I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
It sure is.
Sure is lonely up here.
Maybe I should go downstairs and tell people about the new thread...
Yeah, I'll do that.
They'll be here any minute now.
Only because work is for suckers.
If Americans are truly the hardest working people in the world, isn't that actually a bad thing?
Not for their bosses.
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agreed.
I thought all this technology and stuff was around to help us do work less.
Atrios is a dirty fucking hippie!
Get a job, ya bum!
The Free Market dictates that higher productivity leads directly to higher wages, right? Right?
DOOMED
bye for now 
I'm doing my best to bring that stereotype down.
White trash deserves to get fucked. Thinking people don't. Ignorant fucking dead-weight filth, the country can't afford them any more.
Where have I heard this before?
Depends. Are you the slave or the slaveholder?
Yes it is Americans being the hardest working is a bad thing
Unless you are James Brown!!!
Hah .... Good God!!!! Ain't it funky now.
Starting to feel to me like it's a bad thing. I'm not in the best shape to handle all my demands at the moment, admittedly, but even when I am, it still feels insane.
It's GOOD to have three jobs! It's a GOOD thing!
No vacations, fewer protections, afraid to organize, flat wages for a generation, sent their wives off to work and got less than equal pay ...
... and all the while we're told this is natural and normal.
No wonder America lost its fucking mind on September 11th. It's a nation of craven cowards looking for someone to grovel to.
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If I could get a job drinking beer and fishing I'd be a hardworking son of a gun.
I'm doing my best to bring that stereotype down.
Subvert the dominant paradigm!
Yeah, fuck work. It's just a job anyways.
"Three jobs, that's uniquely american"
Hah .... Good God!!!! Ain't it funky now.
Too hot in the hot tub!
OWWWWWWWW!!!
I'm doing my best to bring that stereotype down.
Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?
are they really the hardest working? shouldnt an economist know this stuff?
Joba Chamberlain really looks like Babe Ruth.
It isn't quite Dickensian yet though.
T'other day, a co-worker was talking about americans as the hardest-working, most productive in the world.
I told him that wasn't necessarily a good thing.
Gonna make you sweat-ah!
Gonna burn your flesh-ah!!
OWWWWW!!!
Where have I heard this before?
Homosexual Activist
In Virginia's eugenics laws from the early 20th century?
We all had a good laugh!
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It isn't quite Dickensian yet though.
Jay C.
Shut up and eat your gruel!
Joba Chamberlain really looks like Babe Ruth
It's just the steroids.
No wonder America lost its fucking mind on September 11th. It's a nation of craven cowards looking for someone to grovel to.
This is particularly true of those vast majorities that hate the Bush administration and the U.S. occupation of Iraq.
Right?
I find myself working less and less. As long as I have money for necessities I'm okay. I hate paying taxes to fund wars.
Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?
Sallyh
I outsourced the newsletter to a cadre of 12-year olds from Bangalore, and fired myself to increase productivity. I don't know what I would do without them.
Jay C, all I know is that right now, my formerly loved job is really stressing me out.
I outsourced the newsletter to a cadre of 12-year olds from Bangalore, and fired myself to increase productivity. I don't know what I would do without them.
Jay C.
That explains last months issue
that said in bold "Save us from Master Jay, he never feeds us"
I remember a story in Bloomberg a few months back about some big German union winning significant pay raises for its members. The emphasis of the story was on how "bad" it was for the German economy because it represented a lowering of productivity.
High productivity= more work for less pay
The only folks who ultimately benefit from that are the rich folks pulling the strings.
Here he is....Mr Please Please.....Express Yourself........Try Me..........The Hardest Working Man In Show Business..........
Jaaaaaaames Brown!!!
The only options besides working to the grave are:
1) Becoming French; or
2) Submitting to Sharia law or something.
We can't take that chance.
This is particularly true of those vast majorities that hate the Bush administration and the U.S. occupation of Iraq.
Right?
Homosexual Activist
Only if you jump in your Fucktardis™ and travel back several years, yes.
I love applying polls from, say, 2005 - 2008 all the way back to 2001! Especially on redstate.com
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Starting to feel to me like it's a bad thing. I'm not in the best shape to handle all my demands at the moment, admittedly, but even when I am, it still feels insane.
No kidding. Since this time a year ago, I'm teaching in three new courses and have become acting chair of a department I've never been a member of. And both departments are shrinking, so am pretty surely adding still more teaching next semester.
Uniquely American, ain't it?
Did you know that Joba Chamberlain is part native American? That doesn't say anything about his size . . .
No, because we have more stuff.
We win!
Gromit, in a way it's a blessing for the moment, but part of my job is to mentor up and coming math teachers.
I have NO mentees this semester, and had none in the fall.
If Americans are truly the hardest working people in the world, isn't that actually a bad thing?
Problem is that they aren't the deepest thinkers.
One of my favorite rants. American productivity is the highest in the world. Wouldn't be a bad thing were wages keeping up, but not so, while corporate profits have, at least until recently, been rising smartly. Rather than celebrate the fact, we should take it as evidence that American workers are getting screwed, even if they still have jobs.
Yeah Sallyh, for us it's Tax Season Craziness. Instead of an alarm, I woke up to a phone call from boss this morning. Huzzah.
Also, best line from a feature on George Clooney in this week's New Yorker?
When talking about suicide bombers' motiviation, he's reported to have said: "Seventy virgins? Hell, give me eight pros"
Jay C, becoming French may not be such a bad thing. Especially if you drink the wine in Alsace-Lorraine.
Uniquely American, ain't it?
Gromit
Will teach subjects with which I have a passing acquaintance for food.
Someone should devise a measure for CEO productivity.
I'd bet there's actually an inverse proportionality. The ones with the highest compensation are the ones most likely to be running their companies into the ground.
{{{Hey ProfWombat!!!}}}
I shouldn't be picky but I hate when jerkface Manny gets a hit and my sweetie Big Papi doesn't.
It takes a lot of surplus value to maintain our CEOs in the lifestyle they've come to expect.
It is curious to overhear an American proudly tell a European that Americans work so hard. The reaction is always one of pity, constructive criticism, and of course why one would perceive that to be a good thing.
Murkins aren't the tallest anymore, and when you factor in vacation time, health care, and satisfaction variables, we're a long way from the top in standard of living.
Yes, give me the French summer schedule NOW. Want!
Workin' hard or hardly workin'?
Problem is that they aren't the deepest thinkers.
Terry
Profound. Did you come up with that?
Aw Jill, Manny is like a cartoon character or a muppet or something.
Someone should devise a measure for CEO productivity.
CEOs don't care about CEO productivity, it's all about who's got the biggest yacht, or who laid off the most workers.
I love applying polls from, say, 2005 - 2008 all the way back to 2001! Especially on redstate.com.
You're the one who is saying that Americans are this or are that or want this or want that. Well, you and others here:
Problem is that they aren't the deepest thinkers.
Mister Dynamite, Mister Outasight, a legend in his own time, the Godfather of Soul, let's bring him on right now, JAMES BROWN!!!!!
I have NO mentees this semester, and had none in the fall.
So you've become dementeed? 
I still haters him Jay C.
I need to remember to print out an extension form for my taxes. I guess I should put it on the list, but I'm so disgusted with this government, I don't even care anymore. But I'll do it.
hey sallyh--howyadoon?
Rather than celebrate the fact, we should take it as evidence that American workers are getting screwed, even if they still have jobs.
ProfWombat
Well, for some time now, announcements of large-scale layoffs by US corporations have been met by stock traders yelling, quote, woohoo.
That should give a thinking person pause, right there.
You're the one who is saying that Americans are this or are that or want this or want that.
Dumbass thinks I'm talking about September 11th, 2008?
Get me, I'm a fucking prophet!
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American productivity is the highest in the world
How are you measuring that?
peace and humptiness forever
Profound. Did you come up with that?
annie
Reading your posts?
F-F-F-Fun C-C-C-City!
Seeing the air coming out of the Messiah Hussein GodDamnAmerica Obama Whoopee Cushion...As We Speak...
You Go, Insulting Elitist GodDamnAmerica Dude!
Geez, sheets calling would be nice.
You know?
Dumbass thinks I'm talking about September 11th, 2008?
If you're referring to me, actually, no, I don't.
my deep thought:
liebrman was the democratic vp candidate 8 years ago - think about that ...
so was it a always the case that he had a first allegiance to israel and that WE never knew about it?
Aw Jill, Manny is like a cartoon character or a muppet or something.
When the aggie troll feels the need to be abusive towards the women here, he alway puts his dress first.
What a sick fuck.
Manny is like a cartoon character or a muppet or something.
Dr Teeth or Animal?
Ahhhh...
brian is a real deep thinker.
Yeah........
Get me, I'm a fucking prophet!
ding ding ding
On the one hand Russian banks are less honest than a Soviet journalist and a tool of the Mafiya-of-Four-Lands. On the other hand they are staffed by Russian girls (site itself nsfw).
The Bobs: Looks like you've been missing a lot of work lately.
Peter: I wouldn't say I've been "missing" it, Bob...
You Go, Insulting Elitist GodDamnAmerica Dude!
Lubyanka
"I thinki most americans' would not pick lettuce for$50 an hour:"
_john MCain
When the aggie troll feels the need to be abusive towards the women here, he alway puts his dress first.
What a sick fuck.
Richard
What pisses him off is that the women here won't take his shit.
If you're referring to me, actually, no, I don't.
Homosexual Activist
I'm just touched that you'd take the time to pull some stranger's dick out of your mouth and type that.
Really, I am.
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Geez, sheets calling would be nice.
You know?
I did.
Yes, and George B ush sr. knew how a gracery scanner worked!
Seeing the air coming out of the Messiah Hussein GodDamnAmerica Obama Whoopee Cushion...As We Speak...
stackdacit -
Obama's kicking ass and taking names.
What the fuck are you talking about, you fucking idjit?
I'm just touched that you'd take the time to pull some stranger's dick out of your mouth and type that.
Hey, thanks. You're a right-thinking human being, it's clear.
If Americans are truly the hardest working people in the world, isn't that actually a bad thing?
Let me go ask the 9 year old working in a glass factory on the subcontinent.
Geez, sheets calling would be nice.
You know?
From the previous thread...
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bloggus | 04.12.08 - 5:35 pm | #
- American productivity is the highest in the world
How are you measuring that?
Homosexual Activist
The semen in your bath-mat.
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Reading your posts?
That's almost a sentence.
wŇÓ†!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
'Sup, my brother?
Whenever I hear someone lauding productivity gains, I check my wallet.
Swift Kids for Truth
What a bunch of bullshit. Talk about using kids.
Why you do this to me, Gordo? Why?
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bloggus | 04.12.08 - 5:35 pm | #
My fault, I came on after that I guess.
The semen in your bath-mat.
You hate gay people, we get it.
That's almost a sentence.
annie
And you're completely an idiot, Butler.
I don't fuckin' care if it is a parody. We need to move away from this bullshit, and quickly.
Tim Horton Museum, Cochrane, Ontario
Whenever I hear someone lauding productivity gains, I check my wallet.
SteveLG
Better check your boss'. Productivity goes up and wages don't, but "markets are rational."
It was more fun when we kept the peasants in line with Sky Fairy. Oh, well.
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I was gonna go see "Prom Night" but The Soup ruined it for me:
Tyra Banks is the killer.
I was down there wondering why Trademark Dave had joined forces with Lube your Wanker.
Whenever I hear someone lauding productivity gains, I check my wallet.
Yup. Gains in productivity means money from your wallet is going into the CEO's bank account.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics measures productivity as output per hour. Wikipedia has a long article on productivity that tells you more than probably you, and certainly I, want or need to know.
You hate gay people, we get it.
Homosexual Activist
I don't know what you've got, but I don't want it.
No, I figure that only a rightwing troll would call himself "homosexual activist," any more than I would call myself as a member of the "Democrat Party," so I figure I might as well push while you pull.
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GMT -- you an Homosexual Activist seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot; s/he is kinda new but totally all right.
I am flabbergasted by the Bank of Beautiful Russian Girls in Soft Porn Poses.
"amazing skull shines"
?????????????
It is now well established that Americans are certainly the least productive. We work harder in completely meaningless ways and yet do an inferior job to Germans, Japanese, French and so forth who eschew stupid bullying and
the mere appearance of work to either really get something done or really have fun. Americans no longer take vacations: while some jobs allow dilatory vacation time in theory, there is no money, or there is the explicit expectation that you shouldn't take a vacation out of loyalty to the company (and the threat that it will be held against you), and Americans anyway are becoming soulless assholes who don't know what to do with themselves if they do take a vacation. Meanwhile other industrialized countries who take indulgent vacations and time off and don't need to worry about going to work sick to escape extortionist doctor's bills -- which is all of them -- are more productive anyway.
If you work as hard as Americans and are left as far behind as Americans are you can hardly be called productive.
No, I figure that only a rightwing troll would call himself "homosexual activist,"
You'd figure wrong, then.
The problem is that it comes from working more hours, which are unpaid. The per-hour worked productivity of Americans is actually fairly low.
So... managers are rated on how many unpaid hours they can get out of people And people's time gets wasted in stupid meetings and pointless busy work.
Sat next to a German guy at a job a few years back. He had worked in Munich and London in the same industry. He said the Americans worked far more hours, but got less done overall. He said no one in London was in the office at 9AM. In America, you were a slacker if you weren't at your desk at 8:30. But the German firm got the same size job done with smaller teams and less time.
I'll take V's word for it and lay off homosexual activist. Smelled like troll to me.
Thanks, V.
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Homosexual Activist
Grand Moff Texan is one of the venerated posters in these parts.
One of my favorites as he's a smart individual that calls 'em like he sees 'em.
GMT -- you an Homosexual Activist seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot; s/he is kinda new but totally all right.
V for Virginia, just hunky dor
HA is cool.
No, I figure that only a rightwing troll would call himself "homosexual activist,"
You'd figure wrong, then.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Well, I saw that picture of you and COT, so you probably are part of The Homosexual Agenda anyway.
We're all, like, ironic, 'n shit.
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I was down there wondering why Trademark Dave had joined forces with Lube your Wanker.
DWD
Joined forces?
How so?
Well, I saw that picture of you and COT, so you probably are part of The Homosexual Agenda anyway.
*sigh*
Passing out ain't what it used to be, I guess.
Should have stuck with my work and stayed away today, as I seem to be spoiling for a fight. Back to work for me, then.
Thank, billy, but apparently I haven't been spending enough time around here lately.
Which is a scary fucking thought.
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Americans anyway are becoming soulless assholes who don't know what to do with themselves if they do take a vacation.
Americans love vacations. Socks and shorts and demands for mashed potatoes mixed in with complaints that it took 15 minues to get someone to fix the air conditioner, and rants about how the water made them sick, not the bottle of tequilla they drank the night before.
Good times.
s h e e t s again
Well, I saw that picture of you and COT, so you probably are part of The Homosexual Agenda anyway.
racymind
Whew, girlfriend. You are tough.
[wink]
My apologies, HA.
You're not the only one in a "fuck with me!" mode today.
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Socks and shorts and demands for mashed potatoes mixed in with complaints that it took 15 minues to get someone to fix the air conditioner, and rants about how the water made them sick, not the bottle of tequilla they drank the night before.
What the fuck are you talking about, Butler?
Sat next to a German guy at a job a few years back. He had worked in Munich and London in the same industry. He said the Americans worked far more hours, but got less done overall. He said no one in London was in the office at 9AM. In America, you were a slacker if you weren't at your desk at 8:30. But the German firm got the same size job done with smaller teams and less time.
the m | 04.12.08 - 5:57 pm | #
I've worked with German companies in technology/engineering, and they don't get much done.
Frank Zappa, from "Brown Shoes Don't Make it:":
"Be a Jerk, Go to Work
Get a job, do it right
Life's a ball, TeeVee
Tonite!"
The grassy knoll section of (what's left of) my mind is convinced that one significant aspect of the destroyed dollar & post-9/11 fear is that the usually-able-to-travel middle class won't/can't go to Europe and find out there are actually countries where you are expected to take vacation, and plenty of it, and to generally enjoy stuff beyond a mind-numbing job. I am a Proud DFH!
Joined forces?
How so?
Terry C, Obama 08
Well, when they are both criticizing Obama for having the temerity to criticize the abandonment of the working class people of this country: what would you call it? Honestly, their words were very similar.
I just pointed out to Dave that he had aligned himself with some strange company.
*I know better. I was mostly joshing except that Hillary is not going to be the nominee and her supporters had better find a way to at least respect Barack.
Yeah, right, Americans are the hardest working people in the world. Canadians too. Just hauling our fat, lazy asses around requires the work necessary to support an entire Asian village.
And there are sheets.
I just pointed out to Dave that he had aligned himself with some strange company.
*I know better. I was mostly joshing except that Hillary is not going to be the nominee and her supporters had better find a way to at least respect Barack.
DWD
Choosing not to support Obama does not make one a right wing idiot like Dickyanka.
The Brits I've spoken with think that the Yanks spin their wheels too fucking much, bragging about working hard but only showing that, if that's all you get done in a 60 hour week, YOU SUCK.
Take this with a grain of salt (and white pepper): Brits think all Yanks are dumb.
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I'm talking about big fat red man and his skinny red wife, Terry old chap.
Does it make you bitter, Ter? Does it make ya mean and bitter????
I'm one of those Americans who is lucky enough to get 5 weeks paid vacation/year. And I work in a place where it's okay to use them.
And I do, and I love it, and would enjoy twice as much.
I just thought SOMEONE ought to be able to say something positive about Americans and vacation. 2 weeks at the beach this summer, wish I had 4.
Terry old chap.
annie
Hey, Butler.
Why do you think calling ME a guy is an insult?
Do you hate your own gender as much as you hate women?
Is that your problem, you sick fuck?
second gilded age on the march
Whenever I hear someone lauding productivity gains, I check my wallet.
SteveLG
[strenuously resists the urge to offer to check all off SteveLg's pockets]
[FAIL]
WHy do you hate your penis, Terry?
Becket is gone. the yanks can try to crank on the bullpen now. we will see.
as to lubyanka....I think the last two syllables says it all.
Does it make you bitter, Ter? Does it make ya mean and bitter????
You could give a seminar on that, Allen.
That and being a moron.
He said no one in London was in the office at 9AM. In America, you were a slacker if you weren't at your desk at 8:30.
Depends. In Santa Clara, Seattle, or Nashville you can often get away with showing up between 9 and 10, depending on whether you're tied to east coast time.
What really gets you in trouble here is trying to work efficiently. People really hate it when I uninvite myself to pointless meetings.
WHy do you hate your penis, Terry?
annie
Says the tranny who needs an electron microscope to FIND his?
You're saying you don't hate your penis?
You just like other guy's penises more?
WHy do you hate your penis, Terry?
annie
Because he can't get your smell off of it?
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Well, I saw that picture of you and COT, so you probably are part of The Homosexual Agenda anyway.
racymind
Jeebus I got on a random bus travelling from NYC to the suburbs in the middle of the night last night, and who do I meet?
Some dude on the bus who brought up that same picture.
One of my favorite rants. American productivity is the highest in the world.
Only because we work more hours.
France has higher productivity per hour worked.
But here in th Land of Freedumb you're a commie traitor if you wish for more than two weeks' vacation, not like those poor oppressed Euros with their five to eight weeks off.
If we truly had 'free markets', it would behoove an enlightened employer to allow people to trade off extra vacation time at, say, a 2.5% pay cut per additional week, but that would be career suicide and would undercut Coporate Ideology and so must never be allowed to happen.
The grassy knoll section of (what's left of) my mind is convinced that one significant aspect of the destroyed dollar & post-9/11 fear is that the usually-able-to-travel middle class won't/can't go to Europe
And the fascism-lite militarist-authoritarian TSA and Immigration goons at American airports are valiantly fighting the War on Tourism to keep foreigners from friendly countries visiting the US and spreading their subversive islamunocommie ideas about vacations and health care and questioning the wisdom of Kim Jong Cheney's Endless War Against Everything.
It's all about quantity and never about quality in this country. We're to the point where our productivity per hour worked is lower than in France, because what happens is we're chained to our desks for god knows how many hours a week, and it impacts on morale and leads to lots of mindless diversions like web surfing.
As opposed to the French, who arrive, fresh faced, at 10 in the morning, stay until seven in the evening (allowing an hour and a half for lunch), and take six weeks vacation a year. And during that work day, they work like beavers. Because, wouldn't ya know it, they don't get burned out like we do.
Vacations are for losers.
Get back to work!
Bad thing for most
good thing for corporate overlords
It's only a bad thing if you're a lazy fuck.
Class warfare! Class warfare! I call!
Small companies are either really bad or really good. Right now I'm working for an awesome small company (under 100 employees) where everyone gets at least 3 weeks vacation, and a 6 week sabatical after 5 years.
Next year I get 9 weeks off and I'm not going to know what to do with myself.
I want to see that on a Starbucks cup, & I went and told them so.
Work macht frei.
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