NASHUA, N.H.--Bombastic Fox News host Bill O'Reilly got into a confrontation with an Obama aide after O'Reilly started screaming at him as he tried to get Barack Obama's attention following a rally here.
The incident was triggered when O'Reilly--with a Fox News crew shooting--was screaming at Obama National Trip Director Marvin Nicholson "Move" so he could get Obama's attention, according to several eyewitnesses. "O'Reilly was yelling at him, yelling at his face," a photographer shooting the scene said.
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The Kenosha Kid |
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01.05.08 - 2:09 pm | #
At this point I'd love to see O'Reilly get a serious beat down. Asshole's venting way too much carbon dioxide for our own good.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.05.08 - 2:13 pm | #
O'Reilly was one shove away from being taken down by the Secret Service: oh, for that one more shove.
WalterNeff, SEAHAWKS! |
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01.05.08 - 2:14 pm | #
Secret Service agents came after O'Reilly pushed Nicholson and the agents flanked O'Reily.
That's going to require an incident report with interviews and video tape I'll bet.
Bond, James Bond |
01.05.08 - 2:14 pm | #
I am sure BillO is loving this. He loves to build up a some kind of personal slight before he starts going after someone- this is just the ticket to get him started on Obama. What a dickweed.
Galactic Dustbin |
01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
O'Reilly grabbed Nicholson's arm, said "move" and shoved him, another eyewitness said. Nicholson, who is 6'8 said O"Reilly called him "low class."
Afterwards Bill received a cell phone call from a Mr. Pot asking if he could introduction O'Reilly to a Mr. Kettle.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
Tase him in Gitmo.
NexttoLastPope |
01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
.I believe Edwards has pretty explicitly dropped the "combat troops" hedge, hasn't he?
SteveLG
I'll take your word for it. I would assert that regardless of what they say now, all three contenders, if and when they take office, will embark us on a fairly tortuous road to complete withdrawal, which will likely not have reached its end before their first terms expire. I don't think anybody besides a general could really resist the nonstop lobbying from the joint chiefs to proceed a certain way.
blerb |
01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
Other than the war, Hillary has a solid liberal background
Other than the WAR? Say wha?
cahuenga | 01.05.08 - 2:08 pm | #
Keith will have a gas with this one on Monday. Mark my words.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
I guess O'Lielly was trying to beg Obama to come on his stupid show. What, did BillO run out of flunky producers?
Blackacre |
01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
And what's with O-Lielly consistently calling people taller and stronger than himself "low class?"
For bonus points, he could have called him "pompous, low class".
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QuentinCompson .5 HartDelegate |
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01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
ok, that annoys me.
who thinks the SS would allow a black person, or even regular (nonmedia) white person to get away with that unjailed? not me.
really, the more i think about the more i'm wondering about what kind of SS protection he's getting. you can't sneeze around bush and not get arrested. what is going on here?
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
Here's a lovely pic of bug-eyed Illeana Douglas for Steve Simels.
The Kenosha Kid |
I don't know. She looks like some cartoon fish character whose name I can't recall.
Bond, James Bond |
01.05.08 - 2:16 pm | #
Other than the WAR? Say wha?
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
She looks like some cartoon fish character whose name I can't recall.
Olyve Oyl?
And seriously, I'm off to the fabric store. The beans are setting, the bread is being kneaded, it's all good.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
01.05.08 - 2:17 pm | #
I just send John Edwards another hundred bucks to celebrate. Anyone care to join me?
lipreader, Edwards supporter. |
01.05.08 - 2:17 pm | #
Bill was gonna ask Obama if he knew where he could get some M'fing ice tea.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.05.08 - 2:17 pm | #
For ql, in case she missed it downstairs.
So Steve, on what issue?
qlª Back Home | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 2:06 pm | #
It's not a question of individual issues or even her record up till now.
My fear -- and I think it is eminently reasonable -- is that if there's a solid Democratic congressional sweep along with her presidential win she will immediately go into full triangulation mode and work against anything meangingfully liberal the congress tries to enact, to the thundering applause of the MSM for curbing "the excesses of the left wing."
steve simels |
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01.05.08 - 2:17 pm | #
Here's a lovely pic of bug-eyed Illeana Douglas for Steve Simels.
I would engage in a mutually satisfactory horizontal interlude with her.
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal |
01.05.08 - 2:17 pm | #
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
To tell you the truth, I never got to see the ending.
Mary Todd Lincoln |
01.05.08 - 2:17 pm | #
"She looks like some cartoon fish character whose name I can't recall."
He's nuts. He really is insane. I alluded earlier to the Dodd interview where he was screaming and bug-eyed about I forget what now-forgotten outrage. Dodd remained calm and very polite and just softly chuckled when Bill-O starterd screaming.
That's how you handle him.
Jim, Collieresque |
01.05.08 - 2:18 pm | #
LOL...the Soup (on E, yeah i KNOW) had O'reilly's really creepy interview with that pageant candidate who got in trouble because her boyfriend was biting her boob in a photo...OMFG the shit...he kept going as if he were jerking off while interviewing her....that was HI-larious.
mogwai, cloud 9 dweller |
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01.05.08 - 2:18 pm | #
what is going on here?
chicago dyke, daring to belitt | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 2:15 pm | #
What do you think?
JFK
RFK
MLK
Fred Hampton
Medgar Evers
Malcom X
Abbie Hoffman (maybe)
Alan Berg
...
rootless-e |
01.05.08 - 2:18 pm | #
Secret Service agents came after O'Reilly pushed Nicholson and the agents flanked O'Reily.
Flanked him? Flanked? That's it? That's lame. I expect more from my tax dollars, damn it. Tase him, put him in a choke hold, restrain his ass, something.
TheOtherWA |
01.05.08 - 2:19 pm | #
I'm off to the fabric store. The beans are setting, the bread is being kneaded, it's all good.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Boy, talk about the 'good life'.
Bond, James Bond |
01.05.08 - 2:19 pm | #
Hello moonbats
oh my O'Reilly is a tosser
Moonbootica, Employed |
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01.05.08 - 2:19 pm | #
I sent O'Reilly my name to help him compile his list, back then. Never heard from him, hee.
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01.05.08 - 2:19 pm | #
As I noted below, I'm not happy with Hillary's stand on the war, but it is basically no different than the other leading contenders until just recently when Edwards started talking about a complete withdrawal.
qlª Back Home |
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01.05.08 - 2:19 pm | #
Here's a lovely pic of bug-eyed Illeana Douglas for Steve Simels.
The Kenosha Kid |
I don't know. She looks like some cartoon fish character whose name I can't recall.
Bond
Simels and I are gonna kick your asses, you know.
jac |
01.05.08 - 2:20 pm | #
work against anything meangingfully liberal the congress tries to enact, to the thundering applause of the MSM for curbing "the excesses of the left wing."
steve simels
i expect that of any of them, to be honest. reelection becomes the most important priority of anyone in the WH starting day one on the job. our media wouldn't allow any progressive policy in the first four years, and would crucify a dem who tried it a la carter.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 2:20 pm | #
Illeana Douglas and dory, seperated at birth? you decide...:
Me, or Bond?
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.05.08 - 2:20 pm | #
O'Biley was just trying to show the really nasty boys how it's done. And hoping they'll take out the 6'8" guys and then get the job done. He is worse than shit, he's septic tank.
tweedles |
01.05.08 - 2:21 pm | #
Here's a lovely pic of bug-eyed Illeana Douglas for Steve Simels.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 2:13 pm | #
I prefer to think of it as a shayneh punim.
Incidentally, I have impure thoughts about Glenne Headley, as well.
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01.05.08 - 2:21 pm | #
Well, Simels, I's say that you have ser the bar for Hillary so very low that you are virtually guaranteed to be pleasantly surprised if and when she actually takes office. Perhaps not a bad strategy. I'll have to try that with Obama.
blerb |
01.05.08 - 2:21 pm | #
If there's ever a news story where Bill Orly doesn't make an ass of himself, it's pretty much guaranteed that it'll win the Pulitzer.
Kezaro |
01.05.08 - 2:21 pm | #
My fear -- and I think it is eminently reasonable -- is that if there's a solid Democratic congressional sweep along with her presidential win she will immediately go into full triangulation mode and work against anything meangingfully liberal the congress tries to enact, to the thundering applause of the MSM for curbing "the excesses of the left wing."
steve simels
I disagree in as much as I think HRC (or Obama) would be drawn into compromise and incrementalism, then get painted as "failed presidents" by the Tweeties and the Kleins, not so much in an active effort to block progressive initiatives, but the effect would be the same.
One caveat: HRC hates the media, and with good reason. She may try to play them in the wrong way, but I don't think she gives a fuck about what Broder really thinks about her, even if she may (unfortunately) care what he says about her.
Jim, Collieresque |
01.05.08 - 2:21 pm | #
Secret Service agents came after O'Reilly pushed Nicholson and the agents flanked O'Reily.
Flanked him? Flanked? That's it? That's lame. I expect more from my tax dollars, damn it. Tase him, put him in a choke hold, restrain his ass, something.
TheOtherWA
When I listen to people talk about Obama, I hear nothing but vague ideals mentioned such as "change, new ideas, something different than the mainstream, fresh voices," yada yada yada. But one thing I don't hear a lot about are his views on policy. What is his stand on Israel? How is he going to fund Universal Health care for everyone without cutting back on the quality of care and/or sacrificing research & development? If he cuts out taxes for 7 million seniors, how does this square with his belief that "everyone should pay their fair share," or does this only apply to corporations? How do you negotiate with terrorists? I have a lot more questions that I hope will be answered prior to the election, because we need more in a President than a breath of fresh air.
Hill J |
01.05.08 - 2:22 pm | #
Just circle the wagons and start shootin'!
Bond, James Bond |
01.05.08 - 2:22 pm | #
Incidentally, I have impure thoughts about Glenne Headley, as well.
Mon Dieu, I begin to worry -- Simels and I share fantasies....
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal |
01.05.08 - 2:23 pm | #
As I noted below, I'm not happy with Hillary's stand on the war, but it is basically no different than the other leading contenders until just recently when Edwards started talking about a complete withdrawal.
qlª Back Home | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 2:19 pm | #
That's not right. All three are inexcusably evasive, but Obama (16months) and Edwards (12 months) have committed to time lines for getting all combat troops out of Iraq. Hillary has not. She has also praised the Sunni-Sheik efforts in Anbar as a tactic the US should have done earlier and one that is on the right track.
And Hillary voted for the AUMF and insists she was right.
rootless-e |
01.05.08 - 2:23 pm | #
It's true that it's pretty hard to figure out exactly what Obama intends to do. Sooner or later he will have to stop trying to be all things to all people.
blerb |
01.05.08 - 2:23 pm | #
Mon Dieu, I begin to worry -- Simels and I share fantasies....
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal |
ahem...Get a room you two and please no 'kiss and tell' afterwards.
Bond, James Bond |
01.05.08 - 2:24 pm | #
What I want to know is why Ann Coulter has an adam's apple and bill O'liely doesn't!
old lady from Wyoming |
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01.05.08 - 2:24 pm | #
If there's ever a news story where Bill Orly doesn't make an ass of himself, it's pretty much guaranteed that it'll win the Pulitzer.
Or the Polk.
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.05.08 - 2:24 pm | #
If there's ever a news story where Bill Orly doesn't make an ass of himself, it's pretty much guaranteed that it'll win the Pulitzer.
billo's getting more violent and conspiratorial since Andrea Mackris lawsuit. He can't sexually harass employees anymore so he lashes out like a club carrying caveman
jr |
01.05.08 - 2:25 pm | #
Simels is right about Hillary. And Obama wouldn't be much different. You can tell who would be a real change by how much the media ignores him.
Edwards got the 2nd most votes of ANY candidate on either side in Iowa and he barely gets a mention unless it is to say he's finished. It's fucking obvious what is up, and we have to fight it.
Consider it the final battle for the supremacy of the DFH over the MSH.
Fight for Edwards and he'll fight for us.
And as for the money bullshit...the Democratic nominee is going to have much more money than the GOPer is, no matter what the pairing. And Edwards did better than expected while being outspent in Iowa 5 or 6 to 1.
Don't count him out, it's what "THEY" want!
lipreader, Edwards supporter. |
01.05.08 - 2:25 pm | #
When push comes to shove, they're all gonna drag their asses, Rootless. What they say now maenas very litle, except that they're all committed to the idea of withdrawal and the Repukes are not.
blerb |
01.05.08 - 2:26 pm | #
Bill lost his in a large cock swallowing accident when he was young.
tbhull |
01.05.08 - 2:26 pm | #
What I want to know is why Ann Coulter has an adam's apple and bill O'liely doesn't!
Billo' doesn't have a larynx. He has a sphincter.
leibniz, monadΩ |
01.05.08 - 2:26 pm | #
And Hillary voted for the AUMF and insists she was right.
rootless-e
i can understand why bill was forced into some triangulating that i have a hard time excusing. but hillary should be an out and proud liberal. the press had the hate-on for bill, but they despise hillary and haven't given her a break, ever. so why does she still try to please them? or does she really believe that moderates will love her if she just stays mushy mouthed? moderate women, perhaps, but the rest of that well is poisoned.
it's just never made sense to me, and in these times, if she had chosen to be a polarizing firebreather instead of a polarizing ho-hum...i'm sorry but i think she'd be a lot more popular today.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 2:27 pm | #
If there's ever a news story where Bill Orly doesn't make an ass of himself, it's pretty much guaranteed that it'll win the Pulitzer
More likely a Hugo.
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal |
01.05.08 - 2:27 pm | #
Adams apple that us.
tbhull |
01.05.08 - 2:27 pm | #
I guess I am so with Simels on hrc that I should quit lurking and just say it. She's motivated by things I don't understand to do things I don't understand, I'll admit.
brain blob |
01.05.08 - 2:27 pm | #
Well, Simels, I's say that you have ser the bar for Hillary so very low that you are virtually guaranteed to be pleasantly surprised if and when she actually takes office. Perhaps not a bad strategy. I'll have to try that with Obama.
blerb | 01.05.08 - 2:21 pm | #
I don't have the slightest expectation she'll pleasantly surprise me. And I think that the people around here who are emotionally invested in her candidacy are gonna have their hearts broken if she wins.
And I most definitely will not enjoy saying I told you so when it happens. I may say it, but believe me I won't enjoy it.
steve simels |
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01.05.08 - 2:27 pm | #
More likely a Hugo.
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal
Hugo's voted by fans: does Bill have any?
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.05.08 - 2:27 pm | #
That's my objection to Obama as well -- he's Scarlett's vision of Ashley. We make up a pretty suit of clothes -- the perfect liberal president of our dreams -- and we put it on him and fall in love with the suit of clothes we made up. We don't even know what he's really all about. All we know is he's different and he talks beautifully, so he must be everything we've ever dreamed of.
Secret Service agents came after O'Reilly pushed Nicholson and the agents flanked O'Reily.
Flanked him? Flanked? That's it? That's lame. I expect more from my tax dollars, damn it. Tase him, put him in a choke hold, restrain his ass, something.
TheOtherWA
The SS shoulda wished Bill O "Season's Greetings"... an watched im have a stroke.
CapMidnight |
01.05.08 - 2:28 pm | #
it's just never made sense to me, and in these times, if she had chosen to be a polarizing firebreather instead of a polarizing ho-hum...i'm sorry but i think she'd be a lot more popular today.
it's just never made sense to me, and in these times, if she had chosen to be a polarizing firebreather instead of a polarizing ho-hum...i'm sorry but i think she'd be a lot more popular today.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 2:27 pm | #
I think is is political miscalculation and tin-ear - and that is why I think she would be easiest for the thugs to beat. She hired a Bob Shrum to run her campaign.
rootless-e |
01.05.08 - 2:29 pm | #
One final note on trial lawyers as progressive actors. Professional malpractice is dependent upon an objective standard of care. That standard of care was at one time viewed as limited to the local area. So that big city hospitals might deliver a higher standard of care than rural doctors. Trial lawyers have worked long and hard to apply a universal standard of care. So that people, no matter their circumstances, are assured of receiving the same standard of care everywhere. That is the epitome of the progressive movement.
Snow, Liberal |
01.05.08 - 2:29 pm | #
Don't count him out, it's what "THEY" want!
lipreader,
/wipes tears, sniffs/
beautiful, brother/sister, just beautiful. thank you.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 2:29 pm | #
On Faux, Frank Luntz loves Obama.
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QuentinCompson .5 HartDelegate |
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01.05.08 - 2:29 pm | #
.And I think that the people around here who are emotionally invested in her candidacy are gonna have their hearts broken if she wins.
I'm not emotionally invested in her candidacy at all. I have the same lukewarm enthusiasm for all three leading candidates. I just get bugged when people try to make her, or any of them for that matter, into the Devil Incarnate.
blerb |
01.05.08 - 2:29 pm | #
Here's a lovely pic of bug-eyed Illeana Douglas for Steve Simels.
The Kenosha Kid
For some reason, I always used to get her confused with Sharon Lawrence, whom I also dig. Perhaps it was the eyes.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
01.05.08 - 2:29 pm | #
if she had chosen to be a polarizing firebreather instead of a polarizing ho-hum...i'm sorry but i think she'd be a lot more popular today.
chicago dyke
Yep.
And I suspect that's where her heart is - but decades of abuse have left her in a place where she can't get to the fire.
jac |
01.05.08 - 2:30 pm | #
Say what you will about Obama, but I laughed my ass off during his thank you speech Thursday when he said "Give it up for Michelle Obama."
That was a watershed moment if there ever was one...
steve simels |
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01.05.08 - 2:30 pm | #
I've got to go.
But I suggest to those with short memorys, look at this. Hillary wasn't "fooled", she was leading the charge.
cahuenga |
01.05.08 - 2:30 pm | #
AP: "President Bush said Friday that while there is some uncertainty about slowing economic growth, the nation's 'financial markets are strong and solid.'"
Given that Bush lies about everything, I suspect this means that, as far as the economy is concerned, there must be some new data that confirms the shit is about to hit the fan.
JGabriel |
01.05.08 - 2:30 pm | #
Thanks chi-dy, it's brother, but don't hold that against me.
lipreader, Edwards supporter. |
01.05.08 - 2:31 pm | #
That standard of care was at one time viewed as limited to the local area. So that big city hospitals might deliver a higher standard of care than rural doctors. Trial lawyers have worked long and hard to apply a universal standard of care. So that people, no matter their circumstances, are assured of receiving the same standard of care everywhere. That is the epitome of the progressive movement.
Snow, Liberal | 01.05.08 - 2:29 pm | #
That's really not how it works in practice. The worst doctors continue butchering people with no consequence and the standard of care becomes defensive and often idiotic.
rootless-e |
01.05.08 - 2:31 pm | #
Imagine the advantage a pissed off Edwards has over slick Hillary and slicker Obama in the south.
Edwards is the most electable, dammit. And he just happens to be the most progressive of the three. We can't lose this opportunity for real change. We just can't.
lipreader, Edwards supporter. |
01.05.08 - 2:32 pm | #
s my objection to Obama as well -- he's Scarlett's vision of Ashley.
consider yourself stolen. do you mind if i post that? if you know the book well, it's even more apt than it may seem.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 2:32 pm | #
With their large eyes and weak chins, I think that Illeana Douglas and Sharon Lawrence both look like anime characters.
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.05.08 - 2:32 pm | #
I will say this: Assuming that the next Congress will be AT LEAST as Democratic as the current one, Hillary will not be anywhere near as obstructionist as W on domestic things such as S-CHIP, reforming Medicare D (to at least allow cost negitiations), and funding additional local police.
While Iraq will remain a clusterfuck for at least a generation, the domestic issues are becoming more critical as we tick towards November.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office |
01.05.08 - 2:32 pm | #
Here's a lovely pic of bug-eyed Illeana Douglas for Steve Simels.
The Kenosha Kid
For some reason, I always used to get her confused with Sharon Lawrence, whom I also dig. Perhaps it was the eyes.
Bobby,
I know I've been here too long at the opium den when I know the names 'Kenosha Kid' and 'steve simels' and yet have absolutely no friggin' idea who Illeana Douglas and Sharon Lawrence are.
See you cats later.
Bond, James Bond |
01.05.08 - 2:33 pm | #
Women and gay men are 'worst drivers'
By Sarah Radford and agencies
Last Updated: 2:25am GMT 04/01/2008
Women and gay men are likely to be the worst drivers, a new study has shown. Research has revealed that both perform poorly in tasks involving navigation and spatial awareness when compared to heterosexual men.
Psychologists at Queen Mary, University of London, who conducted the study, believe the findings mean driving in a strange environment would be more difficult for gay men and women than for straight male motorists. Both tend to rely on local landmarks to get around, and are also slower to take in spatial information.
The computer-based tests were carried out on 140 volunteers, and demonstrated that gay men, straight women and lesbians navigated in a similar way, sharing the same weaknesses.
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01.05.08 - 2:33 pm | #
Seahawks 34-7 record at home for their last 41 games.
WalterNeff, SEAHAWKS! |
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01.05.08 - 2:33 pm | #
That's really not how it works in practice. The worst doctors continue butchering people with no consequence and the standard of care becomes defensive and often idiotic.
Both of which are on the medical profession, not the legal profession.
Snow, Liberal |
01.05.08 - 2:33 pm | #
.Edwards is the most electable, dammit. And he just happens to be the most progressive of the three. We can't lose this opportunity for real change. We just can't.
lipreader, Edwards supporter
I'll be voting for him, and I'm thinking seriously about sending him some money this week. But I still think he'll lose.
blerb |
01.05.08 - 2:33 pm | #
That standard of care was at one time viewed as limited to the local area. So that big city hospitals might deliver a higher standard of care than rural doctors. Trial lawyers have worked long and hard to apply a universal standard of care. So that people, no matter their circumstances, are assured of receiving the same standard of care everywhere. That is the epitome of the progressive movement.
Snow, Liberal
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Sorry, but I live on the other side of that equation...where having to pay riculous amounts of malpractice insurance has driven up the cost of doing medicine to obscene levels, and the stress of idiotic litigation has driven some of the best people out of practicing medicine.
Addison |
01.05.08 - 2:35 pm | #
I'll be voting for him, and I'm thinking seriously about sending him some money this week. But I still think he'll lose.
blerb
.Edwards is the most electable, dammit. And he just happens to be the most progressive of the three. We can't lose this opportunity for real change. We just can't.
lipreader, Edwards supporter
Isn't that the conundrum? I think Edwards shtick will have little appeal, I think his delivery is weak, and his debate performance is chintzy. But he is white and male. The fact is, none of us know who would make the strongest candidate.
rootless-e |
01.05.08 - 2:35 pm | #
Seahawks 34-7 record at home for their last 41 games.
WalterNeff, SEAHAWKS!
ToddMania™, Walter. It's coming to your neighborhood.
SteveLG |
01.05.08 - 2:35 pm | #
Hillary carpetbagged her way into the Senate. She has walked a tightrope ever since, trying to please her constituents and plotting a national strategy. I'm afraid my crystal ball doesn't reveal if this makes her more or less liberal as the Dem nominee. I suspect she'll be very, very cautious.Meeting with Murdoch signaled as much.
That standard of care was at one time viewed as limited to the local area. So that big city hospitals might deliver a higher standard of care than rural doctors.
I have some friends who live mostly off the grid. When they need antibiotics, they go to a veterinarian friend.
leibniz, monadΩ |
01.05.08 - 2:36 pm | #
.But he is white and male. The fact is, none of us know who would make the strongest candidate.
rootless-e
A lot depends on who they are up against in the general election.
blerb |
01.05.08 - 2:36 pm | #
"but I laughed my ass off during his thank you speech Thursday when he said "Give it up for Michelle Obama.""
i was too busy checking out the junk in the trunk. yowza!
jdw |
01.05.08 - 2:37 pm | #
Women and gay men are likely to be the worst drivers, a new study has shown. Research has revealed that both perform poorly in tasks involving navigation and spatial awareness when compared to heterosexual men.
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The part about gay men surprises me..
ON the other hand, remembering the litany of things that have leaped out in front of my wife (hedges, trees, garbage cans, parked cars) I can firmly attest to the other part... :D
Addison |
01.05.08 - 2:37 pm | #
Bond, James Bond | 01.05.08 - 2:33 pm | #
snort.
roadmaster, i think some of us (including me) often forget that point. a dem pres would say yes to a lot of things that are just impossible under bush. not everything people like me want, but some good things. it's just been so long, and so much evil under the bridge and so much heartbreak...i think people have forgotten that good gummint, or even just-not-totally evil gov't, is possible.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
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01.05.08 - 2:37 pm | #
NASHUA, N.H. -- After beating John Edwards in Iowa on Thursday, Barack Obama has decided to join him -- repeatedly poaching his opponent's themes, language, and even jokes.
"We shouldn't just be respecting wealth in this country -- we should be respecting work," Obama told an overflow crowd in a high-school gym today.
Edwards's 2004 presidential campaign was centered around the idea that the Bush administration had launched a "war on work" through tax cuts that offer incentives for investment over labor. "Hard work should be valued in this country, so we're going to reward work, not just wealth," Edwards said in accepting his party’s vice-presidential nomination at the Democratic’ convention in Boston. In this campaign, he has sharpened his populist rhetoric, railing against greedy corporate CEOs who are waging war on working people and the middle class.
I happened to hear the speech, myself, this moring - and Obama is definitely picking up on Edwards talking points! I knew that he'd move to the left, and I'm happy to see him do it, too.
portia |
01.05.08 - 2:39 pm | #
Did O'Reilly have a vibrator shoved up his ass at the time of the incident?
The other WA: "Flanked him? Flanked? That's it? That's lame. I expect more from my tax dollars, damn it. Tase him, put him in a choke hold, restrain his ass, something."
Sorry, I can't get behind torture of anyone, even O'Reilly, and tasering *is* torture.
That said, I'd really like to see the falafel bastard go through the whole process, charged, perp-walked, and fined at the end. Maybe a little community service and a public apology too.
With a little luck, maybe the public apology would cause his head to explode, ala Cronenberg's 'Scanners'.
JGabriel |
01.05.08 - 2:39 pm | #
Women and gay men are likely to be the worst drivers, a new study has shown. Research has revealed that both perform poorly in tasks involving navigation and spatial awareness when compared to heterosexual men.
Heterosexual men, on the other hand, are genetically unable to open a map or ask for directions.
Supreme Commander Thor |
01.05.08 - 2:39 pm | #
Obama's Social Security is in trouble bullshit did the same for him.
lipreader, Edwards supporter. | 01.05.08 - 2:38 pm | #
I think he was right to advocate moving or eliminating the cap. The cap makes FICA regressive.
rootless-e |
01.05.08 - 2:40 pm | #
Steve Simels' dream girls
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 2:36 pm | #
You are a very cruel man.
I hope you and Natalie Portman are very happy together.
steve simels |
Homepage |
01.05.08 - 2:40 pm | #
Sorry, but I live on the other side of that equation...where having to pay riculous amounts of malpractice insurance has driven up the cost of doing medicine to obscene levels, and the stress of idiotic litigation has driven some of the best people out of practicing medicine.
Addison |
can i bring you all together and say the problem is the concept that "insurance" and medicine go together?
take the insurance companies out of the equation, toss in some better and more effective regulation, and fund places so that health care providers aren't overworked and underpaid, and poof! lots of bad things stop happening.
we can do all of this for less than half the DoD budget, and have already spent several years worth of universal health care on the sands of iraq.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
Homepage |
01.05.08 - 2:41 pm | #
Typical petulant Republican jackass with a bad case of the entitlement blues.
Thinks the whole world should pay attention to him, on demand. And it kills him that he is quickly becoming Mr. Irrelevant.
Anti-Klein |
01.05.08 - 2:41 pm | #
I suspect she'll be very, very cautious.Meeting with Murdoch signaled as much.
I think that said more about Murdoch than Clinton.
Not to beat a dead horse (even on a dead thread), but the Clintons' work for Lieberman is the crystalization of all my doubts and fears about HRC as a president. The fact that he is now campaigning for Endless War McCain is a consequence so perfect and so illustrative that you wouldn't believe it if it were in a book.
Jim, Collieresque |
01.05.08 - 2:42 pm | #
CD, you can steal it -- and you don't even have to footnote me. (I'm one of those geeky girls who darn near memorized the book in junior high.)
strawhat |
01.05.08 - 2:43 pm | #
If Obama is victorious in Nov. he will either joyfully surprise us by being more progressive than we'd ever hoped or depress us by being more conservative than we'd ever feared.
Bobby, Who ♥ Kucinich |
01.05.08 - 2:44 pm | #
Sorry, but I live on the other side of that equation...where having to pay riculous amounts of malpractice insurance has driven up the cost of doing medicine to obscene levels, and the stress of idiotic litigation has driven some of the best people out of practicing medicine.
Addison |
Isn't part of the problem that Doctors police their own? How many years does it take to get a ham fisted alcoholic surgeon's licence revoked? Also I believe a system of arbitration would serve us all better. It seems a crime to me that an injured party needs to hand over 1/3 of a settlement to a lawer.
shemp |
01.05.08 - 2:48 pm | #
I SO wanna see someone give Bill O a mouth full of bloody Chiclets.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
01.05.08 - 2:49 pm | #
For anyone who still thinks that Obama would be effective if he is elected, just go to his website. It's filled with platitudes and ridiculously lame things like raising CAFE standards something like 4% and an overall energy plan that is doomed to fail simply because no power is ever taken away from oil companies. That's what his whole platform is like. There's no 'there' there.
little tragedy |
01.05.08 - 2:49 pm | #
NobleJoanie: 'Hillary carpetbagged her way into the Senate.'
Perhaps you should leave that charge up to the New Yorkers who elected her. As one of those New Yorkers, I've been pretty happy with Clinton's overall Senate performance.
(Yeah, there have been a few votes that really pissed me off, like her support of the AUMF, but she's mostly been a pretty good Senator. And, no, I'm not a Clinton shill - right now I'm leaning towards Edwards, but giving Obama a second look.)
JGabriel |
01.05.08 - 2:50 pm | #
Bill also got busted earlier asking someone else to ask Hillary a question at her townhall thing. admittedly, not the passion of the Obama scuffle, but it's just fun to watch Bill O' Having A Very Bad Morning.
both perform poorly in tasks involving navigation and spatial awareness when compared to heterosexual menwho are willing to ask for directions to their destination
For anyone who still thinks that Obama would be effective if he is elected, just go to his website. It's filled with platitudes and ridiculously lame things like raising CAFE standards something like 4% and an overall energy plan that is doomed to fail simply because no power is ever taken away from oil companies. That's what his whole platform is like. There's no 'there' there.
little tragedy | 01.05.08 - 2:49 pm | #
Obama has an actual legislative record in Illinois that is perfectly respectable and pretty impressive. His foreign policy advisors include Samantha Powers who is actually smart and principled while Hillary's contains Michael O'Hanlon.
Twenty point plans don't do much for me anymore.
rootless-e |
01.05.08 - 3:04 pm | #
JGabriel--I chose the carpetbag descriptor less as an attack on her personally and more as an explanation for why she proceeded as she did in the Senate, the tightrope she walked.
She's not the first or the last to do it, but Bush and Romney are two of that group I wouldn't want to be part of, outsiders taking plum positions in a state.
noblejoanie |
01.05.08 - 3:09 pm | #
If Obama is victorious in Nov. he will either joyfully surprise us by being more progressive than we'd ever hoped or depress us by being more conservative than we'd ever feared.
Of all the false dichotomies I've heard, this is by far the most ridiculous.
hlah |
01.05.08 - 3:11 pm | #
One of these days someone is going to knock O'Really on his ass..that, or shove his teeth down his throat. What an ass.
As a former advance person, you never mess with anyone in the candidate's entourage because the
Secret Service are all mixed into the crowd and their job is to PROTECT the candidate..especially from clowns like O'Really. His tough guy, tough talking schtick won't get him very far.
I'm just sorry that those guys didn't haul off and deck him. Believe me, that day is coming.
sconset |
Homepage |
01.05.08 - 3:31 pm | #
where having to pay riculous amounts of malpractice insurance has driven up the cost of doing medicine to obscene levels, and the stress of idiotic litigation has driven some of the best people out of practicing medicine.
yada yada yada. That neither is a real result of the legal profession always seems to get left out.
Snow, Liberal |
01.05.08 - 3:53 pm | #