I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
First and Carville's an ass!
yikes.
Wow, that's never happened to me before.
Tough talk, 'gator.
you'd think it would be a bigger deal that one of the contractor companies who snooped on Obama's passport is headed by one of his national security advisers.
Obama did not play the Wright issue well, and has lost his 'hope' and 'change' message.
WTF?
“An act of betrayal,” said James Carville, an adviser to Mrs. Clinton and a friend of Mr. Clinton.
A statement worthy of a Bush acolyte.
Bugs, I'm not here to answer your questions or mend your corroded moral sense. I was born white in the segregated South, yet every black person I knew was good of heart, honest and truthful and decent. It bothered me to see people forced to use separate water fountains and rest rooms, to be refused service in diners and cafes. I want that kind of stuff to end --once and for all.
plantsman
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It has ended, didn't you get the memo?
afternoon moonbats 
in our garden we have a Judas Tree
I'm off to work, folks. Have fun and don't play with Bugs.
Obama did not play the Wright issue well, and has lost his 'hope' and 'change' message.
You don't know WTF you are talking about. Watch yesterday's speech.
As if we needed further confimation of Carville's assholiness.
Boy, these Clinton spokespeople just ooze class, don't they?
Name:
'Cercis' derives from the Greek 'kerkis', a word for this tree. 'Siliquastrum' relates to the pods or fruits (siliqua), which have partitions.
In France this tree was known as the tree from Judaea (l'arbre de Judée), an area in the Middle-East. Some say that Judas tree is therefore a corruption of 'Judaea tree', whereas others connect it to a legend that Judas Iscariot hung himself on this tree after betraying Christ and ever since its spring flowers have been a deep rosy-red.
http://www.the-tree.org.uk/Briti...lery/
judasc.htm
we've had it in our garden for years,
It has ended, didn't you get the memo?
Bugs | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:07 am | #
it hasn't but wth y8our head so far up your ass, you couldn't be expected to know that, racist.
JR-- my informant tells me that the ships going to the Persian Gulf are stopping en route at the notably land-locked Czech Republic, so take it with a grain of salt. I check the sailing schedule...
I saw it end when Democrats and NE Republicans ended it. But the silent fears and hatred didn't go away -- you're living proof of that.
Boy, these Clinton spokespeople just ooze class, don't they?
DWD | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:09 am | #
And yet, if the Clinton administration had had the courage to play mafia don with their enemies on the right instead of just with their base, W would never have become president.
Hey, don't call sheets or anything!
Our North American native Cercis are known as "Redbuds" here.
Has anybody seen the "Iraq puppy" comotion?
Does all those pissed off people mean that they don't support the troops anymore?
One puppy? (yes, the most fucking horrible video I've seen this month)
But 1 puppy? That's what it took for an outrage?
Hillary's got the DTs!!1!
Oh noes! Can haz braincell plz?
JR-- my informant tells me that the ships going to the Persian Gulf are stopping en route at the notably land-locked Czech Republic
Urf?
Maybe they mean airships. Is your informant really, really old?
rootless-e,
You know, what really surprises me in all of this has been the Clinton Camp's silence on the race issue.
But that has been kind of the way it has gone this year, hasn't it?
And yet, if the Clinton administration had had the courage to play mafia don with their enemies on the right instead of just with Obama and anyone who supports him.....
the wingers won't understand carville's remark because to them, either bush or petraeus is Jesus.
Re: Carville
Great to see someone from inside confirm it's all about the circle-jerk Bush-type loyalty.
Carville's reaction is just one more nail in the coffin. All Hill's bunch, including Bill, are doing now is wildy flailing away.
They can't come to the realization that they were beat before they started.
But 1 puppy? That's what it took for an outrage?
Steve
Puppycide gets the public's attention.
SWAT teams can kill men, women and children in "wrong door" no-knocks, but as soon as they kill the dog... HEADLINES!
So far as I can tell, it's just a bunch of shit. I'll call the Navy Monday and ask them.
“An act of betrayal,” said James Carville, an adviser to Mrs. Clinton and a friend of Mr. Clinton.
“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.
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I agree!
So Hillary is Jesus Christ? Odd that.
One puppy being hurled to its painful death by a US Marine on video, yes.
dead animals always tug at the heatrstrings more than dead humans it seems
which is quite sad actually
Hey Bugs,
Aren't there some little children playing down at the playgroud for you to molest?
Well, there's no way the public will by that the puppy was planning to blow up a convoy.
They can't come to the realization that they were beat before they started.
billy b |
I agree. They don't understand the ground has shifted beneath them, and they are now utterly irrelevant. I don't exactly what's happening down there, but whatever it is, it's exciting as all hell.
The callousness and inhumanity of the act WERE shocking, to me.
Dr. Noor Al-Deen Al-Rubei'i, general secretary of the Scientific Research Councils, head of the Research Academy, and the well-known Iraqi scientist in the field of nuclear technology, said that the American invasion of Iraq aimed at destroying Iraq's future by assassinating and liquidating its scientists, burning its scientific volumes in the research centers, which constituted of the substance of scientific researches of 10 billion dollars.
Dr. Rubei'i added that 80% of the assassinations targeted those who worked in the universities, half of them hold the title of professor or assistant professor. He said that half of these assassinations were in Baghdad university, then Basra, Mosul, al-Mustansiriya, and that 62% of them hold a PhD, and that one third of them are specialized in sciences and medicine.
(snip)
This is proved by the fact that Iraq lost 5500 of its scientists, since the Anglo-American invasion in April 2003,the majority of them immigrated to Europe, eastern Asia, and Arab countries. The rest were assassinated. The Iraqi scientists learned the lesson. After the kidnapping of Dr. Ali Mhawish, the dean of the College of engineering in Al-Mustansiriya University, and the finding of his body. They realized that they live in an atmosphere that they never experienced since the fall of Baghdad by the Moguls, in 1258…There are other academics who received letters containing bullets. Five professors in the medical college asked for a long leaves out side Iraq because of such letters.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4227...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Donald Duck, Just how old are you?
What's this puppy thing?
hey Bugs:
I have a feeling you have this strange talent (in addition to being a child molester.)
I bet that if I gave you a Lifesaver to sit on, you could tell me what flavor it was.
The callousness and inhumanity of the act WERE shocking, to me.
plantsman
We understand on a basic level, that if you can do that to a puppy, you are a monster.
It shorts-circuits all the spin.
Carville accidentally hits upon the whole problem with Hillary's campaign.
pointing out someone is mathematically eliminated is comparable to Judas to the follically challenged beltway bumpkin
I agree. They don't understand the ground has shifted beneath them, and they are now utterly irrelevant.
pm carpenter has a nice take on that, my friend.
The callousness and inhumanity of the act WERE shocking, to me
plantsman
Exactly, I almost throw up.
But I mean... the amount of dead Iraquis and dead soldiers... Jesus Christ...
“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,”
Hannity writing carville's stuff these days?
3 Marines were walking by a small cliff, one cradling a puppy in his hands. As the camera videos, the Marine hurls the puppy over the cliff.
You hear it yelp on impact before it dies.
aimed at destroying Iraq's future by assassinating and liquidating its scientists, burning its scientific volumes in the research centers, which constituted of the substance of scientific researches of 10 billion dollars.
And we need a Bush library why?
i guess if they can kill a puppy then they have no qualms about killing humans
very worrying
"My Pet Goat" needs a bookcase.
Donald Duck, Just how old are you?
Bugs | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:16 am | #
Why is that an issue, Bugs? The question is, why are you such a hateful ignorant racist? That's the question. Any explanation?
And yet, if the Clinton administration had had the courage to play mafia don with their enemies on the right instead of just with their base, W would never have become president.
rootless-e | 03.22.08 - 10:10 am | #
That's what gets me about Clinton supporters that defend their sleeze tactics by saying the Clintons "know how to win," or "know how to fight."
Problem is, during the past sever years, I've never seen them fight the Bushies or right wingers. It's only people to the left of them that they fight using no-holds-barred tactics.
i guess if they can kill a puppy then they have no qualms about killing humans
very worrying
Moonbootica, Employed
Well, theoretically it was just that one guy. But still... It somewhat points out the climate, it's the foam on the brim of the cup.
Problem is, during the past sever years, I've never seen them fight the Bushies or right wingers. It's only people to the left of them that they fight using no-holds-barred tactics.
Bill needs a golf partner.
Shut up Carville. Your 15 minutes have been over for years.
I used to enjoy you and your wive's theatrics, oh, maybe 12 years ago. But you both have done enough damage with your HUGE egos. Go away
Gah, I fucking hate Carville.
That's it. I'm in.
OT: The government faces mounting dissent over controversial embryo laws after the Archbishop of Cardiff joined calls for a free vote on the legislation.
The Most Reverend Peter Smith has advised MPs to vote against a bill which allows the creation of hybrid human-animal embryos for research.
He joins other leading Catholics and Catholic MPs demanding to be allowed to vote in line with their conscience.
But Health Minister Ben Bradshaw said it was right to push through the law.
Mr Bradshaw told the BBC the legislation would be "to the potential benefit of many people in this country".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne...ics/
7309445.stm
Well, theoretically it was just that one guy.
Steve
There's videos from a while ago of US troops randomly shooting Iraqi dogs and laughing.
So, not "just one guy".
The Winter Soldiers talked about a lot worse than puppies.
That's it. I'm in.
Molly Ivors
You are welcome. It is kind of nice here. No one is hating on anyone.
Ummm, why are their dogs in Iraq? Don't Muslim's think they're unclean, or something?
Yeah one would imagine. But I (like to) believe most are still on the sane aspect of the insanity.
OT: no shit sherlock - Bad behaviour in schools is being fuelled by "overindulgent" parents who don't know how to say no to their children, according to new research. Teachers are dealing with a "small but significant" number of pupils who throw tantrums in class if they don't get their own way, turn up exhausted because they stay up late and have increasingly "belligerent" parents who take their child's side.
"These parents, themselves under social pressure and often unable to deal with their own children's behaviour, could be highly confrontational, sometimes resorting to violence in protecting their children's interests," the Cambridge University study, commissioned by the National Union of Teachers, said. "Teachers described 'highly permissive' parents who admitted to indulging their children, often for the sake of peace or simply because they had run out of alternative incentives or sanctions."
http://education.guardian.co.uk/
...2267433,00.html
La Noonan will be on MTP to feign upset over Obama's pastor, no doubt.
Muslims. No apostrophe.
simels regrets....
Support Obama or be labeled a radist. Is that how it works? No thanks!
re: sanity comentary, on troops and blackwater killing folks and dogs.
Ummm, why are their dogs in Iraq? Don't Muslim's think they're unclean, or something?
Molly Ivors
Yep. But there were a lot of secular Iraqis before this horseshit.
All Obama's speech proved this week is that he is unable to address the niggling details of the write situation and decided to simply gloss over his neglicence instead of contronting it.
He is an awful human being. He is human cancer.
the dissension at Fox is really shocking.
when i was in Tunisia there were lots of alley cats, Cairo as well
heh in fact my cousin Judith brought back 2 cats from Dubai
Yep. But there were a lot of secular Iraqis before this horseshit.
Point taken.
Muslims think they're unclean, but there are great Arab racing dogs like Salukis and Afghan hounds, too. It's hard to understand,
billyb-- there was interesting piece here on the radio the other day. Some genius devised a computer program for the CIA (I think) to analyze speech to see if people are lying. It deals with the use of certain qualifiers, and first person versus third person, or some such. All very complicated, and there's no way anyone could use it simply by listening to someone.
Anyway, it turns out that the same program can be used to analyze political speech-- not in terms of lying, but rather for "spin." The two are entirely different things-- "spin" can mean you're tying to appeal to the most people, which doesn't mean lying, so much as caution.
It turns out that about three weeks ago, Obama went from being the most spinning politician to the least, over night. The genuis dude interpretted the change to mean that his people had decided the nomination was in the bag, and so Obama, consciously or not, felt he no longer had to be appealing to everyone.
The recent New Yorker, as you all probably know, has an article about Sabrina Harman, one of the Abu Graib atrocity photographers.
"I guess we weren't really thinking, Hey, this guy was just murdered" she's quoted as saying.
Exactly, I almost throw up.
But I mean... the amount of dead Iraquis and dead soldiers... Jesus Christ...
Steve | 03.22.08 - 10:17 am | #
I won't watch it, but I can guess what happened.
I think it's because the puppy was helpless. If the GI's threw a baby off a cliff, I'd guess there'd be as much, if not more, outrage. Adults killing other adults is bad enough. Helpless creatures is even worse.
Personally, I will never forget the picture of that hysterical little Iraqi girl who had just lost her family (shot to death in a car, right in front of her) screaming while surrounded by GIs with their facemasks and guns ... to me, it's at least as iconic as the naked Vietnamese girl running down the dirt road. But, for some mysterious reason, that picture has disappeared ...
Support Obama or be labeled a radist. Is that how it works? No thanks!
Bugs | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:23 am | #
Irrelevant comment. Point out one instance of that. Your racism is much larger than you Hillary support. Your denigration of Obama through lies and the usual redneck bullshit is what brings us to label you racist. It's your fault, completely, little man.
Hey, I thought Obama was supposed to be Jesus and all his followers cultist.
OT, but does anyone know if McCain has issued any statements about a draft?
You Obamaites are the same people that thought Ralph Nader was the chosen one. How did that turn out? Now, your going to help elect McCain. Damn you ignorant people!
Some of the dogs may have been outdoor work dogs or guard dogs, Molly. They just don't like dogs inside the house.
CNN's John Ware on Maher's show (why I continue to watch that misogynist does trouble my conscience, I'll admit), anyway, Ware who reports from Iraq says we can't leave or they'll be a bloodbath. And no oil. More troubling, and likely quite accurate, he said for our soldiers, it was solely about taking care of one another. No grand scheme of helping democracy flower in the ME, no noble purpose, just watching each other's backs. Killing Iraqis and puppies matters little in this universe.
Wait until they finally do come home.
Fear of Obama brings the trolls out of the shitpile.
Hey, I thought Obama was supposed to be Jesus and all his followers cultist.
fahey | 03.22.08 - 10:26 am | #
Yeah, right.
OT: The conservative consolidation of power in Iran's parliamentary elections has shown that international sanctions are backfiring, according to liberal analysts in Tehran.
Religious conservatives have won 70% of the seats decided so far and are likely to maintain their grip after an imminent run-off vote for about 90 undecided seats.
The election has strengthened the hand of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, a militantly conservative force with growing control over the economy. At least 120 of the 290 members of the new parliament will be former guardsmen like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Reformists, barred from standing across the country, have only won 40 seats. They expected to do well in Tehran, where they were allowed to compete, but are yet to win a seat there, and demanded a recount.
The election results are a blow to advocates of sanctions as a means to pressure Tehran into suspending uranium enrichment, which the country's critics allege is a cover for a secret arms programme. Iran insists it is for energy generation.
A year ago US and British diplomats were pointing to criticism of Ahmadinejad's combative style on the world stage as evidence that economic pressure was working. "It's hard to see that now," a western diplomat in Tehran admitted.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/...008/mar/22/
iran
Some of the dogs may have been outdoor work dogs or guard dogs, Molly.
I'm reading that now. There are also warnings about valuing dogs more than people.
From Nicholson Baker's book
Joseph Goebbels was working on his diary-novel Michael. "I lie awake for a long time and think of the quiet pale man of Nazareth," he wrote. Then Adolf Hitler came into his life.
Hitler had just gotten out of Landesberg prison, where he'd dictated Mein Kampf to his friend Rudolf Hess. Goebbels finished reading Mein Kampf. "Who is this man?" he asked himself. "The real Christ, or only St. John?" Hitler offered Goebbels the job of editor of the National Socialist newspaper, the Völkischer Beobachter. They spoke at meetings together. "He jumps to his feet, there he is," Goebbels wrote in his diary in November 1925. "Shakes my hand. Like an old friend. And those big blue eyes. Like stars. He is glad to see me. I am in heaven."
A few weeks later, Goebbels saw him again. "Hitler is there. Great joy. He greets me like an old friend. And looks after me. How I love him! What a fellow! Then he speaks. How small I am! He gives me his photograph. With a greeting to the Rhineland. Heil Hitler! I want Hitler to be my friend. His photograph is on my desk."
A few months later still, the two of them had another meeting. Goebbels gave a two-and-a-half-hour speech. "I give it all I have. They rave, they shout. In the end Hitler embraces me. Tears are in his eyes. I feel something like true happiness."
They had dinner together that evening -- Hitler allowed Goebbels to pay. "And even in that, what greatness!"
Goebbels had found his man of Nazareth. "Adolf Hitler -- I love you."
He is an awful human being. He is human cancer.
pud | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:24 am | #
Perfect to follow Bush into the Shite House, then; an improvement over that shitstain. Practice this, pud: President Barack Hussein Obama. You'll be hearing it for 8 long years.
In the old days, when fund-raising requests came by snail mail, whenever I got one "from James Carville" I always responded with a tirade written all over the contribution form and zero dinero. Can't stand him . . .
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You Obamaites are the same people that thought Ralph Nader was the chosen one.
Wow, you haven't been around here much, have you?
What an idiot.
when i was in Tunisia there were lots of alley cats, Cairo as well
Cats have always ruled Egypt.
We understand on a basic level, that if you can do that to a puppy, you are a monster.
It shorts-circuits all the spin.
JR, kerosene and a match
No, I think it's more to do with the fact that you have to just shut down when you see wrecked humans, it's too painful. A puppy can get your outpouring of sympathy without the guilt/fear/horror of imagining that armless/legless child as your own.
Does that make sense?
Oh, and good morning.
pud=bugs
He's just trolling here today because the mothers in his neighborhood got wise to him, and won't let their little children play outside as long as his car is parked in his driveway.
That picture made a deep impression,steve. One of the regulars here blogged about it the other day.
http://ablognamedsue.typepad.com...riends-
you.html
Muslims think they're unclean, but there are great Arab racing dogs like Salukis and Afghan hounds, too. It's hard to understand,
plantsman
Well, the dog thing is in the hadiths, not the Quran, so you could be a good muslim and have a dog, so long as it's a working dog and you don't let it lick your plate.
He's just trolling here today because the mothers in his neighborhood got wise to him, and won't let their little children play outside as long as his car is parked in his driveway.
Donald Duck | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:30 am | #
He doesn't drive.
Just think, some of those soldiers that are killing people and puppies,when they come home,, will become policemen! Think about it?
Ah, yes. James Carville, the feeble, ineffective Rove of our team. Marries ugly Republican women instead of blowing guys in airport restrooms. He's an asshole.
plantsman, You still live in the south?
Personally, I will never forget the picture of that hysterical little Iraqi girl who had just lost her family (shot to death in a car, right in front of her) screaming while surrounded by GIs with their facemasks and guns ... to me, it's at least as iconic as the naked Vietnamese girl running down the dirt road. But, for some mysterious reason, that picture has disappeared ...
steve hussein simels | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:26 am | #
That picture and the one of the little boy who lost his limbs during shock-and-awe.
horrible.
Karin Hussein | 03.22.08 - 10:30 am | #
That picture needs to be plastered everywhere. It should be as iconic as the Vietnamese girl or the Kent State picture.
when they come home,, will become policemen!
york
That's OK, cops can shoot dogs and people too.
Goebbels had found his man of Nazareth. "Adolf Hitler -- I love you."
I'm reading Speer's memoirs right now. He doesn't go off all gooey like that but you get the idea he was swept off his feet as well.
Just think, some of those soldiers that are killing people and puppies,when they come home,, will become policemen! Think about it?
york | 03.22.08 - 10:31 am | #
Well according to studies by some psychologists, the profession that attracts the highest proportion of psychopaths is law enforcement.
I don't see how this will change things much.
I was troubled by Ware saying we can't leave Iraq. He was an early critic, shrieking at times about what a cockup it all was, the occupation. But even when reminded of all the deaths to date, he said there would be an even uglier bloodbath unleashed if we left. He wasn't pressed on how long we had to stay, however, and whether this wouldn't happen whenever we leave.
Bush's tar baby.
HICA!
Local fun, nice weather... BURRITOS!
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I wonder how many soldiers picked up their taste for shooting dog *as* LEOs?
Bush's tar baby.
noblejoanie | 03.22.08 - 10:34 am | #
Ware is a neocon.
OT: Storms, gale force winds, sleet and snow are making for one of the dreariest Easter weekends in years - and show no sign of easing.
"There is no sign of spring out there, to be honest," said Met Office forecaster Chris Almond.
Snow has already slowed roads in northern England, and high winds are bringing snowy showers down the entire eastern side of the country.
It could snow as far south as London overnight on Saturday.
"It won't be a huge amount of snow in London, but there will be a few centimetres," Mr Almond said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne...ews/
7309343.stm
I sort of agree with Ware's "break it bought it" argument, but what can the troops do by now? Just distribute money to avoid violence when the general elections come?
The Sergio Vieira de Mellos of this world are sure needed...
Holy. Fucking. Cow.
Carville needs to stop pulling the 50 cal in the Dems usual circle firing squad. If he chooses his commentariat perks over party loyalty, he ought to be shunned from every strategy meeting, DNC-funded candidate's organization, and certainly from any principal role in the convention. Put him back on a phone bank talking ro real voters.
I was troubled by Ware saying we can't leave Iraq. He was an early critic, shrieking at times about what a cockup it all was, the occupation. But even when reminded of all the deaths to date, he said there would be an even uglier bloodbath unleashed if we left. He wasn't pressed on how long we had to stay, however, and whether this wouldn't happen whenever we leave.
Bush's tar baby.
noblejoanie | 03.22.08 - 10:34 am | #
And I'm troubled by McCain saying the same thing.
I'm serious about this: where does he plan to get the troops to implement his Iraq agenda? How can he pull this off without bringing back the draft?
You want to make sure that 18-21 year olds vote Dem? Just make sure they realize that McCain will need to press them into service.
No need to wonder, really, why so many Hell's Angels are ex military. Same mindset, same world. "Us & Them" on acid...
Yahoo has an ABC news piece posted. We can solve the gas problem if we all use used french fry oil and jiggle with the fuel injection system.
jiggle with the fuel injection system.
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:37 am | #
Get down, get funky!
Just what is it that people like Carville bring to the table? It amazes me that people get paid for being opinionated shitwizzles.
I am reposting this because it just pisses me off. The Grand Dragon speaks, (Pat Buchanan)
Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.
Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.
This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:
First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.
Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.
Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.
Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants.
Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?
http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969
I think you've had more snow than us, Moonbootica. We've only had one snowfall that stuck to the ground all winter, in central N.J.
I know Jesus Christ and Hillary Clinton is no Jesus Christ.
Ware is a neocon.
rootless-e
Is he? I wasn't aware of that. I just remember his reporting early on as the hash of it all.
It is time for Billary to recognize reality and withdraw. Their smear campaign only helps McCain. Why don't even the most ardent Billary supporters see this irrefutable fact?
OT: Storms, gale force winds, sleet and snow are making for one of the dreariest Easter weekends in years - and show no sign of easing.
"There is no sign of spring out there, to be honest,"
Easter present from the Ocean Conveyor?
DWD-
I think Pat has the same view on Germany and the Jews.
It is time for Billary to recognize reality and withdraw. Their smear campaign only helps McCain. Why don't even the most ardent Billary supporters see this irrefutable fact?
Demosthenes | 03.22.08 - 10:39 am | #
Your concern is noted.
I think you've had more snow than us, Moonbootica. We've only had one snowfall that stuck to the ground all winter, in central N.J.
Karin Hussein | 03.22.08 - 10:38 am | #
crazy weather thats for sure
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?
We give them money
but are they grateful
no!
They're spiteful and
they're hateful
- Randy Newman.
One of our deans invited Carville to give a talk, answer questions and attend a dinner a few years back. He spent most of his time telling us about what we had done wrong (fundraising, publicity etc).
Celebrities, like trolls, are best ignored. Is there killfile for TV? I just leave the thing turned off, for the most part.
Where is the gratitude? Oh, for fuck's sake.
Carville needs to stop pulling the 50 cal in the Dems usual circle firing squad. If he chooses his commentariat perks over party loyalty, he ought to be shunned from every strategy meeting, DNC-funded candidate's organization, and certainly from any principal role in the convention. Put him back on a phone bank talking ro real voters.
ignoreland | 03.22.08 - 10:36 am | #
You forget, this comes from the same man who, after the 2006 Congressional elections, suggested that Howard Dean needed to be replaced as DNC head so that Carville's little DLC-connected bun-boy, Harold Ford, Jr., could take the position.
I'd say, Carville is already doing a good job of excluding himself from DNC policy making sessions.
Hillary is the DLC/Carville wing's last attempt at reclaiming any kind of power or relevancy in the party.
And they know it.
Brooklyn Girl:
I don't understand your comment. Don't you see what Billary's campaign of deceit is doing to the party? They are literally handing McCain invaluable material for campaign commercials. I used to be a big Clinton supporter -- and voted for Mr. Clinton twice, but it's over.
I think Pat has the same view on Germany and the Jews.
leibniz♘☮
He NEEDS to be taken off television and returned to the old White Fokes home where he spit his venom to other old white fokes.
That is pretty close to the most stupidest and most racist bit of clap trap I have seen published. Really, he makes our trolls look bright.
Just what is it that people like Carville bring to the table?
Carville is an older, balder, and more Serious version of Jimmy Buffett.
Without slave labour, the United States wouldn't even exist.
Buchanan is the crazy black neighbour from The Boondocks (the one who thinks black people should be grateful for the discipline and christianity offered by the white man during slavery).
The significance of Richardson's endorsement is the signal it sends to the Clinton campaign on the direction the uncommitted superdelegates are headed. This may be the crack in the dam.
Other defections might wait until after the PA primary. If, and it's unlikely, she wins by a huge margin, it might staunch the bleeding. But if it's close, it's tapioca time.
A peek in the window of high holidays at our house: upon waking this morning, the 5yo, still abed, hollered out, "Tomorrow is CANDY!"
I have to admit that when I see 'Billary' in a comment, I skip the rest of the comment.
most stupidest?
Damn!
Coffeeeeeeee!
But even when reminded of all the deaths to date, he said there would be an even uglier bloodbath unleashed if we left.
Not to worry.
US Government policy is not to count civilian dead.
Brooklyn Girl-- Hillary has every right to do whatever she wants with her campaign. But do you see any way she can win? Asking in all sincerity here.
We give them money
but are they grateful
no!
They're spiteful and
they're hateful
They all hate us anyhow, so let's drop the Big One now.
I'm too lazy to Save Bill and Hillary. So shoot me!
It's too early for Easter. They should make Easter on a fixed date, like maybe the first Sunday of May.
He NEEDS to be taken off television and returned to the old White Fokes home where he spit his venom to other old white fokes.
The racist, hateful father in "Monsters' Ball" got his just reward in a nursing home run by brown people.
I meant to "say" Bill and Hillary. Whoops!
simply appalling - Winston Churchill: leader, victor, and, according to a third of schoolchildren, astronaut. The most celebrated British Prime Minister of the 20th century was the first man to walk on the Moon, one in three young people told a survey.
The black hole in their knowledge was revealed after an online poll asked 1,400 children, aged from 6 to 14, some basic astronomical questions.
Not only did a significant number confuse Neil Armstrong with the statesman who led the Allies to victory, it also revealed that 72 per cent were unable to identify the Moon in a series of pictures.
Saturn also proved a problem, with only 44 per cent noting the giveaway rings. Two in five thought Mars was simply a bar of chocolate. A third of children believed the Earth was not an official planet (35 per cent) and 33 per cent thought the surface of Mars was blue.
Almost two thirds (60 per cent) were unable to say how many planets were in the solar system, while 59 per cent could not name the planets in order.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle3587157.ece
Just think, some of those soldiers that are killing people and puppies,when they come home,, will become policemen! Think about it?
Wow.
I was thinking about this yesterday.
The NYPD has enough bad apples in it.
And it's like most police departments. It jumps veterans to the head of the line.
Hillary is the DLC/Carville wing's last attempt at reclaiming any kind of power or relevancy in the party.
While I would still be happy with Hillary in the white house, this is one of the two reasons why I voted for Obama in the primary. The other was his ability to engage young voters.
Brooklyn Girl:
I don't understand your comment. Don't you see what Billary's campaign of deceit is doing to the party? They are literally handing McCain invaluable material for campaign commercials. I used to be a big Clinton supporter -- and voted for Mr. Clinton twice, but it's over.
Demosthenes | 03.22.08 - 10:42 am | #
Ahh, but you're trying to talk sense and remind this person of higher principles.
For these people, the only thing that matters is that Hillary is a woman, and that if she wins, then a female--their standard bearer for some notion of "equality"--will have finally attained the highest position of power on the planet.
The bitterness at being oppressed and put down by men for these types, has so warped them, that they've lost any judgment.
Demosthenes | 03.22.08 - 10:42 am | #
Your comments make you sound like a concern troll ... they have a certain formal way of writing.
I think we're all aware of the danger of providing fodder for McCain's campaign.
I heard Winston Churchill killed Princess Diana.
I just heard Peter Fenn (well, some Dem spokeperson/MSNBC political analyst) on MSNBC say that Obama is "the product of a white mother and an African-American father."
I've heard Obama say he had a white mother and an African-Amercian father.
I can't find any evidence that his father took out American citizenship--did I miss something?
Wow. I guess Carville wanted to make sure that Obama's associates didn't have a monopoly on the use of angry and hateful languge. What a fucking putz. Saying shit like that can only hurt Hillary.
Is he? I wasn't aware of that. I just remember his reporting early on as the hash of it all.
noblejoanie | 03.22.08 - 10:39 am | #
Actually, I'm not completely sure. I think he was pretty right wing and is just not as stupid/venal as the other wingers. But I don't remember where I read about his pre-war affiliations.
For these people, the only thing that matters is that Hillary is a woman, and that if she wins, then a female--their standard bearer for some notion of "equality"--will have finally attained the highest position of power on the planet.
The bitterness at being oppressed and put down by men for these types, has so warped them, that they've lost any judgment.
Donald Duck | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:46 am | #
"These people"?
Fuck you.
I don't like Hillary at all, frankly, and I won't vote for her "just because she's a woman."
The racist, hateful father in "Monsters' Ball" got his just reward in a nursing home run by brown people.
Like that Far Side cartoon where Col Sanders gets to the pearly gates and finds that the admission desk is run by a chicken.
"Uh, oh"
The NYPD has enough bad apples in it.
And it's like most police departments. It jumps veterans to the head of the line.
Or Bernie Kerik
I hope the next African-American who serves Buchanan in a restaurant spits in his soup.
What an asshole.
teh funnee
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:47 am | #
More like this, please!
The bitterness at being oppressed and put down by men for these types, has so warped them, that they've lost any judgment.
Donald Duck | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:46 am | #
Stupid.
What's a concern troll? I'm a supporter of Mr. Obama. I voted for him three times: in the Democratic primary for Senator, in the general campaign for Senator, and in the Illinois primary on Super Tuesday. I voted for Mr. Clinton in 1992 and 1996 and thought he was a decent president. I'm just stating the truth.
While I would still be happy with Hillary in the white house, this is one of the two reasons why I voted for Obama in the primary. The other was his ability to engage young voters.
Gromit | 03.22.08 - 10:46 am | #
Well, I'm glad you'd be happy with Hillary in the White House.
I wouldn't be happy with Hillary in the White House. The idea of eight-years of Bush-Lite/DLC politics is something that I can do without.
Not to worry.
US Government policy is not to count civilian dead.
Gimlet
I want this occupation over, but my wish for it to end today must be tempered by what we have wrought over there.
And the other reality is the price and access to oil. We are not ready to do without it and the economy is already in a tailspin.
All the choices are ugly.
I mean, it's like Obama hands them an opening, a place where for just one time they may be able to claim the moral high ground, and Carville just steps in and fucks it up. That sumbitch is a mole.
Obama said the only thing controversial he knew about Rev. Wright was his stand on issues relating to Africa, abortion and gay marriage. …
His initial reaction to the initial ABC News broadcast of Rev. Wright’s sermons denouncing the U.S. was that he had never heard his pastor of 20 years make any comments that were anti-U.S. until the tape was played on air.
But yesterday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech yesterday in Philadelphia.
Britain only remains in Iraq due to political reasons
All the choices are ugly.
noblejoanie | 03.22.08 - 10:49 am | #
Yes, so we need to make the one that will do the least harm.
One thing I found interesting about the Obama race speech was that it came *after* Obama had the nomination mathematically wrapped up. There's no telling what he would have done had there still been a contest, but because it came after, he rose to the challenge.
Clashes have broken out in a number of cities in Turkey between police and demonstrators celebrating the Kurdish spring festival.
Dozens of people were hurt and scores arrested in the protests, media said.
In the worst violence, police used tear gas and water cannon in Van against protesters chanting slogans in support of the banned PKK Kurdish rebel group.
The unrest follows last month's incursion by Turkey's army into northern Iraq to target the PKK.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ope/
7309590.stm
I think the nomination was HRC's to lose, initially. But she lost it fair & square. Obama just out organized her on the ground, in all those states where she didn't even bother to set up field offices because she thought she would have it wrapped up by Super Tuesday.
Don't you just love when people who don't even know you (and frankly this is the first day I've seen this guys handle here) assign motives to you?
Even people that know me can't read my mind.
Mornin' folks.
I hope Clinton eventually realizes that her impending loss will have been due in no small part to the people she has surrounded herself with.
All the choices are ugly.
noblejoanie | 03.22.08 - 10:49 am | #
Yes, so we need to make the one that will do the least harm.
Brooklyn Girl
Depends on whose ox is being gored. Not being sharp with you, BG, just not sure how that's measured, the least harm.
JP! Hope that big project is going well. Howz them boyz this morning!
Does Obama have to responsible for evey sentence that comes out of his pastor's mouth!?
This "scandal" is so incredibly lame.
I liked Richardson's response to the 'slapping the Clinton's in the face' meme which is essentially, 'I repaid them by serving my country well.'
He's correct, the debt is your obligation to do your job well for the country, otherwise it's just patronage and cronyism.
Richardson owes the Clintons nada, and Obama owes Richardson zippo.
Carville the whole operation is just collecting and distributing chits.
I gotta get to rehearsal. Have a good morning, peeps.
Obama had the nomination mathematically wrapped up
Is that really true? This isthe first I've read that this is so. I just thought that Hillary needed improbably but not impossibly large margins in PA, etc. in order to win.
Dear God,
Please make the concern trolls go away once the primary is over.
Offering my virgin daughter as a sacrifice, and 2 rosaries.
Thanking you in advance,
XOXOXOXO
Vicki
Demosthenes | 03.22.08 - 10:49 am | #
Don't bother stating "the truth" to these types. It's wasted effort to try and talk sense, facts and rationality to the insane and senseless.
They are constitutionally inoculated against such things.
You'd be better off pissing up a wall.
I think the nomination was HRC's to lose, initially. But she lost it fair & square. Obama just out organized her on the ground, in all those states where she didn't even bother to set up field offices because she thought she would have it wrapped up by Super Tuesday.
Karin Hussein | 03.22.08 - 10:50 am | #
Including New York. When I went to vote in the primary, Obama had a ground campaign in her home state. She didn't. Her arrogance is her undoing.
[bzzzzt!]
[flash]
(bugs zapper at work)
But yesterday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech yesterday in Philadelphia.
Bugs | 03.22.08 - 10:49 am | #
that's not a different story at all. You're no better than the Repigs when you lie and spin like that. Your racism is all that drives you.
The fight has just begun! Pennsylvania is around the corner and a large victory is excepted. Polls in West Virginia also strongly favor her. Polls in North Carolina that have favored Obama are now virtually tied. There will be big surprises in North Carolina.
Actually, the thing that strikes me most about carville's bloviation is that it sounds really really fucking stupid. This idiocy comes from a major Dem advisor? Can Mary Matralin have sucked his brains out his pecker?
Yes, it's Curly time, again.
.
Even people that know me can't read my mind.
I know exactly how you feel. 
ronjazz hussein, Admit it! Obama lied.
Moi - I suppose that Richardson serves as an acceptable Hispanic substitute within the national Democratic party. As a latifundista he's not exactly teh scary brown guy sneaking across the border to take over ur job at the chicken processing plant in Dubuque....
Even people that know me can't read my mind.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Dumbya: "It's awful to lose your mind -- or not to have a mind to read."
I offer the new and improved spelling for Pat's last name.
BuKKKanan.
-GSD
victory is excepted. Polls in West Virginia also strongly favor her. Polls in North Carolina that have favored Obama are now virtually tied. There will be big surprises in North Carolina.
Bugs | 03.22.08 - 10:53 am | #
Don't wait up all night for the easter bunny.
And Obama didn't lie at all. You are the liar.
blerb -- see here.
"virtually insurmountable"
which, sorry to say but it's true, is why the Clinton campaign is desperately throwing every thing they've got out, principles be damned.
I'm just stating the truth.
Demosthenes | 03.22.08 - 10:49 am | #
I know you are, and I will take you at your word that you are being honest. We, however, are usually infested with trolls who come over her and spew Republican talking points, using a similar writing style to yours.
Brooklyn Girl, there's nothing like being referred to as "you people" to make the blood boil, is there?
pie referred to me as "you people" a while back in one of those Obama-Hillary spats that go on here, and I'm still burned up about it.
Bugs, what are the things that most attract you to Clinton, policy-wise?
(you can be brief if you like)
(I'm not trying to be an asshole, I just can't really understand, and I want a perspective. Two months ago I'd be superhappy seeing her in the WH. Now, not so much)
Bugs:
Clinton can't win. You are living in a dream world. The longer she stays in the race the longer McCain will have to cement his win in November. Moreover, if Clinton steals it -- and according to all reputable unbiased accounts I have read is the only way she can win -- all of Obama's new voters and many traditional Democrats (African Americans and many educated liberals) will stay home in November. In short, Clinton's quixotic quest is harmful and of no benefit to the ultimate goal -- winning in November.
Newsflash!
Religious leader says something batshit insane!
Yawn.
OT: Clashes have broken out between Palestinian factions in a refugee camp in southern Lebanon.
The fighting was between members of the Fatah faction and an Islamist group called Jund al-Sham.
It took place in the densely populated Ain al-Hilwe refugee camp, which is located on the outskirts of the southern city of Sidon.
Fighters launched rockets and exchanged gunfire in the middle of the camp, causing dozens of civilians to flee.
Lebanese and Palestinian officials said one Fatah member was killed and four others wounded, the Associated Press news agency reported.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ast/
7309079.stm
I think the nomination was HRC's to lose, initially. But she lost it fair & square. Obama just out organized her on the ground, in all those states where she didn't even bother to set up field offices because she thought she would have it wrapped up by Super Tuesday.
Karin Hussein
I agree and she hired the WRONG people to advise her. She had her choice of anyone and she chose these people.
I believe, politically at this time, that the two are pretty similar. My concern is that we need to stop fighting each other as we are beginning to draw blood now and that is not good. We need to save the bloodletting for the other guys.
Mrs DWD and I watched the NOW show last night about Pthalates in chidren's toys. Why can't we have our toys free of these chemicals? And the answer is the Republicans. On ten-thousand issues that should matter to Americans, they are on the other side of reason. And what are we talking about? Obama's preacher and James Carville's rudeness!
God Damn!
Steve, I remember the Clinton years in office. I want those years back again.
Don't bother stating "the truth" to these types. It's wasted effort to try and talk sense, facts and rationality to the insane and senseless.
They are constitutionally inoculated against such things.
You'd be better off pissing up a wall.
Donald Duck | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:52 am | #
Well, now that's a mighty fine attitude. Bet you're real popular with the ladies.
Listen, shithead, you obviously don't know anything about me or how I think. Take your misconceptions about "these types" and shove them up your feathered ass.
Where do I dump these tubs of jello? Could you guys go over to that inflatable pool I've got set up?
HRC's advisors are her undoing.
She started off bad by picking Mark Penn. Ugh!
Steve, Obama will be another Jimmy Carter.
How come Wright is news and McCain's "spiritual guide" is getting a free-pass on basically calling for the genocide of Muslims?
Brooklyn Girl:
Thanks. I'm a lawyer and afraid I tend to write like one! I'm no Republican.
Regards.
And what are we talking about? Obama's preacher and James Carville's rudeness!
And serving it up to the trolls.
Dan McEnroe, thanks for your post and the link to the petition to:
http://www.democracyforamerica.c....com/
OpenLetter
Don't know if it will help, but it's a way to try.
Brooklyn Girl, there's nothing like being referred to as "you people" to make the blood boil, is there?
pie referred to me as "you people" a while back in one of those Obama-Hillary spats that go on here, and I'm still burned up about it.
Karin Hussein | 03.22.08 - 10:55 am | #
Yeah. I hold grudges about stuff like that.
How are things in Joisey?
pie referred to me as "you people" a while back in one of those Obama-Hillary spats that go on here, and I'm still burned up about it.
Karin Hussein | 03.22.08 - 10:55 am | #
So here's an old Jewish joke.
Two old jewish guys are wandering around NY and pass a church with a sign "We'll pay you $50 to accept Jesus". The one say, "nu, I'll go see." "Are you crazy?" asks his friend, but Old Jewish Guy Number 1 insists and disappears into the church. He comes out
Second guy: So?
First guy: I did it.
Second guy: Did they pay you $50?
First guy: Why are you people so obsessed with money all the time?
Story behind the story: The Clinton myth
One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.
Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party’s most reliable constituency.
Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote — which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle — and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.
People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.
Bugs, thanks.
It helps a bit seeing the "other side"'s (which is a bull concept) perspective.
reputable unbiased accounts
Good band name?
Of course, there's already a band I love with a similar name, The Figments.
McStain, we know you went five years without a piece of ass, but that don't mean you're free to chase every young chippy in town.
Bugs, although I can't really agree or really see why you'd think that.
But thanks anyway.
“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.
Hah! Just another clear-as-a-bell sign that the Clintons and their allies need to be pried out of power, ASAP. And to think I voted for Bill Clinton twice. If I could take those votes back, I would.
Thanks. I'm a lawyer and afraid I tend to write like one! I'm no Republican.
Regards.
Demosthenes | 03.22.08 - 10:58 am | #
No problem! We're pretty informal around here, and we don't pull any punches.
As far as I can tell, Loony Tunes doesn't have opinions. It's just a cut and paster that tries to get a reaction out of folks.
I guarantee it will ask, sometime today, when Obama will release his military records.
Lenore: JP! Hope that big project is going well. Howz them boyz this morning!
I haz projekt?
The boys are fine, furry and sassy, today. Already wrestled a couple of times, had lots of pets, and been out on the sunny balcony.
.
Bugs,
You hover around here all the time and you're obviously out of touch with both this community and with reality.
Why don't you spend your time doing something more positive? Volunteer the time you spend trolling this site at a homeless shelter, donate blood or work for your church... whatever.
I think I speak for most of us here... we don't care what you think.
Carville's a huge dick for going out of his way to villify another Dem who simply made a choice about who he wanted to support.
Off to the farmer's market. Later, good people.
Steve, And I truly believe Obama cannot beat McCain. The media's has a love affair with McCain.
This idiocy comes from a major Dem advisor? Can Mary Matralin have sucked his brains out his pecker?
Like Dick Vitale and Digger Phelps, Carville has outlived his usefulness as a coach, and will live out the balance of his career as a TV pundit.
Personally, I've thought Carville was pretty worthless for a while now. Also Donna Brazile and Paul Begala. Joe Trippi seems to be headed that direction as well.
Now, this Axelrod guy seems to have his game on.
Moe--Olbermann ran that story last night, pointing out (a) Hillary can't win and (b) why won't the press recognize that?
'Cause they loves the horse race, of course. Oh, that, and race baiting on Fox (and CNN, but they're kinder and gentler about it).
Bugs, sorry but... wow.
Just... no.
Why don't you spend your time doing something more positive? Volunteer the time you spend trolling this site at a homeless shelter, donate blood or work for your church... whatever.
ducky 1515 | --------------------------
Ducky, I could say the same to you.
Now Hillary is Christ??? Will not someone rid us of these meddlesome priests?
AAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrg!!
Bugs | 03.22.08 - 11:03 am | #
fuck off, racist pig
Speaking of Donna Brazile, has she quit the party yet? Did she not threaten to do that?
bye for now
McStain, we know you went five years without a piece of ass, but that don't mean you're free to chase every young chippy in town.
Sure it does. You got a problem with that?
Steve, And I truly believe Obama cannot beat McCain. The media's has a love affair with McCain.
It could be that McCain is hung like a horse, 'cause all the female reporters pay him a lot of attention.
If you're planning on attending this summer's Olympic Games in Beijing, expect your hotel room to be bugged and searched while you're not there.
That's one of the warnings in a new fact sheet on the 2008 Olympics issued today by the U.S. State Department to Americans who intend to go to the games that are being hosted by the Chinese government.
"All visitors should be aware that they have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public or private locations," the fact sheet says. "All hotel rooms and offices are considered to be subject to on-site or remote technical monitoring at all times. Hotel rooms, residences and offices may be accessed at any time without the occupant's consent or knowledge."
Sounds familiar.
Bugs, known for his trenchant observation of the political scene, is apparently unaware of the fool McCain has made of himself repeatedly in recent days. It's all on tape.
This morning on NPR endless commentary about Obama's pastor problem, then glowing mention of McCain's stateman's tour of the Middle East without mentioning that he doesn't know what the fuck's going on there.
How are things in Joisey?
Well, I hope to be in Philly next Saturday.
WTF is wrong with the Clinton people. No wonder people think of them as a mafia outfit.
I can see a riff on Da Vinci's Last Supper here...
Speaking of Donna Brazile, has she quit the party yet? Did she not threaten to do that?
who cares?
believe, politically at this time, that the two are pretty similar. My concern is that we need to stop fighting each other as we are beginning to draw blood now and that is not good. We need to save the bloodletting for the other guys.
There positions on various issues out of the gate may be similar, but their philosophies of governance look very different to me.
She about getting to be an insider to know how things work in order to make them work for you and your constituencies. It's still basically an elitist point of view.
He's for changing how things work so that voters ourselves have a voice in policy making and oversight. It's a genuinely populist approach.
.
reputable unbiased accounts = the figments. get it?
oh well, must be typing with invisible ink again.
i'll try again later.
Chimpy compares military deaths to sacrifice of Jesus.
Watch the way Kelly O'Donnell looks at McCain on the plane. It's worse than Nancy giving Ronnie the Gaze.
Check out TPM today for the reader comment from a guy talking about how he's gonna vote McCain if Hilary isn't the nominee. It's pretty pathetic and whiny.
Sure it does. You got a problem with that?
theodoric of athens
Cindy might. But, then, who knows?
blerb -- see here.
"virtually insurmountable"
Thanks, Moe.
Bugs | 03.22.08 - 11:03 am | #
fuck off, racist pig
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
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You're a classy lady.....NOT!
Lime Rickey ~
Steve, And I truly believe Obama cannot beat McCain. The media's has a love affair with McCain.
Bugs
Which explains the CBS poll, that a majority of Americans
A) aren't following the Obama/Wright scandal, despite wall to wall cable coverage and all the bleating on the blogosphere.
B) Most who are, think Obama did the right thing with his speech.
C) The speech (on race) has convinced more people to vote for Obama.
Yeah, the media controls the masses, and they're all marching in lockstep with what the media tells 'em. People are definitely sheeple. And there's nothing Obama can do about it....
Carville's a huge dick for going out of his way to villify another Dem who simply made a choice about who he wanted to support.
MP
Makes ya wonder if HRC made Richardson an offer he couldn't refuse, and he refused it...
I do Bugs. Try it.
Check out TPM today for the reader comment from a guy talking about how he's gonna vote McCain if Hilary isn't the nominee. It's pretty pathetic and whiny.
Shit...that's every other comment at MyDD and Taylor Marsh's place.
He's for changing how things work so that voters ourselves have a voice in policy making and oversight. It's a genuinely populist approach.
.
Sparkle Plenty
That is my hope as well. I further, because he a very intelligent person and certainly capable of growth, hope he will learn to be more responsive to the needs of the people as he adjusts to the job. This is a (regardless of whether Cheney thinks so or not) representative democracy.
And yes, that does look pretty insurmountable. She should start angling for the veep spot now if she wants to stay in the game.
I do Bugs. Try it.
ducky 1515
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Liar!
Well, I hope to be in Philly next Saturday.
Karin Hussein | 03.22.08 - 11:06 am | #
Cool!
Bugs, I'm sure the love-affair with McCain is just the overall fear of not doing anything that's anti-american.
People have in their heads that being tortured for years (and, ok, a "hero") does not a good president make.
And yes, that does look pretty insurmountable. She should start angling for the veep spot now if she wants to stay in the game.
I think she's burned that bridge with Bill's help.
Shit...that's every other comment at MyDD and Taylor Marsh's place.
Zap Rowsdower
Some people really want war with Iran, eh? Aint no way in hell I'd vote for McCaint, under any circumstances.
"I do Bugs. Try it.
ducky 1515
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Liar!"
To quote someone further up the line "classy".
Perhaps you know what an "Apherisis Donor" is?
Florida I've seen many Obama supporters say the same thing.
Just pick any diary at Kos.
I can't help but notice the desperation with which some people are trying to turn l'affaire Wright into some kind of Swift Boat Moment for BHO...
I think she's burned that bridge with Bill's help.
plantsman
I dunno. Maybe not. But it certainly seems like she has tried.
Curly only has one fan here, this morning.
.
A 3rd Bush term over Obama? Insanity.....
Bugs | 03.22.08 - 11:08 am | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
Man...Scoop sites will be the downfall of the Democratic Party. I'm telling ya!
Peep Art # 31 -- Marion Berry's arrest is pretty good, but my favorite is Venus de Peeps.
Florida I've seen many Obama supporters say the same thing.
And I'd say the same sentiment goes for those cats too. You want blood on your hands? Go right ahead and vote McCaint.
(sorry for the repeat)
Why the MSM haven't fallen all over the genocidal comments from McCain's "spiritual guide"?
Chimpy compares military deaths to sacrifice of Jesus.
Is he Pilate in this comparison?
Registered thirtypiecesofsilver.blogspot a couple of years ago. Guess I should activate it in honor of that son-of-a-bitch. Stuff it baldie.
Oh, that peeps art is great, Hecate! I love the Andy Warhol peep.
Hecate,
I clicked on your Peeps link and when the broadcaster came on, until I realized it was a commercial, I thought you were linking to an NTodd podcast.
NTodd has a yummy, intellectual voice.
Chimpy's easter menu
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20080322-
1.html
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
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I hope you childless.
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ErinPDX! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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Carville's a huge dick for going out of his way to villify another Dem who simply made a choice about who he wanted to support.
Good thing that never happens around here!
Moe--Olbermann ran that story last night, pointing out (a) Hillary can't win and (b) why won't the press recognize that?
Because the media don't just report the news any more, they also make it. Cuts out the middleman, reduces costs, increases profit, sells more cars and beer...
Chimpy's easter menu
Yep...that's the kind of stuff everyone eats after a day of clearin' brush and praying to baby Jeebus.
Jalapeño/ Sweet Potato Surprise!
Carville is a hoot.
if he is suggesting that Richardson is a Judas,
the implication is that Hillary is the Messiah.
ummmm. no.
(maybe in a DLC universe, but who wants to live there?)
Bugs | 03.22.08 - 11:14 am | #
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
Chimpy's easter menu
About this, I could not care less. No offense, P O'Neill, I just wish the fucker would wither away into the ether.
Oh...it's threatening children now.
Chimpy compares military deaths to sacrifice of Jesus.
I am going to take a hostage.
I hope you childless.
Guess again.
How're the munchkins, mrs. i? Mine are quite cheesed that I keep getting up to tidy, but we're having people over tomorrow.
Keith Olbermann's hypocrisy knows no bounds. He smears Hillary Clinton, with a lifelong record of supporting Civil Rights and the African American community, by comparing her to David Duke and the KKK, while IGNORING the racist rantings of Barack Obama's pastor of 20 years.
Reverand Wright is man he listened to for guidance for 20 years. The man that married him and Michelle. The man that baptized both of his girls. What kind of "judgement" does that show on Obama's part?
Chimpy's easter menu
Standard fare in tent cities around LA.
I can't help but notice the desperation with which some people are trying to turn l'affaire Wright into some kind of Swift Boat Moment for BHO...
Sufferin' Succotash
It was a real blow to his image as some kind of messiah of reconciliation, but he parried it fairly well, and I think it comes too soon to really hurt him in the general election. The McCain camp will not be able to keep it in the forefront until November. It did show that that he is not invulnerable, though. Which is good. None of us should get overconfident about this.
Baaa!
How come Wright is news and McCain's "spiritual guide" is getting a free-pass on basically calling for the genocide of Muslims?
Robert | 03.22.08 - 10:58 am | #
Because in Jesusland it's acceptable to call for the eradication of a billion people, as long as they're brown and foreign.
The Abbey Road peeps are great, too.
Good morning, peeps.
I'm at my mom's housing sorting her meds for her. They put her arthritis medication in a childproof bottle.
I'm going to pickup my bro from his group home so he can visit. We'll dye Easter eggs.
Pretty tame stuff.
pax
Hecate, we shouldn't be surprised that Carville is into vilifying...it seems to be a Clinton characteristic strategy.
very much like the current dweller in the white house.
whether you hate hillary, hate carville,
repub or dem, you cant deny that the people surrounding clinton and those made by clinton have stabbed him in the ass. the list is very long. republicans dont do this to their leaders, good or bad. raygun is a saint and smirk will be with revisionist history by the mainstream repub media.
Fuck Off, Racist Pig
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
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Do you teach Sunday school? I hope not.
Good thing that never happens around here!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Well that's a good point Hecate, but damn, does it have to get so nasty?
Hey Karin,
I can't wait until those pink lily-of-the-valley peek through the ground...
Alas, my crocuses aren't even up yet.
Moly,
play date today. they have discovered the joys of foam puzzles, fish and animals, Ibarhim picked up at a Korean 99 cent store in Seattle.
About this, I could not care less. No offense, P O'Neill, I just wish the fucker would wither away into the ether.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Stuff it baldie
Carville is of course, obviously a chickenfucker...
Arabella: I'm at my mom's housing sorting her meds for her. They put her arthritis medication in a childproof bottle.
Nice to know that Regents U. has a pharmacy school.
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Chimpy's easter menu
Meanwhile, there's an entire tent city springing up on one of the overpasses by the Kennedy Center and homeless people sleeping on grates just across the street from the WH.
I'm almost shocked that troll said the exact same thing, word for word, yesterday.
Chimpy is having cheese grits, that makes him a real Murkan.
racist rantings of Barack Obama's pastor of 20 years.
Bugs
There were no racist comments, Bugs. You could try to stop being the lowest of the lowests.
Seriously, sir.
“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,”
Hannity writing carville's stuff these days?
Elmer, PHD (horrible) | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 10:18 am | #
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm thrilled that the DLC, Carville, McAuliffe, and Joke Line days of the Democratic party are finally reaching their bitter end.
They've brought us nothing but milquetoast republican enabling and electoral defeat for the past 14 years.
Good riddance.
Bugs, you are really, really getting tiresome. Does somebody pay you to be an Obama hate-bot? I can't think of any other reason you would want to continually engage in the conversational equivalent of farting in an elevator the way you do.
Bugs | 03.22.08 - 11:18 am | #
fuck off, racist pig
Reverend Wright was welcomed into The White House the day Bill Clinton tearfully confessed (to the Prayer Breakfast attendees) his tawdry dalliances with Ms. Lewinsky.
Vicki: Alas, my crocuses aren't even up yet.
My crocus was up, this morning.
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the saint obama, wicked hillary is getting old. how about telling us how saint barry will save the republic without trashing hillary. just cant do it can you.
does it have to get so nasty?
I try to stay out of the fray. I'll vote for the Democratic candidate who gets the nomination.
But the nastiness does spill over into other areas, as well, which is disheartening.
raygun is a saint
The Saint of Lost Keys.
Why the MSM haven't fallen all over the genocidal comments from McCain's "spiritual guide"?
Steve
If you want my opinion it is for a couple of reasons. One is that Reverend Wright's criticism was aimed at "White" people. Reverend Hagee's criticisms are aimed at "Non-white" people. Reverend Hagee delivers his with the fire of a German commandant ordering executions, Reverend Wright has fire in his belly.
I guess that is two. . . .
Well that's a good point Hecate, but damn, does it have to get so nasty?
IMHO, it doesn't have to and it shouldn't.
I'm almost shocked that troll said the exact same thing, word for word, yesterday.
You're shocked, I'm flabbergasted.
Who could have anticipated that we've been dealing with an endless loop...
My crocus was up, this morning.
NO FLIRTING!!!
Alas, my crocuses aren't even up yet.
24° here this morning. No visible signs of spring. [sigh]
The Saint of Lost Keys.
I think that's St. Anthony. At least, that's what Sister Michael Anthony taught me in first grade.
Chimpy's easter menu
If it aint crow, who cares?
Nice to know that Regents U. has a pharmacy school.
I don't understand what you mean.
Got to go get my brother. See you later.
pax
JP, you are a dirty, naughty, nasty boy...
you cant deny that the people surrounding clinton and those "made by" clinton have stabbed him in the ass.
Maybe there's a reason.
Chelsea is the only person "made by" Clinton, btw.
I think that we got another inch of snow overnight.
I am so fucking tired of winter.
Because in Jesusland it's acceptable to call for the eradication of a billion people, as long as they're brown and foreign.
R. McGeddon
But, fuck, I know it's a automatic Godwin situation, but can no one (not even Stewart, Colbert, Olbermann, Maher etc) raise their hand and go "ahm... Wright wasn't nothing at all, and this guy... ahm... is going to the straightfoward self-proclaimed genocide"?
Hecate-
IMHO, it doesn't have to and it shouldn't.
Sing out sister. Bye 4 now.
pax
Vicki: JP, you are a dirty, naughty, nasty boy...
She noticed! [swoon]
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We got about 6 - 8 inches of snow yesterday/last night.
And now the sun is out, but it's still very cold.
I just want the ground to emerge from the deep thaw.
Well that's a good point Hecate, but damn, does it have to get so nasty?
Well nobody here has ever damned my soul to eternal hell for not supporting Hillary Clinton.
Richardson is simply pointing out that the Prime Rib is cooked and ready for basting with the aus jus and horseradish. It's supposed to be a little pink in the middle. Carville got the point and has a quaint way of saying so.
I'm actually going to Philly for the weather!
Well, no...not really.
Cruising by to see if Obama supporters are still tonque hanging out, drooling, masturbating over the Hillary Hating. Keep your hands under the covers, friends, and go to it. It's quite a show.
Baseball season opens at 6AM (ET) on Wednesday. I'll be up and watching.
Milwaukee got 15".
From P O'Neill's post about the peeking contractors and their employers comes this link about John Brennan, CEO of one of the companies, who is...
...an intelligence adviser to Barack Obama's presidential campaign broke with his candidate’s position opposing retroactive legal protection for telecommunications companies being sued for cooperating with a dubious U.S. government domestic surveillance program.
"I do believe strongly that [telecoms] should be granted that immunity," former CIA official John Brennan told National Journal reporter Shane Harris in the interview. "They were told to [cooperate] by the appropriate authorities that were operating in a legal context."
Uh, isn't he wrong on the facts? And wrong on the law? Wow.
Prior to 9/11, there was no emergency which BushBoy had declared, so how is it "operating in a legal context" to have warrantless mass telecom info trapping???
Here's P O'Neill's post:
http://bestofbothworlds.blogspot...ws-and-
bad.html
Halfdan: Well nobody here has ever damned my soul to eternal hell for not supporting Hillary Clinton.
Not in front of your back, anyway.
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Looking like it's going to be a really splendid day here today. Somehow we always seem to get great weather around Easter -- usually better than on the 4th of July.
from the stuff s/he has been writing, it would appear that Bugs has never been involved in a church OR Bugs forgot his/her meds this AM
Chimpy is having cheese grits, that makes him a real Murkan.
P O'Neill
Whiz wit for the Half Wit?
What is the weather supposed to be like in Philly next weekend? Has anyone seen a weather report?
I can't wait until those pink lily-of-the-valley peek through the ground...
My spring bulbs are barely starting to bloom, no daffodils yet. And it's been such a crazy winter for me, that it wasn't until last week that I remembered my amaryllis bulbs-I forgot to take them out of hibernation around xmas time like I usually do.
Milwaukee got 15".
Pfft...it's all "lake effect". Doesn't count.
Cruising by to see if Obama supporters are still tonque hanging out, drooling, masturbating over the Hillary Hating. Keep your hands under the covers, friends, and go to it. It's quite a show.
Thank you, you erudite, non-vulgar, intellectually overwhelming Clinton-bot.
Good morning, pipples. Here's hoping my connection stays stable.
Cruising by to see if Obama supporters are still tonque hanging out, drooling, masturbating over the Hillary Hating. Keep your hands under the covers, friends, and go to it. It's quite a show.
BellyFull | 03.22.08 - 11:24 am | #
I love the smell of desperation in the morning- smells like victory!
Hecate,
Looks like mid-50s next weekend.
Meanwhile, there's an entire tent city springing up on one of the overpasses by the Kennedy Center and homeless people sleeping on grates just across the street from the WH.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Is anybody blogging about this? It needs to be documented and spread all over the blogosphere - since the corporate media will never see a problem there.
Jeffraham Prestonian
taking the kid to baseball practice. clear but cold. back soon.
just wanted to say that back and forth letters over at Whiskey Fire cracked me up.
ok, the panel I want to hear is beginning. later
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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Gromit, do you keep stats on all the games?
10 day forecast for Philly shows showers and temps in the mid-50's next weekend.
I suspect that bugs changed his monicker after he was caught recycling yesterday's bullshit.
blerb,
I've been in the Bay Area for Easter - beautiful time of year. Well, actually, it's beautiful there pretty much year round. I'm going to SFO for 4 days over Memorial Day.
I was in Lake Tahoe 6 years ago for Easter, come to think of it. Saw an awesome psychic there, drooled over the beauty of the area at the ski slope...(I don't ski - I sat at the lodge while my boyfriend skied).
I would be gardening furiously today, if not for the fact that we are moving and I must save my energy for the new place. Pity. I wish I could be planting stuiff there already....
Hecate,
Looks like mid-50s next weekend.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 11:27 am | #
I hope so. It's been COLD this week!
{{{Jeffraham!!!}}}
Not in front of your back, anyway.
True enough. I really don't care though, as I was never initiated into all those Democratic Party double-secret handshakes to begin with.
Did you drink liberally the other night?
10 day forecast for Philly shows showers and temps in the mid-50's next weekend.
Gromit
Palm trees grow, the rents are low, and the feeling is lay back.
We're at 55°F in Gnashvegas, right now... high of 58. It was like 73, yesterdiddy.
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Is anybody blogging about this? It needs to be documented and spread all over the blogosphere - since the corporate media will never see a problem there.
Don't worry, we can wait for the BBC report.
Palm trees grow, the rents are low, and the feeling is lay back.
Kickin' in the shade with the gangsta lean!
Projected high of 79, clear and sunny in LA.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
20...me_n_92818.html
Klassy Klasy Klassy - I sure wish the Clinton's would take their double-dealing advisors and years of lies and pretending to be liberals while setting back liberal causes 20 years and go the fuck away
Halfdan: Did you drink liberally the other night?
No; I had only planned to do every-other Thursday, so this would have been the off-week. Dunno about next week, though... still reeling from the financial blow of Big Red Ugly.
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'mornin'
Y'know, I'm wicked tired of drawing a moral equivalence between Wright, a black man preaching to a black audience, and Hagee, a white guy preaching to a white audience, as if blacks and whites are in equivalent positions in this country, with equivalent historical backgrounds, economic burdens and so on. Do 1500 jobs in sports and 1000 jobs in entertainment compensate at all for more than 1/100 in prison? For slavery, for Jim Crow?
A quick rant, but it should be a goddamned long one. And it should be given by someone other than your humble correspondent, and it should be acceptable to deliver it in a public forum without fear of being called, of all things, racist.
Rub it in, guys.
Well, I'd say the Murtha endorsement is by far the bigger story, given his stature in PA. If Richardson had wanted his endorsement to have any real value, he shouldn't have waited until now; TX would have been better. What a non-story.
Only gonna be 75 here today.
Colder tomorrow and Monday, though.
Chimpy is having cheese grits, that makes him a real Murkan.
No. To a grits purist, cheese grits are an abomination, an affectation designed by people who don't really like grits. A little pepper and a pat of butter -- the only way to eat grits. Cheese grits mark him as a transplanted Yankee.
Chelsea is the only person "made by" Clinton, btw.
"...as far as I know."
Is anybody blogging about this? It needs to be documented and spread all over the blogosphere - since the corporate media will never see a problem there.
Charlie Gibson says that the average homeless person makes $100,000 year.
God, I'm on this "netroots for Gore" mailing list (I should just unsubscribe), and you think the hatred here is bad? These e-mails that go flashing across my in-box hold more vitriol than almost anything I've ever read. Gore-bots fighting over Hillary/Obama and who Gore should endorse. (Hint, peeps, he ain't endorsing.)
For supposedly intelligent adults, these people are embarrasing.
Is anybody blogging about this? It needs to be documented and spread all over the blogosphere - since the corporate media will never see a problem there.
Lindsay, clean fucking hippie
Back in the mid-Sixties, there was a short book of mostly photographs showing the disparities between white and black DC. Within sight of the WH conditions you would have thought only existed in Mississippi. "One Nation Under God" I think it might have been called.
Only DFH's ever saw it. That's what would happen now, too.
Toons, had grits once in S. Carolina.
To me, they were an abomination. But I am a Yank, so what do I know?
Palm trees grow, the rents are low, and the feeling is lay back.
Kickin' in the shade with the gangsta lean!
Diamond in the back
Sunroof top
Diggin' the scene
With the gansta lean
Well, I'd say the Murtha endorsement is by far the bigger story, given his stature in PA. If Richardson had wanted his endorsement to have any real value, he shouldn't have waited until now; TX would have been better. What a non-story.
Oh, you think that, do you? Too bad your opinion mean zip.
.I was in Lake Tahoe 6 years ago for Easter, come to think of it. Saw an awesome psychic there, drooled over the beauty of the area at the ski slope
Tahoe is a really nice place, and I'm glad that so many people choose to go there instead of some other places where I like to go. But between you and me, if you like mountains, allow me to reccommend to you Mammoth Lakes. You'll be saying "Tahoe Schmahoe" once you've stayed there a few days.
hey sallyh
This southern boy thinks grits iz da pits.
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I'm wicked tired of drawing a moral equivalence between Wright, a black man preaching to a black audience, and Hagee, a white guy preaching to a white audience, as if blacks and whites are in equivalent positions in this country, with equivalent historical backgrounds, economic burdens and so on.
But but but
Southern whites were persecuted for owning slaves!!
Charlie Gibson says that the average homeless person makes $100,000 year.
I chose the wrong profession.
I wish Atrios would just endorse Obama, already.
if you like mountains, allow me to reccommend to you Mammoth Lakes
That's on my list! Thanks.
I do love the mountains, and will probably transplant myself somewhere in the midst of them within the next year or so.
Boy, you shoulda known by now
Eazy duz it.
Hey ProfWombat, how're you hanging?
For supposedly intelligent adults, these people are embarrasing.
Why in the world would you think they should be intelligent?
But but but
Southern whites were persecuted for owning slaves!!
Sufferin' Succotash | 03.22.08 - 11:33 am | #
It's weird that Mike Wallace and Hucksterbe have been better on this issue than Taylor Marsh.
Cheese grits mark him as a transplanted Yankee.
Cheese grits is French.
Tahoe is a really nice place, and I'm glad that so many people choose to go there instead of some other places where I like to go. But between you and me, if you like mountains, allow me to reccommend to you Mammoth Lakes. You'll be saying "Tahoe Schmahoe" once you've stayed there a few days.
blerb
I was in Vegas last year. A lot of Tahoe was on fire then.
I think it's the average foreclosed person who makes 100k.
I wish Atrios would just endorse Obama, already.
Why?
Go check out the big lefty sites that have endorsed. It ain't pretty.
I love good grits. But they are like any other ethnic food, in that they have to be made correctly (not instant, not too much cheese--if any--and not cooked to death).
sallyh: good news--they may offer me an assistantship in the BU Law School...
Why in the world would you think they should be intelligent?
cahuenga
They is us, dude.
IMHO
I'm wicked tired of drawing a moral equivalence between Wright, a black man preaching to a black audience, and Hagee, a white guy preaching to a white audience
I wasn't really trying to bring equivalence to them. I said Wright never said anything wrong (except if we live in a McCarthian 12-9-2001 "anti-american" nailing time), but that Hagee is a genocidal maniac who should be getting lots of attention.
Charlie Gibson says that the average homeless person makes $100,000 year.
leibniz♘☮ | 03.22.08 - 11:31 am |
Geez, almost half as much as a teacher.
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Why in the world would you think they should be intelligent?
Because I choose to assume the best in people until proven otherwise. That's always been my motto.
the difference between the regular trolls and the clinton trolls is very slight - clinton trolls don't use the N-word as often
let's discuss all the women Bill fucked, clinton trolls, because I can't wait for the MSM to grab hold of that one again - I so enjoyed defending Bill's intellect in those heady days -
I was in Vegas last year. A lot of Tahoe was on fire then.
And Hyman Roth tried to have Michael Corleone whacked.
Tres serieux.
Only DFH's ever saw it. That's what would happen now, too.
Adam Hominem,unbanned since 08
Just thinking that blogs - even lefty ones - are occasionally noticed by corporate media.
Naive of me, I suppose. A chink in my otherwise cynical armor.
ProfWombat, that's great!
And you can eat lunch at Ken's of Copley Square all the time
Why?
Go check out the big lefty sites that have endorsed. It ain't pretty.
Zap Rowsdower
Because his bias is hanging out in a rather embarrassing and hypocritical way. And has been for some time.
Sallyh - Grits are one of those cultural dishes that define a region. What an oat cake is to Scotland, grits are to the South.
BTW, the one time I had Scottish oat cakes, I thought they were one of the most awful things I'd ever tried to eat.
A quick rant, but it should be a goddamned long one. And it should be given by someone other than your humble correspondent, and it should be acceptable to deliver it in a public forum without fear of being called, of all things, racist.
ProfWombat
Word, Doc. Word. (Read this)
http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969
if you like mountains, allow me to reccommend to you Mammoth Lakes.
My sister lives there.
they may offer me an assistantship in the BU Law School...
Damn, that's impressive. Not surprising, tho.
I've been pretty horrified by the poverty in DC, and the number of homeless, whenever I go there. I hope under President Obama they will finally get statehood. That should be a priority.
Toons, Scottish cooking: it makes Irish cooking look good.
I'll betcha Chimp has kidney beans in his chili, too.
Ewwwwwwwww!
Steve: I wasn't talking to you, but about all too many people in this country; apologies if you thought otherwise. We agree about Hagee et al.
Because I choose to assume the best in people until proven otherwise.
Oh boy...
Cheese grits mark him as a transplanted Yankee.
Cheese grits is French.
The last person who served me cheese grits brought the recipe with her from Hattiesburg, Mississippi.
I have a Canadian friend who takes grits back to Toronto with her every time she comes down.
There are people in the South who don't like them, and people in the North who do. After a while it's sort of tiresome to see folks strive to use them as some sort of cultural benchmark.
Oh my bad, Wombat.
I've been pretty horrified by the poverty in DC, and the number of homeless, whenever I go there. I hope under President Obama they will finally get statehood. That should be a priority.
Karin Hussein | 03.22.08 - 11:38 am | #
Prior to Reagan, beggars on the side of the road was an extremely unusual sight in America.
Adam,
It's a fucking blog. Of course it's gonna be biased. Maybe he's made up his mind. Doesn't mean he has to write about it.
I'm wicked tired of drawing a moral equivalence between Wright, a black man preaching to a black audience, and Hagee, a white guy preaching to a white audience
I'd say the obtuseness regards this is quite deliberate - I mean it can't be too difficult to understand a black man's frustration with an overtly racist and greedy society
I know grits are made from hominy, but what's hominy?
Because his bias is hanging out in a rather embarrassing and hypocritical way. And has been for some time.
I totally disagree with that. He calls things as he sees them. I've been reading this blog for years, and Atrios' integrity is unmatched, afaic.
I like grits.
I like cheese grits.
And our local diner serves up bacon grits. Yum.
This really pisses me off. I am so tired of this government lying to us.
ProfWombat,
You deserve the best! Good on you!
Because his bias is hanging out in a rather embarrassing and hypocritical way. And has been for some time.
"hypocritical"
heh. Surely you jest.
Adam Hominem: I know grits are made from hominy, but what's hominy?
A lye-soaked corn abomination. Egad.
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Is anybody blogging about this? It needs to be documented and spread all over the blogosphere -
It's been like this in DC for years. Homelessness in the city seemed to decrease some during the Clinton admin., but it's back way up now, after 7 years of Bush. The settlement over by the Kennedy Center is new this winter, though, I think. There may have been one or two guys who used to camp there, but now it's a much larger group. You can see them when you head down the ramp to E St. from the Roosevelt Bridge.
It's a fucking blog. Of course it's gonna be biased. Maybe he's made up his mind. Doesn't mean he has to write about it.
Zap Rowsdower
Of course he can write about whatever he chooses. But his public position that your candidate is teh suck is at variance with his actual views, it seems to me.
Certainly at variance with what he writes almost daily.
I know grits are made from hominy, but what's hominy?
Dried corn soaked in lye, IIRC.
I've been pretty horrified by the poverty in DC, and the number of homeless, whenever I go there. I hope under President Obama they will finally get statehood. That should be a priority.
A bgger short-term priority would be giving DC a Federal payment that actually matches the local property tax revenues lost due to Federal isntallations, foreign embassies, etc..
It's been decades since the Federal payment was anywhere close to fiscal reality in the District.
I like cheese grits.
I make delicious garlic cheese grits.
The five wide-eyed Bible women sitting near me all speak in the same high squeaky voice. When one speaks all the others nod their head. The Nodding Bobbing Squeaking Mommies.
Oh boy...
cahuenga
There isn't a need here to make fun of me. I am who I am, I believe what I believe, and proudly.
.That's on my list! Thanks.
...I do love the mountains
Here's a link to a pic of the Minarets, which are just outside of Mammoth Lakes: http://content.answers.com/main/
...MinaretLake.jpg
The mountains around there really are splendid. It's right at the northern edge of the really high Sierra. There are also all kinds of secluded hot springs with volunteer-built concrete tubs in the Long Valley area to the immediate east.
Because his bias is hanging out in a rather embarrassing and hypocritical way. And has been for some time.
Hypocritical? You mean the fact that Atrios has been calling Carville an asshole for nigh on six years now?
gettin' stoopid
because we know how
A lye-soaked corn abomination. Egad.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
WTF is up with that? If it's soaked in lye, I'm surprised the Norwegians didn't invent it.
IIRC, House Dems have been trying to get statehood for DC for a long time. Naturally, the Repugs are against it.
Remember when Jesus got all his apostles crucified next to him 'cause he was all bitter about not getting to be king?
I make delicious garlic cheese grits.
Snow (D-SC)
Yum. You get that started and I'll fix some biscuits.
thanks billy
DWD: that's only impressive in that it's so frank, and so unopposed in its frankness. For everyone willing to express themselves so forthrightly, there are many who sound like concern trolls, but, not so far beneath the surface, embrace just such crap as this.
I thought particularly amusing the notion that blacks should be grateful for their 'Christian salvation'. The actual role of the Christian church in the black hisorical experience, meanwhile, has been furiously opposed by these nematodes every time a black preacher--ML King comes to mind--actually interprets Jesus' words as if he was calling for peace, or justice, or even love...
A bgger short-term priority would be giving DC a Federal payment that actually matches the local property tax revenues lost due to Federal isntallations, foreign embassies, etc..
It's been decades since the Federal payment was anywhere close to fiscal reality in the District.
Sufferin' Succotash
What we really need is a fucking economy that doesn't disenfranchise groups of people arbitrarily. But that would be socialism.
Soaking it in lye releases the niacin.
It was not doing so that made the South a home for pellagra for many years.
We should all eat something really good today, and then blog about it.
Of course he can write about whatever he chooses. But his public position that your candidate is teh suck is at variance with his actual views, it seems to me.
Translation, please?
I guess McCain installed that tire swing in the expectation that Dumbya would visit the "rustic" Arizona cabin.
To any of you mofos planning on voting for McCain if your preferred candidate is not the nominee: McCain picked UConn to go to the finals in the NCAA tourney. UConn! That's gonna be your foreign policy if you vote for McCain--calls that blow up in your face in the first round!
WTF is up with that? If it's soaked in lye, I'm surprised the Norwegians didn't invent it.
A manner in which to reconstitute dried corn. Hominy isn't all that popular nowadays. It was when people were poorer and before refrigeration.
A lye-soaked corn abomination. Egad.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
prolly better'n going hungry.
For supposedly intelligent adults, these people are embarrasing.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
I'm on the same mailing list - they are batshit nuts - why do peoploe get like this over a candidate when it should be about policy and getting it implimented - no more war mongering and welfare for the rich and corps - sound pay as you go budgets and fairness of some kind for the middle-class and the poor
Adam Hominem: WTF is up with that? If it's soaked in lye, I'm surprised the Norwegians didn't invent it.
They may have, or may not. Whoever did, they are damned for all Eternity.
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We should all eat something really good today, and then blog about it.
I will haz cheezburger!
Lindsay: every time, every single time, there's a debate about whether to franchise an individual, or a population, the Republicans want to restrict the franchise, and the Democrats to broaden it.
You'd almost think there's a pattern there of, well, not trusting the people who form the citizenry of, y'know, a democracy.
okay, i'm being called to go play outside.
see you all later.
or we could post pictures of cats.
It was not doing so that made the South a home for pellagra for many years.
Sufferin' Succotash | 03.22.08 - 11:44 am | #
Meh. We eat dirt anyway.
blerb ~
Truly gorgeous!
Nuts! ~
I know. Drives me insane. Mostly, I delete them these days, even though I do still ♥ Al Gore.
Meh. We eat dirt anyway.
"You ate sand?"
has hillary conceded yet?
Richardson knew the score. Clinton told him upfront: "I shall appoint you thrice as the cock crows, and you will swear fealty to my throne forevermore".
Episode 3 of Gone With The Wind last night. General Sherman has come and gone, Scarlett has worked her little fingers to the bone and Tara has risen again. Having gone through yet another husband, she now has money. Unlike all her peers, she has no children. (I suspect a penchant for anal sex, but the movie doesn't go there).
Rhett Butler reenters, and the DVD is put away for another night. As God Is My Witness, I will never watch this movie again.
Mammoth Lakes....My sister lives there.
her whiskeyness
Lucky gal. I'm dying to go stay there for a week again in the summer soon, but it's much more fun with multiple families, and our friends we usually do this with are too cheap to rent a condo and don't weant to drive that far.
Interesting that the lye releases niacin in the corn. Masa used to make corn tortillas has lime (not the fruit) in it. I wonder if it is there for the same reason.
Speaking of Coke salesman Carville, why is anyone listening to the brilliant Democratic strategist that lost control of both houses of Congress for the first time in 40 years when he was calling the shots?
You'd almost think there's a pattern there of, well, not trusting the people who form the citizenry of, y'know, a democracy.
Thomas Jefferson. Aristocrats and democrats.
ProfWombat, I hear ya.
Every time I get disgusted with the Democrats - which I do, often - I remember that at least they do try to help people who aren't billionaires once in a while.
Nuts: I agree, it's hardly obtuse. It's racist, and entirely deliberate. All the more reason, therefore, to praise Obama's reference to white resentments in his speech the other day.
It was when people were poorer and before refrigeration.
where you been that you missed the backsliding?
Hypocritical? You mean the fact that Atrios has been calling Carville an asshole for nigh on six years now?
Halfdan
troll? that's dead accurate - please discuss the hypocracy you speak of - the facts just don't look good on hill - hillary and her hubby arecreeps like you... fuck off - hey, who ended welfare?
"You ate sand?"
Sandlappers!
Thomas Jefferson
Tommy J was an enigma. He wrote for the ages, but was a slaveholder.
I'm on the same mailing list
Politics have been more akin to sporting events in this country than intelligent debate over governance. People get their team, usually by birth, and then root for them blindly for the rest of their lives.
What many people fail to grasp is that ALL political parties in this country are "our team". We get to pick and choose who is on the team and who gets cut, and we should be able to freely criticize or honor any team member regardless of party without running a gauntlet of mindless partisans, but that is not the case. It is a sport.
Interesting that the lye releases niacin in the corn. Masa used to make corn tortillas has lime (not the fruit) in it. I wonder if it is there for the same reason.
Yes.
Toons, Scottish cooking: it makes Irish cooking look good.
Most ethnic cuisine is based on what the poor and working classes traditionally ate -- and were able to grow or acquire locally. That's why I think the ethnic foods from warmer climates (the Mediterranean basin, Mexico and Central America, India and southern Asia, etc.) tend to be better tasting than northern European ethnic stuff -- they were able to grow and acquire a wider range of foodstuffs, which, when inventively put together to make the difficult to get or expensive stuff go further, made a great cuisine. Poor and working class Northern Europeans got stuck with some rather unpalletable staples, with not a lot of variety to stretch them out. At least, that's my humble opinion.
Q. Can the media whores be bought off by some barbequed ribs and a few drinks?
A. You betcha.
To any of you mofos planning on voting for McCain if your preferred candidate is not the nominee: McCain picked UConn to go to the finals in the NCAA tourney. UConn! That's gonna be your foreign policy if you vote for McCain--calls that blow up in your face in the first round!
Florida
Was the UConn pick related to his manlove for Droopy Joe?
back inj a few
My bracket not looking too good in the harsh light of day.
Q. Can the media whores be bought off by some barbequed ribs and a few drinks?
A. You betcha.
Hell...so can I.
What does that make me?
Q. Can the media whores be bought off by some barbequed ribs and a few drinks?
A. You betcha.
Lime Rickey
The ribs were probably just an afterthought.
Interesting that the lye releases niacin in the corn. Masa used to make corn tortillas has lime (not the fruit) in it. I wonder if it is there for the same reason.
CaO + H2O ↔ Ca(OH)2
Calcium hydroxide (Ca (OH2)) is a 'milder' form of lye
We should all eat something really good today, and then blog about it.
I am going out for Turkish food, and I promise to make a full report tonight.
Do they really use sodium hydroxide and not lime to treat the corn now? I like hominy, anyhow. Good pozole, which is pork and hominy soup, is a great thing. And it goes quite well with chile colorado/verde too. Cheese grits, OTOH, meh.
Was the UConn pick related to his manlove for Droopy Joe?
P O'Neill
Probably. Funny how Tampa's become upset city. Spent the afternoon yesterday drinking beers at a rooftop joint on the Bay, right next to the Times Forum. As each game ended, the fans of the upset team would pour in and start drowning their sorrows.
therefore, to praise Obama's reference to white resentments in his speech the other day.
ProfWombat |
Yeah, the speech was terrific and had me so excited about the prospect of changing the discourse but that's a vain hope - the speech will live long after this campaign - unfortunately though the msm is doing all it can to forget it ever happened
Clinton stinks. Obama stinks.
Horrible, awful candidates. Here we are, with our best chance in years to win, and win easily, and we are fielding shit for candidates.
And I'll just betchoo that Obama's got some crappy scandal/closet skeleton that's gonna come out in the general and sink us.
Al Gore! Save us!
I guess Richardson will be retiring after he finishes his term. I thought he would be running for the senate but since he thinks age is an issue and Senator Clinton tooooo old
(he is three weeks younger) he will be retiring.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
as for Carville's statement
When Obama stood by his minister loyalty was a wonderful thing.
now it means nothing
Oh by the Richardson feh
Today's lunch will be Mexican
CaO + H2O ↔ Ca(OH)2
Calcium hydroxide (Ca (OH2)) is a 'milder' form of lye
billy b
Is there going to be a pop quiz later today?
Oops. Forgot to add, lime= CaO
I think that I'm going here tonight.
Politics have been more akin to sporting events in this country than intelligent debate over governance. People get their team, usually by birth, and then root for them blindly for the rest of their lives.
Sad, but true I'm afraid. Though we have had some people here say that they switched teams. And my parents were very different from each other politically. Their main reason for voting seemed to be to cancel each other out.
with not a lot of variety to stretch them out. At least, that's my humble opinion.
Toonscribe: Grumpy | 03.22.08 - 11:51 am | #
There was a hilarious story a couple years back of some kid who won a savory pie competition in the UK and then was disqualified when it was found that he used the forbidden ingredient garlic!
Today's lunch will be Mexican
I made a nice tuna and shrimp pasta salad last night that's been resting all night.
It's about to get consumed.
When I hurt, hurtin' runs off of my shoulders.
Their main reason for voting seemed to be to cancel each other out.
My mother is from Texas and my father grew up in Berkely!
plantsman burbles:
Oh, you think that, do you? Too bad your opinion mean zip.
Ah yes. The "casual poetry" of the Obama campaign. "Respectful, inclusive." Thanks!
billy b: Oops. Forgot to add, lime= CaO
The official cigar of The Sopranos. A Gnashvegan company!
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Clinton stinks. Obama stinks.
Nuh uh. Compare to Kerry and Dukakis. Our current flag-bearers are far better.
Was the UConn pick related to his manlove for Droopy Joe?
That is even worse than if he actually thought they would do it.
People get their team, usually by birth, and then root for them blindly for the rest of their lives.
My mom, a lifelong Republican, became a Democrat during Nixon's first term. I was so proud of her. If she were still alive she would be mad at Reid and Pelosi.
I am going out for Turkish food, and I promise to make a full report tonight.
Karin Hussein
Well nobody here has ever damned my soul to eternal hell for not supporting Hillary Clinton.
Halfdan
No, but I've been called a liar, stupid, an idiot and a sexist who is biased for supporting Hillary.
The whole damb country's full of morons. I worked my ass off for Kerry, and he was a big boring POS loser. How could we lose against that idiot in the WH?
I'm reading that both BO and HC are both losing in head to head polls against McCain. WTF?
There's no one in a position of authority at any of the major news outlets who is smart enough or good enough at their job to realize how pointless the Wright "scandal" is. But it's all they've got, and since the corporate prime directive is to keep the GOP in power, they're making the most of it. The only bright spot is that it gave Obama an opportunity to make a good speech, and that the media may be overreaching on it--you can only whore a scandal so many times before the sheep start to lose interest.
"Q. Can the media whores be bought off by some barbequed ribs and a few drinks?
A. You betcha."
why don't We buy 'em some, then?
Politics have been more akin to sporting events in this country than intelligent debate over governance. People get their team, usually by birth, and then root for them blindly for the rest of their lives.
Which is why I don't buy the argument that Democrats are smart and Republicans are dumb. Most people pick their politics for irrational (or selfish) reasons, and then they use logic to justify it. Which isn't to say that Democratic logic isn't more better than the Republican kind...
Ah yes. The "casual poetry" of the Obama campaign. "Respectful, inclusive." Thanks!
People supporting Hillary have been equally as nasty. Including the candidate.
Haven't decided yet on dinner tonight. Probably either ribeye tacos mexican style or a revisitation of last week's BBQ baby back and beef short ribs, this time with greens instead of cole slaw.
I'm reading that both BO and HC are both losing in head to head polls against McCain. WTF?
Because it's March, for one. And people are fucking sick to death of this thing already.
I'm reading that both BO and HC are both losing in head to head polls against McCain. WTF?
YellowDogJen
McCain hasn't had to campaign yet. When he goes head-to-head with an actual opponent and the predictable torrent of batshit insanity begins to spew forth from his mouth, things will change.
I know grits are made from hominy, but what's hominy?
Adam Hominem
_______________________________
I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect hominy.
PS: To a grits purist, adding cheese to grits is like putting ketchup on your broken glass.
with not a lot of variety to stretch them out. At least, that's my humble opinion.
we forget what a revolution in diet there was after Columbus reached the New World. Imagine, Ireland with no potatoes. Russian Jews with no latkes. Italians with no tomatoes. No hot peppers in Asian food.
How can we Dems fight amongst ourselves knowing what Del Shannon sacrificed in the name of liberty?
why don't We buy 'em some, then?
jdw
Good question. What would they do for a New England Clam Bake?
I'm reading that both BO and HC are both losing in head to head polls against McCain. WTF?
That's because it's bullshit, Jen.
There's some serious friggin' in the riggin' going on in the form of push polling by the media as relates to McCadaver.
He's running as a carbon-copy of Bush, the most unpopular president in history. McCadaver's approval ratings are in the 40's.
No hot peppers in Asian food.
Are all hot peppers native to the Americas? I thought there were some varieties from Southeast Asia.
PS: To a grits purist, adding cheese to grits is like putting ketchup on your broken glass.
nonsense.
grits w/ butter and salt for breakfast, cheese grits for lunch, shrimp grits for dinner.
sheesh.
No, but I've been called a liar, stupid, an idiot and a sexist who is biased for supporting Hillary.
qlª | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 11:57 am | #
But if you give me weed, whites, and wine, and you show me a sign ...
I've been called a liar, stupid, an idiot and a sexist who is biased for supporting Hillary.
You don't even have to "support" her - just not partake in the Tiger Beat-esque enthusiasm for Hopey McChange.
God forbid you should question his voting record involving the war. HERESY!!!
why don't We buy 'em some, then?
jdw
Good question. What would they do for a New England Clam Bake?
Lime Rickey
Don't go overboard on the food. I recall Dumbya served hot dogs and booze at his "ranch."
Y'know, I'm wicked tired of drawing a moral equivalence between Wright, a black man preaching to a black audience, and Hagee, a white guy preaching to a white audience, as if blacks and whites are in equivalent positions in this country, with equivalent historical backgrounds, economic burdens and so on.
Instead I'm being forced to have to consider the moral equivalence between Obama's loyalty to a long-time friend, and Bill Clinton's use of the same person for his pathetic forgive-me photo ops. gag me.
No, but I've been called a liar, stupid, an idiot and a sexist who is biased for supporting Hillary.
But you know what? You're a damn saint...that trumps all of that bullshit.
Toonscribe, I believe black pepper comes from the far East, but capsicum came from the Americas.
Al Gore! Save us!
What did Pat Tillman say?
...just not partake in the Tiger Beat-esque enthusiasm for Hopey McChange
Some people just don't hear themselves.
That's because it's bullshit, Jen.
billy b | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 12:01 pm |
I certainly hope so, but I talk to enuff idiots in meatspace to get me worried.
If Obama (or Hillary, whichever) fucks this up, I swear I'm moving to Mexico.
How can Richardson live with himself? Watching the Superbowl with Bill is the most sacred bond of all!
Now will all the wetbacks in the US do Richardson's bidding and illegally register to vote 1,000times apiece, or will they await Abu G's dogwhistle radio instructions?
Obvs, it's all good for McCain.
GravatarToonscribe, I believe black pepper comes from the far East, but capsicum came from the Americas.
Karin Hussein | 03.22.08 - 12:03 pm | #
Amazing isn't it - because chilis are so core to Korean and Indian and Thai food now.
There's some serious friggin' in the riggin' going on in the form of push polling by the media as relates to McCadaver.
He's running as a carbon-copy of Bush, the most unpopular president in history. McCadaver's approval ratings are in the 40's.
billy b
I also wonder if the phone polling is limited to land lines. Lots of younger people, including me (no longer young), don't even have land lines in their homes.
Samples could be skewed to the geezer base.
Interesting that the lye releases niacin in the corn. Masa used to make corn tortillas has lime (not the fruit) in it.
Lime or limestone from the grinding?
All this talk of grits makes me think I should go to one of my town's fine dining establishments - Waffle House - and get some.
But what I dine upon depends on what I get at the grocery store today. Sigh. I hate grocery shopping.
...just not partake in the Tiger Beat-esque enthusiasm for Hopey McChange
That is biggest load of crap you ever written here.
No, but I've been called a liar, stupid, an idiot and a sexist who is biased for supporting Hillary.
Well whoever said that is a stupid, lying, sexist idiot.
I actually agree with most of what ol' Rev Wright said, but lordy lordy, Obama shoulda seen this coming. I think he can overcome it...
but there'd better not be anymore crap in his background!
Radio is telling me that while the Chimpster is eating his cheese grits and coconut pie, he's thinking of the troops this weekend.
Meanwhile, three more soldiers are dead. Crap.
I'm reading that both BO and HC are both losing in head to head polls against McCain. WTF?
YellowDogJen
Wouldn't it be great if we could just toss all the driveby troll-bots in a pit together and let then fight it out?
Anyway, McStain is only winning in the Gallup tracking and Zogby polls. That Zogby poll is full of shit like every other recent Zogby poll, and Gallup uses a ridiculously Republican-friendly turnout model. Consider also that in the recent the WSJ/NBC poll, "generic Democrat" is winning 50%-37%. Those are the kind of numbers that gave us 2006. And yes, I think McStain is currently near his peak support, because sooner or later the maggots angrily boiling just beneath his sallow skin will begin to show through....
faux nes report this morning: dems downward spiral. paraphrasing:
"it seems that longer as the primaries go on, the more the dems eat their own. all mccain has to do is stay out of public view and his poll numbers get better and better. the dems who support the other dem candidate must be really stupid, you can't blame the other dems from walking away from them."
for once, fox reports the truth. of course, since they are prime motivators of the dem infighting (much of which is being done by under-cover pugs), it's not surprising.
Interesting that the lye releases niacin in the corn. Masa used to make corn tortillas has lime (not the fruit) in it.
Lime or limestone from the grinding?
Elmer, PHD (horrible)
The masa package in my cupboard lists lime as an ingredient.
Also, there was no polenta or potato vodka before Columbus.
did you know that wafle house only accepts cash? they may be the last sit-down restaurant in the country to refuse visa. even mcdevil's accepts plastic now.
jon | 03.22.08 - 12:05 pm
Fuckwuzzat?
Well whoever said that is a stupid, lying, sexist idiot.
Halfdan
Oh, I don't mind. I rarely pay attention to them and as I've said a gazillion times, preferring Hillary doesn't mean I hate Obama. Whoever is the nominee, and it certainly looks like it will be Obama, has my vote and support in spite of some of his supporters.
Thanks for your concern, YellowDogJen. Obama might have banged his lobbyists or pulled a stunt in his airplane that killed over 140 sailors or was involved in the Keating Five or cheated on his first wife. Those scandals sunk McSame.
If Obama (or Hillary, whichever) fucks this up, I swear I'm moving to Mexico.
I've always thought that Bill Clinton was the best political campaigner I've seen. He proved it in many campaigns for gov in AR and in two presidential campaigns.
Obama's beating the Clintons. He hasn't started running against McCadaver as yet.
all mccain has to do is stay out of public view and his poll numbers get better and better.
Sooner or later, he'll have to stand in the full glare of the sun.
but lordy lordy, Obama shoulda seen this coming
What slime-coated hole did you crawl out of? Crawl back in, please.
No. Atrios isn't taking a side in this. What was I thinking?
Are all hot peppers native to the Americas?
Yes. Black pepper is unrelated to chili pepper. Chili peppers are thought to have been introduced to India by the Portuguese, which would explain why South Indian cooking is often hotter than in other regions.
Sooner or later, he'll have to stand in the full glare of the sun.
Lime Rickey | 03.22.08 - 12:10 pm | #
but he doesn't have to stand in the sun - he only needs enough grit to stand in the lime light.
and considering who controls those lights, i don't expect them to be too bright.
The masa package in my cupboard lists lime as an ingredient.
Willendorf Hussein Venus
Ah, I was thinking more of the original homemade Mexican stuff.
Of course, that could be akin to the fanous "calcium added" in meat products, which just means bone meal...
pulled a stunt in his airplane that killed over 140 sailors
There is zero evidence of this. If you continue to repeat this nonsense, keep in mind that these conspiracists go on to blame everything on Zionists.
What slime-coated hole did you crawl out of? Crawl back in, please.
That was rather untoward.
Jen's posted here for years.
That is biggest load of crap you ever written here.
Snow (D-SC)
You should have been here last night.
Every time I get disgusted with the Democrats - which I do, often - I remember that at least they do try to help people who aren't billionaires once in a while.
Lindsay, clean fucking hippie
Now that we've been told it's a CRIME to hire a prostitute, will the Senate expell Diaper Dave Vitter when they return from Easter break?
vindalooooo!
.faux nes report this morning: dems downward spiral. paraphrasing:
That spiral stops very soon. We knew this was the big sownside of having a close race for our nomination, but it won't go on much longer, and then the cameras will turn mercilessly towards Lumpy.
Hey, blerb, stfu. I've been talking with/to Atrios for goin' on 7 yrs, you pos. I can say what I want. I say what I think.
FOAD, jerk. Crawl into your own hole.
and then the cameras will turn mercilessly towards Lumpy.
blerb | 03.22.08 - 12:13 pm | #
again, i ask, who is behind those cameras doing this supposed turning?
Cheese *in* your grits is fine. Cheese replacing your grits is not.
More evidence of it than Kerry shooting himself to get the purple heart.
There is zero evidence of this. If you continue to repeat this nonsense, keep in mind that these conspiracists go on to blame everything on Zionists.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 12:12 pm | #
there is zero evidence because his father and grandfather were admirals. getting rid of evidence is a standard republican technique.
As long as they're both running the rethugs don't know which one to slander.
Ari Flescher has a feature length film purporting to be a biography of Hillary. It's already in the can. Makes me feel good it does to think of all the money he wasted on that one.
Sheets are mine! I planted my flag.
Now that we've been told it's a CRIME to hire a prostitute, will the Senate expell Diaper Dave Vitter when they return from Easter break?
Gimlet
Nuh-uh. It sez right in the Constitution, IOKIYAR.
Lemon Curry?
I believe black pepper comes from the far East, but capsicum came from the Americas.
There is this -- from wikipedia:
Sichuan pepper (or Szechuan pepper) is the outer pod of the tiny fruit of a number of species in the genus Zanthoxylum (most commonly Z. piperitum, Z. simulans, Z. sancho and Z. schinifolium), widely grown and consumed in Asia as a spice. Despite the name, it is not related to black pepper or to chili peppers. It is widely used in the cuisine of Sichuan, China, from which it takes its name, as well as Tibetan, Bhutanese, Nepalese, Japanese and Konkani cuisines, among others.
It is known in Chinese as huājiāo (花椒; literally "flower pepper"); a lesser-used name is shānjiāo (山椒; literally "mountain pepper"; not to be confused with Tasmanian mountain pepper). In Japanese, it is 山椒 sanshō, using the same Chinese characters as shanjiao. In Tibetan, it is known as g.yer ma. In Konkani it is known as tepal or tirphal [1]. In America, it is sold as fagara or flower pepper as well as Sichuan pepper.
I think I've made it very damned clear I don't like either of them - the candidates, I mean, but I hate the pukes and what they've done to my beloved nation and the world far, far more.
I'd vote for a trashcan over McCain, so I'll vote for the Dem. But the Dems do seem to have a way to find a way to lose, don't they, and George, never forget:
IOKIYAR
there is zero evidence because his father and grandfather were admirals. getting rid of evidence is a standard republican technique.
There is zero evidence because it didn't happen.
SHEETZ!!!
I've noticed the Obama supporters in the "real" world are much less doctrinaire than his devotees on the internet. I've yet to hear a "meatspace" supporter vow to sit out November if Obama isn't the nominee (of course, this is mainly a charming characteristic of the Orange Satan / MyLeftWing group). And the ones I've come across aren't consumed by Hatred of the Clintoris, either.
FOAD, jerk. Crawl into your own hole.
YellowDogJen | 03.22.08 - 12:13 pm | #
see? it's working. anything anyone says about either hillary or obama is taken as a vitriolic attack now. "he should have seen this coming" certainly was not. and folks who don't know each other but should be on the same side are at each other's throats.
meaning, of course, 90% of americans (the onces who didn't get the tax cuts.)
ya gotta admit, karl rove is a genius.
There is zero evidence because it didn't happen.
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 12:16 pm | #
Actually, it did, and his running off to another assignment was the real evidence that he was to blame. You can defend the indefensible all you want, but you're wrong on this one.
Hey, blerb, stfu. I've been talking with/to Atrios for goin' on 7 yrs, you pos. I can say what I want. I say what I think.
FOAD, jerk. Crawl into your own hole.
YellowDogJen
I don't care how long you've been around, I will tell you what I think of you. If you have really been around that long, then you should know how not to sound like another one in our collection of offensive concern trolls, i.e. you should stick to the truth and not use racially charged language in making your flippant little points. I will say no more.
I didn't say anything racially charged. I expect BO to be the candidate, and I am worried that might be something else the MSM can dig up about him and inflate the way they do everything else.
I don't think the Clintons have any secrets left, frankly.
wanker owls
Ari Flescher has a feature length film purporting to be a biography of Hillary.
We can count on that to be almost as honest as a White House press secretary.
"Q. Can the media whores be bought off by some barbequed ribs and a few drinks?
A. You betcha."
why don't We buy 'em some, then?
jdw
Obama did. MoDo was complaining that he was talking to her while she was covered with barbecue sauce on his plane.
I've noticed the Obama supporters in the "real" world are much less doctrinaire than his devotees on the internet...
Who tend to drop gigantic chunks of feces such as this:
And I think that a Hillary candidacy will unite the republican party in the south like nothing else.
fourlegsgood, stingrayer | Homepage | 03.22.08 - 12:14 am | #
A _white woman_ will unite the _repuclican party in the south_ more than an _african american man_.
Mr. Clinton had told his wife’s campaign that he had received several assurances from Mr. Richardson that he would not endorse Mr. Obama. One adviser who spoke to Mr. Clinton on Friday said that the former president was surprised by the Richardson endorsement, but described Mr. Clinton as more philosophical than angry about it.
In politics, your word is your word. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and make fun of Carville, but any politician would look askance at Richardson for going back on his word.
Susie:
Do you really believe the Clinton campaign's "spin" on this? Are you that credulous?
Do you really believe the Clinton campaign's "spin" on this?
Well yes, Richardson himself said HE HADN'T EVEN TOLD BILL YET. I find that absolutely shocking. I'm not kidding, that's one of the rudest things I've ever heard of a politician doing. He was in Bill's fucking cabinet, and he couldn't tell him that he was throwing his wife under the bus? Wow!
I covered politics for 20 years (in the suburban GOP equivalent of the Daley Dem machine) and worked on a major mayoral campaign last year with Obama's communication's consultants.
If you have to ask that question, my guess is you're the credulous one.
I agree with bugs and Carville, Richardson is a traitor.
Isn't it ironic that when Richardson defended HRC, he was schmoozing for the VP position. But now that he's endorsed Mr. empty suit, he's a great leader of the Dem party?
He's been a Pandering Panda Bear from the get go, and not a very loyal friend either to the people that brought him to the dance. Richardson is going with the apparent winning horse so he can maybe get an ambassadoreship. Suck up.
"Ah, yes. James Carville, the feeble, ineffective Rove of our team. Marries ugly Republican women instead of blowing guys in airport restrooms. He's an asshole."
Y must me another Obamabot, wanting to change the way things are done in WA.
Carville's logic seems to be that once a member of the Clinton official family, always a member. If loyalty was owed to the President, extended loyalty is also due to the President's wife.
Which is a whole lot like the political logic of the Bush family.
Don't know about anybody else, but I'm getting real sick of this dynasty shit. THAT logic died when Bobby Kennedy did.
Judas? Jesus Hillary Christ! What a bunch of skanks ... But most of the time Carville does good fighting the bad guys, and I still think Obama should appoint Hillary to SCOTUS if he gets the chance.
"GravatarDoes Obama have to responsible for evey sentence that comes out of his pastor's mouth!?
This "scandal" is so incredibly lame."
Good question, does Hillary have to be responsible for every sentence that comes out of any of her supporters' mouths? Use the same standards across the board and Obama supporters don't look like cultists.
"all of Obama's new voters and many traditional Democrats (African Americans and many educated liberals) will stay home in November."
By the same token, I as a dyed-in-the-wool Dem am seriously thinking of staying home in Nov. Let's see how well Obama does with his African-American and "educated" liberal voting block then. The "un-educated" blue collar workers (the base) may stay home too or vote for McCain. How's that work for you arrogant, full-of-yourself, Obama is Hope in an Empty Suit, assholes?
Obama and his Obamabots have caused the division in the Dem party, not HRC. Your (and his) attacks on her integrity and decency have caused many of us who remember the Peace and Prosperity of the 1990 want to turn away from you and your candidate.
Fucking Carville is married to the nastiest Republican woman in America. He has the right to talk?
"It's the bitch, stupid!"
Silver is up to about $500 per ounce, Richardson is upside-down in his mortgage, yada, yada..... presto, all is well in Obama Platitude Town. Trees were involved.
Richardson is the consummate opportunist, nothing more.
I think Carville is enjoying this too much.
Not surprising that a DLC type, strident supporter of "free" trade like Richardson would endorse another DLC type and supporter of "free" trade like Obama.
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