I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
And more blowjobs!
It's just a baby!
Goodness knows we don't want to make education any easier for teenaged mothers.
Its his kid, anyway.
Teenaged mothers should be smacked upside the head repeatedly. With their babies. That'll teach 'em.
I think we should compromise. We should have child care at the school, but make the babies work, or at least go through an obstacle course before they get their diapers changed.
Take the pledge.
The best host for 'Meet the Press' would be Chris Hansen...
with each interview ending with another War Criminal led away in cuffs for questioning.
Start with Cheney.
Workhouses and scarlet letters for the young wenches!
Look buddy, we've upped our standards around here, now up yours.
Stay abstinent, stay "pure", but then get married and have 14 kids because, you know, children are sacred and we need more white ones to combat the brown hordes of immigrants.
Makes perfect sense.
Convert see-saws into little waterboarding training units. That'll teach 'em.
I hope someone interviews those "pregnancy pact" girls one year from now, to see how much they're enjoying themselves.
Having preggers in school is a very generous policy. The costs are quite high (RTFB) and the benefits are, at best, nebulous. I truly believe that the child is best served by a SAHM until the age of six, when both can attend school. This assumes a continuation of social services and oversight.
For those of us near 50 and more, the sight of a pregnant school child is disturbing. These 'failures' were removed from the classroom and set apart to prevent coypcats and to delineate consequences to behavior.
It is leniency to allow preggers in school. It is generosity to pay for their choice through much higher per pupil costs. It is a decision that should be debated with facts.
Punish them with high sticking!
And the homeless guy that fathered all their children.
Teen pregnancy should be abolished.
WTF is wrong with being generous with a child who has made a dreadful mistake that will affect them for the rest of their lives?
Off for a pastoral outing in the Vermont countryside today with Mrs G, my mom and a friend. I'm sure there will be a report on all the excitement tonight.
It is a decision that should be debated with facts.
Facts? We don't need no stinking facts!
What are these facts you speak of?
Good morning.
Cheney comes to town, raises six figures, and sticks a small suburb with a security cost they can't handle.
Have a good time, Gromit. Don't overexert those wounds.
Jesus. This was an issue when I was in high school. I graduated in 19fucking68. The minute the pregnancy showed the girls were kicked out. Fat lot of good that did everyone.
Nominate Obama! It's about time a real black man got a real high tech lynching.
WTF is wrong with being generous with a child who has made a dreadful mistake that will affect them for the rest of their lives?
Willendorf Venus | 06.21.08 - 8:57 am | #
Blessed are the mean in spirit
for theirs is the kingdom of repukes
Sheets.
Media literacy taught from a young age would help.
As it stands now, most tv/movies are periods of sex and violence, with a little more random violence thrown in for good. Plus the big explosion scene. And the ads for drugs and sugar. Plus maybe a wornout plot to give the ads a rest now and then.
Maybe you live in a district with high incomes and loads of cash. I don't. The median income is 12-14K for a family of four. This leaves few resources available for even the most rudimentary of schooling.
Per pupil (hypothetically) is $20.00 per day. Preggers run $80.00 per day. If you live in NYC, LA, or the tonier 'burbs...you can carry this cost. Not so in rural Whitest Whitesylvania. It isn't always the hate that drives the decision. Often it is the lack of funds. This is what is known as budgeting. I can't remove adequate education from all students because some have chosen to have babies.
The old school boards dumped preggers off the rolls because they didn't have the wealth to accomodate the special needs of pregnant teens. Same held true for the special education students. It is only with the addition of federal and state/commonwealth funds that many districts are able to add these programs.
Guess what Eve did wrong! If we make it impossible for these young women to complete their education it will teach them a lesson. Their children will suffer because they can't get decent jobs (provided, of course, that ANY of us end up having decent jobs) and of course we know that "welfare" is an evil as well.
Maybe there is some other planet where people think logically, but it sure isn't this one.
Making up cost figures of pregnant teenage girls to the school system is not, in fact, covering up your desire to punish them and their children for the rest of their lives for their perceived moral failings. Hint: stop calling them "preggers". It's not a word, it's an epithet, and it's not distinguishable from "slutty slut slut" when you say it.
How about alternative schooling at a separate facility during the pregnancy for the "Preggers (lol)" AND the fathers, if the father can be determined?
Seems to me it's just a fact that "pregnancy services" in the main school location and among the general student body inevitably normalizes teen mom-ism and generates copy catting.
Puritans!!!! Always wanting to punish little people for their indiscretions, but ask this jackass what should be done with a President who has caused the deaths of thousands for a lie.
But pregnant girls and teenaged mothers should be punished. What exactly would he suggest?
For those of us near 50 and more, the sight of a pregnant school child is disturbing. These 'failures' were removed from the classroom and set apart to prevent coypcats and to delineate consequences to behavior.
It is leniency to allow preggers in school. It is generosity to pay for their choice through much higher per pupil costs. It is a decision that should be debated with facts.
Mold
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Seems you're a "failure" in Christianity. But that's okay, you're not the only one. By the way, did you bring your stones to cast?
The schools have always been the front lines in the culture war.
Under God.
Quick! everyone off Mold's lawn!
(you know, Mold, schools had glass doors, open campuses and a lack of metal detectors back then too) (You ever wonder if maybe the thumb pressing down on the kids is leading to their shenanigans?) (your chastisement would have sounded better as praise, and before they were preggers it might have been relevant.)
The chance of any of these nitwit 14-year-olds growing up to be anything but a drain on society is nil, so why spend all the tax dollars coddling them?
Take their kids away and be done with them.
WTF do we have to condone aberrant behavior?
Few things work better for keeping mothers in poverty than a lack of childcare.
Oh, and mdh: since you referenced metal detectors in schools -- I don't think I'd consider kids bringing firearms to school (and shooting each other with them) "shenanigans."
It's Juno blowback!
NPR story yesterday. not anstinence sex ed, but sounded pretty BAD sex ed if fucking teens didn't understand WHY they were using condoms.
Well, it could be that the girls took one look at their options, realized that with the lack of good-paying jobs the "classic family" would not be possible for them, figured that the best time to have a child was when their own parents were still young and healthy enough to help raise them, and -- YEEHAAAAH! The unregulated capitalism and poor social services may be creating a new family unit.
this god damn story is on every god damn channel
One thing the haters forget is that the teen birth rate is substantially lower now than it was in the 1950s. The problem is that teenage/young adult males don't have access to jobs that will support a wife and child.
If people are squawking about high school girls with children, what about the fact that college becomes nearly impossible if you have a child. I remember reading somewhere that one of the easiest/biggest payback things you could do would be to provide free child care and social support for young mothers who want to go to college.
Abstinence Only sex education is one of those things that reads good in theory, but don't hold water in practice. Not when adolescents have been bombarded from birth with a constant stream of media products and productions that tell them Sex is good, try it, you'll like it -- all delivered with no advisory viewer cautions, such as: take note: an unwanted pregnancy could ruin your life.
Given that testersone and hormones are running at peak performance during adolescence; that prior to the 1950s there was no such thing as an "adolescent" (one simply went - boom! - from childhood to adulthood); and that it is the "offending" girl, her parents, and society who are expected to bear the entire financial and social burden of such pregnancies, it would seem that we're still back in the pre-1950's on this one. Maybe even farther back than that.
Methinks it may be time that the one who fathered the child, and his parents, assume their fair share of the costs, and at least half of the "blame." And it is definitely time to reintroduce some serious sex education in our schools.
So, are pregnant teenage girls the latest Britney Spears, Paris Hilton distraction meant to divert the attention of U.S. citizens from the rampant criminality of the Bush/Cheney administration and runaway gasoline prices induced by runaway oil futures speculators?
Naw, probably not. Who would ever get that idea?
So, sex is aberrant? Who knew?
We had a childcare center in my rural working class high school and I think there was general agreement that that was a good thing. If the teen mothers were to have any chance of not being stuck in poverty, they really needed to at *least* finish high school.
Then again, effective sex ed back in junior high (not just telling us what a period was, but straight talk about birth control) would have been useful. Two girls gave birth during our freshman year, suggesting that 9th grade sex ed was too little too late.
If you doubt that teen baby mammas are expensive, Read The F Budget. Our Budget is online and there is a line item for the cost of instructing preggers. It is literally four times the cost of the standard student. When one considers that special education students are only two or three times the cost of the standard student, it becomes apparent that preggers are huge drains on our limited resources. Oh, we do have very severly disabled students. Any more disabled, they are in a skilled nursing facility.
For the 50s fantasy, they also removed students for far more minor infractions, forcing the society at large to deal with the issue. One could also walk from the school to the local factory and earn a moderate wage. Wait, those of color had crap for schools and it was deliberate...to keep whitey whites wages more elevated than more qualified AfAms. The South still tries to recreate this Klanderland with 'private' schools and a voucher program.
I would like to see BushCo receive what Karma demands.
Again, it isn't about outrage and failed teens. It is about money. We are facing huge shortfalls and have to make the tough choices. Without major infusions of cash from state/commonwealth and federal sources, we will have to ration what we do. Think triage. Only those with a hope of surviving get care. The rest die.
Mold
What kind of jive-ass label is that:"preggers"? Call them what they are, please.
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