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Hello!


Paz!


GravatarHola


GravatarEspańa!


GravatarCharleton Heston as 'El Cid' unavailable for comment.

Franco still dead.


GravatarDRAKE BULLDOGS WOO!

(World must be ending)


GravatarZapatero will continue to appease the French and Portugese. Is no fascist nation safe from the scourge of democracy.


GravatarPeople are voting in France too, municipal elections. It appears that Sarkozy's party is taking a beating. Quelle surprise.


Gravatarare we to let a common shoemaker run a great nation in this time of war?
/NYTimes Correspondents


GravatarIt appears that Sarkozy's party is taking a beating. Quelle surprise.
Thread Theorist

If Sarkozy and his new wife choose to go to an S&M party, that's their right as consenting adults.


GravatarViva Zapatero!


Gravatar"is Zapatero the anti-Christ?"-Glenn Beck to John Hagee


GravatarDoes this mean your trip to Spain last year can be tax deductible?


GravatarGreat news - Pope Benedict made it the number one political priority in Europe to oust the Socialists after they approved gay marriage and abortion. And apparently the church's edict last week ordering church members to vote their religion backfired big time.

Not a good day for Bushco either. The rightwing in Spain would have gone back to being Bush lackeys.


GravatarDunno. I Heart the Beatles, but Duke Ellington's Orchestra was amazingly good, too!


GravatarMcCain shipped American jobs to France.

That should play well in Ohio, donthca think?


GravatarFree Catalonia!


GravatarHooray for the Shoemaker guy.


Gravataryo cnn says so also on its front page
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...ins- ruling.html


GravatarPope Drug Addict should STFU.


GravatarWeird. I see my new Gravatar on my iMac downstairs and my old one on the laptop upstairs.


GravatarSpeaking on behalf of the Democratic Party, an Iraq combat veteran said Saturday that apparent GOP nominee John McCain should not win the presidential election because he would continue the war in Iraq.

Roger Martinez, who served as an Army ranger in Afghanistan and Iraq, noted in the Democrats' weekly radio address that President Bush endorsed McCain this week. Bush said McCain "won't flinch in the face of danger" and McCain strongly supports the U.S. efforts in Iraq. Electing a leader who would continue Bush's policies in Iraq would be a mistake, Martinez said.

"Our country and our armed services cannot afford another leader like President Bush who would keep our overstretched military in Iraq for 100 years while ignoring the other threats our country faces both at home and around the world." McCain has said that U.S. troops could be in Iraq for many years if those troops were no longer being injured or killed.

"I honor and thank John McCain for his years of military service to our country," said Martinez, who is studying at the University of Texas at San Antonio. "But I don't think he offers the right leadership on Iraq or understands how to reinvigorate our economy here at home."


Gravatarare we to let a common shoemaker run a great nation in this time of war?
/NYTimes Correspondents

We've seen what happens when you let a Harvard MBA try.


GravatarDunno. I Heart the Beatles, but Duke Ellington's Orchestra was amazingly good, too!
plantsman,


there are lots of other great bands of course - my only point is that the beatles are the greatest ever.

that's really indisputable.


Gravatarare we to let a common shoemaker run a great nation in this time of war?

So it's Thom McCann, not that other old guy with a funny name running?


GravatarIf any of them drink Lattes it DOESN'T COUNT.


GravatarDunno. I Heart the Beatles, but Duke Ellington's Orchestra was amazingly good, too!

Everyone knows Ellignton's best stuff was actually written and arranged by Billy Strayhorn. Ellignton just took the credit.


GravatarIs the new or old one spiky and orange?


GravatarDunno. I Heart the Beatles, but Duke Ellington's Orchestra was amazingly good, too!
plantsman


Kiri Te Kanawa has an amazinging voice.

It doesn't mean that I like opera.

However, apparently some people take these things personally....



GravatarPope Benedict made it the number one political priority in Europe to oust the Socialists after they approved gay marriage and abortion. And apparently the church's edict last week ordering church members to vote their religion backfired big time.

hopeless pedant


The folks at the Vatican should mind their own business.


Gravatar
And apparently the church's edict last week ordering church members to vote their religion backfired big time.


That piece of shit really likes to interfere in elections doesn't he?

The fucker wrote the no communion for John Kerry edict.


GravatarEllington was so smooth, though -- I like how he takes credit.


Gravatar(.)(.)


GravatarUnderstood. I missed the Opera Line before birth.


GravatarDoes Spain have a caucus? It might not count, unless they elected Clinton.


GravatarZOMG the terraists have won, again! Spain is lost to the Islamofascist hordes!


GravatarBush said McCain "won't flinch in the face of danger"




"Unlike me, who sat with a deer in the highlights look on 9-11-01."


GravatarI laugh en your Neo-con faces. Ah ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarThe rest of the world hates Shrubco
what a aurprise.


GravatarThat piece of shit really likes to interfere in elections doesn't he?
He did receive some special training in his youth.


GravatarAnd apparently the church's edict last week ordering church members to vote their religion backfired big time.

They still miss crowning and excommunicating kings.

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Gravatar"is Zapatero the anti-Christ?"-Glenn Beck


Does ANYONE watch his shitty show?

Seriously.


GravatarJim HIghtower is a great guy, but he really should find some people of color to be on his next book cover


GravatarPope Ratzo is well on his way of making the Church irrelevant again.


GravatarIf the Pope could relax and understand the joy of irrelevancy, he might become an atheist.


GravatarI'll bet Tucker watches it. Nekkid.


GravatarPope Ratzo is well on his way of making the Church irrelevant again.
Hesiod


I think he should be doing more.


Gravatar
They still miss crowning and excommunicating kings.

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Cynicus | 03.09.08 - 3:50 pm | #


They miss burning at the stake and real old fashioned torture.

They miss Arriba Espana! and the Generalissimo.


GravatarHe did receive some special training in his youth.

Sadly, many an altar boy does get the 'very special' education in the Chursh.

tho few got to shoot 88 mm cannons at Allied bombers.

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GravatarI am eating the world's most perfect food; Haagen-Dazs coffee ice cream.


Gravatarthere are lots of other great bands of course - my only point is that the beatles are the greatest ever.

that's really indisputable.
dirk gently

and that's a fact.
dirk gently, sociopathetic

Although I may agree, it's not worth a "Red Dwarf" paper hat war to settle it.
Flint, employed, annoyed


Gravatar"is Zapatero the anti-Christ?"-Glenn Beck

Ummm...Beck does realize that the "anti-Christ" was invented by a French Doctor named Nostradamusm, and is not actually a biblical concept.

Right?


GravatarBush said McCain "won't flinch in the face of danger"

Bush knows all about flinching in the face of danger.

For example, that time he heard a knock on the door and lost an entire line of blow off a 15 year old Mexican hooker's ass back in '73.


GravatarI am eating the world's most perfect food; Haagen-Dazs coffee ice cream.
trifecta


Oh yes.


GravatarWhy doesn't the Pope mount a strong campaign against pederasts?


GravatarThat Brad Pitts Trojan movie is on AMC. It must have sucked doing wars without computers and combat aircraft.
leibniz♘☮ | 03.09.08 - 3:45 pm | #


Even with Eric Bana that movie was nearly unwatchable.


GravatarThe Beatles are in now way, no how the "best band ever."

They wote the most pop tunes to chart Billboard, but they are not the best band. That's silly.


GravatarWhat man names himself Our Lady with a masculine ending that's not into sequins?


GravatarI am eating the world's most perfect food; Haagen-Dazs coffee ice cream.
trifecta


Sticky Pudding isn't bad either.

Ben & Jerry's "Willy Nelson's Peach Cobbler" is also good.


GravatarAlthough I may agree, it's not worth a "Red Dwarf" paper hat war to settle it. -Flint, employed, annoyed,/i>

I could prove it using geometric logic but it would blow your fucking mind ... applesauce


GravatarAlthough I may agree, it's not worth a "Red Dwarf" paper hat war to settle it.
Flint, employed, annoyed


hey, i'm just trying to educate the uninformed, not start a war.


Gravatartrifecta is not a diabetic, I'm thinking.


GravatarThat Brad Pitts Trojan movie is on AMC. It must have sucked doing wars without computers and combat aircraft.
leibniz♘☮ | 03.09.08 - 3:45 pm | #

Even with Eric Bana that movie was nearly unwatchable.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins


I was too busy looking at Sean Bean (Odysseus).

But Eric Bana is hawt!


GravatarThat Brad Pitts Trojan movie is on AMC. It must have sucked doing wars without computers and combat aircraft.
leibniz♘☮


The In-Laws?

Serpentine! Serpentine!

Oh. West coast feed is different.


GravatarBush said McCain "won't flinch in the face of danger"

Be he will in the face of losing his seat in the Senate or an election.


GravatarWhy doesn't the Pope mount a strong campaign against pederasts?
George Johnston |

Im would avoid using "Pope", "Mount", and "Pederast" in the same sentance.

Lightning, you know....


GravatarIn re Antichrist -

i used to buy that story about the Antichrist being brilliant. i mean, he is the Devil's firstborn, and Satan is brilliant, right?

then i realized that Satan knew God was all knowing and all powerful, and that Satan would get his ass kicked, and he went on and rebelled anyway.

Satan is petulant, stubborn, stupid, and uncomfortable with facts. His only success comes from being powerful, not clever, and from the forebearance of others.

Got any clues who might qualify as Antichrist today?

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GravatarWhy doesn't the Pope mount a strong campaign against pederasts?

Cardinal Bernard Law advises him.


GravatarCaptain Queeg: Ahh, but the strawberries that's... that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with... geometric logic... that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I'd have produced that key if they hadn't of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers...


GravatarThe First Season of The Tudors is free On Demand.
In HD, even.


GravatarThat Brad Pitts Trojan movie is on AMC. It must have sucked doing wars without computers and combat aircraft.

What do you mean I have to fight covered in Wesson oil?


GravatarSatan is petulant, stubborn, stupid, and uncomfortable with facts. His only success comes from being powerful, not clever, and from the forebearance of others.

Got any clues who might qualify as Antichrist today?


Barack Hussein Obama.

Middle name is the giveaway.


GravatarEven with Eric Bana that movie was nearly unwatchable.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins


I was too busy looking at Sean Bean (Odysseus).

But Eric Bana is hawt!
Terry C, aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.09.08 - 3:56 pm |


I'd forgotten Boromir was in there. I got the dvd from the library and ended up fast-forwarding through a lot of it, so I may have missed some things.


GravatarTHIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!


GravatarMs. Jolie, your neeples must be ERECT is zis scene!


Gravatarbilly b
blues jam - hurry on over


GravatarThey wote the most pop tunes to chart Billboard, but they are not the best band. That's silly.
Hesiod


I once had someone argue, quite seriously, that Shania Twain was a better musician than Dave Brubeck bcause she was currently more popular.


GravatarGot any clues who might qualify as Antichrist today?

Barack Hussein Obama.

Middle name is the giveaway.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Believe it or not, I looked at the Obama "Yes We Can" video on YouTube.

There was actually some jerkoff in the comments section saying exactly that.

I couldn't resist telling him what a stupid ass he and his fellow rightards are.


GravatarGot any clues who might qualify as Antichrist today?

oh, hell, that's old news.


GravatarEven with Eric Bana that movie was nearly unwatchable.

Nah, just the parts w/Brad Pitt. He was awful in it.


GravatarBush said McCain "won't flinch in the face of danger"

Yes, but he has a spastic colon, so he'll be clenching for all four years.


GravatarIzzit Mutt Lange Shania married?


GravatarGot any clues who might qualify as Antichrist today?

Barack Hussein Obama.

Middle name is the giveaway.


We silly English kniggits can't outclevair you clevair French folk!

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GravatarThe First Season of The Tudors is free On Demand.
In HD, even.
plantsman, | Homepage | 03.09.08 - 3:58 pm |


I've got that on request from the library, 40th on the list, with another 100 or so behind. The library finally figured out it should buy more copies.


GravatarMs. Jolie, your neeples must be ERECT is zis scene!
plantsman,



Yes, and stick to what you know best - homewrecking and orphan collecting. STFU about the Iraq war.


Gravataranybody read 'non sequitor' today?

wiley is a golden god...


GravatarIzzit Mutt Lange Shania married?
plantsman, | Homepage | 03.09.08 - 4:01 pm |


Yes.


GravatarEven with Eric Bana that movie was nearly unwatchable.

Nah, just the parts w/Brad Pitt. He was awful in it.
Neponset


I was never impressed with Mr. Pitt.


GravatarI, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers... -Richard'

what, you don't believe that two like minded individuals can conceive something similar through wholly independent thought?


GravatarYes, and stick to what you know best - homewrecking and orphan collecting.

Whoa...


GravatarDouble Rainbow used to make the best ice cream ever: Blueberry Cheesecake.

Your flavor sucks.


GravatarThe First Season of The Tudors is free On Demand.
In HD, even.
plantsman



There's a lot of "teh sex" in that.

It's better done than I anticipated, but some of the historical errors were maddening.


GravatarEven with Eric Bana that movie was nearly unwatchable.

Nah, just the parts w/Brad Pitt. He was awful in it.
Neponset | 03.09.08 - 4:00 pm | #


Alas, he was in quite a bit of the movie.


GravatarBrad Pitt's butt became famous (in Thelma and Louise) before he did.


GravatarFokowi is here, and his presence reminds me to always ♥ the Al.


Gravatarwhat, you don't believe that two like minded individuals can conceive something similar through wholly independent thought?

That would be parallell evolution, and there's no such thing as evolution.
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GravatarThe In-Laws?

no, the remake. which surprisingly didn't totally suck.

but michael douglas is no peter faulk.


GravatarOK, kids, off to get my hair cut.

Then maybe mow the lawn, listening to spring training on the radio as I do so.

Or a nap. Whatever...


GravatarBrad Pitt's butt became famous (in Thelma and Louise) before he did.
plantsman,

He had a great future behind him.


GravatarIt's better done than I anticipated, but some of the historical errors were maddening.
attaturk


The way I felt about "Elizabeth" (199 with Cate Blanchett.

Some great acting, but SO many historical errors.


GravatarIt's better done than I anticipated, but some of the historical errors were maddening.
attaturk | Homepage | 03.09.08 - 4:03 pm |


Luckily, I don't know much about Henry of the Multiple Marriages. Although I'm pretty sure that as a young man he didn't look at all like Jonathan Rhys Meyers.


GravatarSatan is petulant, stubborn, stupid, and uncomfortable with facts. His only success comes from being powerful, not clever, and from the forebearance of others.
Got any clues who might qualify as Antichrist today?


Mother Teresa. The slut.


GravatarI was never impressed with Mr. Pitt.
Terry C, aka Hussein


fight club, seven and 12 monkeys were all good though.


Gravatar
The way I felt about "Elizabeth" (199 with Cate Blanchett.

Some great acting, but SO many historical errors.
Terry C,


You're right, both of the Kate Blanchett movies were rife with errors.

In fact, the errors are greater IMO then in "The Tudors"


GravatarWhats new in this joint?


Gravatarfight club, seven and 12 monkeys were all good though.
dirk gently


Surprisingly fun to watch in Snatch, too.


GravatarLuckily, I don't know much about Henry of the Multiple Marriages. Although I'm pretty sure that as a young man he didn't look at all like Jonathan Rhys Meyers.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins



From what I've read, Henry VIII had auburn hair, green eyes and pale skin.

And, supposedly, before he became gross, he was a good looking man - over six foot tall, which was tall for that time in history.


GravatarI was never impressed with Mr. Pitt.
Terry C, aka Hussein

fight club, seven and 12 monkeys were all good though.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Boy can act, sometimes they don't require him to.


GravatarWhats new in this joint?

Synovial fluid?


GravatarWhats new in this joint?
Barndog


dirk's being a asshat.


GravatarI heard Pitt is kind of dumb. The story I heard is that during indy movie days, he was half through shooting a movie, and decided a nice short haircut would be a good idea. The film makers were not amused.


GravatarThat was a gimmee. Spain isn't going back to the party that aligned itself with Bushito.


GravatarAlthough I'm pretty sure that as a young man he didn't look at all like Jonathan Rhys Meyers.
Buckeye


Henry VIII was actually considered attractive until well into his middle age when he hurt his leg jousting and started packing on the pounds.


GravatarA mail in primary?

What could possibly go wrong?


GravatarBarndog,

What's not new is in your inbox.


GravatarSurprisingly fun to watch in Snatch, too.

does this really need comment?

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Gravatarhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...ins- ruling.html

SPAIN UPDATED


GravatarYou're right, both of the Kate Blanchett movies were rife with errors.

In fact, the errors are greater IMO then in "The Tudors"
attaturk


I just saw the second one.

So many errors.


GravatarFokowi is here, and his presence reminds me to always ♥ the Al.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 03.09.08 - 4:03 pm |




branding is important. and for the record, so dak has a pop. density of 9.9 people per sq. mi.

plus, no one has ever said, conclusively, that i'm all there...


GravatarWhats new in this joint?
Barndog

dirk's being a asshat.
JR, kerosene and a match


that's not new.


GravatarSurprisingly fun to watch in Snatch, too.



"Snatch"

Guy Ritchie before Madonna got her hooks into him.


GravatarSatan is petulant, stubborn, stupid, and uncomfortable with facts. His only success comes from being powerful, not clever, and from the forebearance of others.
Got any clues who might qualify as Antichrist today?


does she play scrabble?


GravatarVicki - there isn't anything new in my inbox.


GravatarI just sent it, Barndog.


Gravatar
I just saw the second one.

So many errors.
Terry C


The HBO version with Helen Mirren was much more accurate...and obviously just as well acted.


GravatarBoy can act, sometimes they don't require him to.
Flint, employed, annoyed | 03.09.08 - 4:07 pm | #


well put. plus, they miscast him just to get box office draw.

worked so well in 'troy'


GravatarI heard Pitt is kind of dumb. The story I heard is that during indy movie days, he was half through shooting a movie, and decided a nice short haircut would be a good idea. The film makers were not amused.
trifecta | Homepage | 03.09.08 - 4:07 pm | #


Well, while I don't think he's the smartest person on the planet, in the interviews I've seen with he seems to have a developed a bit more common sense.


GravatarRefrains from inbox sexual metaphor.


Gravataraaaah, Europe, where the grownups elect Socialists to mind the store.


GravatarHenry VIII was actually considered attractive until well into his middle age when he hurt his leg jousting and started packing on the pounds.
attaturk


From what I've read, he had syphillis from playing around so much.

He hurt his leg and the VD prevented it from healing.

Before he was injured, he was very athletic. And, back when men's legs were celebrated, he had good ones!


GravatarWell, he does have male.


GravatarSurprisingly fun to watch in Snatch, too.
JR, kerosene and a match


i would agree ... if someone else had said it.


GravatarThe HBO version with Helen Mirren was much more accurate...and obviously just as well acted.
attaturk


LOVED that.

And Jeremy Irons co-starring as Sir Robert Dudley didn't hurt it.


GravatarGuy Ritchie before Madonna got her hooks into him.
Terry C, aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.09.08 - 4:08 pm


I think if Guy had wanted to say no to Madonna, he would have done so.


Gravatarspeaking of historical english royalty movies, i really liked 'the madness of king george'


Gravatarwhich was tall for that time in history.
Terry C


Tall for today, too.

But only average for his family.


GravatarFokowi is here, and his presence reminds me to always ♥ the Al.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |


Always ♥ the Al!


Gravatarwhich was tall for that time in history.
Terry C

Tall for today, too.

But only average for his family.
JR, kerosene and a match



His maternal grandfather, Edward IV, was well over six feet tall, too.

Another thing that makes me laugh is when they portray Katherine of Aragon as dark-haired, olive-skinned, etc.

Like her mother, Queen Isabella, she was fair-skinned and auburn-haired.


GravatarFrom what I've read, he had syphillis from playing around so much.


It's more likely to have been diabetes and gout.

Kinda hard to tell at this distance, but diabetes ran in the family.


Gravatarnon sequitor...


GravatarHis maternal grandfather, Edward IV, was well over six feet tall, too.

which one was 'longshanks?'


GravatarGuy Ritchie before Madonna got her hooks into him.
Terry C, aka Hussein | Homepage | 03.09.08 - 4:08 pm

I think if Guy had wanted to say no to Madonna, he would have done so.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins


So true.

What I meant was that the quality of his work has....shall we, diminished...since they married.


GravatarFrom what I've read, he had syphillis from playing around so much.

It's more likely to have been diabetes and gout.

Kinda hard to tell at this distance, but diabetes ran in the family.


i have also seen cases made for severe cardiovascualr disease, and for scrofula (non-lung tuberculosis).

Personal guess, arteriosclerosis, diabetic, gout, and the clap all in one package. it's good to be the king!

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Gravatarwhich one was 'longshanks?'
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Edward I (17 June 1239 – 7 July 1307).


And, yes, I googled that.


Gravatar
which one was 'longshanks?'
dirk gently


Edward I


GravatarPrince Charles was quite the looker until his inbred genes fucked him over.


Gravatarwhich one was 'longshanks?'
dirk gently


Edward I, different dynasty.


GravatarIt's more likely to have been diabetes and gout.

Kinda hard to tell at this distance, but diabetes ran in the family.
JR, kerosene and a match



A sore that doesn't heal,....you know, the diabetes theory makes more sense.

I think you're right.


Gravatar"The chief fund-raiser for House Republicans, Christopher J. Ward, appears to have stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars and disappeared. Ward had also been one of the key people involved in the swift boating of John Kerry. Kerry had no comment for reporters because he was uncontrollably laughing and high-fiving his staffers."

http://www.buzzflash.com/article...cles/peyser/ 806


GravatarEdward I, Longshanks

Edward II, red hot poker up the arse.


GravatarHey... it's almost 4:20.

Everyone got a minute?


Gravatarcrookshanks was hermione's cat.


GravatarSyphilis wasn't quite so widespread in Henry VII's time, being a new World disease and all.


GravatarPrince Charles was quite the looker until his inbred genes fucked him over.
leibniz♘☮



You know what, though.

He's kept himself in pretty good shape.

I love how Prince Andrew trashed the shit out of Bush a couple of months back. Andy looks a lot like Lord Mountbatten.


GravatarEdward I, Longshanks

arthur was only 5'4

and a drunk


GravatarEdward II, red hot poker up the arse.
attaturk


Pre-embalmed*

If you know which book that was from, I need to know the ISBN.


GravatarDoes anyone here know why some YouTube videos load slower?


GravatarSyphilis wasn't quite so widespread in Henry VII's time, being a new World disease and all.

Kings tend to get more and more varied action than Piers Ploughman.

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GravatarA sore that doesn't heal,....you know, the diabetes theory makes more sense.


I know someone v. well who suffers from that and it really makes me worry about him. He won't get it checked out, although he's been diagnosed as pre-diabetic. He won't get that checked out, either. You can lead a horse to water...yaddda yaddda.

I grew weary of harping to him about it. It's not my business, it's his, but still, he's a worthwhile person and deserves to live for a few more years.


GravatarThe chief fund-raiser for House Republicans, Christopher J. Ward, appears to have stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars and disappeared. Ward had also been one of the key people involved in the swift boating of John Kerry.



What goes around, comes around!


Gravatararthur was only 5'4
dirk gently


Well, he was only 15 when he died.


GravatarSyphilis:

Until that time, as Fracastoro notes, syphilis had been called the "French disease" in Italy and Germany, and the "Italian disease" in France. In addition, the Dutch called it the "Spanish disease", the Russians called it the "Polish disease", the Turks called it the "Christian disease" or "Frank disease" (frengi) and the Tahitians called it the "British disease"

heh.


GravatarWell, he was only 15 when he died.
JR, kerosene and a match


does liza minelli know?


GravatarKings tend to get more and more varied action than Piers Ploughman.

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Cynicus


True, but it still takes time for it to spread from the Spanish...


GravatarI know someone v. well who suffers from that and it really makes me worry about him. He won't get it checked out, although he's been diagnosed as pre-diabetic. He won't get that checked out, either. You can lead a horse to water...yaddda yaddda.

I grew weary of harping to him about it. It's not my business, it's his, but still, he's a worthwhile person and deserves to live for a few more years.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Sorry to hear that, Vicki.

And that disease has so many complications....you can go blind, suffer kidney failure, lose limbs to amputation.

You can't play around with that.


Gravatar"Does anyone here know why some YouTube videos load slower?"
--leibniz♘☮

Because they hate you.


GravatarSyphilis:

Until that time, as Fracastoro notes, syphilis had been called the "French disease" in Italy and Germany, and the "Italian disease" in France. In addition, the Dutch called it the "Spanish disease", the Russians called it the "Polish disease", the Turks called it the "Christian disease" or "Frank disease" (frengi) and the Tahitians called it the "British disease"



But today all parties refer to it as "Steve King"


Gravatararthur was only 5'4

Probably why Gwynivere cheated on him with that French d00d.

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GravatarYou can't play around with that.


So much of it - especially Type II - is preventable. We are too fat because we consume too much sugar.

Hate to say it, but that's the stark reality.


GravatarProbably why Gwynivere cheated on him with that French d00d.

they didn't call him 'lancealot' for nothing.

__/


Gravatararthur was only 5'4 and a drunk
dirk gently, sociopathetic


then you obvously are unfamiliar with Arthur 2 - On the Rocks: it's as sober as any unfunny movie can be ...


GravatarYou can't play around with that.


So much of it - especially Type II - is preventable. We are too fat because we consume too much sugar.

Hate to say it, but that's the stark reality.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I love how those eminent medical experts Penn and Teller did a whole show talking about how there IS no obesity problem in the US. It's just a hoax perpetrated by the medical community and diet industry.

I mean, what the hell would they know?


Gravatarfight club, seven and 12 monkeys were all good though.
dirk


I was quite amused to discover that he's more than just a pretty face and behind.


GravatarSyphilis:



The French called it "the English pox".


GravatarKings tend to get more and more varied action than Piers Ploughman.

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Cynicus

True, but it still takes time for it to spread from the Spanish...


how long you think it takes? the courts of Europe had ambassadors to each, mistresses were recruited from all over, sea trade was booming - and we're still talking over 50 years between Christoforo Columbu voyaging and Henry VIII's declining years......

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GravatarA man applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', he put down "Experience is not important. I have Judgement".

The interviewer said "This is not an entry level job. How do I know that you have Judgement?". The man answered, "I criticized the other applicants when they made mistakes, and I did it very eloquently." The interviewer said "That's nice, but this isn't an entry level job. Next!"


Gravatar"Lancealot" always makes me roar. For one, I dated a boy named "Lance Lancewicz" back in the late 70s. Bur for another, my sick, twisted mind comes up with "Lanceaboil."

Forgive me.


GravatarSo much of it - especially Type II - is preventable. We are too fat because we consume too much sugar.

Hate to say it, but that's the stark reality.
Vicki, Who ? Al Gore | 03.09.08 - 4:25 pm | #


that's why the South Beach diet works pretty well; low sugar.


GravatarI love how those eminent medical experts Penn and Teller did a whole show talking about how there IS no obesity problem in the US. It's just a hoax perpetrated by the medical community and diet industry.

Have they been in a Walmart lately?


Gravatarhow long you think it takes?

Something of a significant barrier between camp followers and courtesans.


Gravatarthat's why the South Beach diet works pretty well; low sugar.

Yes, but you can't drink copious amounts of alcohol on South Beach.



Gravatar"I got the dvd from the library"

Did you know that's EXACTLY like having to stand in line to get food in Soviet Russia?

It's true. A libertarian said so, and they know this stuff!

"Of course, if you want to get one of the more popular movies, you'll have to sign up on the waiting list several weeks in advance. It reminds me of Soviet breadlines."


Gravatar"So much of it - especially Type II - is preventable. We are too fat because we consume too much sugar.

Hate to say it, but that's the stark reality."
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

I've heard it isn't so much sugar (though there is that) as the high fructose corn syrup that has been substituted for sugar in all processed food products. Cheaper, you know.


GravatarIt's really a combo of high fructose corn syrup and industrial fats in processed foods that's making america fat.


GravatarAesop | 03.09.08 - 4:28 pm

That's a good one. Can you tell me the one about the tortoise and the hare next?


GravatarYeah, mer, you're right. I guess, in a broadbrush, I view high fructose corn syrup as sugar.


Gravatar[pssst]

fructose = simple sugar


GravatarIt's really a combo of high fructose corn syrup and industrial fats in processed foods that's making america fat.


And lack of basic exercise....


GravatarIf somebody thought giving me an inaccessible set screw which must be accessed was a good idea, please think again.


GravatarDon't forget the apparent inability of your average American to actually walk anywhere they can drive a vehicle.


GravatarAnd lack of basic exercise....


Speaking of which...I need to do that.


GravatarMy mousing finger is in great shape.


Gravatar"'ve got that on request from the library, 40th on the list, with another 100 or so behind."

See! JUST LIKE living under Stalin's bootheel!


GravatarIf somebody thought giving me an inaccessible set screw which must be accessed was a good idea, please think again.


That does make one crazy, auntie.


GravatarI love how those eminent medical experts Penn and Teller did a whole show talking about how there IS no obesity problem in the US. It's just a hoax perpetrated by the medical community and diet industry.

Have they been in a Walmart lately?
Cookie Fleck `08


I think that was the show's sponsor.


GravatarSeems like Claire McCatskill and Kathleen Sibelius are both auditioning to be Obama's VP.


GravatarSomething of a significant barrier between camp followers and courtesans.

Eh. Fun popular-history read : Sex With Kings, a look at royal mistresses and the sex habits of kings.

The existance of a distinction between up-against-the-alley-wall and court-of-Versailles mistress is irrelevant when kings will tap both.

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Gravatar"fructose = simple sugar"
--billy b

Your right, of course. But processed corn is not sugar cane.


GravatarCane me, bitches!


GravatarIf somebody thought giving me an inaccessible set screw which must be accessed was a good idea, please think again.
Barmpot Shouty-Crackers, PhD | 03.09.08 - 4:32 pm | #


all set screws are accessible. you merely need to rethink your approach...


Gravatarall set screws are accessible. you merely need a bigger hammer....

fumbled yr topography

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GravatarSeems like Claire McCatskill and Kathleen Sibelius are both auditioning to be Obama's VP.
Cookie Fleck `08



I kinda like Governor Schweitzer from Montana.


GravatarI've jumped into a sex conversation, I see.


I'll come back in an hour, when the subject will have turned to pee and Battlestar Galactica


Gravatarall set screws are accessible. you merely need to rethink your approach...
fokowi,

Thank you, Robert Pirsig.


GravatarBut processed corn is not sugar cane.
mer | 03.09.08 - 4:34 pm | #


corn allergies are becoming more common and can be a big problem. i'm not familiar with any sugar cane allergies.

fwiw


GravatarThe existance of a distinction between up-against-the-alley-wall and court-of-Versailles mistress is irrelevant when kings will tap both.

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Cynicus


When you're a king the doxies were a matter of taste, not necessity, and it would depend on said king having said tastes. Not all of them (or even, demonstrably, most of them).


GravatarAll the people were gathered together to judge the the knights who were fighting for the privilege of slaying the dragon.

One knight declared "I will be the best knight to slay the dragon because I will fight with Virtue." He started to fight with another knight, who sliced him on the arm. "But you are not supposed to attack me, because everybody knows I am supposed to fight the dragon!", he said. "Those ain't the rules,", said the other knight, and landed another blow. "That wasn't fair!", said the first knight. "All the people are the judges, and they won't send me if they don't think I fight fair.", said the second knight. "But you might hurt me, and then I won't be able to fight the dragon so well!, said the first knight. "If you can't survive a fight with me, buster, what makes you think you'll be able to slay the dragon?"


Gravatar"Cane me, bitches!"
--Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

With wet sugar kisses.


Gravatarall set screws are accessible. you merely need to rethink your approach...
fokowi,


The 2 ft screwdriver labelled "Mark IV Persuader"


GravatarWhen you're a king the doxies were a matter of taste, not necessity, and it would depend on said king having said tastes. Not all of them (or even, demonstrably, most of them).
JR, kerosene and a match


Most of those guys were pretty picky.

And they could afford to be.

If you don't HAVE to settle for just anything..........


GravatarSammy Cam........ Seder On Sunday

http://samsedershow.tv/sammy_cam.htm


GravatarSex discussion? I guess I missed it.


GravatarWith wet sugar kisses

I'd like to watch that.


GravatarWhen you're a king the doxies were a matter of taste, not necessity, and it would depend on said king having said tastes. Not all of them (or even, demonstrably, most of them).

Oy. Ok, no clap amongst European nobility.

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GravatarI lament that the Fabulous Feline of Inkiness, Monsieur Minuit de Les Chats, ˇEl Gato Nero!, has not joined this thread.

so.


Gravatarmer, you teh funny.



I'd let you kiss me.


Gravatar"Bozell Ignores Iraq War, Falsely Claims Clinton ‘Devastated’ The ‘Military Infrastructure’
In the Washington Post today, Brent Bozell, the president of the conservative Media Research Center, argues that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “may have the Beltway crowd in his corner, but grass-roots conservatives aren’t sold.” Claiming that McCain “is the one who arguably least qualifies as a Reagan conservative,” Bozell suggests ways that the Arizona senator can motivate the conservative movement.

But in making his argument, Bozell falsely claims that it was the Clinton administration, not the Bush administration, that created the current strains on the “military infrastructure“:"
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03...inton-military/


Gravatar"All the people are the judges, and they won't send me if they don't think I fight fair.", said the second knight. "But you might hurt me, and then I won't be able to fight the dragon so well!, said the first knight. "If you can't survive a fight with me, buster, what makes you think you'll be able to slay the dragon?"


....especially since it's known that dragons don't fight fair.


The End


GravatarOy. Ok, no clap amongst European nobility.

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Cynicus


More like "not much at that time"

All bets are off by the 18th century...


Gravatar10,000 B.C. - Fun, but not a whole lot of reality.


GravatarAesop | 03.09.08 - 4:28 pm

That's a good one. Can you tell me the one about the tortoise and the hare next?
sidhra صيذ&# | 03.09.08 - 4:31 pm | #
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Ok. The tortoise and the hare were having a race. The hare ran very quickly at first and opened up a lead. Him and all his friends told everybody that he had a big lead and the tortoise should just give up and get out of the race, because finishing it would just tire out the hare. Some other people pointed out that the hare only had about a 3.5% lead over the tortoise, anyway, and the race was not over. The hare and his friends started to complain that the tortoise was not playing fair.

While the hare and his friends were complaining, the tortoise kept on going and won the race. The End.

Does anybody else have any other requests?


Gravatar"Bozell Ignores Iraq War, Falsely Claims Clinton ‘Devastated’ The ‘Military Infrastructure’



THERE'S someone who needs help for his delusions.

When all else fails, blame Bill Clinton.


GravatarI know someone v. well who suffers from that and it really makes me worry about him. He won't get it checked out, although he's been diagnosed as pre-diabetic. He won't get that checked out, either. You can lead a horse to water...yaddda yaddda.

I grew weary of harping to him about it. It's not my business, it's his, but still, he's a worthwhile person and deserves to live for a few more years.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 03.09.08 - 4:22 pm |


Had an aquaintance who was extremely non-compliant as far as controlling his diabetes. Went in to have his foot amputated, coded 3 times during surgery, and never woke up (died 3 months later). All of this was preventable.


Gravatarit was the Clinton administration, not the Bush administration, that created the current strains on the “military infrastructure“:"

8 years gone, still responisble for everything wrong. they got to elect Hillary just to get more years of blaming a Clinton.

What it reminds me of most of all is how Joe Stalin blamed all the USSR's problems on Trotsky - even years after having Trotsky assassinated.

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Gravatar10,000 B.C. - Fun, but not a whole lot of reality.
Snow (D-SC)


well of course - the world didn't even exist for another 6000 years


GravatarG_D BLESS TEH LIZARD SPIT!

Just saying.


GravatarOy. Ok, no clap amongst European nobility.

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Cynicus




Plenty of it, I'm sure.


Gravatara guy with 3 testicles walks into a bar...

stop me if you've heard it.


GravatarDoes anybody else have any other requests?
Aesop | 03.09.08 - 4:42 pm | #


the fox, the crane, the jug and the pebbles.


GravatarI'm watching a hilarious scene out of my window right now. Both my dogs are on their leads in the backyard, but two puppies, well probably 7-8 months old, have come up the hill to visit. Everybody is sniffing noses and butts. Too funny.


GravatarHow about the one with the fox and the grapes, Aesop?


GravatarA termite walks into a bar...


Gravatar10,000 B.C. - Fun, but not a whole lot of reality.
Snow (D-SC)

well of course - the world didn't even exist for another 6000 years


Created between 9 and 10 AM, October 23, 4004 BC / Archbishop Ussher.

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Gravatar10,000 B.C. - Fun, but not a whole lot of reality.
Snow (D-SC)


"It's a popcorn movie... you can get up in the middle of the movie, stand in a nice long line to get popcorn, and be assured that you aren't missing anything."

The same reviewer compared it unfavourably to Uwe Boll's corpus.


GravatarPlenty of it, I'm sure.



Monarchs and gods don't get sick.


GravatarI just interviewed a group of Pediatricians last week. One reason why pediatricians tend to be happier? Their patients are almost always compliant.

Internal medicine doctors struggle with non-compliance issues. Hell, my doc wants me on anti-depressants and I refuse to take them, so I'm non-compliant. I hate anti-depressants, and I think I need a new doc.


GravatarEverybody is sniffing noses and butts. Too funny.
mer | 03.09.08 - 4:44 pm | #


everybody? or just the dogs?


Gravatar"Had an aquaintance who was extremely non-compliant as far as controlling his diabetes. Went in to have his foot amputated, coded 3 times during surgery, and never woke up (died 3 months later). All of this was preventable."

Which is why I'm taking my pills, watching what I eat, cutting down and eliminating as I can, certain foods, and walking at least 10 miles or so every week. (the 3 mile round trip to the supermarket 3 times a week helps a lot!) Oh, and losing weight slowly, the better to keep it off


Gravatara guy with 3 testicles walks into a bar...


You tellin' that joke about NTodd again?


Gravatar
all set screws are accessible. you merely need to rethink your approach...


Yewd be amazed what a pair of mosaic tile clippers can do.  Those suckers are strong!


GravatarOne reason why pediatricians tend to be happier? Their patients are almost always compliant.

Another is that they tend to get well. Fewer chronic diseases.

much harder to lose one, though.

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GravatarYou tellin' that joke about NTodd again?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 03.09.08 - 4:46 pm | #


who's NTodd?


GravatarFewer chronic diseases.



Well, that too. That's what the practice manager said.

But many (adults) who suffer from chronic diseases are noncompliant.


GravatarThe same reviewer compared it unfavourably to Uwe Boll's corpus.

It was the rise of the West against the great threat from the Middle East. Leni would have been so proud.


GravatarMonarchs and gods don't get sick.
Henry Flower


Not often from newly introduced diseases... that was the point. That particular STD was new to Europe.

Robert the Bruse had leprosy, not syphilis, as well.

Let's call this the 10,000 BC school of epidemiology.


GravatarInternal medicine doctors struggle with non-compliance issues. Hell, my doc wants me on anti-depressants and I refuse to take them, so I'm non-compliant. I hate anti-depressants, and I think I need a new doc.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 03.09.08 - 4:45 pm |


The folks at work who deal in patient education, it's a battle to get the patients to understand that no, this diet isn't 'fun'. But it should help keep you alive. And some people do not want to change their diet, and do not want to face the possibility that their diet may hasten their death.


GravatarI know I'm compliant when it comes to my disease. It all depends on how fast I want to end up in a wheelchair.

There isn't much other option.


GravatarMonarchs and gods don't get sick.
Henry Flower



From what I've read, anytime a plague broke out, they got the king outta Dodge.


GravatarNot often from newly introduced diseases... that was the point. That particular STD was new to Europe.

1347: Yersina pestis introduced to Europe.

1822: First highborn death of the Black Plague.

Yup, got it.

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GravatarBarndog, Good on you.

The biggest negative in my diet is my love of Sicilian pasta dishes.

I am trying to curb that, though.


GravatarRobert the Bruse had leprosy

let's not start that again.


Gravatar"I just interviewed a group of Pediatricians last week. One reason why pediatricians tend to be happier? Their patients are almost always compliant."
--Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

When my daughter was 2-1/2 (26 years ago), she had a urinary tract infection. The pediatrician said she had to go into the hospital for observation. I said, wtf? in so many words. He told me so he wouldn't get sued if something happened to her if she didn't.

I said, I'll not sue, just give her some antibiotics. She was fine.


GravatarA woman applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', she put down "My experience is more important than good judgment".

The interviewer said "This is not an entry level job. How do I know that you have Experience?". The woman answered, "I criticized the other applicants good judgment, and I did it very eloquently." The interviewer said "That's nice, but this isn't an entry level job. Next!"


GravatarDoes anybody else have any other requests?
Aesop

Yes, stop it, please.


GravatarThe biggest negative in my diet is my love of Sicilian pasta dishes

So, the wife makes stuffed shells last night. I tried not to gorge myself.

Seriously.


Gravatar"Had an aquaintance who was extremely non-compliant as far as controlling his diabetes. Went in to have his foot amputated, coded 3 times during surgery, and never woke up (died 3 months later). All of this was preventable."

Which is why I'm taking my pills, watching what I eat, cutting down and eliminating as I can, certain foods, and walking at least 10 miles or so every week. (the 3 mile round trip to the supermarket 3 times a week helps a lot!) Oh, and losing weight slowly, the better to keep it off
Chris Tucker | Homepage | 03.09.08 - 4:46 pm |


I'm guilty of having a bad diet, as well. I used to eat really quite healthily.

But I need to go back to that, the way I ate in the late 80's and early 90's, because I'm not that young anymore, and to start really paying attention.


GravatarNot often from newly introduced diseases... that was the point. That particular STD was new to Europe.



The point I was making obtusely I guess is that the peasants believe that monarchs are gods who are not subject to human vulnerabilities.


Gravatar"everybody? or just the dogs?"
--dirk gently,

I'm going outside in a minute, I'll let you know.


GravatarCreated between 9 and 10 AM, October 23, 4004 BC / Archbishop Ussher.

9:30, to be exact.


GravatarRobert the Bruse had leprosy

And Marcel Proust had an haddock.


GravatarOne hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I only lost because of unfair tactics."


GravatarI've always associated Proust with madeleines.
But that's just me.


GravatarI know I'm compliant when it comes to my disease. It all depends on how fast I want to end up in a wheelchair.

There isn't much other option.
Barndog, here fishy, fishy | 03.09.08 - 4:50 pm


My boss had a heart 6 years ago, at 48. She's really compliant on that diet. Lost 45 lbs, and has kept it off.


GravatarGod, there are freaks on the innertubes. I have come to understand that this is part of the Zen wherein I inhabit.


Gravatar"The folks at work who deal in patient education, it's a battle to get the patients to understand that no, this diet isn't 'fun'."
--Buckeye,

But really, if people would start cooking in their kitchens again, instead of eating restaurant food, they would be so much healthier.


GravatarThe point I was making obtusely I guess is that the peasants believe that monarchs are gods who are not subject to human vulnerabilities.

Higher socioeconomic status maximizes the factors that help resistance. but it doesn't make for immunity. Hence, the highborns eventually do get what we low class peeples get.

and about the time they do, the disease moves from "God's judgement on the wicked and base" to "an unavoidable and tragic accident".

but yes, there was even a mediaeval belief in "the King's Touch" in which the king could put hands on you, like Jesus, and cure disease (often scrofula).

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Gravatar1347: Yersina pestis introduced to Europe.

1822: First highborn death of the Black Plague.


Interesting way to look at that:


the outbreak of the 14th century was the Second Pandemic.

The outbreak of the 19th centruy was the Third Pandemic.

So, technicaly, it wasn't even the same epidemic.


GravatarA man applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', he put down "I've been a lying corrupt asshole my whole life, just like the guy I'll be replacing".


GravatarI meant to add, it tastes so much better too.


GravatarOne hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes

hey, i asked first.
what a gype.


GravatarOne hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I only lost because it was a caucus, or a state that doesn't count, or because Jesse Jackson won it, or because people just don't realize that experience is more important than good judgment."


GravatarI guess is that the peasants believe that monarchs are gods who are not subject to human vulnerabilities.
Henry Flower


It would depend on where and when. The idea tht the whole of Europe was homogenous for centuries is kida... odd. Promoted by Hollywood, but odd.


GravatarA man applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', he put down "Messiah, just like the guy I'll be replacing".


GravatarA man applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', he put down "I've been a lying corrupt asshole my whole life, just like the guy I'll be replacing".

And so George Bush called up his friend Pamela Harriman and she helped raise money for the applicant's successful presidential run in 1992.


Gravatar1347: Yersina pestis introduced to Europe.

It's not certain that the 14th century BD was in fact yersina pestis.
It may have been a different strain or even something completely different that hasn't recurred since.


GravatarA man applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', he put down "I've been a lying corrupt asshole my whole life, just like the guy I'll be replacing".

The HR person smiled, stood up, extended his hand, and said "Welcome aboard Mr. Cheney!"


Gravatar Aesop | 03.09.08 - 4:56 pm |

Where's your son? I love his pithy little comments after the moral!


GravatarBut really, if people would start cooking in their kitchens again, instead of eating restaurant food, they would be so much healthier.
mer


So true. Unfortunately, a lot of Americans equate healthy eating w/processed and packaged diet food or giving up entire food groups.


GravatarSo, technicaly, it wasn't even the same epidemic.

And technically, nobles and royals ded in the pass of 1347. i was clumsily being a smart-arse.

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GravatarIt may have been a different strain or even something completely different that hasn't recurred since.
Sufferin' Succotash


GravatarOne hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. So he called up his army and invaded the farm, killed the farmer and his family and took all the grapes for himself. "Well, I deserve it," quothe he. "So fuck you."


GravatarFox, Crane, Jug, Pebbles
One version:
At one time the Fox and the Stork were on visiting terms and seemed very good friends. So the Fox invited the Stork to dinner, and for a joke put nothing before her but some soup in a very shallow dish. This the Fox could easily lap up, but the Stork could only wet the end of her long bill in it, and left the meal as hungry as when she began.

"I am sorry," said the Fox, "the soup is not to your liking."

"Pray do not apologize," said the Stork. "I hope you will return this visit, and come and dine with me soon."

So a day was appointed when the Fox should visit the Stork; but when they were seated at table all that was for their dinner was contained in a very long-necked jar with a narrow mouth, in which the Fox could not insert his snout, so all he could manage to do was to lick the inside of the jar.

"I will not apologize for the dinner," said the Stork:


Another version:
At one time the Fox and the Stork were on visiting terms and seemed very good friends. So the Fox invited the Stork to dinner, and for a joke put nothing before her but some soup in a very shallow dish. This the Fox could easily lap up, but the Stork could only wet the end of her long bill in it, and left the meal as hungry as when she began.

"I am sorry," said the Fox, "the soup is not to your liking."

"This is really unfar," said the Stork. "If you don't stop, I am going to really really complain a lot."

The moral of the story is that Storks would do better to get even rather than get mad.


GravatarA man applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', he put down "Life!"

And that's how Mike Nesmith made it into the Monkees...


Gravatar
But many (adults) who suffer from chronic diseases are noncompliant.


Gee - now why might that be?  Just, for instance - diabetes.  You have any idea how expensive it is for a diabetic to be compliant?  Even with insurance?  Compliant diets?  Diets are not covered by insurance.  Medicine?  Most diabetes medication, other than insulin, is not only wildly expensive, the side effects are both deleterious and, mostly, only postpone the issue.  You know what one of the most common contributing causes is to metabolic illness of almost every kind?  Stress.  Anybody ensuring people at the point of metabolic collapse thru longterm stress that they can comply with the prescription to 'relax'? That's just diabetes, one of the most commonplace of chronic illnesses in this country.  I really enjoy the concept of 'compliance' - if a doctor wants me to be compliant then perhaps he should ensure that what he wants me to do is something I can both afford to do and have some confidence in doing will provide respite, if not remedy.

Pfui.


GravatarI blame simels

It may have been a different strain or even something completely different that hasn't recurred since.
Sufferin' Succotash


Except for the Y pestis DNA found in the victims....

No, it was not the only agent of mortality, but it was the driving one behind the "Great Pestilence"


GravatarAnd so George Bush called up his friend Pamela Harriman and she helped raise money for the applicant's successful presidential run in 1992.
Ćsop | 03.09.08 - 5:00 pm | #


you aren't very good at this, are you?


GravatarAgain and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I only lost because of media bias, if you don't believe me, watch saturday night live."


GravatarA woman applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', she put down "My experience is more important than good judgment".

The interviewer said "This is not an entry level job. How do I know that you have Experience?". The woman answered, "I criticized the other applicants good judgment, and I did it very eloquently." The interviewer said "That's nice, but this isn't an entry level job. Next!"
Grimm | 03.09.08 - 4:53 pm | #
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Doesn't work very well when you try to turn it around, does it? The applicant here cites experience, so the punch line no longer matches up.


GravatarIt would depend on where and when. The idea tht the whole of Europe was homogenous for centuries is kida... odd. Promoted by Hollywood, but odd.


Well, not in South America obviously. My point is about what peasants believe, what archetypes are operating, and not about epidemiology.


GravatarThe Stork said she and the Fox both have experience, and all the Rabbit has is good judgment.

The Rabbit smiled and thought to himself, "Sucks to be you, Stork."


GravatarA man applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', he put down "I've been a lying corrupt asshole my whole life, just like the guy I'll be replacing".
dirk gently, sociopathetic


The job being applied for was head of the Republican National Committee.


GravatarI'm finishing up a biography of Marie Antoinette. Never thought I'd find her story incredibly heartbreaking.


Gravatar I really enjoy the concept of 'compliance' - if a doctor wants me to be compliant then perhaps he should ensure that what he wants me to do is something I can both afford to do and have some confidence in doing will provide respite, if not remedy.


I agree with you 100%. It's frustrating; it's a double-binded, damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.

As I said, I'm non-compliant because I refuse to take Effexor. I'm not depressed, dammit! I have anxiety problems from time to time. Work with me to rid those; a pill is but a mere bandaid on an underlying issue.


GravatarMy point is about what peasants believe, what archetypes are operating,
Henry Flower


And that's what I was saying. It's not homogenous over the entire area and timeframe.

No one, absolutely no one, even suggested that Eric Bloodaxe was appointed by any divinity.


Gravatarooo, what a charming veneer we've pasted over the usual high school level insults...


GravatarI've always associated Proust with madeleines.

Yes. Line from a Python skit. Eric the Half Bee. Dreadfully sorry.


GravatarSo the county party convention was held yesterday. 4 hours. During the introduction of one speaker the attendees were told to hiss if someone's name were mentions. That was the only mention of the name. The front page of today's newspapers titles the story of the convention as :Hiss bombing the call of the day as Democrats gather.

Not one mention of any of the candidates for office who spoke at the convention. Not one. And I think I referred to my opponent as the incompetent rather than incumbent.


GravatarDoesn't work very well when you try to turn it around, does it? The applicant here cites experience, so the punch line no longer matches up.

Um......



A woman applied for a job and filled out the job application. Under 'Experience', she put down "My experience is more important than good judgment".

The interviewer said "This is not an entry level job. How do I know that you have Experience?". The woman answered, "I watched my husband do it, and I did it very carefully." The interviewer said "That's nice, but this isn't an entry level job. Next!"

She's got more than the average electee, but i'm not sure there's anything on Earth that can prepare you to really be the US President.

IOW, quit with the 'experience' shite and let us talk policy.

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GravatarNoncompliance:

Doctor: "you have diabetes, you'll have to get used to it"

My friend, the patient "I'm a 54 year old steelworker, it had better get used to me."


GravatarFox, Crane, Jug, Pebbles

that's the wrong one. it has no pebbles.

it goes like this:

once upon a time there was a fox named pebbles whose father operate a crane. she had great jugs. 6,000 years later, george w bush stole the presidential election and committed horrendous war crimes. he should be prosecuted and convicted.


GravatarIt's not homogenous over the entire area and timeframe.



Joseph Campbell, Transformations of Myth Through Time.

Or you could just struggle with Jung if you have a lifetime to invest.


GravatarAs I said, I'm non-compliant because I refuse to take Effexor. I'm not depressed, dammit! I have anxiety problems from time to time. Work with me to rid those; a pill is but a mere bandaid on an underlying issue.

You should talk to my lovely wife about this. She had similar problems, and was offered similar solutions, but she figured another way out of it.

Of course, there are plenty of people who DO need such treatment...


GravatarAll right...

Must keep commitment to self to walk.

Later.


GravatarYou Will Comply!!!!


Gravatar"Pfui."

--Barmpot Shouty-Crackers, PhD



The ship sailed right into my bank account, well it will tomorrow. I'll have another check to you in the next day or two.


GravatarOr you could just struggle with Jung if you have a lifetime to invest.
Henry Flower


I'm not that Jung.


GravatarIOW, quit with the 'experience' shite and let us talk policy.
Cynicus | 03.09.08 - 5:07 pm | #


A man tried to find out the differences between the policies proposed by two political candidates. He couldn't. The End.


GravatarYou should talk to my lovely wife about this. She had similar problems, and was offered similar solutions, but she figured another way out of it.


I will mention that to her next time I hear from her.

Hope that's okay. The anti-depressants have loopy side-effects for me, not to mention that they fuck with your libido.


GravatarJust WHY THE FUCK does atrios.blogspot.com work, while www.atrios.blogspot.com does not?


GravatarOf course, there are plenty of people who DO need such treatment...




in the future, pills are all there will be.

forget the talking cure, too expensive and time consuming


GravatarNo one, absolutely no one, even suggested that Eric Bloodaxe was appointed by any divinity.

the Brit royals trace their lines back to Norsemen who trace their lineage back to Odin. In fact, most of the Scandihoovians and Germanics who roared across Western Europe in the 400's-900's cobbled together lineages back to the Norse gods.

Does that count?

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GravatarThe talking cure is important, imho.

Pills are not a fix for everything.


GravatarThe anti-depressants have loopy side-effects for me, not to mention that they fuck with your libido.

Yeah, she had the same problem (with loopiness - can't say about the libido!).


GravatarJust WHY THE FUCK does atrios.blogspot.com work, while www.atrios.blogspot.com does not?
Adam Hominem, Vaginista

The great ones don't require a prefix.


Gravatarin the future, pills are all there will be.

forget the talking cure, too expensive and time consuming
Henry Flower


Gravatarin the future, pills are all there will be.

forget the talking cure, too expensive and time consuming
Henry Flower


Oh, we're already there. Trust me.


GravatarAfternoon, all.

Been out taking the air here in the Paris of the Tri-State Metropolitan Area.

Anything irksome going on, etc?


GravatarDoes that count?

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Cynicus


Not for Eric. "Bloodaxe" is pretty accurate.


GravatarDave, when I was on a cocktail of Celexa, Wellbutrin, and Trazedone, I backed into my garage door before it was all the way up 3 times. Does America really want her citizens driving around on all those medications?


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The great ones don't require a prefix.
Anthony McCarthy


As good a reason as any.


Gravatarin the future, pills are all there will be.

You'll pick your son - pick your daughter, too - from the bottom of a long glass tube.

Whoa whoa...


GravatarI'm not that Jung.

:D

Same here. My archetypritis makes it hard to keep up with all my old Freunds.


GravatarAnything irksome going on, etc?

I was just saying how irksome my local fishwrap is being.


GravatarI'm finishing up a biography of Marie Antoinette. Never thought I'd find her story incredibly heartbreaking.
Cookie Fleck `08



I read Lady Antonia Fraser's bio of Marie Antoinette a few years ago.

Quite good.


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Whoa whoa...
dave™©


In the year 2008 doesn't go, tho.


GravatarA man tried to find out the differences between the policies proposed by two political candidates. He couldn't. The End.

Probably because policy discussion was drowned out by snarky discourse on 'experience' by oh-so-clevair-folk.

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GravatarA man tried to find out the differences between the maunderings of one tedious troll-bot and another. He couldn't. The End.


Gravatar... hash... speed... pills... loose joints...

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Gravatarwhen I was on a cocktail of Celexa, Wellbutrin, and Trazedone...

Good Lord!

Who ARE you - Brian Wilson???


GravatarFox, Crane, Jug, Pebbles

I got a spam last year that offered to make it so big I'd need a crane to lift it. I didn't follow up, couldn't understand how it would be a benefit. I'd never get the dishes done. Besides buying the shellfish to feed the crane would have bankrupted me.


GravatarCan you call sheets if you are still in bed?


GravatarYou'll pick your son - pick your daughter, too - from the bottom of a long glass tube.



and grow therm in artificial wombs on hydroponic baby farms.

whoa whoa

doesn't scan, but that doesn't mean it won't happen


GravatarDoes America really want her citizens driving around on all those medications?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


Yep - makes them easier to control.


Gravatar"they fuck with your libido"

Interesting choice of words!


GravatarCuz' I'm callin 'em!


GravatarI'm finishing up a biography of Marie Antoinette. Never thought I'd find her story incredibly heartbreaking.
Cookie Fleck `08


I once read a review of a biography of Pat Nixon once that made her seem admirable.


GravatarWho ARE you - Brian Wilson???

No, I just had my doctor prescribe one for depression, then one to help me lose weight (Wellbutrin), and then one to help me sleep (Trazedone).

What a bunch of bullshit. I hated it.

That's why I'm clean and sober from prescription medicine right now.


Gravatar"Does America really want her citizens driving around on all those medications?"

Yep - makes them easier to control.


See "THX-1138".

Medicine cabinet: "What's wrong?"


GravatarDave, when I was on a cocktail of Celexa, Wellbutrin, and Trazedone, I backed into my garage door before it was all the way up 3 times. Does America really want her citizens driving around on all those medications?

Vicki, consider that the US Army is medicating soldiers on Prozac and all the things you list, to keep them field-functional.

Driving around? Try "operating artillery"

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Gravatar
and grow therm in artificial wombs on hydroponic baby farms.


'56 Invasion of the Body Snatchers 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=G...feature=related


Gravatar dirk gently, sociopathetic

Pretty damned funny.

WTF is going on in here? Some kind of SCA trollfest?


GravatarDoes America really want her citizens driving around on all those medications?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


We need more heavily armed drunk people.


GravatarWTF is going on in here? Some kind of SCA trollfest?
V for Virginia


Best to ignore.

If it gets too bad, I'm switching to Firefox and using killfile.


GravatarSpain Results

José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero wins! -- VIVA ZAPATERO!

In Spain they likey the lefty guy!

Maybe the Spanish learned a thing or two from all those years of fascist rule under Franco. The Spanish also showed great wisdom when they ousted right-wing Bush-pal José María Aznar in favor Zapatero in 2004.

Perhaps, we Americans should take a page from the Spanish political playbook.

We need an American Socialist Party -- based upon the intelligent, moral, ethical, communitarian, compassionate, egalitarian "people first" socialism espoused by Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT).

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GravatarNo, I just had my doctor prescribe one for depression, then one to help me lose weight (Wellbutrin), and then one to help me sleep (Trazedone).

It's just amazing to me, who thankfully doesn't have any of those problems (well, maybe the weight thing), to hear what reputable doctors prescribe.

If you ARE Brian Wilson, or someone suffering from bipolar disorder, these newer drugs are an absolute God-send that allow you to live a near-normal life. But for people suffering from somewhat-mild anxiety or depression to be on three different ones? Seems a bit excessive on the doctor's part...


GravatarThe anti-depressants have loopy side-effects for me, not to mention that they fuck with your libido.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore


I wound up on Zoloft for six months in 1998 after my ex decided to take a hike.

Happily, the only side effect I got from it was dry mouth.

It kept me functioning.


Gravatarhttp://www.popsci.com/scitech/ar...rtificial- wombs


artificial wombs


GravatarComing soon to a classroom near you...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ ar...DASMUSSENBR.DTL


GravatarVicki, any doctor who would prescribe all three of those medicines for the same person to take at the same time should probably consider re-education.


Doctor: "you have diabetes, you'll have to get used to it"

The very definition of the cause of 'non-compliance'.  Perhaps that doctor would like to "get used to it" for your friend instead.
 


Gravatar
If you ARE Brian Wilson, or someone suffering from bipolar disorder, these newer drugs are an absolute God-send that allow you to live a near-normal life.


A colleague of mine is a good example of that. Without medication, that person suffers from psychosis and delusions amongst other problems. Mightmarish stuff.


GravatarDriving around? Try "operating artillery"


GravatarDamn slanties. I had a hilarious rsponse to that typed.

Driving around? Try "operating artillery"

Operating artillery (as in setting the deflection and elevation (to determine the direction) and charge (to determine the distance) and then pulling the lanyard to get that satisfying "boom!" sound) is not that difficult.

Determining what the deflection, elevation, and charge should be so the satsifying "boom!" actually delivers high explosive to the exact spot where it will do the most good is another matter entirely.


Gravatarjust a pedantic note here, zapatero didnt have a majority in the last term, and he didnt win a majority yesterday. he won a plurality both times, and the socialists increased their number of seats in the spanish congress to 169 out of 350, from 164 in the past four years.


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