I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

HA!


McCain in the membrane,
McCain in the brain!


Sorry, your comment about the weather cause a weird word-association thingy.


Gravatarsteve: you may be right. But Mitt strikes me as all too recognisable a business type, talking about 'his' success in an environment empty of others' labor, talking about paradigmatic shifts of rightsizing internal customer friendly outside-the-box self-serving crap, to generate much enthusiasm amongst even a jaded and ill-informed electorate.

That, and he's a poopy-head...


GravatarI suppose at some point I'll step downstairs and let the peeps know there are sheets.


GravatarHere they come.


GravatarMind, I do have a few stories posted at my place that might be of interest to crumbling-empire-watchers.


Gravatarfirst cuppa this morning... brain is barely awake. Good morning to you all.


GravatarI've already moved on to wake-n-bake.


GravatarIt's amazing how those Iranian weapons are always so nicely labelled.


GravatarTraditional protest marches favoured for decades by placard-wielding demonstrators are being shunned by campaigners as they switch to alternative action, new police statistics show.

Although thousands of environmental activists will march through central London today to highlight global warming, numbers of street demonstrations are in sharp decline. The City of London Police, responsible for the Square Mile, has disclosed that the number of demonstrations it has policed has almost halved in just two years.

The City, with its large number of financial institutions and corporate headquarters, is a long-standing target for anti-capitalists and animal rights activists. In figures supplied under the Freedom of Information (FoI) Act, the force said it handled 64 marches, protests and pickets last year, compared with 117 in 2004 and 74 in 2005.

The Government has brought in curbs on demonstrations within 1km (half a mile) of Parliament Square and on "designated sites" such as military bases. Although the measures would not directly affect the City of London, civil liberties groups said ministers had sent out an implicit message deterring protesters.

Jago Russell, Liberty's policy officer, said: "Politicians speak of reinvigorating politics while restrictions on peaceful protest, the lifeblood of democracy, are recklessly curtailed. "The ban on protest might only apply within a kilometre of Westminster, but the message travels much further."


http://news.independent.co.uk/ uk...icle3233343.ece


GravatarBacteria that eats methane!

http://www.interestingthings.org/


Gravatarthe weather in Devizes has been totally crap all frigging day

rain, rain and yet more fucking rain along with strong winds

its depressing weather which makes you want to curl up and drink lots of cups of tea

I hate this weather!!!!!!


GravatarWWZD? (What Would a Zombie Do?)


Gravatara few stories posted at my place that might be of interest to crumbling-empire-watchers.
Avedon


That is an apt description of us...even if we don't realize it yet here in the US


GravatarOT, but what the hell

WASHINGTON — Embattled State Department Inspector General Howard Krongard submitted his resignation Friday, forced out for allegedly impeding ongoing criminal investigations into the construction of a new, $740 million U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and security firm Blackwater Worldwide.

another 'spend more time with the family' before jail time...


GravatarI don't come here for normal blogging


Gravatara few stories posted at my place that might be of interest to crumbling-empire-watchers.
Avedon

That is an apt description of us...even if we don't realize it yet here in the US
racymind


Plenty of us realize it...and also realize that the forces at work are too big for us to change. Which is why we just watch even though we can see the boat is about to be swept over the falls.


GravatarSunny, windless,in the 40s here on the Riviera of the North Atlantic; as nice as you've a right to in December.


GravatarNot a cloud in the sky here in Berkeley today. And oddly, that's a bit depressing to me, since we really need more rain.


Gravatar'afternoon, my friends.

Just finished putting up the tree.


Gravatarmelanie phillips: brand new conspiracy theories for 2008


Gravatarand its been cold

cold, wet and windy

sucky weather


GravatarIf you didn't follow the links at Avedon's, this is funny:

http://reaganrushmore.com/

Jack Kemp is a farging moron!


GravatarI don't come here for normal blogging
Nancy Willing | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:15 pm |


Good!


GravatarSunny, windless,in the 40s here on the Riviera of the North Atlantic; as nice as you've a right to in December.


ProfWombat |



12.08.07 - 12:15 pm | #

Central Texas is anticipating a high of 87* today in advance of a (relatively) cold front tonight.


GravatarNormal, normal. What is this normal?


GravatarWhat's a Melanie Philips, besides batshit crazy?

Melanie Phillips rejection of the new NIE has been a wonder to behold, as she extends her already extensive collection of conspiracy theories to include an anti-American, anti-Israel and anti-freedom cabal within the state department itself


GravatarIt ain't been snowin' today, for a change. I'm kinda resentful of that fact.


GravatarDepressed, are ya? Here, this'll cheer ya up!

Headphones, people, headphones! Unless yer alone...


GravatarWait, there was a demo today? In this weather? Gahhhh!

It's gale force winds and pissing down rain out there, not to mention the ominous clouds. I mean, there's already a fucking lake over the drain in my yard.

Who the fuck goes out in weather like this unless they're getting paid to be somewhere?


Gravatargoodbye moonbats

my niece is here, so must go be an aunt!


GravatarWasn't Phillips the one who described Soros as a Nazi collaborator, yet retains her job?


GravatarGreetings again, rational people.

:sigh:

Ruth is getting shrill. She is actually calling for impeachment.

Can you imagine?


GravatarBacteria that eats methane!

http://www.interestingthings.org/
Arkenor | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:12 pm | #

Unfortunately, it poops radioactive hydrochloric acid.


GravatarKITTEH!
.


GravatarWho is this Melanie Phillips person?


GravatarJP, Larry Elvis is really a beautiful kitteh. What are his stats now?
Can you give us a shot thta shows his size relative to an object?
He looks pretty big.


Gravatarmelanie phillips: brand new conspiracy theories for 2008
Moonbootica, Heterodox | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:15 pm | #


It's amazing what bullshit you can get away with if you have a posh Brit accent.

If she was an American, she'd be peddling that crap as a poster on Atlas Juggs.


GravatarRuth is getting shrill. She is actually calling for impeachment.
_

The pirate cat is shrill too.


GravatarIt's 79 degrees and sunny here in Houston. I'd share it with the rest of you if I could.


GravatarCentral Texas is anticipating a high of 87* today in advance of a (relatively) cold front tonight.

Not sposed to hit the Eastex till Wednesday. Pisses me off, 'cause I like it cold when I'm sick. Bafrobe, jammies, bankie, curl up on the recliner with my comfort foods. Hard to do in the heat. Bummer...


GravatarIt's amazing what bullshit you can get away with if you have a posh Brit accent.

If she was an American, she'd be peddling that crap as a poster on Atlas Juggs.
steve sime


wanna bet?


GravatarRuth is getting shrill. She is actually calling for impeachment.

In retrospect it becomes clear that one of the intents of the Clinton impeachment (other than obstructionism and general assholishness) was to diminish the seriousness of impeachment. They had to render it meaningless or nearly so to succeed with what they had planned. And to this extent they succeeded - in that impeachment is clearly not a severe enough punishment for the criminality we have witnessed over the past 7 years.


GravatarI would happily accept snow. I like snow. But this... it's so grim and dark and wet out there.


GravatarThe pirate cat is shrill too.
el


Hey, that pirate cat (Zooey) has my vote for Feel-Good Story of the Year. The kitty was attacked by a dog and Barry from AK spent a lot of time and $$$ pulling her through.

She can be as shrill as she wants to.


Gravatar(It is a good thing I have been trying not to care because if I did, I would be furious again. What is it with these god damned Democraps? They think that social spending is the cure for NOT stopping the war? That is simply stupid and offensive. IF we can stop the war and get the country out of hock, then we can talk about doing some of things that are necessary but FIRST we have to STOP the WAR! Why can't they understand this?)

Returning to my writing for a while


GravatarNot sposed to hit the Eastex till Wednesday. Pisses me off, 'cause I
like it cold when I'm sick. Bafrobe, jammies, bankie, curl up on the
recliner with my comfort foods. Hard to do in the heat. Bummer...


Elmer, PHD |


Homepage |
12.08.07 - 12:24 pm | #

TX weather does seem to screw with the best laid plans of the sick.


GravatarFor years, I've been begging all of you to put me out of my misery. WHY WON'T YOU LISTEN?!!

Please, kill me now.


Gravatartherealhellkitty: JP, Larry Elvis is really a beautiful kitteh. What are his stats now?
Can you give us a shot thta shows his size relative to an object?
He looks pretty big.


He's within a centimeter in height, at the shoulder, of Curly. I'd guess he weighs about 12-13lbs.

Photos: Cats are notoriously difficult to pose. I'll see if I can get him next to a yardstick.
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GravatarReturning to my writing for a while
DWD - Visiting from the 5th C | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:25 pm | #


Yeah, you go do that.


Gravatar Photos: Cats are notoriously difficult to pose. I'll see if I can get him next to a yardstick.

Disguise the yardstick as a newspaper you really want to read. He'll be sitting on top of it in no time.


GravatarTX weather does seem to screw with the best laid plans of the sick.

Sneaks up on the healthy, too. Ancient Coolie curse, "May you live in interesting climes"


GravatarIn retrospect it becomes clear that one of the intents of the Clinton impeachment (other than obstructionism and general assholishness) was to diminish the seriousness of impeachment. They had to render it meaningless or nearly so to succeed with what they had planned. And to this extent they succeeded - in that impeachment is clearly not a severe enough punishment for the criminality we have witnessed over the past 7 years.
Jennifer | 12.08.07


Yeh, wut Jennifer sed.


GravatarWWZD? (What Would a Zombie Do?)
Jennifer | 12.08.07 - 12:13 pm | #


Thanks for the link to the zombie glow in the dark dolls.

I sent that to my sister, and she said my nephews might be interested. (they're 25 and 21).


GravatarPhotos: Cats are notoriously difficult to pose. I'll see if I can get him next to a yardstick.

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Jeffraham Prestonian |


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12.08.07 - 12:26 pm | #

don't I know it. my cat's are really hard to photograph. I meant if he was next to the CPU or another common reference point.
Curly is a big boy that's some hefty cattage you have there


GravatarWell, here in the Paris of the Tri-State Metropolitan Area, it is currently clear and crips, circa 40s...

Might snow tonight....


Gravatarror, bite me.


GravatarIt's amazing how those Iranian weapons are always so nicely labelled

If those Iranians were smart, they'd label those weapons "definitely not from Iran."



GravatarAncient Coolie curse, "May you live in interesting climes"


Elmer, PHD |


Homepage |
12.08.07 - 12:28 pm | #

The climes they are a-changin and not for the better I'm afraid.


GravatarCats are notoriously difficult to pose.

Unlike a house or a bar.

Or baklava.


GravatarIf those Iranians were smart, they'd label those weapons "definitely not from Iran."

Certified Mutant Enemy




Gravatarror, bite me.
DWD - Visiting from the 5th C


NO FLIRTING!


GravatarAnybody here want to see a photo of MY pussy?

Well, do ya?


Gravatar

Gravatarror, bite me.
DWD - Visiting from the 5th C


Thanks, but no.


GravatarIt's amazing how those Iranian weapons are always so nicely labelled

If those Iranians were smart, they'd label those weapons "definitely not from Iran."


Certified Mutant Enemy


Jeez, how much would a case of those little "Made in Korea" stickers cost, anyway?


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=B...feature=related


GravatarJen: I disagree. Impeaching Clinton wasn't designed to trivialize the act. It was designed to render it, then and subsequently, an appropriate exercise in naked power politics, devoid of higher principle. That it failed is beside the point. So now, any impeachment action is presumed to be similar in motivation until proven otherwise, as if impeaching Bush and Cheney--and particulars of the indictment would make Nixon look like Lincoln--were nothing more than a Democrat's payback, rather than an attempt to deal with extraordinary crimes against the Republic.


GravatarAnybody here want to see a photo of MY pussy?

How about a wet pussy?


GravatarIt was designed to render it, then and subsequently, an appropriate exercise in naked power politics, devoid of higher principle.

Slight flaw in this theory. Impeachment is, by its nature, a political act. And of the two examples of it being exercised in our nation's history (Clinton, Johnson), both times it was an "exercise in naked power politics". The only justifiable time it loomed large, against Nixon, he resigned instead of face it.


GravatarHere's a swell photo of my hubby's spotted dick.


GravatarHow about a wet pussy?

Aw, crap.

I was hoping for porn.

[kicks stones.]


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GravatarI hate fundies of EVERY religion:


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...0507.DTL& nl=fix


GravatarIt seems to me that a good way to re-install the impeachment process as a way to remove those who are clearly harming the nation for their own goals is to take on this administration for its clearly illegal activity.

If that be "power politics", then bring it on.


GravatarIt's amazing how those Iranian weapons are always so nicely labelled
_

really nice typefaces, and in English too.


Gravatar(It is a good thing I have been trying not to care because if I did, I would be furious again. What is it with these god damned Democraps? They think that social spending is the cure for NOT stopping the war? That is simply stupid and offensive. IF we can stop the war and get the country out of hock, then we can talk about doing some of things that are necessary but FIRST we have to STOP the WAR! Why can't they understand this?)

DWD - Visiting from the 5th C


Have you heard about Ron Paul? He's running for president. Can I send you some literature?


If those Iranians were smart, they'd label those weapons "definitely not from Iran."

Certified Mutant Enemy


Oddly enough, Iran does manufacture many small arms for export. Those are generally labeled in the univeral language of English. Farsi isn't read or understood by many Arabs anyway, where as English is.


GravatarGiven that Reid has backed down on every single Republican filibuster (As Bernie Sanders said yesterday, 57! Fifty fucking seven, and it isn't even the end of the year yet!) I don't see much of a prayer of the Democratic leadership doing much about impeachment. We can shout all we want, but it just isn't going to happen.


GravatarSizing LarryElvis: This box is 9.5" tall x 12" wide x 6.5" deep.
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Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:42 pm | #


GravatarHave you heard about Ron Paul? He's running for president



ANTI-CHOICE.

DEAD to ME.


GravatarIf there is no accountability it will mean that we have descended into a two tiered justice system that unabashedly favors the rich and well connected. Openly and with no apologies or even a nod to the rule of law. This is why I really believe that the fuckers who have robbed this country of countless billions of $s and murdered over a million people have to pay at least the same price as a 16 y.o. caught with some crack. Quite simple really.


GravatarIn today's WP, Howell responds to the paper's phony article on the rumors that Obama is a muslim:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7120701799.html

I find it encouraging that ombudsman Howell had to respond & they even published a letter to the editors on it. This is a breakthrough for progressives in a conservative paper like the WP.


GravatarJen: I disagree. Impeaching Clinton wasn't designed to trivialize the act. It was designed to render it, then and subsequently, an appropriate exercise in naked power politics, devoid of higher principle. That it failed is beside the point. So now, any impeachment action is presumed to be similar in motivation until proven otherwise, as if impeaching Bush and Cheney--and particulars of the indictment would make Nixon look like Lincoln--were nothing more than a Democrat's payback, rather than an attempt to deal with extraordinary crimes against the Republic.
ProfWombat


Outside of recent history, there is the simple issue of precedent: how do we define, historically, "extraordinary crimes against the republic"?

Politics I disagree with? Then Broder has a point: partisanship means the Great Experiment fails as we fall into parochial squabbling, each region and group demanding its voice be heard above all others. For the same reason, we never prosecute a former President for crimes in office, because "crimes" is a term defined by those in power, not by an ultimate outside power above the political fray.

So if Bush is guilty of crimes, what's to keep a Dem from later being "guilty of crimes." But not crimes that simply mean removal from office; crimes that bring down the full weight of the Federal gov't on an individual's back.

It seems a poor excuse for letting Bush get away with what he's gotten away with, but the real check is supposed to be a Congress that demands respect for its own power, not a "club" where all the members want to get along. With the latter, the only recourse left is justice against the guilty, whether in or out of office. But that too soon turns into retribution when the other side gains power.

Which means the system is broken and can't be fixed; or it won't be fixed until better representatives are elected. Either way, it's a very bad situation, indeed.


GravatarHave you heard about Ron Paul?

Gold standard, bitches.


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GravatarHuckabee the Health Nanny [Jonathan Adler]

In 1992 Hucakbee supported an AIDS quarantine, despite the lack of any real public health justification for such a step. Today he supports a federal smoking ban in public places. This causes me to wonder: Is Huckabee willing to throw the idea of limited government out the window any time there is a plausible (or even not so plausible) public health argument for doing so? What does it mean when he says it is the government's "responsibliity" to create a "culture of health," and that there should be federal legislation pushing employers encourage healthier lifestyles among their employees? It is often noted that Huckabee brings the fervor of a convert to health issues because of his own health turnaround — and that is what worries me.


So the nuts in a jar on his desk don't bother you?


GravatarAssclowns #67- On the Campaign Trail of Tears Edition is up. On the spit this week:

The Bush administration
The US Army
The CIA
Mitt Romney
Mayor Rudy
all this and much, much more.


Gravatarpuppethead: the Johnson impeachment, as such an exercise, was the governing cautionary example, and his acquittal a celebrated event as a renunciation of the use of impeachment as power politics. And Johnson was impeached, however justly or unjustly, for a duly enacted law's violation.

Nixon resigned when he was told he'd be impeached, that he didn't even have Republican votes to stop it. Such was the opprobrium attached to the use of impeachment that even Nixon didn't want to provoke its application. And Nixon would have been impeached for involvement in criminal operations against political enemies.

The Clinton impeachment, on the most trivial of grounds, can't be seen as anything else but power politics, and, possibly, as partisan revenge-taking with Nixon's impeachment in mind.


GravatarNaked power politics:

When in the majority, demonize your opponents when they even begin to start to think about murmuring about maybe filibustering. Threaten to abolish it altogether.

When in the minority, use it not on rare occasions to block a bill you find particularly abhorrent, but to block every single bill you disagree with, effectively altering the majority rules principle.

(NB: Only effective if opponent is willing to back down on every occasion.)


GravatarI think this country needs to see Bush and Cheney impeached even if it comes after they leave office. The historical record needs to show they were guilty of crimes against this nation.


GravatarDammit all!

All of it.

All.


Gravatarqlª | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:43 pm | #

:standing ovation:


GravatarOutside of recent history, there is the simple issue of precedent: how do we define, historically, "extraordinary crimes against the republic"?


Which is why dozens (IIRC) of constitutional historians signed a letter to congress telling them that the Clinton impeachment was entirely out of whack with what the founders intended. They, of course, were dismissed as bloody librul intellectuals.


GravatarANTI-CHOICE.

DEAD to ME.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch


I know. I was goofing on DWD. He sounds like a friggin' Pauliac.

Pictures of real Iranian small arms with English markings from an Iranian arms sale event:

http://www.iranmilitaryforum.com...iles/ 12_850.jpg

We all jump to wrong conclusions about a great many things.


GravatarThe Clinton impeachment, on the most trivial of grounds, can't be seen as anything else but power politics, and, possibly, as partisan revenge-taking with Nixon's impeachment in mind.
ProfWombat


I don't dispute that. But I think you're mixing motivation and results when thinking about the Clinton impeachment versus the Johnson one. Both Johnson and Clinton were acquitted, indicating that both examples were a repudiation of trivial use of the process.

If you read your statement on Johnson's impeachment, the same could be said about Clinton's acquittal. I think it's easier for us to see the naked partisan motivations for the impeachment we lived through, but from all I've read the Johnson impeachment was driven by an equally petty grab for power as Clinton's.


GravatarI think this country needs to see Bush and Cheney impeached even if it comes after they leave office. The historical record needs to show they were guilty of crimes against this nation.
puppethead | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:46 pm | #



Agreed. And the way to make sure this happens is obvious -- we MUST elect a DLC president.


(Hey it's Saturday -- I'm allowed).


GravatarDammit all!

All of it.

All.

It's what I keep saying.

Yes.


.


GravatarANTI-CHOICE.

DEAD to ME.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch


A Liberfuckingtarian anti-choice? That does not compute...


GravatarWhich is why dozens (IIRC) of constitutional historians signed a letter to congress telling them that the Clinton impeachment was entirely out of whack with what the founders intended. They, of course, were dismissed as bloody librul intellectuals.
sdf (Stu), ASR #776,683


Which proves they don't define "extraordinary crimes against the republic." Or even "high crimes and misdemeanors." The Congress does.

And that's the problem. There is no third party that arbitrates such a matter, and no real brake on a Congress hell bent on the kind of partisanship we've seen from the GOP Congresses of late. The only response seems to be to promote an equally partisan Democratic Congress; which just swings the pendulum in the other direction.

At which point David Broder starts to seem sensible....


GravatarWeather? It's lovely as I drive across the middle of Teh Wang™.

probably about 80°F. and sunny.


Gravatar...and what the wholly fuck is Hoyer doing by yapping to the WaPo editorial board?

I really, really don't have the patience for this crap today.


GravatarBut hey! We were right about the Iranian nukes! One out of two ain't bad. Beats the 1% doctrine, don't it?


GravatarJP, thanks for the shots those are some good lookin' boyz.


Gravatarknow. I was goofing on DWD. He sounds like a friggin' Pauliac.

Nah, he just ain't too bright, is all.


GravatarThe Clinton impeachment, on the most trivial of grounds, can't be seen as anything else but power politics, and, possibly, as partisan revenge-taking with Nixon's impeachment in mind.

No "possibly" about it - Henry Hyde admitted that Clinton's impeachment was, at least in part, revenge for Nixon.

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GravatarSinf,

It's a balmy ZERO here right now.


GravatarHeh.

Thanks, Avedon.

Ruth will be thrilled.


GravatarANTI-CHOICE.

DEAD to ME.
Terry C - Democratic Bitch

A Liberfuckingtarian anti-choice? That does not compute...
Elmer, PHD


Not only anti-choice, but wants to confer personhood on blastocysts from the moment of conception.

America doesn't need that shit.


GravatarHenry Hyde admitted that Clinton's impeachment was, at least in part, revenge for Nixon.

---
MasterD, damn yankee



Hope Henry is having fun in hell with Ronnie, Caspar, Jerry Falwell and Joe McCarthy.


GravatarWe are getting a heat wave here this week. Mid 60's today and tomorrow, low 70's on Monday. It was 44/25 yesterday.


Gravataran anti-American, anti-Israel and anti-freedom cabal within the state department

And the troubled shade of Joe McCarthy spreads its undead falsehoods again.


Gravatarstu & mrs. ibrahim - I might be in your area around 7-ish tomorrow evening, FYI. Could stop by for a bit ...


Gravatartherealhellkitty: JP, thanks for the shots those are some good lookin' boyz.

I luvz 'em, I do. I've never seen cats that are so eager to greet a person returning home. They're goofy.
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GravatarWe are getting a heat wave here this week. Mid 60's today and tomorrow, low 70's on Monday. It was 44/25 yesterday.
trifecta | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:54 pm | #


It's 11 here.


GravatarAnd that's the problem. There is no third party that arbitrates such a matter, and no real brake on a Congress hell bent on the kind of partisanship we've seen from the GOP Congresses of late. The only response seems to be to promote an equally partisan Democratic Congress; which just swings the pendulum in the other direction.

At which point David Broder starts to seem sensible....
Rmj, Anticipating Parousia |



And yet, as we have seen, even when the Democrats more or less unilaterally disarm, which is, more or less, how we might characterize what happens nine times out of ten when there is a real confrontation, Broder et. al. attribute the partisan squabbling to "both sides."

Given that the hyperpartisan, take no prisoners, we will demonize the filibuster as the majority and then use it an unprecedented number of times when in the minority, approach of the current GOP leadership is not going to change anytime in the next decade, Broder's "Why can't we all just get along" will remain a complete fantasy.

And his tendency to suggest that both sides are equally to blame just as disingenuous.


GravatarRon Paul has the most conservative (anti-progressive) voting record in the House. It's ridiculous that any progressive would consider him, even if he does speak truth to power.


Gravatarstu & mrs. ibrahim - I might be in your area around 7-ish tomorrow evening, FYI. Could stop by for a bit ...
Sinfonian, mobile blogger |


Sinf, very cool, why don't you drop me an email (at address on homepage).

Supposed to be 82 here today.


GravatarI luvz 'em, I do. I've never seen cats that are so eager to greet a person returning home. They're goofy.

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Jeffraham Prestonian |


Homepage |
12.08.07 - 12:55 pm | #

my kittehs do the same thing. they race the deer across the cul-de-sac and up to the house when I drive up. or they perch on the rocks near their dogs and just wait and wait. funny kittehs.


GravatarRon Paul has the most conservative (anti-progressive) voting record in the House. It's ridiculous that any progressive would consider him, even if he does speak truth to power.
puppethead | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:56 pm | #


He doesn't speak truth to power; he speaks libertarian insanity to anyone who will listen.


GravatarBetter proof:

http://www.diomil.ir/en/ amig.asp...ch_id=mb81smoke

http://www.diomil.ir/images/prod...g/ mor81high.jpg

It doesn't mean the "pictures" from our military sources are legit. In fact, I tend to discount anything from them, but Iran does use English markings.


GravatarI luvz 'em, I do. I've never seen cats that are so eager to greet a person returning home. They're goofy.

Ahh, there's the joy!
'


GravatarHow is it 11 in Oshkosh and only zero here?

Weather is fucked up.


Gravatar
I luvz 'em, I do. I've never seen cats that are so eager to greet a person returning home. They're goofy.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:55 pm | #


Awww.......


GravatarGiven that Reid has backed down on every single Republican filibuster (As Bernie Sanders said yesterday, 57! Fifty fucking seven, and it isn't even the end of the year yet!) I don't see much of a prayer of the Democratic leadership doing much about impeachment. We can shout all we want, but it just isn't going to happen.


Not that I disagree with the sediment, but the House gets first crack at it. Reid's not the problem here.


GravatarHe doesn't speak truth to power; he speaks libertarian insanity to anyone who will listen.
rorschach


He's not even a libertarian in the "classical" or original sense. He's a friggin paleocon kook. Like most paleos.


GravatarHow is it 11 in Oshkosh and only zero here?



Weather is fucked up.


Zap Rowsdower |


Homepage |
12.08.07 - 12:58 pm | #

snowglobe warming?


GravatarHoyer is a fucknozzle.

that's all I have to say about that.


GravatarHe doesn't speak truth to power; he speaks libertarian insanity to anyone who will listen.
rorschach


Exactly so.

Scratch a libertarian and you'll find a "I got mine, so the hell with the rest of you" person, usually of my generation.


Gravatar
Not that I disagree with the sediment, but the House gets first crack at it. Reid's not the problem here.
atablarasa | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 12:59 pm | #


The "sediment"?


Gravataror not the immediate problem, rather.


GravatarRon Paul has the most conservative (anti-progressive) voting record in the House. It's ridiculous that any progressive would consider him, even if he does speak truth to power.
puppethead


He doesn't speak truth to power; he speaks libertarian insanity to anyone who will listen.
rorschach


Yes indeed.


GravatarHe's not even a libertarian in the "classical" or original sense. He's a friggin paleocon kook. Like most paleos.
Ron Pauliac | 12.08.07 - 12:59 pm | #


Is he not? He strikes me as a textbook case.


GravatarAh, c'mon, Ror, word play... I do know the difference.


GravatarA Liberfuckingtarian anti-choice? That does not compute...
Elmer, PHD


Precisely.

Paleokook.


GravatarI have assumed that Ron Paul appeals to the same crowd that Alex Jones appeals to.

When I lived in Austin in the dark days of 2002-03 when a bad word about the Chimperor and His Great And Glorious War was almost impossible to hear, (and just before I discovered The Great Orange Satan and Atrios), I used to listen to Alex Jones on occasion out of the sheer pleasure of actually hearing somebody criticize the Preznit. Of course, he would immediately veer off into something utterly batshit insane, which tended to destroy the moment.

Ron Paul is very much in the same ballpark, as far as I can tell.


GravatarThanks Diane.


GravatarIts' the blimp, it's the blimp, Frank, it's the blimp!!


GravatarWell, it looks like the drizzle has stopped, so I have to go get some foodstuffs for the coming week.
bbl
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GravatarThe mothership, the mothership, the blimp, the blimp!


Gravataran anti-American, anti-Israel and anti-freedom cabal within the state department itself




I don't happen to believe that I am obligated to support Israel in order to be a good American and pro-freedom.


GravatarI gotta pay bills, back after a while.


GravatarRMJ: precisely why I've been yelling about the dire necessity of Congress reasserting its institutional prerogatives.

There isn't much precedent for impeachment; not a lot of case law, no attempt at consistency; no rational exploration of what would be called jurisprudence in other venues. So there's indeed an extent to which 'high crimes and misdemeanors' begs definition.

The notion of a government of laws, and not of men, thus seems fatally flawed with respect to impeachment. Precisely why principled, vigorous political opposition is called for, and far preferable to removal from office, much as I'd love to see it.


GravatarNot that I disagree with the sediment, but the House gets first crack at it. Reid's not the problem here.
atablarasa |


Well, in the immediate sense, yes, of course, you're right, but I think that we agree that the Democratic leadership is sadly united in its unwillingness to do anything "risky" and that is what I was riffing on.


Gravatarstu & mrs. ibrahim

Had absolutely no clue the two were related.



GravatarHe doesn't speak truth to power; he speaks libertarian insanity to anyone who will listen.
rorschach


It's a weird phenomenon. People who largely agree with Democrats but don't want to vote for them, so they vote for candidates who take Dem position but calls themselve something else (Schwarzenager, Ventura, Ron Paul, Bloomberg to some extent, Ross Perot, sort of). There are a lot of different causes for different people (taxes, boogeymen from the sixties, teh Gay, Democrats are girls, terr'rist-luvvers, whatever), all variations on a Tweety theme.

Oh for a rational, grown up electorate.


GravatarHuckabee said that AIDS patients should be "isolated" from the greater public when he was running for Senate?

Wow.


GravatarHad absolutely no clue the two were related.

qlª |



Heh, no, just live in the same town.


Gravatarlast christmas
i gave you my heart
the very next day
you threw it away


GravatarActually, if the subject was filibuster, that is Reid's balliwick, and blame for not calling the GOP's bluff falls on him.


GravatarAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Chimpy's Saturday radio address: The energy bill is a huge tax increase the American people don't deserve.

The sound of his voice pushes me to the teetering edge of sobriety.


GravatarIs he not? He strikes me as a textbook case.
rorschach


Well, we can get into the purity debate (which goes nowhere) but I try to go for precision. But you are correct, there are many of his pet issues that are of a "libertarian" flavor. Perhaps he's a paleo-libertarian. I choose to reclaim the term "libertarian" (originally coined by an anarchist communist) from the radical right wing anarchocapitalists that co-opted it. There is nothing pro-liberty about them. American libertarians are really propertarians. So, long story short, Paul is no libertarian.


GravatarIs there anyone left on the planet who doesn't believe Big Dick didn't get a hard on playing those tapes over and over again? Or that Commander Bunnypants didn't cradle Sadam's pistol between his legs to watch 'em every chance he got?

These are ultimately loathsome human beings!


GravatarActually, if the subject was filibuster, that is Reid's balliwick, and blame for not calling the GOP's bluff falls on him.
Avedon |


Xactly.

Shockingly, there are some who are actually starting to pay attention to it:

Senate Republicans closing in on Maris

Sixty-one isn’t only the single-season home run record that stood for decades until Mark McGwire started taking andro. It’s also the record for Senate filibusters during a single, two-year Congress, according to Senate Democrats.

Now Republicans are threatening that mark – and during their first year back in the minority. The vote this morning to block consideration of the House energy bill brings the number of cloture votes for the first session of the 110th Congress to 58.


That's right, they may break the two year record for filibusters in one year!


GravatarHuckabee said that AIDS patients should be "isolated" from the greater public when he was running for Senate?

Wow.
Zap Rowsdower



I'd like to isolate wingnuts from the greater public.


GravatarAlright! It's up to TWO degrees!!


GravatarActually, if the subject was filibuster, that is Reid's balliwick, and blame for not calling the GOP's bluff falls on him.
Avedon |


Some people are calling for a full on filibuster, not a cloture vote. I confess I don't quite understand the parliamentary distinction, but apparently Reid can force the GOP to do a full filibuster, to go on record as voting against increased CAFE standards etc.

I think he should.


Gravatar Is there anyone left on the planet who doesn't believe Big Dick didn't get a hard on playing those tapes over and over again?

Let's see...

The executions and trials were reportedly filmed and later reviewed by Hitler and his entourage.

Oh that was something different.


GravatarI choose to reclaim the term "libertarian" (originally coined by an anarchist communist)

Just call yourself an anarcho-syndicalist. There's no need for this particular word, which is all Ayn Rand-ized at this point.


GravatarNo argument about the Reid bending in the Republican wind, nor that the Democratic leadership in general has failed to stand up. I just wanted to give a thumpin' to the House, too.


GravatarAlright! It's up to TWO degrees!!
__

where's that?


GravatarOh that was something different.

not really


Gravatar(originally coined by an anarchist communist)

Ummm....

Not to parse, but there's probably been about five people in history that would claim to be such a thing; seeing that they kind of cancel each other out, and all.


GravatarI've been encouraged with the world's latest lurches, musharaff and chavez not walking away with the store, the CIA pulling the plug on chimp's Iran mythology.


GravatarJust call yourself an anarcho-syndicalist. There's no need for this particular word, which is all Ayn Rand-ized at this point.
rorschach


I'm just a garden variety social democrat with some of Chomsky's libertarian socialist thrown in for good measure. Chomsky labels himself as a libertarian socialist.


Gravatarel,

St. Paul, MN. Cap-City! Pig's Eye!!


GravatarI think he should.
Jim, Collieresque


Damn straight he should!

The WH has already decided to veto any such bill because Bush's corporate sponsors don't want it because the entire energy bill leaves in place the rights of states to mandate curbs on greenhouse gases.

Here is an ideal chance to show the electorate just who is currently calling all the shots in our lives.


GravatarNot to parse, but there's probably been about five people in history that would claim to be such a thing; seeing that they kind of cancel each other out, and all.
Zap Rowsdower


And one of them, a Frenchman no less, coined the term! And he didn't even get a dinner.


GravatarIf there were videotape showing, conclusively, that George W. Bush had sold to Putin the current CIA NOC list for several million bucks in a Swiss account...

...the next week or two, he'd be awarded the Congressional Medal of Freedom by Our Nancy and Our Harry.

And that's the way it is. We ain't gonna be rid of these swine till the third week of January, 2009. It sucks, but that's life.


GravatarMy political views resist easy identification with a few words, about which people endlessly argue the narcissism of small differences. Can't think of a bigger waste of time. By the particulars shall ye know them, rather than labels.

Yet again, definition as an intrinsically flawed operation...


GravatarDemocrats – who made liberal use of the filibuster threat when they were in the minority to block judicial nominees they found unacceptable – now accuse Republicans of obstructionism on the Farm Bill, the Alternative Minimum Tax and the war in Iraq, among other issues.


Piece was going pretty good until it got to the "but the Dem's did it first!" part...

As BobinATL pointed out in the comments, "Weren't the Republicans who were saying when they were in power that they wanted straight up and down votes on bills??"


Gravatar(originally coined by an anarchist communist)

Ummm....

Not to parse, but there's probably been about five people in history that would claim to be such a thing; seeing that they kind of cancel each other out, and all.
Zap Rowsdower |


Actually, Zap, that's not strictly true. Both Kropotkin and Alexander Berkman, among others, used the term.

I'm sure there's a wiki entry on it, hold on.


GravatarIt's so sunny!!!


GravatarBy the particulars shall ye know them, rather than labels.

Yep. And every self-proclaimed libertarian I've known overwhelmingly votes republican.


GravatarThat is, if this wiki entry is correct:

The first known use of a term that has been translated as "libertarian" in a political sense was by anarcho-communist Joseph Déjacque[18], who used the French term libertaire in a letter to Pierre-Joseph Proudhon in 1857.[19] The word stems from the French word libertaire (synonymous to "anarchist"), and was used in order to evade the French ban on anarchist publications.[20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Lib...rianism#History

I suppose I could submit the question to the fine folks at Rad Ref.

http://radicalreference.info/


GravatarI get so hot thinking of W cradling Sadam's pistol between his legs while he watches CIA snuff films.
woof! Jimmy Jeff


GravatarBerkman?

I'm not sure I'd pin any one label on old Sasha (as Emma called him).

Certainly had the anarcho prefix in most of his work.


GravatarWiki on Anarcho-Communism

And in fact Berkman's book What is Anarchist Communism? is online.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=F...feature=related

I somehow managed to miss this Eric Idle tune from '04 - maybe one or two of you missed it too


GravatarFWIW, I consider myself a non-theisitic left-leaning libertarian Liberal.

And I vote mostly Democratic.


GravatarAnd in fact Berkman's book What is Anarchist Communism? is online.
sdf (Stu), ASR #776,683 |


Sorry, should be What is Communist Anarchism.

There is of course a big difference -- Berkman was talking about a particular variety of Anarchism, not a particular type of Communism.


GravatarWiki on Anarcho-Communism

Thanks, sdf.

But "Libertarian Communism" redirects there, as well. Heh.

But I'll maintain that Berkman was all over the leftist map and ideologically hard to pin down.


GravatarShit! I just missed my exit!


GravatarI'm pretty sure Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse got his name from a discarded draft of a Kaufman/Hart play


GravatarI've been encouraged with the world's latest lurches, musharaff and chavez not walking away with the store, the CIA pulling the plug on chimp's Iran mythology.
el


We do have to keep on reminding ourselves that as bad as things are now, they were ten times worse just a few years ago. I would whisper when criticizing w, and that was in NYC. Now it has become a national past time.


GravatarUh oh. Sinf's resorted to live-blogging his errands!


GravatarShit! I just missed my exit!
Sinfonian, mobile blogger |


Did you get ONSTAR to blog that for you while you were driving?


GravatarI remember talk of repukkkes taking away the filibuster from dems because they had the nerve to use it - there are no Republicans anymore only repukkkes and repugnants - It's sad.


GravatarJust finished watching the Greenwald vid about war profiteers again. There are a lot of evil mother fuckers in our government and that includes most democrats including the leadership in charge of oversight and accountability.

I think I'll go spend time with the critters today. Humans are really pissing me off, most present company excluded.


GravatarHooray, Steny Hoyer's War in Iraq is going to be fully funded for another 365 days.

heckuva job, Steny!


GravatarErrands? No, I'm on an epic 300-mile journey today. Missing an exit on the Turnpike blows.


GravatarWell, I'm officially crabby.

Maybe The Hives will help me...


GravatarMy political views resist easy identification with a few words, about which people endlessly argue the narcissism of small differences. Can't think of a bigger waste of time. By the particulars shall ye know them, rather than labels.

Yet again, definition as an intrinsically flawed operation...
ProfWombat


This is true. What Russell Kirk said about libertarians is probably true about all political factions. The founders tried to avoid factionalism in our political life. It didn't quite work out but they did rather well aside from that.

Kirk (quoting T. S. Eliot) called libertarians "chirping sectaries," and "an ideological clique forever splitting into sects still smaller and odder, but rarely conjugating."

However, as Atrios himself has repeatedly said, factionalism, partisanship and disagreement isn't such a bad thing. It's just noisy and messy. Like sex. At least the way I do it.


GravatarPeople always call me a radical. However I am like the rest of America only sooner.


GravatarI was just listening to the seriously psycho Monica Crowley, who said that Barbra Streisand had been banned from the White House during the 90s after Hill found out that Bill had boinked Babs in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Has anybody ever heard that one before?

I mean -- WTF?


Gravatarstu, I'll email you later today. I just lost the email I was writing you.

Then you can forward to mrs. i if you like.


GravatarDid Bill boink Babs? I hope so.


GravatarWe do have to keep on reminding ourselves that as bad as things are now, they were ten times worse just a few years ago. I would whisper when criticizing w, and that was in NYC. Now it has become a national past time.
qlª | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 1:23 pm | #


Hasn't translated into the majority Democrats actually doing something about the fucker...


GravatarErrands? No, I'm on an epic 300-mile journey today. Missing an exit on the Turnpike blows.
Sinfonian, mobile blogger


Blogging while driving? Is that ethical? Is it even legal?


GravatarHas anybody ever heard that one before?

I mean -- WTF?
steve simels


This is a person who, at age twenty, developed a crush on an eighty-year-old Richard Nixon.

I shudder to think of the fetid, gaseous, monster-ridden emotional and psychological swamp that is that woman's soul.


GravatarTurnpike?

I've gotta get out more...


GravatarI heard that Streisand story years ago--and really don't much care whether it's true or not.


Gravatar300 miles epic? Sheesh...


GravatarHasn't translated into the majority Democrats actually doing something about the fucker...
steve simels


No, it has not.

But I haven't even gone to the vigil in the past couple of weeks. I just feel like there is no point. The vast majority of Americans want us out of the clusterfuck and for this administration to be out. But nobody is doing anything to effectuate those goals.


GravatarThe Iraqi people are returning to Bagdad because the Serge is working!!

Or not.

However, while their government claimed improved security was drawing refugees home, many Iraqis said they were leaving because they had no more money and their visas had expired.

“We have no money or work. It’s forbidden to work here and so we have to return,” said Saydy Abbas as she boarded one bus. “Of course, there are still problems with security in Iraq.”

A survey of 110 Iraqi families by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees found that only 14 per cent were returning because of improved security, while 46 per cent said they could no longer afford to stay in Syria, where the law prevents Iraqis from working.

A further 26 per cent pointed to Syrian visa regulations introduced on October 1 – immigration officials are now issuing Iraqis with exit stamps once their existing three-month visas have expired. Only those with medical requirements and children in Syrian schools are granted visa extensions.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d62221...? nclick_check=1


GravatarAnybody else happy that they're not driving on the same highway that Sinf is posting from?


Gravataratablarasa, I forgot my snark tag. I was being facetious about epic.


GravatarHowever, while their government claimed improved security was drawing refugees home, many Iraqis said they were leaving because they had no more money and their visas had expired.

Lebanon's letting them rot in prisons, and Jordan's allowing Iraqi girls to be sex slaves.

Thanks, GWB.


Gravatarand Jordan's allowing Iraqi girls to be sex slaves.

Ah, an even better ally than the "beat the rape victim to death" Saudis!


GravatarOK, time for me to curl up and listen to the Met's Iphegenie on the radio.

Later, folks.

(hell, I'm too excited to correct the spelling.)


Gravatarclick me and enter our Sweeney Todd contest - I can't guarantee that you'll win . .

or can I?


Gravatarerrands beckon.

Back in a bit...


GravatarHeh:

A series of six black and white prints on display in an unassuming corner of the New York public library have sparked controversy on the airwaves and blogosphere quite out of keeping with the dark, marble-lined corridor in which they are hung.

The prints show the mugshots, in the style of police arrest photographs, of main members of the Bush administration in the first few years of his presidency. There is President Bush himself, scowling into the camera, and a fierce, finger-pointing Dick Cheney.

Each of the "suspects" in Line Up, as the display is called, carry placards bearing a date. The artists, Nora Ligorano and Marshall Reese, have chosen the dates to refer to key speeches in which they believe the politicians incriminated themselves in front of the American people.

An audio tape runs beside the prints and plays the speeches as the prints come up in a slide show.

[...]

Tammy Bruce, a rightwing radio talkshow host, said: "At first I wondered who put al-Qaida in charge of the New York public library, but then of course remembered the American left is doing their bidding for them."


GravatarJust passed a very old and slow car bearing a "FRED 08" sticker.

How apropos.


GravatarI was just listening to the seriously psycho Monica Crowley, who said that Barbra Streisand had been banned from the White House during the 90s after Hill found out that Bill had boinked Babs in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Has anybody ever heard that one before?

I mean -- WTF?
steve simels


A lie. Like everything else out of the rightards' mouths.


GravatarThe sad thing about "revenge for Nixon" as motivation for the impeachment of Clinton is that Nixon DID indeed act in ways that caused even Republicans at the time to be appalled.

The petty partisan reaction to it by some Republicans (the ones who took over the GOP after Nixon's fall) indicates that not one of them puts country and constitution before their own little club of fascist dogshit.

Mind you, Johnson avoided conviction by a single vote. Clinton was never in serious danger of an actual aquittal...the ReThugs couldn't even muster a simple majority.


Gravatarer actual conviction.

Need more coffee.


GravatarWouldn't impeachment make Cheney the president?


GravatarThis is a person who, at age twenty, developed a crush on an eighty-year-old Richard Nixon.





Ronnie Reagan must have REALLY gotten her panties wet.


GravatarThe invasion of Iraq in 2003 by coalition forces led by the Americans and the British was welcomed by the Mandaean community who thought they would benefit from the promises of tolerance and democracy made by the political leaders of the invading armies. Mandaeans are a pacifist people, strictly forbidden by their religion from carrying weapons. The chaos and violence unleashed by the invasion has decimated their community – ordinary Mandaeans, their leaders and lay people have all been targets for assassination, kidnapping, forced conversion, torture, rape, expulsion and other forms of violence. Their temples have been targeted for destruction and their numbers have been reduced from an estimated 50,000 - 60,000 before the invasion to an estimated 2,500 - 5,000 today.


GravatarWouldn't impeachment make Cheney the president?





Officially.


GravatarThe petty partisan reaction to it by some Republicans (the ones who took over the GOP after Nixon's fall) indicates that not one of them puts country and constitution before their own little club of fascist dogshit.

Even worse, in my mind, are the ones who cling to the illusion that they're the real Republican Party and they just have to ride it out (Snowe, Shays... I guess their numbers are almost down to nothing), and the ones who seem to know that they're betraying the Constitution but just don't have the guts to do what's right--Hagel, Specter, probably a couple dozen more just in the Senate, who (in my estimation) think they can clean the mess up later, after a few thousand more deaths and god knows how many tortured. John Warner, cutting and running and rubber stamping policies that obviously disgust him as he shuffles out the door.


Gravatarif you really want to address war criminals please ... include that the british put a ton of canadian citizens on more than many ships and took them, ill of health or not, to the Gulf of Mexico and dumped their asses, to literally fiddle for themselves.

Apologize were later related in songs by Blindfaith etc ... as understanding their misery, rejoicing in their success at overcoming the tragedy that was their relocation, and asking but without permission to copy their music ... so much for muscle shoats! know what is happening while its happening, Mitt's kin killed the so called "indians" then dressed like them to assure a new religion in the region they had deemed their own. the deal was sealed by a clause in morn=manism that called for "blood atonement" that meant any race traitors would suffer the same fate. It was a show of power at the time. Time hasn't stopped


GravatarHmmm. Would milling around a crowded shopping mall make me feel better?

Doubt it, but I think that I have to go do that anyway. Later.


GravatarWouldn't impeachment make Cheney the president?

It would.

If you don't impeach and convict Cheney first.

Which is the plan.


GravatarIf you don't impeach and convict Cheney first.

And if bush appoints guilliani to take cheney's spot which makes it easier to continue terroist war bs?


GravatarHere comes the sun
dootn doo doo

just cooked for 6 lg teens, husb, bil and now they've all left the building to shoot hoops, guns, and their mouths. what do i do next?

naked housecleaning
play piano
rip out basement carpet
sit here in shock at the silence?


GravatarAnd if bush appoints guilliani to take cheney's spot which makes it easier to continue terroist war bs?


The Senate has to confirm the nomination of the replacement veep.

Don't vote to confirm whoever it is that El Fucktardo Maximo names.

Easy.


Gravatarit was all bright jewels and glittering sand


GravatarWhat does it take to make the call for impeachment overwhelming?

Easy. A Democrat president and a conservative-owned media.


GravatarDon't vote to confirm whoever it is that El Fucktardo Maximo names.

Cos that's worked real well so far.


Gravatardon't ever look over at the pathetic psychotic dope addict Lewis who killed who he wanted when he wanted ...including himself when he was called back to Washington to answer to congress


GravatarAlmost to my destination. Catch you patriotz laterz.


Gravatarso much for manifest destiny


Gravatarschool kids are regularly taught all about the Lewis and Clark journey but never told the circumstances (sugar coated Disney is all we get)


Gravatarunchecked this "non-education" breeds itself in a sustained Nazi entitlement


Gravatarwe have to impeach the cunts to show the world we're a nation of laws not a nation of men. God damn beltway bumpkins


Gravatarafter that it's easy for Rove ... have the piper call the tune of phoney religion and then make your barriers of what's acceptable ... everyone else dies to make the ones that are more comfortable and "secure".


Gravatarunchecked this "non-education" breeds itself in a sustained Nazi entitlement
Rudys Limp-On



"America the Perfect"


GravatarWhat can we do to make the call for impeachment overwhelming?

I think it made a huge difference out here with our congresscritters when we hit them repeatedly with impeachment at their August town hall meetings. Blumenauer went from "faggitaboutit" to "of course it is not off the table." A slight shift to be sure, but something that I'm convinced happened due to pressure in person from constituents. Everyone should call and find out when the next meetings are and attend, ask questions, bring signs and videocams.


Gravatarthey are murders and they will kill people you know if they haven't already ...


Gravatarql, I was thinking the same thing about Sinfonian. Get off that thing dude!


GravatarSilly Season is wacky enough and now you want to add the circus of impeachment hearings to the mix?


GravatarYeah, but will Earl go up to Nancy and say, "Jeez Madame Speaker, my constituents are really pressuring me about impeachment, they want blood, and if they don't get the blood of Bush and Cheney, they'll get yours first and then go on to them".

Not that Nancy has the brains to figure this out, I think. As far as I'm concerned, she and Reid are nearly as negligent in their oathes as Bush and Cheney.


Gravatarhttp://www.gratefulpalate.com/in...? p=Category_111

Lots of great bacon gift ideas at the Grateful Palate, including some very tempting Bacon Brittle which I may order for myself ...


Gravatarwe have to impeach the cunts to show the world we're a nation of laws not a nation of men. God damn beltway bumpkins
jr | 12.08.07 - 2:06 pm | #


Absofuckinglutely.

If these bastards aren't held accountable for their crimes, the next batch of bastards will feel totally free to do things so awful they will make us nostalgia for the current administration.


GravatarSilly Season is wacky enough and now you want to add the circus of impeachment hearings to the mix?
Ron Pauliac


Ah yes, accountability and due process. No one wants that!


GravatarYou are all crazy with BDS!


GravatarSilly Season is wacky enough and now you want to add the circus of impeachment hearings to the mix?
Ron Pauliac


If I can rip out carpet, clean house while naked, play piano, plant more bulbs, finish typing a report in one day, surely they can also multitask to save the Constitution. Rule of law.


GravatarIf these bastards aren't held accountable for their crimes, the next batch of bastards will feel totally free to do things so awful they will make us nostalgia for the current administration.

What will happen is people will get frustrated enough to say "the system is broken, fuck it, time to take some heads" and that will lead to the perfect opportunity for the rightards to kill this Enlightenment horseshit off for all time.


GravatarAh yes, accountability and due process. No one wants that!
madamab


I do see Glennzilla posting about that quite frequently. I have yet to see him call for impeachment. Maybe I missed a memo.


GravatarYou are all crazy with BDS!
Ron Pauliac


I'm sure you felt the same way when Clinton got impeached for a blow job.

Oh, wait....


GravatarHas anybody ever heard that one before?

I mean -- WTF?

steve simels

Uhm no. Crowley is a beast. Was it a meltdown moment? Eyes all glazed and lips moving furiously or just a casual "everyone knows" but never been proven wink wink gossip moment. Casual defamation of character fron the sociopathic class that thinks cross-cutting cleavages looked awesome at the Victoria's Secret show. May I say, in as shril a voice as possible, feh!


GravatarIf I can rip out carpet, clean house while naked, play piano, plant more bulbs, finish typing a report in one day, surely they can also multitask to save the Constitution. Rule of law.
ErinPDX


Hmmm? Are you single?


GravatarFACT: The Bush administration knew about the destroyed CIA tapes before the New York Times ever did.

FACT: In the recent past, the New York Times has held back stories, as well as gone forward with stories, after getting approval or disapproval from the White House first.

FACT: In the past, through their surrogate Judith Miller, the White House has used the New York Times to manipulate it's case for war and to attack those who oppose it's case for war.

FACT: Valerie Plame Wilson was deliberately outed by the White House to punish her and the CIA for hurting the Bush administration's case for war against Iraq.

FACT: At the start of this week, a National Intelligence Estimate was put forth by the intelligence community (with the CIA taking a key role) that greatly damaged the White House's current case for war with Iran and hurt Bush's credibility further.

FACT: By the end of the week, info about tapes destroyed by the CIA in 2005 is leaked to the New York Times. The CIA's credibility is now under attack.

Can you put 2 and 2 together? The facts add up to the Bush administration once again trying to 'Plame' the intelligence community, only this time they are outing a past mistake of the CIA's, not an undercover agent.


GravatarDon't get me wrong. They should all have been impeached 4 years ago, when I was screaming for it. Worse. But at this point it's like closing the barn door...


GravatarJohn Bolton compares US intelligence agencies to Hitler.


GravatarSilly Season is wacky enough and now you want to add the circus of impeachment hearings to the mix?
Ron Pauliac

Ah yes, accountability and due process. No one wants that!
madamab


Yes, it would be a terrible thing follow the Constitution, terribly disruptive to the public good.


GravatarCan yoou say "feh" in a shrill voice? I tried and can't do it.


GravatarBolton needs to be fed to the dogs.

(on edit)

I apologize profusely to dogs and dog-lovers everywhere for my previous statement.


GravatarSet the table, Nancy!


GravatarMy first magazine article evah: go to boxoffice.com, find the Click Here For Details in the left column (you'll see Subscribe!), register for FREE for the online digital version of the print edition (you'll get a confirmation email) and then get thee to page 14.

Forget blogwhoring, I've graduated to magazinewhoring

TADA!


Gravataruntil we do something ... or nothing baby sandwich sold for comfort ten feet tall... Happy rommate Hassert and happy happy new congressional pledge Mr Foley

Happy toe tappin' at the airport Larry!


GravatarYes, it would be a terrible thing follow the Constitution, terribly disruptive to the public good.
Jim, Collieresque


We can't even get the congresscritters to do the job of oversight. I'd settle for that at this point. Impeachment probably ain't going to happen. I've resigned myself to it. I'll just be glad to see them go.


Gravatarmadamab, I read that post - nice one.


Gravatarhalo just ate my comment

I've been married almost 2 decades now Pauliac, but thanks.


Gravatar


Gravatarthanks ErinPDX! I really like your idea of going to town halls and bombarding our congresscritters. It's one I haven't tried yet but will investigate further.


Gravataruntil we find to enable a government uncorrupted by power privilege sex money and a willing obfuscation, to deny an affected "faith" (oh dear I've said the same *ucking thing twice!) we really don't have anything that any other country or empire of the past have had before they fell. I saw a lion. he was standing alone. Sorta like the relic from "ancient Mesopotamia" that was sold for millions the other day. Isint that their national heritage?


GravatarWhen Dad said normal blogging was to resume later today ...


GravatarShrub steps down with Cheeeney to save the goopers.

They appoint Romney who ends the eyerack war on the basis of their failure to meet management objectives and cost overruns. We'd like to stay he'll say but it's just not cost effective.


Gravatarso much for manifest destiny
Rudys Limp-On

Americans have stopped thinking they're all working together in some grand experiment and have started acting like imperialist asshole murderers of the not so distant past

In the not so distant past it must be noted, Americans considered the Europeans and their penchant for war making to be syphilitic - and of course the US once reviled all the propaganda the USSR fed it's citizens for "the good of the country"


GravatarForget blogwhoring, I've graduated to magazinewhoring

TADA!
KBacon | Homepage | 12.08.07 - 2:22 pm | #


Mazel tov!


GravatarI've been married almost 2 decades now Pauliac, but thanks.
ErinPDX


With a list of talents and attributes like that I'd be surprised if you weren't.


GravatarBumper sticker seen last week:

"I feel better now that I've given up hope"

On a happy note, just back from a stroll around the lake where numerous otter slides were observed-- surfing on snow.


GravatarHeh I've been bookwhoring, with some actual, real effect. Email at address at homepage. Buying this book may help you win the UK lottery.*

(*Results not guaranteed.)


Gravatarssssssshhhhhheeeeetttttttssssss


GravatarCan you put 2 and 2 together? The facts add up to the Bush administration once again trying to 'Plame' the intelligence community, only this time they are outing a past mistake of the CIA's, not an undercover agent.
ErrinF

I kind of thought destroying the evidence order came from the whitehouse - and until they prove otherwise so did the order to torture in the 1st place


GravatarAtrios is home and covered in cat.


GravatarCompUSA, Falling to Competition, to Shut Down After Holidays
By Joseph Galante
Dec. 8 (Bloomberg) -- CompUSA, the computer retailer that Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim owned since 2000, will shut its doors after 23 years, succumbing to competition from Best Buy Co. and Wal-Mart Stores Inc.
Restructuring firm Gordon Brothers Group LLC bought the chain for an undisclosed sum and will sell or close its 103 stores after the U.S. holidays, CompUSA said yesterday. The 67- year-old Slim, Latin America's richest man, failed to turn around CompUSA after investing more than $1.5 billion in the chain over eight years.
``An orderly and expedited wind-down and asset sale process is the best option for CompUSA and its creditors at this juncture,'' Bill Weinstein, a principal at Gordon Brothers, said in a statement. Weinstein will serve as interim president of CompUSA.
Richfield, Minnesota-based Best Buy, the biggest U.S. consumer electronics retailer, had revenue of $35.9 billion last year. No. 2 Circuit City Stores Inc. had sales of $12.4 billion.
Boston-based Gordon Brothers' DJM unit helped Discovery Channel Stores, Bombay Co. and Winn-Dixie Stores Inc. sell properties. It plans to sell CompUSA's TechPro technical services division and CompUSA.com as well.

CompUSA will discount items this month to get rid of inventory, Alex Stanton, spokesman for Gordon Brothers, said in an interview. He declined to comment further.


Gravatarprolly something Pussy Britches England brought back for her boyfriend before her trial. (ciggy in mouth pointing toward mens gonads that I don't know but don't mind torturing ... means nothing to me and they said it was okay)


GravatarWhat does it tae fo impeachment?

It takes more than the current set of pussies (Emanuel, Feinstein, Boxer, Waxman, Leiberman, Conyers, Pelosi) that make up the democratic party can muster.

I hate to say but Dick Cheney is correct when he states that the Dems lack a big enough stick to take on BushCo. They have become the mommy party and they cannot deliver forceful discipline ever if they tried.


GravatarI'm fantasizing that the impeachment process is well under way and the Senate has to vote. The vote is a tie and cheney has the deciding vote. He votes to impeach because ambition has no rival. Heh heh.


GravatarNot that Nancy has the brains to figure this out, I think. As far as I'm concerned, she and Reid are nearly as negligent in their oathes as Bush and Cheney.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Unquestionably so. They are enablers and have been for some time.


Gravatarwe have to impeach the cunts to show the world we're a nation of laws not a nation of men. God damn beltway bumpkins
jr


Should have been done a year ago. At this point it'll never happen while the prick is still in office.


GravatarI'm in my 40's and I can tell you, even in this short amount of "historical" time, things don't get more just. What is happening is things are getting more controlled and managed. For example, it is now almost inconceivable that a student movement could occur here, as it did in the sixties. And if not the "students" then who? The bloggers? (ROFLMAO) The military? The grass roots, ha ha ha? Don't even mention the Democrats paleaze. All you Democrats on these threads, you aren't really demo's anymore, you are outside the tent folks.


GravatarThe Bush administration knew about the destroyed tapes and most likely leaked the info to the New York Times so as to retaliate against and punish the CIA for it's involvement in the NIE that hurt the president and his march to war with Iran.

So, after the Valerie Plame scandal, are we going to really pretend that the administration is above such devious tactics? Did the Plame scandal not matter at all? You'd think the lesson learned would be to question any leaks made to the press or public that have the deliberate goal of punishing or putting a chill on the intelligence community. And yet, so soon after the Plame outing and the legal circus that followed, here we have a CIA-damaging leak being given to the New York Times within days of the NIE being put out first, a NIE that the CIA undoubtedly had a heavy role in. And yet where are the investigative journalists asking if this destroyed tape leak isn't just Valerie Plame redux? Where is the cry from the left (from a blogosphere that is supposedly politically savvy) asking if this is not just the Bush administration up to it's old tricks? I see little if any mention of such a possibility in the mainstream media or the alternative media.


GravatarJennifer... don't consider impeachment as punishment. It's not. It's the first step toward removal from office. It's a start. Punishment can follow. (barring Presidential pardons).


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