I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

July 5, 2009

Clerical Group Defies Leader on Disputed Iran Election

By MICHAEL SLACKMAN and NAZILA FATHI

CAIRO — The most important group of religious leaders in Iran has called the disputed presidential election and the new government illegitimate, an act of defiance against the country’s supreme leader and the most public sign of a major split in the country’s clerical establishment.

The statement by the Association of Researchers and Teachers of Qum represents a significant, if so far symbolic, setback for the government and especially the authority of the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, whose word is supposed to be final. The government has tried to paint the opposition and its top presidential candidate, Mir Hussein Moussavi, as criminals and traitors, a strategy that now becomes more difficult — if not impossible.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/ 0...agewanted=print


Make it interesting.
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Gravatarit's okay to peek through your fingers


Gravatarhey


Gravatar"Gonna go on the roof and listen to some fireworks."

Closing all my windows and tuning them out.


Gravataryou're a real roamin' candle


GravatarClerical Group Defies Leader on Disputed Iran Election

That IS interesting.


GravatarI'm going to have to shut the backdoor soon because the noise is getting obnoxious.


Gravatarat least here in the PA hinterlands, the neighborhood knucklheads only go crazy for a couple of nites. Where I lived in San Francisco, it started in early June.


GravatarAh. The first boomboom started. The only day of the year when I'm glad I don't have dogs right now.


GravatarOkay, I have to have a fresh fountain Diet Coke and I see Agent O is backing out on his deal.

I'll be back in a bit.


Gravatar"Had something to do with a load of coal . . . Really disgusted me. She also made homophobic remarks at dinner."

I bet you Faux News is a regular feature of her home entertainment.


GravatarThey aren't all fireworks. Urban hellhole, and all that. Be sure to dodge.


GravatarClean sheets on the beds!  Mmm.


GravatarWe had our daylight fireworks before Compline -- life in a monastery!


GravatarPrior, how are you?  Is your ankle better?


GravatarWe had our daylight fireworks before Compline

What's that like? Daylight fireworks?


GravatarLeft... BELOW!

"And he lived to tell???!!!"

It really was horrifying. Much like watching a snake eat a mouse.

He was just shovelling it in and SMILING!

The authorities need to dig up his crawlspace!


GravatarNY, NJ, DE, MA, RI - the only states which ban consumer fireworks.

Western Mass is looking good right about now...


Gravatarhave never, ever heard the national fireworks as clearly in my neighborhood as tonight.

honest to god they sound like they're right across the street, rather than several miles away.


GravatarWhat's that like? Daylight fireworks?

You have to close your eyes to see them.


GravatarDead threaded from below...

Finnish words are really really long so breathing must adjust to that.
Echidne |

I did put quotes around the word snort!

btw My uncle was killed fighting the Finns in 1940 when the Soviets attacked them. Shit happens.
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Agent Orange | 07.04.09 - 9:36 pm | #


GravatarNeppy did not like fireworks last year. This year he is calmly sitting in our living room in Vermont, not worrying about them in the slightest.


Gravatarhmm might as well see whats on sci fi-oh the monsters of maple st, i think i remember that one


GravatarWhat's that like? Daylight fireworks?

You have to close your eyes to see them.


I just rub my eyes real hard...


Gravatarbtw My uncle was killed fighting the Finns in 1940 when the Soviets attacked them. Shit happens.

I wasn't born then so I plead innocent.


GravatarThis National Show on PBS is kinda...lame.

Cute, but I'm distracted.


GravatarWeirdest fireworks I've ever seen were on new years eve at a local ski area that does night skiing. It was very foggy, so you'd hear the rocket go up, hear the boom, and then all of the fog for 360 degrees around would turn colors. Surreal.


GravatarI just rub my eyes real hard...
NTodd,שלו


Y'know that's often a much better show.
.


GravatarJimmy Smits makes me weak in the knees. He is seriously hot, and he could seriously have me forever.


Gravatar"NY, NJ, DE, MA, RI - the only states which ban consumer fireworks."

Honored more itn the breech than the observance!

1812 Overture on now.

I've been ther eon the Charles a few times for this. It's always spectacular!


GravatarOMFG, last year's road trip was so goddamned fun.

Given this is the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11, it seems apt to whore our visit to the Deke Slayton Museum in Sparta, WI.


GravatarSallyh --
Ankle is as good as it will get -- tells me when it's gonna rain -- had an unpleasant infection recently -- prostate or bladder (both?) -- appointment Monday PM, but it seems to have cleared up - should I go in anyway?


GravatarBBL, must fully pay attention to the Pops for a few minutes.


Gravatarshould I go in anyway?
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 9:43 pm |


YES! (I am screaming!)
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GravatarPrior, you should probably err on the side of caution.  Of course, I'm not that good at following my own advice.


GravatarPrior, go in.

I'd ask you how your erections are (can be involved in those issues you mentioned), but you know...that's kind of crossing the cloth, so I won't be so rude...


Gravatarwas very foggy, so you'd hear the rocket go up, hear the boom, and then all of the fog for 360 degrees around would turn colors. Surreal.
Gromit


Heh. That's about 3 out of 4 years in San Francisco.


GravatarVicki --
I'm not as young as I used to be -- I do have a benign enlarged prostate (now everyone knows!) -- I take Flomax (not generic!) -- getting old is not for wimps ...


GravatarFireworks in full force in the neighborhood here. The ferocious pit is under my desk downstairs, scared to death.

It's been to dry here to do fireworks in this wooded area.


Gravatar Prior Aelred


GravatarThree construction workers, an Australian, a Finn and a Swede, are sitting on a beam on the tenth floor about to have their lunch.

The Australian opens his lunch box and says "Bloody hell - meat pies again! Every day it's bloody meat pies! If I get meat pies again tomorrow, I'm going to jump!"

The Finn opens up his lunch next. "Saatana! Makkara (sausage) again! Always sausages! If I get sausage tomorrow, I'm gonna jump too!"

The Swede is the last to open up his lunch. "Ah crap - meatballs again! Why always meatballs? If I get meatballs tomorrow, I'm going to jump too!"

The next day the Aussie opens his lunch box and it's a meat pie... He jumps to his death.

The Finn opens his lunch box and, yes, it's a sausage. He too jumps to his death.

The Swede opens his lunch and sadly there's a pile of meatballs, so he jumps too.

The three widows of the construction workers are talking at the funeral and the Aussie's wife says "I don't understand. I thought my husband loved meat pies! If he didn't want them he should have said something!"

The Finnish widow says "Same here - I thought my husband wanted sausages! Why didn't he say something?"

The Swede's widow says, "I don't get it... my husband made his own lunch."


GravatarPrior,

Just be cautious...here's to good health.


Gravatar"too" dry


GravatarPgh played MLK and JFK reading speeches, and Bruce singing during their fireworks.


Of course they also played some terrible country shit.


GravatarHere

Undead


GravatarAlaska's greatest gift to the US?
Helping Obama get elected. Thank you Sarah Palin.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS...alin/ index.html
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GravatarIs Penguin Fan still here?


GravatarPgh played MLK and JFK reading speeches, and Bruce singing during their fireworks.


Ours don't start for 45 minutes, but it isn't even dark here (totally) yet. Still dusk.


Gravatar
I'd ask you how your erections are


free and fair.


Gravatar"Lucy in the sky with diamonds"


I'm going to say Pgh did better than DC, sorry.


Gravatar70th anniversary of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h? v=a4msaZTJrTA


GravatarIs Penguin Fan still here?
ms fahrenheit


He's an old softie. My guess is that he's watching the fireworks from his parking lot. He's probably tearing up. Don't tell him I said that, of course.


GravatarA little but know fact (re: Finns, etc.) -- when Bruno Ganz (the actor who played Hitler in "Der Untergang") was researching the part, he studied a recording of Adolf Hitler when he held a private conversation with Field Marshal Gustaf Mannerheim of Finland. Hitler unexpectedly showed up to congratulate Mannerheim on his 75th birthday on June 4, 1942. Finnish intelligence agents secretly made the recording in a train wagon (Hitler did not allow recordings nor photographs to be taken in private). Some 11 minutes of the recording feature relaxed, normal-tone talk in which Hitler generally describe his views about the war. One of two copies of the tape was discovered in 1992 and has since been studied by scientists and historians.


Gravatar70th anniversary of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h? v=a4msaZTJrTA
Uncle Blodge, MTC


It's hard to believe we're not further along in stopping that disease.
.


GravatarThe neighborhood fireworks competition has begun here. Noisy.


GravatarDon't tell him I said that, of course.
Vicki | 07.04.09 - 9:54 pm | #

Pgh didn't have Zambelli's (local) do their fireworks display this year and I was wondering what was up?


GravatarThe 1812 never gets old!

Boston OWNS the 4th.


GravatarPgh didn't have Zambelli's (local) do their fireworks display this year and I was wondering what was up?


He might know. He's downtown almost every day.

I saw fireworks there twice: once on New Year's Eve (great display, btw), and once at a Pirates game.


GravatarBoston OWNS the 4th.
Chris Tucker: Flawnting


[ahem] Philadelphia? [ahem]
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GravatarRemember when Calvin (of "& Hobbes") found out that they had real cannon in the 1812 overture -- "And I thought classical music was boring!"


GravatarI'd ask you how your erections are

Wood you?


GravatarThe 1812 never gets old!

except the music part.


Gravatar[ahem] Where did the Revolution start? [ahem]


GravatarI wouldn't want Pgh to win this contest TOO.


GravatarEvening, all.

Been away since the afternoon -- anything irksome happening this Independence Day?


Gravatar"Where did the Revolution start?"

First Avenue?


Gravatar[ahem] Where did the Revolution start? [ahem]
Chris Tucker: Flawnting!


So enjoy Patriots' Day already.
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Gravataranything irksome happening this Independence Day?
steve simels


steve mcnair did not have a good day.


GravatarI dislike fireworks.


GravatarOoh -- Toby's here?

Hey Tobes -- want to deny that you ever said Plame and Wilson were going to be indicted again?

I wouldn't, if I were you...


GravatarI'd rather listen to 2112.

"Passage to Bangkok" makes me want to crank the stereo in my Hummer to eleven and go around slaying the mudpeoples with my roof-mounted .50.


GravatarHey steve simmels, newest FB fried!

You dint answer my Duffy question -- bottle blond Winehouse wannabe or Dusty come again (maybe the 1st answer is right 4 the 1st album & the 2nd 4 the 2nd album ...)


GravatarPastehead, I pity you, actually.


Gravatarpure class.


Gravatarnice. more stuff toby can later deny he ever said.


GravatarSimels tell me again what you thought of Public Enemies.


GravatarAh yes, listening to fireworks on the rooftop, a great San Franciscan tradition.


GravatarThe 1812 never gets old!

Boston OWNS the 4th.


But 1812 happened after 1776. And was about a completely different war.


GravatarToby has watched that one helicopter scene in Full Metal Jacket too many times, thinks it was pro-war.


GravatarPastehead, I pity you, actually.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 10:02 pm | #


I notice you're not denying you said it now.

At least since Jeffraham posted the quote last night.


Gravatar"Where did the Revolution start?"

In the hearts of patriots.


GravatarIsrael cannot control the waters through which aid can be delivered. And how else to gain attention to something nobody is paying attention to, but through stunts?
NTodd,שלו

Well, they're attempting to control everything (as you indicated with regard to access to water), which makes sovereignty a little difficult, doesn't it?


Gravatar"Where did the Revolution start?"

In the hearts of patriots.
Toby Petzold




GravatarBut 1812 happened after 1776. And was about a completely different war.
NTodd,שלו


otoh, 'moonlight sonata' is not enhanced by cannonfire.


GravatarJingoism is for people who have no point to their lives.


GravatarWell crap, the hummingbird just came around to check out the feeder, and I have it down right now for cleaning. I feel very guilty.


Gravatar[ahem] Where did the Revolution start? [ahem]

Where Sam Adams' agitprop said it did?


GravatarAlso -- is the newest from Augustana any good (we have NO decent radio stations around here!)


GravatarSimels tell me again what you thought of Public Enemies.
ms fahrenheit | 07.04.09 - 10:03 pm | #


Mostly a mess, but Depp is mesmeric and the last twenty minutes are quite brilliant.

That said, there's an I Don't Think So! scene that surpasses Sylvester Stallone performing surgery on himself in RAMBO III. I mean, just ludicrous....


GravatarAnd yes, Boston really DOES OWN the 4th.

http://www.july4th.org/


GravatarPastehead, your still can't get the quote right, can you? Don't you realize that your allegation was wrong this whole time or are you not able to read?

Abusing that much junk for that long has obviously done something to your mind.

I do pity you.


GravatarAretha can still sing.


Gravatarthe economy may be in the shitter, but none of my neighbors skimped on boom booms.


GravatarToby has watched that one helicopter scene in Full Metal Jacket too many times, thinks it was pro-war.

He just doesn't lead the water buffalo so much?


GravatarA reminder

Toby is not worth talking to


GravatarI do pity you.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 10:05 pm | #


And we know you're a liar. About everything.

Tell us again how you're not really afraid of your ice maker.


GravatarToby has been abusing his junk for so long it has affected his mind.


GravatarI don't think I've ever seen my country so divided and depressed on the Fourth of July in my lifetime....The current situation is grim.

Obama is already over. In six short months the now-spattered bumper stickers with "Hope and Change" seem like pathetic remnants from the days of "23 Skidoo," the echoes of "Yes, we can" more nauseating than ever in their cliché-ridden evasiveness. Although they may pretend otherwise, even Obama's choir in the mainstream media seems to know he's finished, their defenses of his wildly over-priced medical and cap-and-trade schemes perfunctory at best


GravatarI'm sorry, Vicky. I meant to say the Revolution started in the pants of patriots.


GravatarBut 1812 happened after 1776. And was about a completely different war.
NTodd,שלו

But the British were involved.


GravatarAnd yes, Boston really DOES OWN the 4th.

Does not! :-P
.


Gravatar"Aretha can still sing."

yup, but she didn't double time the 'sock it to me's.


Gravatar"Where did the Revolution start?"

In the hearts of patriots.
Toby Petzold


Tobes, you do realize that if you'd been around in 1776, you would have been a Crown loyalist, right?


GravatarIf you're gonna quote Simon, why don't you give him credit, Pastehead?

Can you say BUSTED?


Gravatarthe economy may be in the shitter, but none of my neighbors skimped on boom booms.
jdw


Same here.

In fact, I'm glad you came on, because you remind me that I need to close the door before the big boomers start in a half an hour.

I'm less than a mile away from the huge display over the river, and it kills my dog's ears. (And his constitution - he's a nervous neddie.)


Gravatarsee, this is what irks me about red sox fans, too... they win a world series and suddenly they invented baseball.



GravatarAlthough they may pretend otherwise, even Obama's choir in the mainstream media seems to know he's finished, their defenses of his wildly over-priced medical and cap-and-trade schemes perfunctory at best
steve simels

Has it been only six months?


GravatarWow -- I've just been namestolen WITH gravatar.


GravatarGet some, Prickstein. Get some.


GravatarWhat the hell is simels doing with Terry C's gravatar? I am confused.


Gravatar" (And his constitution - he's a nervous neddie.)"

yup. almost all the cats are freaked.


GravatarDoes not! :-P

Don't you stick that tongue out unless you plan to use it, Piano-man!

I'm back freshly Diet Coke'd. Did y'all miss me?

Wait, don't answer that. I can't take any more rejection right now - had enough lately!


GravatarWhen nym and gravatar stealing try to match up the correct nym with the correct gravatar.


GravatarTlazolteotl, I make sure my feeder is cleaned and back on the hook within five minutes. Otherwise my window gets buzzed by the hummingbirds. There are many of them here this summer. I love watching them out my window while I work.


GravatarSimulacrum steals names and then claims he's been namestolen?

Right.


GravatarWow -- I've just been namestolen WITH gravatar.
steve simels

I knew they'd catch on eventually..


GravatarGulf Coast fireworks were amazing. Saw displays in the distance from Sanibel Island down to Naples. Kids were playing and the salt air was intoxicating. Reminded me of John Adams' letter to Abigail.

"I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, by succeeding Generations, as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, Guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more."


GravatarNeppy did not like fireworks last year. This year he is calmly sitting in our living room in Vermont, not worrying about them in the slightest.
NTodd,שלו | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 9:40 pm | #


I was just thinking about that, watching my beasties react to the fireworks (not well).

So, you don't have too many illegal fireworks in your 'hood? You wouldn't mind a few extra visitors next Fourth? We can camp outside.


GravatarWow -- I've just been namestolen WITH gravatar.
steve simels | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 10:08 pm


But with the wrong gravatar. I give it a 2 on the namestealing scale. Clumsy.


GravatarI'm going to have to shut the backdoor soon because the noise is getting obnoxious.
Vicki

Scares our beloved lil' critters...Our country was born in violent chaos. Tell me why, again, we celebrate it this way?


GravatarI meant to say the Revolution started in the lack of pants on Atriots.

Filleted your testicles.


Gravatargo whine somewhere else toby


GravatarWhat the hell is simels doing with Terry C's gravatar? I am confused.



GravatarBut with the wrong gravatar. I give it a 2 on the namestealing scale. Clumsy.
Libby Spencer


is there a 'darwin award' for blog commenters?


GravatarI didn't know Vicki spelled her name with two i's.


GravatarI make sure my feeder is cleaned and back on the hook within five minutes. Otherwise my window gets buzzed by the hummingbirds.

Hey, no flirting!


GravatarDon't talk to the trolls.

--Nancy 'BJ' Reagan


GravatarOK -- I give up -- g'nite bats!


GravatarI am rushing to make nectar now.


Gravatar'nite prior.


GravatarFilleted your testicles.
Vicki

Ouch.


GravatarDoes anyone know the identity of the Cheeto in Toby's Beard?


GravatarSomeone stole Simels' name with Terry C's gravatar?


Gravatar--Nancy 'BJ' Reagan
Anonymous

Frank, is that you?


GravatarG'night Prior. Sweet dreams.


Gravatarnamestealing has taken a new and incredibly boring turn!


GravatarSomeone stole Simels' name with Terry C's gravatar?
Vicki | 07.04.09 - 10:11 pm | #


On my end, there was an Obama slur with my name and gravatar. I'm assuming that's what everybody else saw.


GravatarEver see a fireworks display from the air? Very cool. I seem to have flown on the fourth several times.


GravatarWhy does a prior need erections, anyway?


GravatarSo, you don't have too many illegal fireworks in your 'hood? You wouldn't mind a few extra visitors next Fourth? We can camp outside.

No, we have lots. But Tune's apparently adjusted, maybe because Mex and Kayla don't give a shit.


GravatarDon't you stick that tongue out unless you plan to use it, Piano-man!

You wanna hear the black keys or not,
'cause if you don't see sharp you'll be flat!
.


GravatarAh...Apparently the fireworks frightened a nearby skunk. Or is that the fireworks themselves?


GravatarSimels, why don't you quit fucking around with the "namestealing"?


GravatarWe have fireworks all around. Had to navigate around a pack of adolescent boys and their fireworks in the middle of the street a block over.

Was going to walk over to watch the show with the dog, but thinking better of it.


GravatarI love the colored fireworks that make flowers and stuff. The noisy ones, not all all. Never understood the point of the ones that just boom.

Not big on firecrackers either. Sparklers are good though. Should have bought a pack.


Gravatarahem] Where did the Revolution start? [ahem]
Chris Tucker:
Lexington, my home town.


GravatarEver see a fireworks display from the air? Very cool. I seem to have flown on the fourth several times.
Anonymous


only once, but yeah it was pretty incredible... six seater plane coming up the potomac into national airport.

which i will never ever call r**g*n, even if it means i miss a flight.


GravatarKrugman:

Something like 97 percent coverage for people already here, at a total cost somewhere in the $1 trillion range. Bear in mind that the Bush tax cuts cost around $1.8 trillion over a decade. We can do this — and have no excuse for not doing it.

Damn straight.


GravatarWas going to walk over to watch the show with the dog, but thinking better of it.
Integral ♠ Lit

I went out and watched. Not bad.


GravatarI hope my birds do okay with the fireworks tonight. Looks like a bunch of people in the neighborhood have them in spite of the ban, and the very hot dry weather.


Gravatar"Gonna go on the roof and listen to some fireworks."

Is that what the young kids are calling it these days?


GravatarWhat Vicki (and Krugman) said.


GravatarSo is the troll or nymstealer going to own up?


Gravatar"ahem] Where did the Revolution start? [ahem]
Chris Tucker:
Lexington, my home town.
"

You are TECHNICALLY correct.

The BEST KIND of correct!


Gravatarwhich i will never ever call r**g*n, even if it means i miss a flight.
stoat


I'm with ya. It'll always be National to me.


Gravatar"Not big on firecrackers either. Sparklers are good though. Should have bought a pack."
--Libby Spencer

I always liked sparklers too. We would swirl them around and write words in the air with them.


GravatarYou wanna hear the black keys or not,
'cause if you don't see sharp you'll be flat!
.
Agent Orange


Oh yeah, baby. Reach for those black keys.


GravatarSo is the troll or nymstealer going to own up?



GravatarNever understood the point of the ones that just boom.

They're called 'salutes'.
Generally used in the beginning to announce the upcoming fireworks. Also used at the end to make a lot of noise for goosebumps.
.


GravatarSo, you don't have too many illegal fireworks in your 'hood? You wouldn't mind a few extra visitors next Fourth? We can camp outside.

No, we have lots. But Tune's apparently adjusted, maybe because Mex and Kayla don't give a shit.
NTodd,שלו | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 10:13 pm | #


How can you have lots? You don't any people.

So, I must win the Lotto, and spend the fourth somewhere where there's no one for miles around.


Gravatarnaughty words, mer?

nice words, i bet.


GravatarI'm with ya. It'll always be National to me.
Anonymous

Goddamned wingnuts want to name every thing after that self - righteous, senile old bastard..


GravatarOn my end, there was an Obama slur with my name and gravatar. I'm assuming that's what everybody else saw.
steve simels


That's what I saw.


GravatarFun fireworks fact -

The most burns at er from fireworks are from sparklers, esp when they were all those metal one. The can get a little hot and if you grab them in the wrong place . . .

My son liked to bundle them up with duct tape and make huge bombs out of them. Scared the shit out of me.


GravatarAnonymous was me. Lost all my info, somehow.


GravatarWe have fireworks all around. Had to navigate around a pack of adolescent boys and their fireworks in the middle of the street a block over.

Was going to walk over to watch the show with the dog, but thinking better of it.
Integral ♠ Lit | 07.04.09 - 10:14 pm | #


Old neighborhood, had a guy three blocks away who set up a fairly elaborate display, in the middle road. Finally called the cops on him.


GravatarAn interesting Finnish pop piece. It's all about religion vs. sex and stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=e...feature=related


GravatarMy son liked to bundle them up with duct tape and make huge bombs out of them. Scared the shit out of me.

Hope he still has all his fingers.


GravatarOn my end, there was an Obama slur with my name and gravatar. I'm assuming that's what everybody else saw.
steve simels | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 10:12 pm


I saw a different dog.


Gravatari loved roman candles when i was a little kid and spent summers with my g/parents in kansas.

stick the suckers in the ground, light 'em and run like a m/f'r.


GravatarIt's all about religion vs. sex and stuff.

too many consonants.


GravatarFinally called the cops on him.
Buckeye ...


It's legal here. Ugh.

Hope he still has all his fingers.
Gromit


Yes, thank God. I yelled at him about it but when they're 18 and can go out to the river, not much you can do. Told him to keep his damn face back. I think he's outgrown it now (21 YO).


Gravatar"nice words, i bet."
--stoat



Well, I was six or seven, so as my mother would say, don't say shut up, say hush. She hated the words shut up.

Although, occasionally, she would say, shit, pardon my French.

Two or three letter words at most.


Gravatar"I love the colored fireworks that make flowers and stuff. The noisy ones, not all all. "

i like the loud ones that you can feel in your chest.


GravatarAlso, the guy is hot.


GravatarOkay, well on that note, I'm outta here.


GravatarIt sounds like the freekin' Battle of Midway's going on out there -- must be the combined forces of the next village over and the tennis club, along with half the adolescents (and their dads) in the neighborhood. The cats are doing okay with it. (Good cats.)


Gravatar
Oh yeah, baby. Reach for those black keys


*lightbulb*

Now I know what you're talking about. And I was the one who pointed out that the dude in the video couldn't hit the black keys.

I think I need a new brain. Or a vacation.


GravatarFinally called the cops on him.
Buckeye ...

It's legal here. Ugh.

Hope he still has all his fingers.
Gromit

Yes, thank God. I yelled at him about it but when they're 18 and can go out to the river, not much you can do. Told him to keep his damn face back. I think he's outgrown it now (21 YO).
Integral ♠ Lit | 07.04.09 - 10:22 pm | #


Not legal here. Well, you can buy them here, you just have sign a release form saying you're not going to use them here. Which is stupid.


Gravataras my mother would say, don't say shut up, say hush. She hated the words shut up.

g/f said those exact words to yakky twenty-somethings at the guggenheim grotto show the other night.

they were scandalized, but got the hell out of the seats next to us.

g/f is somewhat over six feet tall... tends to get folks' attention.


GravatarIsrael cannot control the waters through which aid can be delivered. And how else to gain attention to something nobody is paying attention to, but through stunts?
NTodd

tell that to the survivors of the the Liberty.


Gravatar"Okay, well on that note, I'm outta here."

Pullin' a Palin?


Gravatarloved roman candles when i was a little kid

There are idiots around here who will hold them and shoot them at each other. I guess they never heard they can back fire.

We used to have a hog roast every 4th at our farm and we'd have up to 60 people there, and everyone would bring fireworks.

One year, a three year old hellion stuck the fuse end of a roman candle in a candle sitting on the table in the garage. Fortunately, his dad saw and grabbed it and ran outside.

The next year, one of the adults who would bring about $300 worth of big ones, was doing his "show" and one of the big ones blew off the plywood he had affixed it to and shot into the crowd watching. No one was seriously hurt but a few people had little burns.

That was the last year we did it. I told my ex, enough was enough. Then we went to the lake and sat in the boat to watch a great show . . . Much safer.


GravatarI think I need a new brain. Or a vacation.
Gromit


i'd take the vacation. not sure what i'd do with a functioning brain anymore.


GravatarI'm on vacation in IL, and exhausted from running around after my 4 yo niece. Back at the hotel, surfing the free wifi in the lobby (bastards make you pay in your room) and sipping some wine. Just checking with to see what's up besides fireworks. The big show here was last night.


GravatarAh. Listening to Dark Star.


Gravatar
g/f said those exact words to yakky twenty-somethings at the guggenheim grotto show the other night.


I'm guilty of doing the same thing! I have a sister who talks too much, maybe that's why I do it.


GravatarAlso, the guy is hot.
Echidne | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 10:23 pm |


I didn't think the guy was that hot, but I loved the staging on the video. Fun.


GravatarC'mon Gromit, keep up!


GravatarIsrael cannot control the waters through which aid can be delivered. And how else to gain attention to something nobody is paying attention to, but through stunts?
NTodd

tell that to the survivors of the the Liberty.
1Watt, Hermit |


Hi, this is 2009.

Oslo says Israel can control Gazan waters. Yet if the international community seriously believes that allows for aid to be delivered, then the question stands: how can Israel control that area to the west of Gaza?


GravatarFireworks are legal in WA, which is why I didn't want to be there this weekend. My neighborhood sounds like a war zone. I'd much rather see a professional show. Much cooler and had an actual ending.


Gravatara few years back I was living in a quiet little apartment complex in the far burbs, and one quiet summer morning as I was sitting on my balcony listening to the birdies, two teen boys drove up in their beater car, got out, and started shooting off bottle rockets. Well, I went ballistic myself. I stood up on my balcony and screamed at those boys. "How dare you bring your noisemakers out here to where people live, where people are trying to enjoy the morning, how stupid and inconsiderate are you,  you just get right back in your car and take your noisemakers out someplace where no one can hear you!!" And damn me if they didn't hang their heads, not even look at the crazy lady in her housecoat screaming on her balcony, and pack up into their beater car and go away.

I was proud of myself. My neighbors thought it was hilarious.


GravatarName and gravatar stealing doesn't feel very good, does it?


Gravatar'Well, they're attempting to control everything'

I always chant for the inveterate control freaks of the world to learn to humbly control themselves first, in the name of the people.


GravatarFormula 1 chief -- Hitler got things done

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle6633340.ece


GravatarHi, NTodd. How are you this evening?


GravatarI'm guilty of doing the same thing! I have a sister who talks too much, maybe that's why I do it.
Vicki


vicki, there was a large group of friends who straggled in throughout the opening act and we tolerated the disruption for awhile, but a couple of songs into gg's set it became obvious that the girls sitting next to us didn't give a shit about the show and had no intention of giving any consideration to the performers or anyone near them.

so they got nuked, more or less.



Gravatarloved roman candles when i was a little kid

I liked those too, because they were like the rockets in cartoons. Never lit one myself though. I stayed way back when the big kids were lighting those up.


GravatarThat's hilarious strawhat. The only thing that would make that story better is if you had teenage daughters who witnessed it and were mortified.


GravatarStrawhat, good for you! Sometimes a little old fashioned shaming is exactly what people need. I wish you were my neighbor.


GravatarEvening, folks.

My neighbors have apparently decided to reenact the Battle of Hue. Some guy just set off what had to be at least 2 large bricks of black cats.
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Gravatar"Name and gravatar stealing doesn't feel very good, does it?"

I wouldn't know


GravatarI am fucking bored out of my mind.


GravatarMy neighbors have apparently decided to reenact the Battle of Hue.

khe sanh, bitches!!


Gravatarand the dog ate another stick of butter.


GravatarI am fucking bored out of my mind.
ms fahrenheit


kumquat?


GravatarGrand Rapids fireworks starting just now...

I might go outside and peek for a few minutes (it's LIVE on PBS, too).


GravatarI liked those too, because they were like the rockets in cartoons. Never lit one myself though. I stayed way back when the big kids were lighting those up.
Libby Spencer


The only good ones we ever had as kids were 'cherry bombs' and fake
'M-80s".
.


GravatarEvening, folks.

My neighbors have apparently decided to reenact the Battle of Hue. Some guy just set off what had to be at least 2 large bricks of black cats.
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Fielding Mellish | 07.04.09 - 10:33 pm |


A small nuke would take of that problematic neighbor.


Gravatarand the dog ate another stick of butter.
ms fahrenheit


Nice shiny coat for the next week or two?
.


Gravatarkumquat salsa?


GravatarChicago had its fireworks last night, but the nearby larger burb has its tonight. It's been chilly & rainy all day, and the spouse of the house is catching a cold, so we got a pizza & watched a movie instead of going out to the fireworks.


Gravatarkumquat?
stoat |

*snort*


GravatarTOW! We are well, thanks. Hope shit's good in your neck of the proverbial woods. Can't believe it's been so long since our last Obama party...


Gravatar*snort*
ms fahrenheit


i had no idea you spoke finnish.


GravatarI am fucking bored out of my mind.
ms fahrenheit


Book, bar, walk, bath, vibrator, or any combination of the above.


GravatarNice shiny coat for the next week or two?
.
Agent Orange |



GravatarDayton's fireworks were last night, and for the first time in years I got to see them. The park 3 blocks from me is a really good site to watch them from. Even tried to take some pics.

Much better when the pros handle it, than if half your neighbors try it.


GravatarSo I'm going to go upstairs & sew some more. I'm making a quilt for my pal, to help keep her warm during the coming experience with the surgeons & oncologists & stuff. And I'd like to get it done, so I'm off to make big squares out of little ones.

Mwah.


GravatarBook, bar, walk, bath, vibrator, or any combination of the above.
Gromi


bath and vibrator probably not such a good idea.


GravatarI'm not going to a bar and I don't have a vibrator, but thanks for the ideas.


GravatarMy dad had a bald spot as a result of a roman candle burn when he was a kid. Kinda turned me off to fireworks.


Gravatarvibrator and bath could be stimulating.

shocking, even.


GravatarI'm hearing quite a few more explosive fireworks this year. Don't know if it's the new neighborhood, if the city removed the ban they had on them, or if it's some kind of weird political reaction. Teabagging with fireworks could be a real Darwin fest.
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GravatarI'm making a quilt for my pal, to help keep her warm during the coming experience with the surgeons & oncologists & stuff.

*mwah*


GravatarMuch better when the pros handle it, than if half your neighbors try it.
Buckeye ... |


It's easy. Use a tripod, open the shutter BEFORE the explosion and almost any exposure (seconds) will work.
.


Gravatar"My dad had a bald spot as a result of a roman candle burn when he was a kid."

yeah but he had a story he could tell for years.


GravatarNTodd, I know! I showed my relatives the pics I took at the Obama rally and the close ones (kind of) of the Obama family walking to the stage. They were quite impressed.

I miss all of you. You'd think ErinPDX and her husband and I would get together more often, but it rarely happens. Actually, she invited me to her family's celebrations today, but I'm in Illinois, so that didn't work out.


GravatarDriving home just now from hearing some real live music, I saw two little fawns standing in the middle of the road, shocked and awed by the fireworks. I stopped and revved my engine till they hopped away. I hate the 4th of July.

Peace.


Gravatar"I'm hearing quite a few more explosive fireworks this year. "

i saw more for sale this year


GravatarGod, I just went outside to see the fireworks...the trees have grown so much they're barely visible.

But the neighborhood is caked with a layer of smoke, with the scent of bursting fireworks penetrating the air.

Too many neighbors doing too many fireworks, close proximity to the largest display of fireworks in a 3 million population area, and poor Puckadoodle Dandy is howling.


GravatarI don't have a vibrator, but thanks for the ideas.
ms fahrenheit


Oh my! You need to remedy that right away! It is a good way to chase those doldrums away, ms. f!

The book and the bath sound mighty good, too!

You could come over here and help me grade these fucking essays . . .


GravatarBook, bar, walk, bath, vibrator, or any combination of the above.
Gromi

bath and vibrator probably not such a good idea.
stoat | 07.04.09 - 10:39 pm | #


Mm, I think they make waterproof ones.


GravatarWhen I took my mom to the oncologist, I was very moved by the home made quilts and afghans that people had, by the patients, and by the friends who came to keep the patients company while they got their treatments. There are a lot of good people out there, but since they're not into self-promotion, you never hear about them.


GravatarMy neighbors have apparently decided to reenact the Battle of Hue.

khe sanh, bitches!!


Ia Drang is the best, fuckers.


GravatarWashington Post -- we smoked lobbyist money but we didn't inhale

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...9070402253.html


GravatarNorth Korea fires missiles in 4th of July salvo

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea launched seven ballistic missiles Saturday into waters off its east coast in a show of military firepower that defied U.N. resolutions and drew global expressions of condemnation and concern.


GravatarMy dad had a bald spot as a result of a roman candle burn when he was a kid. Kinda turned me off to fireworks.
Gromit |


In junior high a friend blew off the 3 middle fingers of one hand. He only had a thumb and little finger left. Needless to say we hence forth called him
'the claw'.
.


GravatarSpeedy, that was most kind of you.


GravatarMm, I think they make waterproof ones.
Buckeye


do tell.


GravatarI'm not going to a bar and I don't have a vibrator, but thanks for the ideas.
ms fahrenheit

Glass of wine and a movie?


GravatarThe city of Lincoln NE did their municipal display last night so it wouldn't interfere with Larry the Cable Guy's 4th of July Hoedown at the football stadium. Apparently the performance will be taped and distributed to mouth-breathing nincompoops.

*facepalm*
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GravatarYou could come over here and help me grade these fucking essays . . .
Integral ♠ Lit | 07.04.09 - 10:42 pm

No fucking thank-you. Yuk.


GravatarMuch better when the pros handle it, than if half your neighbors try it.
Buckeye ...


That's what she said . . .


GravatarIll-i-noise isn't close to Orygun?


GravatarMr Buzzy gets some use at our house.


GravatarThere are a lot of good people out there, but since they're not into self-promotion, you never hear about them.
Gromit


what gromit said. in spades.


GravatarMuch better when the pros handle it, than if half your neighbors try it.
Buckeye ... |

It's easy. Use a tripod, open the shutter BEFORE the explosion and almost any exposure (seconds) will work.
.
Agent Orange | 07.04.09 - 10:40 pm | #


I thought I brought two tripods with me when I moved-a big ass one and a more 'normal' one. Can't find the normal one. So I used my knee, and the 'fireworks' setting. And sometimes I went for the swirling effect. Not all of them were crappy photos.


GravatarMm, I think they make waterproof ones.
Buckeye


Why, yes they do. . .


GravatarGlass of wine and a movie?
Duane V, Locutus |

Waiting up for my daughter, then maybe glass of wine and a book. [shrugs]


GravatarResults 1 - 10 of about 435,000 for waterproof vibrator. (0.39 seconds)


GravatarTeabagging with fireworks could be a real Darwin fest.

I knew there had to be an upside to all this mess!


GravatarThe noise has been going on for an hour or more here.


GravatarIll-i-noise isn't close to Orygun?

Should be!


GravatarResults 1 - 10 of about 435,000 for waterproof vibrator. (0.39 seconds)
Gromit


My friend just showed me the package hers came in on Friday.

It spins in every which way and has more bells and whistles than a refrigerator.


GravatarResults 1 - 10 of about 435,000 for waterproof vibrator. (0.39 seconds)
Gromit | 07.04.09 - 10:45 pm | #

You are going to get some interesting ads.


GravatarThe gun was found near the woman.


GravatarMuch better when the pros handle it, than if half your neighbors try it.
Buckeye ...

That's what she said . . .
Integral ♠ Lit | 07.04.09 - 10:44 pm | #


I can understand sparklers, and even the noisemakers (though I hate them). But actual fireworks, leave that to the professionals. Setting your neighbor's house on fire, or blowing off your fingers isn't really worth it.


Gravatarこんにちは。
よろしくお願いいたします。


GravatarFielding Mellish

Hey, are you in Lincoln? I love love love that town. When I was doing the coursework for my doctorate (95 - 96), I rented a room there and stayed two nights a week.

I fell in love with it. There was a great little Italian place down in the Haymarket that is gone now, but they had the best seafood marinara.

I welcome any reason to go there. I'm a short 3 hours away and go to Omaha fairly frequently.


GravatarThe woman shot McNair multiple times.

She had one shot to the head.


GravatarThe woman shot McNair multiple times.

She had one shot to the head.
Penguin Fan


See what batshit insane women do to their men who go to Hawaii with other women?


Gravatareverybody's read the taibbi article about goldman/sachs, right?

happy fucking fourth of july.

it's a "must read," but it will make your temples throb and not in a nice way.


GravatarMs Moose to sue bloggers and NYT

"To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as 'fact' that Governor Palin resigned because she is 'under federal investigation' for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation," Van Flein said in a statement. "This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ us_pa...GFsaW5saW5rc3Jl


GravatarPenguin Fan


You were right about Public Enemies, and it kind of creeps me out.


GravatarI thought they said they thought at first it was murder/suicide, but they changed it to a double homicide?


Gravatareverybody's read the taibbi article about goldman/sachs, right?

happy fucking fourth of july.

it's a "must read," but it will make your temples throb and not in a nice way.


I'm on vacation so I won't read it yet. Instead, I'm taking advantage of the noise to sing aloud. Very aloud.


GravatarSee what batshit insane women do to their men who go to Hawaii with other women?
Vicki


The 1st Dude looked pretty nervous at the mistake by the lake yesterday.


GravatarResults 1 - 10 of about 435,000 for waterproof vibrator. (0.39 seconds)
Gromit

My friend just showed me the package hers came in on Friday.

It spins in every which way and has more bells and whistles than a refrigerator.
Vicki | 07.04.09 - 10:47 pm | #


Does it synch with her mp3 player?


GravatarThe woman was arrested the night before for DUI


GravatarWow. Murder - suicide. Fucked up..


GravatarIt spins in every which way and has more bells and whistles than a refrigerator.

Does it have an ice dispensing door?


GravatarSee what batshit insane women do to their men who go to Hawaii with other women?
Vicki


Violence never solved anything.


GravatarMy friend just showed me the package hers came in on Friday.

It spins in every which way and has more bells and whistles than a refrigerator.
Vick


i am such a naif.


GravatarDoes it synch with her mp3 player?
Buckeye ...


Ha!

Can you imagine vibrating yourself to Eddie Van Halen on "Beat It?"


GravatarDoes it synch with her mp3 player?
Buckeye ...

She can probably plug her pc and stereo into it too.. Make great home movies, then watch 'em on her new high def teevee.


GravatarThe woman's last name sounds like Cassini.


GravatarWow. Murder - suicide. Fucked up..

Of course. But these are not so uncommon. There was the professional wrestle recently, for instance.


GravatarThe 1st Dude looked pretty nervous at the mistake by the lake yesterday.

I noticed that too. Wonder how he's involved. Did I read that contrary to her remarks (she lied, in other words - shocker) the family didn't know she was going to resign, only not run for another term?


Gravatarこんにちは。
よろしくお願いいたします。
プロミӟ


:olo: - good one!


GravatarMan...it's louder than World War II out there.


GravatarIL: born and raised in Lincoln.

Returned after years in the Army and such, wasn't around in the 90s. The Haymarket is still fun, and they have a Farmer's Market on Saturdays.

Nice city, family is here.
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GravatarwrestleR


Gravatarhappy vay-kay, echidne.


GravatarViolence never solved anything.
Penguin Fan


[hangs head in shame]

I'm sorry to offend. You're being serious.


GravatarThey seem to have run out of fireworks here. It's getting quieter.


GravatarI had a lady friend in AR. that was so enamored with Mr. Buzzy, that anytime she heard a similar sound, her eyes glazed over for a couple of seconds.


GravatarKazemi


GravatarCan you imagine vibrating yourself to Eddie Van Halen on "Beat It?"
Vicki

I think any of Flea's basslines would be popular..


GravatarDoes it synch with her mp3 player?
Buckeye ...


How about CSN's "Cathedral" - I've always thought. . . ooops, tmi.


Gravatar"The city of Lincoln NE did their municipal display last night so it wouldn't interfere with Larry the Cable Guy's 4th of July Hoedown at the football stadium. Apparently the performance will be taped and distributed to mouth-breathing nincompoops."

Isn't that guy a performance artist?


GravatarPolice have confirmed the female victim is Sahel Kazemi, 20.


GravatarIf it ain't drugs, it's sex.
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Gravatarhappy vay-kay, echidne.

Ta! It's just for the weekend. I'm having a real one in August. Going back to refresh my snorts.


Gravatar"How about CSN's "Cathedral" - I've always thought. . . ooops, tmi."

i find this oddly disturbing...


GravatarI noticed that too. Wonder how he's involved.

He was instrumental in the scandal that's brewing up in Wasilla, there.

When its outing comes, those people will be facing time as criminals, also.


GravatarSee what batshit insane women do to their men who go to Hawaii with other women?
Vicki


[chuckles, but takes three steps backwards]


GravatarDamn slanties!


Gravatar"Police have confirmed the female victim is Sahel Kazemi, 20."

Nookie on the side. Dangereux...


GravatarThe woman's last name sounds like Cassini.

Like the probe?


GravatarDoes it synch with her mp3 player?
Buckeye ...

Ha!

Can you imagine vibrating yourself to Eddie Van Halen on "Beat It?"
Vicki | 07.04.09 - 10:52 pm | #


Probably easier than to Yanni.

http://www.ohmibod.com/


GravatarNothing good happens after 2 AM


GravatarOh my God, they're doing the finale here, and my house is rocking (so don't come a-knocking).

21 minutes of the big bang theory enacted less than a mile from where I live.


Gravatar"Nothing good happens after 2 AM"

Unless the bar closes at 3...


GravatarThe woman's last name sounds like Cassini.

Like the probe?
NTodd,שלו |


Probe? Saturn? Closer to Mr. Buzzy methinks.
.


Gravatar[chuckles, but takes three steps backwards]
Gromit




However, think about it...he is not dead, so I ain't batshit insane.


GravatarI think any of Flea's basslines would be popular..
Duane V, Locutus


Tool. works on several levels.
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GravatarI don't have a vibrator... Much better when the pros handle it.... It spins in every which way and has more bells and whistles than a refrigerator. I can understand sparklers, and even the noisemakers (though I hate them). But... leave that to the professionals. Setting your neighbor's house on fire, or blowing off your fingers isn't really worth it.... The neighborhood is caked with a layer of smoke, with the scent of bursting fireworks penetrating the air. I welcome any reason to go there. I'm a short 3 hours away and go to Omaha fairly frequently.... It will make your temples throb and not in a nice way.

I'm way behind but I'm trying to catch up.


GravatarAnyone familiar with the career of McNair knows he was hard to bring down.

This girl apparently had all the weapons.


Gravatartaibbi:

The new carbon-credit market is a virtual repeat of the commodities-market casino that's been kind to Goldman, except it has one delicious new wrinkle: If the plan goes forward as expected, the rise in prices will be government-mandated. Goldman won't even have to rig the game. It will be rigged in advance.

Here's how it works: If the bill passes; there will be limits for coal plants, utilities, natural-gas distributors and numerous other industries on the amount of carbon emissions (a.k.a. greenhouse gases) they can produce per year. If the companies go over their allotment, they will be able to buy "allocations" or credits from other companies that have managed to produce fewer emissions. President Obama conservatively estimates that about $646 billions worth of carbon credits will be auctioned in the first seven years; one of his top economic aides speculates that the real number might be twice or even three times that amount.

The feature of this plan that has special appeal to speculators is that the "cap" on carbon will be continually lowered by the government, which means that carbon credits will become more and more scarce with each passing year. Which means that this is a brand-new commodities market where the main commodity to be traded is guaranteed to rise in price over time. The volume of this new market will be upwards of a trillion dollars annually; for comparison's sake, the annual combined revenues of an electricity suppliers in the U.S. total $320 billion.

Goldman wants this bill.
there is much much more at the link.


Gravatar"
I'm way behind but I'm trying to catch up."

brilliant free verse


GravatarI'm way behind but I'm trying to catch up.
Speedy


And ignore the grav stealing.
.


Gravatari find this oddly disturbing...
Uncle Blodge, MTC


It starts out kind of slow and easy, then builds and builds and then drops back . . .

I think you get my drift. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=U...feature=related


GravatarCan you imagine vibrating yourself to Eddie Van Halen on "Beat It?"
Vicki

I think any of Flea's basslines would be popular..
Duane V, Locutus | 07.04.09 - 10:53 pm


Primus as well.


GravatarI'm way behind but I'm trying to catch up.
Speedy




bravo! a tour de force!


GravatarPenguin Fan,

Why don't you offer to be the prosecutor for the case?


GravatarIsn't that guy a performance artist?
fred


If he goes with the red suspenders, no shirt, and cornhead hat look i am just gonna die.

Hard enough being a Husker fan already.
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GravatarYou know, there was a guy killed on June 5. Father of 2, had another kid on the way.

Anybody remember his name?


GravatarExceedingly quiet in the Eastex tonight. Few M80s, couple shotgun shells over the last hour. Not a patch on previous years. Strange...


GravatarIf it ain't drugs, it's sex.
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QuentinCompson


Usually, both.


GravatarWhy don't you offer to be the prosecutor for the case?
Vicki


Um. The perp is dead.

Cops are not looking for anyone else.


GravatarPrimus as well.

PRIMUS SUCKS, PRIMUS SUCKS!


GravatarOh my God, they're doing the finale here, and my house is rocking (so don't come a-knocking).

21 minutes of the big bang theory enacted less than a mile from where I live.
Vicki | 07.04.09 - 10:56 pm | #


Our fireworks display is only a mile, luckily it was only about 15 minutes long. And the finale wasn't much.


GravatarSpeedy, nice montage!


GravatarAt approximately 4:15 on the morning of 5.7.09 more than 100 Israeli Soldiers invaded Belin Village. Many of them were masked and all carried automatic weapons. They attacked several houses and arrested Oda Rebhe Abu Rahma, 20, and Mahmoud Issa Yassein, 17. Upon request the soldiers would not tell their families where they were taking them or the name of an officer in command. Palestinian and international presence questioned the soldiers and dearrested several people who were documenting the kidnappings. This is the third week of night raids in Bilin village. Israeli soldier have conducted night raids almost every night and have arrested seven village youth during this period.

Unlike McNair's case, these people don't make millions of dollars, but are kidnapped and murdered with billions of ours...


Gravatar"Hard enough being a Husker fan already."

That's some crazy Big Red cult action on Saturday in Lincoln. Grow 'em big there.


GravatarMetro Police just had a press conference. Mcnair was shot multiple times, the woman Ms. Kazini was shot once in the head. A gun was found next to Ms. Kazini. The Cadillac Ms. Kazini drove was registered to both her and Mcnair. Their relationship was described as "friends".

Thurs night Ms. Kazini was pulled over for speeding and arrested for DUI (thought to be drugs, not alcohol). Mcnair was a a passenger, although he was found not to be in violation and was allowed to leave by taxi.

Ms. Kazini worked at Dave and Buster's in Opry Mills and lived in an apt. on Bell Rd


GravatarGraham Nash is hot. Also. Thanks for the linkee.

I saw him four years ago tonight at Muskegon Summer Celebration. With Crosby and Stills.


GravatarPrimus as well.

PRIMUS SUCKS, PRIMUS SUCKS!
NTodd,שלו |


Boom buddi boom buddi bup!
Boom buddi boom buddi bup!
Boom buddi boom buddi bup!
Boom buddi boom buddi bup!
.


Gravatarkillers


Gravatar"I think you get my drift. . ."

yes but you know -

i imagine pictures with music...

and they were not those images...

and now


GravatarOur "professional" show starts in about 15 minutes. It's about 6 blocks away. I think the dog and I will go and watch. He doesn't like this but would rather be next to me than left in the house.


Gravatar"Ms. Kazini worked at Dave and Buster's"

Sad...


GravatarSo Fox speculates that MJ is a cover story to distract us from cap and trade...the overall concept isn't so far-fetched, is it? Media feeds us consumerist death stories whilst other nameless people have their lives actively destroyed with our dollars far, far away...?


GravatarTommy the Cat is my name, and I say unto thee...


Gravatar"
Anybody remember his name?"

no, sorry


GravatarOur fireworks display is only a mile, luckily it was only about 15 minutes long. And the finale wasn't much.
Buckeye ...


Grand Rapids always has a huge display.

It's cool, but that's one of the things about living in an urban neighborhood...

The traffic is just starting to flow. It'll be madness here for at least an hour...right past my house.


GravatarNo problem Vicki! This is one of my all-time favorites. A local band that I'm pretty good friends with does an excellent cover of this.

And yes, he's hot - but I'm still going to have to fight you for Jimmy Smits.


GravatarSo Fox speculates that MJ is a cover story to distract us from cap and trade...the overall concept isn't so far-fetched, is it? Media feeds us consumerist death stories whilst other nameless people have their lives actively destroyed with our dollars far, far away...?


Actually, that's pretty fucking close to my theory. It's not far-fetched, at all.


GravatarNight, bats.


GravatarI'm sure that Art Of Noise's cover of "Peter Gunn" will calm my nerves....

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGUH!!


GravatarNight, bats.
Buckeye


G'night!
.


Gravatar"
Anybody remember his name?"

no, sorry
Uncle Blodge, MTC | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 11:04 pm


bassem (I'm not going to cheat by going to NTodd's site)?


GravatarAnybody remember his name?"

no, sorry


Of course not! Nobody reported it here. He was just a Palestinian, nonviolently protest the Wall that divides his land. He died in Na'alin the day of our orientation.


Gravatar"So Fox speculates that MJ is a cover story to distract us from cap and trade..."

Al Gore murdered Michael Jackson with his beard?


GravatarUncle Blodge, sorry for the eyeworm. Does the link help at all?


GravatarFemme Fatale.


GravatarAl Gore murdered Michael Jackson with his beard?
fred


Al is so much more powerful than that now.


GravatarG'night Buckeye!

Sweet dreams!


GravatarI'm sure that Art Of Noise's cover of "Peter Gunn" will calm my nerves....

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGUH!!
AndyG | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 11:06 pm |


Think of Yanni. And Raffi. And Barney the dinosaur.


GravatarMy Inky headed for the basement at the sound of the first M-80.

Just went to check on him, and he was pawing at his catnip mouse, mumbling something about "full metal jacket."
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Gravatar50 ways to leave your lover.....


GravatarG'night Buckeye!

Sweet dreams!
Integral ♠ Lit | 07.04.09 - 11:08 pm | #


Enjoy the fireworks-and make sure the doggie doesn't get too freaked by them.


GravatarWell out for a bit. Gonna go watch the big shew!


GravatarWe had a water balloon re-enactment of the Revolutionary War downtown today.

The Red Coats vs. The Blue Coats.


Gravatarbassem (I'm not going to cheat by going to NTodd's site)?

Good guess, and thank you. Bassem was killed in Bil'in in April. He was 29, young, vibrant.

The other guy was Yusuf Srour, age 36.


Gravatar"Al is so much more powerful than that now."

ZOMG! He's Al Vader!


GravatarThat was one crazy woman.


Gravatar"Does the link help at all?"

i love the song, actually


Gravatar"Al is so much more powerful than that now."

ZOMG! He's Al Vader!


Al-bi Wan Kenobi.


Gravatarbassem (I'm not going to cheat by going to NTodd's site)?

Good guess, and thank you. Bassem was killed in Bil'in in April. He was 29, young, vibrant.

The other guy was Yusuf Srour, age 36.
NTodd,שלו | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 11:10 pm | #


Bassem was the one who always seemed to be smiling?


GravatarNTodd,שלו |

I don't know how you tolerate us. Seriously.

You are working your ass off for change...you must have a very solid sense of the word "incremental."


Gravatarroof!


Gravatar"Al-bi Wan Kenobi."

That's Sarah!


GravatarAlright, I'm really going to bed.

Though there are still a couple of morons still setting of fire works.


GravatarZOMG! He's Al Vader!
fred


"I find your lack of new dance moves... disturbing."
-


GravatarI wonder if Atrios is going to Nutroots Nation this year?


GravatarThis has been a (particularly) bad year for gang violence here in town, especially amongst the Hmong and Somali communities. It's hard hearing about early 20-somethings getting gunned down every weekend.


GravatarBassem was the one who always seemed to be smiling?

Yes, and his name means 'Smile'. Truly a martyr for peace.


Gravatar"I find your lack of new dance moves... disturbing."


Al Capone?


GravatarI wonder if Atrios is going to Nutroots Nation this year?

I hope he gives Nancy Pelosi a standing ovation...


Gravatar...eh, should probably say "every other weekend". Damn hyperbole.


GravatarThough there are still a couple of morons still setting of fire works.
Buckeye ...


I know, right? You aren't going to bed yet, dear.

And the traffic here on Lake Michigan Drive is at a crawl...everyone leaves GR down my street if they're headed west.


GravatarI hope he gives Nancy Pelosi a standing ovation...
NTodd,שלו | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 11:14 pm | #

Tonight seems to be the night to pick scabs.


GravatarHoly crap. I'm just now catching on to the fact that the McNair is former NFL quarterback Steve McNair. Shit, he was a cool guy. I can't believe he's dead.


GravatarFor Gomez

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=t...player_embedded


Gravatarthe neighbor behind the hill is doing fireworks, first time since I've been here. Too many trees between us to see or hear much.
Thumper assumed the position anyway.


GravatarTonight seems to be the night to pick scabs.

I always do. When I get scurvy, I am so fucked.


GravatarScabs are jerks.


GravatarThank you Snake Goddess


Gravatar"I always do."

meanie


GravatarThe only way you know if scabs are haling is to pick them.


GravatarScabs are jerks.
AndyG

I would never cross a picket line. (Just so you know)


GravatarScabs are jerks.

Fucking unions always want to keep us down.


GravatarI usually sit outside at night in my garden. In the dark. And take a couple of hits off of my pipe if I'm fortunate enough to have a little gange.

However, with the traffic, both in car and on foot, I'm fucked for at least an hour.

Woe. is. ME!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarAnd now, there is an accident on the corner.

This is going to be a LONG night.


GravatarSo Fox speculates that MJ is a cover story to distract us from cap and trade...- NTodd,שלו

so they shall heretofore cease all coverage? ... cool, that's integrity


GravatarWow, I'd forgotten about the concentration camp episode of Twilight Zone - prety intense for its time.


Gravatar75 years ago, there were at least three general strikes in the US. Minneapolis had one of them.


GravatarI hope he gives Nancy Pelosi a standing ovation...
NTodd,שלו


Is that what we're calling a wedgie now? As I said, I'm sadly unaware of all internet traditions...


Gravatar"general" = city-wide, not general in the national sense. Shoulda clarified.


Gravatarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Hom...omestead_Strike

Homestead.


GravatarWell it's getting to be that time of night when gin's returns diminish. If I say anything offensive, please tell me to back away from the computer and go for a drive. Thx in advance.


GravatarAnd now, there is an accident on the corner.

We saw a "big" accident on the corner of Fletcher Road and Swamp Road the other morning. Two pickups had smashed into each other, apparently one of them taking a turn too quickly in the rain, ending up on somebody's b-ball court. A few hours later, the teenaged boy of the house was out shooting hoops, with only tire marks in the lawn to remind us what had happened.

Brought out the sheriff and a state trooper, along with an EMT and an ambulance. Excitement near the cornfield!


Gravatar THE GIRL IN THE PINK DRESS IS THE DEAD WOMAN


GravatarA dedicated Teamsters union worker was attending a convention in Las Vegas and decided to check out the local brothels. When he got to the first one, he asked the Madam, "Is this a union house?"

"No," she replied, "I'm sorry it isn't."

"Well, if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?"

"The house gets $80 and the girls get $20," she answered

Offended at such unfair dealings, the union man stomped off down the street in search of a more equitable, hopefully unionized shop. His search continued until finally he reached a brothel where the Madam responded, "Why yes sir, this is a union house. We observe all union rules"

The man asked, "And if I pay you $100, what cut do the girls get?" "The girls get $80 and the house gets $20."

"That's more like it!" the union man said.

He handed the Madam $100, looked around the room, and pointed to a stunningly attractive blonde.

"I'd like her," he said.

"I'm sure you would, sir," said the Madam. Then she gestured to a 92-year old woman in the corner, "but Ethel here has 67 years seniority and according to union rules, she's next."


GravatarPenguin Fan,

Just curious: What was McNair doing with another woman when he had a wife named Mechelle and two sons?


GravatarFucking unions always want to keep us down. - NTodd,שלו

their members make $300/hr and Japanese workers have to pay to build cars


GravatarJust curious: What was McNair doing with another woman when he had a wife named Mechelle and two sons?
Vicki


Good question.


GravatarHomestead.

I've got a great book about Homestead called "The River Ran Red".

/curses Alexander Berkman's name


Gravatar"Just curious: What was McNair doing with another woman when he had a wife named Mechelle and two sons?"

investment counseling?


GravatarTraffic is now completely at a stop, NTodd. They're waiting for the cops to show up, which will be difficult for them to do, given that the drive is blocked with cars.


Gravatar"general" = city-wide, not general in the national sense. Shoulda clarified.

Well, general can mean "across union, industry and/or social boundaries" not necessarily nationwide. Be nice if labor today could muster something like that in support of single-payer, or at least public option...


Gravatar"Good question."

Easy answer...


GravatarEvening, all

Well, is there a Pulitzer in Taibi's Future? (I certainly think there SHOULD be, eh?)


Gravatarinvestment counseling?
Uncle Blodge, MTC

Growth stocks?


GravatarMcNair must have met her while running his restaurant.


GravatarJust curious: What was McNair doing with another woman when he had a wife named Mechelle and two sons?

Planning a trip to Hawaii where they'd pray together before he decided to run for public office?


GravatarI spent the last hour giving my parrot scritches. Been awhile since she's let me scratch her for that long. What did I miss?


GravatarThe SC serial killer has now killed five people. Talking of killers.


Gravatartheir members make $300/hr and Japanese workers have to pay to build cars
focus, unrepresented


Holy crap, my winger buddy was right?!


GravatarI wonder how much all of these fireworks going off continually around the neighborhood cost?

There are some huge poppers, and some that are going well over 100 ft into the air.


GravatarRunning a restaurant is a great way to meet women


GravatarHere's the wrestler.

Chris Benoit.


GravatarJust curious: What was McNair doing with another woman when he had a wife named Mechelle and two sons?
Vicki


If his wife had spelled her name properly maybe he wouldn't have strayed.

Sorry.


GravatarRunning a restaurant is a great way to meet women
Penguin Fan




This reminds me of theatre of the absurd...


GravatarTaibbi warns of new rule change to benefit Goldman

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-...change-means- go

where's that change thingie?


GravatarIf his wife had spelled her name properly maybe he wouldn't have strayed.

Sorry.


That was the way it was spelled on MSNBC, I swear to the football spaghetti monster.


GravatarWomen that spell their name Mechelle tend to be hot.


GravatarThe wife did not kill McNair. The crazy POA did.


GravatarWell, general can mean "across union, industry and/or social boundaries" not necessarily nationwide. Be nice if labor today could muster something like that in support of single-payer, or at least public option...

Certainly...I was just clarifying from a historical perspective. The big three strikes in '34 were all lead by three specific industries (trucking, manufacturing, and long-shoring). One of our big pushes in Seattle in '99 was to stop work. We got the the Longshoreman in San Francisco to stop work in solidarity with what we were doing, but most people didn't go to work in Seattle proper because we just made it so damned hard to get around.

Oh, and we were able to shut down WTO talks in the short term, so objective kinda met.


GravatarTraffic moving again. People took the bang to the side street around the corner.

Smart peeps.


GravatarPlanning a trip to Hawaii where they'd pray together before he decided to run for public office?
NTodd,שלו


Hiking the Pu'u Huluhulu Trail?


GravatarWhat's POA?


GravatarWhat was McNair doing with another woman when he had a wife


Inflaming the minds of busy-body bloggers, as a cultural service.
-


GravatarPiece Of Ass


Gravatar"Just curious: What was McNair doing with another woman when he had a wife named Mechelle and two sons?"

investment counseling?


Gov Sanford is his spiritual advisor?


GravatarPiece Of Ass
ms fahrenheit


Oh, thanks. I'd never heard that. Or called that.


GravatarThe G8 summit in cartoon form

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle6638605.ece


Gravatar"During Independence Celebrations in Alaska, Palin Is Low Key"

Nice headline, NYT. When is that attention-whore ever "low key"?


GravatarIt must have been a piece of ass with one arm attached, though, as she could use a gun. Assuming that she did it.


GravatarOh, thanks. I'd never heard that. Or called that.
Vicki


What would you call someone that emptied a gun into her lover then popped herself in the head?


GravatarIt must have been a piece of ass with one arm attached, though, as she could use a gun. Assuming that she did it.
Echidne | Homepage | 07.04.09 - 11:38 pm | #


and a brain, heart, and soul, but that is the phrase. [sigh]


GravatarCrazy?


GravatarWhat would you call someone that emptied a gun into her lover then popped herself in the head?


Completely crazy?


GravatarWhat would you call someone that emptied a gun into her lover then popped herself in the head?

That crazy dead bitch.


GravatarThere are some huge poppers, and some that are going well over 100 ft into the air.
Vicki


Guy a couple tracts down from me used to put on quite a show on the 4th. Semi-pro looking display. Maybe it's gotten too expensive. Maybe the rednecks are just too depressed. For whatever reason, it's mighty quiet out there tonight.


Gravatar"People at the rally expressed outrage at the $787 billion economic stimulus plan passed earlier this year, saying the bill racked up a huge national debt that will be passed onto their grandchildren. They said President Obama's push for health-care overhaul is "socialism," and believe it would negatively affect the quality of care."

What a bunch of ignorant toons...


GravatarWhat would you call someone that emptied a gun into her lover then popped herself in the head?

If you go by crime statistics you'd call it a guy.


GravatarThat threw herself at a celebrity?


GravatarWe got the the Longshoreman in San Francisco to stop work in solidarity with what we were doing, but most people didn't go to work in Seattle proper because we just made it so damned hard to get around.


Fucking ILWU, always keeping us down.


GravatarI owe some virtual crazy Pepsis.


GravatarWhat would you call someone that emptied a gun into her lover then popped herself in the head?

Magic?
-


Gravatar"They're not running our government like we would run our own checkbooks. When I'm out of money, I stop spending the money."

Right, shithead, because your pathetic little checking account is the same as running the largest economy in the world.


GravatarShe was depressed by the negative press reaction to Palin's resignation?


GravatarYa know, if whoever didn't have a gun in that sad incident had had a gun, the tragedy might have been avoided.


GravatarMy newspaper had the Washington Post version of Palin's resignation on the front page and they made it sound like she was being mavericky, taking an unsual way to get to the supermarket or something .

Headline..."Sarah Palin, again, does it her way.."

That's one of putting it. "She's batshit crazy" would be another.


GravatarHe was getting ready to end the affair I bet.


GravatarThe world would be a better place if crazy killer suicides would save the first bullet for themselves instead of the last one.


GravatarGood guess, and thank you. Bassem was killed in Bil'in in April. He was 29, young, vibrant.

The other guy was Yusuf Srour, age 36.
NTodd,שלו

Palestinian protester killed during Na’alin rally

Posted on: June 5, 2009
Avi Issacharoff, Anshel Pfeffer & Reuters | Ha’aretz
5 June 2009

Palestinian officials reported on Friday that a Palestinians demonstrator had been killed during the weekly anti-separation fence rally near the West Bank town of Na’alin.
Palestinian medical officials said 36-year-old Yusuf Srour had been killed by Israeli forces.
Medics said Srour was hit in the chest by a live bullet and another protester was wounded when soldiers fired at protesters.
Srour died minutes later, Mohammed Shahwan, a doctor on the ambulance called to the scene, told Reuters.
An Israeli military spokesman said troops had opened fire when protesters threw stones at them in the village, but denied that the troops had used live ammunition. However, an IDF spokesman said, an investigation has been launched into the incident.

http://palsolidarity.org/2009/06/7042


Gravatar"If you go by crime statistics you'd call it a guy."

Speaking of statistics, I ran a regression, and the correlation coefficient of obesity rates and life expectancy for 24 developed countries is -0.39.


GravatarFucking ILWU, always keeping us down.

Much like their pals in the CAW, they're great at trying to organize different trades. They never fell into the craft-unionism trap.


GravatarWho can sleep? Sounds like a war zone, outside.


GravatarCorrect me if I have misread the situation.


GravatarWho can sleep? Sounds like a war zone, outside.

Jeffraham


Every now and then, I wish I had ear plugs...


GravatarSpeaking of statistics, I ran a regression, and the correlation coefficient of obesity rates and life expectancy for 24 developed countries is -0.39.

What did you control for in the regression? What's the p-value?


GravatarAP: More good news for Republicans!


GravatarYa know, if whoever didn't have a gun in that sad incident had had a gun, the tragedy might have been avoided.

Indeed, if you meet your lover with a loaded gun with the safety off, you have a better chance of returning fire if she (or he) gets upset by you breaking things off.


GravatarWho can sleep? Sounds like a war zone, outside.

A lot of one night stands.


Gravatar"She was depressed by the negative press reaction to Palin's resignation?"

No, no, no - you have it all wrong.

Al "Capone" Gore murdered Michael Jackson. This caused Sarah Palin so much despair that she decided to quit her job. This woman in Nashville was so elated to see Palin self-immolate, she picked up the nearest handgun and shot it in celebration several times.


Gravatar"I'm sure you would, sir," said the Madam. Then she gestured to a 92-year old woman in the corner, "but Ethel here has 67 years seniority and according to union rules, she's next."
fred


That's, um, wow, clever. No basis in reality, but that's never stopped the wingnuts yet...


GravatarWow what a show. I went out in my driveway and could see the professional show about 6 blocks over (not the ground stuff of course) and someone 2 blocks over put on almost as good a show. Dueling fireworks - it was awesome.

The dog went out with me, started to get nervous but wouldn't go back in the house without me, and within about a minute, he's running across the street barking at the closer ones, wagging his tail, and having a grand time protecting me!

I wonder how much all of these fireworks going off continually around the neighborhood cost?


I was thinking about the one a couple blocks over. He must have spent at least a couple grand on those. Apparently the economy hasn't hurt the fireworks aficionados around here.


Gravatarfred,

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GravatarHe was shot many times.

She was shot once in the head.

He was on the couch.

She was on the floor.

The gun was near her.

Any questions?


GravatarAl "Capone" Gore murdered Michael Jackson. This caused Sarah Palin so much despair that she decided to quit her job. This woman in Nashville was so elated to see Palin self-immolate, she picked up the nearest handgun and shot it in celebration several times.

Finally, all of the threads have been unified. I can finally sleep.


Gravatarfireworks after all. ate too much, but no goat.

I think it's really cool to get email from the President on the Fourth of July.


Gravatar"During Independence Celebrations in Alaska, Palin Is Low Key"

Nice headline, NYT. When is that attention-whore ever "low key"?
fred


I agree with Drum, that she grew tired of not being the belle of the ball anymore, and was going to go sit in the corner and eat worms for a while. Cinderella's coach has turned back into a pumpkin, and she hates meeces to peeces...


GravatarAny questions?
Penguin Fan


Did he have a big cock?


GravatarGaza girl killed in border clash

Gaza is struggling to recover from the recent conflict with Israel
A 17-year-old Palestinian girl has been killed in Gaza by Israeli fire.

After initial denials, Israeli army officials said the girl was killed by Israeli troops during a clash with Palestinian militants on Thursday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 8132274.stm


Gravatar5th Death Tied to South Carolina Killer
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: July 4, 2009
GAFFNEY, S.C. (AP) — A teenage girl who had been shot while helping her father in their family’s small furniture and appliance store died on Saturday, becoming the fifth victim of a suspected serial killer, the authorities said.

The girl, Abby Tyler, 15, died about 11:15 a.m. at a hospital in Spartanburg, the Cherokee County coroner, Dennis Fowler, said.

The girl was wounded and her father was killed on Thursday as they worked to close the store, the Tyler Home Center, near downtown Gaffney.

Sheriff Bill Blanton of Cherokee County said that investigators believed the killings were linked and that the search was on for a suspected male serial killer. An 83-year-old woman and her daughter were shot to death on Wednesday, and a 63-year-old peach farmer was found dead at his home a week ago.

The killings have alarmed residents, who canceled Independence Day holiday plans and armed themselves.

Sheriff Blanton warned people selling door to door to stop knocking, and he cautioned anyone who broke down on the county’s rural roads to wait instead of walking to a house for help because he worried “people are going to start shooting at shadows.”

Investigators have released a sketch of the suspect, saying he is in his 40s, with salt and pepper hair, about 6-foot-2, and roughly 200 pounds. They think he is driving a silver Ford Explorer.


Gravatar'mout. Peace.


Gravatar"What did you control for in the regression? What's the p-value?"

It was just a simple correlation of the two data sets.


GravatarYa know, if whoever didn't have a gun in that sad incident had had a gun, the tragedy might have been avoided.
Speedy


And vice versa.


GravatarNever fear, if Steve McNair is famous enough to register on Limbaugh's radar, he'll connect it all to Obama.

Four sons, a wife. A mother in Mississippi, I think...

The woman was 20 and had been arrested for a DUI a few days ago.


GravatarMuch like their pals in the CAW, they're great at trying to organize different trades. They never fell into the craft-unionism trap.

Thank fucking dog. We need more general organizing, not provincial bullshit.


GravatarEvery now and then, I wish I had ear plugs...

I do have some. I keep then for long convertible rides, because the wind noise makes me a little deaf when I arrive. I'm about to go rifling through my drawers to find them.


Gravatar"What did you control for in the regression? What's the p-value?"

It was just a simple correlation of the two data sets.


You can start that way, but then the obesity variable picks up any U.S. related other factors. I'd control for GNP and age distribution at least. Probably also some other stuff like gun laws and max speed allowed on the roads.


Gravatarif Steve McNair is famous enough to register on Limbaugh's radar,

Limbaugh, like Sarah Palin, is an incompetent, frustrated sportscaster. Of course he knows who Steve McNair is.


GravatarGrabbed a couple of beers and went down the ridge road and watched fireworks from about six little towns within 20 miles... kinda neat with the fireflies and full moon and the valleys starting to fog up just a touch... the flashes of firework colors and the dull thud of the explosions were joined by frogs crickets and the odd cow... good night to be alive.


Gravatar"That's, um, wow, clever. No basis in reality, but that's never stopped the wingnuts yet..."

Lighten up, Frances.


GravatarAny questions?

What was she wearing?


Gravatar"Republicans are well aware that the closer the Democrats get to 60, the more leverage GOP senators have as Congress struggles with those problems that have eluded solutions for decades."

Good to know.


GravatarUN's Richard Falk: IDF seizure of Gaza-bound ship is 'criminal'

By Reuters
A United Nations human rights investigator on Thursday called Israel's seizure of a ship carrying relief aid for the Gaza Strip "unlawful" and said its blockade of the territory constituted a "continuing crime against humanity".

Israeli authorities on Tuesday intercepted the vessel, which was also carrying 21 pro-Palestinian activists, and said it would not be permitted to enter Gaza coastal waters because of security risks in the area and its existing naval blockade.

Richard Falk, an American Jew and the United Nations special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said the move was part of Israel's "cruel blockade of the entire Palestinian population of Gaza" in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention prohibiting any form of collective punishment against "an occupied people".

Falk, who is an expert on international law, said Israel's two-year blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza restricted vital supplies such as food, medicine and fuel to "bare subsistence levels".

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...es/ 1097608.html


Gravatar"I'd control for GNP and age distribution at least."

That's why I restricted it to developed economies, even though I had data for places like Turkey and Mexico.


GravatarGood night. Leaving you with this because it's very beautiful

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=P...feature=related


GravatarJeevan, could you work on that "byline" loophole kiss-my-ascii is using?
Or is that a killfile problem?


GravatarThat sounds lovely, Nick. I feel the same way. The rain has all gone, along with the clouds and there's just a little chill in the air. Although my setting was as romantic as yours, the dueling fireworks displays, the beautiful weather, and my silly dog kind made it a really cool experience. Don't feel nearly as lonely as I did earlier in the day.

It is a good night to be alive.


GravatarThat's why I restricted it to developed economies, even though I had data for places like Turkey and Mexico.

I think there might be some multiple regression studies which look at that question. I might dig them up later to see what variables they use.


Gravatar"That's, um, wow, clever. No basis in reality, but that's never stopped the wingnuts yet..."

Lighten up, Frances.
fred


TTTThhhpppbbbttt...


GravatarG'night Echidne!

Sweet peaceful dreams!


Gravatar"TTTThhhpppbbbttt..."

Bill the Cat?


GravatarYa know, if whoever didn't have a gun in that sad incident had had a gun, the tragedy might have been avoided.

Nothing like a gunfight at an NFL star's house!


GravatarNick, wasn't as romantic as yours

Damn typos!


GravatarLimbaugh, like Sarah Palin, is an incompetent, frustrated sportscaster. Of course he knows who Steve McNair is.

I'm sure he knows who he is, but I don't know if he's famous enough for Rush to use him like a trampoline as he has with , say..Michael Jackson.

When Limbaugh made his moronic comments about black QBs in general, and Donovan McNabb, specifically, I remember McNair was asked for a comment. That must have been such a drag, every time some stupid white guy says something about a black QB,
the black QBs had to be quizzed.


Gravatar"Ya know, if whoever didn't have a gun in that sad incident had had a gun, the tragedy might have been avoided."

No, we'd just be reading a story about her slicing off his cock while he was sleeping, then her taking a bottle of sleeping pills.

Crazy is crazy.


GravatarNothing like a gunfight at an NFL star's house!

Mike Vick is in danger. His proby won't let him pack heat.


GravatarLimbaugh, like Sarah Palin, is an incompetent, frustrated sportscaster. Of course he knows who Steve McNair is.
theodoric of athens


He'll confuse him with McNabb, get halfway through a rant, realize his mistake, and have a seizure on the air...
[Puts down hash pipe, blinks], Whew!


Gravatarwell, it could have been *more* romantic than it was... everything could, though...


GravatarThat must have been such a drag, every time some stupid white guy says something about a black QB,
the black QBs had to be quizzed.


Surprizingly I never them ask the white QBs about it, and they would also have said the Limbaugh was full of shit.


GravatarVick probably can't have a guard dog either...


GravatarYeah but fred, you can still play football without a cock. Dude, you don't feel me, do you?


GravatarWell sure, but we can't have everything, right?


Gravatar"I'm sure you would, sir," said the Madam. Then she gestured to a 92-year old woman in the corner, "but Ethel here has 67 years seniority and according to union rules, she's next."
fred


OK, serious question: Are you just joking, and hence "Lighten up Frances," or are you anti-union?


GravatarDon't blame me: I voted for Bill and Opus.


GravatarVick probably can't have a guard dog either...



GravatarI never [heard] them ask white QBs abotu [Limbaugh's comment].


GravatarOkay, I thought the hooker union joke was funny and I'm in a union and wouldn't have it any other way. . .


Gravataryou can still play football without a cock.

Never take a steer to a bullfight.


GravatarI wonder where Milo Bloom is today...


GravatarIsn't it a bit odd for a serial killer to use a gun?


GravatarI'm surprized with the good female kickers in high schools that none of them has gone as far as the NFL. I think it's only a matter of time until we have a female field goal kicker in the NFL. Punter is another position that a woman could do well in.


GravatarPalin links resignation to 'higher calling'

If you get an Oscar for talking shit one day, Palin will be the first recipient

http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2009...-to- higher.html


GravatarYou'd think a spoon would be the weapon of-- oh, wait.

Never mind.


GravatarYou'd think a spoon would be the weapon of-- oh, wait.

I am ashamed to admit that I got this joke.


GravatarSurprizingly I never them ask the white QBs about it, and they would also have said the Limbaugh was full of shit.

Exactly. I listen to sports radio some because of the Titans and uniformly, commentators who knew about sports said Rush was a laughable, ignorant blowhard.

John McClain from the Houston Chronicle was particularly forceful.


GravatarIsn't it a bit odd for a serial killer to use a gun?
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person


I heard they found someone dead in a bathtub of Cheerios and suspect a cereal killed.


Gravatartheodoric: well, at least you didn't *make* the joke...


GravatarOkay, I thought the hooker union joke was funny and I'm in a union and wouldn't have it any other way. . .


Oh good, it wasn't just me. I thought it was a stitch.


GravatarCan Vick have a point guard?


Gravatarlet's leave it to Jonah Goldberg to explain, because he has a particular genius for distilling right wing stupid:

Thers smacks him tonight.

http://firedoglake.com/


GravatarI'm whoring this one for fred--Palin's resignation speech in verse
http://www.blackveils.com/palin0709.htm

Political operatives descended on Alaska, digging
for dirt. The ethics law I championed
became their weapon of choice. I've been accused of
frivolous ethics violations – holding a fish
in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it,
and answering reporters’ questions....


GravatarWatching 1776 on TCM. No wonder Nixon imposed on the producers to cut "Cool Considerate Men" from the film. Damning indictment of the conservative monied interests.


GravatarYou'd think a spoon would be the weapon of-- oh, wait.

I am ashamed to admit that I got this joke.
theodoric of athens


I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't at first. Then I read the Isn't it a bit odd for a serial killer to use a gun? again and slapped my forehead.

Good pun, Nick!


Gravatar"Can Vick have a point guard?"

NTodd has found the true explanation for Gov. Palin's resignation... she's going to head up Vick's security detail and protect him from irate moose, vengeful dogs and "PsOA"...


GravatarDammit, the worst thing about Quitty McQuitter is that she distracted from Mark Sanford. We could have mined that for comedy gold for at least a couple more weeks.


GravatarA Letter to Our Readers By Katharine Weymouth

pure bs!!


GravatarLooks like my kid went off the wagon.  Again.


GravatarCharlotte, NC -- A religious broadcaster is reportedly building a $4 million home at the same time his ministry has cut jobs and reset thermostats to save money in its new headquarters.

The Charlotte Observer reports that Inspiration Networks' CEO David Cerullo is building the 9,000-square-foot lakefront home in a gated community in South Carolina.

Meanwhile, the newspaper reports that the ministry is laying off workers and has frozen wages and stopped making contributions to employee retirement accounts.

Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley is investigating the finances of other religious broadcasters and told the newspaper that televangelists should not spend viewers' tax-exempt donations on extravagant lifestyles.

http://www.digtriad.com/news/wat...26777& catid=176


Because it ruins the image for family values freaks, methinks.
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GravatarSally: oh, no. Just a little or big-time?


GravatarOh Sallyh, I'm so sorry.

My son went to treatment last spring for drugs and alcohol and only stayed sober about 3 months. If you want to talk about it, I can give you my email. Let me know.


GravatarMmmmm, younnng Elizabeth Montgomery. And Charles Bronson.

I'd better concentrate.
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GravatarLooks like my kid went off the wagon. Again.

Whatever she's doing isn't working. Time to try something new.


GravatarIowa Sen. Charles Grassley is investigating the finances of other religious broadcasters and told the newspaper that televangelists should not spend viewers' tax-exempt donations on extravagant lifestyles.

The obvious solution for this is to remove the tax exemption for churches and start treating them like every other profit making business.


GravatarFrom the outset, we laid down firm parameters to ensure that these events would be consistent with The Post's values. If the events were to be sponsored by other companies, everything would be at arm's length -- sponsors would have no control over the content of the discussions, and no special access to our journalists.

sure.


GravatarQuentin: what are you watching?


GravatarMy brother has a recurring alcohol problem. Sadly, I just had to cut him loose and let him deal with it on hit own. He's actually doing better now, although the years of abuse have taken thier toll.


GravatarDammit, the worst thing about Quitty McQuitter is that she distracted from Mark Sanford. We could have mined that for comedy gold for at least a couple more weeks.
Mark B.--Buzzkiller |


Have faith. He's probably got another couple interviews in him...


GravatarThe scary part is Jonah Goldberg had a comment about Palin that made him sound about a million times saner than most of the NRO crowd. Faint praise, I know bit he admits she's scaring Republicans.



And even he tells her to shut up with the whining about the media. Not that frankly, of course. She's got a temper.


GravatarTwilight Zone.
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Gravatar Here's the flyer the WaPo put together for the dinner


Gravatar"Palin's resignation speech in verse"

Brings a tear to the eye... tear of laughter...


GravatarHelloooooo Everyone!

Happy 5th of July (here at least).
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GravatarI hate it when I'm grading papers and I come across one that appears to be plagiarized. Have to go to Turnitin.com and upload it there. Last semester failed 3 students right at the end who plagiarized. Damn.


GravatarWe could have mined that for comedy gold for at least a couple more weeks.

I doubt it. Michael Jackson more or less inoculated the GOP against Sanford.


GravatarH'lo Agent O: not sure where everybody went (with the exception of Quentin, I think he's concentrating on Elizabeth Montgomery).


GravatarI went to the Netflix website yesterday,and put my email in the free trial thing, but didn't click "next". Then I changed my mind, and killed the tab.
Today I got an email from Netflix, saying I should go back and complete my free trial request. Doubleyew tee eff?


GravatarAgent O, where the fuck have you been? We've been looking all over for you!

And we still have about 40 minutes here left. And my neighbors are using all of it . . . bang. boom. pchume!


GravatarTurnitin? That's a site that can tell you if it's plagarized?


GravatarAll of it from Republicans, kid...

http://media.kidk.com/images/ Rex...b_Tea_Party.jpg


GravatarH'lo Agent O: not sure where everybody went (with the exception of Quentin, I think he's concentrating on Elizabeth Montgomery).
nick carraway |


Hi. Wasn't it weird earlier that some pricks are now stealing nym AND gravatars? I guess it's happened before.
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GravatarYeah, it searches the Internet (all the "buy a paper" sites and other papers that have been run through the system. It has helped a lot, but I'm sure it doesn't get all of them.


GravatarLooks like my kid went off the wagon. Again.
Sallyh


MOTHER!


GravatarAgent O, where the fuck have you been? We've been looking all over for you!

Jeez, you kiss your kids with that mouth?
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Gravatar"While the Santa Barbara Tea Party and Culpepper Society event was officially nonpartisan, speculation about Palin gave it a decidedly Republican edge."



Right, because it was right down the middle otherwise...


GravatarAgent O: no, I wasn't here for that. I'm not surprised though. I never thought the gravatar was going to be the answer to name-stealing.


GravatarSeriously Sallyh, I'm sorry. But if the kid needs any help in functioning, I'm here.


GravatarOkay, I thought the hooker union joke was funny and I'm in a union and wouldn't have it any other way. . .
Integral ♠ Lit


As was I, and therefore my dad is not poor in his old age (long story), as is Mrs. U now (they call it a faculty association, but it's a union, and it's bloody well necessary).

It was funny...why?


GravatarJeez, you kiss your kids with that mouth?
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Agent Orange


[hangs head at reprimand]

Jeez. Can't you take a joke . . .


GravatarMy brother has a recurring alcohol problem. Sadly, I just had to cut him loose and let him deal with it on hit own. He's actually doing better now, although the years of abuse have taken thier toll.
Mark B.--Buzzkiller


Don't feel bad, I had to do the same thing to mine (including having him arrested). He's in a halfway house, "men's center" kind of place now, 9 years down the road, on his meds, doing much better. His years have taken their toll, too, but at least there doesn't seem to be a shopping cart in his future...


GravatarIt was funny...why?

Seniority is pretty funny when put in that context.


Gravatar"It was funny...why?"

Really?


GravatarGaza is simply a Palestinian ghetto, not unlike Warsaw was for Jews. Actually, it seems alot like a cross between the Warsaw Ghetto and the South Africans' idea of Indian reservations, the Bantustan.


GravatarOh Sallyh, I'm so sorry.

My son went to treatment last spring for drugs and alcohol and only stayed sober about 3 months. If you want to talk about it, I can give you my email. Let me know.
Integral ♠ Lit


Pay - Per - View


GravatarThe obvious solution for this is to remove the tax exemption for churches and start treating them like every other protection racket.
Mark B.--Buzzkiller


cloistered yer checkbook...


GravatarBloggers and the liberal media have been given fair warning : defame Sarah at your own peril. Start watching what you write and say about Governor Palin or see you in court.


GravatarIt was funny...why?

Seniority is pretty funny when put in that context.
NTodd,שלו


The person who invented that joke wasn't laughing with us, he was laughing at us.


GravatarSarah Palin KILLED Michael Jackson!!


GravatarStart watching what you write and say about Governor Palin or see you in court.

Quitty McQuitter ain't a governor no more. Well, whe won't be in a couple of weeks, anyway.


GravatarDozing off, sitting up in the chair...

g'night all.


GravatarSpeedy, Integral Lit, Mark, and everyone else, thank you.  To know for sure, I have to talk to her first, and she's out with my car.


GravatarStart watching what you write and say about Governor Palin or see you in court.

Fuck you, asshole.


GravatarI posted this earlier today...
A graduate student invites me to lunch today at a bar/restaurant I favor here in Philly. I've been pimping it here once in a while. So the student and I are sitting at the upstairs bar - a great room built around 1840, holds about 30 folks. Who friggin walks in some time later - Atrios himself with a friend. I re-introduce myself as "Agent Orange" (we met before at Eschacon I and at DLs years ago) we chat briefly and he goes to a table. The bartender leans in to me and says "Atrios, Agent Orange what the fuck's with the code names"? I tell him if I explain I'll have to kill him. He responds by asking if I'll have the usual Saturday 'smoked fish platter'.
I say 'yes'.
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GravatarA union plumber was called to woman's apartment in New York to repair a leaking pipe. When he arrived he was pleased to discover that the woman was quite a luscious, well stacked dish and during the course of the afternoon the two became extremely friendly.

About 5.30 p.m., the phone rang, disturbing the bedroom shenanigans. "That was my husband," she said, putting down the phone. "He's on his way home, but is going back to the office around 8. Come back then, dear, and we can take up where we left off."

The plumber looked at the woman in disbelief. "What? On my own time?"


Gravatar"It was funny...why?"

Really?
fred


Answered at 12:36.


GravatarOh Sally, I am so sorry for your troubles. Hope this isn't true.....especially, if she is in a car.


Gravatarstart treating them like every other protection racket.
Mark B.--Buzzkiller

cloistered yer checkbook...
Meanie-meanie,

concur, Jim Bakker just started another one of his schemes in Blue Eye, Mo.


GravatarHe responds by asking if I'll have the usual Saturday 'smoked fish platter'.
I say 'yes'.
.
Agent Orange

See, I avoid this whole type of situation by using my real name...


Gravatar"The person who invented that joke wasn't laughing with us, he was laughing at us."

You know who invented that joke? Who?


GravatarOff the wagon, and with the car..Not good..


Gravatar
It was funny...why?
Upsidasium


RAH had a couple things to say about humor, (which I will now mangle);
ALL humor involves some form of pain to someone or something. From the mildest embarrassment to injury or death.
And in Stranger he says "we laugh because we're Human, and it hurts, and laughter is the only thing that makes it stop".
Aside from that, I can only say, if a joke aint funny.....don't laugh.


Gravatar"The person who invented that joke wasn't laughing with us, he was laughing at us."

You know who invented that joke? Who?
fred


Did I say I did? Nope. Nice try at changing the subject.

By the way, you do seem to have a ready repertoire of anti-union jokes...


Gravatarconcur, Jim Bakker just started another one of his schemes in Blue Eye, Mo.
1Watt, Hermit


What's with all these assholes and their own personal 2nd Comings...


Gravatarthat's one thing about having not met anyone from here as of yet... I'd have a hell of a time explaining how this all works to an outsider.


GravatarStart watching what you write and say about Governor Palin or see you in court.

What court? Divorce court? Good, she can explain to the judge what she was doing snorting coke off my wife's ass at 2 o'clock in the afternoon.


GravatarSallyh. Ugh. I'll be thinking of you - and her. It's not a fun disease - for her or for her loved ones. I got sober at 23 and was lucky that it stuck.


GravatarThe person who invented that joke wasn't laughing with us, he was laughing at us.

Still pretty fucking funny.


GravatarIntegral Lit, I got sober last year.  So did she. 

I'm going line by line through her mobile phone calls, and there are a lot of numbers I don't recognize.


GravatarI don't think churches are exactly a protection racket. The threat they protect you from is largely imaginary. They don't bust arms, they just bust souls, which are an imaginary construct.


GravatarOk friends, I'm off to bed and wish all of you a nice evening...will CoT be watching the Sunday am shows so we don't have to? Thankfully, there is no MTP because of Wimbledon!


GravatarThank fucking dog. We need more general organizing, not provincial bullshit.

NTodd,שלו

Didn't SEIU split with the AFLCIO over where to use their resources, legislators or grassroots organizing?


Gravatar"By the way, you do seem to have a ready repertoire of anti-union jokes..."

It's called Teh Google. Try it sometime.


GravatarBloggers and the liberal media have been given fair warning : defame Sarah at your own peril. Start watching what you write and say about Governor Palin or see you in court.

What does 'defame' mean?


GravatarNick, yeah, last night I met Uncle Smokes at DL in Sioux Falls. You should have seen us trying to explain that we knew each other but had never met. A few of them had heard of the blog and Atrios and will probably check it out.

It was great to meet another in "meat space." Smokes was great and we had a grand time. We'll be doing it again, and fokowi will make it over some too. Now we just have to get you on the road west.


GravatarCoT loves tennis but said he was going to try to do Snuffulupagus.


GravatarWhat's with all these assholes and their own personal 2nd Comings...
Meanie-meanie,

it's the revolving door of forgiveness don'tyaknow.


GravatarHas Sarah been defenstrated yet?


GravatarAside from that, I can only say, if a joke aint funny.....don't laugh.
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person


Good advice.

I'm not gonna drift off from my usual smartypants self to lecture or argue. The joke was, imho, a tedious anti-union stereotype.

So, fred, got any funny jokes?


GravatarA man goes into a pet shop to buy a parrot. The shop owner points to three identical looking parrots on a perch and says, "The parrot on the left costs 500 dollars".

"Why does the parrot cost so much?" asks the man.

The shop owner says, "Well, the parrot knows how to use a computer".

The man then asks about the next parrot to be told that this one costs $1,000 because it can do everything the other parrot can do plus it knows how to use the UNIX operating system.

Naturally, the increasingly startled man asks about the third parrot to be told that it costs 2,000 dollars. Needless to say this begs the question, "What can it do?"

To which the shop owner replies, "To be honest I have never seen it do a thing, but the other two call him 'boss.'"


GravatarI'm still trying to learn the new players and positions in Afghanistan. I knew there was Task Force Leatherneck, which must be in the south doing the new offensive. But now I see there is also Task Force Mameluke, which might be more in the west. And is not, as I tried to see it at first, a typo.

Mameluke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mam.../ Mameluke_sword

Mamluk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk
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GravatarI've met a bunch of Eschaton commenters at an event in Austin hosted by our own Harry Doghiney. He's very nice and most everybody I met was pretty wonderful. I had a great time.


GravatarWhat does 'defame' mean?

What Barbie did to herself yesterday, I think.
(At least we can hope that it leads to richly deserved obscurity.)


Gravatar"Has Sarah been defenstrated yet?"

No, but rumor has it a moose jumped her in a Juneau alley late last night.


GravatarIt's "in what defamation respect, Charlie?"


Gravatar"By the way, you do seem to have a ready repertoire of anti-union jokes..."

It's called Teh Google. Try it sometime.
fred


Interesting. What, exactly, possessed you to google anti-union jokes?


GravatarIntegral Lit, I got sober last year. So did she.

I'm going line by line through her mobile phone calls, and there are a lot of numbers I don't recognize.

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Good for you. I know I've had to understand that my son's recovery is not my business, but it really is hard to step away from it, esp. when they live at home. He did for a while, and when he started drinking again, I just said, not in the house or around me.

Now he lives an hour away and does seem to be doing well. He's drinking, but seems to be doing so responsibly. We'll see how long he can do so. But you know, as they say, if he "can drink like a gentleman, my hat is off to him." He does know I'll always be here for him.

This is probably too much for here, but . . .


Gravatarbed. night all.


GravatarNTodd, in September, you'll have to catch this new Ken Burns documentary on the National Parks. It looks wonderful.

I believe they went to 53 of the 58 or 59 National Parks.

I have to get busy to meet my goal of visiting all of them...I've been a slacker the last 6 years.


GravatarNo, but rumor has it a moose jumped her in a Juneau alley late last night.
fred


While a couple of Elks and a Rotarian stood by...


Gravatarhey don't bust arms, they just bust souls, which are an imaginary construct.
Mark B.--Buzzkiller |

the social pressure on the vulnerable can be high, the mind of the vulnerable is weak.


GravatarI'd have a hell of a time explaining how this all works to an outsider.

Electric penpal boogaloo.
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GravatarCoT loves tennis but said he was going to try to do Snuffulupagus.

ms fahrenheit

With the lineup Snuffleupagus has on, we seriously need CoT to liveblog the damned thing..


GravatarInteresting week. Sarah Palin quit and Mark Sanford didn't. Who could have predicted that?


GravatarIntegral: now *that* should really weird out the other folks at your DL... "he's from *where*? how the hell did he get *here*?"


Gravatarhttp://www.themudflats.net/2009/...y-dont-miss-it/

Listen to the radio show live now

Good stuff about Palin.


GravatarI'm going line by line through her mobile phone calls, and there are a lot of numbers I don't recognize.

You can buy reverse lookup online...


Gravatarthe social pressure on the vulnerable can be high, the mind of the vulnerable is weak.

The emotional blackmail is real, that's for sure.


GravatarMeanie, might have to do that.


GravatarIntegral: now *that* should really weird out the other folks at your DL... "he's from *where*? how the hell did he get *here*?"
nick carraway


Yeah, that's kind of how it went! I had only met two of the people there once before, so it was kind of a strange experience, but by the end it was cool all around. I'll definitely be going back.


GravatarMark B.

Nice job on the leaded gas thread today.

And on that happy note, I'm out.

Night, bats...


GravatarDuane V

Very true.


Good night and sweet dreams all.


GravatarThis is probably too much for here, but . . .
Integral ♠ Lit


Hardly...


GravatarMeanie, might have to do that.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |


A lot of the phone # are free on reverse. Cell numbers ???
Just go to reverse white pages if you really want to.
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GravatarMark B.

Nice job on the leaded gas thread today.


I thought I was kind of going nuts answering all of those questions. I almost ignored them, but I decided to correct instead. Thanks for the positive feedback.


GravatarSallyh, I'd talk to someone there who knows the situation and is familiar with y'all's recovery. You might get some good help in what to let go and what to act on.

I definitely would take the keys and driving privileges away to start with. You don't need the mess that could come from that. As far as pursuing her phone calls, I'd talk to someone before putting all that energy into it. It could really drag you down into the muck. . .


GravatarG'night ms. f. Hope your day is fabulous tomorrow!

Sweet dreams.


GravatarThe emotional blackmail is real, that's for sure.
Mark B.

not just emotional, cults around here require 1040's to join.


GravatarAnywho has reverse lookup for numbers in the wild. Google also somewhat, when you put in just the number (xxx) xxx-xxxx.
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GravatarQuentin: the sword makes more sense than the ex-slave that fought the Crusaders, but only by a little... seems like another example of using "our" meanings for words without consideration of what they might mean to the people we're dealing with. but maybe I don't get it?


Gravatar"While a couple of Elks and a Rotarian stood by..."

How dare you! My father was a Rotarian!


GravatarNite, ms f.

I'm out too. Later, Atriots.


GravatarI'd have a hell of a time explaining how this all works to an outsider.

"The first rule of Eschaton Club..."


Gravatar

G'night Duane V!

Sweet dreams!


GravatarAnywho has reverse lookup for numbers in the wild. Google also somewhat, when you put in just the number (xxx) xxx-xxxx.

Bing does an insanely good job with reverse lookup. I typed in my number and up popped a map to my house. It's the ultimate stalker tool.


Gravatarsheets


Gravatar"The first rule of Eschaton Club..."

Is to yell FIRST?!


GravatarI'd have a hell of a time explaining how this all works to an outsider.

"The first rule of Eschaton Club..."
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |


The mildly unsettling thing is when I say, "I met them on the internet and..." and ask myself, did I just say that? I thought stories that started out with that phrase always ended up bad.
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GravatarUnreal - now it's Darren on the Twilight Zone.

Magic.
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GravatarIn years past, we had two houses of rednecks on either side of us that competed in fireworks. Thankfully, this year, nuttin'.


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