HULK SMASH
Short thread
Go for the gold?
Silver?
Bronze?
Mumph. mrrble. Yawn. More coffee. Chocolate cake for breakfast.
You did it, Gromit
That, I believe, is a home run. But the stadium is empty
stop gromit!
An adoring audience! Hi Vicki.
Woohoo, Gromit! Have some chocolate cake.
I will say that I think the title of this post is excellent.
Parades and Magnets, indeed.
Okay, back to cleaning the closets.
Hup, two, three, four, marching down the street
Rolling of the drums and the trampin’ of the feet
Generals salute and mothers wave and weep
Here comes the big parade
Don’t be afraid
Price is paid
One more parade
Chocolate cake! Actually, just had toast with cinnamon and a nice glass o'milk
No repeats of Viet Nam war coverage.
GWDPA - no shower???
"I fought in Iraq and didn't even get a lousy tee shirt"
Whose wounds are these so full of blood. Their house was in the N'awlins flood; They will not see him stopping here, To watch them shovel endless mud.
Their SUV is stocked with gear, They need stop 'n get more beer,And though we know the man a snake,He makes the terrorists disappear.
He gives harshness to lungs that ache
Concede they must to their mistake.
The only other sound's the Veep
A sleazy constitutional fake.
The wounds thereof so stark from sheep
The blood of misled yet to weep
And wars to start from guarded keep,
And wars to start from guarded keep.
-with apologies to Mr Frost
OK, now I gotta go pack Mrs. U's lunch. BBL
If there were some hot female soldiers running around without panties, you can bet your ass it would be covered.
"I fought in Iraq and didn't even get a lousy tee shirt"
"I fought in the Gulf War and all I got was this lousy syndrome"
Peter Segel: On what TV show will George Bush appear next?
Charlie Pierce: "It's the New Judge Judy, live from the Hague!"
(Just now on Wait, Wait)
I've got farmers' market tomato slices roasted on top of whole wheat bread, with melted provolone on top. Am I missing anything?
mewanhile, famed Nobelist, Oscarist, Global Warming Alarmist/Hoaxster/Huckster, Albert Antoinette Gore, Jr., issued a statement to the world's grain-starved poor:
"You need to understand that Paul Ehrlich didn't want you people here to begin with. So, going forward, please don't eat so much pate, go light on your osso bucco, and smoke twice as much as you do now...."
I've been wondering if the vets have been hidden away by the Bush government. Considering the number of wounded and the sheer number of vets, I'd think I'd see more.
Bacon?
Oddly enough I think that people are comfortable with not hearing about the war. I am not old enough to remember (obviously) WWII but in my reading and from what I have learned, people listened to the radio nightly. Watched the newsreels at the theaters and read the newspapers to find out what was going on in the war. To deprive them of this information would have not been acceptable.
But in Happy Land where we no longer acknowledge our problems, it is not only expected that we will not discuss the bad things: it is demanded. Our country has been turned into a really bad version of Disneyworld where everything is sweet and light until you break the rules: if you do then people will erupt from the pretty bushes through secret doors and whisk you away into secret places where you are never heard from again. (or at least it is moving that way)
And so is the war. We drop bombs and they are cool from as we watch them drop from the sky and blow up buildings never understanding that there men, women, children, dogs, puppies and kittens in these same buildings whose bodies are torn apart by the "Cool" bombs. It is like a video game designed for Christians by Satan.
Well, the up side is that there won't be any apocryphal mobs of DFHs rushing up to spit on the returning baby-killers.
Lubyanka
Brian, did you and Janet breed before she snipped you? I'd hate to think you passed your stupidity on to another generation.
"Parades and Magnets" would be an awesome album name.
No bacon. Good thought, though.
the heartwarming stories in the wsj this am were about investors making bundles from the food crisis.
My poor co-worker. I think her husband is shattered by Iraq. He looks fine. But he is depressed and suffering from survivor's guilt and who knows what else. And his job skills are mostly killing.
My favorite name for a real band is "Jiggle the Handle"
Oh well.
I am not old enough to remember (obviously) WWII but in my reading and from what I have learned, people listened to the radio nightly.
Don't forget the entire country was fighting WWII. Everyone who wasn't in the military was involved in scrap drives and rationing and victory gardens, etc. It was a total effort.
The Bush vanity war? "Go shop" is the sacrifice expected from us.
"Parades and Magnets" would be an awesome album name.
puppethead
_____________________
Would be? I assumed that it's a Joni Mitchell album!
Every suicide of a returning vet benefits the government. The 200K payout now is cheaper in the long run. A lifetime of of medical and other payments/pensions avoided. It's nothing personal. Just business as usual.
"Shh! Our suicide prevention coordinators are identifying about 1,000 suicide attempts per month among the veterans we see in our medical facilities," states the email from mental health chief Dr. Ira Katz. Washington Sen. Patty Murray, a member of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, slammed the VA for withholding information that was needed to help it do its job.
Source: Dallas Morning News
DWD
And so is the war. We drop bombs and they are cool from as we watch
them drop from the sky and blow up buildings never understanding that
there men, women, children, dogs, puppies and kittens in these same
buildings whose bodies are torn apart by the "Cool" bombs. It is like a
video game designed for Christians by Satan
.
During "Shock and Awe", a co-worker excitedly asked if I had watched the gunships firing on targets. I responded that there wre people on the receiving end of that. I harshed his buzz. He was not happy with me.
Sixty coleus -- in the ground. Now I can haz iced tea.
John Edwards comment about Shrub's commitment being just a bumpersticker is once again relevant.
Returning Iraq vets are suing the government for better mental health treatment.
Just as Shrub stood ont he rubble of the World Trade Towers to ramp up jingoistic sentiment, he and Mcaca stand on the bodies of dead soldiers to rally the cause. And slovenly pigs like Newsweek and Time ran articles around election time about needing to go on to make the deaths of soldiers mean something.
I hate them all.
During "Shock and Awe", a co-worker excitedly asked if I had watched the gunships firing on targets. I responded that there wre people on the receiving end of that. I harshed his buzz. He was not happy with me.
GeorgeM | 04.26.08 - 12:11 pm | #
A lot of people saw the war as a video game or Tom Clancy movie.
Good on you, Hecate. I planted a cool little perineal from said farmers' market, I think she called it a "turk's cap" and said it would get pretty big and have pink flowers and butterflies will love it. I hope so.
I've also got corn, beans to grow on fences, sunflowers, zucchini, strawberries, and of course tomatoes.
And moonflowers, if they'll come up.
Imagine if the good Germans under Hilter had blogs.
You don't have to imagine.
It's you!
A lot of people saw the war as a video game or Tom Clancy movie.
rootless-eThis guy is a vet, as am I.
I had expected better from him.
Strange here today. Eighty yesterday and fifty today. The upper midwest is sort of like that in the spring - our worst season. I think Hecate's region has the best springs.
(But our Autumns are just amazing.)
I've spread clover and compost on the bare spots, and am watering. Time to move the sprinkler.
Parades and ugly, tacky, made in China magnets.
I wish we had somebody as honest and worthwhile as Al Gore, but we never will. In the meantime, I'll take potshots at him to prove how much I hate America.
During "Shock and Awe", a co-worker excitedly asked if I had watched the gunships firing on targets. I responded that there wre people on the receiving end of that. I harshed his buzz. He was not happy with me.
GeorgeM
Too bad.
These idiots need to be reminded more often that war isn't a some video game.
Strange here today. Eighty yesterday and fifty today. The upper midwest is sort of like that in the spring - our worst season. I think Hecate's region has the best springs.
It snowed this morning. It was almost 80 earlier this week. 
NTodd, up for a game?
Hey, kids - time for another edition of "Freeperville or Orange Satan"!
The headline:
Bill Clinton Seeks Third Presidential Term (and Loophole to 22nd Amendement)
...is then followed by an excerpt from the Wall Street Journal.
Freeperville or Orange Satan?
""I've spread clover and compost on the bare spots, and am watering. Time to move the sprinkler.""
Glad global warming is working for someone. The ground is still frozen here, but it promises to get up to 51F tomorrow and then drop back into the '30's on Monday. A spring just like we used to have ten or fifteen years ago - maybe the last hurrah of the traditional seasons. But, I expect to soon hear the footfalls of California expats headed back from where they came.
ql - yup! I'll need a break from grading, though I'm motivating for a bike ride in just a bit. 
Must be great minds think alike: same subject at Fired Og Lake.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/2...sts/#more-
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It is still snowing this morning. It was almost 80 earlier this week.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Filled your tub.
Brian, did you and Janet breed before she snipped you? I'd hate to think you passed your stupidity on to another generation.
DJ |
Another generation of people who have no qualms about letting everyone on the Internet know how stupid and hateful they are.
Must be great minds think alike: same subject at Fired Og Lake.
Um...isn't that what Atrios linked to?
rootless-eThis guy is a vet, as am I.
I had expected better from him.
GeorgeM | 04.26.08 - 12:17 pm | #
there was a certain frenzy in the air. but, in general, i think americans are living in movie fugue way too much.
though I'm motivating for a bike ride in just a bit.
NTodd, TKPD |
Hurumph. I'm trying to get motivated to clean the bedroom.
Hurumph. I'm trying to get motivated to clean the bedroom.
I cleaned a bit the other day. A chair in the living room. That's a bigger deal than people might appreciate...
Latest electoral map match ups has McCain routing either Clinton or Obama X. This will be too easy, like taking candy from a baby. Democrats are fools for nominating a nominee who associates with former terrorists and America loathing reverends who make Al Sharpy Sharpton look conservative
http://www.comcast.net/news/
arti....Atheist.Speaks
It's okay to "die for your country", but you are not free to be an atheist.
May I say again how much I despise religious fanatics?
I don't think most of the war mongers see Afghanistan and Iraq as video games. I think they like the idea of killing arabs and persians, just the way the nazis liked killing gypsies and jews. Dick Cheney is as happy ordering the deaths of hundreds of thousands as he is blowing a quail out of the sky or drunkenly shooting a stupid fucking host in the face. And then, the host apologizes. Why, Dick screams, foam coming out of his mouth, why won't the Iraqi people apologize?
zap, do you scrabble?
Latest electoral map match ups has McCain routing either Clinton or Obama.
Maybe in Bizarro World, but not here on Planet Earth.
Nice try, though, jerkoff.
Terry C -
These idiots need to be reminded more often that war isn't a some video game.
Well, showing the real-life consequences of our actions would interfere with Bushco's operations. Better to censor or supress the news and keep it at a video-game level.
The "loss" in Viet Nam was due, at least in part, to film coverage of battle scenes, casualties and all.
This is where being old is an advantage. The situation is -exactly- as it was up until around '67-'68, when boys returning from Vietnam found virtually no acknowledgement that there was a nasty situation going on in SE Asia.
leibnitz, For the people back home that may be true. But I wonder if it holds true for the boots on the ground?
Latest electoral map match ups has McCain routing either Clinton or Obama X.
Democrats favored in electoral map.
Well, time to go to Firefox.
I just do not feel like dealing with braindead mouthbreathing trolls.
auggiesback | 04.26.08 - 12:25 pm | #
auggie, blue is our side, not yours. enjoy the minority for the next 50 years.
I've retired from Scrabble, qa. My 0-6 record convinced me to do so.
"It's okay to "die for your country", but you are not free to be an atheist."
The problem are the "either/or" choices that the hegemonic media gives us ...very un-American in the deepest sense of the best of our political traditions, the "better angels of our nature" if you will.
I've retired from Scrabble, qa. My 0-6 record convinced me to do so.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 12:28 pm | #
It's good to retire with a perfect record. I think Bush is following your example.
Historic Site Saturday, bitches!
(I am taking Mother Buckner to a tour of the John Adams estate in nearby Quincy this afternoon...)
In light of today's discussion one might want to reflect on why the Weather Underground felt the need for Days of Rage
A bumper sticker my neighbor just put on his car:
McCain = Insane!
Obama 2008
The dude is a Vietnam vet who hates McFuckstick.
I've retired from Scrabble, qa. My 0-6 record convinced me to do so.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 12:28 pm | #
It's good to retire with a perfect record. I think Bush is following your example.
ronjazz | 04.26.08 - 12:29 pm | #
We had a perfect volleyball season this year: 0fer, including the playoffs.
GWPDA
This is where being old is an advantage. The situation is -exactly- as
it was up until around '67-'68, when boys returning from Vietnam found
virtually no acknowledgement that there was a nasty situation going on
in SE Asia.
And if I remember correctly, the major newspapers were still shilling the admin view...
It's good to retire with a perfect record. I think Bush is following your example.
Heh. Only I didn't get a million people killed by playing.
Zap, too bad, now that we are friends and all.
PBS is going to air or has aired a series based on service people on the Nemitz. I watched a promo for it and they interviewed one guy who said he really didn't see any rationale for the Iraqi war, yet he flew missions anyway. One young woman said she just didn't think about the justness of the war. That was up to the deciders, she said. Her job was to follow orders, though, she didn't use those exact words.
Why, Dick screams, foam coming out of his mouth, why won't the Iraqi people apologize?
leibniz♘☮ | 04.26.08 - 12:25 pm | #
There's a difference between our criminal leader and our fellow citizen accomplices. Certainly a lot of people i know in technology world viewed the whole thing as a car chase scene. Boom. Can we look up Sandra Bullocks dress? Boom! Pow!
Not that I'm bitter about it or anything.
One young woman said she just didn't think about the justness of the war. That was up to the deciders, she said. Her job was to follow orders, though, she didn't use those exact words.
Why does "Nuremberg" spring into my mind?
"We vere just following ze orders!"
What really eats me up is that everyone is just accepting of it. If you try and bring it up in conversation people seem to think you are being a boor. Kind of like you're relating details about your latest bowel movement or something.
I've got farmers' market tomato slices roasted on top of whole wheat bread, with melted provolone on top. Am I missing anything?
helena handbasket
Not a thing.
Sounds right tasty!
qlª
Her job was to follow orders, though, she didn't use those exact words.That drives me crazy. "Only following orders" didn't fly at Nuremberg. It also smacks to me as "un-Christian" (if you will), in that a person is expected to silence his/her conscience in the service of killing.
What really eats me up is that everyone is just accepting of it. If you try and bring it up in conversation people seem to think you are being a boor. Kind of like you're relating details about your latest bowel movement or something.
qlª
I persist.
They couldn't shut me up during the Vietnam war when I was 19 or 20.
They sure as hell aren't going to shut me up now.
GeorgeM
Your comment reminds me of a delicate netiquette issue that I've never gotten myself together to resolve.
I have a few friends or acquaintances-- co-workers I once worked with, now moved on-- who are generally decent and good-hearted, but not sophisticated thinkers.
One in particular sends glurge every now and then. It's a mix of "chain" e-mails, helpful hoaxes (unrecognized as such by the sender, of course), and low-brow humor or weird photos, etc.
Some of it is actually funny, and I know that the senders are not really thinking about the content; they are freely passing on stuff just to keep in touch. But inevitably I'll get some awful wingnut crap, too-- usually lame, bigoted, anti-"illegal immigrant" jokes or rants, etc.
And once, but only once, I got one with videos in "night vision" showing a US helicopter gunship sighting and promptly "engaging" a group of alleged insurgents. Since "engaging" means initiating a firestorm of high-power machine guns and rockets, there were lots of spectacular shots of a vehicle exploding, tiny running figures being cut down or blown up, etc. One enchanting detail was of an "insurgent" who had been injured and was crawling back toward the side of the road for cover. Boom! he was reduced to the contents of a flaming crater.
What bothered me as much as the content is the string of "forwarded" notes my sender is too unsophisticated to remove. I was at least the 10th generation of recipients, and most of the unknown commenters had written "WOW!" or "check THIS out". Some had a "hooray for our side" tone; some didn't, but they still seemed to think that the visuals were really cool.
Of course, logically it makes sense that only those who "appreciate" such images would forward them. But it struck me that these normal Amerikans didn't recognize that what they were seeing is War Porn, and apparently getting off on it. Or that real people, and not even "enemy" troops engaged in a firefight, were being killed before our eyes.
I'm glad I don't get this stuff more often. Casually and cheerfully sharing War Porn in this manner seems very much another example of the banality of evil.
That drives me crazy.
"Only following orders" didn't fly at Nuremberg. It also smacks to me as "un-Christian" (if you will), in that a person is expected to silence his/her conscience in the service of killing.
GeorgeM
Drives me nuts whenever people won't or don't think for themselves.
That's why I have never understood the whole thing with cults.
Beleive me, I let LOTS of people know there's a war on.
There was lots of the Vietnam war on tv but according to Westmoreland, the unions made fair coverage impossible.
Television brought war into the American home, but in the process television's unique requirements contributed to a distorted view of the war. The news had to be compressed and visually dramatic. Thus the war that Americans saw was almost exclusively violent, miserable, or controversial: guns firing, men falling, helicopters crashing, buildings toppling, huts burning, refuges fleeing, women wailing. A shot of a single building in ruins could give an impression of an entire town ... (1987 of 31276 Characters)
http://www.worldandi.com/special...ril/
Sa11787.htm
I've got farmers' market tomato slices roasted on top of whole wheat bread, with melted provolone on top. Am I missing anything?
helena handbasket
BACON
The dude is a Vietnam vet who hates McFuckstick.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist
Does he also fly a POWMIA flag?
ql-
I think there are a lot of disenchanted boots on the ground. But there are also the gung ho aircraft pilots and such who are more boys with toys and see the locals as fair game or target of opportunity. This administration has stolen the hearts of souls of a large number of american soldiers, convincing them that evil is good, that killing is righteous, and that hatred and torture are american virtues.
But inevitably I'll get some awful wingnut crap, too-- usually lame, bigoted, anti-"illegal immigrant" jokes or rants, etc.
People who send me that shit get a reaming out from me.
I tell them that I do not appreciate that BS and to please refrain from sending it in the future.
It makes them look mean-spirited and none to bright.
Viscous Mass II - the snottening:
It is possible this is essentially a biofilm exuded by a mixed consortium of aerobic bacteria fed by an underlying gaseous emission rich in methane, but with a minor hydrogen sulfide component coming up into the base of the wetland.
FYI, about 10 years ago I was called in to assess and deal with a strangely 'artesian' borehole, drilled through a thick Triassic sandstone known to contain small lenses of hydrocarbons and significant amounts of hydrocarbons, principally methane.
As the borehole, which had already encountered a non-artesian aquifer at a higher level was subsequently being drilled deeper it encountered an underlying pressurized gas-bearing zone. The gas pressure then caused a continuous 'geyser' of methane-saturated water at the wellhead. This geyser immediately reacted, at and round the wellhead, with oxygen to produce a large and ever-expanding mass of aerobic bacteria embedded in an even larger mass of viscous biofilm. Traces of hydrogen sulfide in the upcoming methane were also being oxidized bacterially within this mass, thus rendering it relatively acidic and hence killing any grasses, shrubs etc which it came into contact with.
This geyser (and growth of the aerobic bacterial 'goo') continued for approximately 3 months until the upcoming water/gas combination subsided!
Biology is a never ending wonder, no?
TOO bright - sorry
In the end, only fear is stopping good reporting in Iraq.
Visitor OnlineI actively avoid the people at work who are like that. I want to slap them upside their heads for their stupidity. There is no getting through to them. None.
Beleive me, I let LOTS of people know there's a war on.
scarlet p.
And bless you for it.
At our vigil most people passing by kind of smile with a look on their face of "how quaint."
The dude is a Vietnam vet who hates McFuckstick.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist
Does he also fly a POW-MIA flag?
Chico Marxist
Nope.
One young woman said she just didn't think about the justness of the war. That was up to the deciders, she said.
people are asleep, that is how governments keep control: propaganda to lull teh sheep asleep
when i say asleep, i mean they don't think, don't question, don't care about humans being killed, yet they read on sundays about everyone is their brother; then on monday they are asleep, were they ever awake on sunday? of course not.
Your comment reminds me of a delicate netiquette issue that I've never gotten myself together to resolve.
My feeling is the best thing to do is just not acknowledge it or forward it. Become a black hole for it. If more people do that the stuff will eventually stop getting passed around.
For something really offensive like the gunship video, I'd likely respond back to the immediate sender and say, "Look, that's war porn of human beings getting killed. Is it really entertainment to you?"
It's gotta be weird returning from Iraq, from the war back to a country where the war barely exists.
What's really weird is that if you return from Iraq you are effectively prevented from saying that Bush is a fucking idiot and a war criminal.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
This administration has stolen the hearts of souls of a large number of american soldiers, convincing them that evil is good, that killing is righteous, and that hatred and torture are american virtues.
leibniz??
What, you *want* to make cry. Damn, it wouldn't hurt so much if it weren't true.
In the end, only fear is stopping good reporting in Iraq.
Moe Szyslak, cold
It still amazes me that the warmongers @ Fox can't leave their studios, yet the best reporting is done by a petite blonde female who is all over the mideast doing live broadcasts.
Don't know why I'm amazed, that's the way the neocons operate.
The crime of the future!
The owner of the Lafayette station, Gus Shahidi, doesn't know how many times the thieves struck but knows that they made multiple overnight visits to his pumps in the 3500 block of Mt. Diablo Boulevard. Between March 31 and April 7, he noticed large disparities between what his fuel counters were showing and what was actually sloshing around in his station's underground
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storage tanks.
Normally, Shahidi expects a variance of no more than 35 gallons, the result of evaporation and shifting weather conditions. But one day his measurements showed he was 160 gallons short. On another day, a few hundred more. By the weekend of April 5, when he discovered a 500-gallon shortage, he was missing a total of 1,500 gallons.
He contacted police and soon figured out that someone had unlocked a panel on one of the pumps and punched in a code on an internal key pad. The code disables the pump from requiring remote authorization to activate. The authorization system is legitimately used to cut off gas flow and allow maintenance workers to clean valves.
In the wrong hands, it means free gas and the fuel counter doesn't register a single cent.
it's just evidence of boorishness if not mental illness to inflict your out of scale anger and despair about refugees, orphans, mutilations, death, torture, white phosphorus burns, strafed villages, bombed apartment buildings and the rest on your fellow citizens.
i mean, the playoffs are on.
Nope.
Terry C - Anti-War Elitist
Cool. There are wingnuts who hate McCain as much as they hate any "librul". Usually over his involvement in the POWMIA issue.
Sampley's antagonism toward McCain stems from the senator's failure to live up to Sampley's idea of how a former POW should embrace the MIA cause. In Sampley's estimation, McCain's personal experience should have caused him to champion the search for live POWs, the way it had Red McDaniel. Instead, McCain focused on the more neutral search for "truth," as well as on the prosecution of charlatans who took money from MIA families.
When McCain took the position that the United States should establish diplomatic relations with Vietnam in return for cooperation on the MIA issue, Sampley was outraged. He believed the United States should not have any dealings with its former enemy. Anyone who said otherwise — specifically, John McCain — was a traitor.
Sampley launched a private war 3 on McCain. He searched into the senator's background, digging up old school records, military reports, and the like. Among his finds was an obscure clipping from a Cuban newspaper dated 1970. The article contained high- lights of a Cuban psychiatrist's interview with POW McCain.
http://www.miafacts.org/prankster.htm
The all volunteer army is the warrior class. The policy of the war is not their issue. They just want to fight.
Sorry for the OT post. Just following up on a post from yesterday about "the viscous mass that is eating Nova Scotia". They'retrying to figure out what it is, and this sounded like a reasonable explanation.
The all volunteer army is the warrior class.
"Just one weekend a month!" hardly constitutes a warrior class.
ql-
Well, it is not anything new I guess. My view of our honey-coated imperialism:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/
1..._b530bae2ef.jpg
Instead of putting Sampley on tv like they did with fat fuck John ONeil captain of the swiftboaters --they label sampley as a nutjob
My feeling is the best thing to do is just not acknowledge it or forward it. Become a black hole for it. If more people do that the stuff will eventually stop getting passed around.
That is not how it works. I always respond. People need to know that dream state only goes so far.
I can't imagine being stuck in Iraq for over a year at a time, several times, then coming back to America and realize few people have any idea what's going on over there.
The obsession with trivial things like American Idol and candidates preachers must make returning troops feel like aliens.
Something's eating Nova Scotia? Send it over to that rock back in my garden, willya?
"Just one weekend a month!" hardly constitutes a warrior class.
Moe Szyslak, cold
That's so seven years ago. As far as I'm concerned, the volunteer army has been a bad undermining of our democracy. We have military cities now that are completely different societies from the rest of the country. In a couple more generations there won't be any commonality.
Of course the only way it makes the news is when some kuckleheads deface a memorial to the war dead.
"Just one weekend a month!" hardly constitutes a warrior class
You are thinking of the National Guard --they were just looking for extra money and college benefits.
It is teh BLOB, Moe.
Clinton/McCain
284/244
http://www.electoral-vote.com/ev...Maps/
Apr26.html
Obama/McCain
243/269
http://www.electoral-vote.com/ev...Maps/
Apr26.html
Obama has lost some ground.
It was 269 to McCain's 254 last week with NC's 15 votes up in the air. That could lead to a 269/269 split.
Where can I get me some Freedom Fries?
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When I was in Arkansas, 2004, lots and lots and lots of National Guard people were in Iraq. It was destroying communities, families. Has that changed?
But some guy on some campus said something bad about the war.....
Does that count?
I gotta go. Later.
Mark Steyn:
In my corner of New Hampshire, we have more trees than we did a hundred or two hundred years ago. My town is over 90 percent forested. Any more trees and I’d have to hack my way through the undergrowth to get to my copy of Time magazine on the coffee table. Likewise Vermont, where not so long ago in St Albans I found myself stuck behind a Hillary supporter driving a Granolamobile bearing the bumper sticker “TO SAVE A TREE REMOVE A BUSH.” Very funny. And even funnier when you consider that on that stretch of Route Seven there’s nothing to see north, south, east, or west but maple, hemlock, birch, pine, you name it. It’s on every measure other than tree cover that Vermont’s kaput.
You're full of shit. Where every building stands, once stood trees.
I can't imagine being stuck in Iraq for over a year at a time, several times, then coming back to America and realize few people have any idea what's going on over there.
The obsession with trivial things like American Idol and candidates preachers must make returning troops feel like aliens.
The Other WA
You see them in uniform drifting through the airports like ghosts.
They all wear the same blank expression on their faces. Unreadable. Unknowable.
Mark Steyn = clueless asshole
When I was in Arkansas, 2004, lots and lots and lots of National Guard people were in Iraq. It was destroying communities, families. Has that changed?
Moe Szyslak, cold
National Guard members if they were free to speak probably have the worst things to say about Bush policy. They have taken the brunt of the Army's unreadiness(and failure of all the Bush Iraq policy)
Owls
My feeling is the best thing to do is just not acknowledge it or forward it. Become a black hole for it. If more people do that the stuff will eventually stop getting passed around.
That is not how it works. I always respond. People need to know that dream state only goes so far.
rootless-e |
People who send that shit have to be told how wrong it is to spread misinformation.
The all volunteer army is the warrior class.
Maybe the West Point officers and career NCOs, but I'd wager the average grunt was just looking for a job or trying to find a way to pay for college.
I was surprised at the number of people who enlisted "because of 9/11"
Not now but in the immediate after math there was a lot of patriotic enlistments. Now I think they are taking people who given the choice of jail or the army (and still not getting enought people)
How many Americans, exclusive of civilians, died in Iraq this months?
40 U.S. military deaths in Iraq.
We've passed the total for the last two months, and equaled January's total.
Looks like the effect of the surge is on its way out.
"we have footage of black pastor d00ds but not coffins from the Iraq war"-cable news
You don't drive, so there's no way you'd know.
Still a lot of yellow magnet ribbons on the cars out there.
So see, the war has hit home. Hard.
I sure hope that amputation of yours isn't going to slow me up any. Thanks.
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