I, too, have a strategy. Let's load up our troops and bring them home.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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01.05.08 - 3:57 pm | #
It's not that McCain loves war, he just doesn't know what he'd do without it.
Cranky Bob |
01.05.08 - 3:58 pm | #
A Hundred Years' War?
Manchester, NH
John McCain—who, solely because of the grievous blow to Romney, seems to have been almost as big a winner last night as Huckabee or Obama—flew here yesterday for an early evening “town meeting.” He was accompanied by his own personal Chuck Norris, Joseph I. Lieberman.
John McCain—who, solely because of the grievous blow to Romney, seems to have been almost as big a winner last night as Huckabee or Obama—flew here yesterday for an early evening “town meeting.” He was accompanied by his own personal Chuck Norris, Joseph I. Lieberman.
I would love to see Chuck Norris wrestle Joememtum. Now, that would be some good television.
Cranky Bob |
01.05.08 - 3:59 pm | #
But what the context shows, I think, is that yanking that sound bite out of context isn’t really all that unfair. McCain wants to stay in Iraq until no more Americans are getting killed, no matter how long it takes and how many Americans get killed achieving that goal—that is, the goal of not getting any more Americans killed. And once that goal is achieved, we'll stay.
Is that really his position? Seems very unlikely.
Econ 102 |
01.05.08 - 3:59 pm | #
alligator lizards in the sky - dirk gently
Not sky, air, dammit, AIR!
Oh Jaysus, did I actually rememeber that?
[Hangs head in shame. Cries softly.]
bo |
01.05.08 - 3:59 pm | #
They used to say that we couldn't end slavery because the slaves were not able to govern themselves & therefore our martial law of these people had to continue. You can look that up. Lots of people hated slavery but were totally convinced that the slaves could not be trusted to govern themselves. That was one of the major obstacles to ending slavery.
when all the slaves were finally freed in the west indies in 1838, international attention looked there to see what kind of rioting would ensue. they rang the church bells at midnight and all the slaves went to church to peacefully assemble.
much the same thing would happen in iraq if we pulled out. the idea that the iraqis are unable to govern themselves has to be challenged much more vigorously. the main obstacle to them doing so today is our presence.
buddy |
01.05.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Bush-McCain-Lieberman
The Axis of Evil
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.05.08 - 4:00 pm | #
But, but ,but.........
Wasn’t Tweety claiming yesterday that McCain would never have sent troops to Iraq in the first place.
McCain can say anything he likes, because the villagers will protect him.
sally |
01.05.08 - 4:00 pm | #
that's funny.
of course, it's also sadly true. i just wish i were confident it was untrue for all the dem candidates.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Too complex for me.
I would like to see McCain debate T. E. Lawrence about Iraq.
leibniz, monadΩ |
01.05.08 - 4:00 pm | #
He was accompanied by his own personal Chuck Norris, Joseph I. Lieberman.
Don't mock. The Wattlespin is a deadly move.
bo |
01.05.08 - 4:01 pm | #
Don't worry, I'll fix everything: Iraq, the economy, social issues. I AM THE ANSWER TO YOUR PROBLEMS. Oh yeah, and Chuck Hagel as VP. WE ARE THE ANSWER.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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M. Bloomberg, Divorced Jew |
01.05.08 - 4:01 pm | #
Hillary is top dog when it comes to her policy expertise. Now if she could just shake that grating cackle of hers maybe people would be less turned off by her.
sayin' |
01.05.08 - 4:02 pm | #
"They used to say that we couldn't end slavery because the slaves were not able to govern themselves"
How are Liberia and Haiti doing these days?
Econ 102 |
01.05.08 - 4:02 pm | #
buddy | 01.05.08 - 4:00 pm | #
respectfully, i don't think the warmongers give a shit if the iraqi people are governed in peace or not. they are there to control some oil, and to spend our treasury dry to make contractors rich.
they've never really cared about the iraqi people.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 4:02 pm | #
figgers. my first blogwhore of the year and i get deadthreaded.
huckleberry discussing constitutional powers in a short (exclusive) clip on my homepage.
and: Not sky, air, dammit, AIR!
oops. that's what i get for not playing the whole verse in my head. but really, can you blame me?
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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01.05.08 - 4:02 pm | #
From below:
I don't doubt that McCain suffered as a POW.
But THAT doesn't qualify him to be president of the US (or even Senator).
And what REALLY pisses me off about McCain is that he wants the occupation of Iraq to continue so MORE people will be killed.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.05.08 - 4:03 pm | #
I understand you been running from the man that goes by the name of The Sandman. He rides the sky like an eagle in the eye of a hurricane that's abandoned.
much the same thing would happen in iraq if we pulled out. the idea that the iraqis are unable to govern themselves has to be challenged much more vigorously. the main obstacle to them doing so today is our presence.
There is little or no interest in them governing themselves. This is a sop to the public who get their news from Brian Williams. We are training mercenaries of the US imperialistic invasion.
leibniz, monadΩ |
01.05.08 - 4:03 pm | #
So... what have I missed? Good troll BBQ? . Jeffraham Prestonian
We're going with the shun. Impressive solidarity for the last half-hour.
bo |
01.05.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Oh... it killfiled me!
I'm honored. I truly am.
Cranky Bob |
01.05.08 - 4:03 pm | #
what a warmonger.
euphronius |
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01.05.08 - 4:03 pm | #
yeah, welcome to the club. ideally, he'll killfile everyone and then go away.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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01.05.08 - 4:04 pm | #
Wasn’t Tweety claiming yesterday that McCain would never have sent troops to Iraq in the first place.
McCain can say anything he likes, because the villagers will protect him.
sally | 01.05.08 - 4:00 pm | #
Yes, he and Mike Barnicle have blinders on when it comes to McCain.
Tweety and Mike are both against the war and talk about it all the time, but when it comes to sucking up to St. McCain, Rudy, etc. - they never mention it and it doesn't bother them at all. It's all part of the script, I guess.
portia |
01.05.08 - 4:04 pm | #
Now if she could just shake that grating cackle of hers maybe people would be less turned off by her.
sayin'
People are turned off by her because she's CWF (Campaigning While Female).
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.05.08 - 4:04 pm | #
I apologize to no one for my enjoyment of the dulcet harmonies of Beckley Bunnell & Peek.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.05.08 - 4:06 pm | #
Anyone have links to comments Hillary is reported to have made about terra, terra, terra?
jawbone |
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01.05.08 - 4:06 pm | #
there's no killfile for safari, right? i really don't want to use mozilla, but i'm jealous i'm not in your little club. /sob/
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 4:07 pm | #
As someone said below, Clinton's laugh has never bothered me. I never even thought about it until the msm made an issue of it. I'd much rather hear her laugh than w's "heh, heh, heh." That gives me the shivers.
mer |
01.05.08 - 4:07 pm | #
The need to belong overwhelms ethics every time.
Econ 102 |
01.05.08 - 4:08 pm | #
yeah, welcome to the club. ideally, he'll killfile everyone and then go away.
Unfortunately, his killfile is entirely in his pointy little head. You will notice that he pastes the “blocked comment” notice only when you refer to him by name.
cahuenga |
01.05.08 - 4:10 pm | #
there's no killfile for safari, right? i really don't want to use mozilla, but i'm jealous i'm not in your little club. /sob/
chicago dyke, daring to belitt
I think u'll find that the mouse wheel is ur friend....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
01.05.08 - 4:10 pm | #
People are turned off by her because she's CWF (Campaigning While Female).
Terry C - Edwards 2008
Please. Hillary is not a victim.
I honestly think her unpopularity is more a result of the public having seen her disgraced by her husband on multiple occasions. People don't respect a doormat.
glenn |
01.05.08 - 4:12 pm | #
popular support for the war -- what little there is of it -- depends on the idea that we have a responsibility to the iraqis to not let them kill their ignorant selves in sectarian violence.
it does not matter what the politicians really think of leaving iraq. what does matter is the rationale - which can be debunked - which gets those people elected and re-elected to continue the war.
buddy |
01.05.08 - 4:54 pm | #
In fifty or a hundert years, this war, it won't matter to Bush or McCain or me..there's sure to be another, then another...
vox clamantis in red state |
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01.05.08 - 5:00 pm | #
Am I the only one that is going to ask:
Why do we still have troops in Korea and Japan?
Spud1 |
01.05.08 - 5:19 pm | #
Listening to the entire McCain statement I have to say that the logic was terrible.
McCain: "As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. That's fine with me, I hope that would be fine with you, if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Qaeda is training and equipping and recruiting and motivating people every single day.
fuck mccain and that stupid ass diner segment CNN had with him and those asshole people in NH
jr |
01.05.08 - 6:14 pm | #
This just ran on BBC World News:
Iraqi soldier 'killed US troops'
An Iraqi soldier has opened fire on American troops, killing two and wounding three others, US and Iraqi officials have said. The incident happened during a joint patrol in the north on 26 December, but fuller details have only now emerged. An Iraqi general said the patrol had come under fire from gunmen in the city of Mosul, but his soldier had "abused" the situation and shot the Americans. It is thought to be the first such case since the US-led invasion of 2003.
The US initially reported the deaths of Capt Rowdy Inman, 38, and Sgt Benjamin Portell, 27, as resulting from hostile small arms fire. But Iraqi general Mutaa al-Khazraji said: "They [the joint patrol] were attacked by gunmen and the [Iraqi] soldier abused the situation and killed the two soldiers."
He said the Iraqi serviceman had been "an insurgent infiltrator". He was arrested and is being questioned. An interpreter was also wounded alongside the three other soldiers.
Tensions remain high in Mosul - an ethnically mixed area that is home to a variety of Muslim and Christian communities.
"The shooting was deliberate, it was not an accident", according to an Iraqi general, Noor al-Din Hussein.