The True Believers on either side are getting harder to take seriously.
"Coke SUCKS. It is POISON and it KILLS YOU and it makes your kids STERILE. Pepsi cures cancer. END OF STORY."
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 8:11 pm | #
I didn't see the hearing, but I bet Lanny Davis is still worse than Ickes.
res ipsa loquitur |
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05.31.08 - 8:12 pm | #
Now that Hillary's the de facto nominee, how's she going to handle McCain?
wÒÓ† |
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05.31.08 - 8:12 pm | #
Word. And that's why Clinton sucks compared to Obama. He's not a Clinton and he was opposed to the war.
Stunt Woman | 05.31.08 - 8:07 pm | #
i got deadthreaded below (go back and read it if interested) but the point is that, in relation to my own personal progressive desires, they both suck.
civil unions my ass. private insurers can blow me.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:12 pm | #
It's getting crowded under this bus.
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Granny and Jeremiah |
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05.31.08 - 8:12 pm | #
(PS Can a Church fit under a bus?)
If anyone can shove a church under a bus, Obama can!
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 8:12 pm | #
I suck harder than anyone, except maybe that freak at the Clinton protest.
And with that, I'm off to photograph some Twinkies.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 8:12 pm | #
... the supporters of B. Hussein "Unconditional Surrender in Iraq" Obama don't suck, they're just horribly misguided. Thankfully, we'll never have to find out what kind of disastrous president he would have had. I hope, for his sake, he can at least win his home state. A 50 state blowout would be humiliating; McCain should just settle for 49 and not campaign in Illinois.
American Hawk |
05.31.08 - 8:12 pm | #
res owes me a soft drink.
edub |
05.31.08 - 8:12 pm | #
I didn't see the hearing, but I bet Lanny Davis is still worse than Ickes.
res ipsa loquitur
And in Greenville, SC home to Bob Jones Univ. and Furman where Bush is scheduled to give a commencement address tonight.
Graham and Witherspoon took different approaches when they addressed delegates at the last major event before the primary.
Witherspoon, who said he faces an "uphill battle" against the incumbent, focused on his signature issue, fighting illegal immigration.
"They're stealing across the border all the time" bringing crime, drugs and gangs, he said, calling for scrapping the I-9 form in favor of an electronic verification system that employers could use to screen out illegals from hiring, making English the nation's "standard language" and replacing the income tax with a sales tax.
The latter, Witherspoon said, would cover "those who don't pay taxes now, illegal aliens, drug dealers."
Graham used his remarks to embrace President Bush, just hours before he was to meet Bush at Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport and accompany him to Furman University for a presidential commencement address that has divided the campus.
At his first mention of Bush's visit, Graham paused, waiting for applause. When it didn't come, it took a slight nod from Graham to prompt a round of applause.
"President Bush is my friend," he continued, "and I'm not going to run away from the friend."
Graham credited Bush with preventing additional attacks on the U.S. since 9/11, cutting taxes three times and successfully nominating Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justice Samuel Alito to the U.S. Supreme Court.
"History is going to judge him a lot better than everybody thinks," Graham predicted.
Gimlet |
05.31.08 - 8:13 pm | #
They certainly do.
Karin Hussein |
05.31.08 - 8:14 pm | #
The Lanny Davis Cigarette Story
(I apologize for posting this again, but I just have to - it's like OCD)
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:13 pm | #
Ickes had to eat an ass.
A. Morphous |
05.31.08 - 8:14 pm | #
[Wait...I'm confused about who we're talking about now.]
Uncle Smokes
We're talking about whomever you support. They suck, as do their supporters. Which, sadly, includes you.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 8:15 pm | #
i got deadthreaded below (go back and read it if interested) but the point is that, in relation to my own personal progressive desires, they both suck.
civil unions my ass. private insurers can blow me.
Dirk, we are unified here. And I also predict that Obama will make some horrific pandering statements to religionists in the future which will soften my stools.
Stunt Woman |
05.31.08 - 8:15 pm | #
The Red Wings suck. Their fans aren't real hockey fans.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 8:15 pm | #
I didn't see the hearing, but I bet Lanny Davis is still worse than Ickes.
res ipsa loquitur
He's more of a weasel. But Ickes was throwing threats around like a Don.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 8:15 pm | #
edub, I do. And he sucks.
res ipsa loquitur |
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05.31.08 - 8:15 pm | #
You know, there is a big thing we should be getting out of this party tonight, and that is the Democratic National Committee is not somehow controlled by the Clintons. Not by the Clinton campaign any more. We may have started this campaign believing that the Clinton campaign controlled, but this is Barack Obama's party now. He's already been winning the outside game, he now won the inside game. Yes it's true that Harold Ickes can threaten this stuff about the credentials, but Don Fowler really did signal today by being for the Michigan compromise that, "Guys, it's over."
Shaw Kenawe |
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05.31.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Buckeye -- Topaz is so pretty, but Brego doesn't look comfortable enough.
(That tongue is HIE-larious!)
V for Virginia, discouraged | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:11 pm
She is indeed very pretty, though she's not as self-aware of her prettiness as Smudge was.
And Brego's just a goofball.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.31.08 - 8:16 pm | #
[Wait...I'm confused about who we're talking about now.]
The True Believers on either side are getting harder to take seriously
I can barely deal any more.
*Sigh*
{Once again, gazes lovingly and longingly at Eschaton nym}
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Everyone sucks. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Chairman Mo
But, doing in unison ala Chairman Mao really sucks.
cosmic tumbler |
05.31.08 - 8:16 pm | #
edub, I do. And he sucks.
res ipsa loquitur
Thanks to the gods we have Howard Wolfson as the voice of reason.
edub |
05.31.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Dirk, we are unified here. And I also predict that Obama will make some horrific pandering statements to religionists in the future which will soften my stools.
Stunt Woman | 05.31.08 - 8:15 pm | #
ooo, can we kiss and make up now?
dirk gently, spiraling |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Dude, you told me to go to Time Warner.
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:17 pm | #
I told you to bring a penis helicopter. I did NOT tell you to go to Time Warner.
The Kenosha Kid |
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05.31.08 - 8:18 pm | #
ooo, can we kiss and make up now?
dirk gently, spiraling
NO.
Ima put you inna jar and shake it up to watch you fight. It's cool when bugs do it. Even better on Eschaton.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 8:18 pm | #
Yes it's true that Harold Ickes can threaten this stuff about the credentials, but Don Fowler really did signal today by being for the Michigan compromise that, "Guys, it's over."
Chuck Todd shows signs of "getting it" from time to time.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 8:18 pm | #
You know, there is a big thing we should be getting out of this party tonight, and that is the Democratic National Committee is not somehow controlled by the Clintons. Not by the Clinton campaign any more
Butbut, she's all-powerful in her will to powerful power! I was told there'd be cake and scorched earth!
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 8:18 pm | #
We're talking about whomever you support. They suck, as do their supporters. Which, sadly, includes you.
Nim, ham hock of liberty
I just can't win for losing...wait, what does that phrase mean, anyway?
Uncle Smokes |
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05.31.08 - 8:19 pm | #
Chuck Todd shows signs of "getting it" from time to time.
SteveLG
The value of "experts."
cosmic tumbler |
05.31.08 - 8:19 pm | #
yeah, the Todd's good at teh math when the spinning gets thick on a long primary night....
doug r |
05.31.08 - 8:19 pm | #
Speaking of losers.....
"By Jonah Goldberg
Not since America’s most revered feckless crapweasel, former Vermont Sen. James Jeffords, switched parties have Beltway Republicans been more eager to sew a half-starved ferret into someone’s body cavity. In this case, the desired victim is former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, who has coughed up a time-honored hairball of capital culture: the “tell-all” memoir. This is a bit of a misnomer in that they usually tell little but claim much.
It’s been rumored that McClellan was hired by the Bush White House to appeal to a specific sub-constituency: pasty middle-aged men with a thumbless grasp of the English language. The veracity of this rumor has long been undermined by the assumption that Bush had locked down this constituency all on his own.[...]
In McClellan’s book, What Happened (oddly missing a question mark), the author purports to explain how the Bush White House launched a “propaganda machine” to push the country into a war of choice.
I have not read the book. I will once I finish eating the contents of my sock drawer (which ranks slightly higher on my to-do list).
This is all good news for Rudy.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:20 pm | #
I just can't win for losing...wait, what does that phrase mean, anyway?
Uncle Smokes
It means your candidate sucks, your ideas are foolish in the eyes of others, and your mother dresses you funny.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 8:20 pm | #
Obama throwing his church under the bus.
Whatever it takes these days.
MP |
05.31.08 - 8:20 pm | #
If NTodd had a blog, it would suck.
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 8:21 pm | #
Sadly, No has a very nice smackdown of that Jonah Goldberg piece.
The Kenosha Kid |
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05.31.08 - 8:21 pm | #
I think Wolf just called the Dems babykillers.
Karin Hussein |
05.31.08 - 8:21 pm | #
incidently, i predicted this result on 1/30, when edwards dropped out.
John Edwards has now dropped out of the presidential race. Based on my chart, Hillary Clinton is next to go.
the chart is here. and stunt woman, i'll save you the click through and agree retroactively with your obama prediction:
nd he is far more of a social conservative than he would have you believe. Look at how he has run his campaign on the issues of gay rights and religious affiliation. Instead of decrying the portrayal of Muslim therefore Evil, he was quick to throw up the Christian Flag. True, but he should have added "and so what if I WERE?" He should have attacked not only the lies, but the underlying bigotry. He failed. And his embrace of anti-gay hate-mongers under the guise of "reaching out" is despicable. Mark my words - as Obama ages, he will become more and more of a social reactionary.
Ickes was wearing his blue and white checked shirt, to say, "I may be the son of FDR's top advisor, but I am a man of the people."
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 8:21 pm | #
No kissing and making up.
No PDAs.
There is a hockey game, on for Christ's sake.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 8:21 pm | #
In McClellan’s book, What Happened (oddly missing a question mark)...
Not since America’s most revered feckless crapweasel, former Vermont Sen. James Jeffords, switched parties have Beltway Republicans been more eager to sew a half-starved ferret into someone’s body cavity.
Here comes the big thunderstorm we've been promised all day.
I cannot wait until BHO wipes the fucking floor with McBush. I'm going to stay drunk on something spectacular chosen by SteveLG for three days.
res ipsa loquitur |
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05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
McClellan was hired by the Bush White House to appeal to a specific sub-constituency: pasty middle-aged men with a thumbless grasp of the English language.
Wow.
Jonah IS the target demographic.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
This is all good news for Rudy.
Rudy's keeping his powder dry for the convention.
Sufferin' Blessed Succotash |
05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
Somebody commented succintly recently "Hey Religion? STFU for a change during an election."
MP |
05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
I won't support any candidate that would have me for a supporter!
ducky 1515 |
05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
May I just say that I don't think we should care or know one way or another about whether Obama is or is not a member of a certain church? I don't care if he's a protege of L. Ron Hubbard; it is what it is, and what it is is none of my goddamned business.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
Comment by Oranged you outraged blocked.
How juvenile.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
Again with the losers...
"President Bush’s name gets no applause at South Carolina GOP convention.»
At the South Carolina state GOP convention today, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) “used his remarks to embrace President Bush, just hours before he was to meet Bush at Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport.” But when Graham first mentioned Bush’s name, the GOP crowd stayed silent, refusing to applaud the President:
At his first mention of Bush’s visit, Graham paused, waiting for applause. When it didn’t come, it took a slight nod from Graham to prompt a round of applause." http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05...gop-convention/
pigboy |
05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
What is Obama doing? This press conference looks like a concession/resignation speech. Bad 'optics.'
The Kenosha Kid |
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05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
but make-up sex is the best.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:23 pm | #
camelot,
That dog is a Frenchie.
res ipsa loquitur |
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05.31.08 - 8:24 pm | #
May I just say that I don't think we should care or know one way or another about whether Obama is or is not a member of a certain church? I don't care if he's a protege of L. Ron Hubbard; it is what it is, and what it is is none of my goddamned business.
Well, I might find Scientology a little off-putting.
Sufferin' Blessed Succotash |
05.31.08 - 8:24 pm | #
maybe he is conceding. I wouldn't blame him.
Escariot |
05.31.08 - 8:24 pm | #
Ickes was wearing his blue and white checked shirt, to say, "I may be the son of FDR's top advisor, but I am a man of the people."
FDR's grandson was not impressed.
Karin Hussein |
05.31.08 - 8:24 pm | #
What is Obama doing? This press conference looks like a concession/resignation speech. Bad 'optics.'
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
I heard that the Red Wings are all voting for McCain.
Gomez |
05.31.08 - 8:25 pm | #
I just can't win for losing...wait, what does that phrase mean, anyway?
No serious person could believe as you do.
Apostate, Burnt Tonuge |
05.31.08 - 8:25 pm | #
It's on.. gahh.. Fox News
The Kenosha Kid |
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05.31.08 - 8:25 pm | #
chuck todd, the other day, said that the 'wh press secretary (referring to mcclellan and the current kerfuckingfluffle) was merely a press person with spectacular access.'
So you've named him 'bubba'?
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.31.08 - 8:26 pm | #
Sufferin, so long as he's not trying to convert us or determine his policies based on it, he can worship Xenu to his heart's content.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
05.31.08 - 8:26 pm | #
I do, I admit it, whatch gonna do about it?
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:26 pm | #
May I just say that I don't think we should care or know one way or another about whether Obama is or is not a member of a certain church? I don't care if he's a protege of L. Ron Hubbard; it is what it is, and what it is is none of my goddamned business.
Hey, if we weren't meant to apply a religious test for office, it would be in the Constitution...
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:26 pm | #
Speaking of losers.....
"By Jonah Goldberg
Poor Jonah.
Knowing that his party's nominee is an even bigger loser than he is.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:26 pm | #
res ipsa loquitur
You now have me thinking of getting a Boston And a French Bulldog, in a year.
One is quite an expense, though.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 8:26 pm | #
Gomez, who's that cute red-headed Penguin? Would you mind terribly if I had my way with him?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:26 pm | #
They all suck.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:26 pm | #
will barack be joining another church if he is leaving his present one?
whose dog is that ? Adorable.
not the virgotex you knew. |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:27 pm | #
Hey, if we weren't meant to apply a religious test for office, it would be in the Constitution...
Eat me, in the name of the lord.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
Oi...I can hear it now..."See? We TOLD you he was Muslim!"
Escariot |
05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
i don't see it on the Major Cable News Networks
who is carrying it?
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Tacitus Sinatra | 05.31.08 - 8:24 pm
Only Faux so far.
I am puzzled. This is not the news... oh, wait - it actually fits. The Narrative Adjustment Dept is working overtime, but they're the week-end crew.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
One is quite an expense, though.
camelot
No kidding. FireMonkey (Rose's human) was cluing me in to how much she spends on vet, food, boarding, etc. every year and I thought twice about it. I wanted a black one. I was gonna call him "Claude."
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
I don't give a fuck if he's a Raelian as long as he keeps it to himself.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:25 pm
not the virgotex you knew. |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
But when Graham first mentioned Bush’s name, the GOP crowd stayed silent, refusing to applaud the President:
Bill O'Reilly will demand their arrest on Monday.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
So you've named him 'bubba'?
No - there are two Littles - one very much littler than teh other. I think the bigger of the littles is a boy, a brother - Bubba. The littler of the littles is a girl and is Sister. Names - not so much. Designations.
What is Obama doing? This press conference looks like a concession/resignation speech. Bad 'optics.'
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:22 pm | #
I'm sure he'll campaign for Hillary when she gets the nomination.
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
Statement from The Clinton Campaign on the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee Meeting Harold Ickes and Tina Flournoy made the following statement this evening:
We strongly object to the Committee's decision to undercut its own rules in seating Michigan’s delegates without reflecting the votes of the people of Michigan.
The Committee awarded to Senator Obama not only the delegates won by Uncommitted, but four of the delegates won by Senator Clinton. This decision violates the bedrock principles of our democracy and our Party.
We reserve the right to challenge this decision before the Credentials Committee and appeal for a fair allocation of Michigan’s delegates that actually reflect the votes as they were cast.
- - Harold Ickes and Tina Flournoy | Press Release | 05.31.08
Bob |
05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
mcclellan was/is a lying weasel. not the least because he doesn't know what "lying" is. how else could he claim bush deceived but didn't lie?
the wh smear campaign has cast his book as far more what it should have been than it was, or so i gather from anderson cooper's interview. i won't buy it myself, he hasn't said anything in interviews that we didn't already know and that he himself didn't at the time vehemently deny.
he deserves no quarter. not a nickle. not a ha'penny.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
Does she mean Brian Whitney?
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 8:28 pm | #
camelot,
I think Terry C (another Atriot) has a Boston Terrier.
res ipsa loquitur |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:29 pm | #
Monsieur has chosen to watch '13 Going on 30,' based upon his appreciation of Jennifer Garner.
I'm not sure I'm getting the attraction.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
05.31.08 - 8:29 pm | #
res ipsa loquitur
You now have me thinking of getting a Boston And a French Bulldog, in a year.
One is quite an expense, though.
camelot, Go Pens
Both great dogs.
I love mooshy-faced dogs.
Boston Terriers, Pugs, Bulldogs, Pekingese.....
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:30 pm | #
My brother just sold his 2 y.o. English Bulldog, Dozer. They loved the dog, but he had an odor issue that required surgery to the tune of a couple grand, and he couldn't afford it.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:30 pm | #
these are my delegates of the new primary that i shed for you and for many
Sufferin, so long as he's not trying to convert us or determine his policies based on it, he can worship Xenu to his heart's content.
If his religion tells him that it's better to talk to people than make war, and that it's immoral to even threaten to obliterate another nation, then I'm cool with it.
Karin Hussein |
05.31.08 - 8:30 pm | #
Eat me, in the name of the lord.
THY WILL BE DONE!
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:30 pm | #
If his religion tells him that it's better to talk to people than make war, and that it's immoral to even threaten to obliterate another nation, then I'm cool with it.
Karin Hussein
I can dig it.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:32 pm | #
THY WILL BE DONE!
NTodd, Pink Poseur
i just hope its unleavened ...
(so sorry, vicki - sometimes i can't help myself)
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:32 pm | #
Gomez, who's that cute red-headed Penguin? Would you mind terribly if I had my way with him?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I can't believe that no one posted that the Pens scored! Early in the 1st, too.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:32 pm | #
Don't tell my wife, she'll have me in the Doctor's office on Monday
Shared Humanity
SH, we've been meaning to have a word with you...
Gromit |
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05.31.08 - 8:33 pm | #
What was the deal on the assignment of the delegates? Did they do Michigan and FL 50/50?
V for Virginia, discouraged |
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05.31.08 - 8:34 pm | #
I've always respected Harold Ickes service to his country, but he does try one's patience.
Karin Hussein |
05.31.08 - 8:34 pm | #
mcclellan was/is a lying weasel. not the least because he doesn't know what "lying" is. how else could he claim bush deceived but didn't lie?
I have sympathy for him. Seems he has a pretty simple desire to do the right thing with only now a glimmering sense of how complicated that can be. Classic case of the road to hell is paved with good intentions, I think.
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Sparkle Plenty |
05.31.08 - 8:34 pm | #
I can't believe that no one posted that the Pens scored! Early in the 1st, too.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
This is, like... hockey or something, right?
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 8:34 pm | #
I know many think it a phenomenal waste of money, but I guess because I grew up watching Mercury and Gemini and Apollo launches, I can't help but be thrilled with humans getting into a vehicle and being flung into space.
MP |
05.31.08 - 8:34 pm | #
I know this will sound disrespectful, but it grates on me how Obama sometimes talks so haltingly and stuttery and whatever - it reminds me of fucking Boosh.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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05.31.08 - 8:34 pm | #
Vicki
I'm trying to figure out which Pen you think is cute.
To all the dog lovers:
I have found the Boston breed excellent. Great pets. No allergy problems for owners. No yippy barking. Good with kids. Don't hurt when they jump on you, like current Lab (that I love.)
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 8:34 pm | #
My brother just sold his 2 y.o. English Bulldog, Dozer. They loved the dog, but he had an odor issue that required surgery to the tune of a couple grand, and he couldn't afford it.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
English Bulldogs have a great deal of health problems. They can't even mate normally - it has to be done with artificial insemination and the pups are born by C-section/
Which explains why they are so expensive.
I kind of like the American Bulldog. Also, something called the Olde English Bulldogge....looks like the Bulldog did back in the 19th century before breeders started fucking with it.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:34 pm | #
do i know you?
fokowi | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:32 pm
[Pouts. Then moves on to rubbing the shiny head of my bald man.]
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:35 pm | #
They should have seated all of the delegates with full votes and given Barack the uncommitted.
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:35 pm | #
MP, it never ceases to amaze me. The math involved to create such events takes my breath away
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
05.31.08 - 8:35 pm | #
I have found the Boston breed excellent. Great pets. No allergy problems for owners. No yippy barking. Good with kids. Don't hurt when they jump on you, like current Lab (that I love.)
camelot, Go Pens
They're very smart....easy to housebreak.
And very, very sensitive to your tone of voice.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:35 pm | #
I'll know we've turned a corner when George Bush writes a book denouncing the dishonesty and incompetence of the Bush administration.
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 8:36 pm | #
ok, well, maybe a little. but he is being very disingenuous if you ask me. he knew he was lying at the time, you could see it in his face.
to his credit, at least it bothered him a little. unlike ari, or tony who had it trained out of him, or dana who is too stupid to know the difference.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:36 pm | #
I know this will sound disrespectful, but it grates on me how Obama sometimes talks so haltingly and stuttery and whatever - it reminds me of fucking Boosh.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory
You wouldn't have like JFK, then.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 8:36 pm | #
They can't even mate normally - it has to be done with artificial insemination and the pups are born by C-section/
Rob was hoping to mate the dog.
The poor thing sure did have his share of problems. He was a sweet, sweet guy, but he stunk worse than a garbage dumpster at a Motel 6, and he was allergic to flies.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:36 pm | #
FL's delegates were all seated according to the primary, with each delegate's vote counting for .5 votes; MI was seated with each delegate getting .5 vote, 69 (34.5 votes) for Hillary, 59 (29.5 votes) for Barack.
plantsman, |
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05.31.08 - 8:36 pm | #
I have an acquaintance with a bulldog named Nixon. Best dog name ever.
Gromit |
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05.31.08 - 8:37 pm | #
I'll know we've turned a corner when George Bush writes a book denouncing the dishonesty and incompetence of the Bush administration.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:36 pm | #
from his prison cell.
dirk gently, spiraling |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:37 pm | #
It grates on me too, it's like he's searching for the perfect words - but at least he's thoughtful.
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 8:37 pm | #
can't help but be thrilled with humans getting into a vehicle and being flung into space.
If it were Dubya and Darth on a one way ticket to Mars, I'd have to agree.
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:38 pm | #
Wings score! Tie game.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:38 pm | #
Shared Humanity, 4Legs and her cats are supposedly busy building their Rocket to the Sun.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
05.31.08 - 8:38 pm | #
Dumbya's inability to speak intelligently grates on me.
plantsman, |
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05.31.08 - 8:38 pm | #
I can't believe that no one posted that the Pens scored! Early in the 1st, too. -Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
i didn't want to jinx it ... oh wait
focus, foreshadowed |
05.31.08 - 8:38 pm | #
so is everybody happy?
ErinPDX |
05.31.08 - 8:39 pm | #
I know this will sound disrespectful, but it grates on me how Obama sometimes talks so haltingly and stuttery and whatever - it reminds me of fucking Boosh.
When you have to run every word through 12 internal filters before speaking it....that's natural.
It's also natural if you're a moron. Which is quite lucky for the morons who wish to be Preznit.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 8:39 pm | #
I'll know we've turned a corner when George Bush writes a book denouncing the dishonesty and incompetence of the Bush administration.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:36 pm | #
from his prison cell.
dirk gently, spiraling | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:37 pm
How the hell did Gomez know you meant Malone, as I'm here trying to figure it the hell out.
Many, many tatoos.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 8:39 pm | #
MI was seated with each delegate getting .5 vote, 69 (34.5 votes) for Hillary, 59 (29.5 votes) for Barack.
Unfortunately, this is not an accurate reflection of the will of the people. My Uncommitted vote was not for Obama.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:39 pm | #
I have an acquaintance with a bulldog named Nixon. Best dog name ever.
Friend had a female pit bull he named "Nixon".
He has a twisted sense of humor.
watertiger, rica suave |
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05.31.08 - 8:39 pm | #
to his credit, at least it bothered him a little. unlike ari, or tony who had it trained out of him, or dana who is too stupid to know the difference.
dirk gently
My take, as well. Scotty at least turned red and looked sheepish when he was spouting the administration's lies.
Willendorf Venus |
05.31.08 - 8:39 pm | #
Does she mean Brian Whitney? ~ camelot
Ryan Whitney was a Boston University Terrier
mojo |
05.31.08 - 8:40 pm | #
so is everybody happy?
ErinPDX | 05.31.08 - 8:39 pm | #
i'll never be happy.
but i'm ok w/ the MI/FL compromise.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:40 pm | #
Rocket to the Sun.
That would do quite nicely.
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:40 pm | #
No yippy barking.
Yah. Sure. Let me introduce you to the FOUR G-D BOSTON TERRIERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY BACK WALL THAT HAVEN'T STOPPED YIPPING SINCE 2004.
Arthur J. GWPDA, Appts Secy |
05.31.08 - 8:40 pm | #
It was the wish of the MI Democratic Party, take it up with them.
plantsman, |
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05.31.08 - 8:41 pm | #
so is everybody happy?
Happier than should be allowed by law.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:41 pm | #
Unfortunately, this is not an accurate reflection of the will of the people. My Uncommitted vote was not for Obama.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
If you've got some problem with our elections being decided by a small handful of people cutting an arbitrary deal in a backroom, maybe you should move to RUSSIA.
Commie.
Nim, ham hock of liberty |
05.31.08 - 8:41 pm | #
Let me introduce you to the FOUR G-D BOSTON TERRIERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY BACK WALL THAT HAVEN'T STOPPED YIPPING SINCE 2004.
You wouldn't have like JFK, then.
SteveLG | 05.31.08 - 8:36 pm
Au contraire - loved his speeches and recorded them at the band hall to transcribe parts of. Before internet transcripts, and all. I even liked Vaughn Meader a little.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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05.31.08 - 8:41 pm | #
so is everybody happy?
ErinPDX
Is Harold Ickes in the wood chipper? If so, I'm sufficiently happy.
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 8:41 pm | #
My Uncommitted vote was not for Obama.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:39 pm | #
well, but we'll never really know an accurate reflection. lot's of uncommitted voted probably meant 'none of the above,' otoh i suspect a lot of obama votes didn't get cast at all. and didn't they decide to give weight to the write-ins after all?
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:42 pm | #
FOUR G-D BOSTON TERRIERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY BACK WALL THAT HAVEN'T STOPPED YIPPING SINCE 2004.
Hey Democratic party, you are NOT going to just use my vagina and then throw it away for Hussein Obama. I'll vote for McCain if Hillary isn't given what is rightfully ours too.
Harriet Christian speaks for m |
05.31.08 - 8:43 pm | #
Neighbor has the mini-yippin-pin
jerry campbell |
05.31.08 - 8:43 pm | #
I've opened my Giant Economy Sized Can of Spanish green olives stuffed with anchovies.
Really? I'm surprised; I've never heard one be yippy. That is one of the things I like about them. I'm sorry, there is nothing worse.
Yeah, sorry, Ryan, not Brian.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 8:44 pm | #
I even liked Vaughn Meader a little.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory
Then you'll remember that the "uhs" and "errs" were a staple part of his JFK mimicry.
Obama's and JFK's vocal mannerisms were certainly not identical, but both had a halting style in extemporaneous speaking, as opposed to "set pieces."
SteveLG |
05.31.08 - 8:44 pm | #
Cubs won 5 to 4 today, the best record in baseball.
Your candidate still sucks.
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:44 pm | #
Nobody is using your vagina, honey. It's all yours.
Willendorf Venus |
05.31.08 - 8:44 pm | #
If you've got some problem with our elections being decided by a small handful of people cutting an arbitrary deal in a backroom
I do have a problem with that, but then, I've had issues with everything they've done this year.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:44 pm | #
Dumbya's inability to speak intelligently grates on me.
plantsman,
As I've said, not only is he responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people, but he is also guilty of butchering the English language.
BTW, I think Obama speaks well.
At least he doesn't giggle and smirk at inappropriate times.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:44 pm | #
I'll vote for McCain if Hillary isn't
as if you wouldn't have anyway. if you love hillary so much, why don't you listen to her?
"it would be a grave mistake not to vote for senator obama [should he be the nominee]" --hrc
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:45 pm | #
What I can't believe is that someone in the last three months couldn't have come up with the money to redo the Dem primaries in MI and FL.
mer |
05.31.08 - 8:45 pm | #
Yeah, McCain's record on women's issues is just perfect.
plantsman, |
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05.31.08 - 8:45 pm | #
Nobody is using your vagina, honey. It's all yours.
Willendorf Venus | 05.31.08 - 8:44 pm | #
he can't see it back there.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:45 pm | #
No yippy barking.
Yah. Sure. Let me introduce you to the FOUR G-D BOSTON TERRIERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY BACK WALL THAT HAVEN'T STOPPED YIPPING SINCE 2004.
Arthur J. GWPDA, Appts Secy
There are some badly trained dogs there.
From my experience with Bostons, they're not constant barkers.
When they bark, there is a good reason.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:45 pm | #
Hey Democratic party, you are NOT going to just use my vagina and then throw it away for Hussein Obama. I'll vote for McCain if Hillary isn't given what is rightfully ours too.
What I can't believe is that someone in the last three months couldn't have come up with the money to redo the Dem primaries in MI and FL.
mer | 05.31.08 - 8:45 pm
I think write-ins were somewhat factored in to the decision.
And I know democracy isn't perfect, and it is messy.
I still advocate voting on paper ballots, and counting all votes by hand.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:46 pm | #
Anybody claiming to be a Democrat who does not work their fucking asses off for the Democratic nominee is not, in actual fact, a Democrat.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
I have seen a lot of supporters sucking on both sides for the past six months but I am afraid today the suckage was very very one-sided
Benjamin |
05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
I wouldn't know how to use a vagina.
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
so is everybody happy?
just waitin' on the 9 o'clock drinks partay.
THEN I'll be happy!
watertiger, rica suave |
Homepage |
05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
From my experience with Bostons, they're not constant barkers.
boston terriers aren't barkers.
they are 'bahwkers'
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
What I can't believe is that someone in the last three months couldn't have come up with the money to redo the Dem primaries in MI and FL.
Michigan's legislature nixed that idea.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
I'll vote for McCain if Hillary
Who the fuck cares?
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
I still advocate voting on paper ballots, and counting all votes by hand.
I'm fine with e-voting so long as there is a paper record and mandatory auditing.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
to his credit, at least it bothered him a little. unlike ari, or tony who had it trained out of him, or dana who is too stupid to know the difference.
dirk gently
Yeah, he definitely had qualms. But it's hard to accept that you're only a pawn in their game.
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Sparkle Plenty |
05.31.08 - 8:47 pm | #
disappointed in me
bend over and take your spanking right now girlfriend
ErinPDX |
05.31.08 - 8:48 pm | #
The Obama press conference on Fox has now been followed by about 15 minutes of relentless, vicious trashing of Obama. They even got Sean Hannity on the phone to attack him.
Chichimec |
05.31.08 - 8:48 pm | #
The united States is so powerful, we were able to fuck up Vietnam and land on the Moon at the same time.
Let's see Costa Rica do that shit.
MP |
05.31.08 - 8:48 pm | #
boston terriers aren't barkers.
they are 'bahwkers'
dirk gently, spiraling
With vigah!
Then there's a breed called the Havanese.
Originated in "Cuber".
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:48 pm | #
I still advocate voting on paper ballots, and counting all votes by hand.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Under the Klieg lights...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
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05.31.08 - 8:49 pm | #
I will repeat this story, purely for honesty's sake.
When I was going thru the hell of Ft. Leavenworth, I contacted two senators to assist me. One was Nancy Kassebaum of Kansas - and she did pretty good. The other, because I am an Arizonan, was McCain (not Kyl - I'm not insane.) Understand that I was not in Arizona at the time.
McCain came thru. A few months later I discovered that with all the various antagonisms, the conflicts and the papers filed, the Army had one overriding horror and they actually charged me with it - I HAD CONTACTED MCCAIN. Really. They were madder that I had dealt with McCain than that I had sued them, that I had gone to the IG, that I had done anything at all. For whatever reason, the Army was absolutely horrified that McCain had become involved. This is not to say that McCain did anything more than Kassebaum had done - he didn't. But for whatever reason the Army ran scared. Me, I was merely a constituent. But it was interesting to see the reaction, and that from Ft. Leavenworth.
They even got Sean Hannity on the phone to attack him.
Chichimec
Satan is building a special suite just for that son of a bitch.
In a just world, he would sweeping floors at TV stations.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:49 pm | #
about 15 minutes of relentless, vicious trashing
and your point is?????
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:50 pm | #
Harold Ickes is so awesome.
Wexler for President 2016.
Apphouse50 |
05.31.08 - 8:50 pm | #
I still advocate voting on paper ballots, and counting all votes by hand.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Absolutely agree, Vicki. There isn't an e-voting system out there that can't cause massive screw ups, accidentally or deliberately.
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Sparkle Plenty |
05.31.08 - 8:50 pm | #
Not that sports analogies are the best thing, but when Thers complains about the Buckeyes' beating his Canes because of "bad calls," I always remind him that a champ overcomes adversity and the really good champs don't put themselves into a position where a game is lost because of the refs. Both Hillary and Obama duked it out, and yeah it would be nice if this were clear-cut, but sometime this summer there will be a champion nominee and while it's sometimes a fun intellectual exercise to argue about the "what ifs," we won't have that luxury until McCain is defeated in November.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:50 pm | #
Can anti-Christian Leftists really be counted on to provide a coherent defense of Obama's obvious hypocrisy and the essential deceit of his identity as a Christian? None of them has enough respect for the church to make any sense.
Better to have an honest atheist, as I am, than to countenance this sort of abuse of faith.
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 8:50 pm | #
i am pushing a bill requiring voters to record their choices in their own blood, on parchment
Anybody claiming to be a Democrat who does not work their fucking asses off for the Democratic nominee is not, in actual fact, a Democrat.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
Spoken like a true possessor of male dominance. Look little boy I was a Democrat before you started jerking off to Dawn Wells photos, ok? It time that women started to get some respect in this country, that is more important than Dem/GOP.
Harriet Christian speaks for m |
05.31.08 - 8:51 pm | #
The united States is so powerful, we were able to fuck up Vietnam and land on the Moon at the same time.
Sadly, now we can only fuck up Iraq and can barely get a shuttle up.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:51 pm | #
bend over and take your spanking right now girlfriend
I don't think she had the backstory on what I was saying about Hillary. As far as I'm concerned, although I'm not a Hillary supporter, I think I've been fair and restrained with my opinions on her candidacy (with one or two exceptions). I haven't been involved in any flame wars or anything. I've voiced my opinions so many times, it's hardly worth repeating at the moment. And in the end, if she's the candidate, I'll vote for her.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 8:51 pm | #
just waitin' on the 9 o'clock drinks partay.
Well, you'd better change out of your bathing suit, then
(Wave at the "smoke detector")
Gromit |
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05.31.08 - 8:51 pm | #
Spoken like a true possessor of male dominance. Look little boy I was a Democrat before you started jerking off to Dawn Wells photos, ok? It time that women started to get some respect in this country, that is more important than Dem/GOP.
How is a man winning not respecting women? He's won. Get the fuck over it, you fake Democratic racist.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:51 pm | #
I wouldn't know how to use a vagina.
Shared Humanity
It's just a jump to the left
And then a step to the right
With your hands on your hips
You bring your knees in tight
But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane,
Let's do the Time Warp again!
focus, foreshadowed |
05.31.08 - 8:52 pm | #
For whatever reason, the Army was absolutely horrified that McCain had become involved.
it's because NO ONE likes him. the only reason he is the nominee is that when he loses they will have something cheery to fall back on.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:52 pm | #
i am pushing a bill requiring voters to record their choices in their own blood, on parchment
Anybody claiming to be a Democrat who does not work their fucking asses off for the Democratic nominee is not, in actual fact, a Democrat.
NTodd, Pink Poseur
For a syrup-guzzling fucknozzle, he makes a lot of sense.
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 8:52 pm | #
It time that women started to get some respect in this country, that is more important than Dem/GOP.
Harriet Christian speaks for m | 05.31.08 - 8:51 pm | #
Next time don't break the pill in half.
A. Morphous |
05.31.08 - 8:52 pm | #
It time that women started to get some respect in this country...
Do you know something about McCain that I don't?
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:52 pm | #
GWPDA:
for honesty's sake
And a very interesting story. Why can't you apply that same sense of principle to others?
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 8:52 pm | #
tac. i'll be in san fran from june 12 thru whenever. the sf fokowi lounge has no end date in sight...
fokowi |
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05.31.08 - 8:53 pm | #
It time that women started to get some respect in this country, that is more important than Dem/GOP.
Harriet Christian speaks for m | 05.31.08 - 8:51 pm | #
so you are voting for mccain? huh.
i didn't even realize he was a woman.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:53 pm | #
How is a man winning not respecting women? He's won. Get the fuck over it, you fake Democratic racist.
NTodd, Pink Poseur
I think 90% of the "pro Hillary" trolls are full of shit.
They're racist GOP fucks trying to stir up shit.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:53 pm | #
Better to have an honest atheist, as I am, than to countenance this sort of abuse of faith.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:50 pm
what gives you the right to claim that you are a follower of jesus christ?
which one of his commands have you been carrying out lately?
"if you would be perfect, sell all you have and give the money to the poor, and then follow me"
Don't know the circumstances of the Obama press conference, why it was carried live on Fox and not the other cable networks, but the relentless non-stop trashing of Obama is evidence of why
Obama should not ever, ever cooperate with the fuckers from Fox. Ever.
They use any form of cooperation as a means to attack and trash and denigrate and belittle.
Do not ever help them in any way, Obama. I was really pissed when he finally went on Fox for an interview last month.
but sometime this summer there will be a champion nominee
Yeah, like sometime next week. The HRC folks are already on record saying that we'd have a nominee by early June. We will.
mojo |
05.31.08 - 8:54 pm | #
so you are voting for mccain? huh.
i didn't even realize he was a woman.
You didn't read all 1200 pages of his medical records, did you...
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:54 pm | #
Cubs won 5 to 4 today, the best record in baseball.
Your candidate still sucks.
Shared Humanity | 05.31.08 - 8:44 pm
Should the Cubs actually win the Series this year, there will be no election, because the world will end.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.31.08 - 8:54 pm | #
it's because NO ONE likes him. the only reason he is the nominee is that when he loses they will have something cheery to fall back on.
dirk gently, spiraling
Vicki said months ago that he was going to be the nominee by default. Who else did they have?
And she was 100% correct.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:55 pm | #
I suspect the thing that will be taken to the Rules Committee will be the fact that a whole lot of uncommitted voters in Michigan were awarded to Obama?? That seems really off the wall since there was no way of knowing who they were for. They weren't votes for him.
There were no threats by Ickes. He did say "ass" a few times. So did I.
J. Barr |
05.31.08 - 8:55 pm | #
it's because NO ONE likes him...
dirk gently, spiraling | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:52 pm | #
You've never met NTodd, have you?
Culture of TrÜth |
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05.31.08 - 8:55 pm | #
I used to teach w/ Don Fowler in South Carolina. He is an eminently reasonable guy, & a wonderful person. (You will not catch me saying anything nice about Davis & Icky.
tomdurk |
05.31.08 - 8:55 pm | #
Remember when Homer asks Johnny Cash if he should get rid of all his possessions as the way to enlightenment and Johnny goes, "No way. If anything, you should get more possessions."?
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 8:56 pm | #
Any woman who votes for McCain needs her head examined.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:56 pm | #
tac. i'll be in san fran from june 12 thru whenever. the sf fokowi lounge has no end date in sight...
fokowi | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 8:53 pm |
There isn't an e-voting system out there that can't cause massive screw ups, accidentally or deliberately.
which is not to say one couldn't be created that would be far faster, more secure and more accurate than hand counted paper ballots.
actually, it wouldn't be that hard. if that is what the people who built and distributed them wanted.
dirk gently, spiraling |
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05.31.08 - 8:56 pm | #
Why did Talbot get a penalty? Wasn't he hit from behind?
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 8:58 pm | #
So, if we had an Atriot party, and assuming the A man himself were not running, who would be the best Atriot to have for president? I'll start by nominating NTodd. He has more personal political courage than a lot of us put together.
catalexis |
05.31.08 - 8:58 pm | #
There isn't a voting system out there that can't cause massive screw ups, accidentally or deliberately.
"Coke SUCKS. It is POISON and it KILLS YOU...
Nim, ham hock of liberty | 05.31.08 - 8:11 pm | #
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Oh I don't know. The line of coke I just snorted off of Condi's ass was purty darn good and I'm still alive hee, hee, that is unless Laura catches me in here with Condi.
George W. Bush |
05.31.08 - 8:58 pm | #
Monsieur has chosen to watch '13 Going on 30,' based upon his appreciation of Jennifer Garner.
I'm not sure I'm getting the attraction.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 05.31.08 - 8:29 pm | #
It's one of those movies my daughter and I enjoyed together. Jennifer Garner is marvelous in it...
doug r |
05.31.08 - 8:58 pm | #
The supreme court, choice, the war don't matter to them. Really?
Up to 6 Supreme Court justices may be picked over the next 8 years.
Stevens and Ginsburg retiring or dying will make abortion illegal in this country. Any person who would seriously vote for McCain in this situation is not a democrat.
trifecta |
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05.31.08 - 8:58 pm | #
Should the Cubs actually win the Series this year, there will be no election, because the world will end.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins | 05.31.08 - 8:54 pm | #
I actually predicted in early March that both the Cubs and Barack would win in the Fall.
Shared Humanity |
05.31.08 - 8:59 pm | #
You know, I'll bet Bush talks shit about McCain behind his back.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 8:59 pm | #
Should the Cubs actually win the Series this year, there will be no election, because the world will end.
Nah, that scenario was reserved for a pre-2004 Cubs/Red Sox series. You're safe now...
bill buckner |
05.31.08 - 8:59 pm | #
I'd never win the nomination. Too many people here think I'm a poser, and I have a history of swearing and waving dildos around in public. I'd go for ProfWombat.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 8:59 pm | #
beating his Canes because of "bad calls," I always remind him that a champ overcomes adversity and the really good champs don't put themselves into a position where a game is lost because of the refs
get outta my haid
just today i uttered these words, as younger son's team managed to beat both the other team and the umps. one of husband's mantras.
ErinPDX |
05.31.08 - 9:00 pm | #
TOBY YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE! WHAT DID YOU DO WITH FLUFFY? YOU BETTER NOT OF BURNED HER YOU LOSER YOU!
Tina Petzold |
05.31.08 - 9:00 pm | #
I'll start by nominating NTodd. He has more personal political courage than a lot of us put together.
That seems really off the wall since there was no way of knowing who they were for
Well, it is off the wall. I live in Michigan, and I voted uncommitted, and I'm Al Gore's biggest fan, so I trust you can understand that I have a vested interest in having all the votes counted. But how in the hell can you assign votes to a candidate when the will of the voters is unknown?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.31.08 - 9:00 pm | #
Oh I don't know. The line of coke I just snorted off of Condi's ass was purty darn good and I'm still alive hee, hee, that is unless Laura catches me in here with Condi.
George W. Bush
Er, Chimpy?
Condi ain't into males (I can't call YOU a man).
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 9:00 pm | #
Should the Cubs actually win the Series this year...
some fricken' Appellate Court would cite Bush v. Gore and reverse it ...
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focus, foreshadowed |
05.31.08 - 9:00 pm | #
"Got it. And it is valid but you can't hold press conferences and not allow the press in unless you're Bush."
Fox isn't part of "the press." They are a propaganda arm of the Bush White House.
Chichimec |
05.31.08 - 9:01 pm | #
I'll bet Bush talks shit about McCain behind his back.
The supreme court, choice, the war don't matter to them. Really?
Clearly not. All that matters is that a vagina is elected.
Sorry, but they can't be real. All the Hillary supporters here who have fended off the sexism and other bullshit on the threads for the last several months aren't about to toss Roe v Wade out with the bathwater. They're all on record supporting a Democrat. Their Democrat happens to be Hillary, but come November, their Democrat will be Obama (presuming he does close the deal). Anybody else is a liar.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 9:01 pm | #
Nothing against NTodd but ProfWombat would be great, although their is a whole host of females I would vote for.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 9:01 pm | #
You know, I'll bet Bush talks shit about McCain behind his back.
Well, of course he does. The Chimp thinks McCain is a chump because McCain actually earned an honorable discharge from the military.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
05.31.08 - 9:02 pm | #
fox smirking heads now speculating that rev wright can still be called on to hurt barack despite the divorce from the church
Tina Petzold? I had a lover once named Tina, but I never married her.
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 9:02 pm | #
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
I'm also betting that the fake pro-Hillary trolls are male.
Losers like Toby, pud and Dickyanka who couldn't care less about women's rights.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 9:03 pm | #
My brother Toby likes watching grown men shower, especially blackmen.
Tina Petzold |
05.31.08 - 9:03 pm | #
Clearly not. All that matters is that a vagina is elected.
Sorry, but they can't be real.
Wanna bet little boy
KKKarl Rove, Evil Genius |
05.31.08 - 9:03 pm | #
Well, I don't think you're a poser. And I'm serious about the courage thing. I admire street level activists as a dose of counterbalance to us couch potato philosophers.
(Not to take anything away from Prof Wombat of course.)
catalexis |
05.31.08 - 9:03 pm | #
"But how in the hell can you assign votes to a candidate when the will of the voters is unknown?"
That is the question and I think that it should be taken to the rules committee without fail so it doesn't happen now or in the future. Some of those old goats on the committee today must have been impaired as hell.
J. Barr |
05.31.08 - 9:04 pm | #
I care abt women's rights so long as I don't have to think of them as women's rights, but universal ones.
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 9:04 pm | #
Oh, and on the federal appeals courts 100 were appointed by Republicans, 67 by democrats.
A lot of those democrats are very old Carter appointees.
The courts will be completely fucked with a McCain win.
trifecta |
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05.31.08 - 9:04 pm | #
let's face it though.
wombat is both brilliant and hot, key ingredients
ErinPDX |
05.31.08 - 9:04 pm | #
"But how in the hell can you assign votes to a candidate when the will of the voters is unknown?"
Sounds like 2000 to me. Remember undervoting and all the other crooked shit the Gorebot was trying?
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 9:05 pm | #
and again:
The last time the Pens won the Cup
a Bush was President
a Clinton was running for office
we were at war with Iraq and
the Giants won the SuperBowl.
camelot, Go Pens |
05.31.08 - 9:05 pm | #
Why can't you apply that same sense of principle to others?
Tubby speaks of principle.
The kindest thing one can say about Tubby is that he's intellectually dishonest.
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05.31.08 - 9:06 pm | #
I care abt women's rights so long as I don't have to think of them as women's rights, but universal ones.
Yeah, because we all have vaginas.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 9:06 pm | #
Evenin' ina!
How's it goin'?
Oh, pretty good, thanks. I'm trying to decide whether I should go out and hear this band I like even though I have an enormous zit in the middle of my face. How's things with you?
Pretty good, I guess. The 5yo is having a tough time getting to sleep tonight... Wait... I think she finally dozed off. Whew!
whiskeyina |
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05.31.08 - 9:06 pm | #
Tina Petzold? I had a lover once named Tina, but I never married her.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 9:02 pm | #
Funny Toby. You haven't ever had a girlfriend unless you consider your hand, or the neighbors sheep that you ravage every night as a girlfriend. Oh and Toby incest and rape victims do not count either.
Tina Petzold |
05.31.08 - 9:06 pm | #
fucks news hannity show headline on barack's week:
"from arugula to auschwitz - why can't obama get his story straight?"
Remember undervoting and all the other crooked shit the Gorebot was trying?
You are so fucking pathetic.
Really.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 9:12 pm | #
I had never heard of undervoting until the Gorebot brought it up.
It's a thing related to statistical sampling, like how they want to run the Census to give Democrats more seats.
Toby Petzold |
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05.31.08 - 9:12 pm | #
Marcia Gay Harden as Ava Gardner.
Yah. Except, occasionally, I've been compared to Ava Gardner. Not Marcia Harden. And it is good.
People like Hannity use Mein Kampf as a "how to" book.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 9:13 pm | #
It time that women started to get some respect in this country...
Like McCain's FIRST wife?????
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 9:14 pm | #
Hey Democratic party, you are NOT going to just use my vagina and then throw it away for Hussein Obama. I'll vote for McCain if Hillary isn't given what is rightfully ours too.
Harriet Christian speaks for m
This is too silly to even reply to. I don't know why I even started typing. never mind...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
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05.31.08 - 9:14 pm | #
Should the Cubs actually win the Series this year, there will be no election, because the world will end.
Nah, that scenario was reserved for a pre-2004 Cubs/Red Sox series. You're safe now...
bill buckner | 05.31.08 - 8:59 pm | #
Well, if the Pale Hose get to the Series as well and face the Cubs, that'll world-ending as well.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
05.31.08 - 9:14 pm | #
This is too silly to even reply to. I don't know why I even started typing. never mind...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
The only vagina that troll has is the one on its "Real Girl" doll.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal |
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05.31.08 - 9:16 pm | #
Tubby's claim to fame is that he can suck a golf ball through a 100 foot length of garden hose in under 5 seconds.
billy b |
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05.31.08 - 9:16 pm | #
The women's rights issue pissed me off in this country. The ERA Amendment initiative was when I have a junior in high school, and I'm gettin' kind of old now.
WTF is wrong with us? Wht is recognizing women as equals such a big fucking hurtle? I'm getting impatient in my early late middle age.
MP |
05.31.08 - 9:16 pm | #
I didn't realize until today's hearing that at least a dozen states had applied to the DNC's rules committee to be permitted to hold their primaries (actually one primary, one caucus) in the pre-Feb 5 window.
The committee selected Nevada and South Carolina, but Florida and Michigan went ahead on their own.
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05.31.08 - 9:20 pm | #
I had never heard of undervoting until the Gorebot brought it up.
It's a thing related to statistical sampling, like how they want to run the Census to give Democrats more seats.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 05.31.08 - 9:12 pm | #
you're full of shit, to overflowing.
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05.31.08 - 9:21 pm | #
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05.31.08 - 9:21 pm | #
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05.31.08 - 9:26 pm | #
I had never heard of undervoting until the Gorebot brought it up.
It's a thing related to statistical sampling, like how they want to run the Census to give Democrats more seats.
Nope. It's when people vote for every other fucking thing on the ballot but somehow forget to vote for Preznit.
And if you think we can actually count every American manually in 10 years, be my guest.
NTodd, Pink Poseur |
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05.31.08 - 9:29 pm | #
Well, I can't deny that. We're a bunch of retards. Still, we're very nice. And we like cake. So top that.
vacuumslayer |
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05.31.08 - 10:59 pm | #
Um, Doesn't your candidate need our sucky votes?
Moi;) |
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05.31.08 - 11:06 pm | #
yeah they TOOK votes from one candidate and gave them to the other...sound familiar?who sucks?DNC,repugs it seems to be all the same anymore...
john |
05.31.08 - 11:13 pm | #
BTD is over at talkleft either pretending or actually not knowing that "your candidate sucks" has been a long running non partisan snark here for eons.
... and all of the comments demonstrate just as much cluelessness!
sam |
05.31.08 - 11:30 pm | #
Chcuk Baldwin's supporters suck with their fear of the gay and women's privacy
jr |
06.01.08 - 12:02 am | #
Today was total, unadulterated bullshit. Count me a Democrat who's now officially in the "Undecided, up for grabs". And I don't want to hear another fuckin' reference from DNC officials about Florida 2000. We deserved to have it taken away, with you as our leaders. This time, we don't have to worry, because you've given it away, five months in advance.
I'm fifty years old, and the Democrats have won a mere five national presidential elections in my entire lifetime. The last time the DNC took earned delegates away from one candidate to give to another was in 1972, when the committee stripped Hubert Humphrey of his California delegates and awarded the entire Golden State contingent to George McGovern, effectively ending what was to be Humphrey's final national campaign. Remember how well that worked out for everyone?
And keep insulting Mrs. Clinton and her supporters. Continue to accuse her of wishing for Obama's death, and call the rest of us deranged. Yeah, that's the ticket to bring us all into the fold!
You know, there's something truly liberating in the realization that while you all definitely need our votes to succeed, we most assuredly do not need either you or your compromised candidate. Now, who did you say is better than who?
Darryl in Harmony, MN |
06.01.08 - 8:02 am | #
I think you should vote for McCain. If 8 years of GOP rule of the WH wasn't enough to correct your kind of stupid, I think there is little you can add to the party anyway.
akaison |
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