® simels


i have never been able to successfully post a comment on your site. sorry dude.


GravatarHey kids - it's 1971 on the 10@10 marathon!


GravatarThat is just so wrong about Spherion. How can it be legal to pay for insurance and then, when you need the insurance, you just get the premiums back? So if i get cancer, my insurance can say: "Good luck with that. Here are you payments back."

You know, someone knicked my car the other day--wasn't a big deal, really, just on the bumper and I could get it out. But the guy acted like it was nothing. (It was for him. HIs car was a piece of shit.) I thought to myself how we have come to a place where we care so little about how we treated other people, how money is so much more important than kindness.


GravatarHe is not slinking to the center. He started off mostly center-right and has been slinking further right ever since.
Avedon


preach it sister


GravatarPiper Laurie's performance in Carrie is one of the best EVAH!


Gravatarlosing is worse, when the stakes are high.

one step to the left. take a breath, get a grip. another step to the left.

it's a long game.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Yup, and I'll go for the Constitution and weather the taunts of those who might call me an idealist. Given what's happening to the economy and the general disdain the public is developing for corporations, it might not matter who gets elected. What will mater is how flexible the folks in charge are. Theodore Lowi wrote an interesting book called THE POLITICS OF DISORDER in which he outlines the qualities of leadership in times of calm and in times of disorder and rebellion. Probably beyond most of you who are blindly following the mainstream, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.


GravatarLet's have lunch, and bring your soul.
Satan |


fine, i'm not using it. pizza ok?


GravatarI think DWD is grumbling about our attitude towards GM and Ford, and their business failures effects on Michigan poverty.

A serious cut in the defense budget would really fuck up California (for one).

So I should be pro-defense-budget?


GravatarGood screaming match btw the Williams sisters.


Gravatar
Why?
Cookie Fleck `08 | 07.05.08 - 11:02 am | #


Schadenfreude, or how ever its spelled.


Gravatarof which lots of people here are fond of pointing out i am incapable.

You are not a woman of few words.


Gravatarthey are just throwing down at open left these days, bless em.


GravatarProbably beyond most of you who are blindly following the mainstream, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:06 am | #


see, up until then, you were doing fine. and then you had to go and ruin it.


GravatarVenus wins!!!


GravatarRest In Peace.
Kodiac, "Kody"
Deceased July 3, 2008
http://thumbsnap.com/v/DpeySqdW.jpg


GravatarSchadenfreude, or how ever its spelled.

Danke shoen?


GravatarThat's exactly how it's spelled.



"Uptown Girl!"


Gravatarindeed. how about a grassroots nonprofit dem health insurance coop? i don't expect our leaderz to lead; they mostly are millionaires and have plenty of coverage.
chicago dyke, dope-free

Dayum. This is change I can believe in!


GravatarGreed supersedes issues of sex. They would have done the same for a heterosexual.
Gimlet | 07.05.08 - 11:04 am | #


nope. a hetero couple would have been married, so the question wouldn't have come up.


GravatarSchadenfreude, or how ever its spelled.
steve hüssein® simels


Well, their marriage broke up bc of Joel's drinking and infidelities, but they've managed to stay good friends. Also, his current wife looks creepily like a combination of Christie Brinkley and his daughter.


GravatarWait!

Billy Joel named his daughter after a boat?


GravatarKodiac, "Kody"

Another good one takes a romp in the Great Meadow in the Sky.

The Schnossage tree is by the creek, Kody!


Gravatar
see, up until then, you were doing fine. and then you had to go and ruin it.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


We aim to please - I wouldn't want to disappoint anyone by jumping out of character.


GravatarProbably beyond most of you....


Just a bunch of stump jumpers here...


GravatarRIP, Kody; enjoy the Summerlands.


GravatarRest In Peace.
Kodiac, "Kody"
*
blessed poochie-sweet :-(


Gravatar serious cut in the defense budget would really fuck up California (for one).

i believe this is a false choice. simply, instead of building things that kill, let's get all those tech companies involved in projects to save the environment and alternative fuel and suchlike. we can afford progressive programs, we just need to get rid of the finance system that prevents progressive pols from taking office. or have the Revolution, your call.


GravatarProbably beyond most of you who are blindly following the mainstream, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:06 am | #


What are you, like twelve years old?

Spare us the adolescent self-righteousness.


GravatarDoug | 07.05.08 - 11:08 am

Awww, Doug, sorry doesn't cut it...

Bless his furry paws as he heads for the Rainbow Bridge.


Gravatarit might not matter who gets elected. What will mater is how flexible the folks in charge are.

but that's just the point. if mccain wins, which he can't he will be in perfect position to fight off any progressive movements from the left. if obama wins, he won't. simple politics there. and the bigger the perceived victory on the left, the harder it will be for obama. plus, the more riled up the left base gets, the more left leaning senators, reps, govs, and local politicians will get elected to put on those pressures.

it isn't just about obama, it's about a tide. and the bigger the tide, the more powerful it will be. the nader trickle may go directly to the sea, but in the end it just reduces the force of the flood.


GravatarThere's not a dime's worth of difference between Ralph Nader and a delusional narcissist.


Gravatari believe this is a false choice.

Well, it was a rhetorical question...


GravatarOne last kiss on the nose, Kody, then you go to where the ball toss never ends.

Sorry for you loss, Doug.


Gravatari believe this is a false choice. simply, instead of building things that kill, let's get all those tech companies involved in projects to save the environment and alternative fuel and suchlike. we can afford progressive programs, we just need to get rid of the finance system that prevents progressive pols from taking office. or have the Revolution, your call.

Wise words. Thank you.


Gravatarwe just need to get rid of the finance system that prevents progressive pols from taking office. or have the Revolution, your call.
chicago dyke, dope-free | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:11 am | #


And smash the media conglomerates, who at this point are the biggest obstacles to democratic change.

The Revolution ain't going to happen, however. No matter how romantically fixated our friend NTodd is on manning the barricades.


Gravatari believe this is a false choice. simply, instead of building things that kill, let's get all those tech companies involved in projects to save the environment and alternative fuel and suchlike.

i bet you are short.


GravatarWhat are you, like twelve years old?

Spare us the adolescent self-righteousness.
steve hüssein® simels


I wish - but I appreciate your low handed tactics - you're 14 right?


Gravatarpizza ok?

I'd prefer fresh entrails of congresscritter, but whatever.

Health, life or casualty? I have a backsliding scale.


GravatarHey Noblejoanie!

Were you thinking about walking over to the La Fete du Marquette next Sunday?

I'm trying to corral a mini-meetup of WiscEschaconers later in the afternoon!


GravatarI wish - but I appreciate your low handed tactics - you're 14 right?
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:14 am | #


If that made even a lick of sense, I might actually be offended.


GravatarWell, it was a rhetorical question...
dave™©


for you, of course. but for too many of our pols it is not. smart people keep telling me that the real reason nanci and hairy won't end the war is just that; too many dem districts just barely holding on economically, and with war related monies at that.


...do you have a sister?


GravatarShe's tall, said so earlier after running to the mail truck.


GravatarIf that made even a lick of sense, I might actually be offended.




GravatarWe aim to please - I wouldn't want to disappoint anyone by jumping out of character.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:09 am | #


yeah, but the trick is to break it up. keep the snark out of any serious arguments (if indeed you have any), there's always an opportunity to throw one in later.

you might try a pun or two as well. people seem to like them.


Gravatar...do you have a sister?
chicago dyke, dope-free


is that a rhetorical question too?


GravatarMilitary procurement is the least economical way to employ people.


GravatarNo difference between Bush and Gore. Nope, none whatsoever.

Nader worship is a sign of immaturity.

There is a very strong chance that 6 of the 9 Supreme Court justices will die or retire in the next 8 years.

This is a generational election when it comes to the court. Whomever picks the justices will have their imprint on the court for the next 20-30 years. The circuit courts are 100-67 Republican already. Some of those 67 democrats are aging Carter appointees.

A Nader self righteous wankathon was horrific in 2000 considering what happened after that. In 2008, it is near criminal to vote for the guy whose narcissism knows no bounds.


Gravatar...do you have a sister?

Two!


GravatarShe's tall, said so earlier after running to the mail truck.
plantsman | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:15 am | #


ah. i thought she might be related to dennis.


GravatarCityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:06 am

You should change your name to Veruca Salt. It would be more accurate.

Grow up.


GravatarYes indeed, winning is, well priceless.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 10:53 am | #

Losing is, well, Nader!


Gravatari bet you are short.
dirk gently,


record holder at three schools for jumping, captian of the second squad/middle hitter for UM volleyball, company baton champ in the marine corps, former pole dancer extraordinare. um, no.


GravatarI always tear up when Venus talks about being a "big sister" because it's one of my most important roles, too!


GravatarMorning, Moonbats!


GravatarHealth, life or casualty? I have a backsliding scale.
Satan | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:14 am | #


life, i think. harder for the claimants to put up a fuss.


Gravatarcompany baton champ in the marine corps, former pole dancer extraordinare.

So the company baton thing gets me more sweaty than the pole dancing thing.

Is there something wrong with me?


Gravatardope-free

What the hell?


Gravatarheh. Just last week Bootsy was talking about how people were starting to like him again.

Bush Jeered at Monticello

No sooner had Bush started speaking at the naturalization ceremony welcoming new American citizens than protesters began shouting at him, calling him a “war criminal.” The President paused in his remarks and then responded, “To my fellow citizens, we believe in free speech in the United States of America.” One woman moved towards the stage before being stopped by security, but other protesters still made their voices heard. Only minutes later, another protester shouted expletives at the President, while still another called Bush “a fascist”. By the time Bush finished his 10-minute remarks, at least nine protesters had been escorted out of the event by law enforcement. Protesters also lined the President’s motorcade route, chanting “Arrest Bush” as he drove to and from the Monticello ceremony.


GravatarMorning, Moonbats!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:18 am |


Back at ya, babe.


Gravataris that a rhetorical question too?
dirk


well, he seems pretty comfy in his str8 male orientation, so a sex change seemed right out.


GravatarGood morning, friends.


GravatarYou lack a gal out of uniform -- it's just a fetish.


GravatarHeya Hecate and Terry C.!


GravatarA,

Did you see this morning's WaPo?

Taking a new approach to parking, by building less and charging more, is a central tenet of the new urbanism that has gripped planners and developers in suburbs and cities across the country.

The planners said that parking, especially free parking, encourages people to drive. Cars allow for development sprawl, highway congestion and air pollution. The parking lots coat the ground with impervious asphalt that sends dirty runoff into rivers and streams. And, the planners said, parking is often ugly and creates spaces that discourage walking or the use of a transit system.

"If there's a free parking space, you're irrational if you don't drive," said Cheryl Cort, policy director of the Coalition for Smarter Growth, based in Washington.

Reducing the supply of parking is one way to change people's habits and patterns of development, Cort and others said. Other crucial pieces include a grid of streets, a mix of uses, and transit, which is why Tysons boosters have been pushing so hard for a Metrorail extension through the area. A decision about a rail extension, which would stretch to Dulles International Airport and into Loudoun County, is expected from federal regulators this year.

If more people ride Metro, fewer people will drive, which means less traffic, pollution and runoff. It also means less demand for parking. That, in turn, opens up a world of development possibilities: narrow streets with sidewalk cafes; intimate storefronts; tall office and condominium towers where workers and residents can walk to lunch, to a dry cleaners or to a Metro station.


GravatarMilitary procurement is the least economical way to employ people.

If you can stomach making the product, it's one of the most profitable for entrepreneurs.


GravatarHey kids - it's Skeezix the Patriotic Cat!

God Bless This Great Land of Ours!!!


Gravatar(like) heh.


GravatarProtesters also lined the President’s motorcade route, chanting “Arrest Bush” as he drove to and from the Monticello ceremony.
billy b | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:19 am | #


Good!!!!!


GravatarHi Hecate, Terry C.


GravatarIn 2008, it is near criminal to vote for the guy whose narcissism knows no bounds.
trifecta


Or some mind boggling dumb.


GravatarWhat the hell?
Moe Szyslak


just whining about how Dry it is here right now.


Gravatarhe seems pretty comfy in his str8 male orientation, so a sex change seemed right out.

What, you've never heard of role playing?


Gravatarsteve,

New gravatar!


GravatarProtesters also lined the President’s motorcade route, chanting “Arrest Bush” as he drove to and from the Monticello ceremony.

A rousing chorus of "Bush Eats Shit!" would be nice, too...


GravatarRalph Nader is on the rise.
CityKid (Nader for Prez)



As is your dick whenever his name is mentioned?

Dumbass, please!


GravatarA Nader self righteous wankathon was horrific in 2000 considering what happened after that.

nadar had nothing to do with 2000. the fix was in without him. he was just one more excuse, one more tool to use against liberals.

there was really nothing wrong with voting for the ideals in nadar's platform, whatever one might think of the man himself. in 2000. it was a statement.

but the time for that is past, and should have been done more in the primaries with dennis. obama WILL be the next president. we should be working on getting him pulled left so that it's clear when he wins that is why - voting against mccain isn't enough.

ok, flame on. or just let it lie.


Gravatar [I wish - but I appreciate your low handed tactics - you're 14 right?
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:14 am | #]

If that made even a lick of sense, I might actually be offended.
steve hüssein® simels


and so the question is which of us is the fool?


GravatarHey kids - it's Skeezix the Patriotic Cat!

that's just wrong. someone isn't going to cross over the Rainbow Bridge for that.


Gravatarsidrah!


Gravatarsteve,

New gravatar!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:22 am | #


Actually, I changed it to another more flattering one yesterday, but it hasn't come up yet.

Anybody know how long it takes for gravatar to process that?


GravatarComment by CityKid (FOREVER YOUNG) blocked.

Awww, it didn't work.

Keep trying, motherfucker.


GravatarI'll bet Cindy McCain wants Skeerix's glasses.


GravatarIf any Nader supporter could ever explain to me how Nader would be supposed to govern with no party majority in either the House or the Senate -- or in any state governorship or legislature or even any mayors that he might use to influence policy decisions, then I might be more impressed.


GravatarWell you know Lil Boots was in a snit all the way back to DC. It's prescreened crowds or nothing from here on in. I like to think that one of those protestors was a ghostly old gent with his hair in a ponytail.


Gravatari get too sentimental when i watch those Where the Hell is Matt videos with everyone dancing--well, not sure if dancing is the right word--with him. makes the world seem so very small.


Gravatar
and so the question is which of us is the fool?
CityKid (FOREVER YOUNG) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:22 am | #


I'm guessing the new guy around here who thinks he's ingratiating himself by calling everybody else an asshole.


GravatarWhew. You know how it when an old buddy goes off and finds Jesus? I thought it was like that.


GravatarMilitary procurement is the least economical way to employ people.

If you can stomach making the product, it's one of the most profitable for entrepreneurs.
Doug

In the short run...

But China and India are pouring billions (literally) into new concrete roads and rail lines. They will have "NEW" infrastructure for the next two decades.

By contrast, the US of Eh is coaxing borrowed time out of its roads, bridges, sewers, levees, rail corridors, and electrical grid.

We're gonna be playing catch-up for the next 50 years...IF we're lucky.


GravatarI'm guessing the new guy around here who thinks he's ingratiating himself by calling everybody else an asshole.
steve hüssein® simels |


yeah, that's my job.


Gravatardirk, i dunno. i tend to agree that the fix was in, but for me, naydarr revealed himself when he took money from republicans. i have a hard time, now, believing he was ever on 'our' side, and instead think him one big ego case, like most national level political figures. it's all about him.


GravatarCan you get around the killfile by putting your entire comment in the homepage box?


GravatarWere you thinking about walking over to the La Fete du Marquette next Sunday?

I'm trying to corral a mini-meetup of WiscEschaconers later in the afternoon!
Roadmaster,


Would love to meet up. Let me know the deets: noblejoanie at gmail


GravatarCityKid knows Barry pretty well -- same neck of the woods and all.


GravatarI'm guessing the new guy around here who thinks he's ingratiating himself by calling everybody else an asshole.

Sadly, it's not "new." It just surfaced again.


GravatarComment by CityKid (FOREVER DUMB) | blocked.

Ha!


GravatarI'm guessing the new guy around here who thinks he's ingratiating himself by calling everybody else an asshole.


The trool ain't new. It shows up from time to time to play 'gotcha'.


GravatarAnybody know how long it takes for gravatar to process that?
steve hüssein® simels | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:23 am | #


the site says 5-10 mins, but my last change took a few hours. maybe it's slow b/c of the holiday, who knows.


Gravataryeah, that's my job.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:25 am | #




Gravatarkristof said that china could do the most good in darfur by cutting off arms sales, etc.


GravatarCityKid = fy = LVOD


GravatarAmid a dispute with the staff of one of his flagship publications in 1984 over its editorial content and a bid by staff members to form a union, Nader responded with the same kind of tactics that he has elsewhere condemned: He fired the staff, changed the locks at the office, unsuccessfully tried to have one employee arrested, and hired permanent replacements.

When the fired workers appealed the action to federal authorities, Nader filed a countersuit. Applying a legal tactic that employers commonly use to resist union-organizing efforts, Nader claimed that the fired workers were trying to appropriate his business. Nader spurned efforts by other progressives to mediate the fight, and he refused an offer to settle the litigation by simply signing a declaration that his workers thenceforth would have the right to organize.


GravatarCityKid-

Thanks. You've convinced me. I'm voting Obama.


Gravatarno worries, moe. mary j is going to be a friend of mine until the day i die. i just wish she weren't such a fickle date.

dirk, lol. you and me both, honey.


Gravatarkristof said that china could do the most good in darfur by cutting off arms sales, etc.
mogwai | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:27 am | #


Interestingly, he said that while investigating the appalling conditions at a Beijing brothel.


GravatarI'm guessing the new guy around here who thinks he's ingratiating himself by calling everybody else an asshole.

[cough] elias [cough]


Gravatarkristof said that china could do the most good in darfur by cutting off arms sales, etc.

Gee, what a novel idea. Not give weapons to evil people. I wonder, how many fighters have we sold to Saudi Arabia these last few years?


GravatarI need a new gravatar soon. This one is going out of style. Any suggestions?


Gravatarthe site says 5-10 mins, but my last change took a few hours. maybe it's slow b/c of the holiday, who knows.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:27 am | #


Ah...okay. Thanks!


GravatarI was pulling for Serena, but I was pretty sure Venus would win. Advantage Miss Williams.


GravatarAnybody know how long it takes for gravatar to process that?


If you have more than one email address, put the other one in the field, post, and then go back to the other addy.

I have two addresses I keep gravatars on, when I switch, the gravatar changes fairly quickly, usually within one post.


GravatarI need a new gravatar soon. This one is going out of style. Any suggestions?
trifecta


Turn it 180°?


GravatarIs the youngster's nose better?


Gravatartrifecta: baby pics are always welcome. and kittehz.


GravatarI'm guessing the new guy around here who thinks he's ingratiating himself by calling everybody else an asshole.
steve


Nah, he mostly comes around very early in the morning. His schtick hasn't changed in years. Ignore him, he'll eventually go away.


GravatarI need a new gravatar soon. This one is going out of style. Any suggestions?
trifecta | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:29 am | #


You can't go wrong with a Jack Kirby illo of the Thing.


GravatarKKKurt "I speak Russian y'know?" Weldon was a promoter of the Osprey death machine.


GravatarBy contrast, the US of Eh is coaxing borrowed time out of its roads, bridges, sewers, levees, rail corridors, and electrical grid.

We're gonna be playing catch-up for the next 50 years...IF we're lucky.


For that reason, my son has switched his major, from astro-physics/maths, to just maths/and civil engineering.
(he's still shooting for a double major degree)

He says employment prospects for an astro-physicist is not that good but that there always will be a need for people that know how to design and build things.

I'm sure he'll do fine.


GravatarWell, I'm glad you've got a forum where you can all slap yourselves on the back and bash anyone who thinks that Obama might sell us out. Many of you feign or rationalize some sort of interest in the issues at hand, but you can't seem to really grasp the implications of what's at hand on the presidential race. Bear in mind that Gore should have won, indeed I think he did - but then.... believe whatever lets you sleep.


Bye


Gravatarhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...honored- by.html

G. Herbert Bush honored by Kissinger


GravatarI need a new gravatar soon. This one is going out of style. Any suggestions?
trifecta


http://icanhascheezburger.files....p-toy- broke.jpg


GravatarTurn it 180°?

Now that is brilliant.


GravatarSaudi is buying British Arms these days.


GravatarCityKid = fy = LVOD
Moe Szyslak



And as fucking clueless as ever.

Into the killfile with it.


Gravatarbut for me, naydarr revealed himself when he took money from republicans. i have a hard time, now, believing he was ever on 'our' side, and instead think him one big ego case, like most national level political figures. it's all about him.
chicago dyke, dope-free | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:26 am | #


eh - the money from repubs didn't bother me that much. it did piss me off the way they gloated over it, but it was just a calculated game by the pugs, not an indication that they in any way supported him or that he was intentionally helping them.

in any case, a vote for nadar wasn't really, imho, a vote for nadar. it was a protest vote for ideals. if gore had gotten into office, large numbers for nadar's platform would have given him even more pull to the left - bush of course could just ignore it.

but this time around i agree with you. it's all about ralph. his candidacy serves no other purpose.


GravatarI need a new gravatar soon. This one is going out of style. Any suggestions?
trifecta

A silhouette of Iran?


Gravatar bash anyone who thinks that Obama might sell us out.

Oh, yeah, we're all just crazy about Obama around here. None of us every say a bad word about him.


GravatarIs there something wrong with me?
dave™© |

yes


GravatarIf you have more than one email address, put the other one in the field, post, and then go back to the other addy.

billy b | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:30 am | #



I'm in no particular hurry, I was just wondering. But thanks...


GravatarNo.
CityKid has been calling us assholes for quite some time now.


GravatarKKKurt "I speak Russian y'know?" Weldon was a promoter of the Osprey death machine.
Lime Rickey


and there are certain drinking establishments frequented by marines into which he should never, ever go, unless he wants to taste his own balls.


GravatarBear in mind that Gore should have won, indeed I think he did

I don't think I've heard anyone mention that before.


GravatarI'm sure he'll do fine.
Doug

True, even if he's working for Siemens or Gamesa.


Gravatar"Defense Solutions, CEO Ringgold subsequently wrote to colleagues. "They have not spoken with any American company that can offer the quid pro quo that we can or that has the connections in Russia that we have," he boasted."

Nothing like free advertising.


GravatarI need a new gravatar soon. This one is going out of style. Any suggestions?
trifecta | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:29 am | #


you can borrow mine. wouldn't it be cool if, just for one day, every single gravatar called for impeachment in some way?


GravatarWhew. You know how it when an old buddy goes off and finds Jesus? I thought it was like that.
Moe Szyslak
*
heck, dope (hallucinogenics of all types) brings you BACK to Jesus.
The great de-atheistic = magic mushrooms (recently scientifically verified by Johns Hopkins thank you very much)


GravatarOh, yeah, we're all just crazy about Obama around here. None of us every say a bad word about him.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


i'm having his baby.


GravatarOh, yeah, we're all just crazy about Obama around here. None of us every say a bad word about him.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:32 am | #


Assuming he's not a concern troll, he's just surpassingly stupid.


GravatarBHO should invite the Williams sisters to a social function so he can congratulate them.


Gravatarnap time


GravatarThat's funny that a concern troll(?) is chiding us for not being aware of the dangers of Obama selling us down the river.

I think people here are very aware of the possibility, and are hoping, and writing letters to Obama campaign also, so that Obama won't.


GravatarDoug, so sorry about Kody.


GravatarNothing like a Nader troll to make me feel less disgusted with voting for Obama.

I dare Nader to get elected dog catcher.
-


GravatarI noticed that though that affordability map did not cover all regions

Didn't cover any part of NM, but that wasn't my thought.  I pulled it way in to cover North Central Phoenix - and it reported that the majority of property went for under $1000/month, and a fair amount more for under $600.  I suppose this may be accurate - but only if the vast majority of the properties there are on the 25th year of a 30 year mortgage or are paid off or some other off-kilter factor.  Either the stats are calculated on something not being shared or the mapping is out of whack.  Otherwise, it is an interesting visual.


Gravataryou can borrow mine. wouldn't it be cool if, just for one day, every single gravatar called for impeachment in some way?


I just picked up on that.

All I could make of it was 'I'm a peach', you living in Ga and all.

Should have known better.


GravatarCityKid = fy = LVOD
Moe Szyslak



And as fucking clueless as ever.

Into the killfile with it.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08


Like I said - back slapp'n. So much for a forum. I might as well be at a dem caucus - kinda disgusting really.


Gravatari'm having his baby.
dirk gently


What a wonderful way to say how much you love him!


GravatarI've been reading the comments at Greenwald's place. It seems to me Obama is gonna make winning the WH far more difficult than it needs to be.

In the article where he called for no exceptions for mental health in late term abortions, he also said something about teaching children the "sacredness" of the sex act. I wonder if that applies to gay coupling as well.


Gravatar but you can't seem to really grasp the implications of what's at hand on the presidential race

i personally have no grasp on reality at all. i guess that's why you don't address any of the issues i've raised. they have nothing to do with the presidential race. all i care about is how tall the candidates are.


GravatarAll I could make of it was 'I'm a peach', you living in Ga and all.

that's because you never read my blog. there's a clearer version there.


Gravatarteaching children the "sacredness" of the sex act.

He's not only a Moslem and a scary black kind of xian, he's Wiccan, too! Who knew?


GravatarI'm so tired of googling myself and having that asshole come up...


GravatarLike I said - back slapp'n. So much for a forum. I might as well be at a dem caucus - kinda disgusting really.


Would you like some cheese with that whine?


Gravatarhe also said something about teaching children the "sacredness" of the sex act. I wonder if that applies to gay coupling as well

When it's good it's very good.


GravatarWhat a wonderful way to say how much you love him!
Gromit | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:36 am | #


i love this place.


Gravatarkinda disgusting really.
CityKid (Nader for Prez) | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:35 am | #

Yes, you are. Enjoy your irrelevance.


Gravatarthat's because you never read my blog. there's a clearer version there.


heh. No one ever reads my blog either.


GravatarAw, Doug.... 


GravatarI think Gore won.


GravatarIn the article where he called for no exceptions for mental health in late term abortions, he also said something about teaching children the "sacredness" of the sex act. I wonder if that applies to gay coupling as well.

Ay caramba.

Why is he going after the fringe of a fringe party?


Gravatar the "sacredness" of the sex act.

Eat this in remembrance of me.


GravatarWhen it's good it's very good.
Doug




Sorry about your companion. I'm sure he's happily digging up bones as we speak.


GravatarOh, yeah, we're all just crazy about Obama around here. None of us every say a bad word about him.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator



I'd drink his bath water.


GravatarHe's not only a Moslem and a scary black kind of xian, he's Wiccan, too! Who knew?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Walking the dog this morning, I was thinking that a mystery-suspense series based on a network of Wiccans working within the government would be very cool.


GravatarSorry 'bout Kody.


GravatarI think Gore won (Nothing like free advertising)


Gravatarcitykid IS Nader, same panting-for-attention egomaniac.


GravatarWhy is he going after the fringe of a fringe party?


His people need to sit his ass down and talk to him about running his mouth.


Gravatars
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GravatarBarry from AK insists CityKid is real.


GravatarNot something I'd do to self, but still kind of neat in a creepy way.

Some guy has tattooed himself to look like a zombie.

sample picture.
http://www.bizarremag.com/ images...ne_12993_12.jpg

the article.
http://www.bizarremag.com/weird_...zombie- boy.html
More pictures there.


GravatarBarry from AK insists CityKid is real.
plantsman | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:41 am | #

real what? stupid? stubborn? immature?


GravatarWhy is he going after the fringe of a fringe party?

That's what I really don't get. The fundies aren't going to vote for him; they're going to vote for McCain who's promised to appoint judges who will outlaw abortion. The notion that he's going to do outreach to these whackjobs to "bring them into the fold" is insane. Every time the Dems try to be Republican lite, lose, and then figure that well, next time, they'll run even FARTHER to the right.


Gravatarmoe sheets


GravatarEat this in remembrance of me.
Toonscribe


I, too, love this place.


GravatarSacredness.  Hunh.  (Seeing father of daughters ....)
Girls just want to have fun, Sir....


Gravatarto fuel the discussion, I think Gore won, if Nader had nailed himself a nail thru the foot. (He nailed himself a nail thru the foot?)


GravatarRiding the subway is fun.


GravatarDang, wrong comment box.


GravatarEat this in remembrance of me.
Toonscribe
*
heh, my funny bone thanks you...


GravatarIn 2008, it is near criminal to vote for the guy whose narcissism knows no bounds.
trifecta


Or some mind boggling dumb.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 11:21 am | #

When thinking of Nader supporters, I keep getting that image from Hancock in my head. You know, the one in the prison common area when he first goes in....


Gravatarreal what? stupid? stubborn? immature?
ronjazz


Just as real as you ronjazz. But both you and Billy strike me as the kind of political slime that rests in the bottom of the barrel. It's your way or the highway - issues be damned. I'd go on, but it would only provide fodder for your immature and, dare I say, adolecent male like remarks. Thanks plantsman, we've had 3 warm days here and my basil is going ballistic (finally).


Gravatarhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...uction- fat.html

Brigitte Nielsen will auction fat sucked off in TV show


GravatarThe people calling in to Journalist Roundtable on CSpan are more and more like the Munich beer halls of the thirties. Then it was about how great Hitler was, how terrible the Jews, the Poles, the Gypsies, the intelligentsia, and immigrants in general and the terrible people who hate this wonderful country which supports the whole world. Now it is the same with a few new names. There is no way to change the thinking of these bullit heads so what is next, the annihiliation of the terrible enemies (us)? Once again the bullit heads and the fascists rule. It is pretty scary how adept at stirring up the idiots these genetic slugs are.


GravatarWhy is he going after the fringe of a fringe party?
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Media Matters covered a SNAFU over what Obama meant when he was talking about his kids and pregnancy. I forget the details but I think that this stuff is probably just Obama trying to express Obama. Mebbe he should STFU...and get elected first.
And no, QL, he is clearly in support of gay rights but prolly won't advocate explicitly going there with kids. I don't either.
Sex ed in generic terms of respect and love for partner doesn't have to parse the shit down to porno.


GravatarIt is pretty scary how adept at stirring up the idiots these genetic slugs are.
warondandruff
*
yup, I half listened yesterday to some very wicked people freely being dickheads on C-SPAN's citizen roundtable. The moderator was pushing the question: what would it take for you to vote for McCain.


GravatarEvery time the Dems try to be Republican lite, lose, and then figure that well, next time, they'll run even FARTHER to the right.

If McCain somehow manages to win this thing, I can't be confident there will be a next time.


Gravatar"republicans are serious about national security"-cable news


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