I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
frist
second
third
home run!
hoo-rah
Randolph is STROKIN!
Can I comment on this thread. The comment box didn't even appear for me downstairs.
boy o boy two near zeros in one day. Impeach em all.
don't tell mom!
a blancmange eh
but...but...democrats can't do this without losing elections!!!
hoo-rah
General Zod | 06.30.07 - 3:29 pm | #
Well, I'm in good company.
I'm telling mom!
Way to go, wanker! Your state now leads the nation one step closer to armageddon.
/Xian fundie
Sallyh: Jeffraham, so Sahib'll be seeing you later?
Dunno... I may not drink beer. I may just drink coffee and finish up that long overdue project for another Eschatonian, tonight.
Or, I may drink beer, do laundry, change the oils in the scoot and finish it, tomorrow.
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Now if just every freaking state would do it.
Wicked cool ! a YUP !
alien, from up above: boy o boy two near zeros in one day. Impeach em all.
I saw your Kymco commercial!
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Moon,
Lovely pictures. Congratulations on graduation, officially, Lovely accomplishment. Now, go show the world what you got, young lady.
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 3:37 pm | #
I like that fur on George.
Two ultra-shitty devices yesterday, one alleged attempted suicide attack today by - if the account is half-true - a bunch of numbskulls. If only there had been legions of tanks trundling around Glasgow airport's runways and concourses, they could have fired shells repeatedly at the vehicle as it hurtled toward the airport's doors. That would have minimised the danger to travellers, no question. At the risk of further alienating my decent, hardworking, family-supporting, honest, tax-paying, law-abiding readers, may I state once again how unimpressive the luxuriant media panic-fest is. I don't want to diminish it, but - well actually, I do. The current batch of British jihadis, if this is what they are, are failing to match the competition. They are the underachievers of global terrorism. When it comes to tearing up cities they simply lack the competence that anti-terrorist-terrorists bring to the task.
http://leninology.blogspot.com/2...rong-
stuff.html
There should be a law that parents should be notified every time their grownup children troll on the intertubes.
I got nothing.
I would only hope that if my daughter got pregnant, and wanted an abortion she would have the non fear of coming to us her parents.
Moon,
Lovely pictures. Congratulations on graduation, officially, Lovely accomplishment. Now, go show the world what you got, young lady.
DWD - Growin My Own | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 3:39 pm | #
I plan too and thanks
I would only hope that if my daughter got pregnant, and wanted an abortion she would have the non fear of coming to us her parents.
I would only hope all parents would be as understanding and supportive as I assume you would be.
Smalfish, most young women do go to their parents. But the ones that don't, can't.
Therein lies the necessity of the law.
Now if just every freaking state would do it.
Doesn't seem likely.
Moonbootica, Graduate:
Those are some amazing kitty pictures!
OMG, a state run by people with logic and common sense. They must be stopped!
/wingnut troll
QL,
Apparently I am cleared to go back to work now. I have to discuss this with Michigan Education Association. Between the back and this recent excitement: teaching is more of a burden than a joy, but I guess we shall see.
It would be nice to be Moon's age again. I was once young and full of piss and vinegar too. (And I did show them too, Moon. But it is your turn now.)
Moonbo, good pics!
OMG, a state run by people with logic and common sense. They must be stopped!
/wingnut troll
TheOtherWA | 06.30.07 - 3:42 pm | #
Live free or diet.
Steve,
Was cruising in the grocery store the other day and I heard the SECOND hit by ? and the Mysterions. Can't remember it now but it was the first time I had heard since late sixties. Amazing, nothing ever goes away, does it?
OMG, a state run by people with logic and common sense. They must be stopped!
States have too much power! There needs to be a federal constitutional amendment!!!!
Moonbootica, nice pics. Digital cameras are the coolest. Congratulations on graduating too!
Was cruising in the grocery store the other day and I heard the SECOND hit by ? and the Mysterions. Can't remember it now but it was the first time I had heard since late sixties. Amazing, nothing ever goes away, does it?
DWD - Growin My Own | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 3:43 pm | #
I know there was one, and I'm sure I've heard it, but for the life of me I couldn't tell you the title without looking it up.
I'm not sure whether that just proves its really obscure or whether I'm getting senile.
thanks
DWD - Growin My Own | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 3:43 pm | #
Awesome song - 96 Beers
Moonboo -- Yay! Nice cam! One of these days... next year, maybe, I'll do the same. I have debts outstanding to clear, first, but am glad to have that transportation think covered, at last.
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Police are seeking a Mr. amd Mrs. Samuel Brainsample.
I'm not sure whether that just proves its really obscure or whether I'm getting senile.
steve simels, just leaving
Nah, your getting senile, old boy
So... I get here, and everyone leaves? Izzat it?
I haven't showered, I know...
.
I haven't showered, I know...
I think it's my new short haircut that's turning them away.
Chimpy: "We won't raise the terra alert in the US 'cause Ah'm not runnin' for reelection."
Ann Althouse tells me where to get off, earlier today.
Steve: perhaps you should be concerned that your behavior here is embarrassing you and might hurt your career if the people you need to impress noticed.
Note the veiled threat. That's what we call the "you'll never work in this town again" warning. Note also that she's so bloated on her own self-importance that she thinks she has the capacity to do me professional harm.
And then:
Steve: You seem to me to have a problem, so I'm asking you to leave and not post again. I perceive you to be stalking me and any further posting by you will be regarded as stalking. Go now and don't write another word.
Stalking? HAHAHAHAH!!! Right, lady, I'm posting from one of your shrubberies.
Wotta maroon....
The Register: Beavis and Butthead in London jihad
Haloscan: a decent idea, never properly implemented, whose time has come and gone.
Well, it seems the large scary burning man was successful in his suicide bomb attack, even if the bomb was not successful.
Can't Get Enough Of You Baby/Smokes (1967) (#56) This was the one I heard. Quite a long time ago when we were young, eh?
Haloscan: a decent idea, never properly implemented, whose time has come and gone.
dave™©
it works in theory
Nah, your getting senile, old boy
General Zod | 06.30.07 - 3:49 pm | #
Thus spake the guy who on his own blog posted about how everybody here is such a pathetic loser and you should on no account lower yourself by posting here.
Nice of you to drop by, pal.
...perhaps you should be concerned that your behavior here is embarrassing you and might hurt your career if the people you need to impress noticed.
I still say she copied that verbatim from her latest evaluation by her department head.
Two London car bombs were from Scotland. Damn Scots are revoltin' again.
I have a vague memory of that cheesy Farfisa organ lick on the ? & Mysterions second hit, but can't place the title.
I perceive you to be stalking me and any further posting by you will be regarded as stalking.
Wow. That's so stupid it's scary. This person is allowed to teach? *shudder*
so if Zod calls us losers for hanging out here and he posts, logically that makes him a loser as well
steve simels. what is a "getting senile" and where can I acquire one?
Blazing Car Rams Glasgow Airport
A couple of weeks back, there was a crack head that ran thru a crowd of people down in DC.
I didn't see CNN jacking off over that.
Good lord.
Haloscan: a decent idea, never properly implemented, whose time has come and gone.
dave™©
I completely agree.
OK, parts of the dog and the human are now purple and wet.
I miss any trolls?
BTW, what really seemed to tick the Miss Havisham of Wingnuttia off was not so much me making fun of her, but rather my posting the dirty lyrics to "These Foolish Things."
I guess Ms Carrot Sticks and Onion Ring Sex can dish it out, etc...
Thus spake the guy who on his own blog posted about how everybody here is such a pathetic loser and you should on no account lower yourself by posting here.
I never!
By the way, speaking as your sock puppet, could you avert your eyes when mommy's servicing me? It would improve my "performance," if you get my meaning...
so if Zod calls us losers for hanging out here and he posts, logically that makes him a loser as well
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 3:54 pm | #
You got it, kiddo.
And now I really am outta here.
See you guys in the late evening, j'espere.
Glasgow airport & London car bombs -Terrorists: 0
WHy is anne althouse eating that popsicle provacatively?
Wonder how long it'll be before all the iPhone people are sick and tired of AT&T's shitty service?
Steve: You seem to me to have a problem, so I'm asking you to leave and not post again. I perceive you to be stalking me and any further posting by you will be regarded as stalking. Go now and don't write another word.
Go now! Before I ask you to stay!
smalfish: I think it's my new short haircut that's turning them away.
That might also explain my unpopularity these last couple of weeks. But don't take it out on my cats!
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How about some Mysterons instead?
Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?
v=kwJWr_Zk1R8
The UK's national terrorism threat level has been raised to "critical" after attacks in Glasgow and London.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown urged the public to be vigilant and added: "I know the British people will stand together, united and resolute."
The announcement came after a meeting of the government emergencies committee Cobra, following a burning car being driven into a Glasgow airport terminal.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/62.../uk/
6257606.stm
Go now! Before I beg you to stay!
FYT
Phila--from below--
But treating it as the righteous judgment of Mother Nature is one of those things that sounds objective, but - IMO - really isn't.
Not righteous judgment--merely an analogy that underscores the effect human activity has on the environment. Al Gore uses the "fever" analogy in his lecture, after all.
G'dafternoon, folks.
What's shaking?
I perceive you to be stalking me and any further posting by you will be regarded as stalking.
Zod seems to be recycling annieangel material. Someone go tell Allen Butler's momma that someone is stealing her son's act.
Jesus Fucking Christ, Atrios, what will it take for you to ditch Hell-o-Scam?
I like the sound of a nicely hit tennis ball.
I perceive you to be stalking me and any further posting by you will be regarded as stalking.
Wow. That's so stupid it's scary. This person is allowed to teach? *shudder*
TheOtherWA
Well, there's one easy solution if you don't want people reading your opinions and making snide comments - keep a diary. Locked up. In your private bedroom.
Blogging - it's not for the stupid.
It's gotten as dark as sunset around here again. Rain about to pour out of the sky for yet another period.
Can someone hand this area a towel?
Jesus Fucking Christ, Atrios, what will it take for you to ditch Hell-o-Scam?
DELETE HIS FUCKING ACCOUNT, ATRIOS!
May I suggest we all take over this comments section until Haloscum is more, shall we say, agreeable?
CNN now reports that the large scary burning man who terrified people at Glascow, in fact, died on the way to the airport. Not on the way to the hospital.
Developing . . .
its been raining here on and off.
one minute its cold the next humid and warm.
barmy weathr
Wow, my homestate is really on quite the upswing these days. Another great example to put on the list!
CNN - anxiously awaiting cancellation of Wimbledon and the Diana Memorial Concert.
Man, halliburtosuck is fucks deluxe.
Blogging - it's not for the stupid.
Stinky
There is a diference between is and ought.
CNN failed to report on the furry terrorist puppy running amok in front of my car the other morning.
I Like the sound of Anna Kournikove hitting tennis balls...she really seems to be enjoying herself
CNN now reports that the large scary burning man who terrified people at Glascow, in fact, died on the way to the airport. Not on the way to the hospital.
So he was already dead when he was opening the trunk of his car while in flames? Now I'm really confused.
Wonder how long it'll be before all the iPhone people are sick and tired of AT&T's shitty service?
A hell of a lot faster than Black will get tired of this crap software.
So he was already dead when he was opening the trunk of his car while in flames? Now I'm really confused.
Yours is not to question, but to sorta pay attention.
I Like the sound of Anna Kournikove hitting tennis balls...she really seems to be enjoying herself
olexicon, at woik | 06.30.07 - 4:09 pm | #
Hell yes! (hi fives all around)
So he was already dead when he was opening the trunk of his car while in flames? Now I'm really confused.
Halfdan | 06.30.07 - 4:09 pm | #
Those asian islamofascists are not limited by Western Morals.
billy - you hit a home run on that last one, Bro.
Okay, off to change oils (surely pissing off condo association folx in the process).
♥
Glasgow Airport Incident
Can anyone tell me why I should be interested in a car accident half a world away?
Not righteous judgment--merely an analogy that underscores the effect human activity has on the environment. Al Gore uses the "fever" analogy in his lecture, after all.
Halfdan | 06.30.07 - 4:01 pm | #
Understood. Still, the fever-as-cure-for-infection metaphor is freighted with certain assumptions.
I'm just wary of anything that can be interpreted as saying AGW serves us right, or somehow redresses the wrongs done to nature. We'll probably survive; a lot of other organisms probably won't.
When people saw the truck coming towards the doors, they all ran in slow motion.
Fear is all around:
FEAR INC.
Ex-Soviet sold threat of bioterrorism
Dr. Ken Alibek's influence on U.S. policy and spending was based on dubious claims, a Times investigation finds.
By David Willman, Times Staff Writer
Los Angeles Times
WASHINGTON -- In the fall of 1992, Kanatjan Alibekov defected from Russia to the United States, bringing detailed, and chilling, descriptions of his role in making biological weapons for the former Soviet Union.
When people saw the truck coming towards the doors, they all ran in slow motion.
Gilly Gonzylon
you get paid extra for that
This is beginning to sound very unlike a terrorist attack.
So he was already dead when he was opening the trunk of his car while in flames? Now I'm really confused.
According to CNN, and I am now correcting this, large scary man was not burning man. There were two men in the car: large scary man and burning man. CNN reports that burning man died on the way to the airport. CNN does not explain how burning man was able to accost police or open the back door being dead at the time. (I know the damn news reader meant on the way to the hospital and not on the way to the airport, but I think I should be able to demand CNN do a better job of reading the news.)
Large scary man was attacked by people on the curb, one of whom broke his leg (not large scary man's leg; his own damn leg).
When people saw the truck coming towards the doors, they all ran in slow motion
Must have been all the 'ludes, man.
Understood. Still, the fever-as-cure-for-infection metaphor is freighted with certain assumptions.
The point I was trying to make was the in the face of all the ills this world is facing, I just don't see how anything will be done, except that Mother Nature will take her course. The entire point encompasses more than just climate change. Political nightmares have captured almost the entire planet. Something has to save us. And it ain't going to be ourselves.
It seems the trend in media with every single one of these "terrorist" stories is...
Zillions could have been killed and the world economy could have collapsed! Be afraid, very afraid!
Uh, actually, we exaggerated, but maybe a few people could have got hurt.
Uh, OK, so the "terrorists" were really just incompetent nincompoops. What do you want us to do about it? We report, you decide, you chumps.
It's funny how amusement park rides in this country kill more then terrorists but we still pay to go to them.
This is beginning to sound very unlike a terrorist attack.
Halfdan | 06.30.07 - 4:15 pm | #
The fact that guys GOT OUT of the truck isn't exactly Al Qaeda style suicide attack. And the pics of the guy shows more of a "Golden Dericious" asian than Arab.
About 50,000 people have died as a result of terrorist attacks. Medical malpractice kills more than that every year.
Something has to save us. And it ain't going to be ourselves.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.30.07 - 4:16 pm | #
Well, as I said below, if you've done everything you can, I take my hat off to you. I haven't.
Again, this is my problem with this argument. If we can't possibly save ourselves, isn't it logical to conclude we shouldn't try?
This is beginning to sound very unlike a terrorist attack.
No!!!
I'm shocked - SHOCKED - to discovezzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
About 50,000 people have died as a result of terrorist attacks. Medical malpractice kills more than that every year
That only depends on which health insurance carrier someone has.
What to do if you're in a similar situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h?
v=S3C6PBlu1WA
If we can't possibly save ourselves, isn't it logical to conclude we shouldn't try?
No.
is atrios an elite blogger? i mean he's not even begging for an iphone donation.
The fact that guys GOT OUT of the truck
And that one of them tried to kill himself before trying to hurt anyone else.
This is beginning to sound very unlike a terrorist attack
Or, another cheezy impersonation of a terrorist event, pulled off by our incompetent CIA.
Again, this is my problem with this argument. If we can't possibly save ourselves, isn't it logical to conclude we shouldn't try?
I dunno about giving up, but the problems we face are extraordinarily overwhelming.
So, we went and looked at this house today. Turns out, we probably make too much money to buy it (and we really don't make a lot...even combined).
Since a neighborhood org. rehabed it and got a ton of city and county money to do so, it has to be sold with a lot of stipulations. Kinda pissed us off...
it could just be a nasty accident
Zap Rowsdower, Yuppie | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:24 pm | #
$174,900 That's property in Socal. In 1966.
it could just be a nasty accident
Or a Falung Gong member who realized the best way to get attention for his cause was to immolate himself while making it look like a terrorist attack.
I dunno about giving up, but the problems we face are extraordinarily overwhelming.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.30.07 - 4:23 pm | #
Isn't it possible that they're overwhelming mainly because of the way you're looking at them?
I mean, you're threatened with death every second of every day. Does that seem overwhelming, or tempt you to say "why bother"?
Zap, $174,000 and it's restricted? I live in a different world.
I've got floors to seal, despite the inevitability of catastrophic climate change. So I'l have to wrap up with something I said elsewhere:
There's a lot to be said for realizing that if any good is to be done in the world, you're going to have to do it yourself.
So perhaps the real problem with apocalyptic thinking - right and left, secular and religious - is that it's an abdication of responsibility...people would rather give up the world than accept responsibility for it. If that makes sense.
I mean, you're threatened with death every second of every day. Does that seem overwhelming, or tempt you to say "why bother"?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:26 pm | #
Honestly ?
$174,000?
I could buy 160 acres with a 4 BR home, 3 barns, and the remaining farm equipment in the western U.P. for that money.
Green Sacred Cows #1: Romanticism
I dunno about giving up, but the problems we face are extraordinarily overwhelming.
They most certainly are not. We haven't even tried. We could turn this around quite easily.
This thing on?
$174,000?
I could buy 160 acres with a 4 BR home, 3 barns, and the remaining farm equipment in the western U.P. for that money.
Barndog's hologram | 06.30.07 - 4:28 pm | #
Yeah, but Michael Moore as a neighbor ?
Good for NH
48 Visitors Online
Pretty low for an afternoon.
I dunno about giving up, but the problems we face are extraordinarily overwhelming.
All the more reason to get creative and keep at it.
48 Visitors Online
Pretty low for an afternoon.
Richard | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:29 pm |
Thank me. The moment I start posting, the count plummets.
$174,000 and it's restricted? I live in a different world.
Yep.
I guess it was a shithole before the rehab. Pipes burst while it was vacant and some serious water damage. You couldn't even tell looking at it now.
But yeah, we pre-qualified for 170K, so we thought we could at least haggle them down. But with that income restriction, that's not even possible now.
I assume that everyone's seen this?
Yeah, but Michael Moore as a neighbor ?
He lives in the Flint area - some 450 miles away.
But, yeah. I'd take Mike as a neighbor. He's a good guy.
$174,000?
I could buy 160 acres with a 4 BR home, 3 barns, and the remaining farm equipment in the western U.P. for that money.
Barndog's hologram | 06.30.07 - 4:28 pm
Actually sounds like a plan, doesn't it?
Don't forget the girls who have a great relationship with their folks who don't want to tell them because they are afraid their parents will be disappointed in them.
(I wonder if haloscum will post this, or kick me out again. )
HAPPY (earlY) CANADA DAY MOE
Isn't it possible that they're overwhelming mainly because of the way you're looking at them?
I mean, you're threatened with death every second of every day. Does that seem overwhelming, or tempt you to say "why bother"?
One day at a time? I live by that creed, but I have this compulsion to look too far forward too much.
$174,900 That's property in Socal. In 1966.
My wife was watching "Same Time, Next Year" on one of the cable stations the other night. When an early 70s Alan Alda mentioned his "$150,000 house in Beverly Hills," she just started laughing...
I could buy 160 acres with a 4 BR home, 3 barns, and the remaining farm equipment in the western U.P. for that money.
Yeah, but it's the UP. 
Hecate, it's hotter than the bowels of Hades right now.
Some icy cool Stolis might work, in those cute little frozen glasses. You on?
Green Sacred Cows #1: Romanticism
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:28 pm | #
I agree with that post, by and large. The idea that there's such a thing as "wilderness" drives me nuts, in particular.
Yeah, but Michael Moore as a neighbor ?
Lock the refrigerator!
He's fat, you know...
My wife was watching "Same Time, Next Year" on one of the cable stations the other night.
I'm so sorry.
Actually sounds like a plan, doesn't it?
Yes. So happens my best friend owns it.
We haven't even tried. We could turn this around quite easily.
I don't know about the latter, but I agree about the former. For the most part, the problems are simply being ignored.
billy, rimshot
"But yeah, we pre-qualified for 170K, so we thought we could at least haggle them down. But with that income restriction, that's not even possible now."
--Zap Rowsdower,
So, if we started a Zap + Zappette fund, and you had $4k to start with, would it be allowable?
I'm so sorry.
It's one of her faves.
What are ya gonna do...
Yeah, but it's the UP.
Where winter leaves in May, and returns some years as early as September.
Ah, I think I'm banned over at Althouse, too.
I dunno, Barndog, I have not spent much time in the Western UP. Spent a considerable amount of time in the Eastern UP and I like it fine. I would imagine it is pretty similar.
Some icy cool Stolis might work, in those cute little frozen glasses. You on?
~Whips ice glasses out of freezer, wipes rims w/ fresh mint. Pours Stoli. Hands Sallyh a v. cold one.~
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:30 pm | #
Very cool ! The MSM is revolting ! Heh
Where winter leaves in May, and returns some years as early as September.
Barndog's hologram
And summer is two months of bad sledding?
Well, without the megapuss here, I'll have to come back later.
the SECOND hit by ? and the Mysterions...
Worked with a guy for years who was a distant relation of Question Mark's. Which I, of course, thought was the coolest thing ever...
Spent a considerable amount of time in the Eastern UP and I like it fine. I would imagine it is pretty similar
DWD - the west end averages around 290" of snow per annum.
OK, kids, I'll bite — U.P. is where, exactly?
Hecate, why thank you, dear goddess!
And how is Miss Thing?
UP Is Upper Peninsula of Michigan., Right?
What I wanted to post over there:
Okay, where's the outrage about "24"?
Americans are [it'd be removed by Annie, so I won't say it, but you know what I mean] in their pants in ecstasy as Jack whatever his name is gets to torture people every week. This is acceptable, even though very few Americans will ever get anywhere near anyone who could remotely be called a terrorist.
But Palestinians, who each and every one live day in and day out with the reality of Israeli terror, are condemned for recognizing the fact?
dave - Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
Where men are men, and sheep are scared.
Bobby Gimby's Canada Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1...h?v=18-
oRTLIe3I
For the most part, the problems are simply being ignored.
They're certainly not being ignored.
Our outrage is one part being ignored (SCLM) and another part stifled by our collective apathy ("What can I do? I'm only one person).
It's very painful to watch. But everyone knows that Iraq, for instance, is FUBAR. They know that the "reaction" to Katrina was a national shame that our government will never be able to shake...no matter who's in charge.
I dunno.
For the most part, the problems are simply being ignored.
If it was just ignorance I would have more hope. But this is willful aversion to even look at the problems by our leaders.
We do the things we can, but when it comes right down to it, who are the biggest contributors to the worlds problems? Are they doing anything? Anything at all?
Haloscan just sent me back in time 15 minutes. Where will this show up?
I think I'm banned over at Althouse, too.
I doubt it. If I'm not "banned," you're not banned. Try again.
I'm the canary in this coal mine...
Zap, it's the little stuff, that everyone does, that creates more than the sum of its parts.
i don't think you can rely on our leaders anymore these days, its up to you, your friends, your family, your neighbors or whatever to make a difference, however small
waiting for the saviour or some miracle to come along is not really productive
just my 2pence
Ah, I think I'm banned over at Althouse, too.
Moe Szyslak
Good. You were having entirely too much fun trolling.
OK, kids, I'll bite — U.P. is where, exactly?
Well in today's terminology it's Down.
The role of Shakespeare in the teaching of English at Oxford University may be downgraded as part of a proposal that has provoked outrage among scholars and thespians.
A document seen by The Independent reveals that, for the first time, in-depth examination of the works of the Bard would no longer be compulsory for English literature undergraduates.
The prospect of one of England's finest seats of learning putting less emphasis on the work of England's most significant literary figure sent shockwaves across the worlds of the arts and academia. The idea is expected to cause further outrage among teaching staff if it is put to a vote in the autumn.
http://
education.independent.co....icle2723246.ece
So, if we started a Zap + Zappette fund, and you had $4k to start with, would it be allowable?
My understanding is that it doesn't matter what you start with, but what you've made/are projected to make.
My last year being unemployed may help our chances, for instance. But Zapette's steady employment for the last 2-plus years may hamper it, too.
It's really nutty, and I understand what the neighborhood's trying to do. It's just that I've never been in a situation where I was told that I make too much money.
my dad thinks democracy as the West as we knows it has run its course.
what takes it place is the question.
I rewatched An Inconvenient Truth the other week and at the end of it, Gore makes the point that we do have what it takes to fix the problems that face our planet. What we lack is political will. I'd add, and the tools to overcome the corporatists.
I've put a post up over atPax about community organizing. Lots of the tools for using numbers to compete successfully against money and power were discovered years ago. We could use lots of them today.
Barndog,
I have good friends who live in Lake Linden. But I don't actually consider that Western UP. That is sort of NORTHERN UP. (And 300 inches plus is normal for them)
He used to be a state cop. David retired now.
Maybe it's that google sign in shit that's screwed up.
They're certainly not being ignored.
Come on. They're being acknowledged by some, but very little meaningful action is being taken. Certainly, as far as global warming goes, the surface is barely being scratched.
Richard | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:36 pm | #
I like how the 2002 Olympics ended with "Closing Time"
michael moore lives in nyc last i heard. and he is a rich mofo like everyone else who has power in the usa. but i have always loved his stuff ever since he walked up to newt gingrich in the middle of a 4th of july parade and interviewed him about government pork spending in his georgia district.
why don't people clamor for howard dean to run for pres liike so many do about no more gore? that is odd to me.
So if you're looking for a place to live...
OK, kids, I'll bite — U.P. is where, exactly?
dave™© | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:35 pm | #
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it's the part of wisconsin that sticks out into the lake just north of michigan
I rewatched An Inconvenient Truth the other week and at the end of it, Gore makes the point that we do have what it takes to fix the problems that face our planet.
This is how we do it.
Richard,
I say they're not being ignored because folks go out of their way to say that these are not problems. Global warming is a perfect example of that.
These jokers bend over backwards to say that it's not a problem, then are forced to defend their position by making shit up. We call them on it, and they try another tactic, like shaming.
They're not ignoring our problems, they're merely trying to deflect them.
it's the part of wisconsin that sticks out into the lake just north of michigan
With reference to NFL teams, this is completely true.
i don't think you can rely on our leaders anymore these days, its up to you, your friends, your family, your neighbors or whatever to make a difference, however small
You're limiting my scope of problems to just warming. The problems that seem insurmountable go far beyond that but in addition to. We have no control over what's happening to our food supply from China. We have no control over what's happening in Darfur. We have no control over our media. We have no control over the outsourcing of our jobs. We don't even have a say in much of it.
Sure, we can reduce our consumerism, our energy appetite and our consumption of television, but that leaves us far in the negative over what other problems are on our radar screen.
I guess, I got the negative nellies today. The rain isn't helping.
Maybe it's that google sign in shit that's screwed up.
Could be.
Like I said, if she doesn't ban me...!
Though I'm very jealous of Steverino for getting that "cease and desist" letter.
Talk about badge of honor!
dave™© | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:43 pm | #
That's prolly half a mill to $700K
"It's just that I've never been in a situation where I was told that I make too much money. "
wha?
"It's just that I've never been in a situation where I was told that I make too much money."
--Zap Rowsdower,
I am so curious. What is the top level of income you can make to buy a $174,000 house? What would the monthly payments be?
Maybe because we bought our home in 1988 and paid $75,000, I am in awe as to how much a house costs today.
Huh. Burning man in Scotland isn't dead. CNN carrying a press conference now.
She took out my comment about "Dick"ens' porn.
Huh. Burning man in Scotland isn't dead. CNN carrying a press conference now.
TheOtherWA | 06.30.07 - 4:45 pm | #
A favorite Rave...
my dad thinks democracy as the West as we knows it has run its course.
what takes it place is the question
You Dad is pretty sharp, Moon.
We have no control over what's happening to our food supply from China. We have no control over what's happening in Darfur. We have no control over our media. We have no control over the outsourcing of our jobs. We don't even have a say in much of it.
But you have all of the power. Just don't cede it to others.
From the Rude Pundit:
"You could be standing neck deep in a shit filled sewer, covered with syphilis sores and shoving a crucifix up your ass, and you'd still have the moral high ground over Ann Coulter."
I am so curious. What is the top level of income you can make to buy a $174,000 house? What would the monthly payments be?
Maybe because we bought our home in 1988 and paid $75,000, I am in awe as to how much a house costs today.
It's very curious, indeed.
Zapette and I were talking about it afterwords, and we asked that very question. Just who in the hell can afford it, then?
Search me...
That's prolly half a mill to $700K
In Pacifica? Could be.
Not that long ago, Pacifica was not considered "desirable." Oh, to have bought something then!
Of course, when I first moved to SF, in 1985, we lived in Noe Valley, in a duplex the owner said he had just bought for $100k. Many were the people who denigrated Noe Valley as being "pretty blue collar" when I told them where I lived.
Oh well...
We have no control over what's happening to our food supply from China.
No one is forcing you to buy food from China.
More Rudeness:
"Edwards was asking that Coulter stop the personal attacks on her husband, which is a little like asking a crack whore to stop blowing hobos for quarters."
No one is forcing you to buy food from China.
Well, it'd help if we actually knew what that was.
For example, anything pre-prepared in fast food restaurants? Didn't the brownshirts in Congress deep-six an "origin" labeling requirement a couple of years ago?
Trademark Dave,
Don't dismiss the UP too quickly: it is an amazingly beautiful, and rustic land. Trees that are amazingly huge. Rough cut rocks ripping out of large hills. Majestic waterfalls and many thousands of lakes and rivers. And VERY FEW FUCKING PEOPLE which is probably its most endearing characteristic.
Going to see SiCKO? Check out all the numbers on the sorry state of the U.S. health care system:
"A SiCKO Guide: U.S. Health Care by the Numbers."
I knew Coulter was a crack whore.
Of course, when I first moved to SF, in 1985, we lived in Noe Valley, in a duplex the owner said he had just bought for $100k. Many were the people who denigrated Noe Valley as being "pretty blue collar" when I told them where I lived.
Oh well...
dave™© | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:47 pm |
Lofts in downtown LA are almost affordable. Problem is, downtown LA isn't Soho, and I doubt it will be for 20-30 more years. By that time, the loft will be Soho loft priced.
we have every control over our lives, the elites prefer you didn't know this and encourage you not to, alternatives are disparaged and pushed to the edges or are co-opted into the state captalist system by showing a rebel with honours and make small diluted concessions, so they become part of the establishment
whether its promising the 'free market' or throwing money at a problem.
No one is forcing you to buy food from China.
Moe Szyslak
Last night, Moe, Echidne and Spocko were instructing us in this. Apparently buying food that is not originating in China, at least in part, is nigh unto impossible now. . . .
Gilly, you're in the L.A. area?
I live in the SFV.
And VERY FEW FUCKING PEOPLE which is probably its most endearing characteristic
Except at any little bar you encounter. They're packed with people from miles around. All 10-15 seats that is.
Gilly, you're in the L.A. area?
I live in the SFV.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.30.07 - 4:51 pm | #
Lets just say your daytime temperatures are 20 degrees higher than mine
I THINK THE MEDIA YS TRYING TO THROW SICKO OFF THE FRONT PAGE WITH THE NON TERRA NON EVENTS
sittenpretty,creamsickle | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 4:50 pm | #
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No one is forcing you to buy food from China.
Uhh, I beg to differ. Consider that we have two grocery stores that are reasonable to drive to (within a couple miles), we are limited in what we can buy to what they put on the shelves. If any of it is from China, and we need to consume it, are we not then forced?
Don't dismiss the UP too quickly...
I don't think I have (yet!). I just had no idea where it was.
Believe me, I'd love to move to a place where it was a helluva lot cheaper to live. My main problem is finding a place where there's steady demand for graphics types and that will pay me at least in proportion to what I'm making in the Bay Area.
Gilly, we just might need to go drinking.
Consider that we have two grocery stores that are reasonable to drive to
Can you not demand local produce?
my dad also takes a dim view of human beings, seeing the fact that people can be bastards.
so he has no time for referendums, thinks they are a waste of time
he said if he got to rule Britain he would get rid of Trident and instead invest in a smaller, more flexible nuclear deterance, doesn't have to be 100%
money saved would go towards equipping the arms forces better and towards education and so forth
affordable housing, good TV shows.
he said 'I would be a benevolent dictator'
oh and also he would pass a law to only pass one law a year
Last night, Moe, Echidne and Spocko were instructing us in this. Apparently buying food that is not originating in China, at least in part, is nigh unto impossible now. . . .
DWD
I take trademark Dave's point about restaurant food, but as for what I cook at home-- I get all of my veggies from my back yard garden, and most everything else I need at the farmers market or co-op. Maybe something slips through, but for the most part, I don't think I'm eating much from China.
Moonbo, da's a bit of a curmudgeon, is he?
Moonbo, da's a bit of a curmudgeon, is he?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.30.07 - 4:56 pm | #
yeah, a 61 year old grumpy man.
in fact for his b-day he was given a t-shirt with the motto 'Grumpy Old Man'
which he wears proudly
"More Rudeness:
"Edwards was asking that Coulter stop the personal attacks on her husband, which is a little like asking a crack whore to stop blowing hobos for quarters." "
if all was 'balanced' in the media, and if rude dropped the profanity, rude would be run in syndication all across merka...just like ann.
but we don't have that, because the most far left columnist allowed is richard cohen.
a grumpy old man but he did get me a Nikon D40x so ya know I forgive him for it!
Moonbo, mine's only 51 and already grumpy.
Oh, hell, what am I saying? He was born that way
No one is forcing you to buy food from China.
Moe Szyslak
In little towns like mine, Wal- Mart has wiped out most of the retail places. What we buy is what they choose to sell us.
Moonbo, mine's only 51 and already grumpy.
Oh, hell, what am I saying? He was born that way
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.30.07 - 4:58 pm | #
my mum sez when she married my father he was an easy going fun guy, she said 'I'd never imagine he'd get so grumpy'
Can you not demand local produce?
Demand?
I was at a store the other day that we saw a "barbie pole dancer" toy. It was right in the middle of the lane to exit the store. We were both appalled at the very idea of it and further by where it was located. We decided it was unacceptable and made the cashier get the store manager. We made it clear to him our objections, and made demands that later were found to be unheard, and unacted on.
Our "demands" fall on deaf ears.
In little towns like mine, Wal- Mart has wiped out most of the retail places. What we buy is what they choose to sell us.
Lumpenprolitariot
I suggest you start a buyers' club. I'm in one-- we meet once a month, place an order for various things from mostly local producers, have a big party. We actually end up saving money on our groceries.
Moonbo, if Monsieur ever becomes perky, I'm having him examined for head injuries.
Our "demands" fall on deaf ears.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
Men are playahs and women are ho's you gotta problem with that? What are you, some sort of radical?
In little towns like mine, Wal- Mart has wiped out most of the retail places. What we buy is what they choose to sell us.
Supply-side economics is false. Economics is driven by demand, not the other way round.
"Edwards was asking that Coulter stop the personal attacks on her husband, which is a little like asking a crack whore to stop blowing hobos for quarters"
I, for one, resent being compared to Ann Coulter.
Our "demands" fall on deaf ears.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.30.07 - 4:59 pm | #
It's the Barbie Lap Dancer we need to be concerned about.
I suggest you start a buyers' club. I'm in one-- we meet once a month, place an order for various things from mostly local producers,
And where do your local producers get supplied from?
huzzah!
Now my work is actually working
and MY assignment for the day got postponed (golf Tournamnet)
I will get a portion of a saturday
(the end portion)
Since I consider this an open thread now, I wish to announce Houndin went to the vet today for her yearly checkup/shots and she has lost 5 lbs. since her visit last summer. Was 75/now 70. She could still stand to lose another five pounds, but still, I'm pround of myself. Dogs love table scraps, so I just feed her less dog chow at dinner time.
as for what I cook at home-- I get all of my veggies from my back yard garden, and most everything else I need at the farmers market or co-op. Maybe something slips through, but for the most part, I don't think I'm eating much from China.
Well, I don't know about fresh vegetables... what about meat? That's what I'm more concerned about.
Where's the "chicken" in those "Chicken McNuggets" coming from? I don't eat 'em (well, rarely), but millions do.
Or the sausage in those frozen pizzas? Etc etc and etc...
Of course, if there were a labeling law that told you the origin of the meat, you might not buy it. Which is why there isn't.
My local grocery store labels all produce by its origin. Maybe the local shrimp industry has made the public more aware of the issue, but stores supply what consumers demand.
James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at the Heartland Institute.
They one-upped Bobo's World(tm).
Mer, good news!
My Rhodesian suffers from hypothyroidism, so we have to monitor her food intake carefully. Which is hard when you've got a hound.
I was at a store the other day that we saw a "barbie pole dancer" toy.
Man, I'm so out of it...
Song of the day
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/
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And where do your local producers get supplied from?
They produce the goods.
James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at the Heartland Institute.
wow, former presidnet James Taylor
Trademark Dave,
I went to school in da UP, and let me tell ya, it's a haven for artists.
Loved it up there.
Except for the fact that there are no jobs, and the winter regularly brings -18F temps, and snow drifts taller than the abominable snowman.
sallyh, is that ridgeback?
New Bob Herbert here:
http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...001/
herbert.htm
I was at a store the other day that we saw a "barbie pole dancer" toy.
You're kidding.
When Mlle was little, we had Barbie the veterinarian, the pilot, the doctor, the schoolteacher...I was never a Barbie fan, but at least they were representing occupations that would desirable for a young girl to be interested in.
They produce the goods.
C'mon. Goods are not a zero sum input output.
That Glasgow constable dude looked like John Ashcroft.
There are lots of local livestock farmers, and some of them are organic. I buy from a guy who grows his own feed. I've even been to the farm to see the operation.
I don't know, if you spend a little time, you can figure this stuff out.
Olexicon, yes.
She also suffers from hip dysplasia (congenital).
Except for the fact that there are no jobs, and the winter regularly brings -18F temps, and snow drifts taller than the abominable snowman.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 06.30.07 - 5:04 pm | #
There are jobs, if you're not lazy.
I agree with that post, by and large. The idea that there's such a thing as "wilderness" drives me nuts, in particular.
I don't know. I know what you mean, but I think sometimes we make a mistake by assuming that everything that looks like European Romanticism can be deconstructed under that rubric. For example, many of the most successfully sustainable societies have what we would assume to be "Romantic" views of nature.
gotta go...
What do you need from China to grow organic corn or asparagus?
When Mlle was little, we had Barbie the veterinarian, the pilot, the doctor, the schoolteacher...I was never a Barbie fan, but at least they were representing occupations that would desirable for a young girl to be interested in.
well the barbie pole dancer toy was not my point, but to be fair to the store, the maker thoughtfully put a warning on the side of the box that the toy was for adult entertainment only.
There are jobs, if you're not lazy.
Shirley, you snark!
There was one job - once - that I could have maybe gone for up there. Communications Manager at Marquette General.
Beyond that, there are very few jobs in my field in da UP.
Marge: But on the other hand, when you don't take advantage of an
opportunity, you can end up regretting it for the rest of your
life.
Homer: You're right, Marge. Just like the time I could have met Mr. T
at the mall. The entire day I kept saying, "I'll go a little
later. I'll go a little later." And then when I got there, they
told me he'd just left. And when I asked the mall guy if he
would ever come back again, he said he didn't know. Well, I'm
never going to let something like that happen again! I'm going
into space right now
Sallyh, really. Now I have to take the other one to the vet next week. He weighs 115 lbs. Maybe he will have lost five or ten pounds too. I do think they will live longer if they are not overweight.
I went to school in da UP, and let me tell ya, it's a haven for artists.
I'm not one of those "sit around the coffeshop and produce a painting every two years" kinda artists. Although I can certainly fulfill the "sit around the coffeeshop" portion of the equation!
OTOH, my wife's got her numerology side biz going, and that sort of thing goes over big amongst the artistes... if I could get something going reasonably steady telecommuting, she'd love to move to Mendocino (well, more like Fort Bragg - a little more affordable).
Smalfish, yeah, that seems reasonable.
I didn't like Barbies growing up, but Mlle loved them, as did her friends, and I will always be grateful to Mattel's mythical girl for providing me with hours in which to study and work.
Gotta go eat something. All this talk about diseased Chinese food is making me hungry...
Later!
For some reason Vicki, I just can't see you slinging a chainsaw, cutting pulp logs for a living.
She also suffers from hip dysplasia (congenital).
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
MY friend in Calgary losy his rhodie "Champ"< Champ was ten years old, and larger than me
Just seeing if i got proper knowledge
Controller: Er, some good news, gentlemen. We have quite a treat for
you. We've been able to coax superstar James Taylor in here
to Mission Control to wish you well and play you a little
bit of his own brand of laid-back adult contemporary music.
Homer: Wow, former president James Taylor.
Taylor: How ya doin', fellas?
Buzz: With all due respect, Mr. Taylor, this isn't the best time
for your unique brand of bittersweet folk rock. We have a
potentially critical situation here. I'm sure you'll
understand.
Taylor: Listen, Aldrin, I'm not as laid back as people think. Now
here's the deal: I'm going to play, and you're going to
float there and like it.
[sings]
When you're down, and troubled,
And you need a helping hand,
And nothing, oh, nothing is going right..
There are jobs, if you're not lazy.
Doing what?
For some reason Vicki, I just can't see you slinging a chainsaw, cutting pulp logs for a living.
I'm a lumberjack
And I'm OK!
i had lots of Barbie and Sindy dolls when I was little.
would spend hours creating dramas, tragedies and romances
Olexicon, Ginger's not that big at 90 lbs., but she should really weigh closer to 80.
Local supermarket had a promotional appearance, giving away free hot dogs, had to go on a drive to round up the football team kids...
when I had a bad case of the flu, my mum brought 2 Barbie dolls to cheer me up
Barndog,
I can't even plunge a toilet, so I think my attempt at manuevering a chain saw would pretty much be both foolish and futile.
Oh dear - I mowed the lawn, put on the sprinkler, and forgot about it.
As the Penguin says - gotta fly!
Moonbo, Mlle and her friends still remember long summer days of playing with the Barbies at our house, with me neglecting them utterly (if benignly).
I was at a store the other day that we saw a "barbie pole dancer" toy.
Man, I'm so out of it...
dave™©
I guess Blowjob Barbie© will be out any day now.
sheets
Olexicon, Ginger's not that big at 90 lbs., but she should really weigh closer to 80.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I swear that champ was just as big as me
Good for Republican shirts.
~
Get a load of this AP article...
'Sicko' film gives accused little say
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070...CjZ_XGS_6FxFb8C
Would the AP ever "fact" check the GOP like this?
"would spend hours creating dramas, tragedies and romances"
--Moonbootica,
Dolls are good for that. Barbie didn't exist (except for my sister, her name) when I was young. We did have baby dolls and played hospital a lot. Also, housewives, but hey, that was the fifties.
When Mlle was little, we had Barbie the veterinarian, the pilot, the doctor, the schoolteacher...I was never a Barbie fan, but at least they were representing occupations that would desirable for a young girl to be interested in.
well the barbie pole dancer toy was not my point, but to be fair to the store, the maker thoughtfully put a warning on the side of the box that the toy was for adult entertainment only.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted
I have a button that says "I want to BE Barbie. The Bitch HAS everything!"
I pinned it on the Betsy McCall doll standing on my home entertainment unit.
I don't understand why a minor shouldn't be required to notify her parents if she's getting an abortion. Parents are responsible for their kids and they have a right to know about this kind of stuff before it happens.
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