I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Terrorist fist-bump.
really?
Peace
terraterraterra!
piece of pie
Chimpy
Those of you who have followed my career know that I'm a free market person -- until you're told that if you don't take decisive measures then it's conceivable that our country could go into a depression greater than the Great Depression’s
ennjoy
-Atrios
Evening Thread
ennjoy
WTF,, it's fracking 6:10 AM?
evening, pish posh.
There was an amazing protest in DC today that the news probably won't cover. But the Sith Lord drove by and saw himself proclaimed a war criminal on the walls of the National Archives.
Ayers is not a terraist!
http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
en-njoy is likely the opposite of enjoy.
I think we should all seek out asshats like that moron in Georgia who is so afraid of Obama and terrorist fist bump them into tears.
Anybody want some of these splendid, spicy, pickled carrots and jalapenos? Escabeche!
Thkx Hecate
Chimpy
So I want to thank you for giving me a chance to come and visit with you. Thanks for covering this summit. Goodbye.
:05PM PER SANTA ANA - ON THEIR SIDE OF THE 241 SEV PEOPLE ARE ABANDONING THEIR VEHS DUE TO SMOKE INHALATION - ADVISING TO CHECK OUR AREA
1:27PM PER 34 -- CT AT COMMAND POST -- CORONA RDS SHUTTING EB 91 TO GREEN RIVER - CT WILL COVER AND RELEIVE THERE
1:24PM PER COR PD // 70 HORSES EVACUATED FRM HORSE RANCH IN CITY GR AT 91 //ALL PEOPLE W HORSE TRAILER NEED TO BE LET THRU
1:24PM THERE WILL BE SEVERAL RANCHERS W/HORSE TRAILERS EXITING FRM THE MOUNTAINS
1:23PM DID JUMP THE FWY -- NOW ON THE SB SIDE - HEADED TOWARD THE 241
1:08PM 21 HAS WB 91 CLOSED - DIVERTING TO NB 71
Fucking Tags.
ennjoy
-Atrios
OwKayy.
Ayers is not a terrorist.
But Chimpy and Darth Halliburton are.
King Abdullah gets the money shot
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...-0184-
515h.html
I was eNNjoyiNNg the old thread, quite frankly.
Ruth
Those guys deserve all of our thanks. One was an 82 year old WWII vet. There were sixty year olds climbing that wet cold scaffold. I felt so honored to have just come upon them.
250 apartments burning ... no firefighters in sight
The Dark Side on CSpan2
Don't tell maverick -- there's a Zapatista meeting the preznit
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...-0104-
515h.html
Deacon, problem is that they were all dispatched to the Valley.
Dweezil or Ahmet?
we don't strangers in blue suede shoes..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...h?
v=hfiLCJ_DjDY
Hecate: When I was phonebanking for the Merkley campaign, they had a sheet of butcher paper on a door with the most notable responses from various called parties.
One was from a WWII vet who said that he risked his life fighting the Nazis in Europe and now they're running this country!
Of course, this will change come January 20th.
Sallyh
You got out?
Hecate, that;s great. It's their service that is being dishonored. Luv them.
Hecate, this morning. We were not ordered to evacuate, but Monsieur has bronchitis and asthma, so we packed up the menagerie and left.
Wow.
Just wow.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/
a WWII vet who said that he risked his life fighting the Nazis in Europe and now they're running this country!
I imagine those guys are getting tired of this shit.
Hormel is cranking out as much Spam as its workers can produce
For those with a few bucks just lying around not doing anything, perhaps a donation to the national SPCA/Humane Society would be welcome right now.
There are going to be a lot of displaced pets and animals as a result of the SoCal fires, and those folks always step up to help.
Joy On
Joy Off
the Joyer!
~
I just want to say that the racist scumballs at Correntewire can still fuck off as far as I am concerned.
more cowbell!
Voltaire has the blues.
~
kan i haz closed tags?
Spam “seems to do well when hard times hit,” said Dan Bartel, business agent for the union local. “We’ll probably see Spam lines instead of soup lines.”...
...Pancake mixes and instant potatoes are booming. So are vitamins, fruit and vegetable preservatives and beer, according to data from October compiled by Information Resources, a market research firm.
“We’ve seen a double-digit increase in the sale of rice and beans,” said Teena Massingill, spokeswoman for the Safeway grocery chain, in an e-mail message. “They’re real belly fillers.”
Kraft Foods said recently that some of its value-oriented products like macaroni and cheese, Jell-O and Kool-Aid were experiencing robust growth. And sales are still growing, if not booming, for Velveeta, a Kraft product that bears the same passing resemblance to cheese as Spam bears to ham...
...Invented during the Great Depression by Jay Hormel, the son of the company’s founder, Spam is a combination of ham, pork, sugar, salt, water, potato starch and a “hint” of sodium nitrate “to help Spam keep its gorgeous pink color,” according to Hormel’s Web site for the product.
Because it is vacuum-sealed in a can and does not require refrigeration, Spam can last for years. Hormel says “it’s like meat with a pause button.”
paws and belly buttons included
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Deacon--thnx for the link---scary awesome./
"paws and belly buttons included"
bah! spam rocks.
Mandatory youtube
That means you have to watch it. Especially you, voltaire.
~
I are need a beer.
bah! spam rocks.
jdw | 11.15.08 - 5:27 pm
Don't make fun of the Spam. Right now, it's a primary source of cheap protein for a lot of people.
I noticed while grocery shopping early today that it's also on sale.
This stuff needs to be stamped on....
"A Fairfield woman whose car was adorned with celebratory signs for President-elect Barack Obama is furious that a priest singled her out during Sunday morning Mass and ordered her to leave.
Elizabeth Caster admits her Toyota Sequoia was parked in a loading zone outside of the Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church in Fairfield, but said it was common practice by parishioners during services and that two other vehicles parked on either side of her vehicle were not addressed.
Caster said the Rev. Sebastian Meyer humiliated her in front of the congregation, saying from the pulpit, "We cannot have a car with Obama signs written on it on these premises. And I don't care who Obama is."
He continued, "I want this car off the premises in 10 minutes or it will be towed. Whoever's vehicle this is, I want it removed. I don't want to see that car anywhere around here," she said.
The Rev. Meyer did not return calls. An attempt to speak to him face to face ended abruptly Wednesday morning when he announced, "No, we're not writing that," and attempted to snatch a reporter's notebook away.
Caster said the priest followed her and her 10-year-old son out of the church and refused to let her park anywhere in the parking lot. She had to come back after the service to pick up her parents, who were visiting from Kenya.
She has since forgiven the pastor, she said, but noted a definite tone in his voice. "It was something to the effect of, I don't care who Obama is, he won, get over it," she said. "It seems there was some anger and animosity in his tone. You could feel the Holy Spirit sucked out of the church."
C&L has the story.
Those of you who have followed my career know that I'm a free market person --
The bailout guys kid whose been bailed out.
Diane, got Kroger? it's having an open house day. Very cheap on some things.
man, that la footage is teh suck.
NBC4 reporter: "This thing is out of control"....& she wasn't just talking about the Anaheim Hills fire she's covering!
where are the hippie health foodistas of yore, who could teach these poor bastards how to eat cheaply on brown rice, wegetables, and tofus?
.
I'm Amy, Grandpa!
.
Bail me up.
Bail me down.
Bail me in.
Bail me out.
shebop shebop shebop.
Top of the afternoon to ya
. An attempt to speak to him face to face ended abruptly Wednesday morning when he announced, "No, we're not writing that," and attempted to snatch a reporter's notebook away.
That's one thing you don't get to decide, fucktard. Goddess, I hate me some Catholic priests. Sorry. I shouldn't, but I do.
I think we should all seek out asshats like that moron in Georgia who is so afraid of Obama and terrorist fist bump them into tears.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Wouldn't take much to make them cry.
WATBs.
"Don't make fun of the Spam. Right now, it's a primary source of cheap protein for a lot of people."
not me. i likes teh spam.
Preaching hate? The Episcopal church in FT worth split up over having women and gays in ministry, folks. Obama stickers pro'ly not allowed either, I dunno.
http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/...hate-
group.html
Goddess, I hate me some Catholic priests. Sorry. I shouldn't, but I do.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
I do, too.
She has since forgiven the pastor, she said, but noted a definite tone in his voice. "It was something to the effect of, I don't care who Obama is, he won, get over it," she said.
Sounds as if it's the holy father who needs to get over Obama winning. Suck it up, padre. Suck it up. Roe v. Wade. Here to stay. Suck it up.
My dad banned spam from the house when he got back from WWII.
Diane, got Kroger? it's having an open house day. Very cheap on some things.
Ruth
No Kroger per se, and right now I'm trying to remember what name that corporate entity operates under in SoCal.
Today I just stocked up on veggies and some chicken on sale (me, I like chicken thighs). Oh, and cat food.
minty pie-thong
.
A Fairfield woman whose car was adorned with celebratory signs for President-elect Barack Obama is furious that a priest singled her out during Sunday morning Mass and ordered her to leave.
Sounds like the parish priest I had in the early 1990s who had the balls to "scold" me about my having Clinton/Gore signs in my windows.
I told him "With all due respect, YOU don't pay MY mortgage!"
The cat food is great with ...joke.
minty pie-thong
Do girl scouts selling those?
And here I am, near-empty pantry, and rainy, cold.
Fortunately, it's supposed to be sunny and cold, tomorrow. And I have plenty of time to get to Aldi, given that the Titans are playing the late game. 
.
The apartment building is melting. But we all know that fire can't naturally melt apartment building steel, so....
IT'S AN INSIDE JOB!
The fine ash is beginning to fall on my patio.
Linens n things is going out of business here...
Sounds as if it's the holy father who needs to get over Obama winning. Suck it up, padre. Suck it up. Roe v. Wade. Here to stay. Suck it up.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I hope the bastard is as miserable for the foreseeable future as we were during the last eight.
The fine ash is beginning to fall on my patio.
Babe,
Maybe you should go? At least get some stuff packed?
Here's a beer for you Deacon
E-mail spam dwindles 70% after major server provider shut down ...
Nov 14, 2008 ... SAN DIEGO — If it seems like there's a little less spam in your e-mail in-box this week, you're probably right.
news-press.com/article/20081114/BUSINESS/81114014/
1075
Ptooey on spam!
Deacon,
The ash is starting to sift down on our yard too - near I-5/Culver, Irvine.
Umm, Deacon, are you considering evacuating?
"That's one thing you don't get to decide, fucktard. Goddess, I hate me some Catholic priests. "
i got a big rw catholic church down the street...every election since 2000 they've been going with these white crosses and babies killed and 'vote pro-life' on their billboard.
a half mile down the road is another catholic church/school run by nuns, and they are cooler. they put up their own signs like 'vote your conscience'. heh. this week they put up one that said, 'congradulations, USA'.
me likes the nuns
Sorry, but this 'Life' stuff from Catholic church makes me retch. My MIL died in a Catholic hospital in RI, broke several ribs trying to resuscitate her after she pulled the 'feeds' from her arms because she couldn't take anymore, I couldn't be catholic for anything.
Babe,
Maybe you should go? At least get some stuff packed?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Thx for good wishes, but the fire is 20+ miles away from me, so in no danger here from fire. But the fire is upwind, so we will get smoke and ash carried aloft as long as the fire burns. I have my house lights on at 2:30 in the afternoon, because the sun are all gone replaced by orange-grey light.
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/liv...49&
vid=30518544
Live video Los Angeles NBC
The fine ash is beginning to fall on my patio.
Deacon Blues
Aw...man!
Deacon, stay indoors.
I know a lot of us (me included) have made trailer-trash jokes, but hundreds of mobile homes have been destroyed in this fire. That means even more hundreds of folks are now homeless.
I guess electing a new president doesn't quite change everything. I just hope it changes how this country deals with such tragedies.
And I don't care who Obama is."
I doubt that very much.
Who knew there were so many Nazis in the Senate?
Sorry, but this 'Life' stuff from Catholic church makes me retch. My MIL died in a Catholic hospital in RI, broke several ribs trying to resuscitate her after she pulled the 'feeds' from her arms because she couldn't take anymore, I couldn't be catholic for anything.
Ruth
Catholic hospitals are pits.
My dad's adopted mom died in one of those places in 1951. Renal failure.
They refused to give her any pain meds...told her to offer it up for souls in purgatory.
The fine ash is beginning to fall on my patio.
Deacon Blues
You OK where you are?
MSNBC is on the case. Damn, that wind is double-plus-ungood.
Who knew there were so many Nazis in the Senate?
Joe Lieberman | 11.15.08 - 5:40 pm
Fuck off, Joe.
Afternoon bats.
What excitement have I been missing?
Terry C, my Sisters in law all stopped being 'observant' after their mom's death. It was horrible.
The ash is starting to sift down on our yard too - near I-5/Culver, Irvine.
emma in OC
I'm in Seal Beach.
Nice bike-riding area down there tho. (under better circumstances) - my buddy and I often ride from Tustin thru Irvine to Newport.
flory: What excitement have I been missing?
A six-hour orgy that just finished up. Sorry!
.
"And I don't care who Obama is."
Yes, you do, you woman-hating, homophobic dress wearing pedophile enabling son of a bitch.
Nate Silver Signs With Penguin In Two Book Deal Worth About $700,000.
New intelligence says Mr. Silver's advance is in the neighborhood of $700,000, give or take a few grand.
http://www.observer.com/2008/med...igh-six-
figures
poofters' panties bunched!
how dare society refuse to allow a tiny minority to fundamentally change the most basic of institutions!
gays stmping their pitty-pat feet in uncontrolled rage!
gays dropping the n-word in LA!
Heather Has Two Hysterical Mommies!
the horror!
flory asks:
What excitement have I been missing?
George W. Bush is still president.
Is that exciting enough for ya?
.
Terry C, my Sisters in law all stopped being 'observant' after their mom's death. It was horrible.
Ruth
One local hellhole closed its maternity ward because women refused to have children there anymore.
They refused to do tubal ligations and they were lecturing new mothers about how they should let god plan their families.
Fuck that.
MSNBC is on the case. Damn, that wind is double-plus-ungood.
yes, Contessa Brewer is, all, like, "WOW, look at that!"
Her insightful analysis is stunning
I haven't turned on the teevee today to see when the rain was going to stop and they showed that fire.
Turned it off immediately. Haven't turned it on since.
Yea...
The shops are open, I can get ciggies!
Oh, money may be a problem. In my wallet are:
75 Australian Dollars
10,000 Korean Wan
180 Emirate Dhirms
45 Euro
20 Hong Kong Dollars
70 Sweedish Kronor
And only 26 Chinese Yuan (rembi)
And some US cash too.
I need a loan.
Well, I see Zippy the Pinhead is here.
With his same tired nonsensical gibberish.
"Bush is still president
Is that exciting enough for ya?"
in scary make you want to throw up kind of way!
Back again.
I couldn't go to sleep until I posted this: catalexis, R.I.P.
Oh, hey!
The rain is clearing!
I'm gonna go get some edibles.
bbl
.
I need a loan.
Barry from AK in Shanghai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h?
v=5XM5oZMB7JU
Barry, sounds like you are the Universal Bank - the EU are worth something, anyway.
They refused to give her any pain meds...told her to offer it up for souls in purgatory.
Mother Teresa did the same for AIDs patients. Plus she refused them visits from their companions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...h? v=5XM5oZMB7JU
Terry C - Yes We Did!
All my money is tied up in foreign currency!
re msnbc's blithering idiot--go to Deacon's live nbc la feed--same shots, reporters w/ local knowledge.
I need a loan.
Just checked my pocket.
I have lint and what I think to be an M&M.
It's yours if you want it.
.
Mother Teresa did the same for AIDs patients. Plus she refused them visits from their companions.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
Don't even get me started on that hypocritical ugly old bitch.
Starvation and death all around her caused by overpopulation and she's still preaching against birth control.
MSNBC is on the case.
Really? I thought they closed up shop for the weekends. Always thought that was pretty pathetic for a cable news channel. As if nothing important happens on Saturday and Sunday.
Marcellina, well said.
Barry, sounds like you are the Universal Bank - the EU are worth something, anyway.
Ruth
Hee, I paid a price to get Euros though.
Any word on Sallyh?
A six-hour orgy that just finished up.
I thought it was a toga party.
All my money is tied up in foreign currency!
Barry from AK in Shanghai
That's what made that song pop into my head.
"Bush is still president
Is that exciting enough for ya?"
in scary make you want to throw up kind of way!
Boy Howdy
I have to admit that I'm engaging in some serious fantasizing right now.
I envision an Obama transition team keeping track of each new Executive Order, noting its number, so that on 1/21/09 President Obama can repeal each and every one of them.
Of course, in my fantasy, President Obama signs the new executive order and then extends his right middle finger in the general direction of Crawford, Texas.
I guess electing a new president doesn't quite change everything. I just hope it changes how this country deals with such tragedies.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
One would hope that would be a minimum floor for the new admin. Can't get much worse than the current crew.
Catholic hospitals are pits.
My dad's adopted mom died in one of those places in 1951. Renal failure.
Pretty broad brush there. Catholic hospitals are not remotely what they were in 1951. Nor are any other hospitals.
Catholic hospitals are pretty much like any other these days, except that they refuse to offer any kind of family planning services.
I couldn't go to sleep until I posted this: catalexis, R.I.P.
Thanks for doing that.
SallyH checked in recently, said they left because her Sign. Other has asthma, not because they had to evacuate.
the catholic church would grow again if it could just figure out how to be more catholic.
Beautiful post, Marcellina
nbc LA reporter--folks abandoning vehicles on the 241.
George W. Bush is still president.
Is that exciting enough for ya?
.
spork_incident
~~yawn~~
so...same old, same old?
Pretty broad brush there. Catholic hospitals are not remotely what they were in 1951. Nor are any other hospitals.
A friend had a relative die in one of those places in 1968 of cancer.
She got the same "offer it up" BS.
Beautifully written, Marcellina
Marcellina -
Are the Austrians still not Germans?
.
Catholic hospitals are pits.
There's a hospital outside of Philadelphia called Lankenau, and I have a Jewish friend who refers to it as Auschwitz — because so many of her (elderly) family members died there.
Morbid, I know.
the catholic church would grow again if it could just figure out how to be more catholic.
nitPicker
Not profitable.
except that they refuse to offer any kind of family planning services.
flory
Some states require them to offer family planning & abortion if they are taking over the one hospital in a given area that provides those services. The problem is that they have taken over so many hospitals now that it is hard to find one not so connected.
nbc LA reporter--folks abandoning vehicles on the 241.
Goddess guard Barack Obama. If any leader has ever taken over with a worse mess on his/her hands, I can't think who. Ever.
I have lint and what I think to be an M&M.
It's yours if you want it.
.
spork_incident
Wouldn't think of it Spork.
Save it for lunch tomorrow.
All I was trying to convey is the absurdity of it all, I has to carry a pocket full of paper/plastic currency, and it's a pain ( literally ) when I sit down.
Not to mention the 5 kilograms of miselaneous coins I carry, dang... why does Australia have to make such HUGE coins!
SallyH checked in recently, said they left because her Sign. Other has asthma, not because they had to evacuate.
That is good.
Hope the S.O. is doin' OK.
If FishWoman checks in again tell her Sufferin' Sylvester Succotash sez hello. 
Gays To Boycott Park City Ski Area...
excellente!
There's a hospital outside of Philadelphia called Lankenau, and I have a Jewish friend who refers to it as Auschwitz — because so many of her (elderly) family members died there.
Morbid, I know.
Marcellina
That's a shitty hospital.
Thanks for reading, guys.
I'm quite amazed that I found an Eeyore with angel wings and a halo.
FYI:
I'm lowering the tone over at Echidne's yet again, with a discussion of the political economy of shit-eating.
A friend had a relative die in one of those places in 1968 of cancer.
She got the same "offer it up" BS.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
1968 was forty years ago. Forty years ago there were no cures -- or even treatments -- for cancer.
Offering it up was about all anyone could do.
If any leader has ever taken over with a worse mess on his/her hands, I can't think who. Ever.
Lincoln in '61.
FDR in '33.
Short list.
The 91 near Anaheim Hills shut-down both directions.
Ayers is not a terraist!
http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Ruth
Of course, he wasn't.
He spoke up against a criminal administration and a pointless war that was going on for decades.
No lives were lost as a result of his activities.
"As if nothing important happens on Saturday and Sunday."
yeah, but if they were open 24/7 on the weekends they'd just need to fill it with shark attacks, dead white women and stupid pet footage.
FDR ande Lincoln are the only ones to come to mind Hecate.
If any leader has ever taken over with a worse mess on his/her hands, I can't think who. Ever.
Lincoln in '61.
FDR in '33.
I'm not sure. The environment of the planet was going south on those guys, at least in ways anyone could tell. But, yeah, he's on a short list at the v least.
1968 was forty years ago. Forty years ago there were no cures -- or even treatments -- for cancer.
I'm well aware of that.
I am talking about REFUSING some one pain medication.
As if Zippy the Pinhead ever goes skiing.
Or has ever been anywhere near San Francisco.
Weird to see those Montecito mansions go up in flames. I lived in SB for a half a year, and at one point was working part-time for a Nancy-Reagan-type rich lady who collected and resold designer clothes for charity. Her house was somewhere over in Montecito, probably in ashes now.
Dammit...I've got Irene Cara in my haid.
"What a feeeeeeeeelingggg...."
Lagniappe!
Bonus Saturday catblogging, again starring the chubmonster!
At least 750 homes have burned so far in LA. Rob Lowe owned none of them.
No lives were lost as a result of his activities.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
I was so glad he finally got out and told some history, it was all right winger lies, and some people I know just sucked them in.
Reagan '81
was = wasn't
I can so spell.
Bonus Saturday catblogging, again starring the chubmonster!
rorschach, nobody
Ohhhhh....skin scratches for that sweetie!
Shit!
CHIN scratches, I meant to say.
Some states require them to offer family planning & abortion if they are taking over the one hospital in a given area that provides those services. The problem is that they have taken over so many hospitals now that it is hard to find one not so connected.
qlª - more lefty than you
That sucks...no question. But most states have now realized that they can't have the only healthcare in a given region with religious restrictions. So the Catholic hospital has to provide access for Planned Parenthood or somebody to provide those services.
I am talking about REFUSING some one pain medication.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
If that's true, it was obscene.
It was also forty years ago. Any hospital -- Catholic or otherwise -- that tried that today would be bankrupted from the malpractice lawsuit.
Luby, you being this retarded is an act right? You can't be that stupid and use the internet other than to comment on youtube videos.
we survived Carter
we survived Bubba
we'll survive The Charlatan Messiah
Ohhhhh....skin scratches for that sweetie!
Terry C - Yes We Did! | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 5:59 pm | #
I will comply.
Reagan '81
No, Reagan MADE the fucking country a mess.
There were NEVER that many homeless people on the streets till Saint Ronald of the Monster Deficit took over.
Looks pretty good for Begich.
Still not counted Anchorage.
What's taking so long?
The suspense is killing me.
The haircut scene in 'Phenomenon' makes me wish I had hair to cut. Mondo sexy.
Ayers is not a terraist!
http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
Ruth
Unless ya are a total looney
http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/...129/show/
935685
Lubyanka
Thanks for Ohio! We couldn't have done it without ya!
we'll survive The Charlatan Messiah
Lubyanka | 11.15.08 - 6:00 pm | #
And your ignorance and stupidity will likely survive all evidence of your ignorance and stupidity.
billy bucknah!
how you is, suh?
No, Reagan MADE the fucking country a mess.
There were NEVER that many homeless people on the streets till Saint Ronald of the Monster Deficit took over.
Terry C - Yes We Did! | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:00 pm | #
But... but... didn't it "trickle down" like he said it would?
No?
I liked Luby better when he was dith. But that's just me...
Still not counted Anchorage.
What's taking so long?
The suspense is killing me.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Ya gotta thank Todd Palin!
He brought attention to the AIP, abn they stole votes from Stevens.
Reverse Nader, if you will.
Thanks Palin Family, you just stepped in it.
But... but... didn't it "trickle down" like he said it would?
No?
rorschach, nobody
The poor did get pissed on.
There were NEVER that many homeless people on the streets till Saint Ronald of the Monster Deficit took over.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
I am the designated devil's advocate today.
It wasn't St Ronnie of the Rocks that closed down the mental health institutions. It was our side. And we didn't fight hard enough for the community care that was supposed to replace them.
There's plenty of blame to go around on the issue of the homeless.
Reverse Nader, if you will.
Thanks Palin Family, you just stepped in it.
Barry from AK in Shanghai
didn't it "trickle down" like he said it would?
Oh, it trickled down, alright. It's just that "it" was what usually trickles down.
I never, ever saw a homeless person in y entire life until Reagan was president.
buckner:
nice putout on Mookie
Hoo boy. Digby sure hates Dennis Miller
Nevertheless, as God is my witness, if Dennis Miller tries to come back in the fold I will make it my life's work to destroy him. I'll show up at this concerts with pictures of dead Iraqi children. I'll organize boycotts of every comedy club he tries to appear in. I'll make it my business to ensure that nobody ever forgets what a fucking jackass he has been for the past eight years.
stoat -
Hmmm. Something is different. New glasses? Haircut?
I am the designated devil's advocate today.
Obviously.
for wingers; Wunnerful letter from H.Myerson thanking the Faux crowd for the great help. http://www.azcentral.com/
arizona...yerson1112.html
hecate!
any day when the first customer you talk to is hecate doesn't suck (regardless of how it appears otherwise).
terry c = a wet sponge of leftie propaganda
Nevertheless, as God is my witness, if Dennis Miller tries to come back in the fold I will make it my life's work to destroy him. I'll show up at this concerts with pictures of dead Iraqi children. I'll organize boycotts of every comedy club he tries to appear in. I'll make it my business to ensure that nobody ever forgets what a fucking jackass he has been for the past eight years.
Digby speaks for me.
I never, ever saw a homeless person in y entire life until Reagan was president.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Thank you!
THEIR side cut off the funding of social programs.
"Take from the Needy and Give to the Greedy" Reagan.
And your ignorance and stupidity will likely survive all evidence of your ignorance and stupidity.
rorschach, nobody
The half life of wingnut ignorance is greater than the speed of light.
I never, ever saw a homeless person in y entire life until Reagan was president.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
About the time most of the hospitals and asylums for the mentally ill were closed, no?
Not that those were places of humane treatment, but we sort of threw up our hands about then....
any day when the first customer you talk to is hecate doesn't suck
I put up pics from the protest that I told you about.
I am the designated devil's advocate today.
flory | 11.15.08 -
It's not easy being the grown up sometimes.
It's not easy being green, either.
Okay, I'm off.
terry c = a wet sponge of leftie propaganda
Lubyanka | 11.15.08 - 6:06 pm | #
Lubyanka = a douchebag full of reactionary idiocy.
I am talking about REFUSING some one pain medication.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
How we treat the dying has changed dramatically over the last 40 years, thanks in large part to Florence Wald, who died last weekend (
Now on MSNBC: Sex Slaves in the Suburbs.
Okay, they're back to normal.
flory, devil's advocacy is always part of a spirited and collegial debate. you go.
nice putout on Mookie...
Wasn't funny the FIRST time you said it. GET TO WORK! - That Ken Blackwell blow-up doll isn't going to inflate all by itself!
terry c = a wet sponge of leftie propaganda
Lubyanka
Coming from you, asshole, that's a compliment.
Anything the rightards hate....
Lubyanka
Because you add so much to public discourse.
Go name yourself after another gulag, why don'tcha?
There were NEVER that many homeless people on the streets till Saint Ronald of the Monster Deficit took over.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
That's absolutely right. Starting when he was governor of California and cut mental health funding so that people who needed institutional care were dumped on the street.
Something is different. New glasses? Haircut?
if you think about who you know hereabouts who worked for tower records back in the day, and roomed with AndyMN at eschacon back when both of us went by other names... well, it won't take long to figure out.
how you doing?
The half life of wingnut ignorance is greater than the speed of light.
flory
Don't tell me the answer, I'm only half way thru the audiobook of "Brief Hitory of Nearly Everything."
Actually pretty entertaining.
I never, ever saw a homeless person in y entire life until Reagan was president.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:05 pm | #
The Old Patagonia Express by Paul Theroux has a really depressing by accident passage when he describes crossing the border into Mexico and starting to see beggars on the street - something you never see in the USA.
Published 1979.
any day when the first customer you talk to is hecate doesn't suck (regardless of how it appears otherwise).
stoat
Hah, I thought that might be you!
Now I'm really off.
About the time most of the hospitals and asylums for the mentally ill were closed, no?
Not that those were places of humane treatment, but we sort of threw up our hands about then....
Rmj, Joe the Theologist | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:07 pm | #
Indeed.
"Deinstitutionalization" was fancy talk for "fuck it."
Obviously.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
Oh, dear.
I'm supposed to agree with everything you say?
Starting when he was governor of California and cut mental health funding so that people who needed institutional care were dumped on the street.
Upsidasium
Makes me sick that these mouthbreathers think he was so great.
He was a sick joke who caused so much damage to this country and paved the way for people like Chimpy.
I'm supposed to agree with everything you say?
flory |
NEVER said that.
This is not Kos.
any day when the first customer you talk to is hecate doesn't suck (regardless of how it appears otherwise).
I see that more than one person can change their nym 'round here. 
The Old Patagonia Express by Paul Theroux has a really depressing by accident passage when he describes crossing the border into Mexico and starting to see beggars on the street - something you never see in the USA.
Published 1979.
rootless-e, mooslamisist | 11.15.08 - 6:08 pm | #
Yeah, but Theroux was a cranky, biased jackass...
Losing it & getting obsessed with this live LA feed, so a stupid Q for those who know SoCal:
I realize it's as bad as it looks where they're showing (duh), but overall LA, 'big-picture' wise, how bad is it?
well, fuck, I screwed up. Florence Wald's obit can be found here.
We can thank her for the hospice movement in this country, which I consider to be one of the most important developments of the 20th Century.
Obama pledges to put a Republican in his cabinet.
Why?
It's not like any of them have anything useful to offer.
I put up pics from the protest that I told you about.
oh, those are just as wonderful as i imagined they would be.
i wonder if they've sent some unfortunate souls out in the rain to take 'em down yet.
truth and facts = leftie propaganda
Whatever!
"Deinstitutionalization" was fancy talk for "fuck it."
rorschach, nobody
Handled one administrative hearing involving an employee of the Texas mental health care facility.
Very depressing the way they approached their work. The opposite end of the spectrum from Nurse Ratchit, but that wasn't exactly an improvement.
The via media is so easily lost to theory and ideology.
About the time most of the hospitals and asylums for the mentally ill were closed, no?
Not that those were places of humane treatment, but we sort of threw up our hands about then....
Rmj, Joe the Theologist
Eggzackly.
Our side dropped the ball, bigtime. There were plenty of warnings at the time that closing down the mental hospitals would have some serious unintended consequences.
We let the 'mental health' lobby hijack the whole argument. And play right into Ronnie's hands.
Bonus Saturday catblogging, again starring the chubmonster! - rorschach, nobody
He eated the papparazzo? Gramerciless!
Yeah, but Theroux was a cranky, biased jackass...
rorschach, nobody | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:10 pm | #
Is that you, Anne?
Hecate,
what did you change on your blogroll, that brings up the first lines of new posts from our blogs?
I think I may do this myself.
Gator punt returner just cheered me up.
'bye, quilt lady.
i am so happy to have two days off, even though there's a shitload of stuff i need to do tomorrow and monday.
teh stupid at work almost got me this week.
Lubyanka = a douchebag full of reactionary idiocy.
rorschach, nobody
He's a sore loser.
Not that those were places of humane treatment, but we sort of threw up our hands about then....
Rmj, Joe the Theologist
Not exactly. The plan was for people to receive the appropriate level of care in their own communities.
However, just as this movement got started and everyone was released from institutions, the gummint started cutting funding for it. So the initiative (which might have been a good one) withered on the vine.
And that's a major reason for the problem of homelessness, although it's certainly not the only one (what homeless people *all* have in common is extreme poverty).
He eated the papparazzo? Gramerciless!
bo | 11.15.08 - 6:12 pm | #
Tragic, but true.
I realize it's as bad as it looks where they're showing (duh), but overall LA, 'big-picture' wise, how bad is it?
mofo
The air quality i awful. Threat of power outages. Freeways closed.
Actual damage is contained in relatively small areas around the fringes of the huge LA/Orange County urban area.
Obama pledges to put a Republican in his cabinet.
I wonder if he means Gates, or someone else besides Gates?
So how come there are no snorg dudes?
you want beggars and homeless?
go to fey, twee, "progressive" San Francisco--this liberal utopia has homeless crapping on the sidewalks all over the city--
"progressive" politics on odoriferous display!
you g-g-g-g-go, g-g-g-g-guilty white l-l-l-l-l-liberals!
You know, in the end, they're going to be v sorry for Prop 8.
i was wondering if stoat was a certain fellow i'm fond of and i find out tis true
I wonder if he means Gates, or someone else besides Gates?
montag
Bob Dole
Sec of 4 hour Oboners.
Lubyanka | 11.15.08 - 6:14 pm | #
Worst. Haiku. Ever.
Obama pledges to put a Republican in his cabinet.
Yes. Please do. Then lock the door.
v4v!
Has someone told Zippy the Pinhead that California has a Repig governor?
heckate:
bring it on
Makes me sick that these mouthbreathers think he was so great.
He was a sick joke who caused so much damage to this country and paved the way for people like Chimpy.
Our crumbling infrastructure is a good indication of what 30 years of "smaller government" has done for America.
thnx Deacon---hang in.
what did you change on your blogroll, that brings up the first lines of new posts from our blogs?
marcellina,
I don't think I did anything; it just started happening. I'm hopeless at this kind of stuff.
Obama pledges to put a Republican in his cabinet.
Yes. Please do. Then lock the door.
Shaw Kenawe
So how come there are no snorg dudes?
eeew.
Zippy, your slip is showing....
All right, I'm going cold turkey with regard to responding to Lubyanka the Moron.
I suggest that we all do so.
This is an intervention.
Obama pledges to put a Republican in his cabinet.
Why?
It's not like any of them have anything useful to offer.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Any Rep senators out there who can have a Dem governor appoint a Dem successor?
stoat, give me a hint, pleeeese!
you g-g-g-g-go, g-g-g-g-guilty white l-l-l-l-l-liberals!
Lubyanka
Thank you we will gooooo.
Once we tax Joe the Plumber, the Nat'l Debt will be resolved.
flory,
They did have radiation and some chemo for cancer in '68, but they were not very sophisticated, nor were the diagnostics.
heckate:
bring it on
Hmmm, what happened the last time a Republican said that. Wait, let me think. I'll get it in a minute.
I'm sure Hecate is just quaking in her boots at Zippy's tough guy act.
it seems unfair that there are no snorg dudes. Just sayin'.
So how come there are no snorg dudes?
Boob problem, most that have em are ... unattractive.
VforV:
Are you still planning an inauguration event?
Are there local DC types involved?
All right, I'm going cold turkey with regard to responding to Lubyanka the Moron.
I thought it was performance art...
he knows a lot about wine and music, two of the best things in life
Karl has teh wallop maths
http://www.newsweek.com/id/169173/page/1
Palin lives too far from the kingmakers.
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This is an intervention.
rorschach, nobody
I will, too.
In catalexis' memory.
Pretty please, don't wanna see some guys junk hanging below the bottom hem of a snorg. The bottom hem of a snorgette---that's another story.
stoat
Hey, babes!
Any Rep senators out there who can have a Dem governor appoint a Dem successor?
Deacon Blues
What suxxorz big, BIG TIME, is how Alaska became Red.
Twas a blue state before the unfortunate deaths of a couple of folks, and the indy Hickel appointed Ted and Don.
I hate Wally. And don't get me started on his Nixon time.
You know, in the end, they're going to be v sorry for Prop 8.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
It's going to lead directly to the Loving v Virginia of gay rights.
Pretty please, don't wanna see some guys junk hanging below the bottom hem of a snorg. The bottom hem of a snorgette---that's another story.
mofo
Did you catch the diet ad the other day? With the dude that lost 46 lbs.?
Tres creepy!
Well, they were right about Edwards:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/...celebrity/
65736
Pretty please, don't wanna see some guys junk hanging below the bottom hem of a snorg. The bottom hem of a snorgette---that's another story.
mofo | 11.15.08 - 6:18 pm | #
well thats just not right.
I'm gonna take Oona for a w-a-l-k. Later.
You know, in the end, they're going to be v sorry for Prop 8.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I'd love to see the Mormons lose their tax-exempt status, but that ain't gonna happen.
It's going to lead directly to the Loving v Virginia of gay rights.
flory
Boy, if it could lead to the end of those f****ers on 5th Street in Salt Lake City, I would be fine with that.
i was wondering if stoat was a certain fellow i'm fond of and i find out tis true
hi, erinpdx! what a nice thing to say.
i couldn't be more surprised to find myself in such a good mood this evening... perhaps the fact that the "straight-ahead jazz" sirius channel was playing all day at work helped.
it's one sirius channel that's better than its xm counterpart.
Marcellina,
Anyway of contacting catelexis's family through facebook?
Actually, if the Prop 8 would lead to the end of Vatican City, I would be good with that too.
Hecate visits him with g'son, when they go shopping
I hate Wally. And don't get me started on his Nixon time.
---
Wally is an ass.
v4v, you have facebook mail.
You know, in the end, they're going to be v sorry for Prop 8.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
They do work awfully hard to make themselves obsolete.
Boy, if it could lead to the end of those f****ers on 5th Street in Salt Lake City, I would be fine with that.
Flaggers?
The Gators better not screw the pooch in Tallahassee. If'n they don't, the Bama game will be a beaut!
Well, they were right about Edwards:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/...m/...celebrity/
65736
1Watt, Hermit
Ouch - that's gonna leave a mark.
how you doing?
Eh, mediocre. Been ill (pnemonia, no fun), and need to find another gig pronto. But I & I survive. I have a song in my heart to keep dem nasty blues away!
I'm gonna take Oona for a w-a-l-k. Later.
AndyMN
Walk! ME ME ME ME!!
Oh BOY!
Not exactly. The plan was for people to receive the appropriate level of care in their own communities.
My encounter with "appropriate level of care" was that it sounded good on paper. And certainly things needed to change.
So while they weren't entirely to blame, the proponents of same bear no small share of the responsibility.
The rest, as you say, is due to factors other than mental health alone.
you g-g-g-g-go, g-g-g-g-guilty white l-l-l-l-l-liberals!
Lubyanka | 11.15.08 - 6:14 pm | #
the homeless belong to the right wing, lubby. Progressives solve problems that you fascist assholes create.
I need to take myself for a w-a-l-k to the b-a-r.
bo, not that I know. NTodd left a message that they please contact him at his e-mail addy.
Barry from AK in Shanghai | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:22 pm | #
Had some great Chinese/Korean food in Shanghai.
Cindy didn't care about Mav's first marriage and apparently didn't care about his second either.
Fuck KKKarl Rove.
Thank fucking god John Edwards didn't get the nomination.
President elect McCain would have announced Phil Gramm would be his Treasury secretary by now.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/
world_exclusive_cindy_mccain_caught_cheating_on_se
n_john_mccain_with_other_man/celebrity/65736
McCain should get a case of free samples from Bob Dole.
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I'd love to see the Mormons lose their tax-exempt status, but that ain't gonna happen.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
I dunno. At minimum, they're gonna spend a whole shitload of money defending themselves.
Leaves less for their next meddling.
It's going to lead directly to the Loving v Virginia of gay rights.
I think you're right and some powerful religious groups are going to get hurt along the way. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of civil-rights-denying motherfuckers.
Cindy didn't care about Mav's first marriage and apparently didn't care about his second either.
Neponset
I guess she wanted to be First Lady and now that she knows that dream is dead.....
flory -- the group plan calls for rooms in Richmond and a chartered bus to town for the Big Day.
And if the local Atriots *don't* get seen by me at some point, there will be tears.
stoat, give me a hint, pleeeese!
hm. my younger daughter acts and i'm lobbying for her to look at the bachelor of arts and humanities program at cmu (although i may have had this conversation with you under my present nym).
it's no great, dark secret... just a change i made.
let me know if you need me to spill the beans.
Yeah, but Theroux was a cranky, biased jackass...
I still like the old bastard, but had for years assumed that he was British. Turns out that he's a native of Medford, MA - a townie-ish suburb adjacent to mine. Explains a lot, really...
President elect McCain would have announced Phil Gramm would be his Treasury secretary by now.
Richard | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:24 pm | #
Bullshit. Even you could have beaten McCain.
I dunno. At minimum, they're gonna spend a whole shitload of money defending themselves.
Leaves less for their next meddling.
flory
Not going to do Mitt's rep much good either, I suppose.
I think some intrepid intertubes detective determined that is not Cindy.
Stoat—
Kindertransport mean anything to you??
You know, in the end, they're going to be v sorry for Prop 8.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
The reality is that gay people are the last minority where it's socially acceptable to openly malign them, marginalize them politically and even take away their basic civil rights.
Expect the wingnuts to not give up so easily for that very reason.
Bullshit. Even you could have beaten McCain.
ronjazz
Fuckers couldn't steal THIS one.
Had some great Chinese/Korean food in Shanghai.
rootless-e, mooslamisist
Some great Japanese places here too. French, German... all of em.
Shanghai is/was a wonderful town till it got too big.
Actually, if the Prop 8 would lead to the end of Vatican City, I would be good with that too.
Barry from AK in Shanghai
NOES!!
Sistine Chapel!
Now -- empty it out and turn it into a museum -- that would be gud.
But I & I survive. I have a song in my heart to keep dem nasty blues away!
i know you do.
sorry you've been under the weather. be of good cheer!
HBK--also saw sumpin that Cindy was definitely not there on date claimed by papparazzi/cell-phone-camera-geek.
And if the local Atriots *don't* get seen by me at some point, there will be tears.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID!
I have a present for the celebrants and I need somewhere to ship it.....
I think some intrepid intertubes detective determined that is not Cindy.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Bad kerning.
Karl Rove's 3 point plan for Republicans to come back to power (from the Newsweek link)
"3. Winning the war on terror is a matter of national survival. Republicans must be President Obama's best allies in waging unrelenting war against terrorists, and prod him sharply if he weakens or wavers."
The phrase "winning the war on terror" is pure bullshit. The War on Terror does not transcend all other matters as McCain kept blabbering. "Winning" whatever it's supposed to mean is not a matter of national survival. Trying to invigorate the only thing that got Bush re-elected namely making Americans scared shitless of 'terrorism'. It's the only thing that'll ever bring the Repugs back to power - 'be afraid, be very afraid'!
.
you g-g-g-g-go, g-g-g-g-guilty white l-l-l-l-l-liberals!
Guilty?
Fuck you.
We're going to go, Lubejackdick.
Get ready to have your little goober-pea nuts ripped out and shoved up your ass, hon.
The rest, as you say, is due to factors other than mental health alone.
Rmj, Joe the Theologist | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:23 pm | # [kill]
In my experience, most problems with social services have come from a board (for instance) deciding that they need a "businessperson" to run things "cost-effectively."
What usually happens after that is an orgy of nepotism, an explosion of administrative costs (salaries, in particular), and, as often as not, the closure of the facility, or the shifting of its services away from actually needy people.
The business expert then goes on to repeat the process elsewhere.
That's how it usually seemed to play out in CA, anyway.
Thank fucking god John Edwards didn't get the nomination.
I'm almost happy he wasn't the Vice president when this shit came out.
I can't even look at him. Poor Elizabeth.
The reality is that gay people are the last minority where it's socially acceptable to openly malign them, marginalize them politically and even take away their basic civil rights.
Expect the wingnuts to not give up so easily for that very reason.
Stinky | 11.15.08 - 6:26 pm | #
Arabs are still a hoot.
Now -- empty it out and turn it into a museum -- that would be gud.
flory
OK, jus cause ya asked.
Oh, and publish the entire contents of the library, all the hidden stuff.
I think you're right and some powerful religious groups are going to get hurt along the way. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of civil-rights-denying motherfuckers.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
A perfect storm of schadenfreude.
Answered, Marcellina
Kindertransport mean anything to you??
no more phone calls, folks. we have a winnaaaaah!
The Mosquito Coast was a great novel.
In my experience, most problems with social services have come from a board (for instance) deciding that they need a "businessperson" to run things "cost-effectively."
The words "MBA president" suddenly spring to mind...
flory perhaps Hecate would accept it.
Or the Mystery Guest.
What guilt?
The rightards are the ones who have things to feel guilty about.
Then again, sociopaths are incapable of guilt and don't feel empathy.
Bullshit. Even you could have beaten McCain.
a) I was born in Canada.
b) Despite running a flawless campaign against an incompetent fool and during the middle of a financial meltdown blamed on the GOP, Obama still only beat McCain by just over 6 percent in the popular vote.
Edwards would have been sunk by the revelations about his affair.
I have been wondering all this time where you've been — and never put 2 and 2 together. Sheesh, I'm dense!!!!
Anyway, glad you're still around!
I'm almost happy he wasn't the Vice president when this shit came out.
I can't even look at him. Poor Elizabeth.
Terry C - Yes We Did!
Errr... if he had been VP to Pres Kerry, I don't think it would have happened.
But he didn't end up there, and stuff happens.
I'm disappointed in him, as an early contrib.
The words "MBA president" suddenly spring to mind...
rorschach, nobody
Who ran everything right into the fucking ground.
Barry from AK in Shanghai
There was an article in the UK Telegraph yesterday about that 1-winged plane landing. Apparently a true happening.
I still think however it shook out, we got the best guy.
No question.
I have been wondering all this time where you've been — and never put 2 and 2 together. Sheesh, I'm dense!!!!
Anyway, glad you're still around!
Marcellina
I'm glad you and Erin didn't figure it out, either.
I felt like such a dolt!
Edwards would have been sunk by the revelations about his affair.
Richard | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:31 pm | #
Not necessarily. You have underestimated the hatred for the GOP.
Despite running a flawless campaign against an incompetent fool and during the middle of a financial meltdown blamed on the GOP, Obama still only beat McCain by just over 6 percent in the popular vote.
Bitch, bitch, bitch!
/snark
There was an article in the UK Telegraph yesterday about that 1-winged plane landing. Apparently a true happening.
1Watt, Hermit
Viral video, it's a fake.
Pretty cool though.
The reality is that gay people are the last minority where it's socially acceptable to openly malign them, marginalize them politically and even take away their basic civil rights.
Stinky, I think for the most part you are right. However, there is another group of people who are hungering for basic civil rights: those women (1 in 3 over the age of 45) who have had an abortion.
Ellen Goodman had a great column in the Boston Globe on the issue about a month ago (and that column is now behind a firewall, I think).
Those women have not come "out of the closet," for perfectly good reasons, given the last 15 years. I hope the new administration changes the discourse so that those women will talk more freely. It's especially important right now while we are examining the true meaning of civil rights.
Karl Rove's 3 point plan for Republicans to come back to power (from the Newsweek link)
Yes, by all means, GOPers, please keep listening to Karl Rove.
I supported Edwards at first, too.
But I'm happy with the guy who won.
Obama only got the highest vote total for a democrat since 1964. What a loser.
Sullivan has some nice photos of the anti 8 (or 2) protests across the nation.
Edwards would have been sunk by the revelations about his affair.
Richard | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:31 pm | #
Not necessarily. You have underestimated the hatred for the GOP.
ronjazz | 11.15.08 - 6:32 pm | #
I agree entirely.
And although I'm a big Obama fan, I'd rather have seen Edwards as president--he'd have been better for the working class, I think.
flory perhaps Hecate would accept it.
flory
You can email me at hecate demetersdatter at hot mail dot com
Some folks will be staying here.
Despite running a flawless campaign against an incompetent fool and during the middle of a financial meltdown blamed on the GOP, Obama still only beat McCain by just over 6 percent in the popular vote.
No accounting for the infinite stupidity of some looser folks, eh?
Thanks, Marcellina.
In a just world, KKKarl Rove's lardass would be in prison.
5 210 405 freeways just reopened, so yay for those folks up there!!
The business expert then goes on to repeat the process elsewhere.
That's how it usually seemed to play out in CA, anyway.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Funny how the whole 'mission' that was supposed to justify the tax-exempt status in the first place pretty much goes by the wayside.
On the other hand -- in our current greed driven culture, most social service organizations have only two sucky options:
1. Turn into businesses and survive to serve some portion of their clients
2. Maintain the purity of their mission and go bankrupt.
Be nice if we could find a happy medium somewhere.
b) Despite running a flawless campaign against an incompetent fool and during the middle of a financial meltdown blamed on the GOP, Obama still only beat McCain by just over 6 percent in the popular vote.
Given Obama was:
1) largely unknown
2) African-American
3) had, by his own admission, a "funny name"
That he won at all is remarkable. It says much about him, but much about McCain, too. And about the preferences of the country.
The 6% spread, IOW, isn't really all that significant.
Edwards was not a Black Nationalist Muslim Socialist, either. Only 6%? Please.
btw, i do have a couple of spots in my arlington house which could be available for atriot friends who want to come to d.c. in january, should the mass inauguration get-together fail to materialize (or whatever).
Obama only got the highest vote total for a democrat since 1964. What a loser.
trifecta
Yeah, really.
Obama only got the highest vote total for a democrat since 1964. What a loser.
trifecta
IE.. No mandate.
..... Karl Rove
Those women have not come "out of the closet," for perfectly good reasons, given the last 15 years.
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:33 pm | #
That's because abortion causes cancer and depression and psoriasis!
Obama only got the highest vote total for a democrat since 1964. What a loser. - trifecta
When is that one going to close the deal?
Edwards was not a Black Nationalist Muslim Socialist, either. Only 6%? Please.
ronjazz
ya left out terrist facist.
Obama still only beat McCain by just over 6 percent in the popular vote.
There were a lot of racist assholes out there who would rather vote against their own interests than vote for a black man.
Scott McClellan is live on cspan2/BookTV, fixing to take questions.
He just described Boosh telling him that contrary to the then current official line, he had ok'd Scooter leaking classified info.
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That's because abortion causes cancer and depression and psoriasis!
rorschach, nobody
And breast cancer.
Let's not forget THAT load of bullshit that the anti-choice idiots try to peddle.
I'm glad you and Erin didn't figure it out, either. I felt like such a dolt!
it only seems obvious once you know the answer.
Hecate:
U haz mail
That's because abortion causes cancer and depression and psoriasis!
rorschach, nobody
Fucking PTSD. In men.
Chatting here is the only thing that kept me from throwing something at a classmate who was presenting on this "topic" in my Crisis Intervention class. She found some information on the intarwebs. I hope she flunked.
Made me absolutely livid.
Arabs are still a hoot.
True. They remain victims of ignorance and bigotry, and sadly, even crime and violence. But at least they have civil rights that protect them from discrimination based on religion, national origin and ethnicity.
The gay folks got nuthin', and god knows why, but the whackadoodles are sure out to fight tooth and nail to make sure it stays that way.
You have underestimated the hatred for the GOP.
I think you overestimate the intelligence of the voting public. As I said, despite having everything stacked against him, McCain still was alarmingly close to Obama in the end, and lets not forget he actually had the lead coming out of the GOPer convention.
In a sane world, McCain's loss would have been McGovernesque.
Edwards was not a Black Nationalist Muslim Socialist, either. Only 6%? Please.
ronjazz
And is hell on hangars.
Who will pitty the poor mutilated hangars used for back alley abortions.
All they wanted in their life was to hold your shirt, crisply pressed from the Chinese laundry.
But no... they get sacrificed, cut up and bent, to be stuck up some strange uterus, only to come out bloody and eventually.... rust away.
Who will remember the hangars?
There's a story from WWII of a DC 3 missing a wing. So they fastened a DC-4 wing on it and the damned thing flew.
Trifecta,
I can't play scrabble with you — this beta version doesn't work outside N. America or something. Sorry.
Fucking PTSD. In men.
Geezus, I remember The Nation doing a story on that.
Puh-leeze.
smokin' sheetz.
There's a story from WWII of a DC 3 missing a wing. So they fastened a DC-4 wing on it and the damned thing flew.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮
Nope, close but no cigar.
Twas a DC-2 and DC-3.
Thanks for playing.
And although I'm a big Obama fan, I'd rather have seen Edwards as president--he'd have been better for the working class, I think.
rorschach, nobody
I do wonder, now. I wasn't an Obama fan at first. But more and more I see in him either FDR or LBJ: a real ability to get things done, rather than to pose as the friend of the working class, while being otherwise ineffectual.
We'll see, we'll see, but more and more I wonder how effective Edwards would be in the Oval Office.
As far as the election results are concerned:
Obama won in a landslide.
Period.
In a sane world, McCain's loss would have been McGovernesque.
Richard | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:39 pm | #
Given a white foe, it would have been.
OK, I'm going to take another Saturday lie-down for a bit.
Those of you who might be interested: I have a post up with some unsolicited advicefor our President Elect.
Later, folks.
To be more specific Obama received the highest electoral vote for a Democrat since 1964.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0...a/
A0781450.html
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I hope she flunked.
Made me absolutely livid.
V for Virginia, YES WE DID!
I hope she got kicked out of the program.
Anybody with those kinds of built in anti-evidence biases doesn't belong in your field.
We'll see, we'll see, but more and more I wonder how effective Edwards would be in the Oval Office.
Rmj, Joe the Theologist | Homepage | 11.15.08 - 6:41 pm | #
I agree, and yet we don't really have any idea how effective Obama will be, either.
Here's the story, V for Virginia.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...080204/
blustain
WATBs!
I agree, and yet we don't really have any idea how effective Obama will be, either.
ronjazz | 11.15.08 - 6:42 pm | #
an endless 67 more days to go.
Because it is vacuum-sealed in a can and does not require refrigeration, Spam can last for years. Hormel says “it’s like meat with a pause button.”
Ahhhh.
"Meat with a pause button."
I got me a new psuedonym.
Given a white foe, it would have been.
We agree to disagree then, because I really think John "I can't keep it in my pants" Edwards would have fucked it up.
Clinton has a lot a baggage that might have dragged her down in the end.
Obama ultimately won because he is most skilled politician out of the lot of them.
We agree to disagree then, because I really think John "I can't keep it in my pants" Edwards would have fucked it up.
He woulda lost. Convincingly unconvincing.
Obama still only beat McCain by just over 6 percent in the popular vote.
The reality is that about 67 million people didn't vote for Old Grandad and Young Grandma.
And that's way more than 6 percent of the voters.
53 percent's kind of an ass-whuppin, I don't even think Reagan got that in 1980.
Reagan's two elections...
1980
Ronald Reagan 50.7%
Jimmy Carter 41.0%
John Anderson 6.6 %
1984
Ronald Reagan 58.8%
Walter Mondale 40.6%
and starting to see beggars on the street - something you never see in the USA.Published 1979.
We had plenty of hobos travelling thru the southwest around that time - travelling men always would follow the sun. But only a very very few years later did we start having 'homeless' folks on the streets - sometimes whole families. They didn't have a clue how to live off the land, didn't know where to find shelter or supplies. '84 is when we had this huge upsurge in 'accidental' fires - fires set by folks looking to make a little warming fire but too ignorant to know how to do it. Even the hobos were astounded.
another set of tests, #1.
2nd one
hmmm
howzabout this?
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