I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Feelin your age, Atrios?
the more they stay the same.
I just turned 38.
Don't get to the movies much...don't have a TV...busy with Drinking Liberally and....
Military Keynesianism: What is that and why should I care?
.
"I just turned 38.
Thers, Man of Numenor"
He said 37. You have skipped past your expiration date.
well, i'm watching 'all the president's men' and the scene where dustin hoffman/carl bernstein calls the library of congress to confirm the that howard hunt had checked out books on the kennedys recently. the woman who answered confirmed he had and went to get more info, and when she came back on line was rattled and denied he had.
isn';t that info private -- even now, and a library is not required to release that info without a search warrant.
Been there done that.
Katharine Houghton is incredibly annoying in that movie, but Spencer Tracy is just amazing to watch
Hell, tame that shrew
Linda,
Yes, I believe so, but you miss the point. That it's so easy to find out information if you know where to look. That's why Tricky Dick and crew were brought down. I am sure KKKarl thought he'd never get brought down, and look at the bastard now. Emails. Comey. You name it. There is always a trail and info somewhere.
From below:
An angrier song: u and ur hand by pink
A,
You are a true feminist.
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner is pap nowadays...it's way too simplistic.
It was considered daring in its day.
From Below:
My theory is that women don't like the Three Stooges because none of them could possibly be providers.
Moe Green
Women don't like the Three Stooges?
SPREAD OUT!
Age is immaterial in relationships....
The young Sidney Poitier. Yum.
Always thought that would make a good porn title as well...
Terry C - End Bush's War Now | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:44 pm | #
Always found it a bit strange that the Stooges were always bachelors. Three middle aged men living together....
The young Sidney Poitier. Yum.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
"To Sir With Love"
Well then why don't they fuck him back? Surely they must have some dirt? Tell them to put their fucking money where their mouths are.
They still fear Notorious R.O.V.E. At least, "Bush's Brain" makes that seem to be the case.
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner is pap nowadays...
Nah.
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner is pap nowadays...it's way too simplistic.
It was considered daring in its day.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
I think even contemporary critics called it cloying and preachy, but if you're not moved when Spencer Tracy says good-bye to Katharine Hepburn, there's something wrong with you.
but that fucking song.....
Terry C - End Bush's War Now | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:44 pm | #
Always found it a bit strange that the Stooges were always bachelors. Three middle aged men living together....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
In reality, except for Curly, they all had happy marriages. Moe was married to his wife for 50 years.
Speaking of changes, Mid Month Kegel Blogging is up.
Women don't like the Three Stooges?
SPREAD OUT!
Terry C - End Bush's War Now
There's prolly some truth to that. Same goes for rock bands with non sexy lead singers are doomed.
Well, there's the whole "Fred and Jeri" thing...
Plot: Distinguished college professor experiments with drugs, starts living a wild night life, and successfully hits on the most attractive young coed in his class. Everybody lives happily ever after.
"The Nutty Professor"
Try that in today's educational system and see how fast you end up behind bars...
Terry C - End Bush's War Now | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:46 pm | #
Curly had a few wives, and didn't know how to handle money...
Always found it a bit strange that the Stooges were always bachelors. Three middle aged men living together....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
That's snap, crackle, and pop.
Well she was obviously there to get her MRS degree so what's the big deal? [/fogey]
They still fear Notorious R.O.V.E. At least, "Bush's Brain" makes that seem to be the case.
As I said below, the bush machine is still the 8,000 lb gorilla in texas politics.
Rove needs to be indicted.
Age is immaterial in relationships....
This isn't necessarily the case, nor has it always been true in cultural representations such as movies.
Dead Thread Shit:
"Paul Cezanne" was their classic, to the best of my knowledge
The father of cubism?
watertiger
I believe you've heard the song.
Well Cezanne's father wanted him to be an avocat
But Paul just looked at him and said, "mais non, pa."
"I want to be a painter, I know I can!"
Now his oeuvre's in the Louvre, he's Paul Cezanne, Cezanne
Cezanne, Cezanne, the father of Cubism
You have to actually hear them sing "his ooo-ver's in the loo-ver" to appreciate it.
Women don't like the Three Stooges?
SPREAD OUT!
Terry C - End Bush's War Now
There's prolly some truth to that. Same goes for rock bands with non sexy lead singers are doomed.
Gilly Gonzylon
I've loved the Stooges since I was a kid. There was a lady named Sally Starr who had a kid's show here in Philly introduced me to them.
I, in turn, introduced my daughter to them. She also loves them.
I've loved the Stooges since I was a kid. There was a lady named Sally Starr who had a kid's show here in Philly introduced me to them.
I, in turn, introduced my daughter to them. She also loves them.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:47 pm | #
Yeah, but Iggy still has some sex appeal.
WTF is this CRAP movie on SciFi (west coast) right now?
Fucking moronic "suspense" via creepy music and the usual grey on black sets.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:46 pm | #
Curly had a few wives, and didn't know how to handle money...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Didn't know how to pick women, either.
We love "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner". However, we call it "There's Some Negroes Coming To Dinner And We Ain't Happy!" My son actually thought that was the title for four years.
Speaking of changes, Mid Month Kegel Blogging is up.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Nice flower.
Half of Baghdad is pacified according to WaPo. REAL PROGRESS on the ground. That's called the glass being half FULL, not half EMPTY. We're on our way to winning this so black crepe is premature. No thanks to the far left
masculine_monica_nyc | 06.16.07 - 10:47 pm | #
I used to think it wasn't good when an older person dated a much younger person (regardless of gender), but it doesn't bother me as much nowadays...
Clint Eastwood's wife is 40 years younger than he is, and strangely enough, I feel OK with that.
while the interracial relationship is perceived as freakishly weird, the fact that the 37 year old distinguished doctor picks up a young 23 year old thing at a "Dean's party" after lecturing at a university is seen as perfectly normal.
I think that's an often overlooked point. If it wasn't for the interracial aspect, the topic would be the age difference.
True story: My mom wouldn't allow us to watch the Three Stooges because they said "shut up." You see now how far I have come.
Well it damm should be normal!!
But yes that movie is kinda weird.
FRIDAY TIGER BLOGGING!!!
Because Watertiger demands it!!!!
*******
What period of history looked down on a 23 year old college girl marrying a distinguished 37 year old?
I'm 37.
Yeah, but Iggy still has some sex appeal.
Gilly Gonzylon
Where?
I think Guess Who's Coming to Dinner with Fidel Castro and the Olsen twins would be a nice update.
Speaking of changes, Mid Month Kegel Blogging is up.
Heh. Helen Gurly Brown spoke at UT a couple of years ago and she attributed her long, successful marriage to her religious regime of kegel exercises.
The young co-eds in the audience turned beet red. Hilarious.
I believe you've heard the song.
Um, I knew a couple of the guys in the band.
while the interracial relationship is perceived as freakishly weird, the fact that the 37 year old distinguished doctor picks up a young 23 year old thing at a "Dean's party" after lecturing at a university is seen as perfectly normal.
Who wouldn't give it up to Sidney?
Half of Baghdad is pacified according to WaPo. REAL PROGRESS on the ground. That's called the glass being half FULL, not half EMPTY. We're on our way to winning this so black crepe is premature. No thanks to the far left
Big Fitz | 06.16.07 - 10:49 pm | #
Yup. Dead Enders... Freedom on the March. Turned a Corner.
You shoud read "Gullibles Travels"
Just don't like the Stooges - N.O.T. Funny at all - IMHO of course.
They're all rotting away in their graves- providers never came into the picture for me.
Lovin' some Bruuuuuce on PBS though. Hottie and Bush hater what else can ya ask for.
What period of history looked down on a 23 year old college girl marrying a distinguished 37 year old?
The Dark Ages of 1981-83.
69er huh Thers?
FRIDAY TIGER BLOGGING!!!
Because Watertiger demands it!!!!
dood.
That wuz me.
I thought it was weird when he said to Spencer Tracy "They call me Mr. Tibbs!!!"
I'm 37. NTodd
Old man.
Nice flower.
Yes. Yes it is.
Speaking of flowers, I have black calla lillies in bloom. Very gorgeous.
Half of Baghdad is pacified according to WaPo.
40%.
Heh. Helen Gurly Brown spoke at UT a couple of years ago and she attributed her long, successful marriage to her religious regime of kegel exercises.
The young co-eds in the audience turned beet red. Hilarious.
fourlegsgood, kittened
She has NOT aged well. Brrrrrrrr!
37? A mere pup.
she attributed her long, successful marriage to her religious regime of kegel exercises
She'll likely never need a NASA diaper, either.
Speaking of flowers, I have black calla lillies in bloom. Very gorgeous.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Oooooooooo - sounds lovely.
I am 38. I heard 38 is the new 60 though.
So everyone is kewl with Keith O having a GF who is 20?
I know I am.
I'm 37. NTodd
Old man.
But my name's not Dennis.
Gilly Gonzylon | 06.16.07 - 10:52 pm | #
Is he dating a woman 30 years younger than him?
I never heard that before...
So everyone is kewl with Keith O having a GF who is 20?
I'm not wild about it.
but YMMV.
WTF is this CRAP movie on SciFi (west coast) right now?
Fucking moronic "suspense" via creepy music and the usual grey on black sets.
Not scary and boring.
I'm quite annoyed.
Almost done downloading the latest Dr. Who -- Capt. Jack is back.
A third of the Minnesota sextuplets litter has died. It really pisses me off that those ignorant parents made such a poor choice and have caused needless suffering and death.
So everyone is kewl with Keith O having a GF who is 20?
Well, except that she's been keeping him from work lately.
I heard 38 is the new 60 though.
The way I heard it, 44 is the new 32.
Um, I knew a couple of the guys in the band.
watertiger
Who wouldn't give it up to Sidney?
Well, there is that.
Heh. Helen Gurly Brown spoke at UT a couple of years ago and she attributed her long, successful marriage to her religious regime of kegel exercises.
Back then society encouraged women to snatch up a husband and hold onto him.
Just don't like the Stooges - N.O.T. Funny at all - IMHO of course.
They're all rotting away in their graves- providers never came into the picture for me.
Jill | 06.16.07 - 10:50 pm |
Not THEM, their characters.
Gilly Gonzylon | 06.16.07 - 10:52 pm | #
At least Keith isn't hitting on teenage male pages while running on a policy of "family values".
Half of Baghdad is pacified according to WaPo.
40%.
40% pacified in 4 years. Will it be 100% pacified in ten years?
Victory in 2013! You lieberals are always looking at the gloomy side.
I'm 37.
NTodd, Octotherapist
Whipper-snapper!
She has NOT aged well. Brrrrrrrr!
Actually, she has.
She's about 70 ya know.
I believe she's more like 23 - let's not start the Monica backdating process again.
I'm afraid I agree. Humans are not optimized for whelping litters.
It really pisses me off that those ignorant parents made such a poor choice and have caused needless suffering and death.
puppethead
I blame Jesus.
Who wept, as usual.
Back then society encouraged women to snatch up a husband and hold onto him.
JeffCO
Helen didn't snare David Brown till she was 37.
So everyone is kewl with Keith O having a GF who is 20?
I'm 35 and Keith knows how old I... you aren't suggesting...?
what did Dennis Leary say on Letterman the other night: "Everybody tells me fifty is the new forty. I figure on a good day it's the new forty-eight."
But my name's not Dennis. NTodd
Well I could've called you old woman.
Gilly - Stooges' characters - not funny either- didn't think slapstick was funny when I was 5 - still don't
dood.
That wuz me.
fourlegsgood, kittened
OMG! Yur right.
She's so demanding i just assumed.
Jerry Seinfeld was dating 18 yr old Shoshana Lowenstein...
I'm afraid I agree. Humans are not optimized for whelping litters.
Something the doctors should know...
The one thing Keith said that annoyed me was going the whole, "but she is so mature" thing.
No, you are immature. It's not the worst thing in the world, but don't pretend you are dating a 20 year old because she is 50 in her heart.
Back then society encouraged women to snatch up a husband and hold onto him.
JeffCO
I think she was close to 40 when she married?
I believe she's more like 23 - let's not start the Monica backdating process again
She's still in utero, for god's sake!
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Watching "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" and it occurs to me that while the interracial relationship is perceived as freakishly weird, the fact that the 37 year old distinguished doctor picks up a young 23 year old thing at a "Dean's party" after lecturing at a university is seen as perfectly normal.
Oh, yes. Older men dating/marrying younger women has always been "respectable". Whereas if an older women dates/marries a younger man, watch out!
Jerry Seinfeld was dating 18 yr old Shoshana Lowenstein...
And who was comfortable with that?
Helen didn't snare David Brown till she was 37.
She told us she made him an ultimatum. Either marry me or take a hike.
He married her.
They laugh about it. Both of them are really nice. He told me all kinds of stories from the set of Jaws.
I'm not saying such relationships are necessarily wrong, just that they're no longer seen as "perfectly normal."
She's so demanding i just assumed.
I'm going to get someone to hate you.
I'm too lazy to do it myself.
She has NOT aged well. Brrrrrrrr!
Actually, she has.
She's about 70 ya know.
fourlegsgood, kittened
85.
Born in 1922.
I did crack up when Howard Stern got Janis Ian to rewrite 17 as a cautionary Jerry Seinfeld Shoshanna Lowenstein song.
37 vs. 23 was nothing in those days. Audrey Hepburn made an entire career out of on-screen romances with men 20+ years her senior: Bogart (30 yrs!), Astaire (ditto), Gary Cooper, Cary Grant, Rex Harrison.
As for this particular movie: they couldn't very well cast anyone but Poitier, whose status at the time was unique, and they couldn't cast anyone but Houghton because Hepburn was damn well going to have her niece in the movie and didn't want to hear any of your backtalk! Sort of a fait accompli...
Gilly - Stooges' characters - not funny either- didn't think slapstick was funny when I was 5 - still don't
Jill | 06.16.07 - 10:55 pm | #
What if they were more like Dennis Miller -
"Was that a field goal, or is Emil Zola dangling another participle?"
A third of the Minnesota sextuplets litter has died. It really pisses me off that those ignorant parents made such a poor choice and have caused needless suffering and death.
Why is that particular family's family planning decisions anyone else's business?
Something the doctors should know...
Certified Mutant Enemy
I'm sure they do, and it's pretty much standard procedure to recommend aborting the extras. It's the fundie parents who ignore the advice of the doctors who let these litters happen, with tragic results.
If we're going to have legalized in vitro fertilization, we should have the law contain a requirement that doctors get final say on how many to try and deliver.
Oh, yes. Older men dating/marrying younger women has always been "respectable". Whereas if an older women dates/marries a younger man, watch out!
I dated an older woman and got all kiinds of shit, mostly from her husband.
OMG! Yur right.
She's so demanding i just assumed.
She gave me some pointers last weekend.
Currently watching "Alone in the Dark" with Christian Slater, Tara Reid and Stephen Dorff.
I did crack up when Howard Stern got Janis Ian to rewrite 17 as a cautionary Jerry Seinfeld Shoshanna Lowenstein song.
trifecta | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:57 pm | #
I remember that. Jerry got pissed.
Last time I try to make a kegel joke. [crosses kugel ref off list]
She gave me some pointers last weekend.
First, twirl your hair...
Gilly - Stooges' characters - not funny either- didn't think slapstick was funny when I was 5 - still don't
"Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard..."
Katharine Houghton is married to Dr Kelso on Scrubs. In real life.
Currently watching "Alone in the Dark" with Christian Slater, Tara Reid and Stephen Dorff.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:57 pm | #
Jack Nicholson - A Christian Slater ripoff.
I'm not saying such relationships are necessarily wrong, just that they're no longer seen as "perfectly normal."
Atrios
A major theme in Alice Munro's "The Bear Went Over the Mountain", which is the basis for Sarah Polley's wonderful film "Away From Her."
It ain't just about Alzheimer's, folks... not even mostly.
Aaah - Dennis, I remember when he was funny - saw him in Vegas once - we thought none of the blue hairs would get the jokes, they didn't. He's adapted to that audience now though - eh?
Anyone remember back in the late 60s when Hayley Mills, who was in her 20s at the time, was running around with a director named Roy Boulting, who was in his 50s?
She later married him, but boy -- talk about pearl clutching!
Oh fuck. MoDo has a piece called "Obama v. Hillary" up. I am afraid to look.
Dana Priest and Anne Hull have another beaut. If by beaut I mean sorry tale of how repubs treat vets:
For the past 2 1/2 years, the counseling center at the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center in Twentynine Palms, Calif., was a difficult place for Marines seeking help for post-traumatic stress. Navy Cmdr. Louis Valbracht, head of mental health at the center's outpatient hospital, often refused to accept counselors' views that some Marines who were drinking heavily or using drugs had PTSD, according to three counselors and another staff member who worked with him.
...
In an interview, Valbracht denied he ever told counselors that PTSD does not exist. But he did say "it is overused" as a diagnosis these days, just as "everyone on the East Coast now has a bipolar disorder." He said this "devalues the severity of someone who actually has PTSD," adding: "Nowadays it's like you have a hangnail. Someone comes in and says 'I have PTSD,' " and counselors want to give them that diagnosis without specific symptoms.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
85.
Born in 1922.
Ah, yes.
Well, see, she looks even better!!
Really, she does look pretty good in person. She still has great legs.
What does YMMV mean?
Why is that particular family's family planning decisions anyone else's business?
masculine_monica_nyc
For the same reason child abuse is. These parents, through their ignorance, made a fatally bad decision. If any of their babies survive they're going to have medical problems their entire lives. It all could have been avoided by listening to sound medical advice.
I've been with only a few women younger than myself.
So everyone is kewl with Keith O having a GF who is 20?
I forget: Why am I supposed to care who Keith Olbermann dates?
Well I could've called you old woman.
Man!
Not enough eatage!!!
He told me all kinds of stories from the set of Jaws. fourlegsgood
Oh sure, you make all the kegel jokes you want.
"Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard..."
Certified Mutant Enemy
Dewey,Cheatem and Howe; Attorneys at Law
HBK,
"Your mileage may vary."
A third of the Minnesota sextuplets litter has died. It really pisses me off that those ignorant parents made such a poor choice and have caused needless suffering and death.
Fertility drug manipulation is just like abortions. You give a person control over her body. And yet I don't see the fundies in front of the Supreme Court screaming that fertility clinics be shut down. I don't see fertility clinic doctors in upstate New York being killed with deer rifles.
What does YMMV mean?
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:59 pm | #
Your Momma Might Vomit
"Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard..."
Certified Mutant Enemy
from "Men In Black" which got nominated for an Oscar for best short film.
My favorite is "Disorder In The Court."
Oh fuck. MoDo has a piece called "Obama v. Hillary" up. I am afraid to look.
I'll have the Firewall Fairy take a gander...
Currently watching "Alone in the Dark" with Christian Slater, Tara Reid and Stephen Dorff.
It's awful, isn't it?
A third of the Minnesota sextuplets litter has died. It really pisses me off that those ignorant parents made such a poor choice and have caused needless suffering and death.
puppethead | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 10:53 pm | #
Which one of the recent sextuplet families passed on in-the-womb "reduction" (selectively aborting the weakest fetuses so the survivors wouldn't wind up as salvaged preemies with brain damage and other fun issues) because it's wasn't God's will? I almost felt like screaming "Well, taking fertility drugs like you did wasn't exactly God's will, either!"
MoDo has a piece called "Obama v. Hillary" up
Let me guess -- she goes all mean girl on both of 'em.
What do I win?
yet I don't see the fundies in front of the Supreme Court screaming that fertility clinics be shut down. I don't see fertility clinic doctors in upstate New York being killed with deer rifles.
spinoza |
Funny, that.
I'll be sure and get right on lecturing some family 1000 miles away on their family planning as soon as I clean Tiger's shitty litter box.
Let me guess -- she goes all mean girl on both of 'em.
Lots of oh-so-clever juxtapositions.
Half of Baghdad is pacified according to WaPo.
40%.
40% pacified in 4 years. Will it be 100% pacified in ten years?
Victory in 2013! You lieberals are always looking at the gloomy side.
The US Army is playing "Whack-A-Mole" in Baghdad right now.
And they will be in 2013 if some Democrats don't grow some fucking scrote.
MoDo has a piece called "Obama v. Hillary" up
Let me guess -- she goes all mean girl on both of 'em.
If she refers to him as Obambi, I may just have to drive to DC to slap her upside the haid
Not enough eatage!!!
Ain't THAT the fucking truth.
Never enough eatage these days.
So sad.
(weeps brokenly)
I almost felt like screaming "Well, taking fertility drugs like you did wasn't exactly God's will, either!"
Maybe God didn't want you to have kids. Hmmmm?
If we're going to have legalized in vitro fertilization, we should have the law contain a requirement that doctors get final say on how many to try and deliver.
Regardless of what the pregnant female wants?
I blame Michael Douglas. Ever since he dumped Mo Dowd for that Catherine Zeta person, she has been especially bitter.
I think it's cause Douglas is a liberal democrat.
Which one of the recent sextuplet families passed on in-the-womb "reduction"
All of them.
The city is evacuated?
I have no idea what's happening in this stupid film, but I'm very glad it's about over.
It's awful, isn't it?
fourlegsgood, kittened
Hey kitty cat!
It ain't just about Alzheimer's, folks... not even mostly. SteveLG
Julie Christie made me misty.
It's not only the age thing that's skeevy...the professor picking up a student at a university function is also no longer cool.
Lots of oh-so-clever juxtapositions.
watertiger
and a reference to Shakespeare and lets say...Knocked Up. In the same sentence
Which one of the recent sextuplet families passed on in-the-womb "reduction" (selectively aborting the weakest fetuses so the survivors wouldn't wind up as salvaged preemies with brain damage and other fun issues) because it's wasn't God's will? I almost felt like screaming "Well, taking fertility drugs like you did wasn't exactly God's will, either!"
Phoenix Woman
Remember them?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
McC...ghey_septuplets
People correctly said that Monica Lewinsky, 22-years old or so (IIRC), was an adult, and the insinutation that Clinton was some kind of pedophile was a bunch of crap.
almost felt like screaming "Well, taking fertility drugs like you did wasn't exactly God's will, either!"
Also, these are exactly the types that should be weeded out of the gene pool.
warOnBullshit | 06.16.07 - 11:03 pm | #
Good point...
Fourlegs,
I have no idea. I was watching "Remember the Titans" until a few minutes ago, which is a good movie.
Clinton wasn't a pedophile. He was a hounddog.
I blame Michael Douglas. Ever since he dumped Mo Dowd for that Catherine Zeta person, she has been especially bitter.
Dowd troubles me. Maybe because she uses the same dye guy as Choodie Miller.
I almost felt like screaming "Well, taking fertility drugs like you did wasn't exactly God's will, either!"
Maybe God didn't want you to have kids. Hmmmm?
That's what I always say.
Maybe they should just accept god's will.
People were not meant to have LITTERS, IMHO.
eople correctly said that Monica Lewinsky, 22-years old or so (IIRC), was an adult, and the insinutation that Clinton was some kind of pedophile was a bunch of crap.
warOnBullshit
24, I think she was the oldest intern in her class. Cokie Roberts regularly referred to her as a "girl" and a "child".
Maybe they should just accept god's will.
fourlegsgood, kittened | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:04 pm | #
Did he leave me anything?
I have no idea what's happening in this stupid film, but I'm very glad it's about over.
I'm at the point where I'm about to call up Dog the bounty hunter and make the director and producers of this crap is next show.
Regardless of what the pregnant female wants?
masculine_monica_nyc
Yes, it's not natural pregnancy, it's due to medical science. If the science says you have too many, you have to abide by the terms. If that's a problem for the mother, she can choose to not get the fertility treatment in the first place.
Fourlegs,
I have no idea. I was watching "Remember the Titans" until a few minutes ago, which is a good movie.
Next up, Steven Baldwin in Harpies!!
Multi-armed Zanzabanian shark women and their exploding wigs of death!
Yeah.
You don't want to read that MoDo piece.
Thanks watertiger.
Don't forget to go to the post office when you get back in town.
Buenas noches.
I may just have to drive to DC to slap her upside the haid
We don't claim her; I think that she lives and pisses out bullshit in NYC,
People correctly said that Monica Lewinsky, 22-years old or so (IIRC), was an adult, and the insinutation that Clinton was some kind of pedophile was a bunch of crap.
warOnBullshit
Bill wasn't coming onto male pages.
Who's Choodie Miller? Oh! Judith Miller. I've only had one alcoholic beverage and that was at 6:30 PM.
Bill wasn't coming onto male pages.
Onto. On to. [scratches head]
ok the new film is 30 seconds old and i already hate it.
Although it does have nana visitor, corbin bernsen and bruce boxleitlner
Bill wasn't coming onto male pages.
Well, by GOP standards, that makes him a pervert.
We don't claim her; I think that she lives and pisses out bullshit in NYC,
No, I'm pretty sure she lives in DC.
Bill wasn't coming onto male pages.
Onto. On to. [scratches head]
JeffCO
I think "on to" is correct.
steve simels regrets the error.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 06.16.07 - 11:05 pm | #
It's amazing at some of the crap that gets made...
Oh, maybe Harpies is next Saturday.
This seems to be something else. If I weren't so lazy I'd change the channel.
Multi-armed Zanzabanian shark women and their exploding wigs of death!
catalexis-bemused Wikipedian
FEMBOTS!
Although it does have nana visitor, corbin bernsen and bruce boxleitlner
Nana Visitor?
How is it possible for alt.major.kira.hot.hot.hot to be in something that sucks?
Terry C - End Bush's War Now | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:05 pm | #
TEENAGE male pages....
[scratches head]
JeffCO
Too easy.
Who's Choodie Miller? Oh! Judith Miller. I've only had one alcoholic beverage and that was at 6:30 PM.
Monica_A: Super Genius | 06.16.07 - 11:05 pm | #
An ex used to sell her very expesive clothes. Dowd loves leather pants, apparently.
She also said Carolyn Bissett (sp) was the coolest person she'd ever met.
ok the new film is 30 seconds old and i already hate it.
Although it does have nana visitor, corbin bernsen and bruce boxleitlner
And Hunter Tylo!!
Terry C - End Bush's War Now |
TEENAGE male pages....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Exactly.
Well I think it must be a hard decision so whatever.
Julie Christie made me misty.
JeffCO
Ho, maing.
We don't claim her; I think that she lives and pisses out bullshit in NYC,
Hecate,
Ordinarily, I would not take pleasure in telling you that you were wrong, but in this case I will. In fact, I must.
The bitch lives in DC. I remember reading about her redecorating her apartment there.
She is NOT -- she is NOT, I repeat -- a New Yorker. In fact, Wiki confirms it.
That bitch is NOT A NEW YORKER.
Catherine Zeta Jones
Ceti Alpha Five
One of these is inhabited by a deadly mind controlling life form the other was a planet on which some future neocons were stranded.
Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton broke no laws. No people died for their deeds. She knew what she was doing at the time. I feel sorry for her having to suffer the consequences of confiding to Linda Tripp. But she was an adult. Bush has orchestrated the deaths of +800,000 people, the repeal of parts of the Geneva Convention, and the loss of safety for millions of Americans.
For them of y'all as missed the catblogstravaganza yesterday...
What cable has done is allow a lot of shit to be made that never would have just because there's so much air time to be filled.
Too easy. footloose
Hey, I like that hat, man. They sell men's clothes where you got that?
And Hunter Tylo!!
fourlegsgood, kittened
Right! Her very name gave me brain freeze.
Not only is she sexy, she's a legal precedent!
NOT A NEW YORKER.
Aw, shit. Just what this city needs. I stand corrected.
Maureen Dowd's first paragraph...
The busty brunette wriggles around in her pink bikini beside a picture of Barack Obama frolicking in the Hawaiian surf. She continues undulating in red underwear emblazoned with the word “Obama.” And, next to a picture of the senator in a suit, she stands proudly, wearing her own dark suit and a political-helpmate smile.
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Res is right. She told me she lived in DC.
Anyhoo, THEY ARE AMONG US!!
Hey, good news! The glass is almost half full...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070...n_re_mi_ea/
iraq
BAGHDAD - Security forces in Baghdad have full control in only 40 percent of the city five months into the pacification campaign, a top American general said Saturday as U.S. troops began an offensive against two al-Qaida strongholds on the capital's southern outskirts.
A question I'd like to ask the MSM: why are all Sunnis who don't like us automatically labeled as being al-Qaida?
"Well, taking fertility drugs like you did wasn't exactly God's will, either!"
I dunno. I can imagine someone believing that the potential to become a pregnant by means other than vaginal-penile intercourse is part of a god's creation and intention.
. Dowd loves leather pants, apparently.
Ewwww!
She also said Carolyn Bissett (sp) was the coolest person she'd ever met.
Because she was married to JFK, Jr? Doesn't this woman interview world leaders? Carolyn Bissett-Kennedy cooler than Kofi Annan? Oh I don't think so!
I almost felt like screaming "Well, taking fertility drugs like you did wasn't exactly God's will, either!"
"Well, if people didn't have ABORTIONS, there would be PLENTY of healthy, white babies for those poor people to ADOPT!"
/wingnut moron
Fucking Mo Dowd. This is crap. Even from her.
Yes, the people are talking all through the land about Obama's abs. In fact, we all were at the Ralph Lauren store in Beverly Hills last week, there were about 50 trillion of us.
It was all Obama's butt this, his bedroom eyes that.
Nana Vistor: bring back the crinkly nose.
"Corporations...like Umbrella...think they're above the law, but they're not."
Someone is pretty fucking naive.
I firmly figure (and am earnestly working on revealing in an upcoming investigative report, backed by all the resources of a huge apparatus) that if you can get 4 or more 20-year olds in the sack you should be busted for elder abuse.
I've had two Double Dog Pale Ales and am happily destroying a second Old Rasputin Imperial Stout and I still don't feel like throwing the fucking glue trap with the dead mouse in the trash.
Oh, I will. I always do.
But I have to get in a bit of a snit about it first.
I dunno. I can imagine someone believing that the potential to become a pregnant by means other than vaginal-penile intercourse is part of a god's creation and intention.
thers can balance millions of sperm wrapped in bacon on his tongue.
I dunno. I can imagine someone believing that the potential to become a pregnant by means other than vaginal-penile intercourse is part of a god's creation and intention.
masculine_monica_nyc
Yeah, there's always the old turkey baster!
She was born in D.C., too.
The bitch's only nexus with NY is her paycheck.
Pinch Sulzburger is an idiot.
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 06.16.07 - 11:09 pm | #
Exactly. It's also like that in many professions, like sports. Pitchers that wouldn't have even been considered for cutting the grass at ballparks are now overpaid starters.
One year, Steve Traschel went 8-19 for the Cubs. Normally, years ago, his career would have been over after that dismal season. The Mets signed him the next year, and he's still pitching. He still sucks.
Not only is she sexy, she's a legal precedent!
Not so much since the surgeries. Click if you dare:
http://wwwimage.cbs.com/daytime/
...large_htylo.jpg
Yikes!
Modo LOOOOOVES to write about Boom chicka bop wow
That's it. If I see Keller again on MOnday AM I am going to say something.
BTW, I saw Philip Roth again today. He was getting in a cab. He was carrying a book. Only word of the title I could see was EXILE.
It was all Obama's butt this, his bedroom eyes that.
She's like the female Tweety. I wish she'd shut the fuck up.
Youse guys read the Taguba interview, yes?
The busty brunette wriggles around in her pink bikini beside a picture of Barack Obama frolicking in the Hawaiian surf. She continues undulating in red underwear emblazoned with the word “Obama.” And, next to a picture of the senator in a suit, she stands proudly, wearing her own dark suit and a political-helpmate smile.
MoDo gets PAID to write that SHIT?
4Legs, how are the Gurrlz tonight?
Because she was married to JFK, Jr? Doesn't this woman interview world leaders? Carolyn Bissett-Kennedy cooler than Kofi Annan? Oh I don't think so!
Monica_A: Super Genius | 06.16.07 - 11:10 pm
Not Dowd, my apparel selling ex...
I did crack up when Howard Stern got Janis Ian to rewrite 17 as a cautionary Jerry Seinfeld Shoshanna Lowenstein song.
trifecta 10:57 pm
I remember that. Hilarious. And Janis Ian was fascinating, a star at 15 who realized that she didn't want that life and so deliberately went back into obscurity.
Yes, it's not natural pregnancy, it's due to medical science. If the science says you have too many, you have to abide by the terms. If that's a problem for the mother, she can choose to not get the fertility treatment in the first place.
So, the law would say that any woman who becomes pregnant by means other than vaginal-penile intercourse would only be allowed to become pregnant if she were to agree beforehand that a doctor would determine how many infants she would be allowed to give birth to as a result of that procedure? Or would there be a top-limit applied in all cases, such that every woman in that situation would be told that she could have the procedure and be allowed to give birth to, say, at most two children as a result of the procedure?
And would that law not apply to a woman who became pregnant through vaginal-penile intercourse and whose body is supporting more than one fetus, only one of which is viable?
The busty brunette wriggles around in her pink bikini beside a picture of Barack Obama frolicking in the Hawaiian surf. She continues undulating in red underwear emblazoned with the word “Obama.” And, next to a picture of the senator in a suit, she stands proudly, wearing her own dark suit and a political-helpmate smile.
Oh, here we go.
I'm going to take this opportunity to say goodnight.
Was up early to get to the farm co-op to pick veggies for a family friend who's laid up with a busted leg.
I was picking lettuce and getting paid $50 an hour, just like John McCain said.
bon nuit.
Pinch Sulzburger is an idiot.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:12 pm | #
That seems to be the general consensus.
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By the way, Garrison Keillor had a lot of sperm songs and sperm humor on A Prairie Home Companion tonight. Worth catching.
Not Dowd, my apparel selling ex...
I'm glad to know this person is now your ex.
Ummm.... don't we have film and acting schools to prevent these kinds of atrocities?
BTW, I saw Philip Roth again today. He was getting in a cab. He was carrying a book. Only word of the title I could see was EXILE.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:13 pm |
Prolly "Exile on Main Street"?
"That homicidal bitch may be our only way out of here."
Talk about your shakey alliances...
Zealot | 06.16.07 - 11:13 pm | #
Fame never lasts...it's a drug in many ways, very addictive....
One year, Steve Traschel went 8-19 for the Cubs. Normally, years ago, his career would have been over after that dismal season. The Mets signed him the next year, and he's still pitching.
For the Orioles.
But I guess that still counts.
I'm glad to know this person is now your ex.
Monica_A: Super Genius | 06.16.07 - 11:14 pm | #
Thanks. That kinda choked me up.
THis movie is retarded.
Surely there's something on.
It was all Obama's butt this, his bedroom eyes that.
Beats the shit out of Mitt.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:14 pm | #
A lot of TV directors come from film/TV schools....
You're welcome, Gilly!
OOoooooh!!
Lookee what's on MY blog!!
http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...ng-
kitties.html
oh, and one more thing:
don't follow the shoe.
follow the gourd.
Is there a book out called Exile on Main Street?
I would recognize the cover if I saw it.
"Military applications"
Ah, the MIC in an SF context, but never explore the MIC in its real world context, which is so banal.
Which brings us back to Hannah Arendt.
4Legs, we had to switch over to Men in Black. At least the cat in it's cool.
SteveLG | 06.16.07 - 11:15 pm | #
I couldn't remember the specific team he's pitching for now, but I knew he was still around, stinking up the place...
A lot of TV directors come from film/TV schools....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 06.16.07 - 11:16 pm | #
A lot of milk comes from cows Hee hee
Ummm.... don't we have film and acting schools to prevent these kinds of atrocities?
This one was made by a graduate of Liberty Film School.
What I find strange is the idea that men and women ought to fuck their age cohorts. This is a modern idea which has taken root in the US----and nowhere else as far as I can tell---which has no roots in history, no moral justification, and which is freakishly prudish, in my opinion.
So, the law would say that any woman who becomes pregnant by means other than vaginal-penile intercourse would only be allowed...
No. But just like doctors can't prescribe fatal doses of painkillers, there should be some medical guidelines on the use of fertility drugs. Either they can mandate a reduction if too many embryos take hold, or they should change the procedure to only implant one or two at a time.
The reason they do multiples now is because of cost, trying to increase the chance of success. But since the parents are clearly too ignorant to abide by proper medical advice it's time to change the procedure.
Sleepiness beckons. We have water again and I really am looking forward to the evening shower. Night batsies.
Is there a book out called Exile on Main Street?
I would recognize the cover if I saw it.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:16 pm | #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Exi...xile_on_Main_St.
Here's a clip from a great film called Karhozat (aka Damnation)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4...h?
v=45py8pY_J1Q
OOoooooh!!
Lookee what's on MY blog!!
Oh wow!!!!
Anne Bancroft | 06.16.07 - 11:17 pm | #
(Bows head)
I'm going to bed, too.
Between "All The PResident's Men" and MoDo I'm starting to get riled up.
Night, ya'll.
And Janis Ian was fascinating, a star at 15 who realized that she didn't want that life and so deliberately went back into obscurity.
Zealot
Cellist Matt Haimovitz is another.
You may see him performing the Bach Cello Suites on his 300 year old Gofriller Cello at a bar near you, if you watch carefully.
Ohmigod will you be glad you did.
Sally, I just switched too.
"Rich and MoDo...
NTodd, Octotherapist"
modo is too much. Think she hates Democrats? Just maybe?
But I don't know what she is talking about here:
"If the Obama Boys were determined to whack the Clintons on greed, they should have done so openly. Their clumsy attempt at cloak-and-dagger was bound to fail."
What could that possible be in reference to? Hummm...
The crappiest player in the Major Leagues is a millionaire.
Oh, here is the lead for tomorrow's WP editorial.
GIVE CREDIT to the advocates of broad immigration reform and to President Bush for helping to revive what looked like moribund legislation in the Senate. Now comes the hard work of securing approval in both houses of Congress for a bill so sweeping that it contains something for everyone to dislike.
What I find strange is the idea that men and women ought to fuck their age cohorts. This is a modern idea which has taken root in the US----and nowhere else as far as I can tell---which has no roots in history, no moral justification, and which is freakishly prudish, in my opinion.
Anne Bancroft | 06.16.07 - 11:17 pm | #
Here's Two Ewe
What I find strange is the idea that men and women ought to fuck their age cohorts. This is a modern idea which has taken root in the US----and nowhere else as far as I can tell---which has no roots in history, no moral justification, and which is freakishly prudish, in my opinion
What does this mean?
I understand the words but the meaning eludes me.
Some of the best stuff out there is on tv.
This thing on Sci-Fi is not one of them.
Ann Bancroft is dead and Kevin Federline walks the earth unfettered by the chains of death. Unfuckingbelievable!
bon nuit. watertiger
__________________________________________________
Just clearing out the bugs.
Great. I'm just in time for an Orioles-bashing.
Not that it's not well-deserved, but I'm a die-hard, lifelong fan. It sucks to see them, well, suck like this.
As for Trachsel, he's been one of the Orioles' most consistently solid starters this year, and he did win 15 last year. He's helped shore up a rotation that has three guys on the DL.
trifecta,
"Clinton wasn't a pedophile. He was a hounddog."
Otherwise known as a red-blooded American male.
.
Ann Bancroft is dead and Kevin Federline walks the earth unfettered by the chains of death. Unfuckingbelievable!
Monica_A: Super Genius
I heard he's going to be a "father" again.
What the fuck is with that bozo?
I always like artists who shun the spotlight, and just concentrate on putting out great art....
A lot of times they fall in love with being a celebrity, and forgot how to be an artist...
Oh wow!!!!
Now he's famous.
A lot of times they fall in love with being a celebrity, and forgot how to be an artist...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 06.16.07 - 11:20 pm | #
True, not always. Parker Posey has always been kewl.
Anne Bancroft | 06.16.07 - 11:17 pm | #
(Bows head)
Monica_A: Super Genius
Monica--I join you, genius. Sigh.
What could that possible be in reference to? Hummm...
It's nice to see you've found a hobbyhorse, hadenough.
Sweet dreams, you brave, brilliant, battered Moonbats. May moments of grace fill your late, late summer night.
trifecta | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:18 pm | #
Since when is passing a bill that everyone is going to hate a good thing?
That's the phony "bipartisan" argument....
I heard he's going to be a "father" again.
Someone cut his vas deferens!
Parker Posey has always been kewl.
Gilly Gonzylon | 06.16.07 - 11:20 pm | #
She pretty much keeps to herself. Does good work. Not going around saying "interview me, I'm the indie film chick".
He's helped shore up a rotation that has three guys on the DL.
Sinfonian, father of two
Of course the other "local" team hereabouts is the Nats, who have their entire rotation on the DL.
And most of the guys they had projected for AAA as well.
What I find strange is the idea that men and women ought to fuck their age cohorts. This is a modern idea which has taken root in the US----and nowhere else as far as I can tell---which has no roots in history, no moral justification, and which is freakishly prudish, in my opinion.
Anne Bancroft
Mrs. Robinson, I think you're trying to seduce us.
May moments of grace fill your late, late summer night.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
It's still Spring!
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As for Trachsel, he's been one of the Orioles' most consistently solid starters this year, and he did win 15 last year. He's helped shore up a rotation that has three guys on the DL.
Trachsel was useful for much of his time with the Mets. Glavine has given up 15 or so earned runs in his past two starts.
What I find strange is the idea that men and women ought to fuck their age cohorts.
What is this "fucking" to which you refer?
Irish catholic priest stereotype on "Guess Who" right now.
Supposedly Britney is getting back together with KFed.
I'm ashamed I even know of this.
What is this "fucking" to which you refer?
Sinfonian, father of two
(sigh)
Hell! I'll cut his vas deferens.
What is this "fucking" to which you refer?
Sinfonian, father of two
A town in Austria iirc.
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What is this "fucking" to which you refer?
Sinfonian, father of two
Wait. Don't tell me, I think I remember.
Mrs. Robinson, I think you're trying to seduce us.
She had me at "When".
"It's nice to see you've found a hobbyhorse, hadenough.
masculine_monica_nyc "
What? I thought that was very subtle.
Supposedly Britney is getting back together with KFed.
That should not be allowed to spawn. I'm leaving it at that.
Of course the other "local" team hereabouts is the Nats, who have their entire rotation on the DL.
And most of the guys they had projected for AAA as well.
SteveLG
Right, well, the Nats just won two of three in Baltimore ... which gives one a sense of just how pitiful the O's are right now.
Incidentally, I used to live in Melbourne, FL, which was the Nationals' training site ... I saw their first ever game (as the Nationals) in spring training. I still regret not getting Frank Robinson's autograph on my prize possession: a baseball signed by 11 Hall of Famers.
But just like doctors can't prescribe fatal doses of painkillers, there should be some medical guidelines on the use of fertility drugs. Either they can mandate a reduction if too many embryos take hold, or they should change the procedure to only implant one or two at a time.
The reason they do multiples now is because of cost, trying to increase the chance of success. But since the parents are clearly too ignorant to abide by proper medical advice it's time to change the procedure.
Maybe the parents aren't ignorant; maybe they're conflicted and have to make a difficult decision.
If the law isn't going to set hard limits, the guidelines you describe would leave women and the medical profession exactly where they are now.
I always thought allowing prudes to define sexual morals is like having an anorexic write restaurant reviews.
The anorexic might pick out restaurants that don't immediately make them puke, but is that a reason to want to eat there?
Spencer Tracey died 17 days after finishing filming "Guess Who's Coming..."
17 days...
Sigh.
which was the Nationals' training site
It still is.
Simels regrets, etc.
I mean, if a man of a certain age is able to bag a young woman in order to create a family, what's wrong with that? And if a woman of a certain age is able to marry a stupid but hot boy like Ashton K., why not?
Tight ass white and black parents on TCM right now.
Yeah, inviting a priest was a great idea.
And it's perfectly natural to accept your daughter eloping with some dude you've never met.
Hell! I'll cut his vas deferens.
She'll defuck him UP!
The anorexic might pick out restaurants that don't immediately make them puke, but is that a reason to want to eat there?
Doug
There's this gal on the Fox Morning show in Philly who does restaurant reviews.
Let's just say I don't think she's eaten since the first Clinton Administration.
Irish catholic priest stereotype on "Guess Who" right now.
The daughter is played by Katherine Hepburn's real life niece...
Katharine Houghton was born on March 10, 1945, in Hartford, Connecticut, the daughter of Marion Hepburn Grant (Katharine Hepburn's younger sister) and Ellsworth Grant. Before going into the movies, she went to Sarah Lawrence College and majored in philosophy. Her debut in the movies was in 1967's Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967) as Joanna Drayton. This movie also starred her aunt, Katharine Hepburn, with whom which she has had a close relationship, Spencer Tracy and Sidney Poitier. Since this time, she has starred in over fifty on and off Broadway and New England regional theater productions. She is also a playwright and amongst her credits are such productions as: "Best Kept Secret", "Merlin", "The Marry Month Of May", "Mortal Friends", "On The Shady Side", "The Right Number", "Phone Play" and her translation of Anouilh's "Antigone". She also presents lectures: "Katharine X Three", "My Grandmother's House Near The River" and "The Secret Life Of Louisa May Alcott".
I still regret not getting Frank Robinson's autograph on my prize possession: a baseball signed by 11 Hall of Famers.
Sinfonian, father of two
Frank Robinson exists in a separate universe of cool, along with Nat King Cole, Harry Belafonte and a select handful of others.
Love him.
They're going to live in Geneva.
I lived in Geneva.
Tracy is amazing in this.
Ashton Kutcher isn't hot.
Let's just say I don't think she's eaten since the first Clinton Administration.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now
There's a joke in there somewhere ... she's eaten ... Clinton ... nope, it's not coming to me right now.
Hell! I'll cut his vas deferens.
She'll defuck him UP!
Damn right!
What I find strange is the idea that men and women ought to fuck their age cohorts. This is a modern idea which has taken root in the US----and nowhere else as far as I can tell---which has no roots in history, no moral justification, and which is freakishly prudish, in my opinion.
Anne Bancroft
It has to do with marriage, not fucking so much. Think of a young man growing up to the age when marriage seems advisable in his society. This used to be at a fairly young age. If he wants a fertile wife the woman can't be much younger (or she won't menstruate). So it does have roots in history that the partners are fairly close in age, at least in first marriages.
That the difference in ages almost always benefits the older partner in power and so on is probably what Atrios points out. Older women seldom marry younger men.
Catholic or not, Spencer Tracy should have married Katherine Hepburn. All the shit she took from him over the years... It's the least his drunken ass could do!
Katharine Houghton was born on March 10, 1945, in Hartford, Connecticut, the daughter of Marion Hepburn Grant
She's hot, though i suppose too old for me now....
I keep thinking it doesn't get worse.
I keep being wrong.
I'm gonna go back to watching "Men In Black."
Tracy is amazing in this.
Particularly considering that he was on his deathbed while they were making it.
Gilly...here's a clip...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...related&
search=
It has to do with marriage, not fucking so much.
Heh. Marriage is always about not fucking so much.
Ashton Kutcher isn't hot.
Terry C
Well I figure that you will be damned pleased to know that Andrew Sullivan disagrees with you. I remember him writing sometime a few years ago about how gorgeous Ashton was.
Monica_A: Super Genius | 06.16.07 - 11:28 pm | #
Katherine had an affair with John Ford back in the 1930's, and Ford almost left his wife then. But he was a very deeply religious Irish Catholic, so he couldn't bring himself to divorce Mary, his wife.
I'd like to see evidence that women have married men of the same age throughout history. As I understand it, the man has often been several years to several decades older.
And the point about children was.. well that is exactly my point. You can't expect a 50 year old man who wants to have children to marry a 50 year old women.
She's hot, though i suppose too old for me now....
Culture of TrÜth
from Wiki...She is married to Ken Jenkins (Bob Kelso on Scrubs) and they have three sons.
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I'm gonna go back to watching "Men In Black."
Rmj, Sylar's Evil Twin
If it makes you feel better, I've heard from sources within New Mexico (where it's on the local news), that Rumsfeld is called a war criminal in public quite a bit in Taos, where he hangs out. Apparently this is pretty striking since people in Taos are known for being pretty mellow.
re: 37 picks up 23 year old.
hey I have a retired friend/former prof of french lit. 80 now.
oh boy the 60s were a heydey for him let me tell you.
course he still things he's 'got it' and the 23 year olds seem to, uh,........move away.....fast as they can
I heard he's going to be a "father" again.
Someone cut his vas deferens!
Monica_A: Super Genius | 06.16.07 - 11:21 pm | #
Well, all I got is this here shotgun. Will that work?
37 year old distinguished doctor picks up a young 23 year old thing at a "Dean's party" after lecturing at a university is seen as perfectly normal.
Katharine Houghton I'd hit it...
But he was a very deeply religious Irish Catholic, so he couldn't bring himself to divorce Mary, his wife.
Dear Mr. Ford:
If you're so deeply religious, don't bang women you aren't married to. Scumbag!
/
from Wiki...She is married to Ken Jenkins (Bob Kelso on Scrubs) and they have three sons
No shit!
Monica_A: Super Genius | 06.16.07 - 11:34 pm | #
It is hypocritical.
I'm just glad you're watching TCM since I'm the head of programming.
Racism trumped ageism.
I'd like to see evidence that women have married men of the same age throughout history. As I understand it, the man has often been several years to several decades older.
And the point about children was.. well that is exactly my point. You can't expect a 50 year old man who wants to have children to marry a 50 year old women.
My point wasn't that there would never have been age differences of the type you mention, only that there is a fairly good and natural reason why partners are often pretty close in age, and this is the way one used to get married in most agricultural societies. There are exceptions, especially where polygamy was common, but mostly people got married fairly young. My family records in some lines go back to 1500s and at least my ancestors were close to each other in age within each marriage.
You can't expect a 50 year old man who wants to have children to marry a 50 year old women.
But historically speaking most 50-year old men wouldn't have wanted to have children as they already had them by that age.
Gottdammit! When is someone going to go on the record in this story?!?
"the fact that the 37 year old distinguished doctor picks up a young 23 year old thing"
The RightWing pines to go back to the '50s.
Blacks couldn't vote and if they got uppity you could lynch them, women knew their place (the kitchen and the bedroom), no interracial marriage, "gay" meant happy, you could beat your wife and the cops would merely tell you to keep the noise down, you could drive drunk and the cops would offer to drive you home.
Ah, those were the days.
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But historically speaking most 50-year old men wouldn't have wanted to have children as they already had them by that age.
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:36 pm | #
and depending on the 'history' in question most 50 year old men would be 6 feet under.
i've been reading Janeane the Acerbic Goblin's comments and have come to the incontrovertible conlusion that I would hit it...
Oh hell, I ain't even gonna try. As I explained before: when I tried it the last time it took me four hundred pages and I just scratched the surface. That question - men and women and the age differences and the desire factor is one of the most intriguing of all questions and the answers are simply not very easy.
What women are seeking and what men are seeking are seldom the same thing and the obvious things are seldom as important as it would seem on the surface. Most of the answers, oddly enough, seem to be embroiled in people's self-images and not in their egos.
VJ | 06.16.07 - 11:37 pm | #
The GOP want to return to those "good old" days...
So do the MSM...
It is hypocritical.
Ain't it? I'm off to bed. Goodnight, non-hypocritical darlinks!
Hepburn and Tracy were together for 25 years. He wouldn't divorce his wife either.
The online E?
If you think Sidney's age would have rankled the likes of Malken and O'Reilly, imagine the furor over "How To Stuff a Wild Bikini".
That's prime right-wing Congressional Hearing material.
Just saw it on TCM and was kind of shocked at it's hysterically crass and blatant sexual inuendos ...complete with a song titled "36-22-36"...
Speaking of tits and crass, Fox has jumped on the opportunistic tragedy of Katrina and created a new show set in New Orleans.
And oh yeah it's in typical Fox fair and balanced style.
The show's title? Killville.
A steamy story starring a lusty young black woman, a tuff black dude and lots of white cops.
A third of the Minnesota sextuplets litter has died. It really pisses me off that those ignorant parents made such a poor choice and have caused needless suffering and death.
Why is that particular family's family planning decisions anyone else's business?
masculine_monica_nyc
I don't want right-wingers involved in my start-of-life and end-of-life decisions; it seems only logical that I should stay clear of theirs.
George Johnston | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:38 pm | #
I don't want to be hit...
"the fact that the 37 year old distinguished doctor picks up a young 23 year old thing"
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The RightWing pines to go back to the '50s.
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I don't get the point. No snark. I just don't get it.
and yes, I do play a grand-wizard of the Ku Klux Klan on TV.
But historically speaking most 50-year old men wouldn't have wanted to have children as they already had them by that age.
Wouldn't that have depended on the socioeconomic class of the people involved? I mean, in families where survival rates were compromised, a man of 50 might have married — or remarried — a younger woman to have even more children.
My favorite mashup.
Nothing you prolly haven't seen and heard before.
I first heard it a month or so ago in Old Navy with my younger daughter... when we heard the piano intro we said "Oh... I know what that is."
Then we said: "Wait... what the hell?"
George Johnston | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:38 pm | #
I don't want to be hit...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 06.16.07 - 11:39 pm | #
I'd massage it.
That Rummy being called a war criminal news does brighten my day. Or my evening.
Fiorentino!!!!!!
Agnew was an impressive asshole, wasn't he? "Nondenial-denial."
Trying to remember the autographs on my 11-Hall-of-Famer baseball is like trying to name the Seven Dwarves.
I always miss one.
(I don't have it handy to check ...)
Fiorentino!!!!!!
Culture of TrÜth
I saw that movie in the theatre, a rarity for me, and when she says "I hate the living" I burst into loud guffaws. People were turning around to look at me, my friends were embarrassed. I didn't care.
I mean, in families where survival rates were compromised, a man of 50 might have married — or remarried — a younger woman to have even more children.
It's interesting to speculate on this. But during some eras 50 was very old indeed. A man of that age would not expect to see any new children grow up. If (as I suspect) one reason for having those children was to have someone to support you in old age then it might not have made much sense at that age. I'm just guessing here.
“From the moment a soldier enlists, we inculcate loyalty, duty, honor, integrity, and selfless service,” Taguba said. “And yet when we get to the senior-officer level we forget those values. I know that my peers in the Army will be mad at me for speaking out, but the fact is that we violated the laws of land warfare in Abu Ghraib. We violated the tenets of the Geneva Convention. We violated our own principles and we violated the core of our military values. The stress of combat is not an excuse, and I believe, even today, that those civilian and military leaders responsible should be held accountable.”
That Hersh/Taguba article is grim, grim, grim.
If (as I suspect) one reason for having those children was to have someone to support you in old age then it might not have made much sense at that age. I'm just guessing here.
Echidne of the snakes
Depended on class too. A lot of men couldn't afford a "decent" bride until they'd established themselves, or inherited something. And then they'd want a child bearer.
One of my favorite lines Dangerous Liaisons is when Cecile declares that the man her mother has picked for her is "an old man!", at thirty-six
I have to go. Good night, bats.
Indeed. I'm going to call it a night as well.
Good night, all.
Trying to remember the autographs on my 11-Hall-of-Famer baseball is like trying to name the Seven Dwarves.
I always miss one.
That's why you should use your other balls for autographs. They're always with you so you can check.
Donald Segretti, one of Notorious R.O.V.E.'s capos before Rove became a made man.
Humans by Era Average Lifespan
(years)
Neanderthal 20
Upper Paleolithic 33
Neolithic 20
Bronze Age 18
Classical Greece 28
Classical Rome 28
Medieval Britain 33
End of 19th Century Western Europe 37
Current world average 67
Present Day Native Groups 34
“From the moment a soldier enlists, we inculcate loyalty, duty, honor, integrity, and selfless service,” Taguba said. “And yet when we get to the senior-officer level we forget those values. I know that my peers in the Army will be mad at me for speaking out, but the fact is that we violated the laws of land warfare in Abu Ghraib. We violated the tenets of the Geneva Convention. We violated our own principles and we violated the core of our military values. The stress of combat is not an excuse, and I believe, even today, that those civilian and military leaders responsible should be held accountable.”
This is PRECISELY what infuriates me about Abu Ghraib, above and beyond the acts themselves, which are themselves beyond reprehenisble.
The code that is so needed for men and women to survive under fire has been undermined, and, not surprisingly, at the directive of cowardly assholes like Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.
Darling Little Segretti!!!
Humans by Era Average Lifespan
(years)
Neanderthal
DOn't those numbers change dramatically when you factor out infant/child mortality? Seems to me I read somewhere that, at least since the middle ages, if you made it to twelve, your life expectancy was well over fifty. I can't remember the details
Humans by Era Average Lifespan
I wonder what the splits are for males and females. It could still be the case that an "older" man in his 20s married a teenage woman, say, to have children to support them.
DOn't those numbers change dramatically when you factor out infant/child mortality? Seems to me I read somewhere that, at least since the middle ages, if you made it to twelve, your life expectancy was well over fifty. I can't remember the details
Jim | 06.16.07 - 11:51 pm | #
Yes, infant mortality is factored in; the more complete chart includes some figures for life expectancy once you make it to 19, and so forth.
It's wikipedia, so grain of salt.
It's wikipedia, so grain of salt.
rorschach | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 11:53 pm | #
A 1000 grains of salt...
Darling Little Segretti!!!
It's a fingerfood AND a screwdriver in the wheels of justice!
I guess most everyone has gone upstairs to rock on.
Hersh, re Taguba:
“He was ethical and he knew his stuff,” Myatt said. “We really became close, and I’d trust him with my life. We talked about military strategy and policy, and the moral aspect of war—the importance of not losing the moral high ground.” Myatt followed Taguba’s involvement in the Abu Ghraib inquiry, and said, “I was so proud of him. I told him, ‘Tony, you’ve maintained yourself, and your integrity.’ ”Support the Troops.
Taguba got a different message, however, from other officers, among them General John Abizaid, then the head of Central Command. A few weeks after his report became public, Taguba, who was still in Kuwait, was in the back seat of a Mercedes sedan with Abizaid. Abizaid’s driver and his interpreter, who also served as a bodyguard, were in front. Abizaid turned to Taguba and issued a quiet warning: “You and your report will be investigated.”
“I wasn’t angry about what he said but disappointed that he would say that to me,” Taguba said. “I’d been in the Army thirty-two years by then, and it was the first time that I thought I was in the Mafia.”
Support the Troops.
Support the Troops.
Bullshit.
I suspect so.
Michaelangelo lived to age 90. Jefferson and Adams lived past 80.
I don't want to be hit...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin | 06.16.07 - 11:39 pm | #
Janeane wants hand holding, long walks through the city, searching for Partridge Family and Leonard Cohen bootlegs along 2nd Ave, and pressing up against a doorway when the rain falls.
If it makes you feel better, I've heard from sources within New Mexico (where it's on the local news), that Rumsfeld is called a war criminal in public quite a bit in Taos
Rumsfeld;
being convicted as a war criminal, hung by the neck till his rotten corpse fell to the ground,
left there to be infested with beetles and maggots,
then tossed into a garbage dump,
would make me feel better,
You saw Phillip Roth? Does he live like a rich man? Why does he live like a rich man? Why doesn't he just write his books in private on condition that none of them be published until he dies. Isn't that what all artists should do? Why isn't posthumous fame enough?
Why is that particular family's family planning decisions anyone else's business?
masculine_monica_nyc
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For the same reason child abuse is. These parents, through their ignorance, made a fatally bad decision. If any of their babies survive they're going to have medical problems their entire lives. It all could have been avoided by listening to sound medical advice.
puppethead
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They will not necessarily have problems the rest of their lives. Me & the wife had identical triplets - no fertility treatments, and they don't produce identicals anyway - and two survived (24 weeks, 15.5oz and 1lb8oz at birth), and they are doing fucking great. But, generally speaking, you are right, and I get choked up every couple of weeks when I realize how lucky we are.
And the truth is, Spinoza, is that with abortion, you are controlling your own body, but with these multiple-implants, you are quite possibly causing some other poor creature to live with the consequences of your decision for decades, and make the rest of us pay for it too.
And my marriage is interracial and my wife is 5 yrs older than me.
Gee, if you were NSA you could use that information to identify me in about 10 minutes. It's not a very common combination.
Well, I guess if I were a 37 year old professor, I'd try to meet a 23 year old girl too....and let's face it; she'd be a girl. I'm only 30 and women who are 25 are girls in my eyes. But bless them just the same We're all just people, after all.
WWAD (what would Atrios do) ?
Atrios may be amused that the first person I heard make his point was the legendary Dr. Laura Schlesinger.
dude, everybody wants to sink one in a 23 year old girl. nothing surprising there.
I'm 49, my girlfriend's 26. What's the problem?
I was a 34 year old grad student when I started dating my then-23 year old wife-to-be. This was in 1988, FWIW. Seems to be working out so far.
I keep thinking I might pick up with someone aged 20 to 40 and bring her home to stay with me and my wife, as we have sort of drifted apart, separate beds and I'm too old for this sort of thing kind of stuff.
But I don't have the distinguished position of lecturing to make them drool. And I've been married almost 40 years, which probably doesn't me a very appetizing specimen as a sperm donor.
Still, Jimmy Carter said it was ok to lust in my heart.
Movies are fantasies, even with interracial May-December romances.
Nice fantasies though. Beat hell out of blowing each other to bits over some black oil.
"I forget: Why am I supposed to care who Keith Olbermann dates?
masculine_monica_nyc"
In general, I agree with this.
However, if it turned out that Keith O had started dating Karl Rove, I believe that would be a legitimate topic of discussion.
"I'd hit it"-Fred Thompson
I've never understood the mores of May-December dating. Feminists, and everybody else, fought for the right of a 21+ woman to make up her own mind about everything, including whom to take as a lover. But at the same time the zeitgeist suddenly wanted to protect young (but adult) women from "cradle-robbing" old men. So, which is it? Are the innocent young things competent or aren't they?
My own theory is that the newly-liberated older women wanted to squelch the competition.
She's an adult. As far as I'm concerned, their ages are their business.
And why shouldn't it be normal? Maybe in those days 23 year old women didn't act like infantilized teenagers, and so the age difference didn't seem so much like child molestation. If young adults today weren't so goddamn unbearable, I'd think about screwing one or two myself. Besides, in the old days, way before GWCD?, young women looked for men who were financially ready to start a family, so for younger women there just weren't many marriageable men their own age.
So racial discrimination = bad...
but age discrimination = good?
..."Maybe in those days 23 year old women didn't act like infantilized teenagers..."
jussumbody | 06.17.07 - 11:20 am | #
That's one important reason. There's certainly a big difference. People don't change but culture and expectations do. Like Paris said, it was an act and she acted dumb. Along with that went the party persona. And if that wasn't encouraged by males around her, and the culture in general, it simply wouldn't happen. But you see it over and over because of the environment.
In the bookstore yesterday I picked up one of those 70's nostalgia paperbooks with ads and headlines of the era. I was kinda shocked at the maturity of the young women in the ads, and the acceptance of women who demanded respect and spoke of independence and rights - the idea was so mainstream they were in the actual ads! The songs of the day, the tv shows of the day, all were on message (a good message) of respect for women and for each other. It's very different now.
The other reasons, are varied. For one thing, the discomfort with black people as the "other" was much worse back then. It's one thing to bring a mature Sidney to dinner, but what about younger, more threatening black male? So the age difference was probably necessary.
And yes, back then it was common for women to look toward men as support mechanisms and head of households, not as soulmates. So it seemed perfectly normal to have a much older spouse. As far as letchery and dating much younger women and all that....those things were not discussed openly, and therefore, they did not exist. If uncle wanted to bounce you on his knee even though you were 12 and way past that as appropriate, no one said a thing. Because molestation just didn't exist, just as incest didn't exist, wife battery didn't exist, etc.
Folks, it's the difference in POWER.
And class.
The elephant in the room that people like to talk about even less than race.
That IS perfectly normal. Its a 14 year age difference. No biggie. I've known plenty of average couples where the husband is about that much older than the wife. Slow news day here?
I had the same view when I first saw that movie. Me and my friend (same age, 26 now, then 22) both couldn't figure out why the parents were freaking out over the inter-racial thing but not the "we just met two weeks ago and now we're getting married" thing. I mean, we understood the culture at the time, but still.
Made the movie almost unwatchable.
i don't get your point.
lot's of older guys like to date women half their age.
what's wrong with that?
i am 62 and have a hottie at 27.
rrrrrgghhhh
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