I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Santorum Sheets!
Uh.... ew.
I use the grocery bags for garbage bags and thus don't have to buy plastic garbage bags. I thought everyone did that.
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That sounds almost like a bad acid trip.
Atrios, we really don't need to know about your anal sex dreams, thanks.
hey peeps
qlª: I use the grocery bags for garbage bags and thus don't have to buy plastic garbage bags. I thought everyone did that.
I also do this, but I also buy the Aldi plastic tote bags (very heavy, 10 cents), since the handles are very strong, and I can hang them off the underseat helmet hook on the Vino, and easily and securely get my groceries home.
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Good morning, all 47 of you.
Huh. Maybe the "buy this canvas bag" thing hasn't come to the states? All the major grocery store chains here are promoting it big time.
Game?
Game?
Game?
Game?
MAN
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DOG
The Meowinator.
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Maybe the "buy this canvas bag" thing hasn't come to the states
Yrah, we have it. But, people don't care to buy 15 of them in order to get their groceries home to their families.
Atrios had frothy dreams
Seems like having a goat like Santorum working against you would be a plus for McCain. Now I'm worried.
I'm game.
Game?
V for Virginia
yes please, but I'm gonna be in and out. I have shit to do, unfortunately.
What's disturbing about the Santorum story is that pulling out on GHWB appears in retrospect to have been a sound move. They got someone to beat up on for 8 years, took control of congress, went batshit insane with power, and got to this point, anyway.
Quite the most depressing thought of the morning, carried out to its logical conclusion.
ql & rors? Anyone else?
Most grocery stores here sell cloth bags for a dollar. I buy one every few weeks, have a good collection now.
But they don't like to put their groceries in other stores' bags.
Dean Benbow gave all the Peabody staff a canvas bag, an insulated coffee mug and a flashlight with a hand-cranked generator that will also charge a cell phone. All to "green" the campus.
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one of the great hopes of the redstate types is that the pelicans will have a brokered convention and either sanatorium or macaca will emerge as the candidate....from their fingertips to god's eyes.....pleeeeezzzzzeeeeeee
Huh. Maybe the "buy this canvas bag" thing hasn't come to the states? All the major grocery store chains here are promoting it big time.
Moe Szyslak
But then what do you put your garbage in.
Well I was awake much of last night thinking about whether or not I want to join the dark side. An opportunity seems be available to move into an administrative position.
I'm game too!
But I have to leave in 2 hours for a show, just so you know.
Even after these bastards are humiliated and driven from office, they return to haunt you. Like fucking zombies, they are.
Me three, V.
he says, I probably shouldn't talk about that on a train, I'll call you later on that topic. And it really made me wonder how bad the topic could be.
Probably pretty bad. The mind reels (in directions better left unexplored)...
I may also have to go get some shit done... so it might be wise to include me out of this particular round...
You guys play w/o me then. So as not to have to pause when I would have to leave.
Oh, hell, we have five takers.
What should I do?
Um, that's not a dream, that's one of those other things.
An opportunity seems be available to move into an administrative position.
Gromit
I did that and while the money was nice and needed, I went from a job I loved to one I was very happy to leave behind. Didn't hate it, but wasn't happy with it either.
It's really amazing the sort of shit people will talk about in a public place on their fucking cell phones...
Oh, and I blame Pennsylvania.
Most grocery stores here sell cloth bags for a dollar.
See, they've gone from having to pay for their own plastic bags to getting the sucker customers to buy yet something else from them.
But then what do you put your garbage in.
qlª
Well, the trashcan. We don't generate much actual trash. Maybe one can full a month.
Me, Molly, ql, then; ql's turn.
V, molly and me.
A threesome.
Where's Chi Dyke?
That sounds almost like a bad acid trip.
heh. Yep.
How in the world are these people still calling the shots?
stupid cnn headline:
Obama's legitimacy on line in South Carolina
[reposted from the dead thread, and it's Saturday, so don't give me any shit]
Okay, here goes.
This pains me to say, but frankly with the exception of the obviously asinine stuff -- you know, that they're Communists, that Hillary murdered her lesbian lover Vince Foster, or the Whitewater bullshit -- I have come to the conclusion that most of the crap the wingnuts say about the Clintons is actually true. I think they're totally unprincipled and ruthless and I don't trust either of them as far as I could throw them. Plus it's becoming increasingly impossible to ignore the fact that Bill is running for a third term. This is fucking unprecedented and I'm amazed that nobody here seems to view it with alarm....
Okay, let's grab the burritos, the cat litter and the etc. etc. etc.
Oh, and write about the rage-inducing DVD we watched, Thursday night.
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Know about that conversation makes me feel better about McCain, actually. No, I will not vote for him, ever. But at the very least, he's not in the movement's pocket.
Obama's legitimacy on line in South Carolina
trifecta
Ready to hear Wolf raise the question of whether his parents were married or not. "Some are saying . . ."
We get the paper bags and use them to carry the rest of our recycling out to the dumpsters.
Shots? Did someone say shots?
I have come to the conclusion that most of the crap the wingnuts say about the Clintons is actually true. I think they're totally unprincipled and ruthless and I don't trust either of them as far as I could throw them. Plus it's becoming increasingly impossible to ignore the fact that Bill is running for a third term.
You're smoking a cigarette now, aren't you?
Shots? Did someone say shots?
Barndog, not so cold
Make sure yours are up to date before you wade into the fray around here 
Sounds like McCain has some more huggin' to do.
I see. Everybody's up here:
dead-threaded comment 1:
This is fucking unprecedented and I'm amazed that nobody here seems to view this with alarm....
steve simels
Sleazy and ruthless presidents are unprecedented? I'd say that it's the squeaky clean ones that would be almost without precedent.
blerb, reefer mad
dead-threaded comment 2:
Maybe the "buy this canvas bag" thing hasn't come to the states? All the major grocery store chains here are promoting it big time.
Moe Szyslak
That's been happening for well over a decade around here. Androgynous Park n' Rob sells logo bags. I think the Bowl's are blank. I buy one of them and fill it with folded-up double paper bags,which I use like a dozen times before sending out the paper recycling in them.
blerb, reefer mad
...it's becoming increasingly impossible to ignore the fact that Bill is running for a third term.
Not that I agree with you, but this is a bad thing?
I'd appreciate a little competence in the Oval Office for a fucking change...
Hey Jeff how many people do we need for a quorum, anyhow?
QL-- I was a university VP for five years, ending up five years ago, and enjoyed the work. So I'm comfortable with the job, and know that I'd be working with good people. The issue is that I'd have to further scale back my research efforts. But with what has been happening with the NIH budget things are heading in that direction anyway. And I have a good senior person in my lab whose best chance for an independent career might be taking over my operation.
Apparently Hillary now wants to reinstate the deligates from MI and FL.
And just when I was starting to get become ambivalent towards her.
A dead Democrat as president is preferable to a live Repukkke, or what might pass for a live Repukkke.
Apparently Hillary now wants to reinstate the deligates from MI and FL.
How are they going to have a convention an not seat the delegates of the 4th largest state in the country?
I don't know wtf to think about MI, since their ballot was so fucked up, but they can send their undecided delegates and duke it out on the floor, I guess.
Androgynous Park n' Rob
I assume you're referring to Andronico's.
When I first moved out into the Sunset in SF, they were a nice, old-time supermarket with a fabulous meat section. There turn to "upscale-ness" never settled well with me (and doesn't seem to be doing them much good - they had to close their outpost in Walnut Creek after only a couple of years and millions spent on a brand-new building).
Not that I agree with you, but this is a bad thing?
It's a step backward. Better than two steps backward, but not as good as a step forward.
[reposted from the dead thread, and it's Saturday, so don't give me any shit]
Okay, here goes
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Clintons have exposed an underbelly that should offer a lethal target. One can hope.
Moe!
Trader Joe's! Six bottle canvas bags!
No, what I'm saying that a co-presidency is a bad thing.
Look how well we're doing with Bush and Cheney.
In any case, Bill's had two terms. And they weren't that fucking great. Nafta? Media consolidation? Triangulation?
Fuck him...enough.
Some president was in a coma or something, and he did a better job than Dumbya.
How are they going to have a convention an not seat the delegates of the 4th largest state in the country?
No fucking shit.
Oh, but it's HITLERY. She's EEEEEEEEEVILLLLLLLLLL!!!
"I have come to the conclusion that most of the crap the wingnuts say about the Clintons is actually true.
steve simels"
Our work here is done.
[/liberal media]
WSJ at a Rudy! event
At a stop in a strip mall, he jumped on a makeshift stage in front of his bus. When his microphone didn't work, he tried yelling to the mostly elderly folks who gathered. Al Geiger, adjusting his hearing aid, whispered to his wife about leaving to catch an early movie. At that moment, the mike came on, and Mr. Giuliani's voice was so loud he seemed to be screaming as he said, "I can handle whatever the terrorists, or catastrophes, throw at us."
At most campaign stops, he slips in a back door and waits behind a blue curtain while someone warms up the crowd. On two recent days it was actor Jon Voight, who talked about his movies and how bad he said New York City was before Mr. Giuliani became mayor.
Actually, anymore I get so few things from the grocery store that it all fits in my backpack. I get the other stuff at the farmers market, where I'm heading anon, or via the buyers club, or the garden.
Okay, Molly. Go on ahead and put me out of misery on our game...
I guess 3 wins out of 4 games ain't too bad...
How are they going to have a convention an not seat the delegates of the 4th largest state in the country?
They all agreed. For what that's worth.
The MI and FL delegates will be reinstated, it's just a question of when. HRC is trying to make it be sooner rather than later, which benefits her. She's playing to win. Yes, it's opportunistic, but so what.
[BTW I'm voting for Edwards in the primary.]
Good morning .... don't know if anyone saw this, but they've started jumping off of bridges:
The vice president of a bankrupt Columbia mortgage lender apparently jumped to his death from the Delaware Memorial Bridge yesterday shortly after his wife's body was found inside their New Jersey home, police said.
Police are investigating the deaths of Walter P. Buczynski, 59, and his wife, Marcie Buczynski, 37, as a murder-suicide.
Bill's had two terms. And they weren't that fucking great. Nafta? Media consolidation? Triangulation?
Big surplus? Economy that worked? No fucking wingnut fundamentalists nominated to the Supreme Court?
Keep in mind Clinton was never left enough for me, and no presidential candidate ever will be, in my lifetime anyway.
Gee, steve. Too bad you missed the person this morning who wished them both dead.
Halfdan: Hey Jeff how many people do we need for a quorum, anyhow?
I think we'll do it, no matter how few show up. I'm trying to connect with some other good libbies, too.
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I guess 3 wins out of 4 games ain't too bad...
rorschach
[fishslap]
What is it with the asshole mortgage guys taking their wives with them on their suicide journey? There was one the other day, too.
Jon Voight, who talked about his movies and how bad he said New York City was before Mr. Giuliani became mayor.
P O'Neill
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heh, no wonder Angelina keeps him away from the kids.
Good morning .... don't know if anyone saw this, but they've started jumping off of bridges:
The vice president of a bankrupt Columbia mortgage lender apparently jumped to his death from the Delaware Memorial Bridge yesterday shortly after his wife's body was found inside their New Jersey home, police said.
Police are investigating the deaths of Walter P. Buczynski, 59, and his wife, Marcie Buczynski, 37, as a murder-suicide.
Southern Beale
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oh my lord, I feel awful!!! I was just joking the other day when I said I was waiting for people to start jumping out of windows. or off bridges
Gee, steve. Too bad you missed the person this morning who wished them both dead.
Molly Ivors, Edwardian | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:13 am | #
Say what?
"Oh, but it's HITLERY. She's EEEEEEEEEVILLLLLLLLLL!!!
dave™©"
It was/is a giant DNC fuck up. But marshall and the other tweetyesque blowhards luv bashing Hillary.
Short and sweet smackdown of marshall:
Again, those pesky facts get in the way. If Hillary does that, it will be in accordance with the RULE that states that the Convention delegates CAN do this. When the DNC made its ruling, it allowed for these delegates to be seated by a simple majority of the convention delegates.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/20...1/26/04244/
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Clinton's presidency was so good for us.
There was one the other day, too.
Moe Szyslak
It was that one.
And I'm crushed -- CRUSHED -- that after I giggled at myself taking a snap of that parade float at school the other day I get nothing out of you.
.(and doesn't seem to be doing them much good - they had to close their outpost in Walnut Creek after only a couple of years and millions spent on a brand-new building
And that was a far better store than the ones on University, Telegraph, or Solano. The one at Shattuck X Cedar is a decent store, but the fact that it was once the Co-op keeps me from ever going in there. The produce prices at the one on Telegraph are Ree-diculous. I don't understand why anybody shops there regularly, when you can get the exact same produce items, usually at better quality, for 1/3-1/2 the price at the Bowl, which is a mere 5 blocks away.
Sigh. One of the biggest
Police are investigating the deaths of Walter P. Buczynski, 59, and his wife, Marcie Buczynski, 37, as a murder-suicide.
Southern Beale
This has to be a selfish Repukkke. Not content with killing themselves, they have to take others with them.
Steve--Bill Clinton is so unprincipled that he either enacted or attempted to enact and was thwarted by Congress almost all the things he promised to do in campaigning for president. Kathleen Hall Jamison did a study of how well candidates' promises correlate with what they do, and this was what she found about Clinton.
I don't have the study at hand, but will do some googling. I know it was discussed on PBS, probaly with Bill Moyers.
The point of the discussion was that it is important for the MCM to report on what candidates say they will do, and then to keep track of how well they do.
Oops. Truncated my closing thought. One of the biggest bummers about buying a house in the WC will be no longer being able to walk to the Bowl.
I'll take another 8 years of peace and prosperity (and competence).
Sheets. Be mindful of the shit at the front.
The one at Shattuck X Cedar is a decent store, but the fact that it was once the Co-op keeps me from ever going in there.
Man, I loved the Co-op...
Police are investigating the deaths of Walter P. Buczynski, 59, and his wife, Marcie Buczynski, 37, as a murder-suicide.
Southern Beale
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The local coverage was grim. They lived above their means even when solvent and she was high-maintenance as hell and evidently wouldn't get with the program that they were going broke. I didn't know there was such a big age difference, tho.
The very first thing I remember about Clinton's presidency was his throwing gay people under the bus. The very first "uh-oh . . ."
Yannow. We're all friends and respect each other. We all feel strongly about one candidate or another. In the end, we're all agreed that anyone of the Dems would be better than what the rethugs decide to run. We ought to tone it down, just a tad. Pissing up a rope, I know.
RE: An Interesting Train Ride, this doesn't surprise me at all. My one conservative friend who is now in a quandry because Fred Thompson fizzled out told me he will vote for the Dem if McCain or Romney get the nom ... says they're too liberal, and he'd rather "a Democrat make those liberal mistakes," not a Republican.
heh.
I'll take another 8 years of peace and prosperity (and competence).
No! As trademark dave noted, it's EEEEVVVVIIILLL!
How are they going to have a convention an not seat the delegates of the 4th largest state in the country?
She was okay with it before her victory looked like a sure thing. I do like her, but this kind of party boss tactic is exactly the reason I don't want Clinton 2.0.
[fishslap]
V for Virginia | 01.26.08 - 10:13 am | #
Molly took care of that, sure enough.
The very first thing I remember about Clinton's presidency was his throwing gay people under the bus. The very first "uh-oh . . ."
That is NOT how I remember it. I remember him getting kicked in the teeth by a bunch of so-called "moderates" and middle of the roaders on that issue. And don't forget Colin Powell.
in the WC will be no longer being able to walk to the Bowl.
You must have a huge bathroom.
The era of big government is over.
The very first thing I remember about Clinton's presidency was his throwing gay people under the bus. The very first "uh-oh . . ."
Yep. He caved on that particular right quick.
But yet I yearn for the days when my president merely frustrated and disappointed me, rather than disgusting and horrifying me.
The conservative hatred of McCain is deep. I'm dating a conservative--`nuff said. He hates McCain and wants Romney. Yup. A couple of weeks ago he wanted Thompson of Hollywood and even flirted with Giuliani. Now he wants Romney. I say, "Me too!" Romney is more easily beatable than McCain, who is also very beatable, but not in such wide margins. He almost doesn't seem to care. He just hates McCain. Go figure.
Last night I listened to about two hours of political analysis, or what passes for it these days. I know, bad Neponset. Anyway, these people, national and local types, were trashing the Clintons for their refusal to play by the same rules as everyone else. For being ambitious. For saying anything to win. And all I could think of was how these same people have lived through the Bush years and never said a peep about Bush and Cheney who do all the same things by a factor of 1000. Maddening. As bad as W is, I think I hate these media snobs more.
I also use plastic grocery bags for garbage--however, increasingly, the plastic is so thin or the seam so poorly adheres, that it has holes and leaks if anything with liquid or tendency to liquify goes into it.
So, I test each bag and keep the good ones to use for garbage and put the useless ones into recycling. I collect the other plastic bags to give to a local Salvation Army/Goodwill type place which always needs bags for their sales. Recycling of bags is done only by Walmart (and not all stores), Shop Rite, and, I just found, Acme around here. I've read that manufacturers of items made from recycled plastic can't get enough, but they're still not actively recycled. I carry used bags home with me from returns to recycle--and wonder if the stores think I keep them to shoplift...
Good news is that my town has finally agreed to collect all paper goods: corrugated cardboard on separate day, but now newspapers, junk mail, magazines, thin cardboard they call chipboard (food item packaging, etc.), gift boxes--viturally any paper item can be now be put out--even in brown grocery bags, previously refused--or in recycling containers. No need to tie the newspapers--which later had to have the twine cut off.
Not a huge thing, but saves having to drive to the recyling center to drop off the paper items (newspapers, mixed recyclables--limited to certain numbered plastics, and the corrugated only had been picked up before this).
Bad thing is that this is not yet required. Mixed recyclables found in regular garbage gets an organge notice and can be refused. But people can still game the system. Neighbors tell me it's just too much to have to separate their garbage. Harumph.
That was a very interesting story. It also bodes ill for our friends in the GOP.
Romney can't get elected because the South will not vote for a Mormon. Huckabee can't get elected because he is a theocrat, and makes no bones about it. His quote about rewriting the Constitution to agree with the Bible is too far for most of the country (unless I am badly mistaken, in which case it's Canada for me.) Guiliani can't get elected because he's Guiliani. McCain could get elected, but not if the GOP hierarchy hates him. (I think McCain gets the nomination.)
I am confident that the White House goes blue in 2008; never mind Iraq, the economy will do it. Then the GOP will spend the next four years playing Monday morning quarterback and tearing themselves to pieces.
Works for me.
V for Virginia | 01.26.08 - 10:17 am ~~~ Sam Nunn attacking Clinton for doing what he had said he would do about gays in the military and then the MCM piling on was my first realization that the Dems in Congress were not going to help Clinton achieve what he wanted to do.
I could not understand why Nunn did that--especially since he then didn't run for reelection and satisfying his rightwad consituency seemed to be the only reason he acted as he did. But, now, I think the Bush Dog-type Dems were giving the new president notice that he might be president, but he wasn't going to necessarily get their support.
I despise Sam Nunn--lost all respect for him. Seeing him in the Unity '08 group sure defined what they were about.
Romney can't get elected because the South will not vote for a Mormon.
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I don't know. All they have to do is remove that second M and the south will vote him. They voted for the last moron. So did the midwest.
Oh, Southern Beale, I had forgotten how badly Colin Powell served Clinton! Even to the point of not supplying materiel requested by the SecDef for our troops in Somalia.
Colin Powell severely undermined the Clinton presidency--another thing to damn to hell for doing. Enabling Dear Leader should keep him there for eternity (at least metaphorically).
Oh no. I think I've killed this thread. Sorry guys.
Apparently, it didn't bother him at all that a Democrat was listening in as he kept trashing McCain.
I would be willing to bet that for Santorum, the important thing was that a Democrat knew he was listening to Rick Santorum.
Or maybe he's just one of those people who has rather private conversations on the cell phone as loudly as possible so that they themselves will know they still exist...
Coincidence that Miss Malkin is talking the talk advocated by Santorum, according to that thread about George Soros strikes again. See below.
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