I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
And how green is your new home?
How green is my valet?
/liberal elitist
Hey there, fine peoples
hookup, plug in and turn on, baby!
Moe will want to know.
'Morning, bats...
/ mumbled into second cup of coffee
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Tweety thinks you guys are all elitists.
Johm McCain also thinks you guys are all elitists. After all, you were complaining about the gubmint bailing out big shitpile. Only elitists would be against that.
Or you can jump on somebody's wifi.
How green is my valet?
/liberal elitist
SteveLG
SteveLG, here in America, we spell it "wallet". Those pesky German consonants mess me up every time...
I promise not to harsh on Atrios today.
Or Hillary.
My mother's 1976 vintage home has, like one phone jack and one cable outlet on each floor, and a minimal number of power outlets.
She thinks she'll sell it for a bundle some day but has no idea the sort of upgrades it'll need to make it appealing to actual 21st century homebuyers.
P.S. Tyler Hansbrough is overrated. And he'll suck in the pros.
We converted a porch to a 4-season room. A major chunk was routing all the electrical to it, because of the brick/cinder block routing options for wires (and the fact that I insisted on dedicated 20A outlets for stereo equipment.)
The stereo outlets are handy, but kind of a joke since for now anyway I removed the vacuum tube amps and am using a wallwart powered $139 special chip amp from Parts Express. Puts out less than 10 watts, but that's enough on 98db/1w/1m speakers.
McStain is so old he remembers when phone numbers were only four digits.
Good day, beautiful people! How goes by you?
I'd best be about my day ( including taxes! waaaah!).
I'll check in later... not too often, I hope.
My youngest was up at six this am and evidentally feeling very industrious as we have freshly illustrated and stapled tomes on both the solar system and the entire cast of characters of Spongebob.
can i have some orange juice with my sushi?
Elitist music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h?v=QeKkU7j2z-
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I hear some newer ones have indoor plumbing!
McStain is so old he remembers when phone numbers were only four digits.
Lime Rickey
"Hello, operator? I'm trying to reach the vice-president. Transylvania 6-5000!"
I hear some newer ones have indoor plumbing!
cahuenga | 04.12.08 - 9:08 am | #
Indoor plumbing is so elitist...
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WTF?
This is legitimate:
Cars and Ammo: Guns and Driver
Worried that your car isn't safe enough? Meet the Taurus Judge -- a pistol designed to ward off potential car jackers.
Here's the company's commercial -- check out the damage the 410 shotgun shell fired from the pistol does to that target leaning into the vehicle.
http://info.detnews.com/redesign...sblog/
index.cfm
We really and truly have lost our fucking minds, haven't we?
(More fucking coffee)
I hear some newer ones have indoor plumbing!
cahuenga
Elitists!
McStain is so old he remembers when phone numbers were only four digits.
Lime Rickey
He actually does remember before TV, and that alone disqualifies him, in my book.
I am in a nice 1960s townhouse. There are probably power strips in every room to compensate for the lack of AC plugs. A cell phone and wireless have eliminated the use of phone jacks and all but one cable connection.
How is the FAILURE OF CONSERVATISM treating YOU today?
I'd love to see Dems harping on McCain and his embrace of the deregulation underlying the current crisis.
McStain is so old he remembers when phone numbers were only four digits.
Lime Rickey
Ummmm - so do I...
/ checks self for pulse
Said this last night, but...
2000: Chardonnay is elitist
2004: Lattes are elitist
2008: Orange juice is elitist
2012: What's left? Dr Pepper?
Honest to Pete, i don't understand how people can watch the newsie stuff on television.
McStain is so old he remembers when phone numbers were only four digits.
So do I. Party lines, too.
Ummmm - so do I...
/ checks self for pulse
MasterD, damn yankee
Can't remember four, but five? Yep.
I'd love to see Dems harping on McCain and his embrace of the deregulation underlying the current crisis.
tubino | 04.12.08 - 9:11 am | #
it took john mccain three times to realize that the mortgage crisis needed a solution and he calls me out of touch.
- obama (paraphrased)
By the way, I have full coverage of Juicegate and Pizzagate on my blog.
Let's get rollin' to see sittenpretty. Take care of the cats for me while I'm away!
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Can't remember four, but five? Yep.
DWD | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 9:12 am | #
I remember booking international calls. Seems peculiar.
Yeah, I remember up in my mom's hometown in VT, the whole area was on one exchange. You only had to dial the last 4 digits.
And when we first moved to CT, the phone numbers were listed as PIoneer-4-XXXX...
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McCain's gotten the endorsement of the icemen union, and the constables and town criers are moving in his direction.
There's a point in the Tweety article where he imagines "people up and down the west side" (of Manhattan) watching his Sunday show.
Funny: those viewers (or what he imagines them to be like) are the ones he insults over and over again as not being "real people."
And just for the record, my building is 100 years old and there are definitely not enough electrical outlets.
McStain is so old he remembers when "under God" wasn't part of the Pledge of Allegiance.
Gotta go give away my platelets at the Red Cross.
McCain's gotten the endorsement of the icemen union, and the constables and town criers are moving in his direction.
MP | 04.12.08 - 9:16 am | #
Betcha the lamplighters go Dem this year...
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It always freaks me out when they tear up the streets to put in the latest, whatever-- cable lines, new sewer pipes, natural gas, something every few years. Why not build the streets with utility tunnels, so you don't have to dig up the street all the time?
I feel the same way about houses: obviously, new technologies will be developed, but it seems pretty short focused to just put in one kind of outlet, or whatever. Why not have whatever the equivalent of utility tunnels are, so you don't have break open the wall every time you've got something new?
commas owls
mournful owls
My building is old too but my apartment is renovated.
They put the outlets in some odd places though.
And just for the record, my building is 100 years old and there are definitely not enough electrical outlets.
I hear ya.
McStain has the firm support of the buggy whip industry.
SoyLeet Green!
It's made of snobs!
McStain is so old he can remember when dollar bills were silver certificates.
"I need special outlets for all my hair care needs"-Michael O'Hanlon
...the proliferation of outlets/phone jacks/cable connections in new places is pretty fascinating. They're everywhere!
Yeah, just in time for WiFi and Bluetooth...
I know the answer to this one - my husband does home automation and networking. Basically, if the walls are open, the cost of each additional network drop is negligible. Once the walls are in, each drop costs a fairly large chunk of money. So, if you are rehabbing/doing new construction the money-wise thing to do is to put in all the outlets you ever might need.
My husband has tried to get local builders to let him come in and basically put shitloads of wires in the walls before they close them up. This way they can show it to the customers with X potential network drops, which they can use or not. They all say no, because they don't want to pay. Some new neighbors who bought a house from one of the builders who turned Mr. Racine down were really pissed when they found out about this, because it's going to cost them five figures to wire the house now, while it could have been done during construction for mid-to-high three figures.
One thing that I never here mentioned when people go on about how massively too big houses are today is that people now have lots of noisy things (TV, gaming, music, computers). Noisy things each need their own separate space. The narrow-casting of entertainment is a major cause of house size explosion.
Solartubes ....... bitch!
Why not have whatever the equivalent of utility tunnels are, so you don't have break open the wall every time you've got something new?
It's called conduit. Properly installed you can pull new wires through it.
However phone jacks and cat5 cables strung room to room is so 1999. My house was built in 2002. I wired it with separate 2 separate phone lines and Cat5 going to every room. So I could put phones and computers wherever.
Today with a wireless router and multiple handset cordless phones none of those jacks ever get used.
What has gone up since 2002 is the need for coax cables. Used to be you only needed one coax drop to get cable and my house was wired with one coax drop per room. However with multi-tuner HD DirecTV satellite service I need 4 separate coax drops per receiver. Running new coax drops in my house is a major chore because I have 10' ceilings and the walls have fire-block boards installed in the walls between the studs 1/2 way up. That means I need to use a 6' long drill bit from the attic
In-wall subwoofers. They're in the bible.
Some of it is building code...I know where I live it's one outlet every 8 linear foot. Prevents overuse of single outlets (fire hazard).
Some of it is building code...I know where I live it's one outlet every 8 linear foot. Prevents overuse of single outlets (fire hazard).
Exactly. It is a trivial cost to add extra outlets during construction.
[i]However phone jacks and cat5 cables strung room to room is so 1999.[/i]
Not if you want reliable networking in a dense building, it isn't. I can see 41 802.11g networks from my apartment. Many of them interfere with mine while in use; they are distributed evenly among channels 1, 6, and 11. The only way to get reliable networking in my apartment is to use Cat 5E cable. You can have my wired network when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
[i]America seems to have fallen out of love with carpet[/i]
For good reason. Carpet sucks. It wears out in a few months, it's impossible to clean, and it looks increasingly low-rent. Real hardwood, synthetic hardwood, and tile floors are all improvements over carpet, and I'm glad to see them appearing in a lot of rental places.
sigh... not bbcode here...
For good reason. Carpet sucks. It wears out in a few months, it's impossible to clean, and it looks increasingly low-rent. Real hardwood, synthetic hardwood, and tile floors are all improvements over carpet, and I'm glad to see them appearing in a lot of rental places.
You want to scare yourself, rip out any carpet that has been installed for more than a year or so and examine how much dirt, pollen, and dust has filtered down through the carpet into the floor below. There is absolutely no way to keep it clean. Area rugs over hardwood or tile floors can at least be picked up and cleaned.
Not if you want reliable networking in a dense building, it isn't. I can see 41 802.11g networks from my apartment. Many of them interfere with mine while in use; they are distributed evenly among channels 1, 6, and 11. The only way to get reliable networking in my apartment is to use Cat 5E cable. You can have my wired network when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
Yeah, that makes sense. I live in a suburban subdivision with 1/2+ acre lots and I only see one other network, my closest neighbor's.
carpet leads to carpet mites which lead to asthma. Especially in newborns. Unless you thoroughly clean them every 6 months. And use pesticides.
That's why.
We own a triplex consisting of railway flats built in 1923. The construction was superb. All the joints were perfect, the materials solid wood, and although the mouldings is stained douglas fir rather than oak, the woodwork is outstanding. At one point in our long lives we were tempted to move to a more upscale condo, but the carpentry was cheap, and the walls and ceilings weren't real plaster like ours. The plaster costs more and you need to have an experienced plasterer to do the job right, but the result is well worth it, and it lasts. The only thing we had to do was rewire. Old is good.
You really do need to get out more!
After running RG-58 cable through the walls of my 1980-built home for 10base2 (thin coax) networking many years ago, I found the coax was useful for pulling Cat5 UTP cable through for 100baseT.
I suppose that the Cat5 will be useful when I need to replace it with some fiber.
Not going to happen until my telco decides to offer something more than 1.5Mbit DSL. I'm out in the country; no cable--and DSL came in only about 5 years ago. Heck, at the current conection speed, 10BaseT is overkill...
I did yank up all of the dreadful orange shag wall-to-wall carpeting and replace it with solid (not veneer or laminate) oak, however. Got rid of the vinyl and replaced it with ceramic tile. What was under the carpet pad was nothing short of disgusting--and I discovered that the previous owner owned a cat. Yech.
The high number of outlets is due to modern electrical codes. The cost-per-outlet is actually a pretty small portion of the whole construction (typically less than $10/per for materials and an experience electrician can add and wire one in a pre-drywall house in 5 minutes or less). [Of course, in mass developments every penny counts, since it is multiplied times hundreds of houses, but in city or custom developments it often pays the general contract to add a few extras just in case.]
The thing to *really* look for is ceiling lights in bedrooms. Code does not require these -- code allows either ceiling lights or a "switched" outlet (that is, an outlet which has the electrical controlled by a wall switch), and most developers choose to save a few dollars by using the switched outlet. Ceiling lights don't cost that much more -- maybe 10-15 minutes of an electrician's time, depending on the layout, plus the cost of the ceiling lamp -- but it's the sort of costs that a general contractor will cut. Too bad because the retrofit will be in the hundreds per room after the drywall is up.
In the late 1990s prolific ethernet and phone jacks were all the rage, but these days both phones and network tend to be wireless so there is a lot of network cable sitting unused in walls. Speaker outlets were also really popular, with whole-house sound systems, but the Ipod/MP3 revolution has greatly reduced the need for that. You still want the TV cable outlets, though.
When my parents had their "new" house built in the 1950's, local electrical code called for thinwall conduit as the only approved electrical distribution.
Then, placement of outlets and switches was a big deal and not at all cheap. Most rooms were wired "octopus" style, with a central octagonal box in the ceiling, dropping outlets and switch runs down to the walls. If you're confronted with one of those homes, adding an outlet today is really a major undertaking.
Nowadays, an electrician armed with a hole-hawg and a right-angle drill runs his Romex wherever he wants before a wall is closed in. I find some of the sloppiness and lack of forethought in some of these installations to be appalling.
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