Sorry, but no ethanol for the biofuels-bitches crowd.
jingle mail |
02.02.08 - 11:47 pm | #
So, the Mittster is toast and McCain is the anointed one. And the Dems will form their circular firing squad until the convention produces our nominee. Of course, the wingers will never figure out that the bickering is a clever ruse and they are even now falling into our clever trap.....did I say that out loud?
catalexis |
02.02.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Have we left the trools and Hillary-haters behind?
Jeezus. Enough is enough!
Terry C - HATES Republicans |
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02.02.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Not only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...
ProfWombat |
02.02.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Turn on the dog show on Animal Planet. The sheer cuteness will slay you. I missed the first showing EST. No spoilers on the winner please.
candymarl |
02.02.08 - 11:48 pm | #
oh, dude.
Styx?
Have you no shame?
watertiger |
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02.02.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Turn on the dog show on Animal Planet. The sheer cuteness will slay you. I missed the first showing EST. No spoilers on the winner please.
candymarl
I watched the earlier broadcast.
I won't spoil it, but you will be surprised.
Terry C - HATES Republicans |
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02.02.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Thank you very mucha Mr. Roboto
olexicon, |
02.02.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Tommy Shaw looks like a gurl.
watertiger |
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02.02.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Styx?
Have you no shame?
Could be worse. He could have posted "Lady".
catalexis |
02.02.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Was the entire previous thread as... *whatever*... as the last several comments?
nick carraway |
02.02.08 - 11:53 pm | #
you didn't freeze to death this last week?
plum p,better democrats please
Nope, but my car did freeze shut for three consecutive mornings
olexicon, |
02.02.08 - 11:53 pm | #
Hecate, a blessed St. Brighid's Day to you.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 11:53 pm | #
Thank you very mucha Mr. Roboto olexicon
I set up a table for you
JeffCO |
02.02.08 - 11:53 pm | #
bonsoir!
oh, what horrible music
plum p,better democrats please
Tonight, because we received a gift card worth $75 and that is a considerable sum of money, we actually went to a local steak house. It is a chain restaurant called Texas Road House. We had steaks. The steaks were excellent.
But they made us listen to this horrendous caterwauling that was too loud, too stupid, and too annoying to ignore. I believe it was called country music but it sounded like nothing that has ever been played through anything I have ever owned so it is hard to say.
Honestly, I could take it for only so long until I really did want to kick some ass. . . (I think it was the song that talked about a tear in his fucking beer. Someone should have told these people that just because two words are minimal pairs does not mean that they should be used together.)
DWD - January is gone? |
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02.02.08 - 11:54 pm | #
Terry, is it possible to prefer Obama for the nomination and not be a Hillary-hater?
SteveLG
I'm talking about the sexist comments from certain parties.
Who WERE some of those idiots down there?
Women should have stopped hoping back in 1969?
What the fuck kind of bullshit is THAT?
Terry C - HATES Republicans |
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02.02.08 - 11:54 pm | #
Terry C, why, Republican bullshit, of course.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 11:55 pm | #
i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...
Terry C, why, Republican bullshit, of course.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Absolutely.
Terry C - HATES Republicans |
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02.02.08 - 11:55 pm | #
The infliction of Freddy Fender on diners is grounds for justifiable homicide...take out whoever you need to DWD, it's on the house.
catalexis |
02.02.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Certain parties seem to be obssessed with trolls.
Mr French |
02.02.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Not only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...
ProfWombat
There actually was one this evening. Seems the Boston Bruins cannot skate with the Wings. 3-1 was the final.
DWD - January is gone? |
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02.02.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Terry, is it possible to prefer Obama for the nomination and not be a Hillary-hater?
Yes.
I don't hate her at all- I like her quite a bit, but I'm still leaning towards Obama.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.02.08 - 11:56 pm | #
"But they made us listen to this horrendous caterwauling that was too loud, too stupid, and too annoying to ignore. I believe it was called country music but it sounded like nothing that has ever been played through anything I have ever owned so it is hard to say."
Toby Keith and Charlie Daniels?
Terry C - HATES Republicans |
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02.02.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Certain parties seem to be obssessed with trolls.
Mr French
Worst Styx album ever, at least from the classic lineup.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.02.08 - 11:57 pm | #
i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...
The pee wee hockey final of the Quill Plains Winter Games?
olexicon, |
02.02.08 - 11:57 pm | #
and Le Canadiens won 4-1 vs the Islanders today. Tomorrow, they'll beat the Rangers as well.
plum p,better democrats please |
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02.02.08 - 11:57 pm | #
I don't want Hillary to be the President, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't do very well in that job.
With all of her baggage, I will gladly vote for her over anyone still shameless enough to caal themselves a Republican
MP |
02.02.08 - 11:58 pm | #
Hecate, a blessed St. Brighid's Day to you.
Thank you v. much! Had a house full of witches and a lovely ritual and dinner and Pagans all over the blogsphere are posting poetry as part of an annual poetry slam so I am almost drunk on poetry.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.02.08 - 11:58 pm | #
Women should have stopped hoping back in 1969?
Yes. You had a chance, you burned your bra, now fetch me a fucking eclair.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.02.08 - 11:58 pm | #
There was a shooting in Tinley Park, Illinois today, actually a robbery/murder scene. It wasn't too far from where I used to live.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.02.08 - 11:58 pm | #
Not only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...
ProfWombat
Which you, no doubt, will be glued to. So we'll have to enjoy our Calvados, fire, Chinese pastry, and a fluffy blanket tonight.
I don't hate her at all- I like her quite a bit, but I'm still leaning towards Obama
Today I beeped at Hillary people holdiing signs and waved at an Obama guy smiling broadly - Mr. Jill was confused. I'm still on the fence - MA will likely go to Hillary no matter what.
Jill |
02.02.08 - 11:59 pm | #
Not only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...
So who are the Yankees playing?
*ducks and runs out of room*
catalexis |
02.02.08 - 11:59 pm | #
TKS Terry C. I'm a dog show junkie.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #
Not only are some primaries coming up, but i've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow...
ProfWombat
Nobody's talking about that here in NYC...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #
sallyh!
Not glued, but I'll be checking in. And ya gotta have a sense of priorities about this stuff. I'll be right over. Just give me a few minutes to charge up the electrogravitics...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #
"tear in the beer" sounds like that manufactured 'duet' of Hank Williams sr & jr... sort of a low point for both, I always thought-- the video was really bad, they doctored (badly) some old footage of Hank sr to make it look like he was singing the same song.
nick carraway |
02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #
Superbowl Sunday is an excellent opportunity to catch up on yoga and navel gazing.
Mr French |
02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #
Crap.
Maddie is gigantic.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:01 am | #
DWD
There's some country music that I can really enjoy and a whole lot of bluegrass music that I love, but lately there is some really sucky country music.
I'm glad the steaks were good, though.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.03.08 - 12:01 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
No
DWD - January is gone? |
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02.03.08 - 12:01 am | #
Mr French | 02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #
Or watch that copy of Bertolucci's 1900 that's been sitting around for nearly a year....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:01 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
Come sit by me.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 12:01 am | #
Where the heck did all of these comments come from? I thought I replied to Terry C right away. Aaaarrgh.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 12:01 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
No.
In the words of former MVP Duane Thomas: "If it's The Ultimate Game, why are they playing it again next year?"
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:02 am | #
Mr French | 02.03.08 - 12:00 am | #
Or listen to Wagner's Ring Cycle (well, most of it).
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:02 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
I really don't care. I'm invited to two parties tomorrow and I'm trying to convince myself that it's ok to bail on both of them.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.03.08 - 12:02 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
Prolly not, but you know, some of us might care.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:02 am | #
I really don't care. I'm invited to two parties tomorrow and I'm trying to convince myself that it's ok to bail on both of them.
It is okay.
I'm bailing on the one I'm invited to also.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:02 am | #
Giants 2, Patriots 0....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #
the last Super Bowl I can remember watching was the '85 Bears vs _________-- which seems to say I don't remember it well, doesn't it...
nick carraway |
02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #
There's some country music that I can really enjoy and a whole lot of bluegrass music that I love, but lately there is some really sucky country music.
If Lori McKenna were where country music was at these days, I would have no problem with country music.
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #
Prolly not, but you know, some of us might care.
I don't give a fuck about that either.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
Mean Super Tuesday? Nope. I don't care either.
Endeavour Morse |
02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #
Hecate, just tell them you've got a brief due by Monday? A P&A? Emergency babysitting for G'son?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #
_________-- which seems to say I don't remember it well, doesn't it...
nick carraway |
Patriots, to fill that gap
Tonyb Eason at Qurterback for New England< Raymod Berry was teh coahc
olexicon, |
02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #
Hecate,
Technically, country music IS folk music. And I do dearly love some country music. But that is NOT the music they were playing. They were doing this bullshit that sounds like bad imitation rock with twangy guitars and terrible lyrics and really pretty shitty musicianship.
I love bluegrass. I like soft country songs - even as I type I am listening to Townes VanZandt - but not the Toby Keith kind of godawfulcaterwaulingnailsonblackboard bullshit.
DWD - January is gone? |
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02.03.08 - 12:03 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
I'll watch the game but here in the Boston area it is nonstop pregame shows. All day, every day. I can't wait till 2/6 (parade will be 2/5 if the Pats win).
Jill |
02.03.08 - 12:04 am | #
I've even heard rumor of an athletic contest on the morrow
I hope the damn thing is a tie. Then I hope they play sudden death after sudden death until all of their players are utterly exhausted and they never get beyond some pathetic score like 14-14. And all the sports people can talk about is how many bad records it set and how having no winner just fucks up the whole of sportsdom. That's what I hope anyway.
catalexis |
02.03.08 - 12:04 am | #
Giants 2, Patriots 0....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Make that Patriots 7 so res ipsa loquitur can win the office pool.
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:04 am | #
Hard not to get sucked into sports in New England. The Red Sox and Patriots are everywhere. So you go with the flow, a bit. Pretty harmless, good fun, as long as you don't mistake it for something serious.
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:04 am | #
I'm bailing on the one I'm invited to also.
We can bail together!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.03.08 - 12:04 am | #
we are serving chili cheese dogs, potato sald, chicken wings, pulled pork sandwiches, and brownie sundaes for dessert.
if more than 25 show up we will be screwed on the diogs, but the wings should get us through.
a perfect ending to a perfect season.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
02.03.08 - 12:04 am | #
Anyone pointed out that Atlantic City is on TCM?
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:05 am | #
I'll watch the game but here in the Boston area it is nonstop pregame shows. All day, every day. I can't wait till 2/6 (parade will be 2/5 if the Pats win).
Feh.
I'm reading McCullough's 1776.
I think those patriots would be appalled at the nonsense that goes on in America today.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:05 am | #
The best thing about SBS is the supermarket has sales on various delicious dips, chips and hormone enriched luncheon meats.
Mr French |
02.03.08 - 12:05 am | #
Am I the only person who doesn't give a fuck about the Super silly bowl?
In the thread below, listening to "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" from Cabaret, then reading Southern Beale's link about the Dem AL state legislator/retired teacher dragged from her shower at 6:15 in the morning by Federal agents on charges of not working enough hours at her parttime teaching job, brought by a US Atty with extremely high Bush Brownie Points was frightening.
Do they still have Kitten Halftime Show? That's all I'm interested in. I'm not a dog person.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
02.03.08 - 12:06 am | #
Prolly not, but you know, some of us might care.
I don't give a fuck about that either.
Yes, well, that's very nice. It always interests me when people like you say that when I'm called a dick for trying to motivate people to effect change. Curious.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:06 am | #
PATriots 10000 Giants negative infinty
Okay, THAT was funny.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:06 am | #
JeffCO | 02.03.08 - 12:05 am | #
And that Gandhi was on earlier?
I saw Atlantic City again a few months back. It's been years since I've seen it. Still holds up.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:07 am | #
Yes, well, that's very nice. It always interests me when people like you say that when I'm called a dick for trying to motivate people to effect change. Curious.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
We're talking about football. Get a grip man.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:07 am | #
Fourlegs: Henriette has little pink pimples at the very edge of her ears. Should i worry? she doesn't scratch herself more than usual in that region.
plum p,better democrats please |
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02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
they play minor league baseball about an hour away from me, and I went a couple of times last summer & really liked it... sit right behind home plate for 7 bucks, have a couple of beers & a brat & watch fireworks after the game... can't hardly wait for it to green up again.
nick carraway |
02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
Supposedly, there's going to be a commercial w/ some local Galuadette students, so that's at least a local interest.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
It always interests me when people like you say that when I'm called a dick for trying to motivate people to effect change.
Anyhoo, I suspect that you're often called a dick, not because you try to motivate people, but how you do it.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
I hope Petty goes out and says "Now that I've gotten your attention - let's end this fucking war!"
I think that's why Springsteen will never get that gig.
Jill |
02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
I'm reading McCullough's 1776.
Read it last year. What's striking is that Washington had big trouble with the "Patriots" not giving a shit anymore, and just leaving back to their familieies.
He actually had some shot over that to cut the practice out.
MP |
02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
The best thing about SBS is the supermarket has sales on various delicious dips, chips and hormone enriched luncheon meats.
Screw those. I stocked up on beer, of which many delightful brews were on special
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
What would a sports-thread be without 4LG to say "I don't give a fuck" ?
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
Wow.. weird "domo arigoto" joke on SNL rerun just now.
The Kenosha Kid |
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02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
Fourlegs: Henriette has little pink pimples at the very edge of her ears. Should i worry? she doesn't scratch herself more than usual in that region.
I have no idea- maybe she's allergic to something in her food?
I'd get it checked out.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:09 am | #
Oh, for fuck's sake.
We're talking about football. Get a grip man.
We're talking about people's interests. You dismissed them rather harshly. Some people might actually care for a variety of reasons. In my case, it's something I enjoy watching with my father every year--Mom used to participate as well. So you might consider that.
And while it's football, I do still find it funny that when I do "get a grip" and talk about something serious, I'm called a dick. Even when I don't use words like "fuck" and am very respectful. Odd, that.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:09 am | #
If we already missed Susan Sarandon's lemon-fresh scene, who cares?
Not in any way to diminish her admirable frontage, but she also acts a bit in it, as does Burt.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:09 am | #
What would a sports-thread be without 4LG to say "I don't give a fuck" ?
SteveLG
It would not be a sports thread at all
olexicon, |
02.03.08 - 12:09 am | #
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:08 am | #
Styx/Domo Arigato jokes are a little dated, don't you think?
Someone needs to tell the SNL writers that.
It wasn't an episode from 1983, was it?
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:09 am | #
Anyone that does not watch some of the Puppy Bowl is an Islamofascist sympathizer. The Kittens do the half time show. Many people have been known to pass out. Cold. EEppiness you know.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 12:10 am | #
What would a sports-thread be without 4LG to say "I don't give a fuck" ?
Thanks. The thing is I really like sports- I just can't get myself to care about professional sports the past couple of years.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:10 am | #
I'd get it checked out.
fourlegsgood
i will then. oh joy it is bringing her to the vet... not!
plum p,better democrats please |
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02.03.08 - 12:10 am | #
Not in any way to diminish her admirable frontage, but she also acts a bit in it, as does Burt.
JeffCO
You may well be right about that.
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:10 am | #
Anyhoo, I suspect that you're often called a dick, not because you try to motivate people, but how you do it.
Yes, I've heard that before.
It's so horrid of me that I point out that people might be able to take action. I mean, gosh, I once proposed withholding a symbolic amount from Federal taxes and was called an insane fool. Imagine that.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:10 am | #
And while it's football, I do still find it funny that when I do "get a grip" and talk about something serious, I'm called a dick. Even when I don't use words like "fuck" and am very respectful. Odd, that. NTodd,
I noticed you started a game you pigskin family loving overly serious dick. I'm already kicking your ass.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:10 am | #
Yeah, 0-0 at the gun. Penalties all over the place, every pass intercepted, then fumbled. Quarterbacks both sacked dizzy, offsides on every down, 300 4th down punts, all blocked. Ultimate sporting contest my ass...
Elmer, PHD |
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02.03.08 - 12:11 am | #
peace and humptiness forever
(WT AND NT-ODD< We WILL PICK UP game at my turn tommoree kthanxbai)
olexicon, |
02.03.08 - 12:11 am | #
I once changed the word 'they' to 'we' and was yelled at.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:11 am | #
We're talking about people's interests. You dismissed them rather harshly.
No, I said that I DON'T CARE- I didn't say that you shouldn't care.
Knock yourself out.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:11 am | #
It wasn't an episode from 1983, was it?
Horatio Saenz was in it, to give you an idea of the date.
The Kenosha Kid |
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02.03.08 - 12:11 am | #
Come to think of it, that might be an interesting game to watch. For 10 minutes or so...
Elmer, PHD |
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02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
olexicon: le Canadiens are doing very well!
plum p,better democrats please |
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02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
I noticed you started a game you pigskin family loving overly serious dick. I'm already kicking your ass.
Sorry, I can't hear you over the ambients, you cheating motherfucker.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:11 am | #
Thanks. Definitely a massively dated joke, then.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
I've been studying economics ... so watch it.
Doug Watts |
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02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
And while it's football, I do still find it funny that when I do "get a grip" and talk about something serious, I'm called a dick.
I've never called you a dick before ever, but is like or dislike of football anything to get excited about?
Mr French |
02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
A lot of Lancaster's movies hold up well.
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QuentinCompson |
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02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
"I'm Kilroy"??? I don't get it.
Maybe you weren't around when Kilroy was here.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
Winning in Super Bowl football means you own the world. Including Disneyland.
MP |
02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
Elmer: thanks so much for reminding me of the Mushroom Planet and Mr Bass' planetoid. Loved 'em, and haven't thought of 'em for 50 years or so...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
alright, this is getting to be a very silly thread.
i'm going to try to get some sleep.
Go see "Juno" if you haven't already.
watertiger |
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02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
If I produced the halftime show, I'd just ask I. Ron Butterfly to reunite, perform In-a-Gadda-da-Vida, and then go home. One band, one long song. Very easy and compact.
If it pisses off the world, tough.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:13 am | #
No, I said that I DON'T CARE- I didn't say that you shouldn't care.
I didn't say you said we shouldn't care. This is what I was responding to:
"some of us might care.
I don't give a fuck about that either."
You dismissed the fact that some of us might care. Not a very caring attitude from somebody who calls me a dick and an insane fool from time to time, hmm?
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:13 am | #
It's so horrid of me that I point out that people might be able to take action. I mean, gosh, I once proposed withholding a symbolic amount from Federal taxes and was called an insane fool. Imagine that.
Dood, you seem to think that your way is the only way.
And what the fuck does this have to do with me not caring about the super bowl?
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:14 am | #
A lot of Lancaster's movies hold up well.
I may have to put on Local Hero.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:14 am | #
QuentinCompson | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:12 am | #
Sweet Smell of Success, 1900, and The Leopard are still great.
Even though they dubbed Lancaster in the original version of The Leopard, he's still phenomenal.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:14 am | #
alright, this is getting to be a very silly thread.
I for one, will *not* participate in a very silly thread.
MP |
02.03.08 - 12:14 am | #
I've never called you a dick before ever, but is like or dislike of football anything to get excited about?
I'm not excited about that, oddly enough. I'm simply noting that some of us do like football, and when somebody does note that they might care and are hit with "I don't give a fuck about that, either," we might not entirely be happy with that.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:14 am | #
'The Swimmer' was an underappreciated, curious movie...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #
Go see "Juno" if you haven't already.
I watched it last night and loved it, however I had to wince at the idea of a sixteen yo girl being a huge Iggy Pop fan.
Mr French |
02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #
alright, this is getting to be a very silly thread.
I for one, will *not* participate in a very silly thread.
MP | 02.03.08 - 12:14 am | #
Wots all this then
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #
I for one am glad we have our very own NTodd. The GOP wishes they had one but they don't rate. Now stop fighting all of you, sing the Beasts of the Field anthem, and watch out for tipsy pigs issuing signing statements. Night batsies.
catalexis |
02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #
I may have to put on Local Hero.
JeffCO
I loved that one, and there was no distracting boobage.
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #
Any actor that makes a fuss about doing his own stunts should watch "the crimson pirate"... Lancaster was having Big Fun.
& 'Burt Lancaster' was such an appropriate name... evokes something heavy & shiny coming down the tracks...
nick carraway |
02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #
Yuck it up now Liberals but the GOP will purify itself and return to it's true Reagan roots for total victory in 2010 and beyond.
Message to all closeted "gay" GOPers and those that mess with kids - don't walk, run your filth to Barney Frank's office as fast as you can you are not welcomed in America's Heartland party GOP
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02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #
Dood, you seem to think that your way is the only way.
No, I don't think my way is the only way, though you seem compelled to accuse me of that all the time.
And what the fuck does this have to do with me not caring about the super bowl?
Consider rereading the thread. You said you don't give a fuck about the game. I said some people might. You said you don't give a fuck about that either. I just think it's kinda funny that when I try to offer alternative actions for ending the war, engaging government, etc, I'm called a dick, but you can say you don't give a fuck about what other people might feel and you're totally cool.
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02.03.08 - 12:16 am | #
Compared to O, HRC's speeches have all the resonance of ShaNaNa at Woodstock.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.03.08 - 12:16 am | #
ProfWombat | 02.03.08 - 12:15 am | #
Yes, it was. Great film.
I saw Brute Force not too long ago. It was really good.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:16 am | #
Another vote for 'Local Hero', and jost about anything else Bill Forsythe did...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:16 am | #
I hope the damn thing is a tie.
Game called, due to Writer's Guild strike.
shawk |
02.03.08 - 12:17 am | #
Message to all closeted "gay" GOPers and those that mess with kids - don't walk, run your filth to Barney Frank's office as fast as you can you are not welcomed in America's Heartland party GOP
Watch out for the stampede!!!
Keep your felons - we'll take the rest.!
Jill |
02.03.08 - 12:18 am | #
I love you, you mad Moonbats. That's probably because, as Jack Kerouack said:
“The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”
Another vote for 'Local Hero', and jost about anything else Bill Forsythe did...
ProfWombat
Did he do "Gregory's Girl" and "Comfort and Joy" or do I have him confused with someone else?
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:18 am | #
'Comfort and Joy' is, after 'A Christmas Story', the second best Christmas movie ever made...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:18 am | #
Consider rereading the thread.
COnsider getting off your fucking high horse.
I'm pretty sure that everyone but you knew I was being snarky.
Feel free to keep feeling all victimized and put upon though.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:18 am | #
Was it Mr. Robato that ushered in the end of Styxx?
The only thing I remember about Styxx was some dopey police officer giving a speech about satanism at high school and claiming that the Styxx album 'Caught in the Act' had to do with the band getting caught doing satanic back-masking on their LP's.
I remember thinking back then, my parents tell me to get up early, eat my vegetables and do my homework every day and it never sucnk in.
How the hell is some subliminal message played backwards and only heard on occasion going to penetrate my skull.
I bought that on DVD, and found that when it was released on VHS in this country, they dubbed it with "better" sounding English voices.
On the DVD, you have a choice between the original Scottish soundtrack (which isn't that hard to figure out), and the English dub (mind you, it was English voices, not American ones, like they did on Mad Max when it got released on this country).
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:19 am | #
I have not seen Gregory's Two Girls, but I understand it is not that good.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:19 am | #
Comfort and Joy is one of the best Christmas movies.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.03.08 - 12:19 am | #
another amazing pic form deep space:
Iz pretty.
Looks like a giant space oyster.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:19 am | #
SteveLG: that's him...gentle, wry, loves his characters, never quite what you expect...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:19 am | #
Elmer: thanks so much for reminding me of the Mushroom Planet and Mr Bass' planetoid. Loved 'em, and haven't thought of 'em for 50 years or so...
ProfWombat
Yer welcome. I went looking a few years ago for a used copy, and was astounded at the prices. One was $150. Bit steep for me. I'd love to find a set for the g'niece and -nephew, but I guess Dr Seuss'll hafta do...
Elmer, PHD |
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02.03.08 - 12:19 am | #
Is the UK still turning out "small" movies as great as the ones from the seventies and eighties?
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:20 am | #
I loved Clare Grogan in Gregory's Girl.
The Kenosha Kid |
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02.03.08 - 12:20 am | #
Comedy gold: RedState tells people not to be bigots and they argue their right to do it:
http://www.redstate.com/stories/
..._our_commenters
-- What is not fine, okay, or within the bounds of the rules, is to use Latino names as an insult. We are speaking, specifically, of "Jorge Arbusto" and "Juan McCain," although it's certainly possible that others are floating out there or may yet be invented. Allow me to clue anyone who thinks these names are funny or clever in to something: racism isn't clever or funny. If you think you've really zinged someone by calling them by a Latino name, that's a pretty reliable (nearly infallible, in fact) indicator that you don't like Latino people.
I know that many of you may come from other corners of the internets where this sort of thing is everyday fare, but be advised, it will not fly at RedState. If you want to complain vociferously about McCain, Bush, or anyone else's position on immigration, you may certainly do so, but if you can't do it in a way that doesn't indicate your disdain for Latino people, then you should probably do it elsewhere. Because you will just get banned for doing it here.
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02.03.08 - 12:20 am | #
COnsider getting off your fucking high horse.
I'm not on a high horse.
I'm pretty sure that everyone but you knew I was being snarky.
Oddly, I'm snarky and I'm sure people know that, but my delivery of that becomes an issue for you and some other people. Why is that?
Feel free to keep feeling all victimized and put upon though.
Golly, thanks for your permission. Because that's certainly what I live for.
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02.03.08 - 12:20 am | #
Elmer: thanks so much for reminding me of the Mushroom Planet and Mr Bass' planetoid. Loved 'em, and haven't thought of 'em for 50 years or so...
ProfWombat
Yer welcome. I went looking a few years ago for a used copy, and was astounded at the prices. One was $150. Bit steep for me. I'd love to find a set for the g'niece and -nephew, but I guess Dr Seuss'll hafta do...
BTW, my rocket fleet will NOT be made from plywood.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:21 am | #
NTodd: why don't you let this go? You're edging into 'self-righteous bully' mode.
nick carraway |
02.03.08 - 12:21 am | #
That Sinking Feeling too.
Then came to the US and made the decent Housekeeping with Christine Lahti, then it was kind of downhill with Breaking In with Burt Reynolds and Being Human with Robin Williams.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:21 am | #
"Oh, that's right, this isn't a bastion of Clinton apologists. - Keep moving the goalposts. You asserted that from the beginning this place was a den of Clintonistas, when nothing is further from the truth. I'm not a Clinton supporter, nor an apologist. I simply observe that saying she's definitely going to lose is bullshit.
And being the expert historian you claim to be - I'm squinting real hard and can't seem to find the place where I ever claimed to be an expert historian.
In 68, with the country turned solidly against the war, it elected who? The conservative hawk.
In 04, with the country turning against the war, it elected who?
So, my dear Tacitus, why should we expect this trend to change? - 1) Then no Democrat will win, Hillary, Obama, Edwards, Kucinich or Wes fucking Clark.
2) TurnING against the war is not the same as turnED, and Kerry ran a piss poor campaign.
3) You might want to check you assertion that the country had turned against the war in 68. The under-30 crowd was still in support, and there are often other issues decided during an election, oddly enough.
4) Today 70% are against the war, Bush is polling significantly lower than Nixon was during Watergate, the Democrats owned the Vietnam war, etc.
5) The Principle of Induction might work WRT to the sun rising in the east, but this is politics.
NTodd, Thread Führer"
You're right, these couldn't be the attitudes or words of someone who claims to be an expert historian...
NTodd: why don't you let this go? You're edging into 'self-righteous bully' mode.
He's always in that mode.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:22 am | #
Message to all closeted "gay" GOPers and those that mess with kids - don't walk, run your filth to Barney Frank's office as fast as you can you are not welcomed in America's Heartland party GOP
the Part of Boner? never gonna happen, but it would be fun to watch the unhinged fundies flip out when they realize Tony Perkins likes taking it up the ass almost as much as Senator Huckleberry does.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
02.03.08 - 12:22 am | #
I was halfway through "Juno" when I recognized Ellen Page as the same youngster who played Jim Lahey's daughter Trina in "Trailer Park Boys".
She's very talented.
Mr French |
02.03.08 - 12:22 am | #
Is the UK still turning out "small" movies as great as the ones from the seventies and eighties?
SteveLG | 02.03.08 - 12:20 am | #
I really loved all the Merchant Ivory films as well as everything Kenneth Branagh produced. Are there others? (I'm not much for violence but love a good movie).
Jill |
02.03.08 - 12:24 am | #
If there are no trolls around, NTodd goes after one of us. I never thought I would say this, but bring back Petzold!
The Kenosha Kid |
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02.03.08 - 12:24 am | #
I was halfway through "Juno" when I recognized Ellen Page as the same youngster who played Jim Lahey's daughter Trina in "Trailer Park Boys". She's very talented.
I thought she did very well with what could have been a fiasco in Hard Candy.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:25 am | #
SteveLG
The U.K. film industry isn't very prestigous now. They are still making films (Mike Leigh and Ken Loach churn out one a year or so), but it's not what it used to be.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:25 am | #
Check out most things by Mike Leigh.
JeffCO
A brief check of his filmography discloses nothing I've seen or heard of.
Thanks for the tip.
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:25 am | #
Racism isn't clever or funny? Getr Limbaugh, Savage and Beck on the line, pronto!
NTodd: why don't you let this go? You're edging into 'self-righteous bully' mode.
How meta. I asked a question, am told I'm on a high horse, and I feel that's not a fair accusation. I'm not supposed to take issue with such things?
He's always in that mode.
Fuck you. Really.
I am not self-righteous. I do not think my way is the only way. Yet the first fucking time I broach the idea of a possible action, I'm called insane. If I try to defend it, I'm called a dick and self-righteous.
Why can I not try to effect change and try to rally others to join me in considering how to do it? It's really insulting and disappointing to see erstwhile allies reject my questioning out of hand, then when I try to continue the conversation, tell me I'm somehow a bad person and on a high horse.
I've said time and again there are myriad ways to resist. My way is not the only way, but I suggest that perhaps in many cases people don't know about the nuances and variations of the actions I talk about. The tax thing is a good example: by continuing to talk about it, I know some people are sending a protest letter with their returns this year, and others are witholding a symbolic amount. I feel good about that.
It's not saying you have to. But I would appreciate not being called insane for choosing a path of resistance and trying to demonstrate that regular people can do pretty powerful things.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:26 am | #
NTodd - bullies like you don't scare me, hit me with your best shot momma's boy.
How am I bullying anybody right now?
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:27 am | #
SteveLG | 02.03.08 - 12:25 am | #
Topsy Turvy is excellent. The DVD is out of print, but it plays a lot on cable, especially Sundance.
Naked, Secrets and Lies, and Vera Drake are good places to start.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:27 am | #
A brief check of his filmography discloses nothing I've seen or heard of.
In that case I'd start with something like Secrets & Lies or Career Girls. Or All or Nothing, or High Hopes....
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:27 am | #
Domo Arigato, huh? I'll see your Japanese and raise you my Greek!
Comedy gold, I tell yuh ...
-- However, the use of latino variations of McCain's name APPEAR as racism because it insults an entire race. My point was that, in most cases, I believe this was unintentional.
In the world of political debate, appearance is everything. If you appear to be racist, then you will be considered one. Leon was right to make his request because these commenters are profaning what is a legitimate position with regard to illegal immigration.
it's not what it used to be.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
"Little Voice" and "Saving Grace" were more recent examples of the type of British movies I've liked, but even those weren't, I think, of the same caliber as the Forsythe films already mentioned.
SteveLG |
02.03.08 - 12:29 am | #
RMJ: that's easy for you to say...
ProfWombat
Knowing what it says, is another matter.
I really need to practice it more....
Rmj, haz theological |
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02.03.08 - 12:30 am | #
i don't like it when atriots and atriettes fight among themselves. so i'm going to bed
Saying "fuck you" is hardly self-righteous, you fuckless assmunch.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:30 am | #
Ah, an irony fight.
My money's on NTodd. Let me know how it turns out.
I'm going to bed.
Rmj, Theologist |
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02.03.08 - 12:31 am | #
Stephen Frears is pretty good too. Sammy and Rosie Get Laid, Prick Up Your Ears, My Beautiful Laundrette, The Snapper, The Van....
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:31 am | #
"Notes on a Scandal" was a very good recent British movie.
The Kenosha Kid |
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02.03.08 - 12:32 am | #
"Saying "fuck you" is hardly self-righteous, you fuckless assmunch."
Does an irony tire get mounted on a ferrous wheel?
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:32 am | #
SteveLG | 02.03.08 - 12:29 am | #
Or the early Ealing comedies, the angry young men films, Lean's work, or Powell and Pressburger's work.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:32 am | #
Strike the hammer while the irony is hot, yeah ...
Bunny Wailer |
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02.03.08 - 12:32 am | #
JeffCO | 02.03.08 - 12:31 am | #
Forgot about him, oops....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:33 am | #
Bullies like NTodd and Rush Limbaugh always go down in the end, they are actually cowards.
New kid on the block |
02.03.08 - 12:33 am | #
The Ealing Street comedies were some of what kept me going through college...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:33 am | #
Get ta work, Mabel, there's a mountain of irony to do.
none |
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02.03.08 - 12:33 am | #
Puns...why'd it have to be puns?
Rmj, Theologist |
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02.03.08 - 12:34 am | #
ProfWombat | 02.03.08 - 12:33 am | #
The Lavender Hill Mob was wonderful.
Did you see The League of Gentlemen? It was a film with Jack Hawkins made in the early 1960's. It's wonderful.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:34 am | #
And Iron, Iron so far away ...
Flock of Seagulls |
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02.03.08 - 12:34 am | #
Puns! Because everyone's being a POOPYHEAD!
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:35 am | #
John Sayles' Secret of Roan Inish.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:35 am | #
Jesus loves me,
,cause he said
that he really wants me dead....
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 12:35 am | #
I hate the commercials for Juvaderm. There's also a competitor's product, with equally irritating commercials.
I earned those lines on my face, dammit. They're mine.
Injectable prescription gel to get rid of wrinkles? Give me a break.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 12:35 am | #
If there are no trolls around, NTodd goes after one of us. I never thought I would say this, but bring back Petzold!
Eh, well, I'm not bothered by his nonsense.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:35 am | #
"Notes on a Scandal" was a very good recent British movie
Yes.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:36 am | #
Even if one does believe that they could win a shit-flinging contest with a monkey, any human being with an IQ over 100 would also know that it's a pointless contest that proves nothing, and therefore a contest not worth entering.
ek ak |
02.03.08 - 12:36 am | #
John Sayles' Secret of Roan Inish.
Now you're talking about a great filmaker...Matewan, 8 Men Out...great stuff...
Chris Cooper, Dave Straithairn in Matewan were outstanding...
Elias |
02.03.08 - 12:36 am | #
'Kind Hearts and Coronets', 'The Wrong Arm of the Law', 'The Man in the White Suit'. Alec Guiness and Peter Sellars and all those guys. Not a wasted word, gesture, camera angle; nobody trying to bowl you over with technique. Just wonderful.
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:36 am | #
Zapette beat me at "Balderdash", but I got her back in Scrabble.
One and a half bottles of wine and the new Drive-By Truckers album later, we're quite sated.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.03.08 - 12:37 am | #
We had a lightning storm last night in the middle of a snow storm. It was kool, Massive thunder. QUite bizarre
Doug Watts |
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02.03.08 - 12:37 am | #
Get ta work, Mabel, there's a mountain of irony to do.
"Now I got nothin' but heaps a irony to do, and my diet pill is wearing off."
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 12:37 am | #
We had a lightning storm last night in the middle of a snow storm. It was kool, Massive thunder. QUite bizarre
That iz cool.
I've heard of that, but never been in the middle of one.
I think I read somewhere that it was becoming more common.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:38 am | #
Shit, I can't forget James Earl Jones...
Elias |
02.03.08 - 12:38 am | #
Bullies like NTodd and Rush Limbaugh always go down in the end, they are actually cowards.
So you can't answer the question, eh? How was my asking questions about the differences in perception "bullying"?
And I believe I've noted on many occasion that I'm a coward. I'm trying to change that with some of my actions over the past couple months. For example, I really hate meeting new people, particularly when I feel at some disadvantage, and yet I attended a gathering of war tax resisters who have been doing this shit in many cases for decades (including a Freedom Rider who's been a resister since 194. And then I went down to the Code Pink house in DC and actually did things I never would've imagined I could do--I even had fun.
So I'm trying to be the change I'd like to see. It's hard, but if I can do even what little I've done, I suspect other people can do even more.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:39 am | #
Holy shit, it's teh invasion!
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
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02.03.08 - 12:39 am | #
Irony lies over the ocean ...
Irony lies near Fletcher, VT
Irony lies in my ironies
So bring back my-rony to me ...
Doug Watts |
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02.03.08 - 12:39 am | #
Doug Watts: I was driving home in one of those storms once-- the lightning would flash and reflect off the snow, you could see for miles... it was like a giant arc welder at work. Kinda the same effect on the eyes, too.
nick carraway |
02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
Bob Gunton as the snitch...Matewan is so great man...
Elias |
02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
Look, it's late Saturday or early Sunday. I don't know what the groundhog saw. My life is ruined. We're all drunk.
Yeah!
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
If there are no trolls around, NTodd goes after one of us.
Just know that I will defeat you at pool this time, and then you might end up in my dead pool win column.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
Hi Folks. Speaking of movies. I just got back from seeing Michael Clayton the new George Clooney movie.
I really liked it. Anyone else seen it?
sp oc ko |
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02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
Daniel finally went down, and I was pleasantly surprised to hear the mating owls beseeching each other when I went out for a smoke.
one is in our Oak, the other in the live oak across the street. love me some owl song.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
"Now I got nothin' but heaps a irony to do, and my diet pill is wearing off."
Yer tired cus yer anemic. Now take yer irony pill and get back to yer ironying.
none |
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02.03.08 - 12:41 am | #
Matewan is good.
And Mordechai from "Children Of The Corn" and "Can't Buy Me Love" is in it.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.03.08 - 12:41 am | #
We're all drunk.
Yeah!
candymarl | 02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
I'm not, but there's a bottle of wine in the closet, and a bottle of Guiness in the fridge calling me...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:41 am | #
So I'm trying to be the change I'd like to see. It's hard, but if I can do even what little I've done, I suspect other people can do even more.
NTodd, Thread Führer | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:39 am | #
---
You just like being ogled at by hott Code Pink chix ...
Doug Watts |
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02.03.08 - 12:42 am | #
Are there others? (I'm not much for violence but love a good movie).
Jill
Truly,Madly,Deeply is a terrific movie.
footloose |
02.03.08 - 12:42 am | #
Janeane, you're a slacker! Open the wine. Open the wine. Open the wine....
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 12:43 am | #
You just like being ogled at by hott Code Pink chix ...
I made NTodd give their panties back.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 12:43 am | #
sp oc ko | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
I saw it. It was pretty good. Clooney was excellent as usual.
I didn't like the Tilda Swinton role, though. Very one dimensional, and she's a great actress, so it's doubly disappointing that she wasn't given anything interesting to do.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:43 am | #
You just like being ogled at by hott Code Pink chix ...
Duh. I love to Snack Pink. And I love my ladiez...
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:44 am | #
I find Sayles didacticism boring. Matewan wa sa good story but a slow film that could have been 20 minbutes shorter.
8 Men Out was OK, but I go to movies to be entertained, so if you are going to preach it damn well better be entertaining.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
02.03.08 - 12:44 am | #
Doug Watts: I was driving home in one of those storms once-- the lightning would flash and reflect off the snow, you could see for miles... it was like a giant arc welder at work. Kinda the same effect on the eyes, too.
nick carraway | 02.03.08 - 12:40 am | #
--
I was in bed, reading at 2 a.m. I thought someone hit the telephone pole. Huge flash of light. Then a MONSTER crack and rumble. And it's snowing. IN Maine. IN February !!! I love thunderstorms.
Doug Watts |
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02.03.08 - 12:44 am | #
So you can't answer the question, eh? How was my asking questions about the differences in perception "bullying"?
And I believe I've noted on many occasion that I'm a coward. I'm trying to change that with some of my actions over the past couple months. For example, I really hate meeting new people, particularly when I feel at some disadvantage, and yet I attended a gathering of war tax resisters who have been doing this shit in many cases for decades (including a Freedom Rider who's been a resister since 194. And then I went down to the Code Pink house in DC and actually did things I never would've imagined I could do--I even had fun.
So I'm trying to be the change I'd like to see. It's hard, but if I can do even what little I've done, I suspect other people can do even more.
Blah, blah, blah...aren't you forgetting something?
Words like, "F" you, or "Assmunching..."?
Your prose just seems to suffer without those fine words...
NTodd invaded me once. But perhaps I've said too much.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 12:44 am | #
Hi Folks. Speaking of movies. I just got back from seeing Michael Clayton the new George Clooney movie. I really liked it. Anyone else seen it? sp oc ko
How *dare* you insult the midwest like that you bastard!
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:45 am | #
Yes, ma'am....
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.03.08 - 12:45 am | #
is this troll the same stalker NTodd had last month, or is it a new one?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari |
02.03.08 - 12:46 am | #
Blah, blah, blah...aren't you forgetting something?
Words like, "F" you, or "Assmunching..."?
Your prose just seems to suffer without those fine words...
This seems like a rather superfluous comment, you bile-laden fuckwart.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:46 am | #
I didn't like the Tilda Swinton role, though. Very one dimensional, and she's a great actress, so it's doubly disappointing that she wasn't given anything interesting to do.
ProfWombat, Thanks! Gonna grab a couple of those. Sadly, the whole series doesn't seem to ba available at those prices. Example;
A Mystery For Mr. Bass
Cameron, Eleanor
Bookseller: Book Rescue!!
(Burdett, NY, U.S.A.)
Bookseller Rating: Price: US$ 320.00
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Think I oughtta read these through before i giove 'em? Just as a quality check, to be sure all the words are there...
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02.03.08 - 12:48 am | #
Y'know, you yell at someone for cursing; then, after a post in which he doesn't curse, you yell at him for not cursing.
That's nothing if not consistent. And there's nothing worse than half-dead gagh...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:48 am | #
NTodd, are you pushing kids around in the school yard for their lunch money again?
EkCenTriK |
02.03.08 - 12:48 am | #
Baby rib crotch liner ?
Really good with BBQ sauce.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:48 am | #
Elmer: haven't seen 'em in a long, long time, but I'd bet they'd make me smile a bit...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:49 am | #
So you can't answer the question, eh? How was my asking questions about the differences in perception "bullying"?
No, see, what you don't get is that some people have a little trouble getting past the obscene words regardless of whether they agreed with you or not or whether the point was a good one, or any of that.
What you don't get is that you're abrasive and obnoxious as I am too and I admit that, but at least I try to keep it on a higher level brother by not trying to insult people personally!
Damn! This shouldn't be the way a Saturday night should be!
Led by the eponymous Lysistrata, the story's female characters barricade the public funds building and withhold sex from their husbands to end the Peloponnesian War and secure peace. In doing so, Lysistrata engages the support of women from Sparta, Boeotia, and Corinth. All of them, at first aghast at the suggestion of withholding sex, finally agree swearing an oath of allegiance to the cause.
Y'know, you yell at someone for cursing; then, after a post in which he doesn't curse, you yell at him for not cursing.
I'm fucked if I do, damned if I fucking don't. Oops, I'm sorry, that was either self-righteous of me or I'm playing the victim.
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02.03.08 - 12:50 am | #
NTodd it was so good, that the universe came to standstill, restarted, the galaxies began to rotate in reverse, black holes became white, and white holes became black. Stephen Hawking finally acknowledged my brilliance. That's how good it was.
But perhaps I've said too much.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 12:51 am | #
NTodd, are you pushing kids around in the school yard for their lunch money again?
Of course not. I'm simply nonviolently occupying their wallets.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:51 am | #
NTodd: worse than that, you're a self-righteous victim. And a POOPYHEAD!
Guess I showed you...
ProfWombat |
02.03.08 - 12:52 am | #
"
Of course not. I'm simply nonviolently occupying their wallets."
Oh, no problemo then.
EkCenTriK |
02.03.08 - 12:52 am | #
NTodd it was so good, that the universe came to standstill, restarted, the galaxies began to rotate in reverse, black holes became white, and white holes became black. Stephen Hawking finally acknowledged my brilliance. That's how good it was.
[scuffs shoe in dirt]
Please leave your fiddy cent on the dresser.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:53 am | #
Lysistrata didn't have to deal with internet porn.
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 12:53 am | #
"I really hate meeting new people"
NTodd, I didn't know that. It was you, before anyone else who welcomed me to the blogging world. For all this blather about NTodd being a bully I actually think the opposite.
His desire to engage people and to get them to think and take action is quite astonishing. He does have that potty mouth, but hey not everyone is following the words of Red Skelton. I don't work blue, but it works for others.
I'm the kind of person who likes to take action that is effective. And I'm open to all sorts of ways to accomplish the goal. There are multiple layers to any communications strategy and there are many ways to resist the war and this government.
For some it's writing, for others it's money for still others its direct action. They are ALL needed. I think about my skill set and think about how I can help push back on the terrible negative people and war supporters in the world. Based on my skills I acted. I expect other people to act based on their skills (and maybe even some skills they don't know they have.)
sp oc ko |
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02.03.08 - 12:53 am | #
See man, you're better than that, and if I could make an argument as well as you do, I'd do it without resorting to the trash talk, but you throw it all away when you resort to that. That's what's so damn frustrating.
Elias |
02.03.08 - 12:54 am | #
NTodd: worse than that, you're a self-righteous victim. And a POOPYHEAD!
Guess I showed you...
Damn, now I guess I have to root for the Jints tonight. Hmmm...that will get me some nooky from watertiger, or Kenosha.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:54 am | #
I think Lysistrata's words were:
No Action ...
NO ACTION
in Minoan ..
Doug Watts |
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02.03.08 - 12:56 am | #
I think about my skill set and think about how I can help push back on the terrible negative people and war supporters in the world.
--
Going to their blogs and calling them ignint assholes is one place to start ...
Doug Watts |
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02.03.08 - 12:57 am | #
I'm hoping that godaddy.com achieves another level of stupidity during the Super Bowl.
That's what I'm rooting for...
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02.03.08 - 12:57 am | #
Yup. It's rather funny that I went into a field where I had to do that on a weekly basis. First day of class is always severe stress for me, even with medication. I thought it would go away once I really knew the material and had my schtick down pat, but nope, for 15 years it's been the same gut-wrenching experience to be on stage, even my college courses. And social settings? Bloody hell.
That aside, I welcomed you to the blogging world, such as I could with burned brownies wrapped in reused tinfoil, because you're a fucking Vulcan, and you did good stuff that we needed more of. So I'm extremely happy that you've thrived in this environment and really done good works. Especially impressive for a guy with all of 6 readers (IIRC, that was your sig at Candleblog back in the day).
Oh, I'm also proud to have been a part of your outing. Remind me to take more incriminating pics at the next Eschacon.
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02.03.08 - 12:58 am | #
I think Lysistrata's words were:
No Action ...
NO ACTION
Well, "no peace, no pussy" is really just a paraphrase.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 12:59 am | #
Remind me to take more incriminating pics at the next Eschacon.
I don't like the sound of that...
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.03.08 - 1:00 am | #
What do you think it's like to come in here with an honest desire to engage in some stimulating debate and show my support for a candidate in 2000 who shall remain unnamed and then to get repeatedly ripped a new one for the past 7 yrs while expected to take it without an ounce of sarcasm or bitterness?
Yeah, I plead guilty.
Big freakin deal.
So much for unity and coming together and all that...
...saturday freakin night...
...I've had one too many red wines...
Elias |
02.03.08 - 1:01 am | #
Well, "no peace, no pussy" is really just a paraphrase.
When some strippers in SF went on strike some years back, they used "No Justice, No Piece."
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.03.08 - 1:01 am | #
That's what's so damn frustrating.
Perhaps I live to frustrate.
But I believe Casablanca is the apt cite here:
Ugarte: You despise me, don't you?
Rick: If I gave you any thought I probably would.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:02 am | #
NO PEACE
NO PIECE !!!
...
I think that's the original Mycenaean ...
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02.03.08 - 1:02 am | #
Remind me to take more incriminating pics at the next Eschacon.
I don't like the sound of that...
20 bucks gets you special dispensation.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:04 am | #
How *dare* you insult the midwest like that you bastard!
JeffCO | 02.03.08 - 12:45 am
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Wow! A call back from last night. Brilliant!
JeffCO, If the quatloo to dollar wasn't so weak these days I'd send you a couple of hundred just for that line. Unfortunatly, my quatloos were invested in sup-prime directive loans and what with the whole replicator economy taking off right now I'm not in a position to reward you for your humor. However, if you are at Eschacon the first intergalatic beer is on me.
sp oc ko |
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02.03.08 - 1:04 am | #
20 bucks gets you special dispensation.
/slams money down on counter
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.03.08 - 1:05 am | #
I think that's the original Mycenaean ...
You know, I dated a Classics Major after I graduated from college. She was my one Republican. She was very good with the ancient tongues...
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:05 am | #
/slams money down on counter
No need to be so violent. Just Paypal me, or bring Euros to Philly.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:05 am | #
Deposited sir! I won't say where. You'll have to search for it.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 1:06 am | #
Hard Candy? Pedophilia themed?
Andrew Vachss should sue.
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QuentinCompson |
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02.03.08 - 1:07 am | #
Just Paypal me, or bring Euros to Philly.
Now that Norway has closed their counselate here in town, the best I can do is Loonies...
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.03.08 - 1:07 am | #
Deposited sir! I won't say where. You'll have to search for it.
American Research Group Releases Skeptical Connecticut and Illinois Polls Inflating Clinton's Totals
depolled |
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02.03.08 - 1:09 am | #
Read the last line...
WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. (AP) -- Earl L. Butz, an outspoken U.S. agriculture secretary forced from office in 1976 for making a racist joke and once a dean at Purdue University, died Saturday. He was 98.
Butz died at his son's home in Washington, D.C., said Randy Woodson, dean of Purdue's College of Agriculture. He said Butz had traveled to his son's home last week for a visit with family and had been in poor health recently.
''It's a big loss for Purdue and Indiana agriculture,'' he said.
LIer |
02.03.08 - 1:10 am | #
GIANTS 33
PATRIOTS 27
YIPPEEEE!!!!
gO GIANTS!1
Elias |
02.03.08 - 1:10 am | #
morning bats
I jsut ealized that four glasses of red wine and you think you can see god in the compute screen...that's weird...
Elias
about two bottles for me before I start to see the big sky monkey...
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:10 am | #
NTodd, Mlle says she's ordering a pair. She liked.
Baby rib is soft, fine, stretchy cotton. God, boys are dumb
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:10 am | #
"I jsut ealized that four glasses of red wine and you think you can see god in the compute screen...that's weird..."
Yes? Your point.
Big G little o little d |
02.03.08 - 1:11 am | #
NTodd, Mlle says she's ordering a pair. She liked.
NOW will she marry me?
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:11 am | #
God, boys are dumb
We is? That's unpossible!
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.03.08 - 1:11 am | #
SO rasecretary forced from office in 1976 for making a racist joke and once a dean at Purdue University, died Saturday. He was 98.
So racism = longevity...hmmmm.
Elias |
02.03.08 - 1:11 am | #
First overtime game baby!!!
Giants 33
Pats 27...
Elias |
02.03.08 - 1:12 am | #
Flink. Scooonek. Befflirg.
Thers
one of the sweedish chef's lines...
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:12 am | #
Baby rib is soft, fine, stretchy cotton.
For her pleasure?
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:12 am | #
I think I just heard James Joyce burp.
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02.03.08 - 1:13 am | #
NOW will she marry me?
She's never had sex with you. Would you buy a pair of shoes without trying them on first?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:13 am | #
NTodd. Interesting. And I went into a field where you have to write alot and I don't really like to write. I used to get so stressed out by the writing I had to do I would pull my hair out.
But I like to meet new people, I like to perform. Why am I sitting behind a computer most days?
When I meet Mike Stark he said, 'Why didn't you want to go on CNN?'
I told him how strange it was to have to both hide and be anonymous when my natural inclination is to be open. But I also understood the power of some mystery in the story and the narrative taking on a universal "I am Spartacus" feel.
sp oc ko |
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02.03.08 - 1:13 am | #
Flink. Scooonek. Befflirg.
I'm very disappointed that I couldn't kill you off during the ice storm.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:13 am | #
She's never had sex with you. Would you buy a pair of shoes without trying them on first?
Tell her she has nice shoes. And I want to go home with her.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:14 am | #
I also understood the power of some mystery in the story and the narrative taking on a universal "I am Spartacus" feel.
You're Spartacus? I thought you were Spocko. YOU BIG FAT LIAR!
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:15 am | #
NTodd, your Pack and ours...it's going to be very, very cozy.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:15 am | #
JeffCO, If the quatloo to dollar wasn't so weak these days I'd send you a couple of hundred just for that line. Unfortunatly, my quatloos were invested in sup-prime directive loans and what with the whole replicator economy taking off right now I'm not in a position to reward you for your humor. However, if you are at Eschacon the first intergalatic beer is on me. sp oc ko
I've had the Romulan Ale. Now it's time to watch some enhanced nomad on TOS. Night all!
JeffCO |
02.03.08 - 1:15 am | #
Did someone sahy beer???
Elias |
02.03.08 - 1:16 am | #
I'm very disappointed that I couldn't kill you off during the ice storm.
You really have to stop getting so drunk while on Liberal Mountain.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:17 am | #
I'm very disappointed that I couldn't kill you off during the ice storm.
No key parties for you.
Thers |
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02.03.08 - 1:17 am | #
Great lakes breweing company makes good beer..damm good beer...
Elias |
02.03.08 - 1:17 am | #
NTodd, your Pack and ours...it's going to be very, very cozy.
Way I figure it, I have 6 mammals in bed most nights. What's one or two more? Happens to be pretty good birth control, too...
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:17 am | #
Would you buy a pair of shoes without trying them on first?
No, they have to be loose.
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02.03.08 - 1:18 am | #
NTodd, we ordinarily have four. #5 sleeps in Monsieur's home office, #6 on Mlle's bed. Maddy sleeps in the same room with Mlle.
There's a lot of something going on, but it ain't sex.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:19 am | #
In my unscientific polls, Hil brings the working class women's vote(You know, the people who run what's left of this country) and Obama brings the yout'
They may bring on a pitchforks and torches thing that will surprise them:
Hil: John, what do we do now?
John: This is what you want, this is what you get..rpt.
a. hooliganensis |
02.03.08 - 1:19 am | #
"Why buy a shoe when you can get the foot for free?"
Boxes. For the cats.
Big G little o little d |
02.03.08 - 1:22 am | #
Yeah, that's some funny shit.
Goodnight, all.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.03.08 - 1:22 am | #
NTodd, I was once asked during a discussion regarding abortion when life began.
I said, I'm not sure, but I'm guessing it's when your kids move out.
Until then, the animals are gonna have to keep us warm.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:23 am | #
leave on a hight note brother, or a low note...either way...
Earl Butts |
02.03.08 - 1:23 am | #
See, I could totally adjust to that, being that it's exactly my current lifestyle.
Maybe you should be less homicidal.
Thers |
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02.03.08 - 1:24 am | #
NTodd, I'm a bit concerned...you might not get to eat Ramen noodles every night. Could you cope with, you know, real food, and not fart all the time?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:24 am | #
"NTodd, I'm a bit concerned...you might not get to eat Ramen noodles every night. Could you cope with, you know, real food, and not fart all the time?"
Careful NTodd, she is attempting to constrain your personal freedoms and emissions.
Big G little o little d |
02.03.08 - 1:26 am | #
NTodd, I'm a bit concerned...you might not get to eat Ramen noodles every night. Could you cope with, you know, real food, and not fart all the time?
Sallyh
jeez...asking a guy to adjust a little is cool, but asking him to give up ramen?
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:26 am | #
NTodd I'm a mammal. Homo sapiens sapiens to be exact. Sometimes the science overtakes me. Makes me name galaxies, planets, and moons. I watch space documentaries, Carl Sagan, and Nova.
I'm sorry. I'm being much too forward.
I'll go now.
/slinks away
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 1:26 am | #
Maybe you should be less homicidal.
No, I'm pretty sure I'll get more if I'm more homicidal.
Could you cope with, you know, real food, and not fart all the time?
So long as we do this gradually, I might be able to cope. Otherwise, I'll just hide my ramen in the closet.
Hey, me gravatar finally appeared!
Thers |
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02.03.08 - 1:29 am | #
NTodd I'm a mammal. Homo sapiens sapiens to be exact. Sometimes the science overtakes me. Makes me name galaxies, planets, and moons. I watch space documentaries, Carl Sagan, and Nova.
I'm sorry. I'm being much too forward.
I'll go now.
/slinks away
candymarl
My favorite episode of Cosmos is #6 (Traveler's Tales).
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:29 am | #
Hey, me gravatar finally appeared!
Thers
it gives you strength
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:30 am | #
NTodd, you may have your Ramen. You might have to eat other things, though. Like steak, and salad, and fruit. And poundcake.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:31 am | #
You mean where Sagan takes a virtual tour of the universe? I've done that before. He's a piker.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 1:32 am | #
The transporter accident in the first Star Trek film really creeped me out.
sp oc ko |
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02.03.08 - 1:32 am | #
poundcake has a low flatulence coefficient
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:32 am | #
Matthew, have you tested this hypothesis?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:33 am | #
You mean where Sagan takes a virtual tour of the universe? I've done that before. He's a piker.
Voyager I and II, compared to the Dutch explorers during the time of Huygens.
But now I am reminded of The Right Stuff: you blokes do that, too?
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:33 am | #
Sometimes the science overtakes me. Makes me name galaxies, planets, and moons. I watch space documentaries, Carl Sagan, and Nova.
Ao much for science and evolution, are you ready to embrace Karma!!
Jet |
02.03.08 - 1:34 am | #
I don't like in the war of the worlds remake Tom Cruise had to take out Tim Robbins.
Also Dakota Fanning? That scream just got more and more annoying.
sp oc ko |
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02.03.08 - 1:34 am | #
Matthew, have you tested this hypothesis?
Sallyh
methane 2ppm
isobutane 1ppm
swamp gas 9ppm
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:35 am | #
The transporter accident in the first Star Trek film really creeped me out.
"What we got back didn't live long...fortunately."
Yes, that poor Vulcan. But hey, that let us have Spock back!
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:35 am | #
poundcake has a low flatulence coefficient
::matthew
So does Ted Haggard, I hear.
Jet |
02.03.08 - 1:35 am | #
Spocko, Monsieur's watching that flick right now. All I keep hearing is that girl shrieking. I'm ready to bitch slap the child silly or, worse, give her the Teacher Look.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:35 am | #
I don't like in the war of the worlds remake Tom Cruise had to take out Tim Robbins.
He had to so as to demonstrate how caring a father he was. Sorta like invading Iraq.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:36 am | #
Those of us to have traveled the stars have seen many things. Usually after visiting Terra and consuming large quantities of MD 20/20.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 1:36 am | #
All I keep hearing is that girl shrieking.
well, tom is kinda creepy
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:36 am | #
Matthew, did you perform several trials of poundcake alone, poundcake + salad, salad alone?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:36 am | #
I'm ready to bitch slap the child silly or, worse, give her the Teacher Look.
I can't do that. I don't establish classroom control on Day One. I even remark on that on Day One. But I also observe that I get paid the same whether they learn this shit or not.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:37 am | #
it gives you strength
And it's still full!
Thers |
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02.03.08 - 1:38 am | #
Matthew, did you perform several trials of poundcake alone, poundcake + salad, salad alone?
Sallyh
I'm pretty sure that as long as you don't eat what old beagles eat, you'll be fine
I could use a test slice of poundcake...better see how the strawberries perform too
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:38 am | #
There is no karma. Asimov was right.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 1:40 am | #
NTodd, what's your average classroom size?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:41 am | #
On the one hand I think, "Yeah some kids WOULD scream all the time." on the other hand I think most would be numb mute.
sp oc ko |
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02.03.08 - 1:41 am | #
And it's still full!
I'm reminded of an adventure Thor had...
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:41 am | #
ok bats
it's nighty night for me
be good...and watch out for the barking spiders
::matthew |
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02.03.08 - 1:42 am | #
Spocko, nearly died laughing during the promo for the Lost DVDs.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:43 am | #
NTodd, what's your average classroom size?
These days it's in the mid-20s, close to overload (for which my PD was just apologizing on Thursday as we hung out in one of the campus cafes). I miss the days when I had 6-8, but now these courses are required for a variety of majors.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:43 am | #
Dear Jet: Is not.
So there.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 1:44 am | #
I do like how in the war of the worlds the Aliens feed on human flesh. It just makes sense, live off the land instead of bring your supplies with you.
sp oc ko |
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02.03.08 - 1:44 am | #
NTodd, mine this semester is~80.
How about we trade?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:44 am | #
And now, I'm going to bed. Oiche mhaith duit, a cairde.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.03.08 - 1:45 am | #
NTodd, mine this semester is~80.
How about we trade?
No. I'd never finish grading.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:46 am | #
i'm glad people are getting emotionally attached to obama because then i won't have to ring as many doorbells this year.
notaboomer |
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02.03.08 - 1:46 am | #
I'll also observe I'm just an adjunct. I earn about 15 cents an hour and don't even get a parking space, let alone an office.
NTodd, Thread Führer |
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02.03.08 - 1:47 am | #
I wonder if Einstein knows now that, for the most part, he was right. I wish someone would publish the Unified Theory of Everything. String Theory? Still not convinced about that one.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 1:48 am | #
String Theory? Still not convinced about that one.
It appears to be a component of the unified theory, the latest surfer dude's math notwithstanding.
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to to to
Jet
Not not not. Boo on you.
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I wonder if Einstein knows now that, for the most part, he was right.
NTodd, what's your average classroom size?
No flirting!
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02.03.08 - 1:53 am | #
Not not not. Boo on you.
candymarl
What if humanity knew the truth? what would happen, what would you study? What would collge kids strive for?
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I understand it's a component but I think it may be bogus. The surfer guy? Yeah I saw him. Feh.
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02.03.08 - 1:54 am | #
String Theory? Still not convinced about that one.
Is that the one where the universe is a giant ball of yarn batted around by a cosmic kitten?
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I understand it's a component but I think it may be bogus. The surfer guy? Yeah I saw him. Feh.
I'm not convinced it's bogus. And the surfer guy seems rather compelling.
Actually, he's a snowboarder, but he teaches surfing, IIRC. And I think he's just 3 gym credits shy of his PhD. Just like Jeff Goldstein.
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Watching Spiderman 3. It's really true: with great powder, comes great responsibility.
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Watching some of The Time Machine (1960) on TCM today I noticed that the splendid music was by Russ Garcia. I've still got his arranging book stuck away somewhere.
Listening, I couldn't help thinking John Williams got some of his ideas, even riffs and orchestration from that soundtrack. Or, coulda been the herb.
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QuentinCompson |
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02.03.08 - 1:59 am | #
great powder,
"With great powder comes great highs."
-George W. Bush age 40
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How would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?
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Have a beer with them?
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QuentinCompson |
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How would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?
sp oc ko
Ask James Baker to set up a stock swap?
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Watching Spiderman 3. It's really true: with great powder, comes great responsibility.
Pffft. I learned that from Spiderbabe.
(I sure do miss Skinemaxblogging)
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How would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?
Ask them to hold hands with the Saudis?
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Jet:
If humanity knew the truth there would be mass suicide. I believe our brains are wired to protect us from the really awful truths. I would study Sidhhartha. It's not the destination but the journey. Trite but true. After all, there's only one destination for humans. The end of earthly existence as we know it. Maybe. I do believe that no journey is wasted. I'm still waiting for the ferryman.
candymarl |
02.03.08 - 2:05 am | #
With Susan Powter, comes grape jelly.
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Goldstein needs to clean up his Lassie porn.
/runs away
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I'm still waiting for the ferryman.
Word of advice: don't pay him.
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How would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?
Abandon Earth in order to attend a birthday party for John McCain?
Sherman was too liberal. He didn't burn enough. His soldiers should have dashed the brains out of each and every confederate baby. Or(pacifist repellent)
don't go to war in the first place.
Every bad and noxious idea that rots this country can be traced back to the southern aristocracy: the divine right of kings (bush's 1&2) the consumer plantation(your soaking in it) the honor of dying for your Master(pick one)
We could have been Denmark or Sweeden instead we're Italy circ. 1938, minus the food.
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How would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?
Tax cuts for the rich.
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With great pouting comes greater need for botox.
none |
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How would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?
Do the aliens have bald heads?
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02.03.08 - 2:13 am | #
Every bad and noxious idea that rots this country can be traced back to the southern aristocracy
Not really.
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02.03.08 - 2:13 am | #
minus the food
and the architecture
none |
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Tax cuts for the rich.
Endeavour Morse
Sad, funny and true.
George Johnston |
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02.03.08 - 2:14 am | #
How would G. W. Bush handle an invasion from another planet?
He'd catapault the propaganda?
He'd make the pie higher?
He'd put food on their children?
He'd let them practice their love ...
none |
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String theory includes giant kittens with giant balls of string. The kittens bat the balls of string at each other. The balls resonate when they hit the giant kittens. These balls of strings hold up the Earth. Like Atlas. The end.
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LALand, LAT -
"Lenders hiking required downpayments in L.A.
One last pre-Super Bowl Sunday post: Countrywide and other large lenders began requiring larger downpayments last week in counties where prices are falling. That includes pretty much all of Southern California. From Ken Harney's weekly column in the LATimes: "Countrywide Bank sent mortgage brokers a list on Jan. 25 that categorized hundreds of counties as soft markets with rankings from 1 to 5, in ascending order of perceived risk. In areas rated in Categories 4 and 5 -- roughly 100 counties in metropolitan areas nationwide -- Countrywide said it would now require larger down payments from most applicants. "If a loan program previously allowed a minimum 5% down payment, applicants will now be required to come up with double that amount -- 10% -- to qualify. "Riverside and San Bernardino counties are both ranked as Category 5, and Los Angeles, Orange, San Diego, Ventura and Santa Barbara counties are in Category 4." Is it fair to borrowers if lenders label an entire county as risky when the risk is concentrated in certain parts of the county? Probably not. "Ted Grose, president of Los Angeles-based 1st Mortgage Advisors Inc., said labeling entire counties as declining is 'ridiculous -- it totally fails to distinguish between areas where prices are rising or relatively stable and other neighborhoods orcommunities where they are not.' But on the other hand, if you are Countrywide, now would be a good time to start being more cautious."
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A startling surge of support for Barack Obama has catapulted the Illinois senator into a virtual tie with Hillary Rodham Clinton in California's Democratic presidential primary, a Field Poll released Saturday shows.
...the Democratic numbers are (a) shocker. Clinton, a longtime California favorite, saw her once-commanding lead slip to two percentage points, 36 to 34 percent, in the new survey. That's down from the New York senator's 12 percentage point lead in mid-January and a 25 percentage point margin over Obama in October.
But with 18 percent of Democratic voters still undecided just days before Tuesday's primary, the election is still up for grabs, said Mark DiCamillo, the poll's director.
"It's an unusually volatile election, with a very high number of undecided voters and so many moving parts," he said. "It could be a very, very close election."
When their valence shell is bombarded with bosons and TV ads.
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I'll never forgive Lincoln for not using nukes when he had the chance...
It's the fault of those fucking Border States, who didn't want the fallout.
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One of the areas of Science Fiction that I was really interested in for a while was, "How would various countries handle the arrival of aliens."
If I was an alien and I was observing earth I would NOT want to connect with the Americans. I'm thinking one of the countries that have a history of not killing everyone who is "the other" might be good. Also aliens have the potential to destroy economies if they wanted to. "Here our 93 percent effecent fuel cell plans have at it humans." Even throw away technology could replace entire markets.
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I'll never forgive Lincoln for not using nukes when he had the chance.
That would have solved the darkie problem, too, to his way of thinking.
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with bosons and TV ads
HAHAHAHA.
candymarl |
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If I was an alien and I was observing earth I would NOT want to connect with the Americans. I'm thinking one of the countries that have a history of not killing everyone who is "the other" might be good.
Yeah, but if you're the aliens in Independence Day, you want to connect with the Americans because blowing the living shit out of the WH would feel pretty fucking good.
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String theory includes giant kittens with giant balls of string.
Yes, but what is your giant kitten theory? Dark kittens? Is it kittens all the way down? Should we spay and neuter?
Is there a difference?
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Cool - over at PowerPop, they've got a Slade video!
Along those lines, he noted that 11% of job seekers relocated in the fourth quarter of 2007, down from 15.6% in the fourth quarter of 2006. John Challenger, CEO of Challenger, Gray & Christmas, said the much-publicized downturn in the housing market is also playing a role, as some job seekers are less willing to relocate to take a new job if it's going to mean taking a large loss on their current home.
Unintended consequences are a bitch.
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The kittens are outside of space and time as humans perceive it. During the spay and neuter process dark matter is produced. This matter can only be measured by the effect it has on the balls of string. I can't say more lest our alien overlords hear.
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You are correct sir!
Woo hoo!
When I was in high school, our drama class came up to SF to watch them film "Streets of San Francisco" at SF State.
I think that Brent Spiner was one of the best actors on ST:TNG. I also think that Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9 was a good actress. Do you see a pattern here?
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I, for one, am very glad GWPDA was unwilling to allow Arthur to devour Angel. The pup deserves a home.
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02.03.08 - 2:45 am | #
Karl Malden ( or "Butt Nose" as we used to call him) starred in a brilliantly written, short-lived TV drama called Skag with Piper Laurie playing his wife.
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They are unemotional people trying to connect with humanity! Geez Trademark Dave it's not as if I want to have sex with them! Where is your head at?
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I think that Brent Spiner was one of the best actors on ST:TNG.
Followed by Lore with a sarcastic repeat of the same line, "I am not less perfect than Lore."
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At first, I liked Tasha Yar , before she began droning on about the "rape gangs" and became a Romulan and left the show and everything.
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NTodd, you'd hit a brick wall. Goodnight.
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Another episode with Data I enjoyed - to a point - was the one where a scientist is working on tapping into some interdimensional barrier and starts screwing up the space-time continuum, so the Enterprise comes around to check it out, and it turns out his wife is Picard's former girlfriend.
Unfortunately, the wife was played by Michelle Phillips, and she was abominable.
But the episode's got one of my favorite Data scenes - he has to seal the "rip in time," and just as he's about to do so, the time effect kicks in and suddenly he sees three Datas, all working several seconds apart. They start asking each other who's the one that's really in the present, and finally the "real" Data holds up his hand and say "Me! It's me!"
Picard's spunky, scampy girlfriend on Raisa was the one I liked; back when Picard was a hottie for a season or two and let his "package" show as often as his roll-up keyboard and his funky "music."
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alt.sexy.bald.captains, bitches!
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02.03.08 - 3:11 am | #
"Vash" -- that was her name, I think.
plantsman |
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Thanks plantsman,
Frank Rich is a moron. He trivializes what he tries to memorialize.
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Howard DeVoto !!!
great song ...
Doug Watts |
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I didn't tell ya to read or agree, only linked.
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Finally,a reasoned and balanced opinion about the two of them.
I am already sick of the hype and starry eyed idealism.
Not to mention the ageism.
Atrios asked for a critique of the new Obama video a few threads ago. What's to critique?
It's a marketing ploy aimed at the kids under 30 who got off to a slow start under the bush economy.
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I didn't tell ya to read or agree, only linked.
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Thanks for the link ...
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Vash later starred in an Advil commercial, playing a hot but arthritic teacher, as I recall.
plantsman |
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Vash is the hero's name in Trigun, isn't it?
none |
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I'm a 46 year white women and I liked it.
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Frank Rich is a fucking moron. He could devote at least the lead of this column to the fact that this 2008 election is about candidates who are in favor of human torture, spying on U.S. citizens, and extraordinary rendition and undeclared war -- and those who are not.
That would be useful information, Frank.
What a fucking useless, preening tool ...
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02.03.08 - 3:17 am | #
How can the Dutch wait for this evening, when the investigative Dutch TV "journalist" will reveal the secret of what Urine Van der Sloot said about Natalee Holloway?
plantsman |
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how many people your age did you see in it?
none |
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how many people your age did you see in it?
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your age ?
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02.03.08 - 3:19 am | #
I'm a 46 year white women and I liked it.
I'm a 36 yo white guy and I liked it.
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Opinions vary widely as to what this election is about. I often find Rich a refreshing break from many of the punditoids.
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LOL...good point, but I still liked it. I bookmarked so I could show my kids when they come over tomorrow to watch the game.
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John McCain voted on Oct. 16, 2006 to suspend habeus corpus under the U.S. Constitution and to allow the torture of human beings. It's called the Military Commissions Act.
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02.03.08 - 3:21 am | #
Another McCain flip-flop that's difficult to understand is opposing the Bush Tax Cuts originally, but now pleading yet demanding they be made permanent for "the good of our economy".
Wisconsin is not a chocolate state but they crossed the line to vote for the brother.
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I thought it was technically professionally done, but mediocre in content.
And aimed at age 30 and under.
none |
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Massive numbers of suburban white kids say they'll vote for Obama.
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I think that Brent Spiner was one of the best actors on ST:TNG. I also think that Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9 was a good actress. Do you see a pattern here?
sp oc ko
Why do I keep thinking her Borg name was 6 of 9?
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And aimed at age 30 and under.
How is that a criticism?
Halfdan |
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Massive numbers of suburban white kids say they'll vote for Obama.
bert
Obama Girl for House Speaker!
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Young folks voting for Obama isn't much different than when young people bought Marvin Gaye albums in the 60's.
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It's been a long, hard slog for acceptance as humans for African-Americans -- first in sports and entertainment (how I grooved to Motown!), later in professions and politics.
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And aimed at age 30 and under.
How is that a criticism?
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Naw, naw; think of Kate Mulgrew's whiny voice as Janeway, "Seven...."
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I fear Obama might be the token house nigger for many whites. 'We don't let blacks into our neighborhood or club or town but we'll make an exception for one so exceptional and half white.'
bert |
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Atrios asked for a critique, not a criticism.
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President Hillary or President Barrack will at some point have a huge, colossal fuck-up during their term. However, it won't be as bad as George W. Bush's best day.
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bert, those are old fears that have held us back as a nation for centuries. And there's only one way to disprove them. George Bush using Collin Powell and Condi Rice as puppets has proven black folks can be incompetent tools, but it wasn't a fair test.
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I fear Obama might be the token house nigger for many whites. 'We don't let blacks into our neighborhood or club or town but we'll make an exception for one so exceptional and half white.'
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And you are Duke Ellington, keeping track of this stuff ?
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McCain got pummeled by Romney (58%) tonight in Maine and barely beat Paul by 2 points. Looks like Repubs agree - McCain is too old to make it to the finish line!
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For me, I like the fact that he is my age. I am 1 month older than he is and my husband is 3 months older than he is. My sons who are 23 and 22 yrs. old and love Obama. I couldn't get them to vote for Kerry and now they have a interest in politics. My older son tapes all the debates. I think Obama has generated an interest in the young that quite refreshing. Its about time the young start getting involved in politics and better yet, become Democrats!
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'We don't let blacks into our neighborhood or club or town but we'll make an exception for one so exceptional and half white.'
Again, how is that a problem? I'm not following this logic. Racists shouldn't be hypocrites?
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President Hillary or President Barrack will at some point have a huge, colossal fuck-up during their term. However, it won't be as bad as George W. Bush's best day.
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How do you know? Do you have ESP ?
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Then Maine got duped by Romney. Let's wait till Wednesday for a fuller assessment.
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Colin Powell. If the asshole who cleared Lt. Calley of war crimes during the Viet Nam had warned against going along with George Bush's war crimes instead of promoting them then he would have been elected President in 2004 as the Republican nominee.
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Oh, I agree getting old.
It is a good thing for the kids to get interested. When I was young, Vietnam was the motivation for getting involved.
I hope the kids don't get too disappointed if he isn't the nominee, if he loses the general, or if he turns out to be a better orator than president.
none |
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What does Colin Powell have to do with the 2008 presidential election?
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It's time we looked at how many jobs Bain Capital destroyed "turning companies around." (making them more profitable for the investor class)
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How do you know? Do you have ESP ?
Doug Watts
No. I play the odds. Surely, you have heard of the curse of the Bush photo-op?
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Colin Powell is an example of someone being given enough rope to hang himself, being asked to make a phony case for war -- and doing both.
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I hope the kids don't get too disappointed if he isn't the nominee, if he loses the general, or if he turns out to be a better orator than president.
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That's a loaded, pissant phony comment there. A 'better orator than president." Why not just say a "better dancer" than president?
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What does Colin Powell have to do with the 2008 presidential election?
If he had stood up to Bush/Cheney lies in 2003 instead of propagating them he would be running for re-election. Not that I would have voted for him either time.
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Its strange, my kids don't even talk about race. This Generation is definitely different than the one I grew up in. Their friends are many different races and backgrounds.
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Atrios asked for a critique, not a criticism.
Fair enough. The video shows mostly young people, but it also shows Kareem Abdul Jabar. I don't feel left out.
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Becuase I have heard him speak, but I haven't seem him dance.
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Again, how is that a problem? Wait till the sun goes down on Obama, till things get bad. Then you'll see a bait and switch style of racism. Electing him is just the beginning. This will turn into an emotional journey most whites won't be willing to face. And they'll take their country back.
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Then Maine got duped by Romney.
Maine has closed voting, only those registered as R's get to vote on that ballot.
So yeah, I'd go along with duped. Repeatedly, in fact. But duped or not, this is how the vote will go as we see less of the open voting and more closed.
Interesting that cable isn't covering the upset, isn't it?
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Wait till the sun goes down on Obama, till things get bad. Then you'll see a bait and switch style of racism. Electing him is just the beginning. This will turn into an emotional journey most whites won't be willing to face. And they'll take their country back.
Oh, please; enough with your longing for "the good old days" of white supremacy. You can't get there from here.
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but it also shows Kareem Abdul Jabar. I don't feel left out.
Not saying anything, just sayin'.
none |
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Whoever gets elected in 2008 could very well be the Herbert Hoover of the 21st Century.
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Their friends are many different races and backgrounds. getting old | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 3:39 am | #
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We all grew around kids of many genders, sexual preferences, backrounds, races and ethnicities. We always have in the U.S. It is only very recently we have been told it is allright not to hate or exclude or diminish the existence of some of them. Nothing has changed except our attitude ... hopefully.
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It's the weekend, The SuperBowl, and the middle of the night. Give them a minute.
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Its strange, my kids don't even talk about race. This Generation is definitely different than the one I grew up in. Their friends are many different races and backgrounds.
Mine too. I believe we have made good progress with our kids.
I do wonder if the country as a whole is still too racist to elect a black man or too sexist to elect a woman, though.
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This will turn into an emotional journey most whites won't be willing to face. And they'll take their country back.
I don't think so. Of course prejudice, bias, and double-standards will be the norm, as they were with Bill Clinton and as they would be with Hillary Clinton as well. But there's not going to be a revolution or anything, and certainly not anything like we saw in the 60s, when try as they could the whites didn't take the country back.
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WE have to get out and vote and PROVE we're not too racist or sexist.
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I would like the candidate to be Barack, but if its Hillary I will support her a 100%. The thought of rethugs back in the white house get me sick.
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Well, I know I'm gonna get out and vote but I'm not so sure my neighbors here in Texass are going to be taking the same attitude I will.
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Suddenly, Mama's popped Doris Day on the turntable and "Que Sera, Sera...." is playing:
"The future's not our to see -- what will be, will be."
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WE have to get out and vote and PROVE we're not too racist or sexist. plantsman | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 3:45 am | #
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I don't think that is a real problem. I think the Republicans over the last 20 years have cordoned off and captured most of the racist, sexist and homophobic voters. This has become the Republican base. Note the positions on gay rights by any Republican candidate, compared with Democrat.
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All we can do is speak our beliefs and hope others are affected as we are. But we owe it to ourselves to try.
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I hope the God the kids do get out and vote and not just use politics as a fashion statement.
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As a queer, I notice; trust me. I notice what demanding people live a lie or as lesser does to them and their spirits, and I hate it.
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All we can do is speak our beliefs and hope others are affected as we are. But we owe it to ourselves to try. plantsman | Homepage | 02.03.08 - 3:49 am |
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Yup. It's a scary time, but an invigorating time. We have to choose between HRC and BHO and I wish we still had John Edwards down to the wire. As my wife said, this is one of the best fields she's ever seen.
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02.03.08 - 3:51 am | #
I think racism nowadays has more to do with personal experience and socialization than with ideology. Sometimes I forget that my father grew up in a segregated world, and despite his strong intellectual support of civil rights he still thinks of African-Americans in a different context. And he's voting for Obama, fwiw.
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02.03.08 - 3:52 am | #
I wish we still had John Edwards down to the wire
me too
i miss john
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02.03.08 - 3:54 am | #
I've tried to weigh it carefully and make my decision based on experience and truth. Because I was born white under segregation and felt awful about it, I think my choosing Obama is understandable. I don't want to piss the women I admire off, but I'm not ashamed of my decision.
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02.03.08 - 3:54 am | #
Great picture, only got to see the speech in St Louis tonight on C-span and the crowd was big, but not as big as Boise.
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02.03.08 - 3:58 am | #
Frankly, I think Edwards would have done more for women than either of the others. My opinion.
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02.03.08 - 3:58 am | #
getting old, not so much you are. I'm almost a decade older, and I ain't done yet.
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02.03.08 - 3:59 am | #
We'll never know what Edwards "would have done."
He has had a large positive effect as it is.
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02.03.08 - 4:00 am | #
There is much about this election that the choices, and the choice itself, seems so much more monumental -- generational. It's either we take back our country now or we lose if for the rest of our lives. Being 43 years old, and 35 when fuckface stole the Presidency, it certainly seems like that on a rational level.
For this reason, I don't quibble over the minutiae of the Dem. candidates. It's like you need a face card to win all the money. And you're quibbling over whether it's a Jack, Queen, or King.
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02.03.08 - 4:00 am | #
Now I feel young, thanks. You know there is a reason I go food shopping on Tuesdays, because it is senior citizens day and feel like the youngest in the store.
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02.03.08 - 4:01 am | #
He has had an enormous effect in that he forced the other two to dialogue about issues they probably would not have touched otherwise.
I feel like he gets it about poverty. And poverty is a woman's issue, in my book.
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02.03.08 - 4:02 am | #
(hangs Yoda back in closet)
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Poverty is a human issue, that affects every type of human, please remember.
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02.03.08 - 4:03 am | #
There is much about this election that the choices, and the choice itself, seems so much more monumental -- generational. It's either we take back our country now or we lose if for the rest of our lives. Being 43 years old, and 35 when fuckface stole the Presidency, it certainly seems like that on a rational level.
I agree with all but fail to see why it's generational.
(I'm almost 60 btw)
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02.03.08 - 4:04 am | #
John Edwards has definitely pulled the debate into the working class-middle class discussion of disappearance of quality jobs that corporate Dem. contributors would prefer not to hear. That's why his absence now will be missed.
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02.03.08 - 4:04 am | #
He's not dead; it's said he negotiated with Clinton and Obama in advocacy for his issues.
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02.03.08 - 4:05 am | #
Poverty is a human issue, that affects every type of human, please remember
Well, that is surely true. I tend to see it through my own lens, which has to do with having been a poly marginalized woman...and poverty was a huge part of that
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02.03.08 - 4:05 am | #
I said generational because if Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton win in 2008 it will mark a fundamental change point in the history of the United States. If an old fucking white guy wins ...
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02.03.08 - 4:05 am | #
Some folks (Bless Their Hearts, as the Southern locution has it) gotta divvy people up and pit them against one another. To my mind, the disastrous failure of Conservatism shows this is ultimately fruitless -- but it hasn't stopped.
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02.03.08 - 4:07 am | #
It will be historic and landmark. The first time in all of American history.
Generational seems a little ...small?
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02.03.08 - 4:08 am | #
Some folks (Bless Their Hearts, as the Southern locution has it) gotta divvy people up and pit them against one another.
The passive aggression around here knows no bounds.
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02.03.08 - 4:09 am | #
Understood, none; as you naturally would. I just feel its time to get past our own frames of reference and "play one for the species."
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02.03.08 - 4:09 am | #
The passive aggression around here knows no bounds.
So does the Wal*Mart psychiatry.
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02.03.08 - 4:10 am | #
It doesn't matter to me which one it is.
It matters that it's one of us.
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02.03.08 - 4:11 am | #
I still thinking Edwards will have some important cabinet position. He is not done yet. Johns causes have not been wasted. Poverty rarely gets talked about and yet it must be addressed.
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02.03.08 - 4:11 am | #
So does the Wal*Mart psychiatry.
rofl
i hear ya....but some things are so freaking obvious that they must be said regardless of the personal consequences.
I'm thinking so, too; g.o. He's got a lot to contribute and Elizabeth is gonna live every minute she's got!
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02.03.08 - 4:13 am | #
I still thinking Edwards will have some important cabinet position. He is not done yet.
O, I think so too. I just wish he was still,in the race to drive the debate all the way to the convenrtion.
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02.03.08 - 4:13 am | #
When mama was finally winding down from fighting recurrent breast cancer, she still popped that wig on and made herself up and went out and LIVED!
Gosh, I admired her for that!
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02.03.08 - 4:15 am | #
By not endorsing, He has stayed above the fray and he is smart, because it keeps the issues he was fighting for alive.
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02.03.08 - 4:16 am | #
Soon-to-be 83 year-old Dad has come out for Obama.
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02.03.08 - 4:17 am | #
I feel like Murika is going to need to hear about poverty a little more before they are ready to do something about it. Jobs they understand. Trillion dollar wars they understand. Obscene health insurance costs they understand.
They need to hear more about the people who are falling through the cracks so it stays on their radar.
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02.03.08 - 4:19 am | #
And the thing about endorsements is that it's so hard to measure any effect they might have.
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02.03.08 - 4:19 am | #
The GOP has fostered hate and contempt for those less fortunate. It's as if one can't be Gordon Gecko, he or she is a loser. The bankruptcy of that way of thinking must be made clear.
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02.03.08 - 4:21 am | #
I still remember 2004 very well. All the endorsements for Kerry, all the yard signs for Kerry, all the momentum for Kerry, all the youth for Kerry. Then bam. But then again I also remember the landslide of 2006.
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02.03.08 - 4:21 am | #
Plantsman,
Bless her for that, my girlfiend died of breast cancer at the age of 36 and had 3 young children and she fought all the way to the end, always with a smile on her face. She hated those wigs, they made her head itch and she would always end up flinging it up against the wall and we would break up in laughter.
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02.03.08 - 4:22 am | #
All the long lines at polls in Ohio, all the Swift Boat ads, all the useless American jingoism......
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02.03.08 - 4:23 am | #
The GOP has fostered hate and contempt for those less fortunate. It's as if one can't be Gordon Gecko, he or she is a loser. The bankruptcy of that way of thinking must be made clear.
Absolutely. And Edwards has tried to reframe this issue.
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02.03.08 - 4:23 am | #
The bankruptcy of that way of thinking must be made clear.
Does it scare you a little that your statement is true?
WHY don't we (suppposed) adults already know this?
Aren't we supposed to already know this?
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02.03.08 - 4:23 am | #
St. John McCain, The True Conservative is jingoism on a stick, to my way of thinking.
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02.03.08 - 4:25 am | #
I was taught that kindness was a good thing - but from an early age, it was implied I took it too far.
The GOP has made kindness and liberalism seem like BAD things -- but they're not!
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02.03.08 - 4:26 am | #
I still cringe when I think about Kerry/Edwards' slogan: "For a Stronger America."
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02.03.08 - 4:27 am | #
Speaking of Kerry, I was depressed for months after the loss. I couldn't believe America was so dumb.
I was so damn sure we were going to win. No Bush/Cheney signs in the neighborhood. Everyone seemed to be pro-Kerry. I came to the conclusion that people were embarrassed that they were going to vote for the dickheads so they lied. The feel in my small PA county seemed pro democrat. Yet, when the results for my county came back Bush/Cheney eeked him out by 5%--I was shocked.
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02.03.08 - 4:28 am | #
Aren't we supposed to already know this?
One reason why Jonah's book is so deplorable is that the current fascists are not liberal, they are either fiscal or security-related. And the Bush administration has conflated the two. I know people who have had to buy a plane ticket to go to a bank to open an account. Going into a bank now is like going through a checkpoint in East Berlin in the 1960s.
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02.03.08 - 4:29 am | #
Once, they talked about starving kids somewhere in Sunday School, and gave us little cardboard banks to put change in to help them. I stuffed all my pennies in mine and gave them all away, for which my parents said I was foolish. You should have seen how I cried at Ol' Yeller.
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02.03.08 - 4:30 am | #
You should have seen how I cried at Ol' Yeller.
That would be a great name for a movie about Bush and Cheney.
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02.03.08 - 4:32 am | #
I will be interested to see how my SIL's neighborhood does this year. They live in a heavily integrated, carpet-bagger middle-class suburban subdivision in GA, which in 2004 which was entirely for Bush, as judged by yard signs. Bush had so entirely wrapped up the identity politics of family values that Kerry was barely an option. We don't inject our politics too strongly at family gatherings, but I keep my ears open. So that would be one sign.
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I was 13 when Kennedy was killed. I remember Wallace and Selma and RFK and MLK, Woodstock and Neil Armstrong.
Those events shaped me as a person.
I freely admit that I don't remember the 70s at all, but that was from trauma, not drugs.
When I woke up in the 80s, it was Greed A GoGo and I confess I have been feeling a little lost ever since then.
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02.03.08 - 4:33 am | #
Someone over at FDL was talking about Yellow Puddle Democrats. I liked that one.
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02.03.08 - 4:34 am | #
That would be a great name for a movie about Bush and Cheney.
I'm angered that the notion of "The Common Good" has been so devalued by libertarians and conservatives. It shames us as human beings.
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02.03.08 - 4:34 am | #
Here's a question that might be worth looking into.
in 2000 BB (Before Bush) all federal employees, officials and members of the armed forces had to swear to an oath to uphold and defend the constitution.
What oath do members of Homeland Security swear to?
(with exception of the Coast Guard, military traditions, make me think they still swear to that)
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02.03.08 - 4:35 am | #
I was told growing up to eat all my food on my plate because kids in Africa are starving to death and now I tell my kids to finish their food because some kids in America are starving.
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02.03.08 - 4:36 am | #
Nothing common about them, eh plantsman?
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now I tell my kids to finish their food because some kids in America are starving.
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02.03.08 - 4:37 am | #
I'm angered that the notion of "The Common Good" has been so devalued by libertarians and conservatives. It shames us as human beings.
For some ungodly reason, people who have never worked a day in their lives, e.g., William Kristol and Tucker Carlson, prefer to suck on one of Ayn Rand's tits than read some John Locke and the Federalist Papers.
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I was the fattest kid in 6th grade, so I got the "honor" of being Sandy Claws in the School Xmas assembly. I had just been called to the principal's office and told of my *good fortune* when the news of Kennedy's assassination cane over the radio. I'll never forget it.
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02.03.08 - 4:38 am | #
Americans are very good at offing successful progressives. It is somewhat astounding that both Roosevelts were not killed.
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That day was the first day I ever saw a boy cry.
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02.03.08 - 4:41 am | #
Well, FDR was a cripple; and Eleanor's voice was weird, so maybe they were kept alive to ridicule.
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I remember when Reagan was shot. Should I be ashamed that I was hoping at the time that he would die so that the curse on presidents elected in years divisible by 20 would continue? Or would that be shallow?
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There were tons of Golden Age Cartoons with Eleanor's fruity/flutey voice, but I had no idea who they were making fun of.
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02.03.08 - 4:44 am | #
If you've got one of the media players that can display album art on it's screen, it's sometimes a bother to find and convert the art and get the player to display it.
This program makes it easy.
It definitely works with windows XP and Debian Linux on the operating system sides of things, per my personal tests.
And for media players, I know it works with IPOD touch (what it was originally made for) and CowonD2 players.
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I was only 2 when Kennedy was assassinated but my family talked about it for years. My mom loved Kennedy. After Clinton my mom became a republican (I guess financially she was doing better) I think because of the Clinton years, but she voted for Bush twice--she still likes him (veins popping out of my head) She still believes he is keeping us safe.
(grinding teeth now)
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02.03.08 - 4:45 am | #
If taxpayers got a bill for the Iraq War every year, it would have ended long ago.
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02.03.08 - 4:46 am | #
If there was a war tax on every gallon of gas it would have stopped long ago.
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02.03.08 - 4:47 am | #
If taxpayers got a bill for the Iraq War every year, it would have ended long ago.
We have not paid a penny for that war yet thanks to a congress that has neglected its responsibilities.
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Oh, and while we're at it; "Tax Cuts?"
The country NEEDS STUFF! R U Crazy?
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02.03.08 - 4:49 am | #
I remember when Reagan was shot.
I remember when he was running for that office and a couple of things from that time.
1/ talking with some friends about hiring an old broke down alcoholic bum (clean him up with a haircut, bath, shave, and nice clothes) and having hime shake Raygun's hand with the bum's hand soaked in super-glue, so he could have a bum as his 'right hand man'.
2/ being given tickets to one of Raygun's campaign events, by the parents of a friend, that for some reason thought I was a upstanding young man. (I was going to school and at the same time earning a good living) I guess he thought I was a possible Republican.
Fat chance!
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but she voted for Bush twice
This is why I wonder if we are really ready for landmark change.
People like your mom are everywhere.
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If taxpayers go a bill for the Iraq war every year, it would have ended long ago.
Thats what my Dad says and he is a republican like my mom. He is a fiscal conservative and Hates Bush.
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02.03.08 - 4:50 am | #
We are Ready. (pass it on)
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When in graduate school, I knew this absolutely beautiful woman who was so excited because she had a friend who had gotten her an invitation to one of Reagan's 1984 election inaugural balls. I.don't.get.it.
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02.03.08 - 4:54 am | #
If taxpayers go a bill for the Iraq war every year, it would have ended long ago.
I'm kind of a pay as you go conservative, (fiscally conservative, but socially liberal, I don't like debt, with the government or in my personal life.) and have since the beginning of our goldfish in chief's not liked anything that he's done.
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02.03.08 - 4:55 am | #
The woman later had a penile implant and became Mann Coulter. Even Later, The Crypt Keeper!
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02.03.08 - 4:56 am | #
bed time---Big game tomorrow-going for Giants, husband is NE Pats fan --born in Rhode Island. Should be fun!
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02.03.08 - 4:56 am | #
Doug, was it you who linked to the article on hydrogen electrolysis on a titanium oxide catalyst?
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02.03.08 - 4:57 am | #
People were actually talking here about what to do with all the electricity we could generate from wind.
Well, how about a GHG-free electric passenger rail network?
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02.03.08 - 5:00 am | #
was it you who linked to the article on hydrogen electrolysis
Yeah, there are a lot of blue sky research projects like that.
That one in particular looks good, and the article was at MIT's Technology Review, which means at least a couple people with brains looked at the article before it was put there.
A couple more, interesting solar projects I know of, that I can find the articles if anyone here is interested.
1/ a project at Idaho National labs for an IR solar cell that can cheaply be printed, that uses an antenna of all things to receive Infra Red radiation, that has about an 80% efficiency, and would also work with about any heat source including buildings that heat up during the day, and radiate heat at night.
2/ another nano solar project at Livermore labs, that uses nano wires to collect solar energy. I remember less about this one.
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People were actually talking here about what to do with all the electricity we could generate from wind.
I'm kind of boring. The place I'm now working at use honeycomb composites to make their stuff, so I'm learning a few things while working in the QA lab that checks out their production.
I've been thinking of making a honeycomb composite electric auto. I think I could get the weight to less than 1500 lbs total including enough structure in the front sides and back, to protect the occupants even if they were Tee-boned by a humvee, which metal autos do not currently do. That weight target includes all drive and interior components of the vehicle (batteries and electric motors)
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I was fascinated by that research, but being a non-scientist my mind is slow moving from stepping-stone to stepping-stone. So, I'm wondering about all the water used to supply hydrogen for a long time before I realize that "burning" the hydrogen yields water vapor, so maybe no net loss of water, or am I nuts here?
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02.03.08 - 5:11 am | #
You're not Boring! Strange and idiosyncratic, maybe.
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02.03.08 - 5:12 am | #
I recall you're into smaller, more efficient autos -- Suzukis, if I'm not mistaken.
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no net loss of water, or am I nuts here?
In transport use there is a loss of water in the sense, that it's converted at one place to hydrogen, and converted back to water on the road. But no loss overall, regardless of how the hydrogen is consumed, in a fuel cell or directly burnt in some internal combustion engine.
If consumed in a stationary system like a electric generation system the water could be endlessly recycled.
Not perpetual motion, the sun will eventually burn out, in a few billion years.
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Heh. I won't live to see the sun burn out; so for me, it never will.
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02.03.08 - 5:17 am | #
Gawd. I have a cheap table lamp to replace and I thought I'd find one I can use CFL bulbs in for any number of reasons. Then I almost get seduced by cheap lamps at Target, forgetting completely how my last cheap lamp fritzed out in a year.
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02.03.08 - 5:21 am | #
Suzukis, if I'm not mistaken.
My son and wife have one each and I'm still driving an ancient Jeep Cherokee, with about 221 thousand miles on the odometer. It's till running and passing emissions, though I'm saving money for whatever I'm going to replace it with.
Remember I'm the no debt guy, I've paid cash for the last several autos I've bought including the Suzukis, the Jeep, and a couple of Mitsubishi trucks, but then I tend to always get at least a couple hundred thousand miles out of all the vehicles I've bought except for a Ford Taurus. A piece of shit BTW, it was as expensive as a Mazarati to keep up the maintenance on.
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02.03.08 - 5:21 am | #
And you have a purple prickly pear!
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02.03.08 - 5:22 am | #
purple prickly pear!
The rest of my cactus throw out endless babies, but those tow purple ones never do.
A shame actually, that's the one I'd grow more of. I guess, I could go to the Mesquite plant nursery, they have those and lots more kinds.
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So, I'm looking at these borderline kitschy "Arts & Crafts" table lamps at LL Bean. Part of me knows they'll age funnily, and part of me could not care less.
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02.03.08 - 5:26 am | #
Or, there might be a way to propagate the one you have. Some cactus pads will sprout roots even if the plant won't make viable seed.
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02.03.08 - 5:28 am | #
If the nursery has them, there is a way.
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A lot of nursery propagation is vegetative.
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02.03.08 - 5:29 am | #
Of course if that composite auto, was teeboned by a humvee that guy's insurance company would be crying when they got the repair bill. I'd not fix it myself. (I'd probably build the next one instead, after having learned a few things building the first one)
I don't think too many body shops grok ATR pins, composite laminating, and CNC cut honeycomb composites, so they'd have to send the auto to an aircraft company to get it fixed. About a half million dollar job, is my guess.
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Drive VERY defensively, in other words.
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02.03.08 - 5:31 am | #
I've been drooling over some of the offerings at that nursery, though as normal, you have to check out what you are getting. The climate I live in is more hostile to 'soft' plants than in Tucson, It's a bit higher in elevation, with high winds a few times a week, so most plants wither and die quickly if not well protected. Roses, do all right, and I've even got some citrus, though maybe they are more bother than I'm willing to deal with. I've got a row of flowering sage plants I put in front of the house I'm happy to say, the winter frosts (again a lot more here than in Tucson) have not managed to kill, so I'm hoping they'll thrive this summer more than last. They did OK last summer, no wilting from sun or wind once I put them into the ground. The biggest ones got to almost 2 feet tall.
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I've got well over a million miles under my belt, and have only had accidents when totally stopped. If the car I'm driving is moving, I can get out of an idiot's way
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02.03.08 - 5:37 am | #
Flowering sages (Salvias) are one of my favorite groups of plants, and there are some gorgeous ones from the Sonoran Desert, as I'm sure you're aware. Citrus, if it takes hold, can be well worth it.
I curse silently at the price of lemons now that I can't grow one.
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02.03.08 - 5:41 am | #
This has been an ongoing argument/discussion in the Geologist's world for decades. That article is at one of the AAAS sites, so it's a bit more believable.
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02.03.08 - 5:42 am | #
Mmm, that's heavy going for this time of day.....
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02.03.08 - 5:43 am | #
I'm still trying to find a source of large enough burlap sheeting to make tenting the citrus easier when the frosts hit. All that I've found are little bitty squares. I need something as wide as a big carpet roll, and equally long.
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02.03.08 - 5:44 am | #
heavy going for this time
I'm wide awake,
this is my normal work time.
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02.03.08 - 5:45 am | #
fascinating theory, not much evidentiary support.
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02.03.08 - 5:46 am | #
Check online for "floating row covers." I'm not sure if Peaceful Valley Farm Supply is still in business or has a web presence - but somebody has just what you need.
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02.03.08 - 5:46 am | #
Ok, that would be rough for me at any time of day.
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02.03.08 - 5:47 am | #
morning, all.
Feed stores have burlap sacks, they must have a source for them that works from large rolls of burlap.
It's amazingly warm and moist here today.
My brussels sprouts are sprouted!
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02.03.08 - 5:48 am | #
Wholesale Nursery Supply Houses have stuff like that, too.
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
My cat, Happy Jack, just typed that ...
Hi Ruth !!!
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02.03.08 - 5:50 am | #
Fresh Brussels Sprouts! Steamed up some fresh Mexican Asparagus last night.
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02.03.08 - 5:51 am | #
There's a not very good plant nursery right around the corner -- but they will have fuchsia starts in not too long. (I'm pining for another Begonia boliviensis "Bonfire" for summer, but it may not fit in the budget.)
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Happy Jack and Doug, hi! now I know why you have a bee on your posts. Honeycomb is good, and we have a salad place on the news out of Dallas that uses corn-based cups, utensils and stuff, that is biodegradable.
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02.03.08 - 5:54 am | #
I buy organic "Fresh Herb Salad" in corn-based clamshell containers, too.
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Gooood morning! I worried I might be intruding there, having nothing automotive or prickly pear-related.
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02.03.08 - 5:55 am | #
BTW- Colavita brand Balsamic Vinegar is DREADFUL!
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02.03.08 - 5:56 am | #
Op-ed at WaPo using my concept! of paying wages that give workers buying ability. /trickle up ideas a specialty...
"We need less titillating talk about "stimulus" and more commitment to some fundamental repairs -- higher wages, a real safety net and a return to progressive taxation among them. The challenge isn't just to prop up stock prices but to rebuild an economy in which everyone shares the good times -- and no one is consigned to a permanent recession."
Anyway if the Beagle ever comes up again, it's a good source to be able to read some of the journals, that otherwise you'd not be able to without paying a fee. You have to join but it didn't use to be that difficult. Just tell them you are some sort of bio-science professional. Plantsman, tell them you are a research botanist. That's close enough to what you are anyway.
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02.03.08 - 5:58 am | #
plantsman, I've never had bad balsamic vinegar, how'd that happen?
snarkworth, all snark is worthy. and I don't have honeycomb auto yet, but I do have prickly pear.
Ruth |
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02.03.08 - 5:58 am | #
Napa Valley Naturals Grand Reserve Balsamic Vinegar is kinda pricey, but you only need a few drops, so it ends up being reasonable.
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02.03.08 - 5:59 am | #
I'm ordering seeds right about now. Branching out a bit in the sweet pepper department, because they did so well last year. Plus, they keep incredibly well.
Snarkworth |
02.03.08 - 6:00 am | #
Dunno - their Olive Oil is okay, but this was a "value" and I didn't have much money, and......
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02.03.08 - 6:01 am | #
/ehrenreich, yes, and she even uses my favorite example Henry Ford. she's been reading my blog! I want rights... me and sittenp0retty, heh.
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02.03.08 - 6:01 am | #
That bug is not a bee or wasp, and I've not ID'd what it is. There was a swarm of them in my yard, last spring one morning, and the sight of those insects was kind of dazzling. They were iridescent blue, glinting in the sunlight from a dark almost UV violet, to the brilliant blue you see in my gravatar. If anyone can ID this insect I'd like that.
Doug |
02.03.08 - 6:02 am | #
I'm addicted to colorful sweet peppers, and Ellie Krieger on the Food Network says they are three times richer in Vitamin C than Oranges.
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02.03.08 - 6:03 am | #
Morning, all. Go Giants!
David Derbes, textifyin' |
02.03.08 - 6:04 am | #
Doug, you have a County Extension Service down there? They'd know.
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02.03.08 - 6:04 am | #
True, plantsman. They're fine green, but once they turn yellow or red they go all high octane, nutritionally.
Snarkworth |
02.03.08 - 6:05 am | #
The orange ones have a really good different flavor, too!
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02.03.08 - 6:06 am | #
Anyway the honeycomb I work with is made of aluminum, nomex, graphite, fiberglass, and some other plastics, depending on what kind of honeycomb it is and what it's being used for.
Strong stuff, but difficult to work with. A stress skin structure, with a stiff skin, and in the middle almost nothing, and lightweight honeycomb that you can pull apart with your fingers, even with the aluminum kind, which is just honeycomb formed thin foil in the middle. A two inch flat panel of aluminum twenty feet X 5 feet you can stand on with only a deflection of maybe a couple of inches, when supported on the far ends, and... still be able to pick this up yourself. When kerfed and bonded into a three-D structure it's even stronger.
Doug |
02.03.08 - 6:08 am | #
Morning peeps.
We have a super bowl party to attend. I'd just as soon not.
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02.03.08 - 6:09 am | #
I've said this before, but if open-pollinated, organic, genetically-modified-free seeds are your thang, check out:
ql - how big is the TV?
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02.03.08 - 6:12 am | #
That looks like what we called 'sweat bees', Doug, has a nasty sting. Got a thumbsnap?
I love yellow, orange, red peppers, not so much the green.
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02.03.08 - 6:12 am | #
So, I'm watching The Food Network and the healthy cook takes out her Garlic Press -- and it's just like mine! I was so excited!
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02.03.08 - 6:14 am | #
I get sticker shock at the store, pepper-wise. Pound for pound, the colorful ones cost more than filet mignon. And this time of year, seems they're all grown in some hydroponic gulag somewhere in the Netherlands.
Snarkworth |
02.03.08 - 6:15 am | #
Our Kroger subsidiary consistently has the best prices on greenhouse-grown Mexican and British Columbian ones, so we're lucky.
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02.03.08 - 6:17 am | #
The game will be projected on a wall.
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02.03.08 - 6:17 am | #
Big, Giant Super Bowl!
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02.03.08 - 6:18 am | #
Snarkworth, at my local Kroger, the veggie section makes up little pkgs of veggies that didn't sell, and because of their high price the prettier colored peppers usually are in there. Red ones have $1 sales occasionally too.
Ruth |
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02.03.08 - 6:19 am | #
And this week, CA broccoli and cauliflower, 68 cents a pound!
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02.03.08 - 6:19 am | #
ql, even if you're lukewarm about the party, you can enjoy the commercials!
Snarkworth |
02.03.08 - 6:19 am | #
In the unlikely event that RMJ is still around, the Nunc dimittis heard at the end of every episode of the old BBC series Smiley's People is really worth a listen, and if he hasn't heard it, I will try to get him a copy. He should email me at loki snail uchicago period edu.
David Derbes, textifyin' |
02.03.08 - 6:20 am | #
If you like un-messed-with peanut butter, Kroger's store brand is tops!
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02.03.08 - 6:20 am | #
Aack! It was Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy
(Early onset Alzheimer's...)
David Derbes, textifyin' |
02.03.08 - 6:21 am | #
Super bowl usually puts me to sleep.
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02.03.08 - 6:21 am | #
I should probably investigate. I generally give up on peppers and tomatoes during the winter.
Snarkworth |
02.03.08 - 6:22 am | #
Why would someone wander into a Lane Bryant and kill 5 women?
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02.03.08 - 6:22 am | #
I've got a picture of that insect somewhere on this machine. I think I have this organized by date, so I might be able to find it again.
It's not a bee. It almost looks like a moth, with the shape of the antenna (larger on the ends), but that doesn't seem correct either.
Let me see if I can find a picture of it and thumbsnap it at you guys.
Doug |
02.03.08 - 6:23 am | #
Here, we see little square 4-packs of on-vine hydroponic tomatoes in winter. I've gotten rather good at never refrigerating them and ripening them in brown paper bags to slice for sandwiches.
plantsman |
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02.03.08 - 6:25 am | #
Blue Moths are very common in the West, though.
plantsman |
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02.03.08 - 6:26 am | #
Lemon extract is something like $160/unit (pound or quart, not sure which).
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02.03.08 - 6:29 am | #
I have not yet found the blue insect yet, but here's a nice picture I took last winter on one of the rare snow days east of Tucson.
That's gorgeous, Doug; it's amazing how much like an undersea scene it looks!
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02.03.08 - 6:32 am | #
People in Florence, Italy grow lemons in Gigantic Pots and roll them into open barns to overwinter.
I'd do it in a minute if I had a greenhouse!
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02.03.08 - 6:34 am | #
gorgeous, Doug, snow on cacti is pretty amazing.
Ruth |
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02.03.08 - 6:34 am | #
Maybe "0 comments" means that there are comments up, but thay don't have any carbs.
About the only reason I can think of.
Doug |
02.03.08 - 6:54 am | #
We've lost 4 visitors.
gop:scrod
Arabella Trefoil |
02.03.08 - 6:55 am | #
I have hope too, Arabella, but it's tempered with painful experience. I well remember a creaky old man named Ronald St. Reagan.
Snarkworth |
02.03.08 - 6:56 am | #
Snarkworth
My point is that the country is changing. Obama's success shows that. The era of the old white men is coming to an end.
gop:scrod
Arabella Trefoil |
02.03.08 - 6:58 am | #
I've to to run to Sabu's market to get some eggs, and then clean up the kitchen. It's getting kind of manky in that room.
Doug |
02.03.08 - 6:58 am | #
We lost two more visitors. I choose to stay and fight.
Help! New Thread!!!
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02.03.08 - 7:03 am | #
You're right, of course. Only trouble is, all those old white guys can be very mean when cornered. When they sense they're going down, whoa Nellie!
Snarkworth |
02.03.08 - 7:03 am | #
When they sense they're going down they say really nasty, ugly things and the phony mask drops away.
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02.03.08 - 7:06 am | #
So? They'll die before I will.
The presidential race will be closer than I expect, but we can win. We have to.
gop:scrod
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