I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarATRIOS!!!! *shakes fist*


GravatarIs there a primary season coming up?


GravatarZero comments?


GravatarDamn you TKK!!!!!!


GravatarMr Roboto?

I want my personal robot now!


Gravatarbonsoir!

oh, what horrible music


GravatarTurn on c-span, have a drink, and allow yourself to see what's happening in America right now.

If you were to work a little condescension into your post, you'd get a bigger response.


Gravatar


GravatarHere's one for the credit where credit is due file. Jimmy Cramer extols the virtues of regulation and progressive taxation.

http://www.bucknell.edu/x40027.xml

Sorry, but no ethanol for the biofuels-bitches crowd.


GravatarSo, the Mittster is toast and McCain is the anointed one. And the Dems will form their circular firing squad until the convention produces our nominee. Of course, the wingers will never figure out that the bickering is a clever ruse and they are even now falling into our clever trap.....did I say that out loud?


GravatarHave we left the trools and Hillary-haters behind?

Jeezus. Enough is enough!


GravatarNot only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...


GravatarKenosha!!



GravatarTurn on the dog show on Animal Planet. The sheer cuteness will slay you. I missed the first showing EST. No spoilers on the winner please.


Gravataroh, dude.

Styx?

Have you no shame?


GravatarTurn on the dog show on Animal Planet. The sheer cuteness will slay you. I missed the first showing EST. No spoilers on the winner please.
candymarl


I watched the earlier broadcast.

I won't spoil it, but you will be surprised.


GravatarThank you very mucha Mr. Roboto


GravatarTommy Shaw looks like a gurl.


GravatarStyx?

Have you no shame?


Could be worse. He could have posted "Lady".


Gravatar(º)(º)


GravatarHey AT least it wasn't Starship


GravatarHave you no shame?

It would appear not.


Gravataroh, dude.

Styx?

Have you no shame?


None.

And he is still keeping teh atri-kitties hostage.

wanker


FREE THE ATRIOS TWO!!


GravatarYuck. I can't even like this ironically.


Gravatar
Could be worse. He could have posted "Lady".


Come sail away...


GravatarBOOBIES!


Gravatar"Come sail Away", Bitches


GravatarDennis DeYoung - gaiiiiii!


GravatarVideos such as this should remove all doubt as to what Atrios thinks of us.


GravatarI owe Watertiger a "Come Sail Away"coke


GravatarCome sail away...

:rocket: :rocket: :rocket:


Gravatarhey olexicon! you didn't freeze to death this last week?


GravatarDennis DeYoung - gaiiiiii!

Not that there's anything wrong with...oh who am I kidding?


GravatarVideos such as this should remove all doubt as to what Atrios thinks of us.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


That we will mock this deep into the night?


GravatarTerry, is it possible to prefer Obama for the nomination and not be a Hillary-hater?


GravatarAtrios is a smart guy. He likes v. weird music.

There's lots of poetry at my homepage in honor of the Goddess Brigid.


GravatarI feel this is appropriate.


Really, just fast forward to the last 15 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G...h?v=GNv6- HlMVuw


GravatarWas the entire previous thread as... *whatever*... as the last several comments?


Gravataryou didn't freeze to death this last week?
plum p,better democrats please


Nope, but my car did freeze shut for three consecutive mornings


GravatarHecate, a blessed St. Brighid's Day to you.


GravatarThank you very mucha Mr. Roboto olexicon

I set up a table for you


Gravatarbonsoir!

oh, what horrible music
plum p,better democrats please

Tonight, because we received a gift card worth $75 and that is a considerable sum of money, we actually went to a local steak house. It is a chain restaurant called Texas Road House. We had steaks. The steaks were excellent.

But they made us listen to this horrendous caterwauling that was too loud, too stupid, and too annoying to ignore. I believe it was called country music but it sounded like nothing that has ever been played through anything I have ever owned so it is hard to say.

Honestly, I could take it for only so long until I really did want to kick some ass. . . (I think it was the song that talked about a tear in his fucking beer. Someone should have told these people that just because two words are minimal pairs does not mean that they should be used together.)


GravatarTerry, is it possible to prefer Obama for the nomination and not be a Hillary-hater?
SteveLG


I'm talking about the sexist comments from certain parties.

Who WERE some of those idiots down there?

Women should have stopped hoping back in 1969?

What the fuck kind of bullshit is THAT?


GravatarTerry C, why, Republican bullshit, of course.


Gravatari've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...

The Dubai Desert Classic?


GravatarTerry C, why, Republican bullshit, of course.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Absolutely.


GravatarThe infliction of Freddy Fender on diners is grounds for justifiable homicide...take out whoever you need to DWD, it's on the house.


GravatarCertain parties seem to be obssessed with trolls.


GravatarNot only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...
ProfWombat

There actually was one this evening. Seems the Boston Bruins cannot skate with the Wings. 3-1 was the final.


GravatarCertain parties seem to be obssessed with trolls.

That's an odd statement.


GravatarTerry, is it possible to prefer Obama for the nomination and not be a Hillary-hater?

Yes.


I don't hate her at all- I like her quite a bit, but I'm still leaning towards Obama.


Gravatar"But they made us listen to this horrendous caterwauling that was too loud, too stupid, and too annoying to ignore. I believe it was called country music but it sounded like nothing that has ever been played through anything I have ever owned so it is hard to say."


Toby Keith and Charlie Daniels?


GravatarCertain parties seem to be obssessed with trolls.
Mr French


Y'think?


GravatarCertain parties seem to be obssessed with trolls.

Oh, you've met NTodd, I see.


GravatarU can haz plushy girl kittehs:

http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...t- closeups.html


GravatarThat's an odd statement.

It's true.


GravatarKilroy Was Here...

Worst Styx album ever, at least from the classic lineup.


Gravatari've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...




The pee wee hockey final of the Quill Plains Winter Games?


Gravatarand Le Canadiens won 4-1 vs the Islanders today. Tomorrow, they'll beat the Rangers as well.


GravatarI don't want Hillary to be the President, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't do very well in that job.

With all of her baggage, I will gladly vote for her over anyone still shameless enough to caal themselves a Republican


GravatarHecate, a blessed St. Brighid's Day to you.

Thank you v. much! Had a house full of witches and a lovely ritual and dinner and Pagans all over the blogsphere are posting poetry as part of an annual poetry slam so I am almost drunk on poetry.


GravatarWomen should have stopped hoping back in 1969?

Yes. You had a chance, you burned your bra, now fetch me a fucking eclair.


GravatarThere was a shooting in Tinley Park, Illinois today, actually a robbery/murder scene. It wasn't too far from where I used to live.


GravatarNot only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...

ProfWombat

Which you, no doubt, will be glued to.  So we'll have to enjoy our Calvados, fire, Chinese pastry, and a fluffy blanket tonight.


GravatarI don't hate her at all- I like her quite a bit, but I'm still leaning towards Obama

Today I beeped at Hillary people holdiing signs and waved at an Obama guy smiling broadly - Mr. Jill was confused. I'm still on the fence - MA will likely go to Hillary no matter what.


GravatarNot only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...


So who are the Yankees playing?
*ducks and runs out of room*


GravatarTKS Terry C. I'm a dog show junkie.


GravatarNot only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...

ProfWombat

Nobody's talking about that here in NYC...


Gravatarsallyh!

Not glued, but I'll be checking in. And ya gotta have a sense of priorities about this stuff. I'll be right over. Just give me a few minutes to charge up the electrogravitics...


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?


Gravatar"tear in the beer" sounds like that manufactured 'duet' of Hank Williams sr & jr... sort of a low point for both, I always thought-- the video was really bad, they doctored (badly) some old footage of Hank sr to make it look like he was singing the same song.


GravatarSuperbowl Sunday is an excellent opportunity to catch up on yoga and navel gazing.


GravatarCrap.

Maddie is gigantic.


GravatarDWD

There's some country music that I can really enjoy and a whole lot of bluegrass music that I love, but lately there is some really sucky country music.

I'm glad the steaks were good, though.


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?

No


GravatarMr French | 02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #

Or watch that copy of Bertolucci's 1900 that's been sitting around for nearly a year....


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?

Come sit by me.


GravatarWhere the heck did all of these comments come from? I thought I replied to Terry C right away. Aaaarrgh.


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


No.

In the words of former MVP Duane Thomas: "If it's The Ultimate Game, why are they playing it again next year?"


GravatarMr French | 02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #

Or listen to Wagner's Ring Cycle (well, most of it).


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?

I really don't care. I'm invited to two parties tomorrow and I'm trying to convince myself that it's ok to bail on both of them.


GravatarPatriots 25, Giants 11.


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?

No.

I'm holding out for when the Lions are in it. Which will be ... uhm ... uhm ... never?


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
fourlegsgood

non


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?

No. Football, right?


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?

Prolly not, but you know, some of us might care.


GravatarI really don't care. I'm invited to two parties tomorrow and I'm trying to convince myself that it's ok to bail on both of them.

It is okay.

I'm bailing on the one I'm invited to also.


GravatarGiants 2, Patriots 0....


Gravatarthe last Super Bowl I can remember watching was the '85 Bears vs _________-- which seems to say I don't remember it well, doesn't it...


GravatarThere's some country music that I can really enjoy and a whole lot of bluegrass music that I love, but lately there is some really sucky country music.

If Lori McKenna were where country music was at these days, I would have no problem with country music.


GravatarProlly not, but you know, some of us might care.

I don't give a fuck about that either.


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?

Mean Super Tuesday? Nope. I don't care either.


GravatarHecate, just tell them you've got a brief due by Monday?  A P&A?  Emergency babysitting for G'son?


Gravatar_________-- which seems to say I don't remember it well, doesn't it...
nick carraway |


Patriots, to fill that gap

Tonyb Eason at Qurterback for New England< Raymod Berry was teh coahc


GravatarHecate,

Technically, country music IS folk music. And I do dearly love some country music. But that is NOT the music they were playing. They were doing this bullshit that sounds like bad imitation rock with twangy guitars and terrible lyrics and really pretty shitty musicianship.

I love bluegrass. I like soft country songs - even as I type I am listening to Townes VanZandt - but not the Toby Keith kind of godawfulcaterwaulingnailsonblackboard bullshit.


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?


I'll watch the game but here in the Boston area it is nonstop pregame shows. All day, every day. I can't wait till 2/6 (parade will be 2/5 if the Pats win).


GravatarI've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow


Puppy Bowl!
-


GravatarI hope the damn thing is a tie. Then I hope they play sudden death after sudden death until all of their players are utterly exhausted and they never get beyond some pathetic score like 14-14. And all the sports people can talk about is how many bad records it set and how having no winner just fucks up the whole of sportsdom. That's what I hope anyway.


GravatarGiants 2, Patriots 0....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


Make that Patriots 7 so res ipsa loquitur can win the office pool.


GravatarHard not to get sucked into sports in New England. The Red Sox and Patriots are everywhere. So you go with the flow, a bit. Pretty harmless, good fun, as long as you don't mistake it for something serious.


GravatarI'm bailing on the one I'm invited to also.

We can bail together!


GravatarPATriots 10000 Giants negative infinty


Gravatarwe are serving chili cheese dogs, potato sald, chicken wings, pulled pork sandwiches, and brownie sundaes for dessert.

if more than 25 show up we will be screwed on the diogs, but the wings should get us through.

a perfect ending to a perfect season.


GravatarAnyone pointed out that Atlantic City is on TCM?


GravatarI'll watch the game but here in the Boston area it is nonstop pregame shows. All day, every day. I can't wait till 2/6 (parade will be 2/5 if the Pats win).

Feh.

I'm reading McCullough's 1776.

I think those patriots would be appalled at the nonsense that goes on in America today.


GravatarThe best thing about SBS is the supermarket has sales on various delicious dips, chips and hormone enriched luncheon meats.


GravatarAm I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?

I care.

[/Luke Skywalker]


GravatarNearly time for bed.

Night, all

Peace.


GravatarThen I hope they play sudden death after sudden death

It would be much more interesting if there were real death involved.


GravatarDWD - January is gone? | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #

There is one Toby Keith song I liked. It's a duet with Merle Haggard off the Best of collection "Hag".

The last song on the album, can't remember the title.

Toby reportedly had middling success until he jumped on the "America's always right" bandwagon.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...?v=EdM8PDu6VMg&

In the thread below, listening to "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" from Cabaret, then reading Southern Beale's link about the Dem AL state legislator/retired teacher dragged from her shower at 6:15 in the morning by Federal agents on charges of not working enough hours at her parttime teaching job, brought by a US Atty with extremely high Bush Brownie Points was frightening.

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2...02/hbc- 90002293


GravatarAnyone pointed out that Atlantic City is on TCM?
JeffCO


If we already missed Susan Sarandon's lemon-fresh scene, who cares?


GravatarPuppy Bowl!
-
QuentinCompson | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:04 am | #



Do they still have Kitten Halftime Show? That's all I'm interested in. I'm not a dog person.


GravatarProlly not, but you know, some of us might care.

I don't give a fuck about that either.


Yes, well, that's very nice. It always interests me when people like you say that when I'm called a dick for trying to motivate people to effect change. Curious.


GravatarPATriots 10000 Giants negative infinty

Okay, THAT was funny.


GravatarJeffCO | 02.03.08 - 12:05 am | #

And that Gandhi was on earlier?

I saw Atlantic City again a few months back. It's been years since I've seen it. Still holds up.


GravatarYes, well, that's very nice. It always interests me when people like you say that when I'm called a dick for trying to motivate people to effect change. Curious.

Oh, for fuck's sake.

We're talking about football. Get a grip man.


GravatarFourlegs: Henriette has little pink pimples at the very edge of her ears. Should i worry? she doesn't scratch herself more than usual in that region.


Gravatarthey play minor league baseball about an hour away from me, and I went a couple of times last summer & really liked it... sit right behind home plate for 7 bucks, have a couple of beers & a brat & watch fireworks after the game... can't hardly wait for it to green up again.


GravatarSupposedly, there's going to be a commercial w/ some local Galuadette students, so that's at least a local interest.


GravatarIt always interests me when people like you say that when I'm called a dick for trying to motivate people to effect change.

Anyhoo, I suspect that you're often called a dick, not because you try to motivate people, but how you do it.


GravatarI hope Petty goes out and says "Now that I've gotten your attention - let's end this fucking war!"

I think that's why Springsteen will never get that gig.


GravatarI'm reading McCullough's 1776.

Read it last year. What's striking is that Washington had big trouble with the "Patriots" not giving a shit anymore, and just leaving back to their familieies.

He actually had some shot over that to cut the practice out.


GravatarThe best thing about SBS is the supermarket has sales on various delicious dips, chips and hormone enriched luncheon meats.

Screw those.  I stocked up on beer, of which many delightful brews were on special


Gravatarbonne nuit DWD


GravatarWhat would a sports-thread be without 4LG to say "I don't give a fuck" ?


GravatarWow.. weird "domo arigoto" joke on SNL rerun just now.


GravatarFourlegs: Henriette has little pink pimples at the very edge of her ears. Should i worry? she doesn't scratch herself more than usual in that region.

I have no idea- maybe she's allergic to something in her food?

I'd get it checked out.


GravatarOh, for fuck's sake.

We're talking about football. Get a grip man.


We're talking about people's interests. You dismissed them rather harshly. Some people might actually care for a variety of reasons. In my case, it's something I enjoy watching with my father every year--Mom used to participate as well. So you might consider that.

And while it's football, I do still find it funny that when I do "get a grip" and talk about something serious, I'm called a dick. Even when I don't use words like "fuck" and am very respectful. Odd, that.


GravatarIf we already missed Susan Sarandon's lemon-fresh scene, who cares?

Not in any way to diminish her admirable frontage, but she also acts a bit in it, as does Burt.


GravatarWhat would a sports-thread be without 4LG to say "I don't give a fuck" ?
SteveLG


It would not be a sports thread at all


GravatarThe Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #

Styx/Domo Arigato jokes are a little dated, don't you think?

Someone needs to tell the SNL writers that.

It wasn't an episode from 1983, was it?


GravatarAnyone that does not watch some of the Puppy Bowl is an Islamofascist sympathizer. The Kittens do the half time show. Many people have been known to pass out. Cold. EEppiness you know.


GravatarWhat would a sports-thread be without 4LG to say "I don't give a fuck" ?



Thanks. The thing is I really like sports- I just can't get myself to care about professional sports the past couple of years.


GravatarI'd get it checked out.
fourlegsgood

i will then. oh joy it is bringing her to the vet... not!


GravatarNot in any way to diminish her admirable frontage, but she also acts a bit in it, as does Burt.
JeffCO


You may well be right about that.


GravatarAnyhoo, I suspect that you're often called a dick, not because you try to motivate people, but how you do it.

Yes, I've heard that before.

It's so horrid of me that I point out that people might be able to take action. I mean, gosh, I once proposed withholding a symbolic amount from Federal taxes and was called an insane fool. Imagine that.


GravatarAnd while it's football, I do still find it funny that when I do "get a grip" and talk about something serious, I'm called a dick. Even when I don't use words like "fuck" and am very respectful. Odd, that. NTodd,

I noticed you started a game you pigskin family loving overly serious dick. I'm already kicking your ass.


Gravatar"I'm Kilroy"???

I don't get it.


GravatarI hope the damn thing is a tie.

Yeah, 0-0 at the gun. Penalties all over the place, every pass intercepted, then fumbled. Quarterbacks both sacked dizzy, offsides on every down, 300 4th down punts, all blocked. Ultimate sporting contest my ass...


Gravatarpeace and humptiness forever


(WT AND NT-ODD< We WILL PICK UP game at my turn tommoree kthanxbai)


GravatarI once changed the word 'they' to 'we' and was yelled at.


GravatarWe're talking about people's interests. You dismissed them rather harshly.

No, I said that I DON'T CARE- I didn't say that you shouldn't care.

Knock yourself out.


Gravatar It wasn't an episode from 1983, was it?

Horatio Saenz was in it, to give you an idea of the date.


GravatarCome to think of it, that might be an interesting game to watch. For 10 minutes or so...


Gravatarolexicon: le Canadiens are doing very well!


GravatarI noticed you started a game you pigskin family loving overly serious dick. I'm already kicking your ass.

Sorry, I can't hear you over the ambients, you cheating motherfucker.


GravatarThe Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:11 am | #

Thanks. Definitely a massively dated joke, then.


GravatarI've been studying economics ... so watch it.


GravatarAnd while it's football, I do still find it funny that when I do "get a grip" and talk about something serious, I'm called a dick.

I've never called you a dick before ever, but is like or dislike of football anything to get excited about?


GravatarA lot of Lancaster's movies hold up well.
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Gravatar"I'm Kilroy"??? I don't get it.

Maybe you weren't around when Kilroy was here.


GravatarWinning in Super Bowl football means you own the world. Including Disneyland.


GravatarElmer: thanks so much for reminding me of the Mushroom Planet and Mr Bass' planetoid. Loved 'em, and haven't thought of 'em for 50 years or so...


Gravataralright, this is getting to be a very silly thread.

i'm going to try to get some sleep.

Go see "Juno" if you haven't already.


GravatarIf I produced the halftime show, I'd just ask I. Ron Butterfly to reunite, perform In-a-Gadda-da-Vida, and then go home. One band, one long song. Very easy and compact.

If it pisses off the world, tough.


GravatarNo, I said that I DON'T CARE- I didn't say that you shouldn't care.

I didn't say you said we shouldn't care. This is what I was responding to:

"some of us might care.

I don't give a fuck about that either."

You dismissed the fact that some of us might care. Not a very caring attitude from somebody who calls me a dick and an insane fool from time to time, hmm?


GravatarLemons ahoy, mateys!


Gravataralright, this is getting to be a very silly thread.

i'm going to try to get some sleep.


Ditto!




GravatarWT, saw it last night. It was very worthwhile. Great cast, great music and quirky and poignant script.'

-GSD


Gravatar
It's so horrid of me that I point out that people might be able to take action. I mean, gosh, I once proposed withholding a symbolic amount from Federal taxes and was called an insane fool. Imagine that.


Dood, you seem to think that your way is the only way.


And what the fuck does this have to do with me not caring about the super bowl?


GravatarA lot of Lancaster's movies hold up well.

I may have to put on Local Hero.


GravatarQuentinCompson | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #

Sweet Smell of Success, 1900, and The Leopard are still great.

Even though they dubbed Lancaster in the original version of The Leopard, he's still phenomenal.


Gravataralright, this is getting to be a very silly thread.

I for one, will *not* participate in a very silly thread.


GravatarI've never called you a dick before ever, but is like or dislike of football anything to get excited about?

I'm not excited about that, oddly enough. I'm simply noting that some of us do like football, and when somebody does note that they might care and are hit with "I don't give a fuck about that, either," we might not entirely be happy with that.


Gravatar'The Swimmer' was an underappreciated, curious movie...


GravatarGo see "Juno" if you haven't already.

I watched it last night and loved it, however I had to wince at the idea of a sixteen yo girl being a huge Iggy Pop fan.


Gravataralright, this is getting to be a very silly thread.

I for one, will *not* participate in a very silly thread.
MP | 02.03.08 - 12:14 am | #

Wots all this then


GravatarI for one am glad we have our very own NTodd. The GOP wishes they had one but they don't rate. Now stop fighting all of you, sing the Beasts of the Field anthem, and watch out for tipsy pigs issuing signing statements. Night batsies.


GravatarI may have to put on Local Hero.
JeffCO


I loved that one, and there was no distracting boobage.


GravatarAny actor that makes a fuss about doing his own stunts should watch "the crimson pirate"... Lancaster was having Big Fun.

& 'Burt Lancaster' was such an appropriate name... evokes something heavy & shiny coming down the tracks...


GravatarYuck it up now Liberals but the GOP will purify itself and return to it's true Reagan roots for total victory in 2010 and beyond.

Message to all closeted "gay" GOPers and those that mess with kids - don't walk, run your filth to Barney Frank's office as fast as you can you are not welcomed in America's Heartland party GOP


GravatarDood, you seem to think that your way is the only way.

No, I don't think my way is the only way, though you seem compelled to accuse me of that all the time.

And what the fuck does this have to do with me not caring about the super bowl?

Consider rereading the thread. You said you don't give a fuck about the game. I said some people might. You said you don't give a fuck about that either. I just think it's kinda funny that when I try to offer alternative actions for ending the war, engaging government, etc, I'm called a dick, but you can say you don't give a fuck about what other people might feel and you're totally cool.


GravatarCompared to O, HRC's speeches have all the resonance of ShaNaNa at Woodstock.


GravatarProfWombat | 02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #

Yes, it was. Great film.

I saw Brute Force not too long ago. It was really good.


GravatarAnother vote for 'Local Hero', and jost about anything else Bill Forsythe did...


GravatarI hope the damn thing is a tie.

Game called, due to Writer's Guild strike.


Gravataranother amazing pic form deep space:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod...d/ ap080203.html


Gravatar I watched it last night and loved it, however I had to wince at the idea of a sixteen yo girl being a huge Iggy Pop fan.

"Ziggy Pop is dead anyway" - underage girl in Trainspotting.


GravatarBjorn,a poor young country boi | 02.03.08 - 12:16 am | #

Hehehehehe....


Gravataryou can you are not welcomed in America's Heartland party GOP
Jesus for GOP Pres. 2008


Jesus, you'll be able to have your convention in a phone booth this year.


GravatarGregory's Girl!


GravatarMessage to all closeted "gay" GOPers and those that mess with kids - don't walk, run your filth to Barney Frank's office as fast as you can you are not welcomed in America's Heartland party GOP

Watch out for the stampede!!!

Keep your felons - we'll take the rest.!


GravatarI love you, you mad Moonbats. That's probably because, as Jack Kerouack said:

“The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”

Sweet dreams.


Gravatar Another vote for 'Local Hero', and jost about anything else Bill Forsythe did...
ProfWombat


Did he do "Gregory's Girl" and "Comfort and Joy" or do I have him confused with someone else?


Gravatar'Comfort and Joy' is, after 'A Christmas Story', the second best Christmas movie ever made...


GravatarConsider rereading the thread.

COnsider getting off your fucking high horse.

I'm pretty sure that everyone but you knew I was being snarky.


Feel free to keep feeling all victimized and put upon though.


GravatarWas it Mr. Robato that ushered in the end of Styxx?

The only thing I remember about Styxx was some dopey police officer giving a speech about satanism at high school and claiming that the Styxx album 'Caught in the Act' had to do with the band getting caught doing satanic back-masking on their LP's.

I remember thinking back then, my parents tell me to get up early, eat my vegetables and do my homework every day and it never sucnk in.

How the hell is some subliminal message played backwards and only heard on occasion going to penetrate my skull.

-GSD


Gravatarplum p,better democrats please | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:17 am | #

I bought that on DVD, and found that when it was released on VHS in this country, they dubbed it with "better" sounding English voices.

On the DVD, you have a choice between the original Scottish soundtrack (which isn't that hard to figure out), and the English dub (mind you, it was English voices, not American ones, like they did on Mad Max when it got released on this country).


GravatarHey!?!
hey hey


GravatarI have not seen Gregory's Two Girls, but I understand it is not that good.


GravatarComfort and Joy is one of the best Christmas movies.


Gravataranother amazing pic form deep space:

Iz pretty.

Looks like a giant space oyster.


GravatarSteveLG: that's him...gentle, wry, loves his characters, never quite what you expect...


GravatarElmer: thanks so much for reminding me of the Mushroom Planet and Mr Bass' planetoid. Loved 'em, and haven't thought of 'em for 50 years or so...
ProfWombat


Yer welcome. I went looking a few years ago for a used copy, and was astounded at the prices. One was $150. Bit steep for me. I'd love to find a set for the g'niece and -nephew, but I guess Dr Seuss'll hafta do...


GravatarIs the UK still turning out "small" movies as great as the ones from the seventies and eighties?


GravatarI loved Clare Grogan in Gregory's Girl.


GravatarComedy gold: RedState tells people not to be bigots and they argue their right to do it:

http://www.redstate.com/stories/ ..._our_commenters
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What is not fine, okay, or within the bounds of the rules, is to use Latino names as an insult. We are speaking, specifically, of "Jorge Arbusto" and "Juan McCain," although it's certainly possible that others are floating out there or may yet be invented. Allow me to clue anyone who thinks these names are funny or clever in to something: racism isn't clever or funny. If you think you've really zinged someone by calling them by a Latino name, that's a pretty reliable (nearly infallible, in fact) indicator that you don't like Latino people.

I know that many of you may come from other corners of the internets where this sort of thing is everyday fare, but be advised, it will not fly at RedState. If you want to complain vociferously about McCain, Bush, or anyone else's position on immigration, you may certainly do so, but if you can't do it in a way that doesn't indicate your disdain for Latino people, then you should probably do it elsewhere. Because you will just get banned for doing it here.


GravatarCOnsider getting off your fucking high horse.

I'm not on a high horse.

I'm pretty sure that everyone but you knew I was being snarky.

Oddly, I'm snarky and I'm sure people know that, but my delivery of that becomes an issue for you and some other people. Why is that?

Feel free to keep feeling all victimized and put upon though.

Golly, thanks for your permission. Because that's certainly what I live for.


GravatarElmer: thanks so much for reminding me of the Mushroom Planet and Mr Bass' planetoid. Loved 'em, and haven't thought of 'em for 50 years or so...
ProfWombat

Yer welcome. I went looking a few years ago for a used copy, and was astounded at the prices. One was $150. Bit steep for me. I'd love to find a set for the g'niece and -nephew, but I guess Dr Seuss'll hafta do...


BTW, my rocket fleet will NOT be made from plywood.


GravatarNTodd: why don't you let this go? You're edging into 'self-righteous bully' mode.


GravatarThat Sinking Feeling too.

Then came to the US and made the decent Housekeeping with Christine Lahti, then it was kind of downhill with Breaking In with Burt Reynolds and Being Human with Robin Williams.


Gravatar"Oh, that's right, this isn't a bastion of Clinton apologists. - Keep moving the goalposts. You asserted that from the beginning this place was a den of Clintonistas, when nothing is further from the truth. I'm not a Clinton supporter, nor an apologist. I simply observe that saying she's definitely going to lose is bullshit.
And being the expert historian you claim to be - I'm squinting real hard and can't seem to find the place where I ever claimed to be an expert historian.
In 68, with the country turned solidly against the war, it elected who? The conservative hawk.
In 04, with the country turning against the war, it elected who?
So, my dear Tacitus, why should we expect this trend to change? - 1) Then no Democrat will win, Hillary, Obama, Edwards, Kucinich or Wes fucking Clark.
2) TurnING against the war is not the same as turnED, and Kerry ran a piss poor campaign.
3) You might want to check you assertion that the country had turned against the war in 68. The under-30 crowd was still in support, and there are often other issues decided during an election, oddly enough.
4) Today 70% are against the war, Bush is polling significantly lower than Nixon was during Watergate, the Democrats owned the Vietnam war, etc.
5) The Principle of Induction might work WRT to the sun rising in the east, but this is politics.
NTodd, Thread Führer"


You're right, these couldn't be the attitudes or words of someone who claims to be an expert historian...

*doing my best Jerry Seinfeld eye roll*


!


GravatarNTodd: why don't you let this go? You're edging into 'self-righteous bully' mode.

He's always in that mode.


GravatarMessage to all closeted "gay" GOPers and those that mess with kids - don't walk, run your filth to Barney Frank's office as fast as you can you are not welcomed in America's Heartland party GOP

the Part of Boner? never gonna happen, but it would be fun to watch the unhinged fundies flip out when they realize Tony Perkins likes taking it up the ass almost as much as Senator Huckleberry does.


GravatarI was halfway through "Juno" when I recognized Ellen Page as the same youngster who played Jim Lahey's daughter Trina in "Trailer Park Boys".

She's very talented.


GravatarElmer: abebooks.com has 'em for under $10:

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/...+Planet&x=0& y=0


GravatarLooking forward to the GOP purification purges.

I take it Limbaugh will be first against the wall for his multiple marriages and sex tourism to poor nations.

Gotta get the popcorn out for the GOPurges.

-GSD


GravatarIs the UK still turning out "small" movies as great as the ones from the seventies and eighties?
SteveLG | 02.03.08 - 12:20 am | #
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Hey !!!


GravatarIs the UK still turning out "small" movies as great as the ones from the seventies and eighties?

Check out most things by Mike Leigh.


GravatarNTodd - bullies like you don't scare me, hit me with your best shot momma's boy.


GravatarIs the UK still turning out "small" movies as great as the ones from the seventies and eighties?
SteveLG

nope


GravatarIs the UK still turning out "small" movies as great as the ones from the seventies and eighties?
SteveLG | 02.03.08 - 12:20 am | #



I really loved all the Merchant Ivory films as well as everything Kenneth Branagh produced. Are there others? (I'm not much for violence but love a good movie).


GravatarIf there are no trolls around, NTodd goes after one of us. I never thought I would say this, but bring back Petzold!


GravatarI was halfway through "Juno" when I recognized Ellen Page as the same youngster who played Jim Lahey's daughter Trina in "Trailer Park Boys". She's very talented.

I thought she did very well with what could have been a fiasco in Hard Candy.


GravatarSteveLG

The U.K. film industry isn't very prestigous now. They are still making films (Mike Leigh and Ken Loach churn out one a year or so), but it's not what it used to be.


GravatarCheck out most things by Mike Leigh.
JeffCO


A brief check of his filmography discloses nothing I've seen or heard of.

Thanks for the tip.


GravatarRacism isn't clever or funny? Getr Limbaugh, Savage and Beck on the line, pronto!

-GSD


GravatarNTodd: why don't you let this go? You're edging into 'self-righteous bully' mode.

How meta. I asked a question, am told I'm on a high horse, and I feel that's not a fair accusation. I'm not supposed to take issue with such things?

He's always in that mode.

Fuck you. Really.

I am not self-righteous. I do not think my way is the only way. Yet the first fucking time I broach the idea of a possible action, I'm called insane. If I try to defend it, I'm called a dick and self-righteous.

Why can I not try to effect change and try to rally others to join me in considering how to do it? It's really insulting and disappointing to see erstwhile allies reject my questioning out of hand, then when I try to continue the conversation, tell me I'm somehow a bad person and on a high horse.

I've said time and again there are myriad ways to resist. My way is not the only way, but I suggest that perhaps in many cases people don't know about the nuances and variations of the actions I talk about. The tax thing is a good example: by continuing to talk about it, I know some people are sending a protest letter with their returns this year, and others are witholding a symbolic amount. I feel good about that.

It's not saying you have to. But I would appreciate not being called insane for choosing a path of resistance and trying to demonstrate that regular people can do pretty powerful things.


GravatarNTodd - bullies like you don't scare me, hit me with your best shot momma's boy.

How am I bullying anybody right now?


GravatarSteveLG | 02.03.08 - 12:25 am | #

Topsy Turvy is excellent. The DVD is out of print, but it plays a lot on cable, especially Sundance.

Naked, Secrets and Lies, and Vera Drake are good places to start.


GravatarA brief check of his filmography discloses nothing I've seen or heard of.

In that case I'd start with something like Secrets & Lies or Career Girls. Or All or Nothing, or High Hopes....


GravatarDomo Arigato, huh? I'll see your Japanese and raise you my Greek!

Νϋν άπολύεις τον δοϋλον σου, δέσποτα

And I have good reason for it, too!

Pax, y'all.


GravatarComedy gold, I tell yuh ...
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However, the use of latino variations of McCain's name APPEAR as racism because it insults an entire race. My point was that, in most cases, I believe this was unintentional.

In the world of political debate, appearance is everything. If you appear to be racist, then you will be considered one. Leon was right to make his request because these commenters are profaning what is a legitimate position with regard to illegal immigration.


http://www.redstate.com/stories/...#comment- 663489


Gravatar"Fuck you. Really.

I am not self-righteous."

You really don't see the irony do you?



.


GravatarRMJ: that's easy for you to say...


GravatarHow am I bullying anybody right now?
NTodd, Thread Führer


What was that again, mein fuhrer?

(Honestly, I don't know what's going on. I was just leaving anyway....)


GravatarI sort of feel sorry for you man, really...



,


Gravatar it's not what it used to be.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin


"Little Voice" and "Saving Grace" were more recent examples of the type of British movies I've liked, but even those weren't, I think, of the same caliber as the Forsythe films already mentioned.


GravatarRMJ: that's easy for you to say...
ProfWombat


Knowing what it says, is another matter.

I really need to practice it more....


Gravatari don't like it when atriots and atriettes fight among themselves. so i'm going to bed

bonne nuit.


Gravatar"Fuck you. Really.

I am not self-righteous."

You really don't see the irony do you?


Saying "fuck you" is hardly self-righteous, you fuckless assmunch.


GravatarAh, an irony fight.

My money's on NTodd. Let me know how it turns out.

I'm going to bed.


GravatarStephen Frears is pretty good too. Sammy and Rosie Get Laid, Prick Up Your Ears, My Beautiful Laundrette, The Snapper, The Van....


Gravatar"Notes on a Scandal" was a very good recent British movie.


Gravatar"Saying "fuck you" is hardly self-righteous, you fuckless assmunch."

And who implied he was a bully?




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GravatarDoes an irony tire get mounted on a ferrous wheel?


GravatarSteveLG | 02.03.08 - 12:29 am | #

Or the early Ealing comedies, the angry young men films, Lean's work, or Powell and Pressburger's work.


GravatarStrike the hammer while the irony is hot, yeah ...


GravatarJeffCO | 02.03.08 - 12:31 am | #

Forgot about him, oops....


GravatarBullies like NTodd and Rush Limbaugh always go down in the end, they are actually cowards.


GravatarThe Ealing Street comedies were some of what kept me going through college...


GravatarGet ta work, Mabel, there's a mountain of irony to do.


GravatarPuns...why'd it have to be puns?


GravatarProfWombat | 02.03.08 - 12:33 am | #

The Lavender Hill Mob was wonderful.

Did you see The League of Gentlemen? It was a film with Jack Hawkins made in the early 1960's. It's wonderful.


GravatarAnd Iron, Iron so far away ...


GravatarPuns! Because everyone's being a POOPYHEAD!


GravatarJohn Sayles' Secret of Roan Inish.


GravatarJesus loves me,
,cause he said
that he really wants me dead....


GravatarI hate the commercials for Juvaderm.  There's also a competitor's product, with equally irritating commercials.

I earned those lines on my face, dammit.  They're mine. 

Injectable prescription gel to get rid of wrinkles?  Give me a break.


GravatarIf there are no trolls around, NTodd goes after one of us. I never thought I would say this, but bring back Petzold!

Eh, well, I'm not bothered by his nonsense.


Gravatar"Notes on a Scandal" was a very good recent British movie

Yes.


GravatarEven if one does believe that they could win a shit-flinging contest with a monkey, any human being with an IQ over 100 would also know that it's a pointless contest that proves nothing, and therefore a contest not worth entering.


GravatarJohn Sayles' Secret of Roan Inish.

Now you're talking about a great filmaker...Matewan, 8 Men Out...great stuff...

Chris Cooper, Dave Straithairn in Matewan were outstanding...


Gravatar'Kind Hearts and Coronets', 'The Wrong Arm of the Law', 'The Man in the White Suit'. Alec Guiness and Peter Sellars and all those guys. Not a wasted word, gesture, camera angle; nobody trying to bowl you over with technique. Just wonderful.


GravatarZapette beat me at "Balderdash", but I got her back in Scrabble.

One and a half bottles of wine and the new Drive-By Truckers album later, we're quite sated.


GravatarWe had a lightning storm last night in the middle of a snow storm. It was kool, Massive thunder. QUite bizarre


GravatarGet ta work, Mabel, there's a mountain of irony to do.

"Now I got nothin' but heaps a irony to do, and my diet pill is wearing off."


GravatarWe had a lightning storm last night in the middle of a snow storm. It was kool, Massive thunder. QUite bizarre

That iz cool.

I've heard of that, but never been in the middle of one.

I think I read somewhere that it was becoming more common.


GravatarShit, I can't forget James Earl Jones...


GravatarBullies like NTodd and Rush Limbaugh always go down in the end, they are actually cowards.

So you can't answer the question, eh? How was my asking questions about the differences in perception "bullying"?

And I believe I've noted on many occasion that I'm a coward. I'm trying to change that with some of my actions over the past couple months. For example, I really hate meeting new people, particularly when I feel at some disadvantage, and yet I attended a gathering of war tax resisters who have been doing this shit in many cases for decades (including a Freedom Rider who's been a resister since 194. And then I went down to the Code Pink house in DC and actually did things I never would've imagined I could do--I even had fun.

So I'm trying to be the change I'd like to see. It's hard, but if I can do even what little I've done, I suspect other people can do even more.


GravatarHoly shit, it's teh invasion!


GravatarIrony lies over the ocean ...
Irony lies near Fletcher, VT
Irony lies in my ironies
So bring back my-rony to me ...


GravatarDoug Watts: I was driving home in one of those storms once-- the lightning would flash and reflect off the snow, you could see for miles... it was like a giant arc welder at work. Kinda the same effect on the eyes, too.


GravatarBob Gunton as the snitch...Matewan is so great man...


GravatarLook, it's late Saturday or early Sunday. I don't know what the groundhog saw. My life is ruined. We're all drunk.
Yeah!


GravatarIf there are no trolls around, NTodd goes after one of us.

Just know that I will defeat you at pool this time, and then you might end up in my dead pool win column.


GravatarHi Folks. Speaking of movies. I just got back from seeing Michael Clayton the new George Clooney movie.

I really liked it. Anyone else seen it?


GravatarDaniel finally went down, and I was pleasantly surprised to hear the mating owls beseeching each other when I went out for a smoke.

one is in our Oak, the other in the live oak across the street. love me some owl song.


Gravatar"Now I got nothin' but heaps a irony to do, and my diet pill is wearing off."



Yer tired cus yer anemic. Now take yer irony pill and get back to yer ironying.


GravatarMatewan is good.

And Mordechai from "Children Of The Corn" and "Can't Buy Me Love" is in it.


GravatarWe're all drunk.
Yeah!
candymarl | 02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #

I'm not, but there's a bottle of wine in the closet, and a bottle of Guiness in the fridge calling me...


GravatarSo I'm trying to be the change I'd like to see. It's hard, but if I can do even what little I've done, I suspect other people can do even more.
NTodd, Thread Führer | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:39 am | #
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You just like being ogled at by hott Code Pink chix ...


GravatarAre there others? (I'm not much for violence but love a good movie).
Jill

Truly,Madly,Deeply is a terrific movie.


GravatarJaneane, you're a slacker! Open the wine. Open the wine. Open the wine....


GravatarSpeaking of invasions, here's today's Method, which is the One True Way to end the war, and if you don't engage in it, you clearly love killing Iraqis.


Gravatar
You just like being ogled at by hott Code Pink chix ...


I made NTodd give their panties back. 


Gravatarsp oc ko | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #

I saw it. It was pretty good. Clooney was excellent as usual.

I didn't like the Tilda Swinton role, though. Very one dimensional, and she's a great actress, so it's doubly disappointing that she wasn't given anything interesting to do.


GravatarYou just like being ogled at by hott Code Pink chix ...

Duh. I love to Snack Pink. And I love my ladiez...


GravatarI find Sayles didacticism boring. Matewan wa sa good story but a slow film that could have been 20 minbutes shorter.

8 Men Out was OK, but I go to movies to be entertained, so if you are going to preach it damn well better be entertaining.


GravatarDoug Watts: I was driving home in one of those storms once-- the lightning would flash and reflect off the snow, you could see for miles... it was like a giant arc welder at work. Kinda the same effect on the eyes, too.
nick carraway | 02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
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I was in bed, reading at 2 a.m. I thought someone hit the telephone pole. Huge flash of light. Then a MONSTER crack and rumble. And it's snowing. IN Maine. IN February !!! I love thunderstorms.


GravatarSo you can't answer the question, eh? How was my asking questions about the differences in perception "bullying"?

And I believe I've noted on many occasion that I'm a coward. I'm trying to change that with some of my actions over the past couple months. For example, I really hate meeting new people, particularly when I feel at some disadvantage, and yet I attended a gathering of war tax resisters who have been doing this shit in many cases for decades (including a Freedom Rider who's been a resister since 194. And then I went down to the Code Pink house in DC and actually did things I never would've imagined I could do--I even had fun.

So I'm trying to be the change I'd like to see. It's hard, but if I can do even what little I've done, I suspect other people can do even more.


Blah, blah, blah...aren't you forgetting something?
Words like, "F" you, or "Assmunching..."?
Your prose just seems to suffer without those fine words...



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GravatarNTodd invaded me once. But perhaps I've said too much.


GravatarHi Folks. Speaking of movies. I just got back from seeing Michael Clayton the new George Clooney movie. I really liked it. Anyone else seen it? sp oc ko

How *dare* you insult the midwest like that you bastard!


GravatarI made NTodd give their panties back.

I bought my own set.


GravatarYou just like being ogled at by hott Code Pink chix ...

I made NTodd give their panties back.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 02.03.08 - 12:43 am | #
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They're for a quilt !!!!

Honest !!!


Gravatarcandymarl | 02.03.08 - 12:43 am | #

Yes, ma'am....


Gravataris this troll the same stalker NTodd had last month, or is it a new one?


GravatarBlah, blah, blah...aren't you forgetting something?
Words like, "F" you, or "Assmunching..."?
Your prose just seems to suffer without those fine words...


This seems like a rather superfluous comment, you bile-laden fuckwart.


GravatarBaby rib crotch liner ?


GravatarI just got a link from Jon Swift. In your face, Maple Syrup Boy!


Gravataris this troll the same stalker NTodd had last month, or is it a new one?

Golly, there's so many of them...


GravatarNTodd invaded me once. But perhaps I've said too much.

I hope it was good for you.

[lights cigarette]


GravatarI didn't like the Tilda Swinton role, though. Very one dimensional, and she's a great actress, so it's doubly disappointing that she wasn't given anything interesting to do.

Try Teknolust.


GravatarProfWombat, Thanks! Gonna grab a couple of those. Sadly, the whole series doesn't seem to ba available at those prices. Example;

A Mystery For Mr. Bass
Cameron, Eleanor
Bookseller: Book Rescue!!
(Burdett, NY, U.S.A.)
Bookseller Rating: Price: US$ 320.00
[Convert Currency]
Quantity: 1 Shipping within U.S.A.:
US$ 6.00

Think I oughtta read these through before i giove 'em? Just as a quality check, to be sure all the words are there...


GravatarY'know, you yell at someone for cursing; then, after a post in which he doesn't curse, you yell at him for not cursing.

That's nothing if not consistent. And there's nothing worse than half-dead gagh...


GravatarNTodd, are you pushing kids around in the school yard for their lunch money again?


GravatarBaby rib crotch liner ?

Really good with BBQ sauce.


GravatarElmer: haven't seen 'em in a long, long time, but I'd bet they'd make me smile a bit...


GravatarSo you can't answer the question, eh? How was my asking questions about the differences in perception "bullying"?

No, see, what you don't get is that some people have a little trouble getting past the obscene words regardless of whether they agreed with you or not or whether the point was a good one, or any of that.
What you don't get is that you're abrasive and obnoxious as I am too and I admit that, but at least I try to keep it on a higher level brother by not trying to insult people personally!
Damn! This shouldn't be the way a Saturday night should be!


I need a break...


GravatarSusie No Creamcheese ...

Led by the eponymous Lysistrata, the story's female characters barricade the public funds building and withhold sex from their husbands to end the Peloponnesian War and secure peace. In doing so, Lysistrata engages the support of women from Sparta, Boeotia, and Corinth. All of them, at first aghast at the suggestion of withholding sex, finally agree swearing an oath of allegiance to the cause.

http://www.paxamericana.net/2007...undays-no- .html


GravatarY'know, you yell at someone for cursing; then, after a post in which he doesn't curse, you yell at him for not cursing.

I'm fucked if I do, damned if I fucking don't. Oops, I'm sorry, that was either self-righteous of me or I'm playing the victim.


GravatarNTodd it was so good, that the universe came to standstill, restarted, the galaxies began to rotate in reverse, black holes became white, and white holes became black. Stephen Hawking finally acknowledged my brilliance. That's how good it was.
But perhaps I've said too much.


GravatarNTodd, are you pushing kids around in the school yard for their lunch money again?

Of course not. I'm simply nonviolently occupying their wallets.


GravatarNTodd: worse than that, you're a self-righteous victim. And a POOPYHEAD!

Guess I showed you...


Gravatar"
Of course not. I'm simply nonviolently occupying their wallets."

Oh, no problemo then.


GravatarNTodd it was so good, that the universe came to standstill, restarted, the galaxies began to rotate in reverse, black holes became white, and white holes became black. Stephen Hawking finally acknowledged my brilliance. That's how good it was.

[scuffs shoe in dirt]

Please leave your fiddy cent on the dresser.


GravatarLysistrata didn't have to deal with internet porn.


Gravatar"I really hate meeting new people"

NTodd, I didn't know that. It was you, before anyone else who welcomed me to the blogging world. For all this blather about NTodd being a bully I actually think the opposite.

His desire to engage people and to get them to think and take action is quite astonishing. He does have that potty mouth, but hey not everyone is following the words of Red Skelton. I don't work blue, but it works for others.

I'm the kind of person who likes to take action that is effective. And I'm open to all sorts of ways to accomplish the goal. There are multiple layers to any communications strategy and there are many ways to resist the war and this government.

For some it's writing, for others it's money for still others its direct action. They are ALL needed. I think about my skill set and think about how I can help push back on the terrible negative people and war supporters in the world. Based on my skills I acted. I expect other people to act based on their skills (and maybe even some skills they don't know they have.)


GravatarSee man, you're better than that, and if I could make an argument as well as you do, I'd do it without resorting to the trash talk, but you throw it all away when you resort to that. That's what's so damn frustrating.


GravatarNTodd: worse than that, you're a self-righteous victim. And a POOPYHEAD!

Guess I showed you...


Damn, now I guess I have to root for the Jints tonight. Hmmm...that will get me some nooky from watertiger, or Kenosha.


GravatarI think Lysistrata's words were:

No Action ...

NO ACTION

in Minoan ..


GravatarI think about my skill set and think about how I can help push back on the terrible negative people and war supporters in the world.
--

Going to their blogs and calling them ignint assholes is one place to start ...


GravatarI'm hoping that godaddy.com achieves another level of stupidity during the Super Bowl.

That's what I'm rooting for...


Gravatar'night, all


Gravatar"I really hate meeting new people"

NTodd, I didn't know that.


Yup. It's rather funny that I went into a field where I had to do that on a weekly basis. First day of class is always severe stress for me, even with medication. I thought it would go away once I really knew the material and had my schtick down pat, but nope, for 15 years it's been the same gut-wrenching experience to be on stage, even my college courses. And social settings? Bloody hell.

That aside, I welcomed you to the blogging world, such as I could with burned brownies wrapped in reused tinfoil, because you're a fucking Vulcan, and you did good stuff that we needed more of. So I'm extremely happy that you've thrived in this environment and really done good works. Especially impressive for a guy with all of 6 readers (IIRC, that was your sig at Candleblog back in the day).

Oh, I'm also proud to have been a part of your outing. Remind me to take more incriminating pics at the next Eschacon.


GravatarI think Lysistrata's words were:

No Action ...

NO ACTION


Well, "no peace, no pussy" is really just a paraphrase.


GravatarRemind me to take more incriminating pics at the next Eschacon.

I don't like the sound of that...


GravatarWhat do you think it's like to come in here with an honest desire to engage in some stimulating debate and show my support for a candidate in 2000 who shall remain unnamed and then to get repeatedly ripped a new one for the past 7 yrs while expected to take it without an ounce of sarcasm or bitterness?

Yeah, I plead guilty.
Big freakin deal.
So much for unity and coming together and all that...

...saturday freakin night...



...I've had one too many red wines...


GravatarWell, "no peace, no pussy" is really just a paraphrase.

When some strippers in SF went on strike some years back, they used "No Justice, No Piece."


GravatarThat's what's so damn frustrating.

Perhaps I live to frustrate.

But I believe Casablanca is the apt cite here:

Ugarte: You despise me, don't you?
Rick: If I gave you any thought I probably would.


GravatarNO PEACE

NO PIECE !!!

...

I think that's the original Mycenaean ...


GravatarRemind me to take more incriminating pics at the next Eschacon.

I don't like the sound of that...


20 bucks gets you special dispensation.


GravatarHow *dare* you insult the midwest like that you bastard!
JeffCO | 02.03.08 - 12:45 am
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Wow! A call back from last night. Brilliant!

JeffCO, If the quatloo to dollar wasn't so weak these days I'd send you a couple of hundred just for that line. Unfortunatly, my quatloos were invested in sup-prime directive loans and what with the whole replicator economy taking off right now I'm not in a position to reward you for your humor. However, if you are at Eschacon the first intergalatic beer is on me.


Gravatar20 bucks gets you special dispensation.

/slams money down on counter


GravatarI think that's the original Mycenaean ...

You know, I dated a Classics Major after I graduated from college. She was my one Republican. She was very good with the ancient tongues...


Gravatar/slams money down on counter

No need to be so violent. Just Paypal me, or bring Euros to Philly.


GravatarDeposited sir! I won't say where. You'll have to search for it.


GravatarHard Candy? Pedophilia themed?

Andrew Vachss should sue.
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GravatarJust Paypal me, or bring Euros to Philly.

Now that Norway has closed their counselate here in town, the best I can do is Loonies...


GravatarDeposited sir! I won't say where. You'll have to search for it.

KINNNNNNNKY!


GravatarNow that Norway has closed their counselate here in town, the best I can do is Loonies...

That's cool, but I only accept them on par with US dollars.


GravatarI jsut ealized that four glasses of red wine and you think you can see god in the compute screen...that's weird...


Gravatarhttp://www.usaelectionpolls.com/


American Research Group Releases Skeptical Connecticut and Illinois Polls Inflating Clinton's Totals


GravatarRead the last line...

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. (AP) -- Earl L. Butz, an outspoken U.S. agriculture secretary forced from office in 1976 for making a racist joke and once a dean at Purdue University, died Saturday. He was 98.

Butz died at his son's home in Washington, D.C., said Randy Woodson, dean of Purdue's College of Agriculture. He said Butz had traveled to his son's home last week for a visit with family and had been in poor health recently.

''It's a big loss for Purdue and Indiana agriculture,'' he said.


GravatarGIANTS 33
PATRIOTS 27

YIPPEEEE!!!!
gO GIANTS!1


Gravatarmorning bats

I jsut ealized that four glasses of red wine and you think you can see god in the compute screen...that's weird...
Elias


about two bottles for me before I start to see the big sky monkey...


GravatarNTodd, Mlle says she's ordering a pair.  She liked.

Baby rib is soft, fine, stretchy cotton.  God, boys are dumb


Gravatar"I jsut ealized that four glasses of red wine and you think you can see god in the compute screen...that's weird..."

Yes? Your point.


GravatarNTodd, Mlle says she's ordering a pair. She liked.

NOW will she marry me?


GravatarGod, boys are dumb

We is? That's unpossible!


GravatarSO rasecretary forced from office in 1976 for making a racist joke and once a dean at Purdue University, died Saturday. He was 98.

So racism = longevity...hmmmm.


GravatarFlink. Scooonek. Befflirg.


GravatarFirst overtime game baby!!!
Giants 33
Pats 27...


GravatarFlink. Scooonek. Befflirg.
Thers


one of the sweedish chef's lines...


GravatarBaby rib is soft, fine, stretchy cotton.

For her pleasure?


GravatarI think I just heard James Joyce burp.


Gravatar
NOW will she marry me?


She's never had sex with you.  Would you buy a pair of shoes without trying them on first?


GravatarNTodd. Interesting. And I went into a field where you have to write alot and I don't really like to write. I used to get so stressed out by the writing I had to do I would pull my hair out.

But I like to meet new people, I like to perform. Why am I sitting behind a computer most days?

When I meet Mike Stark he said, 'Why didn't you want to go on CNN?'

I told him how strange it was to have to both hide and be anonymous when my natural inclination is to be open. But I also understood the power of some mystery in the story and the narrative taking on a universal "I am Spartacus" feel.


GravatarFlink. Scooonek. Befflirg.

I'm very disappointed that I couldn't kill you off during the ice storm.


GravatarShe's never had sex with you. Would you buy a pair of shoes without trying them on first?

Tell her she has nice shoes. And I want to go home with her.


GravatarI also understood the power of some mystery in the story and the narrative taking on a universal "I am Spartacus" feel.

You're Spartacus? I thought you were Spocko. YOU BIG FAT LIAR!


GravatarNTodd, your Pack and ours...it's going to be very, very cozy.


GravatarJeffCO, If the quatloo to dollar wasn't so weak these days I'd send you a couple of hundred just for that line. Unfortunatly, my quatloos were invested in sup-prime directive loans and what with the whole replicator economy taking off right now I'm not in a position to reward you for your humor. However, if you are at Eschacon the first intergalatic beer is on me. sp oc ko

I've had the Romulan Ale. Now it's time to watch some enhanced nomad on TOS. Night all!


GravatarDid someone sahy beer???


Gravatar
I'm very disappointed that I couldn't kill you off during the ice storm.


You really have to stop getting so drunk while on Liberal Mountain.


Gravatar
I'm very disappointed that I couldn't kill you off during the ice storm.



No key parties for you.


GravatarGreat lakes breweing company makes good beer..damm good beer...


GravatarNTodd, your Pack and ours...it's going to be very, very cozy.

Way I figure it, I have 6 mammals in bed most nights. What's one or two more? Happens to be pretty good birth control, too...


Gravataroh oh, itme for b


GravatarDomo-kun is known to pass gas repeatedly when nervous or upset

Lovely.


GravatarWould you buy a pair of shoes without trying them on first?

No, they have to be loose.


GravatarNTodd, we ordinarily have four.  #5 sleeps in Monsieur's home office, #6 on Mlle's bed.  Maddy sleeps in the same room with Mlle.

There's a lot of something going on, but it ain't sex.


GravatarIn my unscientific polls, Hil brings the working class women's vote(You know, the people who run what's left of this country) and Obama brings the yout'

They may bring on a pitchforks and torches thing that will surprise them:

Hil: John, what do we do now?

John: This is what you want, this is what you get..rpt.


GravatarDomo Mori Gato


GravatarDomo-kun is known to pass gas repeatedly when nervous or upset

So am I! And when I'm happy. Or angry. Or tired. Or hungry. Or full. Or horny. Or sleepy...


GravatarEarl is going to be trying the shoes on in a warm place too, I'll bet...


GravatarNite JeffCO. Pleasent Dreams!


GravatarWould you buy a pair of shoes without trying them on first?

Why buy a shoe when you can get the foot for free?


GravatarThere's a lot of something going on, but it ain't sex.

See, I could totally adjust to that, being that it's exactly my current lifestyle.


GravatarHey what did the black girl say to the other black girl when ehy were getting photograped?

"He wan'ts to focus.
Both us?

Oh oh bad joke...i still livel to be 98..


GravatarEarls Butt!!!


Gravatar"Why buy a shoe when you can get the foot for free?"

Boxes. For the cats.


GravatarYeah, that's some funny shit.

Goodnight, all.


GravatarNTodd, I was once asked during a discussion regarding abortion when life began.

I said, I'm not sure, but I'm guessing it's when your kids move out.

Until then, the animals are gonna have to keep us warm.


Gravatarleave on a hight note brother, or a low note...either way...


Gravatar
See, I could totally adjust to that, being that it's exactly my current lifestyle.


Maybe you should be less homicidal.


GravatarNTodd, I'm a bit concerned...you might not get to eat Ramen noodles every night.  Could you cope with, you know, real food, and not fart all the time?


Gravatar"NTodd, I'm a bit concerned...you might not get to eat Ramen noodles every night. Could you cope with, you know, real food, and not fart all the time?"

Careful NTodd, she is attempting to constrain your personal freedoms and emissions.


GravatarNTodd, I'm a bit concerned...you might not get to eat Ramen noodles every night. Could you cope with, you know, real food, and not fart all the time?
Sallyh


jeez...asking a guy to adjust a little is cool, but asking him to give up ramen?


GravatarNTodd I'm a mammal. Homo sapiens sapiens to be exact. Sometimes the science overtakes me. Makes me name galaxies, planets, and moons. I watch space documentaries, Carl Sagan, and Nova.
I'm sorry. I'm being much too forward.
I'll go now.
/slinks away


GravatarMaybe you should be less homicidal.

No, I'm pretty sure I'll get more if I'm more homicidal.

Could you cope with, you know, real food, and not fart all the time?

So long as we do this gradually, I might be able to cope. Otherwise, I'll just hide my ramen in the closet.

Ahem.


GravatarHey, me gravatar finally appeared!


GravatarNTodd I'm a mammal. Homo sapiens sapiens to be exact. Sometimes the science overtakes me. Makes me name galaxies, planets, and moons. I watch space documentaries, Carl Sagan, and Nova.
I'm sorry. I'm being much too forward.
I'll go now.
/slinks away
candymarl


My favorite episode of Cosmos is #6 (Traveler's Tales).


GravatarHey, me gravatar finally appeared!
Thers


it gives you strength


GravatarHey, me gravatar finally appeared!

Goddamned drunken Irish.


GravatarMy Gravatar has disappeared for good.


GravatarOops, there it is. It doesn't show up in Firefox. Strange that.


GravatarMy Gravatar has disappeared for good.

Transporter accident?


GravatarNTodd, you may have your Ramen.  You might have to eat other things, though.  Like steak, and salad, and fruit.  And poundcake.


GravatarYou mean where Sagan takes a virtual tour of the universe? I've done that before. He's a piker.


GravatarThe transporter accident in the first Star Trek film really creeped me out.


Gravatarpoundcake has a low flatulence coefficient


GravatarMatthew, have you tested this hypothesis?


GravatarYou mean where Sagan takes a virtual tour of the universe? I've done that before. He's a piker.

Voyager I and II, compared to the Dutch explorers during the time of Huygens.

But now I am reminded of The Right Stuff: you blokes do that, too?


GravatarSometimes the science overtakes me. Makes me name galaxies, planets, and moons. I watch space documentaries, Carl Sagan, and Nova.

Ao much for science and evolution, are you ready to embrace Karma!!


GravatarI don't like in the war of the worlds remake Tom Cruise had to take out Tim Robbins.

Also Dakota Fanning? That scream just got more and more annoying.


GravatarMatthew, have you tested this hypothesis?
Sallyh


methane 2ppm
isobutane 1ppm
swamp gas 9ppm


GravatarThe transporter accident in the first Star Trek film really creeped me out.

"What we got back didn't live long...fortunately."

Yes, that poor Vulcan. But hey, that let us have Spock back!


Gravatarpoundcake has a low flatulence coefficient
::matthew

So does Ted Haggard, I hear.


GravatarSpocko, Monsieur's watching that flick right now.  All I keep hearing is that girl shrieking.  I'm ready to bitch slap the child silly or, worse, give her the Teacher Look.


GravatarI don't like in the war of the worlds remake Tom Cruise had to take out Tim Robbins.

He had to so as to demonstrate how caring a father he was. Sorta like invading Iraq.


GravatarThose of us to have traveled the stars have seen many things. Usually after visiting Terra and consuming large quantities of MD 20/20.


GravatarAll I keep hearing is that girl shrieking.

well, tom is kinda creepy


GravatarMatthew, did you perform several trials of poundcake alone, poundcake + salad, salad alone? 


GravatarI'm ready to bitch slap the child silly or, worse, give her the Teacher Look.

I can't do that. I don't establish classroom control on Day One. I even remark on that on Day One. But I also observe that I get paid the same whether they learn this shit or not.


Gravatar
it gives you strength


And it's still full!


GravatarMatthew, did you perform several trials of poundcake alone, poundcake + salad, salad alone?
Sallyh


I'm pretty sure that as long as you don't eat what old beagles eat, you'll be fine

I could use a test slice of poundcake...better see how the strawberries perform too


GravatarThere is no karma. Asimov was right.


GravatarNTodd, what's your average classroom size?


GravatarOn the one hand I think, "Yeah some kids WOULD scream all the time." on the other hand I think most would be numb mute.


Gravatar
And it's still full!


I'm reminded of an adventure Thor had...


Gravatarok bats

it's nighty night for me

be good...and watch out for the barking spiders


GravatarThere is no karma. Asimov was right.
candymarl

Is to.


GravatarSpocko, nearly died laughing during the promo for the Lost DVDs. 


GravatarNTodd, what's your average classroom size?

These days it's in the mid-20s, close to overload (for which my PD was just apologizing on Thursday as we hung out in one of the campus cafes). I miss the days when I had 6-8, but now these courses are required for a variety of majors.


GravatarDear Jet: Is not.
So there.


GravatarI do like how in the war of the worlds the Aliens feed on human flesh. It just makes sense, live off the land instead of bring your supplies with you.


GravatarNTodd, mine this semester is~80.

How about we trade?


GravatarAnd now, I'm going to bed.  Oiche mhaith duit, a cairde.


GravatarNTodd, mine this semester is~80.

How about we trade?


No. I'd never finish grading.


Gravatari'm glad people are getting emotionally attached to obama because then i won't have to ring as many doorbells this year.


GravatarI'll also observe I'm just an adjunct. I earn about 15 cents an hour and don't even get a parking space, let alone an office.


GravatarI wonder if Einstein knows now that, for the most part, he was right. I wish someone would publish the Unified Theory of Everything. String Theory? Still not convinced about that one.


GravatarMy Gravatar has disappeared for good.

Transporter accident?


Theological error.
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GravatarSo there.
candymarl

to to to


GravatarString Theory? Still not convinced about that one.

It appears to be a component of the unified theory, the latest surfer dude's math notwithstanding.


Gravatarto to to
Jet

Not not not. Boo on you.


GravatarI wonder if Einstein knows now that, for the most part, he was right.

I find that amusing.


GravatarNTodd, what's your average classroom size?
No flirting!


GravatarNot not not. Boo on you.
candymarl

What if humanity knew the truth? what would happen, what would you study? What would collge kids strive for?


GravatarI understand it's a component but I think it may be bogus. The surfer guy? Yeah I saw him. Feh.


GravatarString Theory? Still not convinced about that one.
Is that the one where the universe is a giant ball of yarn batted around by a cosmic kitten?


GravatarI understand it's a component but I think it may be bogus. The surfer guy? Yeah I saw him. Feh.

I'm not convinced it's bogus. And the surfer guy seems rather compelling.

Actually, he's a snowboarder, but he teaches surfing, IIRC. And I think he's just 3 gym credits shy of his PhD. Just like Jeff Goldstein.


GravatarWatching Spiderman 3. It's really true: with great powder, comes great responsibility.


GravatarWatching some of The Time Machine (1960) on TCM today I noticed that the splendid music was by Russ Garcia. I've still got his arranging book stuck away somewhere.

Listening, I couldn't help thinking John Williams got some of his ideas, even riffs and orchestration from that soundtrack. Or, coulda been the herb.
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Gravatargreat powder,


"With great powder comes great highs."
-George W. Bush age 40


GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?


GravatarHave a beer with them?
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GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?
sp oc ko

Ask James Baker to set up a stock swap?


GravatarWatching Spiderman 3. It's really true: with great powder, comes great responsibility.

Pffft. I learned that from Spiderbabe.

(I sure do miss Skinemaxblogging)


GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?

Ask them to hold hands with the Saudis?


GravatarJet:
If humanity knew the truth there would be mass suicide. I believe our brains are wired to protect us from the really awful truths. I would study Sidhhartha. It's not the destination but the journey. Trite but true. After all, there's only one destination for humans. The end of earthly existence as we know it. Maybe. I do believe that no journey is wasted. I'm still waiting for the ferryman.


GravatarWith Susan Powter, comes grape jelly.


GravatarGoldstein needs to clean up his Lassie porn.
/runs away


GravatarI'm still waiting for the ferryman.

Word of advice: don't pay him.


GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?

Abandon Earth in order to attend a birthday party for John McCain?


GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?

He'd invade Iran.


GravatarNTodd, if I don't pay him won't he turn me into a newt?


GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?

He'd invade Iran.


In all fairness, Iran is prolly a greater threat than Mars.


GravatarNTodd, if I don't pay him won't he turn me into a newt?

zactly


GravatarSherman was too liberal. He didn't burn enough. His soldiers should have dashed the brains out of each and every confederate baby. Or(pacifist repellent)
don't go to war in the first place.

Every bad and noxious idea that rots this country can be traced back to the southern aristocracy: the divine right of kings (bush's 1&2) the consumer plantation(your soaking in it) the honor of dying for your Master(pick one)

We could have been Denmark or Sweeden instead we're Italy circ. 1938, minus the food.


GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?

Tax cuts for the rich.


GravatarWith great pouting comes greater need for botox.


GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?

Do the aliens have bald heads?


GravatarEvery bad and noxious idea that rots this country can be traced back to the southern aristocracy

Not really.


Gravatarminus the food


and the architecture


GravatarTax cuts for the rich.
Endeavour Morse

Sad, funny and true.


GravatarHow would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?

He'd catapault the propaganda?
He'd make the pie higher?
He'd put food on their children?
He'd let them practice their love ...


GravatarString theory includes giant kittens with giant balls of string. The kittens bat the balls of string at each other. The balls resonate when they hit the giant kittens. These balls of strings hold up the Earth. Like Atlas. The end.


GravatarLALand, LAT -
"Lenders hiking required downpayments in L.A.
One last pre-Super Bowl Sunday post: Countrywide and other large lenders began requiring larger downpayments last week in counties where prices are falling. That includes pretty much all of Southern California.
From Ken Harney's weekly column in the LATimes:
"Countrywide Bank sent mortgage brokers a list on Jan. 25 that categorized hundreds of counties as soft markets with rankings from 1 to 5, in ascending order of perceived risk. In areas rated in Categories 4 and 5 -- roughly 100 counties in metropolitan areas nationwide -- Countrywide said it would now require larger down payments from most applicants.
"If a loan program previously allowed a minimum 5% down payment, applicants will now be required to come up with double that amount -- 10% -- to qualify. "Riverside and San Bernardino counties are both ranked as Category 5, and Los Angeles, Orange, San Diego, Ventura and Santa Barbara counties are in Category 4."
Is it fair to borrowers if lenders label an entire county as risky when the risk is concentrated in certain parts of the county? Probably not. "Ted Grose, president of Los Angeles-based 1st Mortgage Advisors Inc., said labeling entire counties as declining is 'ridiculous -- it totally fails to distinguish between areas where prices are rising or
relatively stable and other neighborhoods orcommunities where they are not.'
But on the other hand, if you are Countrywide, now would be a good time to start being more cautious."


GravatarSorry if this has already been posted, but:

A startling surge of support for Barack Obama has catapulted the Illinois senator into a virtual tie with Hillary Rodham Clinton in California's Democratic presidential primary, a Field Poll released Saturday shows.

...the Democratic numbers are (a) shocker. Clinton, a longtime California favorite, saw her once-commanding lead slip to two percentage points, 36 to 34 percent, in the new survey. That's down from the New York senator's 12 percentage point lead in mid-January and a 25 percentage point margin over Obama in October.

But with 18 percent of Democratic voters still undecided just days before Tuesday's primary, the election is still up for grabs, said Mark DiCamillo, the poll's director.

"It's an unusually volatile election, with a very high number of undecided voters and so many moving parts," he said. "It could be a very, very close election."


The Field poll is historically considered the most reliable and accurate...


GravatarWhen do elections have moving parts? Before or after assembly?


GravatarI blame Connecticut.
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GravatarI'll never forgive Lincoln for not using nukes when he had the chance...


GravatarWhen do elections have moving parts?

When their valence shell is bombarded with bosons and TV ads.


GravatarI'll never forgive Lincoln for not using nukes when he had the chance...

It's the fault of those fucking Border States, who didn't want the fallout.


GravatarOne of the areas of Science Fiction that I was really interested in for a while was, "How would various countries handle the arrival of aliens."

If I was an alien and I was observing earth I would NOT want to connect with the Americans. I'm thinking one of the countries that have a history of not killing everyone who is "the other" might be good. Also aliens have the potential to destroy economies if they wanted to. "Here our 93 percent effecent fuel cell plans have at it humans." Even throw away technology could replace entire markets.


GravatarCountrywide list of scary places: http://tinyurl.com/yue4ao


GravatarWho among us can explain the Space-Time Theory of Meerkats? Bueller? Anyone?


GravatarString theory includes giant kittens with giant balls of string.

Reminds me of a photo in the Onion about three years ago... a cat with a military hat sitting at a desk with a "General Bonkers" nameplate, and a headline that said "War on String Unwinnable, Cat General Says".


GravatarI'll never forgive Lincoln for not using nukes when he had the chance.

That would have solved the darkie problem, too, to his way of thinking.


Gravatarwith bosons and TV ads
HAHAHAHA.


GravatarIf I was an alien and I was observing earth I would NOT want to connect with the Americans. I'm thinking one of the countries that have a history of not killing everyone who is "the other" might be good.

Yeah, but if you're the aliens in Independence Day, you want to connect with the Americans because blowing the living shit out of the WH would feel pretty fucking good.


GravatarString theory includes giant kittens with giant balls of string.

Yes, but what is your giant kitten theory? Dark kittens? Is it kittens all the way down? Should we spay and neuter?
Is there a difference?


GravatarCool - over at PowerPop, they've got a Slade video!

That's right! That's ri-ii-i-ight!!!


GravatarI'll never forgive Lincoln for not predicting the rise of GWB. His secretary was named Kennedy wasn't he?


GravatarYeah, but if you're the aliens in Independence Day...

I hate that movie for SO many reasons.

Not the least of which is the ending, where people stand around while huge billowing clouds of toxic alien smoke blow their way.

You know, people, if breathing the earth germs killed the aliens, what do you think breathing the alien germs will do to the earthers?


GravatarJob market even worse than expected.


GravatarHis secretary was named Kennedy wasn't he?

Eerie!

If only people had listened to the Professor from Gilligan's Island when he was running around town trying to stop the assasination.

Instead, they delivered him right into the hands of Booth...


GravatarI'll never forgive Lincoln for not predicting the rise of GWB.

He had already seen it.


GravatarGloria Grahame is on in a movie I'm watching on PBS. The Bad and Beautiful.

I've had the hots for her since I saw her in Oklahoma. It's the lips.


GravatarShe played Ado Annie.


GravatarKitty pichur werth seein.'

http://icanhascheezburger.com/


GravatarYou know, people, if breathing the earth germs killed the aliens, what do you think breathing the alien germs will do to the earthers?

sokay because we're used to breathing toxic shit.


GravatarThe Bad and Beautiful.

With Kirk Douglas?

The movie that taught Michael how to be a producer!


Gravatar
Along those lines, he noted that 11% of job seekers relocated in the fourth quarter of 2007, down from 15.6% in the fourth quarter of 2006. John Challenger, CEO of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, said the much-publicized downturn in the housing market is also playing a role, as some job seekers are less willing to relocate to take a new job if it's going to mean taking a large loss on their current home.

Unintended consequences are a bitch.


Gravatardave™©
You are correct sir!


Gravatarsokay because we're used to breathing toxic shit.

My mother hated that movie even more than I, btw.

She had thing for good sci-fi, having lived through the "War of the Worlds" scare.

I did, however, enjoy Brent Spiner's cameo...


GravatarThe kittens are outside of space and time as humans perceive it. During the spay and neuter process dark matter is produced. This matter can only be measured by the effect it has on the balls of string. I can't say more lest our alien overlords hear.


GravatarYou are correct sir!

Woo hoo!

When I was in high school, our drama class came up to SF to watch them film "Streets of San Francisco" at SF State.

Didn't get to really meet Karl Malden (he was shooting his scenes, so we got to watch him), but Michael Douglas was more than happy to come out and chat with all the nubile young high school girls...


GravatarBrent Spiner's cameo...

"We call it the freak show!"

I think that Brent Spiner was one of the best actors on ST:TNG. I also think that Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9 was a good actress. Do you see a pattern here?


GravatarI, for one, am very glad GWPDA was unwilling to allow Arthur to devour Angel. The pup deserves a home.


GravatarDo you see a pattern here?

I'm trying not to think about it...


GravatarKarl Malden ( or "Butt Nose" as we used to call him) starred in a brilliantly written, short-lived TV drama called Skag with Piper Laurie playing his wife.


GravatarThey are unemotional people trying to connect with humanity! Geez Trademark Dave it's not as if I want to have sex with them! Where is your head at?


GravatarI think that Brent Spiner was one of the best actors on ST:TNG.

I liked the episode where he played Data, Data's evil "brother," and their ancient inventor/father (who inexplicably sounded like Groucho Marx in his old age).


GravatarAlright. Off to bed. Nite folks!


Gravatarit's not as if I want to have sex with them!

Well, Data is programmed in all forms of pleasure - and he's fully functional.


GravatarI'd hit the Borg.

And I'm out. l8rh9rz.


Gravatardave™© |
I loved that episode. "I am not less perfect that Lore. "

Followed by Lore with a sarcastic repeat of the same line, "I am not less perfect than Lore."


GravatarAt first, I liked Tasha Yar , before she began droning on about the "rape gangs" and became a Romulan and left the show and everything.


GravatarNTodd, you'd hit a brick wall. Goodnight.


GravatarAnother episode with Data I enjoyed - to a point - was the one where a scientist is working on tapping into some interdimensional barrier and starts screwing up the space-time continuum, so the Enterprise comes around to check it out, and it turns out his wife is Picard's former girlfriend.

Unfortunately, the wife was played by Michelle Phillips, and she was abominable.

But the episode's got one of my favorite Data scenes - he has to seal the "rip in time," and just as he's about to do so, the time effect kicks in and suddenly he sees three Datas, all working several seconds apart. They start asking each other who's the one that's really in the present, and finally the "real" Data holds up his hand and say "Me! It's me!"

I dunno... I thought it was pleasantly goofy in that sci-fi sorta way.


GravatarThe Light Pours Out Of me

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GravatarFrank Rich: "Ask not what J.F.K. can do for Barack Obama".

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/0...ion& oref=slogin


GravatarPicard's spunky, scampy girlfriend on Raisa was the one I liked; back when Picard was a hottie for a season or two and let his "package" show as often as his roll-up keyboard and his funky "music."


Gravataralt.sexy.bald.captains, bitches!


Gravatar"Vash" -- that was her name, I think.


GravatarThanks plantsman,

Frank Rich is a moron. He trivializes what he tries to memorialize.


GravatarMisterX | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 3:04 am | #
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Howard DeVoto !!!


great song ...


GravatarI didn't tell ya to read or agree, only linked.


GravatarFinally,a reasoned and balanced opinion about the two of them.

I am already sick of the hype and starry eyed idealism.

Not to mention the ageism.

Atrios asked for a critique of the new Obama video a few threads ago. What's to critique?
It's a marketing ploy aimed at the kids under 30 who got off to a slow start under the bush economy.


GravatarI didn't tell ya to read or agree, only linked.
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Thanks for the link ...


GravatarVash later starred in an Advil commercial, playing a hot but arthritic teacher, as I recall.


GravatarVash is the hero's name in Trigun, isn't it?


GravatarI'm a 46 year white women and I liked it.


GravatarFrank Rich is a fucking moron. He could devote at least the lead of this column to the fact that this 2008 election is about candidates who are in favor of human torture, spying on U.S. citizens, and extraordinary rendition and undeclared war -- and those who are not.

That would be useful information, Frank.

What a fucking useless, preening tool ...


GravatarHow can the Dutch wait for this evening, when the investigative Dutch TV "journalist" will reveal the secret of what Urine Van der Sloot said about Natalee Holloway?


Gravatarhow many people your age did you see in it?


Gravatarhow many people your age did you see in it?
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your age ?


GravatarI'm a 46 year white women and I liked it.

I'm a 36 yo white guy and I liked it.


GravatarOpinions vary widely as to what this election is about. I often find Rich a refreshing break from many of the punditoids.


GravatarLOL...good point, but I still liked it. I bookmarked so I could show my kids when they come over tomorrow to watch the game.


GravatarJohn McCain voted on Oct. 16, 2006 to suspend habeus corpus under the U.S. Constitution and to allow the torture of human beings. It's called the Military Commissions Act.


GravatarAnother McCain flip-flop that's difficult to understand is opposing the Bush Tax Cuts originally, but now pleading yet demanding they be made permanent for "the good of our economy".

Huh?


GravatarWisconsin is not a chocolate state but they crossed the line to vote for the brother.


GravatarI thought it was technically professionally done, but mediocre in content.

And aimed at age 30 and under.


GravatarMassive numbers of suburban white kids say they'll vote for Obama.


GravatarI think that Brent Spiner was one of the best actors on ST:TNG. I also think that Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9 was a good actress. Do you see a pattern here?
sp oc ko

Why do I keep thinking her Borg name was 6 of 9?


GravatarAnd aimed at age 30 and under.

How is that a criticism?


GravatarMassive numbers of suburban white kids say they'll vote for Obama.
bert

Obama Girl for House Speaker!


GravatarYoung folks voting for Obama isn't much different than when young people bought Marvin Gaye albums in the 60's.


GravatarIt's been a long, hard slog for acceptance as humans for African-Americans -- first in sports and entertainment (how I grooved to Motown!), later in professions and politics.


GravatarAnd aimed at age 30 and under.

How is that a criticism?
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Dood.


GravatarNaw, naw; think of Kate Mulgrew's whiny voice as Janeway, "Seven...."


GravatarI fear Obama might be the token house nigger for many whites. 'We don't let blacks into our neighborhood or club or town but we'll make an exception for one so exceptional and half white.'


GravatarAtrios asked for a critique, not a criticism.


GravatarPresident Hillary or President Barrack will at some point have a huge, colossal fuck-up during their term. However, it won't be as bad as George W. Bush's best day.


Gravatarbert, those are old fears that have held us back as a nation for centuries. And there's only one way to disprove them. George Bush using Collin Powell and Condi Rice as puppets has proven black folks can be incompetent tools, but it wasn't a fair test.


GravatarI fear Obama might be the token house nigger for many whites. 'We don't let blacks into our neighborhood or club or town but we'll make an exception for one so exceptional and half white.'
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And you are Duke Ellington, keeping track of this stuff ?


GravatarMcCain got pummeled by Romney (58%) tonight in Maine and barely beat Paul by 2 points. Looks like Repubs agree - McCain is too old to make it to the finish line!


GravatarFor me, I like the fact that he is my age. I am 1 month older than he is and my husband is 3 months older than he is. My sons who are 23 and 22 yrs. old and love Obama. I couldn't get them to vote for Kerry and now they have a interest in politics. My older son tapes all the debates. I think Obama has generated an interest in the young that quite refreshing. Its about time the young start getting involved in politics and better yet, become Democrats!


Gravatar'We don't let blacks into our neighborhood or club or town but we'll make an exception for one so exceptional and half white.'

Again, how is that a problem? I'm not following this logic. Racists shouldn't be hypocrites?


GravatarPresident Hillary or President Barrack will at some point have a huge, colossal fuck-up during their term. However, it won't be as bad as George W. Bush's best day.
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How do you know? Do you have ESP ?


GravatarThen Maine got duped by Romney. Let's wait till Wednesday for a fuller assessment.


GravatarColin Powell. If the asshole who cleared Lt. Calley of war crimes during the Viet Nam had warned against going along with George Bush's war crimes instead of promoting them then he would have been elected President in 2004 as the Republican nominee.


GravatarOh, I agree getting old.

It is a good thing for the kids to get interested. When I was young, Vietnam was the motivation for getting involved.

I hope the kids don't get too disappointed if he isn't the nominee, if he loses the general, or if he turns out to be a better orator than president.


GravatarWhat does Colin Powell have to do with the 2008 presidential election?


GravatarIt's time we looked at how many jobs Bain Capital destroyed "turning companies around." (making them more profitable for the investor class)


GravatarHow do you know? Do you have ESP ?
Doug Watts

No. I play the odds. Surely, you have heard of the curse of the Bush photo-op?


GravatarColin Powell is an example of someone being given enough rope to hang himself, being asked to make a phony case for war -- and doing both.


GravatarI hope the kids don't get too disappointed if he isn't the nominee, if he loses the general, or if he turns out to be a better orator than president.
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That's a loaded, pissant phony comment there. A 'better orator than president." Why not just say a "better dancer" than president?


GravatarWhat does Colin Powell have to do with the 2008 presidential election?

If he had stood up to Bush/Cheney lies in 2003 instead of propagating them he would be running for re-election. Not that I would have voted for him either time.


GravatarIts strange, my kids don't even talk about race. This Generation is definitely different than the one I grew up in. Their friends are many different races and backgrounds.


GravatarAtrios asked for a critique, not a criticism.

Fair enough. The video shows mostly young people, but it also shows Kareem Abdul Jabar. I don't feel left out.


GravatarBecuase I have heard him speak, but I haven't seem him dance.


GravatarAgain, how is that a problem?
Wait till the sun goes down on Obama, till things get bad. Then you'll see a bait and switch style of racism. Electing him is just the beginning. This will turn into an emotional journey most whites won't be willing to face. And they'll take their country back.


GravatarThen Maine got duped by Romney.

Maine has closed voting, only those registered as R's get to vote on that ballot.

So yeah, I'd go along with duped. Repeatedly, in fact. But duped or not, this is how the vote will go as we see less of the open voting and more closed.

Interesting that cable isn't covering the upset, isn't it?


GravatarWait till the sun goes down on Obama, till things get bad. Then you'll see a bait and switch style of racism. Electing him is just the beginning. This will turn into an emotional journey most whites won't be willing to face. And they'll take their country back.

Oh, please; enough with your longing for "the good old days" of white supremacy. You can't get there from here.


Gravatarbut it also shows Kareem Abdul Jabar. I don't feel left out.


Not saying anything, just sayin'.


GravatarWhoever gets elected in 2008 could very well be the Herbert Hoover of the 21st Century.


GravatarTheir friends are many different races and backgrounds. getting old | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 3:39 am | #
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We all grew around kids of many genders, sexual preferences, backrounds, races and ethnicities. We always have in the U.S. It is only very recently we have been told it is allright not to hate or exclude or diminish the existence of some of them. Nothing has changed except our attitude ... hopefully.


GravatarIt's the weekend, The SuperBowl, and the middle of the night. Give them a minute.


GravatarIts strange, my kids don't even talk about race. This Generation is definitely different than the one I grew up in. Their friends are many different races and backgrounds.



Mine too. I believe we have made good progress with our kids.

I do wonder if the country as a whole is still too racist to elect a black man or too sexist to elect a woman, though.


GravatarThis will turn into an emotional journey most whites won't be willing to face. And they'll take their country back.

I don't think so. Of course prejudice, bias, and double-standards will be the norm, as they were with Bill Clinton and as they would be with Hillary Clinton as well. But there's not going to be a revolution or anything, and certainly not anything like we saw in the 60s, when try as they could the whites didn't take the country back.


GravatarWE have to get out and vote and PROVE we're not too racist or sexist.


GravatarI would like the candidate to be Barack, but if its Hillary I will support her a 100%. The thought of rethugs back in the white house get me sick.


GravatarWell, I know I'm gonna get out and vote but I'm not so sure my neighbors here in Texass are going to be taking the same attitude I will.


GravatarSuddenly, Mama's popped Doris Day on the turntable and "Que Sera, Sera...." is playing:

"The future's not our to see -- what will be, will be."


GravatarWE have to get out and vote and PROVE we're not too racist or sexist. plantsman | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 3:45 am | #
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I don't think that is a real problem. I think the Republicans over the last 20 years have cordoned off and captured most of the racist, sexist and homophobic voters. This has become the Republican base. Note the positions on gay rights by any Republican candidate, compared with Democrat.


GravatarAll we can do is speak our beliefs and hope others are affected as we are. But we owe it to ourselves to try.


GravatarI hope the God the kids do get out and vote and not just use politics as a fashion statement.


GravatarAs a queer, I notice; trust me. I notice what demanding people live a lie or as lesser does to them and their spirits, and I hate it.


GravatarAll we can do is speak our beliefs and hope others are affected as we are. But we owe it to ourselves to try. plantsman | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 3:49 am |
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Yup. It's a scary time, but an invigorating time. We have to choose between HRC and BHO and I wish we still had John Edwards down to the wire. As my wife said, this is one of the best fields she's ever seen.


GravatarI think racism nowadays has more to do with personal experience and socialization than with ideology. Sometimes I forget that my father grew up in a segregated world, and despite his strong intellectual support of civil rights he still thinks of African-Americans in a different context. And he's voting for Obama, fwiw.


GravatarI wish we still had John Edwards down to the wire


me too
i miss john


GravatarI've tried to weigh it carefully and make my decision based on experience and truth. Because I was born white under segregation and felt awful about it, I think my choosing Obama is understandable. I don't want to piss the women I admire off, but I'm not ashamed of my decision.


GravatarObama in Boise panorama:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/ 2...76b50833f_o.jpg


GravatarTerry C flipped out when I stated my choice and why. "You don't think women's problems are Important!?!"

Ugh.


GravatarGreat picture, only got to see the speech in St Louis tonight on C-span and the crowd was big, but not as big as Boise.


GravatarFrankly, I think Edwards would have done more for women than either of the others. My opinion.


Gravatargetting old, not so much you are. I'm almost a decade older, and I ain't done yet.


GravatarWe'll never know what Edwards "would have done."
He has had a large positive effect as it is.


GravatarThere is much about this election that the choices, and the choice itself, seems so much more monumental -- generational. It's either we take back our country now or we lose if for the rest of our lives. Being 43 years old, and 35 when fuckface stole the Presidency, it certainly seems like that on a rational level.

For this reason, I don't quibble over the minutiae of the Dem. candidates. It's like you need a face card to win all the money. And you're quibbling over whether it's a Jack, Queen, or King.


GravatarNow I feel young, thanks. You know there is a reason I go food shopping on Tuesdays, because it is senior citizens day and feel like the youngest in the store.


GravatarHe has had an enormous effect in that he forced the other two to dialogue about issues they probably would not have touched otherwise.

I feel like he gets it about poverty. And poverty is a woman's issue, in my book.


Gravatar(hangs Yoda back in closet)


GravatarPoverty is a human issue, that affects every type of human, please remember.


GravatarThere is much about this election that the choices, and the choice itself, seems so much more monumental -- generational. It's either we take back our country now or we lose if for the rest of our lives. Being 43 years old, and 35 when fuckface stole the Presidency, it certainly seems like that on a rational level.

I agree with all but fail to see why it's generational.

(I'm almost 60 btw)


GravatarJohn Edwards has definitely pulled the debate into the working class-middle class discussion of disappearance of quality jobs that corporate Dem. contributors would prefer not to hear. That's why his absence now will be missed.


GravatarHe's not dead; it's said he negotiated with Clinton and Obama in advocacy for his issues.


GravatarPoverty is a human issue, that affects every type of human, please remember


Well, that is surely true. I tend to see it through my own lens, which has to do with having been a poly marginalized woman...and poverty was a huge part of that


GravatarI said generational because if Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton win in 2008 it will mark a fundamental change point in the history of the United States. If an old fucking white guy wins ...


GravatarSome folks (Bless Their Hearts, as the Southern locution has it) gotta divvy people up and pit them against one another. To my mind, the disastrous failure of Conservatism shows this is ultimately fruitless -- but it hasn't stopped.


GravatarIt will be historic and landmark. The first time in all of American history.

Generational seems a little ...small?


GravatarSome folks (Bless Their Hearts, as the Southern locution has it) gotta divvy people up and pit them against one another.


The passive aggression around here knows no bounds.


GravatarUnderstood, none; as you naturally would. I just feel its time to get past our own frames of reference and "play one for the species."


GravatarThe passive aggression around here knows no bounds.

So does the Wal*Mart psychiatry.


GravatarIt doesn't matter to me which one it is.

It matters that it's one of us.


GravatarI still thinking Edwards will have some important cabinet position. He is not done yet. Johns causes have not been wasted. Poverty rarely gets talked about and yet it must be addressed.


GravatarSo does the Wal*Mart psychiatry.


rofl
i hear ya....but some things are so freaking obvious that they must be said regardless of the personal consequences.

lol


GravatarI'm thinking so, too; g.o. He's got a lot to contribute and Elizabeth is gonna live every minute she's got!


GravatarI still thinking Edwards will have some important cabinet position. He is not done yet.


O, I think so too. I just wish he was still,in the race to drive the debate all the way to the convenrtion.


GravatarWhen mama was finally winding down from fighting recurrent breast cancer, she still popped that wig on and made herself up and went out and LIVED!

Gosh, I admired her for that!


GravatarBy not endorsing, He has stayed above the fray and he is smart, because it keeps the issues he was fighting for alive.


GravatarSoon-to-be 83 year-old Dad has come out for Obama.


GravatarI feel like Murika is going to need to hear about poverty a little more before they are ready to do something about it. Jobs they understand. Trillion dollar wars they understand. Obscene health insurance costs they understand.

They need to hear more about the people who are falling through the cracks so it stays on their radar.


GravatarAnd the thing about endorsements is that it's so hard to measure any effect they might have.


GravatarThe GOP has fostered hate and contempt for those less fortunate. It's as if one can't be Gordon Gecko, he or she is a loser. The bankruptcy of that way of thinking must be made clear.


GravatarI still remember 2004 very well. All the endorsements for Kerry, all the yard signs for Kerry, all the momentum for Kerry, all the youth for Kerry. Then bam. But then again I also remember the landslide of 2006.


GravatarPlantsman,

Bless her for that, my girlfiend died of breast cancer at the age of 36 and had 3 young children and she fought all the way to the end, always with a smile on her face. She hated those wigs, they made her head itch and she would always end up flinging it up against the wall and we would break up in laughter.


GravatarAll the long lines at polls in Ohio, all the Swift Boat ads, all the useless American jingoism......


GravatarThe GOP has fostered hate and contempt for those less fortunate. It's as if one can't be Gordon Gecko, he or she is a loser. The bankruptcy of that way of thinking must be made clear.

Absolutely. And Edwards has tried to reframe this issue.


GravatarThe bankruptcy of that way of thinking must be made clear.


Does it scare you a little that your statement is true?

WHY don't we (suppposed) adults already know this?

Aren't we supposed to already know this?


GravatarSt. John McCain, The True Conservative is jingoism on a stick, to my way of thinking.


GravatarI was taught that kindness was a good thing - but from an early age, it was implied I took it too far.
The GOP has made kindness and liberalism seem like BAD things -- but they're not!


GravatarI still cringe when I think about Kerry/Edwards' slogan: "For a Stronger America."


GravatarSpeaking of Kerry, I was depressed for months after the loss. I couldn't believe America was so dumb.
I was so damn sure we were going to win. No Bush/Cheney signs in the neighborhood. Everyone seemed to be pro-Kerry. I came to the conclusion that people were embarrassed that they were going to vote for the dickheads so they lied. The feel in my small PA county seemed pro democrat. Yet, when the results for my county came back Bush/Cheney eeked him out by 5%--I was shocked.


GravatarAren't we supposed to already know this?

One reason why Jonah's book is so deplorable is that the current fascists are not liberal, they are either fiscal or security-related. And the Bush administration has conflated the two. I know people who have had to buy a plane ticket to go to a bank to open an account. Going into a bank now is like going through a checkpoint in East Berlin in the 1960s.


GravatarOnce, they talked about starving kids somewhere in Sunday School, and gave us little cardboard banks to put change in to help them. I stuffed all my pennies in mine and gave them all away, for which my parents said I was foolish. You should have seen how I cried at Ol' Yeller.


Gravatar You should have seen how I cried at Ol' Yeller.

That would be a great name for a movie about Bush and Cheney.


GravatarI will be interested to see how my SIL's neighborhood does this year. They live in a heavily integrated, carpet-bagger middle-class suburban subdivision in GA, which in 2004 which was entirely for Bush, as judged by yard signs. Bush had so entirely wrapped up the identity politics of family values that Kerry was barely an option. We don't inject our politics too strongly at family gatherings, but I keep my ears open. So that would be one sign.


GravatarI was 13 when Kennedy was killed. I remember Wallace and Selma and RFK and MLK, Woodstock and Neil Armstrong.

Those events shaped me as a person.

I freely admit that I don't remember the 70s at all, but that was from trauma, not drugs.

When I woke up in the 80s, it was Greed A GoGo and I confess I have been feeling a little lost ever since then.


GravatarSomeone over at FDL was talking about Yellow Puddle Democrats. I liked that one.


GravatarThat would be a great name for a movie about Bush and Cheney.


roflpimp


GravatarI'm angered that the notion of "The Common Good" has been so devalued by libertarians and conservatives. It shames us as human beings.


GravatarHere's a question that might be worth looking into.

in 2000 BB (Before Bush) all federal employees, officials and members of the armed forces had to swear to an oath to uphold and defend the constitution.

What oath do members of Homeland Security swear to?

(with exception of the Coast Guard, military traditions, make me think they still swear to that)


GravatarI was told growing up to eat all my food on my plate because kids in Africa are starving to death and now I tell my kids to finish their food because some kids in America are starving.


GravatarNothing common about them, eh plantsman?


Gravatarnow I tell my kids to finish their food because some kids in America are starving.


GravatarI'm angered that the notion of "The Common Good" has been so devalued by libertarians and conservatives. It shames us as human beings.

For some ungodly reason, people who have never worked a day in their lives, e.g., William Kristol and Tucker Carlson, prefer to suck on one of Ayn Rand's tits than read some John Locke and the Federalist Papers.


GravatarI was the fattest kid in 6th grade, so I got the "honor" of being Sandy Claws in the School Xmas assembly. I had just been called to the principal's office and told of my *good fortune* when the news of Kennedy's assassination cane over the radio. I'll never forget it.


GravatarAmericans are very good at offing successful progressives. It is somewhat astounding that both Roosevelts were not killed.


GravatarThat day was the first day I ever saw a boy cry.


GravatarWell, FDR was a cripple; and Eleanor's voice was weird, so maybe they were kept alive to ridicule.


GravatarI remember when Reagan was shot. Should I be ashamed that I was hoping at the time that he would die so that the curse on presidents elected in years divisible by 20 would continue? Or would that be shallow?


GravatarThere were tons of Golden Age Cartoons with Eleanor's fruity/flutey voice, but I had no idea who they were making fun of.


GravatarIf you've got one of the media players that can display album art on it's screen, it's sometimes a bother to find and convert the art and get the player to display it.
This program makes it easy.

Album Cover Art Downloader
http://www.unrealvoodoo.org/hite...jects/albumart/

It definitely works with windows XP and Debian Linux on the operating system sides of things, per my personal tests.

And for media players, I know it works with IPOD touch (what it was originally made for) and CowonD2 players.


GravatarI was only 2 when Kennedy was assassinated but my family talked about it for years. My mom loved Kennedy. After Clinton my mom became a republican (I guess financially she was doing better) I think because of the Clinton years, but she voted for Bush twice--she still likes him (veins popping out of my head) She still believes he is keeping us safe.
(grinding teeth now)


GravatarIf taxpayers got a bill for the Iraq War every year, it would have ended long ago.


GravatarIf there was a war tax on every gallon of gas it would have stopped long ago.


GravatarIf taxpayers got a bill for the Iraq War every year, it would have ended long ago.

We have not paid a penny for that war yet thanks to a congress that has neglected its responsibilities.


GravatarOh, and while we're at it; "Tax Cuts?"

The country NEEDS STUFF! R U Crazy?


GravatarI remember when Reagan was shot.

I remember when he was running for that office and a couple of things from that time.
1/ talking with some friends about hiring an old broke down alcoholic bum (clean him up with a haircut, bath, shave, and nice clothes) and having hime shake Raygun's hand with the bum's hand soaked in super-glue, so he could have a bum as his 'right hand man'.

2/ being given tickets to one of Raygun's campaign events, by the parents of a friend, that for some reason thought I was a upstanding young man. (I was going to school and at the same time earning a good living) I guess he thought I was a possible Republican.
Fat chance!


Gravatarbut she voted for Bush twice


This is why I wonder if we are really ready for landmark change.

People like your mom are everywhere.


GravatarIf taxpayers go a bill for the Iraq war every year, it would have ended long ago.


Thats what my Dad says and he is a republican like my mom. He is a fiscal conservative and Hates Bush.


GravatarWe are Ready. (pass it on)


GravatarWhen in graduate school, I knew this absolutely beautiful woman who was so excited because she had a friend who had gotten her an invitation to one of Reagan's 1984 election inaugural balls. I.don't.get.it.


GravatarIf taxpayers go a bill for the Iraq war every year, it would have ended long ago.

I'm kind of a pay as you go conservative, (fiscally conservative, but socially liberal, I don't like debt, with the government or in my personal life.) and have since the beginning of our goldfish in chief's not liked anything that he's done.


GravatarThe woman later had a penile implant and became Mann Coulter. Even Later, The Crypt Keeper!


Gravatarbed time---Big game tomorrow-going for Giants, husband is NE Pats fan --born in Rhode Island. Should be fun!


GravatarDoug, was it you who linked to the article on hydrogen electrolysis on a titanium oxide catalyst?


GravatarPeople were actually talking here about what to do with all the electricity we could generate from wind.

Well, how about a GHG-free electric passenger rail network?


Gravatarwas it you who linked to the article on hydrogen electrolysis

Yeah, there are a lot of blue sky research projects like that.

That one in particular looks good, and the article was at MIT's Technology Review, which means at least a couple people with brains looked at the article before it was put there.

A couple more, interesting solar projects I know of, that I can find the articles if anyone here is interested.
1/ a project at Idaho National labs for an IR solar cell that can cheaply be printed, that uses an antenna of all things to receive Infra Red radiation, that has about an 80% efficiency, and would also work with about any heat source including buildings that heat up during the day, and radiate heat at night.

2/ another nano solar project at Livermore labs, that uses nano wires to collect solar energy. I remember less about this one.


GravatarPeople were actually talking here about what to do with all the electricity we could generate from wind.

I'm kind of boring. The place I'm now working at use honeycomb composites to make their stuff, so I'm learning a few things while working in the QA lab that checks out their production.
I've been thinking of making a honeycomb composite electric auto. I think I could get the weight to less than 1500 lbs total including enough structure in the front sides and back, to protect the occupants even if they were Tee-boned by a humvee, which metal autos do not currently do. That weight target includes all drive and interior components of the vehicle (batteries and electric motors)


GravatarI was fascinated by that research, but being a non-scientist my mind is slow moving from stepping-stone to stepping-stone. So, I'm wondering about all the water used to supply hydrogen for a long time before I realize that "burning" the hydrogen yields water vapor, so maybe no net loss of water, or am I nuts here?


GravatarYou're not Boring! Strange and idiosyncratic, maybe.


GravatarI recall you're into smaller, more efficient autos -- Suzukis, if I'm not mistaken.


Gravatarno net loss of water, or am I nuts here?

In transport use there is a loss of water in the sense, that it's converted at one place to hydrogen, and converted back to water on the road. But no loss overall, regardless of how the hydrogen is consumed, in a fuel cell or directly burnt in some internal combustion engine.

If consumed in a stationary system like a electric generation system the water could be endlessly recycled.

Not perpetual motion, the sun will eventually burn out, in a few billion years.


GravatarHeh. I won't live to see the sun burn out; so for me, it never will.


GravatarGawd. I have a cheap table lamp to replace and I thought I'd find one I can use CFL bulbs in for any number of reasons. Then I almost get seduced by cheap lamps at Target, forgetting completely how my last cheap lamp fritzed out in a year.


GravatarSuzukis, if I'm not mistaken.

My son and wife have one each and I'm still driving an ancient Jeep Cherokee, with about 221 thousand miles on the odometer. It's till running and passing emissions, though I'm saving money for whatever I'm going to replace it with.

Remember I'm the no debt guy, I've paid cash for the last several autos I've bought including the Suzukis, the Jeep, and a couple of Mitsubishi trucks, but then I tend to always get at least a couple hundred thousand miles out of all the vehicles I've bought except for a Ford Taurus. A piece of shit BTW, it was as expensive as a Mazarati to keep up the maintenance on.


GravatarAnd you have a purple prickly pear!


Gravatarpurple prickly pear!

The rest of my cactus throw out endless babies, but those tow purple ones never do.

A shame actually, that's the one I'd grow more of. I guess, I could go to the Mesquite plant nursery, they have those and lots more kinds.


GravatarSo, I'm looking at these borderline kitschy "Arts & Crafts" table lamps at LL Bean. Part of me knows they'll age funnily, and part of me could not care less.


GravatarOr, there might be a way to propagate the one you have. Some cactus pads will sprout roots even if the plant won't make viable seed.


GravatarIf the nursery has them, there is a way.


GravatarA lot of nursery propagation is vegetative.


GravatarOf course if that composite auto, was teeboned by a humvee that guy's insurance company would be crying when they got the repair bill. I'd not fix it myself. (I'd probably build the next one instead, after having learned a few things building the first one)

I don't think too many body shops grok ATR pins, composite laminating, and CNC cut honeycomb composites, so they'd have to send the auto to an aircraft company to get it fixed. About a half million dollar job, is my guess.


GravatarDrive VERY defensively, in other words.


GravatarI've been drooling over some of the offerings at that nursery, though as normal, you have to check out what you are getting. The climate I live in is more hostile to 'soft' plants than in Tucson, It's a bit higher in elevation, with high winds a few times a week, so most plants wither and die quickly if not well protected. Roses, do all right, and I've even got some citrus, though maybe they are more bother than I'm willing to deal with. I've got a row of flowering sage plants I put in front of the house I'm happy to say, the winter frosts (again a lot more here than in Tucson) have not managed to kill, so I'm hoping they'll thrive this summer more than last. They did OK last summer, no wilting from sun or wind once I put them into the ground. The biggest ones got to almost 2 feet tall.


GravatarGREAT ARTICLE
http://livelymoney.blogspot.com/...re-are- two.html


GravatarI've got well over a million miles under my belt, and have only had accidents when totally stopped. If the car I'm driving is moving, I can get out of an idiot's way


GravatarFlowering sages (Salvias) are one of my favorite groups of plants, and there are some gorgeous ones from the Sonoran Desert, as I'm sure you're aware. Citrus, if it takes hold, can be well worth it.
I curse silently at the price of lemons now that I can't grow one.


GravatarAbiogenetic Origin of Oil
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/co...ct/319/5863/ 604

This has been an ongoing argument/discussion in the Geologist's world for decades. That article is at one of the AAAS sites, so it's a bit more believable.


GravatarMmm, that's heavy going for this time of day.....


GravatarI'm still trying to find a source of large enough burlap sheeting to make tenting the citrus easier when the frosts hit. All that I've found are little bitty squares. I need something as wide as a big carpet roll, and equally long.


Gravatarheavy going for this time

I'm wide awake,
this is my normal work time.


GravatarAbiogenetic Origin of Oil
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/co......ct/319/5863/ 604

--

Thomas Gold !!! (r.i.p.)

fascinating theory, not much evidentiary support.


GravatarCheck online for "floating row covers." I'm not sure if Peaceful Valley Farm Supply is still in business or has a web presence - but somebody has just what you need.


GravatarOk, that would be rough for me at any time of day.


Gravatarmorning, all.

Feed stores have burlap sacks, they must have a source for them that works from large rolls of burlap.

It's amazingly warm and moist here today.

My brussels sprouts are sprouted!


GravatarHere ya go:

http://www.google.com/search? hl=...G=Google+Search


GravatarWholesale Nursery Supply Houses have stuff like that, too.


Gravatareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee



My cat, Happy Jack, just typed that ...

Hi Ruth !!!


GravatarFresh Brussels Sprouts! Steamed up some fresh Mexican Asparagus last night.


GravatarThere's a not very good plant nursery right around the corner -- but they will have fuchsia starts in not too long. (I'm pining for another Begonia boliviensis "Bonfire" for summer, but it may not fit in the budget.)


GravatarHappy Jack and Doug, hi! now I know why you have a bee on your posts. Honeycomb is good, and we have a salad place on the news out of Dallas that uses corn-based cups, utensils and stuff, that is biodegradable.


GravatarI buy organic "Fresh Herb Salad" in corn-based clamshell containers, too.


GravatarGooood morning! I worried I might be intruding there, having nothing automotive or prickly pear-related.


GravatarBTW- Colavita brand Balsamic Vinegar is DREADFUL!


GravatarOp-ed at WaPo using my concept! of paying wages that give workers buying ability. /trickle up ideas a specialty...

"We need less titillating talk about "stimulus" and more commitment to some fundamental repairs -- higher wages, a real safety net and a return to progressive taxation among them. The challenge isn't just to prop up stock prices but to rebuild an economy in which everyone shares the good times -- and no one is consigned to a permanent recession."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...id=opinionsbox1

from the lady who wrote 'Nickel and Dimed'.


Gravatar....And I have 500ml of it to use up, too!


GravatarBarbara Ehrenreich, no?


GravatarHere is an excellent collection of free biomedical resources. I was looking for http://www.biomed.net the on-line site for the Beagle. Right now that site is down.
http://www.ibms.org/index.cfm? me...l_science_links

Anyway if the Beagle ever comes up again, it's a good source to be able to read some of the journals, that otherwise you'd not be able to without paying a fee. You have to join but it didn't use to be that difficult. Just tell them you are some sort of bio-science professional. Plantsman, tell them you are a research botanist. That's close enough to what you are anyway.


Gravatarplantsman, I've never had bad balsamic vinegar, how'd that happen?

snarkworth, all snark is worthy. and I don't have honeycomb auto yet, but I do have prickly pear.


Gravatar Napa Valley Naturals Grand Reserve Balsamic Vinegar is kinda pricey, but you only need a few drops, so it ends up being reasonable.


GravatarI'm ordering seeds right about now. Branching out a bit in the sweet pepper department, because they did so well last year. Plus, they keep incredibly well.


GravatarDunno - their Olive Oil is okay, but this was a "value" and I didn't have much money, and......


Gravatar/ehrenreich, yes, and she even uses my favorite example Henry Ford. she's been reading my blog! I want rights... me and sittenp0retty, heh.


GravatarThat bug is not a bee or wasp, and I've not ID'd what it is. There was a swarm of them in my yard, last spring one morning, and the sight of those insects was kind of dazzling. They were iridescent blue, glinting in the sunlight from a dark almost UV violet, to the brilliant blue you see in my gravatar. If anyone can ID this insect I'd like that.


GravatarI'm addicted to colorful sweet peppers, and Ellie Krieger on the Food Network says they are three times richer in Vitamin C than Oranges.


GravatarMorning, all. Go Giants!


GravatarDoug, you have a County Extension Service down there? They'd know.


GravatarTrue, plantsman. They're fine green, but once they turn yellow or red they go all high octane, nutritionally.


GravatarThe orange ones have a really good different flavor, too!


GravatarAnyway the honeycomb I work with is made of aluminum, nomex, graphite, fiberglass, and some other plastics, depending on what kind of honeycomb it is and what it's being used for.

Strong stuff, but difficult to work with. A stress skin structure, with a stiff skin, and in the middle almost nothing, and lightweight honeycomb that you can pull apart with your fingers, even with the aluminum kind, which is just honeycomb formed thin foil in the middle. A two inch flat panel of aluminum twenty feet X 5 feet you can stand on with only a deflection of maybe a couple of inches, when supported on the far ends, and... still be able to pick this up yourself. When kerfed and bonded into a three-D structure it's even stronger.


GravatarMorning peeps.

We have a super bowl party to attend. I'd just as soon not.


GravatarI've said this before, but if open-pollinated, organic, genetically-modified-free seeds are your thang, check out:

http://www.seedsofchange.com/


Gravatarql - how big is the TV?


GravatarThat looks like what we called 'sweat bees', Doug, has a nasty sting. Got a thumbsnap?

I love yellow, orange, red peppers, not so much the green.


GravatarSo, I'm watching The Food Network and the healthy cook takes out her Garlic Press -- and it's just like mine! I was so excited!


GravatarI get sticker shock at the store, pepper-wise. Pound for pound, the colorful ones cost more than filet mignon. And this time of year, seems they're all grown in some hydroponic gulag somewhere in the Netherlands.


GravatarOur Kroger subsidiary consistently has the best prices on greenhouse-grown Mexican and British Columbian ones, so we're lucky.


GravatarThe game will be projected on a wall.


GravatarBig, Giant Super Bowl!


GravatarSnarkworth, at my local Kroger, the veggie section makes up little pkgs of veggies that didn't sell, and because of their high price the prettier colored peppers usually are in there. Red ones have $1 sales occasionally too.


GravatarAnd this week, CA broccoli and cauliflower, 68 cents a pound!


Gravatarql, even if you're lukewarm about the party, you can enjoy the commercials!


GravatarIn the unlikely event that RMJ is still around, the Nunc dimittis heard at the end of every episode of the old BBC series Smiley's People is really worth a listen, and if he hasn't heard it, I will try to get him a copy. He should email me at loki snail uchicago period edu.


GravatarIf you like un-messed-with peanut butter, Kroger's store brand is tops!


GravatarAack! It was Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy

(Early onset Alzheimer's...)


GravatarSuper bowl usually puts me to sleep.


GravatarI should probably investigate. I generally give up on peppers and tomatoes during the winter.


GravatarWhy would someone wander into a Lane Bryant and kill 5 women?


GravatarI've got a picture of that insect somewhere on this machine. I think I have this organized by date, so I might be able to find it again.

It's not a bee. It almost looks like a moth, with the shape of the antenna (larger on the ends), but that doesn't seem correct either.

Let me see if I can find a picture of it and thumbsnap it at you guys.


GravatarHere, we see little square 4-packs of on-vine hydroponic tomatoes in winter. I've gotten rather good at never refrigerating them and ripening them in brown paper bags to slice for sandwiches.


GravatarBlue Moths are very common in the West, though.


GravatarLemon extract is something like $160/unit (pound or quart, not sure which).


GravatarI have not yet found the blue insect yet, but here's a nice picture I took last winter on one of the rare snow days east of Tucson.

http://thumbsnap.com/v/KrsnHs3E.jpg


GravatarThat's gorgeous, Doug; it's amazing how much like an undersea scene it looks!


GravatarPeople in Florence, Italy grow lemons in Gigantic Pots and roll them into open barns to overwinter.
I'd do it in a minute if I had a greenhouse!


Gravatargorgeous, Doug, snow on cacti is pretty amazing.


GravatarMaybe "0 comments" means that there are comments up, but thay don't have any carbs.

gop:drf


Gravatar"Dems Flood States with Ads as Tuesday Nears."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22973356/


GravatarI hate the Super Bowl and I hate Super Tuesday. No TV for me today.

gop:drf


GravatarArabella, what's "drf"? Is that French for "scrod"?


Gravatardrf = done, ruined and fucked
scrod = screwed

gop:drf


GravatarThnx,A. Dare we hope it's true?


GravatarAnother thumbsnap of my dog kody, with an extreme closeup, what you might see right before she licks your face.

http://thumbsnap.com/v/DpeySqdW.jpg


GravatarO comments means haloscum is out to get you.

ooboy, our reporters have found an earlier UFO incident in Stephenville, TX, in 1897. Same kinda stuff.


GravatarSnarkworth - You have to believe you can win. No matter what happens in November, I plan to stay involved.

During the Republican debate, one look at those creaky old white men gives me tremedous hope.

gop:scrod


GravatarWhy would a UFO come to Stephenville, TX?

gop:drf


GravatarWhy would a UFO come to Stephenville, TX?

They wanted to eat some Tex-Mex food?

About the only reason I can think of.


GravatarWe've lost 4 visitors.

gop:scrod


GravatarI have hope too, Arabella, but it's tempered with painful experience. I well remember a creaky old man named Ronald St. Reagan.


GravatarSnarkworth

My point is that the country is changing. Obama's success shows that. The era of the old white men is coming to an end.

gop:scrod


GravatarI've to to run to Sabu's market to get some eggs, and then clean up the kitchen. It's getting kind of manky in that room.


GravatarWe lost two more visitors. I choose to stay and fight.

gop:drf


GravatarHelp! New Thread!!!


GravatarYou're right, of course. Only trouble is, all those old white guys can be very mean when cornered. When they sense they're going down, whoa Nellie!


GravatarWhen they sense they're going down they say really nasty, ugly things and the phony mask drops away.


GravatarSo? They'll die before I will.

The presidential race will be closer than I expect, but we can win. We have to.

gop:scrod


GravatarOK, OK, sheets, already!


GravatarLawsy, someone with keys; Wake Up!!!


GravatarC'mon. The Republican debate looked like Star Trek IX. An aging crew standing on the deck of the Enterprise.

"Stop going so fast, Sulu. I'm going to fracture hip."

gop:scrod


GravatarHey, plantsman et al called sheets, and I dutifully trotted over. I'm dying over there!


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