“This is another example of how Barack Obama is defying conventional wisdom about how politics is done and giving new meaning to meeting people at the grassroots level,” Joshua DuBois, the campaign’s religious affairs director, said in a release.
I'm pretty sure that this is NOT what Our Al had in mind.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
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10.20.07 - 11:14 am | #
Good! Obama's obviously not ready for prime time - this ought to convince people - maybe by 2016
Nuts! |
10.20.07 - 11:14 am | #
Wisdom should be in quotation marks.
Troutski |
10.20.07 - 11:15 am | #
Auntie GWPDA, you're always first, even when you're not
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
10.20.07 - 11:16 am | #
Such a nice Christian boy.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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10.20.07 - 11:16 am | #
Well, this is depressing.
steve simels |
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10.20.07 - 11:16 am | #
An international NGO ranked Iraq 157th on a list of press freedom worldwide for this year, retreating three positions to come only one point ahead of Palestine, the last on the list among Arab countries. "In Iraq, what journalists fear most are the armed groups that target them without the authorities ever finding a way to put an end to the litany of violence. More than 200 journalists and media assistants have been killed since the start of the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003," according to a report by Reporters without Borders.
smells like freedom? can we convince broder brooksie and krauthammer to go do some field work in their lovely war?
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10.20.07 - 11:16 am | #
Jeez, Patty Murray is making me really sad. Once a great woman, now out of touch and part of the problem.
What happened Patty? Hopefully there were no goats involved.
Troutski |
10.20.07 - 11:16 am | #
What happened Patty? Hopefully there were no goats involved.
Troutski
Yeh.
Her and Barbara Mikulski.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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10.20.07 - 11:17 am | #
afternoon moonbats
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier |
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10.20.07 - 11:18 am | #
fuck the rapture based community
jr |
10.20.07 - 11:18 am | #
I guess hating minorities is bad, but hating teh ghey is OK.
Sinfonian, with new job |
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10.20.07 - 11:19 am | #
Hey, I'm obsessed with genitals touching each other.
Is that so wrong?
Counts on the species, dood!
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in |
10.20.07 - 11:19 am | #
Well, there goes my consideration of Obama.
The only ones left for me at this point are Edwards, Dodd, and DK.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.20.07 - 11:20 am | #
You know what? Fuck you. Seriously. No one will ever do anything good enough for some of the people here.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 11:16 am | #
Al Gore is very impressive, smart, and admirable. But when I watched him concede in 2000, I felt utterly and bitterly betrayed - and I still feel that way.
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10.20.07 - 11:20 am | #
Hey, I'm obsessed with genitals touching each other.
Is that so wrong?
steve simels
I don't think I even remember what that's like.
Sinfonian, with new job |
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10.20.07 - 11:20 am | #
makes for depressing reading - Ten years of Labour rule have failed to create a classless society, according to a Guardian/ICM poll published today. It shows that Britain remains a nation dominated by class division, with a huge majority certain that their social standing determines the way they are judged.
Of those questioned, 89% said they think people are still judged by their class - with almost half saying that it still counts for "a lot". Only 8% think that class does not matter at all in shaping the way people are seen.
The poorest people in society are most aware of its impact, with 55% of them saying class, not ability, greatly affects the way they are seen.
Gordon Brown claimed at this year's Labour conference that "a class-free society is not a slogan but in Britain can become a reality". But even the supposedly meritocratic Thatcher generation of adults born in the 1980s appear to doubt that: 90% of 18-24 year-olds say people are judged by their class.
The poll also shows that after 10 years of Labour government, social change in Britain is almost static. Despite the collapse of industrial employment, the working class is an unchanging majority. In 1998, when ICM last asked, 55% of people considered themselves working class. Now the figure stands at 53%.
You know that this country is seriously fucked up when Rush Limbaugh can fetch $2.1 million dollars for a letter signed by 41 Senate Democrats officially condemning his recent, controversial "phony soldiers" comments.
He makes a mockery out of what was once a great country.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.20.07 - 11:22 am | #
But Sinf, you have children to prove it happened!
plantsman, areligious |
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10.20.07 - 11:22 am | #
But when I watched him concede in 2000, I felt utterly and bitterly betrayed - and I still feel that way.
How about a little cheese with that whine?
billy b - get off of my cloud |
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10.20.07 - 11:23 am | #
Hey, I'm obsessed with genitals touching each other.
Is that why you're always asking Toby to blow you?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
10.20.07 - 11:23 am | #
Harry Potter author JK Rowling has revealed that one of her characters, Hogwarts school headmaster Albus Dumbledore, is gay.
She made her revelation to a packed house in New York's Carnegie Hall on Friday, as part of her US book tour.
She took audience questions and was asked if Dumbledore found "true love".
"Dumbledore is gay," she said, adding he was smitten with rival Gellert Grindelwald, who he beat in a battle between good and bad wizards long ago.
The audience gasped, then applauded. "I would have told you earlier if I knew it would make you so happy," she said.
Al Gore is very impressive, smart, and admirable. But when I watched him concede in 2000, I felt utterly and bitterly betrayed - and I still feel that way.
He didn't betray you - he had no further recourse!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.20.07 - 11:24 am | #
But Sinf, you have children to prove it happened!
plantsman, areligious
They were the products of inaccurate conception.
Sinfonian, with new job |
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10.20.07 - 11:24 am | #
fuck the rapture based community
jr
Say, what're these Rapturites all up in the air about, anyway?
Oh. Really? Missed...um, missed The Bus then, did I? OK. Well, then...
Par-TAY!! 'cause now we get what, a thousand years without those asshats? I'm down aiddat.
Elmer, PHD |
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10.20.07 - 11:25 am | #
He makes a mockery out of what was once a great country.
Hell, he gives pilonidal cysts a bad name.
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10.20.07 - 11:25 am | #
But Sinf, you have children to prove it happened!
plantsman, areligious
I didn't say I never had. I said I don't remember how. There's a difference.
Sinfonian, with new job |
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10.20.07 - 11:25 am | #
You know that this country is seriously fucked up when Rush Limbaugh can fetch $2.1 million dollars for a letter signed by 41 Senate Democrats officially condemning his recent, controversial "phony soldiers" comments.
You know what? I'm glad the asshole who bought the letter is parted from that $2.1 million. That money definitely needs to be in the hands of better people. My understanding was that the money would go to marine war vets or something of the sort. So maybe they'll get some good out of it, and all the asshole who got the letter will get is a memento they can never show to anyone without revealing that they are so fucking stupid they paid $2.1 million for it.
Jennifer |
10.20.07 - 11:25 am | #
Is it my imagination or did CNN turn up the makeup on the news readers? Keeping up with the FOXes?
Troutski |
10.20.07 - 11:25 am | #
Up to 60,000 England fans are packing the streets, cafes and bars of Paris ahead of the Rugby World Cup final against South Africa.
Many of those without tickets will gather around a giant screen beside the Eiffel Tower in the hope of seeing their team retain the Webb Ellis Cup.
Back in the UK, 5,000 fans will descend on London's O2 Arena for the biggest free screening outside Paris.
Gordon Brown and Princes William and Harry will all attend the final.
Despite being a Scot, the prime minister has sent his best wishes to Brian Ashton's players.
Messages of support have also come from England's cricket and football teams and even the Queen.
The Austin Dog Burner(TM) is waxing even stupider than usual over at his piece of shit blog today.
Isn’t there some benefit to Rudy Giuliani with French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s divorce today? I know that sounds odd, but doesn’t it somehow ameliorate Giuliani’s own political vulnerabilities in that regard? If the leader of France —a country thats moral attitudes are supposed by many to be superior to ours— can politically withstand a divorce while in office, it has to be of some help to America’s Mayor. It’s got to be some sort of recalibration.
Jeebus, what an idiot.
steve simels |
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10.20.07 - 11:26 am | #
Oh Christ, anti-sexers condemning sexually-active girls in Maine to forced pregnancy!
plantsman, areligious |
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10.20.07 - 11:26 am | #
Will Barack be rooting for the Rockies?
Sinfonian, with new job |
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10.20.07 - 11:27 am | #
You know that this country is seriously fucked up when Rush Limbaugh can fetch $2.1 million dollars for a letter signed by 41 Senate Democrats officially condemning his recent, controversial "phony soldiers" comments.
saw that early this morning - depressing - and some reich winger matched the bid and kicked in a matching 2.1 million -
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10.20.07 - 11:27 am | #
If you need to embrace the Gospel for a campaign event, you could at least consider:
"Oh, and McClurkin also believes that gays can, and need to, be "cured."
I hear McClurkin's strain of Christianity has a cure, too.
We can only observe and experiment against the day.
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10.20.07 - 11:27 am | #
They were the products of inaccurate conception.
Sinfonian, with new job
If The Big G didn't do it Hisself, but sent one of His li'l helpers, would that make it Homunculate Conception?
Elmer, PHD |
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10.20.07 - 11:27 am | #
The Austin Dog Burner(TM) is quite stupid
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier |
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10.20.07 - 11:28 am | #
Well, hanging out with gay haters is one way for Obama to defy conventional wisdom.
Jesus. What a fucking moron.
Richard |
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10.20.07 - 11:28 am | #
I've wondered for years why they called it "immaculate conception" and the only thing I was ever able to come up with was:
no peter tracks on the sheets.
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10.20.07 - 11:29 am | #
Ya, the local news is flogging the Limbaugh story and making sure we know over and over again that Limbaugh was only criticizing one soldier who "got kicked out after only 6 weeks for criticizing the Iraq War".
Troutski |
10.20.07 - 11:29 am | #
Sheets
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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10.20.07 - 11:29 am | #
Posted this downstairs, but:
Let me give a big Eschaton Happy Birthday Shout Out to the divine Jenny from the Blog!!!!!
Damn, I miss her...
steve simels |
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10.20.07 - 11:31 am | #
But when I watched [Al Gore]
him concede in 2000, I felt utterly and bitterly betrayed
_
Felt that way when Kerry pulled the plug on the Ohio investigation, too.
If it is any comfort, I'm sure they were feeling betrayed right along with us.
el |
10.20.07 - 11:32 am | #
More Adventures in Bad Campaign Vetting... Pay attention, there, Barak
ol' buddy.
Hey, nothing wrong with Gospel music at all, even as campaign schtick. In fact, the New Voices in Freedom number in Rattle & Hum is all that made that DVD watchable. For moi, anyway, as U2 bores me to tears. YMMV, as always.
Elmer, PHD |
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10.20.07 - 11:35 am | #
BO's desperate campaign has now gone from incompetent and offensive to beyond the pale. his tendency to criticize partisan dems, repeat wingnut memes about the clintons and now to court conservative african americans by consorting with homophobes should prove once and for all to his kool-aid drinkers, they've been had. in love with sound of his own voice and believes his own publicity. gives empty suit a bad name.
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10.20.07 - 11:37 am | #
I disagree. Black floridians had their votes openly stolen. That should not have been a negotiable item.
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10.20.07 - 11:42 am | #
Another idiot member of my party AGAIN thinks he can beat Hillary by acting like a homophobic moron and appealing to a base that is not even his own. I was always a little weary of Obama, and now my suspicions are confirmed. Fuck him. I hope he chokes on this. Let him run as VP with Mittens Romney. That's the kind of hell he deserves. Reaching out to "values voters" in an unconventional manner. Hey, Obama, kiss my fat gay ass in an unconventional manner. And he has some fucknut "ex-gay" appearing with him besides. I can see the contributions drying up already. Boy, this is one helluva gift to Hillary. When are the Dems going to understand that the only way these batshit crazy right-wing Christo-fascist mother-fuckers are ever going to support the Democratic Party is if every Dem candidate gives up every principle we have supported for the last 75 years? Fuck you, Barack. Yeah, FUCK YOU!
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10.20.07 - 11:48 am | #
If it is any comfort, I'm sure they were feeling betrayed right along with us.
el | 10.20.07 - 11:32 am
Which must explain why they are fighting so hard for election reform!
Cougarhutch |
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10.20.07 - 12:27 pm | #
LOL! When are you losers going to learn?
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Ghost of Ralph |
10.20.07 - 12:44 pm | #
Hey Richard, your boy Al Gore's record on homosexuality ain't exactly spotless:
Or take Al Gore, perhaps the ultimate finger-in-the-wind politico. At the outset of his Congressional career in 1976, Gore called homosexuality "abnormal." In 1980 he voted for an amendment prohibiting the Legal Services Corp. from assisting homosexuals whose rights were denied because of their sexual orientation. As a senator, Gore repeatedly backed anti-gay measures devised by Jesse Helms that sought to deny legal protections for gay people, and supported an amendment to use HIV tests to discriminate against immigrants and people seeking health insurance. Even worse, Gore voted with Helms to restore the anti-gay sodomy law in the District of Columbia after the local city council tried to repeal it.
I was disappointed by this too. But then I asked myself, does appearing onstage with this guy even a little bit mean that Barack supports his views? And also, is it maybe just possible that he wasn't aware of the guy's views because he wasn't vetted properly? And pulling out now would be politically problematic.
But people like Eschaton commenters don't worry about politics do they? They're not running for anything. They can just sit back and feel the righteousness flow from their fingertips, just like the 101st Fighting Keyboarders.
Talk about not a dime's worth of difference.
Chicagoan |
10.21.07 - 1:28 am | #
Chicagoan nails it.
Much of the commentary on this in blogs - particularly at Aravois - has been utterly clueless and hysterical.
brucds |
10.21.07 - 7:54 am | #