HULK SMASH!!!
This post is just crying out for some video.
what?
i foresee a dystopian future where there will be ghettoes of mcmansions, all boarded up, with feral wasp children roaming in gangs.
Huckabee.
The housing market sucks, unfortunately that is the largest investment most American's make.
The dream is always the same...
They can have my cardboard box.
Finance ministers and central bankers from the Group of Seven leading economies have said the threat to world markets by the decline in the US housing market remains.
The meeting in Tokyo is hoping to reassure jittery markets and wants China to bolster world economic growth by importing more goods and exporting less.
The G7 business leaders also called on banks to declare any losses they might have from giving loans to clients with poor credit history.
Or else?
wow the stones look amazingly young in that video.
I sure feel sorry for millionaires.
Leasing to contractors with illegal immigrants will help pay the mortgage off.
Finally, the sun.
This post is just crying out for some video.
ABBA's Money, Money, Money?
wow the stones look amazingly young in that video.
pretzelattack
Not snorting your dad works wonders on your complexion.
I already lost a house under the Bush administration, it would suck to lose another one under McCain, fuck it, I'm putting all my money into an underground bomb shelter...
Oy.
Earlier today, Huckabee disputed the assertion that McCain had locked up the GOP nomination and said he won't quit the presidential race.
"I didn't major in math," Huckabee told a cheering crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference meeting, according to the AP. "I majored in miracles."
Emetic, no?
Not snorting your dad works wonders on your complexion.
geor3ge | 02.09.08 - 2:30 pm | #
did he really do that? never mind, i dont want to know.
You want to be the banker, if you're going to play Monopoly.
I'm putting all my money into an underground bomb shelter...
krsaz
hereabouts, we call that the stormdrain.
Feb. 8 (Bloomberg) -- A congressional plan to let Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac insure larger mortgages may not be enough to reverse the U.S. housing market slide, said Nishu Sood, a homebuilding analyst with Deutsche Bank Securities.
Congress yesterday passed a $168 billion economic stimulus package to head off a recession. The bill will allow Fannie and Freddie to raise the limit on purchasing "jumbo'' loans to $729,750 from $417,000. Mortgages will be eligible if they were granted between July 2007 and Dec. 31, 2008.
"The headlines are more exciting than the potential for real impact,'' Sood wrote in a research note yesterday. ``Not only do the proposals have limited reach and a short timeframe, but also qualification standards could limit the number of buyers that could benefit.''
Look out below, Jumbo!
Update 3 — The price is down to $1,499,000 and still no takers. Total loss stands at $341,940 after commissions.
After commissions. So someone is still making money, but it's not the buyer or seller.
wow the stones look amazingly young in that video.
pretzelattack
Got no audio here at work, but it's mesmerizing just to watch.
After commissions. So someone is still making money, but it's not the buyer or seller.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
Just like the stock exchange. The brokers make money either way.
/allright, back from the brisk walk, shower time.
The /supremes aren't going to protect your rights if you don't have a buncha million + homes, sorry.
at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com
i foresee a dystopian future where there will be ghettoes of mcmansions, all boarded up, with feral wasp children roaming in gangs.
pretzelattack
Read Olivia Butler, Parable of the Sower. She thought about all these conservative initiatives and followed them out to their logical conclusions. A dystopian future where there will be ghettoes of mcmansions, all boarded up, with feral wasp children roaming in gangs.
I sure feel sorry for millionaires.
NTodd, Fästing Führer
My empathy for Donald Trump is endless.
Gimme Shelter
The Kenosha Kid
Just seeing the title in that post caused me to fire up the ol' iTunes
McCain, fuck it, I'm putting all my money into an underground bomb shelter...
krsaz
There are a bunch of survivalists in Southern Oregon, who have decided it would be the safest area in attacks on the W. coast. Midway between SF and Seattle.
I sure feel sorry for millionaires.
NTodd, Fästing Führer
Think about how their neighbors will ridicule them for having to sell one of their Bentleys.
"Congress yesterday passed a $168 billion economic stimulus package to head off a recession."
How about we end the fucking war and bring our soldiers home.
Not only will we benefit from not spending billions of dollars in a country that fucking hates us, but we can actually use the national guard for something like guarding the nation.
Economic problem and immigration problem solved by ending Bush's war.
Read Olivia Butler, Parable of the Sower. She thought about all these conservative initiatives and followed them out to their logical conclusions. A dystopian future where there will be ghettoes of mcmansions, all boarded up, with feral wasp children roaming in gangs.
qlª | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:34 pm | #
heh, ill google it. i was thinking of a clockwork orange.
This post is just crying out for some video.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:24 pm | #
You're a man of wealth and taste!
There are a bunch of survivalists in Southern Oregon, who have decided it would be the safest area in attacks on the W. coast. Midway between SF and Seattle.
Because there's nothing there. Mountainous terrain that's not easy to manuver in, with marginal economic activity.
How about we end the fucking war and bring our soldiers home.
No, that would free up a trillion. We only need 168 billion right now.
"Because there's nothing there. Mountainous terrain that's not easy to manuver in, with marginal economic activity."
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 02.09.08 - 2:36 pm | #
Sounds a lot like where Bin Laden has been hanging out.
Pohl and Kornbluth's 'Gladiator At Law' cited ghettoes in suburbia gone straight to hell back in the early 1960s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3...h?
v=3wmcxqsO8rY
Experts say rebates could stave off long recession!!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080..._will_they_work
YEAH BABY!!!!
Throw crumbs at the monkey and watch them dance. An AP poll says 45% of people polled said they would pay bills with it, and 32% said they would invest it, while only 19% said they would spend it on crap. The "experts" are counting on the people saying one thing and doing another. History, it seems, backs up that assumption.
I'm planning to put it in the bank to pay it back to the government next year when it will come due in my taxes. I don't get a refund. I end up owing, so I will owe $1200 plus what I owe normally. Fun, fun.
Speaking of the Yardbirds - on one of my vinyl compilations from the band there's an acoustic version of Heart Full of Soul recorded at Sun in Memphis. The hook was played on sitar. The band meant to realease this version as a single, but the sitar kept fading on the record due to the inability of the equipment at the time to record it properly.
Sounds pretty good, though.
"I didn't major in math," Huckabee told a cheering crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference meeting, according to the AP. "I majored in miracles."
This country being America,
It wouldn't take a miracle
To choose someone who doesn't know
The planet Earth is spherical.
Pohl and Kornbluth's 'Gladiator At Law' cited ghettoes in suburbia gone straight to hell back in the early 1960s.
ProfWombat | 02.09.08 - 2:39 pm | #
i think i read that, but i dont remember it now. also, the idea seems like something philip k dick might have written about.
This post is just crying out for some video.
The market for McMansions is Way Down Now.
Think about how their neighbors will ridicule them for having to sell one of their Bentleys
"Ohmigod. We had to rent an apartment that only had . . . Kenmore . . . appliances!"
"I didn't major in math," Huckabee told a cheering crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference meeting, according to the AP. "I majored in miracles."
With a minor in dip-shittery, apparently.
Assrocket
I suspect that many global warming alarmists are well aware that time is running out for them. If nothing is done and global temperatures decline in coming years--as they inevitably will, the only question is when--the alarmists will have been refuted.
"I didn't major in math," Huckabee told a cheering crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference meeting, according to the AP. "I majored in miracles."
In a sane world, that would be "Okay...next?"
How about we end the fucking war and bring our soldiers home.
"Not on our watch!"
----Pelosi and Reid
huh?
I suspect that many global warming alarmists are well aware that time is running out for them. If nothing is done and global temperatures decline in coming years--as they inevitably will, the only question is when--the alarmists will have been refuted.
Here's a shovel, assrocket. dig a deeper hole in the sand to stick your head in.
Okay kids, getting ready to head back into Gomorrah on the Hudson for my traditional Saturday evening of quaffing elitist chardonnay blah blah blah.
With luck, I will be talking to you fine folks again later this evening...
I suspect that many global warming alarmists are well aware that time is running out for them. If nothing is done and global temperatures decline in coming years--as they inevitably will, the only question is when--the alarmists will have been refuted.
My name is Assrocket, and I have my head firmly lodged up my ass.
huckabee doesnt seem like a "sexy thing" though.
"I didn't major in math," Huckabee told a cheering crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference meeting, according to the AP. "I majored in miracles."
Sounds to me like someone's praying for McCain to drop dead...
Speaking of the Yardbirds - on one of my vinyl compilations from the band there's an acoustic version of Heart Full of Soul recorded at Sun in Memphis. The hook was played on sitar. The band meant to realease this version as a single, but the sitar kept fading on the record due to the inability of the equipment at the time to record it properly.
billy ya gotta check these guys out. they have an online show tonight at 10pm eastern.
http://lostdiscsradioshow.tripod.com/
How about we end the fucking war and bring our soldiers home.
No, that would free up a trillion. We only need 168 billion right now.
MP | 02.09.08 - 2:37 pm | #
I'm serious though, we have spent a trillion + in Iraq, for what? Gas prices are at their highest ever, soldiers are dying, what benefit has this country gotten out of this war.
Not One Goddamn Thing.
We have fucked up our own economy, and placed our servicemen and women in harms way for no good reason.
If we end the war, end the mindless economic money pit, bring out soldiers home and set them to guarding the ports and the borders, how is this a bad thing?
Fuck George Bush.
anyone else reading Matt Taibbi's article on chickenshit dems failing to stop the war?
http://www.rollingstone.com/
poli...e_chicken_doves
If nothing is done and global temperatures decline in coming years--as they inevitably will, the only question is when--the alarmists will have been refuted.
P O'Neill
Sort of the reverse of the Invade Iraq argument: If it turns out there ARE wmd and we don't invade, you'll be sorrrrreeeeee!
Of course, that's just completely fucked up one region of the world, instead of the whole shebang.
These people are such fucking self-involved idiots it's pathetic.
If nothing is done and global temperatures decline in coming years--as they inevitably will, the only question is when--the alarmists will have been refuted.
Triumph of the Will, baby! All the wingers have to do is wish hard enough and their dreams will come true.
hmm, just thought of a scenario where mccain wins the nomination, drops dead before the general--does his vp automatically become the nominee?
"I didn't major in math," Huckabee told a cheering crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference meeting, according to the AP. "I majored in miracles."
Well, we're gonna need a miracle to get the FUCK out of this economic mess, you ignorant cock.
id like to see most of our bases around the world and bring all those soldiers home too. pipe dreams, probably, but this whole american empire bit is not in our long term self interest.
Triumph of the Will, baby! All the wingers have to do is wish hard enough and their dreams will come true.
Assrocket: "Clap louder, you ingrates!"
"Ohmigod. We had to rent an apartment that only had . . . Kenmore . . . appliances!"
"So I marched down to the landlord's place and demanded he replace the appliances with Sub-Zero.
"I mean, really."
The wireless mouse came. The USB mouse is limping but not dead. The Mac "found" the wireless mouse, but could not "pair" with it. Fuck it, a drink sounds better.
So let's say, for the sake of argument, that there's no such thing as anthropogenic global warming, despite solidifying and overwhelming consensus from the climate science community.
Can a reason or two to move away from fossil fuels still be thought of? I know it's farfatched. After all, fossil fuels have been an unmitigated blessing socially, politically, geostrategically, and environmentally. And with China, India and other countries demanding more of 'em by the year, well, it's really, really hard to think of a single reason why we might not want to be so dependent on fossil fuels.
After all, there's always the tar sands in Alberta to exploit.
anyone else reading Matt Taibbi's article on chickenshit dems failing to stop the war?
I just did.
Quite enlightening.
I hate those motherfuckers almost as much as I despise republics.
"Over half of all American Homes have a Kenmore appliance" - don't left Muffy and Paris make you feel bad.
If nothing is done and global temperatures decline in coming years--as they inevitably will, the only question is when--the alarmists will have been refuted.
I love when people that have no fucking clue about thermodynamics lecture the rest of us on the subject.
If we end the war, end the mindless economic money pit, bring out soldiers home and set them to guarding the ports and the borders, how is this a bad thing?
Fuck George Bush.
krsaz
You're absolutely right man.
But the problem is going to be whether or not Clinton or Obama will have the political balls to end it, or will they cave in to the pressure from the fascists who will undoubtedly immediately begin the "They Lost Iraq!" propaganda campaign...
Well, we're gonna need a miracle to get the FUCK out of this economic mess, you ignorant cock.
So you will be voting for Huck in November? I mean, after having the lobotomy?
Pohl and Kornbluth's 'Gladiator At Law' cited ghettoes in suburbia gone straight to hell back in the early 1960s.
ProfWombat | 02.09.08 - 2:39 pm | #
Great book.
But even better is their "The Space Merchants" from the late 50s.
In the near future, Senators and Congressmen aren't elected from the states, but from corporations. So there's the Senator from ATT, the freshman congressman from Xerox, etc.
Needless to say, corporations can do pretty much what they want. For example, the secret ingredient in a certain instant coffee or something is heroin. Helps foster brand loyalty.
Basically, they predicted the country we live in at the moment. Amazing...
One thing that bothers me about this and other episodes of sellers is:
The selling price.
I know they want to get everything and more back out of it. Here is the major issue:
HOME VALUES are in the TOILET!
If you cannot see yourself selling at that exaggerated price then rent. Rent for whatever you can get is better than nothing.
They're starting the FEAR and TERRA thing right now, to stir up *lust* for McCain. No need to wait.
Fuck George Bush.
krsaz
Ain't a Republican candidate this season tried to glom on to that "Bush Magic".
Y'know, a day may come, someday, when lions lie down with lambs, the just triumph and the evil vanquished, and it becomes an unreserved positive, rather than a point of opportunity for political attack, to be intelligent and well educated, even to the extent of knowing mathematics.
After all, there's always the tar sands in Alberta to exploit.
ProfWombat
Prof, I've got some ideas on that if you're going to be here later tonight?
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:24 pm | #
dude, if your'e still there, is that really you in the pic?
some wingnut was arguing that the consensus on anthropegenic global warming was unraveling, cited as evidence that an article was accepted
by a magazine produced by the british meteorological society. one of the authors is fred singer, who also believes that secondhand smoke is not dangerous, so i give it little credit,
but he was saying that being accepted in an actual peer reviewed science journal automatically gave it credibility. i didnt know enough about the process to answer him.
billy ya gotta check these guys out. they have an online show tonight at 10pm eastern.
Thanks. Site's bookmarked.
Elias, have you met Moe Syzslack?
And with China, India and other countries demanding more of 'em by the year, well, it's really, really hard to think of a single reason why we might not want to be so dependent on fossil fuels.
I'm afraid, Prof Wombat, you're going to need to use more baby-talk to communicate with the likes of Assrocket.
steve: another vote for 'The Space Merchants', which, while the more trenchant satire, wasn't, for my 12 yo self, as much fun to read as a ripping yarn...
I swear, if a person read this blog alone they would have a fairly distorted view of the real world.
http://www.rollingstone.com/
poli...e_chicken_doves
Matt Taibbi goes after Reid and the other spineless Dems. No quotes--my DSL is so slow I may go back to dialup--tough to take after decent speed.
Elias: out to dinner tonight, but I'm around a lot; happy to hear what you have to say.
Elias, have you met Moe Syzslack?
plantsman,
Noh!
In the near future, Senators and Congressmen aren't elected from the states, but from corporations. So there's the Senator from ATT, the freshman congressman from Xerox, etc.
Needless to say, corporations can do pretty much what they want. For example, the secret ingredient in a certain instant coffee or something is heroin. Helps foster brand loyalty.
Basically, they predicted the country we live in at the moment. Amazing...
steve simels | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:49 pm | #
LOL. i like that, the senator from at&t. incidentally, i always heard that coca cola used to have small amounts of cocaine. the real thing.
That is a good looking house and I do have some spare change in my pocket. A couple more updates and it could be mine.
steve simels
Did you see the above post on the Yardbird's Heart Full of Soul?
500k + DOWN on a house????
i hear the world's tiniest violin...
if you are in Washington state and want to know where your democratic caucus will be go here.
http://www.wa-democrats.org/index.php
Saw this comment on another (non blog, non political) comment board:
With a laissez-faire approach, we could end these recessions once and for all.
My only comment on this particular assertion was "The stupid, it burns!"
I really don't think the stock market has hit bottom yet, by a long shot. The gatgantuan credit loss takes a while to play out, despite the Fed's desperate and late attempts to stave it off.
Fuck, a coupla trillion dollars in real estate wealth just vanished.
You can't sweep that kind of shit under the carpet while nobody's looking.
.
ProfWombat, you too man. It's a great question you posed.
So you will be voting for Huck in November? I mean, after having the lobotomy?
Right after I find a husband so I can sign that Oath of Submission that he made his wife sign.
Saw report that said the tar sands release 3 barrels of oil for every 2 barrels of energy used to produce it. Net gain, 1 barrel of oil.
IIRC, the easy fields in Saudi Arabia used to produce 100 barrels for every one barrel of energy needed to produce it.
Wow.
Prof, just need more time
steve simels
Did you see the above post on the Yardbird's Heart Full of Soul?
billy b | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:53 pm | #
I did indeed.
I've actually heard that version...quite cool.
http://www.wa-democrats.org/index.php
pigboy | 02.09.08 - 2:53 pm | #
Thanks, pigboy. They only have another hour to show up!
Thanks, pigboy. They only have another hour to show up!
Jake in Milwaukee | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:56 pm | #
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very true. just have time for a quick half hour nap.
GWPDA, I was informed by Erin that you helped me over a very rough spot I had not anticipated. If so, many thanks.
plantsman
GWPDA is always doin' stuff like that. Gets my vote for the most generous person on the Web.
My uncle Harry would have been in the Great War, but died in Fort Smith, Arkansas in 1918 during the flu pandemic. My grandmother went to nurse him and she died too. (My grandfather, no kidding, was born during the Civil War; my mom was 6 when her mom died.)
LOL. i like that, the senator from at&t. incidentally, i always heard that coca cola used to have small amounts of cocaine. the real thing.
Back around the turn of the 20th Century, this was true. Cocaine was an ingredient in many patent medicines.
Cocaine was removed from the formula of Coca-Cola in 1903.
After Christmas shoppers using their Walmart gift cards to buy groceries and necessities.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23046118/
But that rebate is sure going to help. We will all be buying lots of craps to stimulate the economy.
how nice of H&R Block to offer people credit cards charged with the amount of their tax refunds.
There were all kinds of things in the pharmacopeia. There was, for instance, elixir of terpin hydrate and codeine for cough. Highly alcoholic, plus the codeine. Was over the counter.
I'm trying to remember the convention rules. It used to be that delegates were bound only for the first ballot. I don't know if that has changed. Does anybody know for sure?
The Call for the 2008 Democratic National Convention says:
VIII C(7)(c) Delegates may vote for the candidate of their choice whether or not the name of such candidate was placed in nomination.
And the Delegate Selection Rules say:
12 I: No delegate at any level of the delegate selection process shall be mandated by law or Party rule to vote contrary to that person’s presidential choice as expressed at the time the delegate is elected.
12 J. Delegates elected to the national convention pledged to a presidential candidate shall in all good conscience reflect the sentiments of those who elected them.
All of which reads as though delegates aren't bound even on the first ballot?
Leaving in half an hour to go be caucasian. No wait, I can do that here. Be a caucuser.
Right after I find a husband so I can sign that Oath of Submission that he made his wife sign. -watertiger, kodos4prez
I, I ... I am your density [extends trembling hand]
I did indeed.
I've actually heard that version...quite cool.
steve simels
Steve, check out these guys too tonight 10pm. They have an after hours show that is hilarious. They all get drunk and play the coolest rare tracks. You can email them during the show too and they read them...it's pretty cool.
http://lostdiscsradioshow.tripod.com/
souns like the nebraska caucus is a total clusterfuck.
there is something genetic in democrats that makes them simply unable to oraganize anything to run smoothly.
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u...&
u_sid=10254218
Tell me Michael McKean in Spinal Tap didn't look a lot like Keith Relf '66.
Right after I find a husband so I can sign that Oath of Submission that he made his wife sign.
[slides paper over tigre's desk]
"how nice of H&R Block to offer people credit cards charged with the amount of their tax refunds.
watertiger, kodos4prez |"
LOL! 
really nice, yep.
my DSL is so slow I may go back to dialup--tough to take after decent speed.
jawbone | 02.09.08 - 2:53 pm | #
Happens to me sometimes. Did you try a power reset on your modem and router?
very true. just have time for a quick half hour nap.
pigboy | 02.09.08 - 2:57 pm | #
Was just in Olympia last week. Friend I was staying with got her mail-in ballot in the mail, filled it out and mailed it. It wasn't until a few days ago that we both read about the caucus thing, and that the Dems select their delegates entirely with that. The mail ballot is worthless for the Dems! Now, a lot of people, I'm sure, understand this goofy system. But she went to her school, and work, and told people about this, and she was surprised how many people didn't know about the caucus thing. Wonder what effect this will have on the turnout.
there were other helpers
soprano, ql, vicki, Harry D. Echydne
hopefully okay if i mention them
mwah
Texas has a primary plus caucus so there is twice as much to fuck up - and it has never counted before so ...
I, I ... I am your density [extends trembling hand]
how nice of H&R Block to offer people credit cards charged with the amount of their tax refunds.
Corporatism, it doesn't just enable Mussolini any more!
[slides paper over tigre's desk]
I'm not signing anything without a big, honking BLOOD DIAMOND, bitch!
I'm not signing anything without a big, honking BLOOD DIAMOND, bitch!
[looks at Princess' tiara, sighs, cashes out rest of 401k]
Y'know, a day may come, someday, when lions lie down with lambs, the just triumph and the evil vanquished, and it becomes an unreserved positive, rather than a point of opportunity for political attack, to be intelligent and well educated, even to the extent of knowing mathematics.
ProfWombat
You, sir, must be joking.
The Powers That Be want all the little people to remain untutored and ignorant. And that is why the public schools will be kept poor, why teachers will not be paid a living wage, why education will be painted as effeminate, etc etc etc.
DWD and me are subversive, and proud of it (he more than I, as I teach in a private school.)
Steve, check out these guys too tonight 10pm. They have an after hours show that is hilarious. They all get drunk and play the coolest rare tracks. You can email them during the show too and they read them...it's pretty cool.
http://lostdiscsradioshow.tripod.com/
Elias - It's all about meme | 02.09.08 - 2:59 pm | #
Thanks! I will indeed!!!
And now I'm outta here. Have fun in my absence...
how nice of H&R Block to offer people credit cards charged with the amount of their tax refunds.
watertiger, kodos4prez | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:58 pm | #
I don't know why people go to H&R Block. The IRS has VITA centers set up all over the country. I've volunteered for them before, preparing tax returns for free for those with less than $40k in income. I recommend the VITA to anyone.
McKean's early days character could have been an amalgam of Keith Relf and the Stones' Brian Jones.
I've actually heard that version...quite cool.
I thought so, also. I've got to get one of those usb turntables and concert a lot of that stuff to digital.
The same record has the "Stroll on" thing from Blow Up.
[looks at Princess' tiara, sighs, cashes out rest of 401k]
Because you know I'm all about the baubles. It defines my self-worth.
Amazing isn't it? Really, how many other ways are corporations allowed to screw people out of their own money without oversight.
What's the Latin term?
Buyer beware.
Takers on the loose.
caveat sucker. ok emptor.
caveat assfuck.
Because you know I'm all about the baubles. It defines my self-worth.
watertiger, kodos4prez
You couldn't be a proper lady otherwise.
I truly want to thank everyone for their love and endless support.
Mlle has been admitted. Former husband's insurance and ours is paying. I made her call him herself. She wanted me to do it. I said, from now on, you're on your own. No one can do your recovery for you. If and when you want to talk with me when you're clean and sober, I'll be here.
She has to want this for herself. Mom can no longer pick up the pieces, which I've done in the past. I won't be her punching bag, and she can stop blaming her father and I for destroying her life.
Monsieur and I are taking Maddy to the Huntington Children's Garden today. I'm looking forward to that.
with this fisa thing, it looks like there is more than one senator from at&t.
Thanks. That's it. The caveat emptor.
im glad the insurance came through sallyh.
DWD and me are subversive, and proud of it (he more than I, as I teach in a private school.)
I do my best to be subversive. I try to teach my students to think
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 02.09.08 - 3:05 pm | #
Good luck. This is one of the few times where tough love really is the only way. And, when she's better, she'll love you both all the more.
Enjoy the gardens and your granddaughter, sallyh.
Warm wishes for the return of peace to your family.
Because you know I'm all about the baubles. It defines my self-worth.
watertiger, kodos4prez
I'm holding out for the 3 stone anniversary band this July on our 25th
how nice of H&R Block to offer people credit cards charged with the amount of their tax refunds.
watertiger, kodos4prez
HRB, and their biggest in-store competitor, Liberty Tax, lend out refund advance money loans at a 102% annual rate.
And they make damned sure that the franchise store is within a block of a payroll advance outfit, or a pawn shop.
Real nice.
The Huntington Garden is awesome! (and the home of "Artemisia Huntington) DO enjoy it -- you need some peace.
Jake, thank you. And again, I'm sorry I was such a bitch the other night.
Sallyh, that is good news. Keep up the tough love. It's the only way.
They will never learn to take care of themselves if you don't!
HRB, and their biggest in-store competitor, Liberty Tax, lend out refund advance money loans at a 102% annual rate.
And they make damned sure that the franchise store is within a block of a payroll advance outfit, or a pawn shop.
Real nice.
MP | 02.09.08 - 3:08 pm | #
Some movements among states to have these outfits classified as "payday loan" companies, thus bringing them under a larger umbrella. Hope it happens.
caveat emptor
I was thinking cave canem, which is "Beware of the Dog."
Close enough.
So "Gay Atheist Socialists for McCain".
If there is some way to work "abortion" into the name, that would be good.
Dear Fellow McCain supporter and socialist:
The future of mandatory gay marriage and abortion is here - thanks to Comrade McCain's candidacy. We really suckered the Republicans this time! When Al Gore and Ted Kennedy marry McCain after the inauguration, duped conservatives will be howling, but TOO LATE!
Because you know I'm all about the baubles. It defines my self-worth.
I've heard that about you.
[begins to fondle baubles]
I was thinking cave canem, which is "Beware of the Dog."
which brings us back to rick santorum.
For the people of Maine and for the people of America!!
BEEEEEEEEYAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
I've heard that about you.
[begins to fondle baubles]
NTodd, Fästing Führer
I was also shocked to learn she is a Deadhead.
Jake, thank you. And again, I'm sorry I was such a bitch the other night.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 02.09.08 - 3:08 pm | #
Ah, shit, don't worry about it. My mom died a couple months ago and I didn't know who to lash out at more. Hopefully, now you can breathe a little and enjoy a cuppa coffee.
NTodd, I don't think La Tigre is talking about your testicles
Unaborted Gay Atheist Socialists for McCain...
....Let us not forget Poundcake of Lemonosity!
Maybe that applies only to superdelegates, though.
"Close enough.
Willendorf Venus"
Nah, you were right. It's really the same. Close really is on the spot there.
Plantsman, Maddy and I will bake one later. Just for you.
And the Daleks. I'm sorry, but it's the only way I escaped extermination
how about Tortured POW's for Truth?
naw that would be nasty. and wrong, it would be wrong.
The Taibbi article is great but it stops too soon. What are we supposed to do? Vote Republican?
I've heard that about you.
[begins to fondle baubles]
Oh, DUDE!
Octavia Butler's The Parable of the Sower really does talk about these issues.
ql, important to remember: Taibbi, while an excellent reporter, is a complete cynic.
Has ql been subsumed by the Scrabulous Robot??
Octavia Butler's The Parable of the Sower really does talk about these issues.
Echidne | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 3:13 pm | #
ql recommended that too.
ql recommended that too.
She has excellent taste as we know.
Headline from today's David Brooks offering in the local fishwrap:
"Look at it this way: Hillary is Safeway, Obama is Whole Foods."
Headline from today's David Brooks offering in the local fishwrap:
"Look at it this way: Hillary is Safeway, Obama is Whole Foods."
And McCain is Chinese mercury wontons.
souns like the nebraska caucus is a total clusterfuck.
there is something genetic in democrats that makes them simply unable to oraganize anything to run smoothly.
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u...& u_sid=10254218
nero socrates
The caucus system - except for its arcane quaintness in Iowa - should be done away with entirely.
Democracies require that the WHOLE public be given ample opportunity to participate. Getting stuck in traffic only enforces beliefs that the system is designed to limit participation.
Primary voting, bitches.
So, I made the "Roasted Red Pepper Hummus" from the Diabetes Forecast magazine. It's in the fridge "mingling" now, but all signs point to TASTY!
hey sallyh: that's good news, or, at least, as good as news gets on that front, and if I hear you beating yourself up for a lack of omnipotence, omniscience or infinite patience in dealing with this, well, I may have to transcend the bounds of politesse...
Who cares who is what grocery store! The question is, who is going to uphold the constitution & who is going to make up his own rules.
NTodd, I don't think La Tigre is talking about your testicles
Shit.
ProfWombat, nah, I gave that up for Lent
The Taibbi article is great but it stops too soon. What are we supposed to do? Vote Republican?
qlª | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 3:12 pm | #
You people are behind the curve. Kucinich supporters knew months ago that Obama and Clinton were sellout centrist vendors of pablum. We've had months to wail, scream, sorrow, and bitterly consider the horrible canadian winters adjust our "lesser of two evils goggles". Now we are into the acceptance stage, used to it and are completely comfortable supporting either one of those two. Don't fight it.
Echidne!
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
Wonton!
Mercury!
Haaaaaaaaaaa!
i guess huckabee could be the kwik mart.
WA folks, if you're still here, is it accurate that WA has an actual primary, with voting spread out all day, but that they decided to move up WA's date by using a caucus?
Which, of course, if you work, you miss. Way cool, that idea!
But the vote will go on and not be used to determine delegate alotment?
And the Dems came up with this idea?
NTodd, I don't think La Tigre is talking about your testicles
I'd put money on that.
I just wanted to point out that Atrios won't get the full taste of being an Iowan, because he won't have the internet bemoaning that the entire country is beholden to his undemocratic caprice.
anyone else reading Matt Taibbi's article on chickenshit dems failing to stop the war?
Yes, and blogging about it. Been too busy fending off Scrabulous incursions to finish.
Okay, I can go all tweety on Brooks. Better tolaugh at Echidne or I might say something that was intended [NOT]!
Saw that Brooks column. He nakedly and unashamedly turned selecting a president into a marketing exercise. Not a twinge of regret, even were it so. In fact, he was rather self-congratulatory, coming up with such a clever way of framing things.
NTodd, I don't think La Tigre is talking about your testicles
I'd put money on that.
What, on my testicles? Whatever floats your boat, man.
Was just in Olympia last week. Friend I was staying with got her mail-in ballot in the mail, filled it out and mailed it. It wasn't until a few days ago that we both read about the caucus thing, and that the Dems select their delegates entirely with that. The mail ballot is worthless for the Dems! Now, a lot of people, I'm sure, understand this goofy system. But she went to her school, and work, and told people about this, and she was surprised how many people didn't know about the caucus thing. Wonder what effect this will have on the turnout.
Jake in Milwaukee | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:59 pm | #
This goes against everything Democrats supposedly stand for. Disenfranchising so many voters and taxation without representation.
I'm not signing anything without a big, honking BLOOD DIAMOND, bitch!
How about a plastic ring out of a gumball machine?
OK, watertiger mentioned fondling baubles, so I have to brb.
Sorry. When she posts them, they are trigger words for me.
On Timmeh, Bobo air-kissed McCain's rump, just so you know.
Are Clinton and Obama going to turn up at the EschaCon?
bad link, woot...
sallyh-
So glad there is some resolution. Best to your family. Also, the Huntington is one beautiful place.
WA folks, if you're still here, is it accurate that WA has an actual primary, with voting spread out all day, but that they decided to move up WA's date by using a caucus?
Which, of course, if you work, you miss. Way cool, that idea!
But the vote will go on and not be used to determine delegate alotment?
And the Dems came up with this idea?
jawbone | 02.09.08 - 3:18 pm | #
This is a really fucked up system they have up there.
The WA legislature voted to have a mail-in ballot system. This was despite the rules that the GOP and the Dems came up with, who always have a caucus system. For the GOP, 49% of the delegates selection comes from the primary, and 51% of the selection comes from the caucus. For the Dems, *zero* delegates are selected via the ballot system-- everyone who voted on the paper ballot will have to show up at a caucus to have their votes counted.
The only reason I can think of, for having a mail-in ballot, is to address referendums. My buddy answered a property tax referendum question on the mail-in ballot, something that isn't addressed through the caucuses. That said, it's really, really fucked up.
Link ATRIOS'D, w00t.
On Timmeh, Bobo air-kissed McCain's rump, just so you know.
Well, of course. McStain plys these cretins with free booze, tiger shrimp, and all the cocktail weenies they can stuff into their pieholes.
Of course they love McStain.
I hope the superdelegates cause a bloodbath at the dhimmicrats' convention.
I smell treachery.
Plantsman.
I found out in Nov. that I am diabetic (my vision was all blurry). I am on 2 drugs & a diet & have lost 32 lbs. & my glucose #s are cool & would like to hear from you.
How about a plastic ring out of a gumball machine?
Hands off my cockring.
OK, watertiger mentioned fondling baubles, so I have to brb.
No, NTODD mentioned fondling.
I am too ladylike to mention ball juggling.
Echidne, what I particularly remember is the gangs of kids in control of all the stores with all the electronic equipment, unable to use any of it because they couldn't read the fucking manuals. I think we can see this already. How many people are math illiterate. I've worked with people who couldn't read a six digit number.
I smell treachery.
Toby Petzold
I smell a troll
I smell treachery.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 3:22 pm | #
I smell a barnyard.
Huckabee, when he wasn't tossing bloody chunks of raw meat at CPAC, talked about "equality" -- but clearly queers don't qualify.
I am too ladylike to mention ball juggling.
watertiger
I've always loved playing with balls.
simels! come back!
Jake in Milwaukee | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:59 pm ~~~~
Just saw your post about the wild and crazy WA state delegate selection mess. Sheesh. What were they thinking???
Hands off my cockring.
Good name for a band.
i guess huckabee could be the kwik mart.
pretzelattack |
Cracker Barrel.
(Let the "help" do the cooking.)
I am too ladylike to mention ball juggling.
How about cat juggling?
Sometime soon they'll come up with a plan to help the banks - but not those feckless homeowners who accepted loans after talking to bank officers.
Typical lame-assed nonsense.
Obama's people are gonna really hate having to support her after HRC sticks a knife in dey back.
If people are spending their walmart christmas gift cards on groceries, what do you imagine they will spend the government Prebates on in May? Babies still need to eat. And what will they do NEXT February when the Government takes that money out of their refunds, or next April when they will have to pay it back to the government with whatever else they owe?
Echidne, what I particularly remember is the gangs of kids in control of all the stores with all the electronic equipment, unable to use any of it because they couldn't read the fucking manuals. I think we can see this already. How many people are math illiterate. I've worked with people who couldn't read a six digit number.
Yes, and the whole thing of gated communities consisting of three types: the rich communities, the corporation work-camps and the few, like the one in the book, organized by local residents until they are invaded and killed.
Willendorf Venus, my vision was all messed up at diagnosis, too. Lemme check my "Homepage" and see if my email is there.
The Writers' Strike has become emblematic of this shithole Chimpy US economy.
The fucks who don't do shit are finally being called out for taking 97% of the pie.
Are Clinton and Obama going to turn up at the EschaCon?
Echidne |
CSPAN 8 is.
People always mention "childcare issues" when criticizing caucuses, but I saw a lot of kids at my caucus. Didn't seem to be an issue.
The "can't get out of work" issue is valid, though.
Just saw your post about the wild and crazy WA state delegate selection mess. Sheesh. What were they thinking???
jawbone | 02.09.08 - 3:24 pm | #
Total nightmare. People out their don't all know about this. There's been a considerable get-out-word movement, particularly in the Olympia area, because a lot of people who live their don't watch TV or read local news because of poor reception and a shitty newspaper. Was just on the phone with my friend there, I asked if she saw any canvassers... she said no, but that a friend of hers told her to get their early because it was expected to be busy at the caucus sites. Hope that's the case.
ive been lucky so far not to develop diabetes, my mother has it and there has been some in the family.
WV, it is. Write me from there and I'd be glad to converse.
" I asked if she saw any canvassers... she said no, but that a friend of hers told her to get their early because it was expected to be busy at the caucus sites. Hope that's the case.
Jake in Milwaukee "
ME TOO! I love seeing all these states turn BLUE!
What shocked me were the Persian Gulf Emirates, a couple of which have huge rates of diabetes. And India, but only because I did not think of the diet.
ME TOO! I love seeing all these states turn BLUE!
PeasantParty | 02.09.08 - 3:29 pm | #
Me too. I'm curious how the results of the mail-in ballot compare with the caucuses, with both turnout and the choice picked.
Atrios's trolls seem to be antibodies for Candidate X inanity.
"The fucks who don't do shit are finally being called out for taking 97% of the pie.
MP "
Ain't that the truth! Even though the company stock prices and values are in the crapper, CEO's walk away with millions. You really do wonder when or if they will ever be caught up with.
Toby's been checking in regularly over the last 24 hours -- but he has nothing new to say.
simels! come back!
Any kind of fool could see I was wrong, and I just can't live without you.
I want the theme of the next Presidency to be "Fuck the Shareholders".
A company in this country will thrive or shrivel on its own merits. Invest accordingly.
We've gotten to a point where we babysit these speculators. Fuck all that. They'll make money, if the company is worth two shits. They'll make a lot.
But this attitude that the shareholders have to come first no matter what, is a horseshit way to run a Nation.
Huckabee wins Kansas caucus.
"Toby's been checking in regularly over the last 24 hours -- but he has nothing new to say.
plantsman,"
I've been at this place for over 2 years now and he never has anything different to say. I just ignore him.
Toby's been checking in regularly over the last 24 months -- but he never has anything new to say.
plantsman,
fueled your turbo.
I love seeing all these states turn BLUE!
I somehow keep missing the nightly news stories pointing out that astonishingly record turnouts for the Dems augur the demise of the GOP in November.
hes left us for an elite chardonnay. sobs.
Any kind of fool could see I was wrong, and I just can't live without you.
EARWORM!
Huckabee wins Kansas caucus.
jaap
Well, the Kansas school boards will now be rid of that offensive evolution nonsense for once and for all.
"But this attitude that the shareholders have to come first no matter what, is a horseshit way to run a Nation.
MP "
I think the shareholders SHOULD come first. The insiders last.
If it were not for the shareholders the company would not have that extra income. Shareholders/longterm are the ones getting shit on currently.
EARWORM!
Two men play Scrabble in the corner of a diner...
If it were not for the shareholders the company would not have that extra income. Shareholders/longterm are the ones getting shit on currently.
PeasantParty | 02.09.08 - 3:36 pm | #
What extra income?
Sallyh-- Sounds like this is 100% the best thing for your daughter. Our son is going through treatment, and it's been a dad and night difference since he made the committment to take responsibility for himself. You done good, Mom. Peace & love.
I think the shareholders SHOULD come first. The insiders last.
actually, the employees should come first, because without them, there is no product, and no profit to distribute to the shareholders.
but then again, I'm a socialist.
"I somehow keep missing the nightly news stories pointing out that astonishingly record turnouts for the Dems augur the demise of the GOP in November.
JeffCO |"
Ha! Well, you miss it because they don't tell it or show it.
But if you read the comments here, you will see me talk about it. Once a Day, everyday.
I think the shareholders SHOULD come first. The insiders last.
I would totally let them.
The Republicans will probably have an easier time coming up with a unity ticket than the Dems.
Two men play Scrabble in the corner of a diner...
thank you. I'd much rather be hooked on that.
Obama's people are gonna really hate having to support her after HRC sticks a knife in dey back.
Burn any dogs in front of Obama's house yet, pukkke-brained snotwhistle?
I'm a sentimental sap -- and I realize it, but I do love this "old school" video. Foreigner, "I Wanna Know What Love Is."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z...h?
v=z9OGfBGOCpk
If it were not for the shareholders the company would not have that extra income.
Not income. Capital in order to make income.
Ponzi already tried that "shareholder investment=income" scam 87 years ago.
but then again, I'm a socialist.
You probably think healthcare is some sort of right deriving from inherent human dignity or some shit.
watertiger's comment is right on the marx.
Two men play Scrabble in the corner of a diner...
wait, is this a twilight zone episode?where the counterman pulls off his hat and reveals....
Watertiger, yes the employees should come first. After all operating expenses and employee bonuses, then the shareholders. If I invest in company ABC, I want the return on my investment first before a CEO walks out the door with it.
It's thrilling to see people turning out to vote in such huge numbers. Maybe it's the Obama charisma, but I'd like to think this time the GOP is not going to be able to steal it. We've all had it. The numbers will be overwhelming.
but then again, I'm a socialist.
...and prettier than Elizabeth Gurley Flynn!
(wait...was she a socialist or an anarcho-syndicalist?)
Waterboarding is not torture if you use holy water.
(Still training to be a gossiping,hating,propagandizing,mind fucking right wing radio host)
thank you. I'd much rather be hooked on that.
[willfully suppressing urge to mention Mac Davis]
oooh, i win in a SQUEAKER!
The numbers will be overwhelming.
I bet McCain didn't realize that he was being thrown to the wolves back in 2004 when he was promised this was his year.
Yo, gangs be using da net to recruit...
Who'd you rather get gang-raped by?
RepuBloods?
or DemoCrips?
Don't matter...
We all gon' rape you anyway!
I want the return on my investment first before a CEO walks out the door with it.
Oh, we're in agreement on that.
So while the winger neighbors are thinking of staying home to protest mccain, the al gore lovin' obama supporters down the street are planning on voting for mccain if hillary gets the nomination - on the "too many years of bush/clinton" theory.
Well.
watertiger's comment is right on the marx.
Speak engels-ish, will ya?
Has anyone mentioned watertiger boarding?
/runs out of room
[willfully suppressing urge to mention Mac Davis]
[looks up JetBlue schedule]
I voted today, but this was weird: it wasn't a secret ballot. Or, rather, no one at the voting place knew how I voted, but I had to write my name and address on the ballot.
Damn. We were relatively free of the long term trolls for a while there. Oh well, it was too good to last very long...
It's thrilling to see people turning out to vote in such huge numbers. Maybe it's the Obama charisma, but I'd like to think this time the GOP is not going to be able to steal it. We've all had it. The numbers will be overwhelming.
noblejoanie | 02.09.08 - 3:42 pm | #
It seems that Obama and Clinton have two very different kinds of supporters. Obama's seem to be more actively involved with his candidacy, more likely to attend rallies. The 21K who showed up in Seattle is shocking. Hillary's are also very much committed to her, but they aren't as vocal about it. She doesn't pack up arenas, but they still all seem to show up in droves at the polls. I'm an Obama guy, I hope he pulls this out. But I don't want to overstate his support. His is just more visually apparent.
"Oh, we're in agreement on that.
watertiger, kodos4prez "
Good! I was beginning to worry about you there for a minute.
oooh, i win in a SQUEAKER!
By pissing on the board, you eclair-snarfing muff-twitter.
the al gore lovin' obama supporters down the street are planning on voting for mccain if hillary gets the nomination - on the "too many years of bush/clinton" theory
Now that's some idiocy.
Local County Dem Party HQ under DDOS attack
http://
www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=4502100
Howard Dean needs to organize a tactical response force, bang the pr drum etc., because this will only get worser.
-
Sallyh,
all my love to you and yours. Please let me know how things are going, I greatly fear we are entering the beginning of the nightmare you have endured.
Younger Son has disappeared. We're on our way to the police station to file a missing persons report.
His therapist believes he is an alcoholic. He is 16.
By pissing on the board, you eclair-snarfing muff-twitter.
NTodd is becoming the William Safire of this blog.
Hillary's supporters are more solidly "blue collar", at least among whites -- and Obama's more likely to have college and post-graduate degrees, if the polls are to be relied upon.
By pissing on the board, you eclair-snarfing muff-twitter.
Muff twitter?
I don't know what that is, but it sounds funny!
What's the matter with Kansas?
TJ-Omigod. You are in my thoughts.
TJ: may your fortunes change; all the best
Younger Son has disappeared. We're on our way to the police station to file a missing persons report.
His therapist believes he is an alcoholic. He is 16.
Oh no, TJ.
I hope it all works out.
the al gore lovin' obama supporters down the street are planning on voting for mccain if hillary gets the nomination
Meanwhile, the Dick Nixon lovin' Al Haig supporters are at Morrison's Cafeteria, trying out their new teeth..
What's the matter with Kansas?
Steve Hackett, former Genesis guitarist?
Thanks guys. It's why I haven't been around much. Not doing so good.
Hope you all are well. I'll try and check in later.
Younger Son has disappeared. We're on our way to the police station to file a missing persons report.
Oh, jesus fuck. So sorry.
Hmm, this scene of the new sheriff riding into town in Blazing Saddles has some peculiar resonance.
" if the polls are to be relied upon.
plantsman"
I don't trust them. Nope. Not me. Anything named a Poll does not have my trust.
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me if it is the ever annoying white woman, or the speckled hen. I just want a DEM in the WH!
Hmm, this scene of the new sheriff riding into town in Blazing Saddles has some peculiar resonance.
Denny Green?
TJ, may you find your son -- and may he find his way out of any thickets he has encountered.
god, thats awful TJ. Hope he is found soon!
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me if it is the ever annoying white woman, or the speckled hen.
Yeah, that characterization really sounds like it doesn't matter to you.
Younger Son has disappeared. We're on our way to the police station to file a missing persons report.
His therapist believes he is an alcoholic. He is 16.
Oh, god, TJ. If there's anything we can do...
I knew in some vague way that there were a lot of Americans here, but seeing dozens and dozens swarming through the voting place was a real sight.
Oh, jeez, TJ! Take care. All my best thoughts.
Bummer, TJ - good luck.
-
TJ, I'm so sorry. I've got two of those same type of problems. Two boys that think they will live forever. My heart goes out to you. Hope they find him soon.
Oh, god, TJ. If there's anything we can do...
watertiger, kodos4prez
Just keep us in your thoughts, please. He has so much to offer, I'm worried out of my mind.
"speckled hen" ?
Damn, Wigan got spanked by Sunderland 2-0. Only one point out of relegation territory now...
Muff twitter? I don't know what that is, but it sounds funny!
Distantly related to the tufted titmouse.
"speckled hen" ?
rootless-e | 02.09.08 - 3:55 pm | #
Yeah, I don't know either.
MP, I was being sarcastic. Really, the polls about who is voting for who are making me sick.
I don't like MSM classifying people as they go to vote. It is stupid really.
Just keep us in your thoughts, please. He has so much to offer, I'm worried out of my mind.
He's a fantastic guy, TJ. He's been through a lot of the past couple of years, as have you.
Mike--t/u--the on/off, unplug/plug thing has worked so far! I did it two days ago, usually doesn't need that kind of intervention that frequently.
Oops.
Thanks for the push--it's just a bit awkward to get to the router (trying to keep it away from TV radio as I was told that's important. I also read I should keep my cordless phone away from the CPU, but that's really difficult in my layout. Eeek.)
Jesus H. Christ, is everyone in my town getting foreclosed on?
The sheriff's sale list is going to look like a phone book.
At some point (off topic, but on, kind of comment I specialize in), the responsibility for high prices and the whole "mortgage crisis" rests with lenders, not just homeowners/builders.
When you make a "non-conventional" loan to someone who can't afford "conventional financing" because prices are too high, you encourage/create those high prices, and also encourage lending that shouldn't happen. It's exactly what caused the S&L collapse, at least in Texas: way too much land speculation held up by ballooning prices and lenders willing to make loans that never should have been made.
Now we've done it again, and yet the problem is seen as individual (bad lenders, bad buyers, bad somebodY), rather than systemic. And the systemic problem, of course is that: "Greed is good."
Well, that and you can't buck the invisible handjob of the market by refusing to participate in it. The lenders who don't, of course, go out of business. And the lenders who do, go out of business. And take a lot of people/companies with them (see: Texas, S&L bust). What to do, oh, what to do?
alright, brb.
Speaking of muff twitters*:
NTodd -- sorry, I was helping Mr. V dress his booth; he needs photos for a show he's applying for.
and it's your turn.
*whatever that means. He who smelt it probably dealt it, though.
MP, I was being sarcastic.
Sarcasm is way cool on this thread. I'm just not familiar with your nym.
The sheriff's sale list is going to look like a phone book.
Gomez, Vote For Sale
Could have been said for Austin, Texas, only 20 years ago. When will they ever learn?
BTW, David Shuster was the first to leap to Tweety's defense after he had to apologize.
He's a fuckwit.
Jesus H. Christ, is everyone in my town getting foreclosed on?
A couple of blocks from here, I counted five foreclosed houses on one fucking block.
It's mortifying.
Two across the street from me.
He's a fuckwit.
Gomez, Vote For Sale
Shuster's not a fuckwit. He does need to find his bearings, lately, though.
RMJ: seems to me that the lender who originates the loan, and then resells it immediately on the secondary market, has no incentive to do anything other than make the loans. Puts him into a bit of a moral hazard, it does, walking away from the transaction richer, immediately, with any risk borne by the secirity's holder and the borrower's.
I think this "I'm voting for mccainus if hrc is the nominee" is just a load of hooey.
"speckled hen" ?
'Great specked bird' maybe?
-
Too bad the lenders don't own the mortgages any more, or they could have worked out a deal with the current residents. I'll bet the ad wizards who came up with CDOs don't feel too bright any more.
RMJ: seems to me that the lender who originates the loan, and then resells it immediately on the secondary market, has no incentive to do anything other than make the loans. Puts him into a bit of a moral hazard, it does, walking away from the transaction richer, immediately, with any risk borne by the secirity's holder and the borrower's.
ProfWombat
Whole lotta screwiness goin' on, all of it justified in terms of: "I made money on the deal! Too bad for you if you didn't!"
...the al gore lovin' obama supporters down the street are planning on voting for mccain if hillary gets the nomination - on the "too many years of bush/clinton" theory.
Hope they like McCain's Supreme and Federal bench choices. He's promising to do the Alito/Robertson thing as a sop to the fundies and rightwads.
FSM help us!
seems to me that the lender who originates the loan, and then resells it immediately on the secondary market, has no incentive to do anything other than make the loans.
That's 90% of the problem.
"Sarcasm is way cool on this thread. I'm just not familiar with your nym.
MP "
Pardon me, I'm PeasantParty. I've been here for over 2 years. However, I lost my job and was unable to keep up the DSL for many months. After I regained temporary employment my mother became deathly ill and I took time to care for her. My old pals here are:
Ruth
NTodd
Hold
Attaturk
Watertiger
Echidne
WoodyGuthry
ProfWombat
Plantsman
DWD
and, oh my gosh, who else?
Oh yeah, that JR with the flaming torch on flammables.
There are many others that I'm sure I have left off, not on purpose.
Shuster's not a fuckwit. He does need to find his bearings, lately, though.
MP
You need to see the e-mail exchange between him and the Clinton campaign.
He was not going to apologize right away. And he was snotty about it.
Too bad the lenders don't own the mortgages any more, or they could have worked out a deal with the current residents.
Seriously. No matter who own the paper, what good is an empty house?
Afternoon, batties.
Anyone ever heard Merry Clayon's version of Gimmie Shelter?
Well, if you haven't...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XCyTqnizcvI
I just did. Pretty amazing.
So...What are we talking about, here?
underwhelm: the folks who came up with CDOs made a lot of money off 'em. They probably feel fine.
And that, of course, is the problem.
I think this "I'm voting for mccainus if hrc is the nominee" is just a load of hooey.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi | 02.09.08 - 4:00 pm | #
It really is. Well, maybe not for Republicans.
If people think the Denny Crane candidate is better for the country than Hillary, then fine. Just seems that it won't be the Dems making that distinction.
TJ--best wishes for a good outcome, and strength to you and yours.
SEE! The minute I press publish I see V., and RMJ, and...
Oh there are just too many.
Nice to meet you though. Hope to have more great thinks with you here.
Moe--Huh? Is there American's Abroad voting or something in Canada?
The paper's removed from the house seven degrees. And as long as real estate inevitably, always appreciated, it didn't worry anybody. Once asset prices fall, then the asset becomes again relevant to the worth of the secured obligation, a relevance which the entire system has evolved to thwart or deny.
"Irvine Housing Blog" is the goddam "Eschaton" of SoCal, I swear.
Garaunteed to bring you down, down, down to the ground. Make you wonder where death's "jolly old sting is" as I believe Bertie said, or words to that effect.
I bet Atrios is really dour and as soon as he sees a guy like me, he can get everything wrong with me into a snappy paragraph on a light-blue background. He doesn't even need a link, and everybody will hate me cause he said so. Fucking dour, I bet.
Far be it it from me, (well actually I keep my speculator right close, oiled and ready to vouschafe at a moment's notice. With me, thought is the father of a speculation, if you know what I mean) to speculate on other peoples matrimonial vicissitudes, assuming they have any, but I bet that Mrs. Atrios is one tough old bird, even if he does keep her in a guilded cage, or so I've heard!
Yay! -50 wind chills to look forward to tonight!
Gosh bless the North Star State!!
So...What are we talking about, here?
hillbilly ragger
Twatwaffles, shitpiles, primaries, family woes. You know, the usual.
Hope they like McCain's Supreme and Federal bench choices. He's promising to do the Alito/Robertson thing as a sop to the fundies and rightwads.
FSM help us!
jawbone | 02.09.08 - 4:02 pm | #
Bounces right off 'em. They are convinced that McCain is kinda moderate.
NEBRASKA DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS REPORT
Mrs marmoset and I participated in Nebraska's first Democratic caucus. Turnout wildly exceeded expectations; at our location, the school gym, cafeteria, and auditorium were overflowing with people, and the final vote tally had to be done outside. At our site, the vote split about 80:20 Obama:Clinton; reports from other precincts had similar numbers and proportions.
If this can happen in Nebraska, surely the rest of the country can follow through.
And Ann Coulter....she's has outdone herself.
Something I did not think possible.
"His strongest selling point is that he is one of the least dangerous people I know named Hussein."
"Other than that, Barack's really been kind of coasting on his record, since his first big accomplishment of being born half-black.
She wanted "I Am Woman," but that was already taken by John Edwards.
wow.
They probably feel fine.
Ah. They suffer from the same shame gland deficiency as the Bush family.
That last quote was Coulter's. I lost my tag somehow.
Shuster's not a fuckwit. He does need to find his bearings, lately, though.
MP
I noticed a couple of months ago that on occasion he would try to do the snarky "dems suck" banter, which seemed out of character for him. I wondered if he was auditioning for his own show.
underwhelm: the folks who came up with CDOs made a lot of money off 'em. They probably feel fine.
And that, of course, is the problem.
ProfWombat | 02.09.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Actually the problem is exactly that they got too greedy and had too many on their own books when the music stopped.
PeasantParty, we don't get Woody's comments anymore. Some kind of banning, then refusal to come back--I think.
I do miss WGG. And Tena. And probably folks I've forgotten the names of, since my memory for names sucks.
If this can happen in Nebraska, surely the rest of the country can follow through.
As goes Nebraska, so goes.......Guam.
(seriously, that's good news...lotsa turnout everywhere)
Yay! -50 wind chills to look forward to tonight!
I think it will be the last serious cold snap of the year, though!
Yay! -50 wind chills to look forward to tonight!
-80 in N. Dakota. There are going to be some frozen cows out there.
Yeah, I hope so, underwhelm.
This winter's been tedious, if anything.
Interesting how they feminized a son of a mill worker who became a successful, combative trial lawyer.
Yay! -50 wind chills to look forward to tonight!
I think it will be the last serious cold snap of the year, though!
underwhelm | 02.09.08 - 4:08 pm | #
God, I hope so. Just got 22 inches on Wednesday, now we have another 4 coming and we're already $7 million over budget for snow removal. Supposed to hit -5 tonight, tomorrow and Monday night. Four more inches by morning. Ugh...
-80 in N. Dakota. There are going to be some frozen cows out there.
leibniz, monadΩ
Those are much easier to tip.
And Ann Coulter....she's has outdone herself.
Riding that hatred gravy train.
By pissing on the board, you eclair-snarfing muff-twitter.
NTodd
Seems everyone enjoys smacking you around.
Shouldn't they be milking their cows or something out there in Nebraska?
"If this can happen in Nebraska, surely the rest of the country can follow through.
marmoset |"
WOOOOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Yeah! I felt the same way about SC. I'm still jumping with joy.
TJ, exhausted
TJ, DAMMIT!!
I'm so sorry. Hang in there girl.
Read the bit about WalMart shoppers using their Christmas gift cards for groceries.
Made me realize that Edwards' talk about Two Americas is no metaphor (which I as a DFH knew) and that the gulf is much wider than I had imagined. If economists, who by definition study the economy, can't understand what the lower income workes are going through, and keep making making the Happy Talk, those who depend on the economists for information are really fucked and out of it.
Damn.
There are cows here in Minnesota, but they're helping me in my unholy war against skyways...
"If this can happen in Nebraska, surely the rest of the country can follow through.
marmoset |"
As long as they don't scare the animals.
-80 in N. Dakota. There are going to be some frozen cows out there. - leibniz, monadΩ
Damn, that's Antarctic.
PeasantParty
Hello, from another sandlapper.
Riding that hatred gravy train.
...high on rat poison...
I interviewed at UC Irvine back in '01. Good university but I would never want to live there. I'm so glad I didn't have to (didn't get an offer; got two from elsewhere)...
My old pals here are:
Ruth
NTodd
Hold
Attaturk
Watertiger
Echidne
WoodyGuthry
ProfWombat
Plantsman
DWD
and, oh my gosh, who else?
Does that mean you're one of those a-list posters who I have to suck up to now?
"I do miss WGG. And Tena. And probably folks I've forgotten the names of, since my memory for names sucks.
jawbone"
OH MY GOSH! I forgot about Tena too.
:-(
Too bad. I have fond memories of those two. WGG helped me pick out the first real guitar for my youngest son.
WGG helped me pick out the first real guitar for my youngest son.
Does that machine kill fascists as we speak?
Eeesh:
The Minnesota Department of Transportation closed Interstate 94 between Moorhead and Fergus Falls from 9 a.m. to 1:30 p.m., and also advised no travel in most of the northwestern part of the state. In addition to I-94, the agency for a time closed U.S. Highway 2 between East Grand Forks and Crookston, as well as State Highway 75 in Polk County.
Transportation officials in North Dakota were advising no travel at all in any of the counties bordering Minnesota. Plows were pulled off the road in most of eastern North Dakota.
The National Weather Service has issued wind chill and winter storm advisories statewide, with wind chill temperatures expected to drop as low as 50 degrees below zero in some places.
By early afternoon Saturday the temperature in St. Paul was 15 degrees, with a wind chill temp of 1 degree below zero. The sub-zero temps and snow may persist through Sunday.
The Red River Valley always gets the fucked-up stuff.
jawbone | 02.09.08 - 4:11 pm | #
What's really messed up, are these arcane and indecipherable rules about who qualifies for various assistance, whether it be food stamps, or heating assistance, or unemployment bennys. If you're old and retired, you have weird hoops to jump through. If you're a student, you're basically fucked and don't qualify for anything. And, if you're disabled and on SSI/SocSec Disability, you can't own anything at all lest you give up those benefits. And then people wonder why there are those out there taking their gift cards and buying eggs and bread?
"Does that mean you're one of those a-list posters who I have to suck up to now?
Marcellina "
LOL! No. I'm not a-list nothing here. Besides, my grammar sucks!
Huckajeeeeeebus!
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It looks clear that Huckabee didn't just win but won in a blowout. It's important to note that Kansas is good territory for Huckabee. Evolution's been on the defensive in the state for many years. And it's a caucus, which privileges the most committed and engaged voters. That said, McCain's the presumptive nominee. So it will be important to watch how many states Huckabee can either win or seriously compete in. If the presumptive nominee continues to lose states that will, by definition, be a sign of something less than party unity
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iirc there was a book on championship scrabble.
More Coulter:
And I'm just thinking, people might ask, whoever heard of Hillary before 1992, when she foist that horny hick on the nation?
LOL! No. I'm not a-list nothing here. Besides, my grammar sucks!
PeasantParty
Um, that was sarcasm too.
It's 30º here right now, but it's going to drop below 0º by tonight. The wind has already picked up something fierce.
jawbone
my thoughts exactly. But they have to make the happy talk, because if they tell the truth, their mere words alone will cause a recession that has already begun (?)
It will be the same with the Prebate. The poor will pay bills and buy groceries, not the lovely little craps that the politicians are counting on, to stimulate the economy. Even the middle class will not be buying the baubles and bangles with the bribe money. They too will be paying bills, or buying groceries and gas with the bribes.
"Does that machine kill fascists as we speak?
hillbilly ragger"
I don't get that one. Of course, I missed the exit of WGG. Don't know a thing about what went on.
If anyone needs some sunshine I have mountain views from this afternoon.
Seems everyone enjoys smacking you around.
qlª
I would *like* to slap him around, but he's played THREE fucking bingos in this game.
Come to think of it, that makes me want to literally smack him around.
I don't get that one.
On his guitar, Woody Guthrie scrawled, "This machine kills fascists".
i remember back in the day going to apply for food stamps-told i might be able to get them in a month. i just kept working manpower gigs till i got a job. all that propaganda about benefits being easy to get was crap, at least in my case, or anybody i ever knew.
Jake in Milwaukee, what part of Milwaukee do you live in?
I used to live in Bay View, before that the East Side. Heavy snows were wonderful for park x-country skiing. Oh, frabjous joy!
Of course, there was the shoveling the car out from the plow mountains for anything that couldn't be walked to....
Worst ever was when what was supposed to be a not bad snow storm dumped incredible amounts, followed closely by unexpected sharp cold--and the streets hadn't been prepped properly to melt the road surface, so ruts formed which lead the horrible boiler plate ice. Real mess. For a long time.
One time time plow mountains were so high, cars at intersections couldn't see the cross street traffic. Local radio station gave away antenna bananas. I wanted one so much and never got one....
Good times!
"Um, that was sarcasm too.
Marcellina"
I know. It made me LOL.
If anyone needs some sunshine I have mountain views from this afternoon.
Marcellina | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:17 pm | #
You wake up to that everyday?
Damn.
I missed the exit of WGG. Don't know a thing about what went on.
I kinda liked WGG, but he mentioned gunfire violence to public people once too often for Atrios' taste, IIRC.
And good on Atrios. That shit is lame.
If anyone needs some sunshine I have mountain views from this afternoon.
I really like the fact that there's a working farm right in the middle of town.
80 Degress in socal right now
He's a fantastic guy, TJ. He's been through a lot of the past couple of years, as have you.
watertiger, kodos4prez
Her story is a reminder to us all of the grief that bush has wrought. Even the people who "survived" Katrina like TJ and her beautiful family....those who after 2 years finally have settled into decent/equivalent jobs, found housing. dammit
TJ my guys and I have you uppermost on our minds. Take care.
You wake up to that everyday?
Sometimes it rains. But, yeah. Taking nice pics is like shooting fish in a barrel.
ZAP, I didn't remember that.
Well, I tell you what, until that boy learned a few chords he would have killed anything living within 300 yards!
He is doing spectacular now.
Watching this Henry Louis Gates show on PBS. Don Cheadle's ancestor was owned by the Chickasaw Nation. Hadn't realized that native Americans owned slaves.
Good times!
jawbone | 02.09.08 - 4:17 pm | #
Ha! Seems, lots of MKE people in here from time and again.
That's what we have now. I live at the foot of a t-intersection and all the snow from the facing street gets plowed in front of my lawn. I can barely see the street.
It's gettin' rough here, though. Budgets are strained and the DPW is having a hard time getting the job done this year. Big backlash after our first storm (the first of December! its' been like this for months now), plows didn't show up for two days and even the insurance companies were bitching about all the avoidable claims.
I really like the fact that there's a working farm right in the middle of town.
Zap Rowsdowe
I do too. I'm probably the only one who likes the occasional smell of cow manure on that street!
Kieran, funny, I was going to link to another PBF Comic! Hell, I still will. The fence reminds me of:
Sometimes it rains. But, yeah. Taking nice pics is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Marcellina | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:20 pm | #
Simply gorgeous. I have this weird affinity to mountains. When I was in southern CA, I'd wake up with a snow-capped view of the Ojai range to my east. I miss it incredibly.
Beautiful, Marcellina!
Tralfaz: one of the things that broke my heart about slavery, the more I read about it, was how complicit everybody in the society was in it, everybody...
I do too. I'm probably the only one who likes the occasional smell of cow manure on that street!
Well, I wasn't gonna go that far...
Marcellina | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:20 pm | #
BTW, I stayed in Innsbruck for two weeks back in 2000. Stayed in the old part of the city, in a building so old it was crooked and the steps were more like slopes.
Whereas I am content, nay resigned, well consigned, consarn it, to being a complete nonentity at Eschaton does anyone besides me remember Ricky Vandal (and the Church of Fandel)?
Ahh, the trolls of threads past!
And what price "Cosmic Grappler"?
And search again the old golden threads among the silver (you knew I had to get that in there) for that perinial favorite, that man of every season and hour, one who might, and might not speak for every one of us here and at all the Eschatons and Eschacons now and far off into the future! I speak (blather, actually) of your fiend and mine Anonymous!!
Does anyone else remember him?
Watching this Henry Louis Gates show on PBS. Don Cheadle's ancestor was owned by the Chickasaw Nation. Hadn't realized that native Americans owned slaves.
Tralfaz
Neither did he, apparently. I loved the story of Chris Rock's ancestor!
I'm probably the only one who likes the occasional smell of cow manure on that street! - Marcellina
Us? We get that smell every time a candidate walks by.
Watching this Henry Louis Gates show on PBS. Don Cheadle's ancestor was owned by the Chickasaw Nation. Hadn't realized that native Americans owned slaves.
Yeah, we watched that the other night.
Chris Rock was in tears.
DoughBob LoadPants is very upset about the review of his book in The Economist.
When I was in southern CA, I'd wake up with a snow-capped view of the Ojai range to my east. I miss it incredibly.
I've seen that range! I was an au pair for a brief time in Santa Barbara. Gorgeous, having mountains, ocean and palm trees altogether like that.
ProfWombat, true. The thing is that it was accepted as everyday life. Like now, we all accept that minimum wage is fine. Well, IT'S NOT! American Citizens should not have to live that way. There is no dignity in that other than the fact that you worked a Hard days work.
Wow, TJ. He is one super kid. He'll pull through and so will you. Your hair will be grayer, but you'll survive.
I've seen that range! I was an au pair for a brief time in Santa Barbara. Gorgeous, having mountains, ocean and palm trees altogether like that.
Marcellina
Reminds me of the Med.
Ted is still my all-time favorite.
Cookie Fleck `08 | 02.09.08 - 4:07 pm ~~~~
It's more than a couple months ago that Shuster was dissing Dems. He was kinda getting into the Tweety mode....
And now he's stepped in it.
I do hope this helps those Boys' Club MCMers watch their smart comments a bit....
I've seen that range! I was an au pair for a brief time in Santa Barbara. Gorgeous, having mountains, ocean and palm trees altogether like that.
Marcellina | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:24 pm | #
In the summer, the mountain tops were relatively bare. But when the first rains of winter hit, you'd wake up and once you got onto the freeway (and above the marine layer) you could see this magnificent snowcover up there.
When I was in southern CA, I'd wake up with a snow-capped view of the Ojai range to my east. I miss it incredibly
My brother was stationed at Pt Mugu NAS. We used to do weekends in Ojai, just for the hell of it.
Beautiful part of the country. Hope to take him to N Cali sometime, so I can show him what real mountains are.
And now he's stepped in it.
I do hope this helps those Boys' Club MCMers watch their smart comments a bit....
jawbone | 02.09.08 - 4:26 pm | #
My opinion of Hillary has gone up from this incident. Maybe she did learn something.
" of your fiend and mine Anonymous!!
Does anyone else remember him?"
Oh YEAH! I remember him. I'm not sure if he was the name stealer or not, but man that was another mean one.
Because he hasn't had to explain it a gazillion times already:
Friends: Drugs were small part of Obama's youth
Thanks, NBC.
Tralfaz: one of the things that broke my heart about slavery, the more I read about it, was how complicit everybody in the society was in it, everybody...
Even a few (very few) African-Americans owned slaves. Very strange to think about.
If I remember correctly, it was a long day, living in Reseda. There's a freeway, running through the yard.
Afternoon, rational people.
I was initially skeptical about Gates' approach emphasizing celebrities, but I think it's quite an interesting and successful way to approach and depict this history.
Barndog, sick of snow | 02.09.08 - 4:27 pm | #
I lived in Oxnard. I'd pack my bike onto my car trunk out to Point Mugu and crash around the Santa Monica mnts. You'd see people horseback riding up there.
But even better is their "The Space Merchants" from the late 50s.
In the near future, Senators and Congressmen aren't elected from the states, but from corporations. So there's the Senator from ATT, the freshman congressman from Xerox, etc.
Needless to say, corporations can do pretty much what they want. For example, the secret ingredient in a certain instant coffee or something is heroin. Helps foster brand loyalty.
Basically, they predicted the country we live in at the moment. Amazing...
steve simels | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:49 pm | #
who were those guys who wrote the musicals long ago.
not the 'cats' or 'jesus christ superstar' guys......some old old old time musical guys......
i think they had a musical about war between soldiers loyal to corporations.....
wasn't a war over cheese?
Afternoon, rational people.
How are ya, darling?
Thanks, NBC.
My wife was reading me this article from the NY Times. The author obviously had no story to tell, so it wasn't clear why the story was written at all.
The Mac "found" the wireless mouse, but could not "pair" with it. Fuck it, a drink sounds better.
plantsman, | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 2:46 pm | #
you might need to go to the mouse's site and download a driver.
I do hope this helps those Boys' Club MCMers watch their smart comments a bit....
jawbone
I don't hold much hope. The Hillary candidacy has unleashed some sort of pent up misogyny in the MSM.
I got a real kick out of this diary at Orange Satan.
I've been saying the same thing for weeks now, but I'm a "troll".
The Known World by Edward P Jones, 2004 Pulitzer for fiction, is about a free black man who owns slaves. A profoundly moving book, one I'd recommend strongly.
Jake, I wonder if Tom Barrett is happy he traded his Congressional seat for the mayoralty of Milwaukee. Tough times for the city, with the loss of big manufacturing, right?
Kansas hearts Huckabee
Huckabee 61%
McCain 22%
Paul 11%
The wealth of this country was built on other people's land and slavery--two facts our official history doesn't like to deal with.
Hi Diane, we were just remembering the old days.
Love you, dear. Your blog is always right on.
Maybe not - but I sure wish I could buy this one.
Friends: Drugs were small part of Obama's youth
"Whatever Happened to 'Whatever Happened to the Dolphins?'?"
Kansas hearts Huckabee
Huckabee 61%
McCain 22%
Paul 11%
Lumpenprolitariot
What's the matter with Kansas?
The wealth of this country was built on other people's land and slavery--two facts our official history doesn't like to deal with.
"We've Fed You All For A Thousand Years..."
Jake, I wonder if Tom Barrett is happy he traded his Congressional seat for the mayoralty of Milwaukee. Tough times for the city, with the loss of big manufacturing, right?
jawbone | 02.09.08 - 4:30 pm | #
Well, to be fair, the poor bastard was apportioned out of his seat after the last census. When he ran for Gov, he made a commitment to Dem party leaders not to run for mayor. Then, he broke that pledge. So far, he's been the do-nothing mayor, which seems to work here since people don't typically re-elect anyone who actually does anything.
later, gators. Mwah!
bakatcha, Zap.
My sympathies to you northern tier folks. Those temps are awful.
What's the matter with Kansas?
too much corn in the diet.
For example, the secret ingredient in a certain instant coffee or something is heroin.
Or as Soupy Sales said when the Wrigley's Gum sign prop came down for the commercial and hit him on the head: "Somebody oughta fix that sign. I could use a fix, too"
I saw that. He was gone soon after.
I really didn't know then what a "fix" was, but if Soupy wanted one, so did I!
And what was the name of that coffee?
Huckabee 61%
McCain 22%
Paul 11%
Walrus 5%
how many people here are part of the Obama Cult?
you're like a bunch of religious crazies.
I've been saying the same thing for weeks now, but I'm a "troll".
dave™©
I started to read the proposed rules but realized I left my pearls upstairs.
Apparently, if you take out the independent voters McCain has not won a single state yet.
Feel the love for the bullshit express.
My sympathies to you northern tier folks. Those temps are awful.
Bah...we're all stoic and hardy and shit, remember?
Though, now looking out the picture window, the mighty oaks are a-swaying.
Gomez, you must live somewhere pretty horrible to be so offensive about nebraska.
Gail Collins on Mitt Romney was fun today:
Romney always seemed surprised, and a little hurt, by the very clear contempt the other Republican candidates had for him. He didn’t see himself as a compulsive panderer with no central core. He was a businessman, solving problems. Running for president was no different from manufacturing kitchen flooring, only somewhat more tiring. If your sales department told you that the clients would like your tile better if it was green instead of blue, you changed the color. You weren’t flip-flopping; you were responding to the mandate of the marketplace.
...And what will we remember about Mitt? His perfect grooming? His granola addiction? The day he equated his son’s campaign work in the Mittmobile to military service? That YouTube tape of him being asked to name his worst fault and telling a story about going to the hospital every Saturday to read to the sick children?
All I know is somewhere in doggie heaven, an Irish setter is laughing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/0...collins.html?
hp
how many people here are part of the Obama Cult?
We're still trying to figure out wht St. Ronnie isn't on Rushmore.
What's the matter with Kansas?
Shaw Kenawe,problemWW
The sheep are not safe there.
Please do not fuck the diseased troll.
TIA.
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Anyone ever notice how amazing it is that the people who bother you so much don't actually bother you that much after you stop hanging out where they do?
how many people here are part of the Obama Cult?
you're like a bunch of religious crazies.
pud | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:34 pm | #
Wrong blog. Try correntewire.
Anyone ever notice how amazing it is that the people who bother you so much don't actually bother you that much after you stop hanging out where they do?
Halfdan | 02.09.08 - 4:35 pm | #
LOL!
What's the matter with Kansas?
I think we just like our whackjobs to be overtly religious. I wonder if he had Phelps endorsement?
I really didn't know then what a "fix" was, but if Soupy wanted one, so did I!
And what was the name of that coffee? - Mooser
Thoug it was "Hire the handicapped. It's fun to watch them try to work." that got Soupy canned. Or was that Pinky Lee?
Please do not fuck the diseased troll.
TIA.
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QuentinCompson | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:35 pm | #
we used to hang that sign around your mom's neck.
The Known World by Edward P Jones, 2004 Pulitzer for fiction, is about a free black man who owns slaves...
Oy, the looks they would give him! And when he complained to his house-slaves about how demanding his wife was, they totally didn't want to hear it. Like, "Tell me about it" was their total attitude.
It just shows to go that things are tough all over.
Gomez, you must live somewhere pretty horrible to be so offensive about nebraska.
marmoset
Some of my best friends know people from Nebraska.
So there.
POPULIST, n.
A fossil patriot of the early agricultural period, found in the old red soapstone underlying Kansas; characterized by an uncommon spread of ear, which some naturalists contend gave him the power of flight, though Professors Morse and Whitney, pursuing independent lines of thought, have ingeniously pointed out that had he possessed it he would have gone elsewhere. In the picturesque speech of his period, some fragments of which have come down to us, he was known as "The Matter with Kansas."
Ambrose Bierce
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Gotta go for now. You folks keep up with the days stories. I'll be back later as the primary stories come in.
Watching this Henry Louis Gates show on PBS. Don Cheadle's ancestor
was owned by the Chickasaw Nation. Hadn't realized that native
Americans owned slaves.
Well, yes. My great, great, great, great grandmama was Nancy Susan Cheek Ginger, the daughter of Jefferson Cheek, a Cherokee and Jennie Ross, a 1/4 blood Cherokee. Nancy Susan walked the Trail of Tears - her father's 'other family' did not. That side of the family remained in Georgia, where it eventually included Dr. James E. Cheek, President of Howard University.
I am starting to tire of Obama's "Hope and Change" schstick and "yes we can." That starts to feel a tad cultish to me.
What's not to like? Home of StratCom, the air force base that routinely plans for Armageddon, home of Senator Hruska, who, when told that he was a mediocre Senator, replied that "mediocre people need representation too".
I saw that. He was gone soon after.
I really didn't know then what a "fix" was, but if Soupy wanted one, so did I!
And what was the name of that coffee?
Mooser | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:33 pm | #
i heard it was when he held up a banana and said "kids i have a girlfriend i really like. and you know what, she really makes my banana cream!"
Nebraska isn't bad. If you like seeing corn for hundreds of miles that is.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:39 pm | #
Damn. I wish I knew my family history. All I know is that my dad came from Michigan and that some folks sailed in from Ireland.
InfraGard being instructed on what to do if martial law in declared.
In return for being in the know, InfraGard members cooperate with the FBI and Homeland Security. "InfraGard members have contributed to about 100 FBI cases," Schneck says. "What InfraGard brings you is reach into the regional and local communities. We are a 22,000-member vetted body of subject-matter experts that reaches across seventeen matrixes. All the different stovepipes can connect with InfraGard."
[...]
One business owner in the United States tells me that InfraGard members are being advised on how to prepare for a martial law situation -- and what their role might be. He showed me his InfraGard card, with his name and e-mail address on the front, along with the InfraGard logo and its slogan, "Partnership for Protection." On the back of the card were the emergency numbers that Schneck mentioned.
I wish I could say this is tin foil hat stuff.
you're like a bunch of religious crazies.
pud | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:34 pm | #
yes, like the followers of Jesus.
There are many others that I'm sure I have left off, not on purpose.
PeasantParty
Woody is no longer here.
He was banned months ago.
Anyone ever notice how amazing it is that the people who bother you so much don't actually bother you that much after you stop hanging out where they do?
Halfdan |
What have I ever done to you? I thought you 'n me was allright?
Is it cause I said Eschaton is a massive bringdown? Well, I should qualify that, pal: Eschoton is a terrible bringdown if I don't read the comments!
Everything lightens up in the comments.
I am starting to tire of Obama's "Hope and Change" schstick and "yes we can." That starts to feel a tad cultish to me.
Cookie Fleck `08 | 02.09.08 - 4:40 pm | #
You're an Obama supporter with doubts?
All I know is that my dad came from Michigan and that some folks sailed in from Ireland
Yer not half bad there, Jake. Where in Michigan - do you know?
GWPDA,
It's fun. I traced my ancestry back to Madison's admin. Boat from England. Settled in upstate NY.
Nowhere near where I am now.
Hadn't realized that native
Americans owned slaves.
Hmm, a challenge in reparations allocation. How would one T-account that out?
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you're like a bunch of religious crazies.
pud
Leave our revival meeting, non-believer.
I saw a picture of three young women making big O's with their arms.
I hope that does not catch on.
Nebraska isn't bad. If you like seeing corn for hundreds of miles that is.
Barndog, sick of snow | 02.09.08 - 4:40 pm | #
That's a looooongggg drive through I-80...
InfraGard being instructed on what to do if martial law in declared.
Man, that's some creepy shit right there.
I am starting to tire of Obama's "Hope and Change" schstick and "yes we can." That starts to feel a tad cultish to me.
Cookie Fleck `08 | 02.09.08 - 4:40 pm | #
You're an Obama supporter with doubts?
rootless-e
I'm a supporter of whoever wins the Dem nomination. I just fear I might be too old to get Obama's appeal. But I'd still vote for him!
There were lots of stories about Soupy Sales, not all of them true. THe one I recall involved his suggesting to kids that they steal money from their parents and send it to him...
They banned Merkin too.
He was a troll. Who knew?
Even a few (very few) African-Americans owned slaves. Very strange to think about.
Halfdan
I know there were white indentured servants but were there any white slaves in the United States? Wikipedia mentions Irish slaves in Montserrat.
http://www.independent.co.uk/env...pan-
778016.html
If this is new news, it seems the plastic swirls in the Pacific are growing. Now twice the size of the continental US.
Charles Moore, an American oceanographer who discovered the "Great Pacific Garbage Patch" or "trash vortex", believes that about 100 million tons of flotsam are circulating in the region. Marcus Eriksen, a research director of the US-based Algalita Marine Research Foundation, which Mr Moore founded, said yesterday: "The original idea that people had was that it was an island of plastic garbage that you could almost walk on. It is not quite like that. It is almost like a plastic soup. It is endless for an area that is maybe twice the size as continental United States."
Curtis Ebbesmeyer, an oceanographer and leading authority on flotsam, has tracked the build-up of plastics in the seas for more than 15 years and compares the trash vortex to a living entity: "It moves around like a big animal without a leash." When that animal comes close to land, as it does at the Hawaiian archipelago, the results are dramatic. "The garbage patch barfs, and you get a beach covered with this confetti of plastic," he added.
The "soup" is actually two linked areas, either side of the islands of Hawaii, known as the Western and Eastern Pacific Garbage Patches. About one-fifth of the junk – which includes everything from footballs and kayaks to Lego blocks and carrier bags – is thrown off ships or oil platforms. The rest comes from land.
Mr Moore, a former sailor, came across the sea of waste by chance in 1997, while taking a short cut home from a Los Angeles to Hawaii yacht race. He had steered his craft into the "North Pacific gyre" – a vortex where the ocean circulates slowly because of little wind and extreme high pressure systems. Usually sailors avoid it.
He was astonished to find himself surrounded by rubbish, day after day, thousands of miles from land. "Every time I came on deck, there was trash floating by," he said in an interview. "How could we have fouled such a huge area? How could this go on for a week?"
Mr Moore, the heir to a family fortune from the oil industry, subsequently sold his business interests and became an environmental activist. He warned yesterday that unless consumers cut back on their use of disposable plastics, the plastic stew would double in size over the next decade.
Barndog, sick of snow | 02.09.08 - 4:42 pm | #
Western part, I think. He relocated to VA and my parents met while stationed at Fort Bragg. I'm actually the only suthin' boy in my family...
"I am starting to tire of Obama's "Hope and Change" schstick and "yes we can." That starts to feel a tad cultish to me."
Cookie Fleck `08 | 02.09.08 - 4:40 pm | #
If he wins, I wish him luck trying to bring together the bat shit insane folks in the Repigs party.
Good luck with that one Mr.
There were lots of stories about Soupy Sales, not all of them true. THe one I recall involved his suggesting to kids that they steal money from their parents and send it to him...
ProfWombat
Not a bad idea.
That's a looooongggg drive through I-80...
I usually can't pre-roll enough joints to make it through. It has been years though -1993 being the last time.
I should be going there in May (Denver that is).
I have a PDF of the 1850 census.
Check this out, they actually printed on the census, it was limited to the "Free" citizens of Liberty, NY.
pretzelattack, I don't really know what it was, but I remember that scene with the sign and the "fix".
Made a lifetime narcotics habitue out of me, so I hope Soupy's satisfied.
There were lots of stories about Soupy Sales, not all of them true. THe one I recall involved his suggesting to kids that they steal money from their parents and send it to him...
ProfWombat | 02.09.08 - 4:43 pm | #
oh yeah! id forgotten that one.
The Hillary candidacy has unleashed some sort of pent up misogyny in the MSM.
Cookie Fleck `08
Sickening, isn't it?
I should be going there in May (Denver that is).
Barndog, sick of snow | 02.09.08 - 4:44 pm | #
No kiddin. I always knew I was in Ogalalla when the smell of cow shit started blowing through my defroster.
They banned Merkin too.
He was a troll. Who knew?
Gomez |
You are joking?
Merkin was a troll, I can't believe it.
There were lots of stories about Soupy Sales, not all of them true. THe one I recall involved his suggesting to kids that they steal money from their parents and send it to him...
ProfWombat | 02.09.08 - 4:43 pm | #
he was Pat Robertson?
soupy ruined banana cream pie for me. i will never forgive that.
The Soupy Sales wiki is interesting, and includes a few paragraphs from his book talking about the myths that he said dirty stuff on the air, and also a couple of the pranks the crew played on him.
That might be my earliest memory of seeing something really, really funny on the teevee. He cracked me up.
You are joking?
Merkin was a troll, I can't believe it.
sally
He was good at hiding it. But I saw through it.
There were lots of stories about Soupy Sales, not all of them true. THe one I recall involved his suggesting to kids that they steal money from their parents and send it to him...
ProfWombat |
THAT one is true
What have I ever done to you? I thought you 'n me was allright?
No not you!
He was good at hiding it. But I saw through it
You're an attorney. That's part of your job isn't it?
Sergeant: "Correct, there is no obligation."
Bender/Fry: *giggling, signing up for army*
Sergeant: "Unless of course, war were declared."
*alarm goes off*
Fry: "What's that?"
Sergeant: "War were declared."
The real tragedy is that this runs the risk of undermining what would otherwise be reliably Republican voters.
Its' a recession if you lose your house, it's a depression if I do.
I heard the "send your parent's money" thing, too. I loves Soupy.
The other gaffes he is reputed to have made I cannot vouschafe, but those I can. And I'll unlimber my vouschafer and let loose any time anyone asks.
No, Candy Crowly, the huge turnout isn't because it is a close race. The huge turnout is because everyone is desperate to get the moron out of the WH.
like the followers of Jesus.
ronjazz
And the Reagan cultists.
then there were the jello commercials, with vast hordes running to get their jello. and those 2 animals.
I wish I could say this is tin foil hat stuff.
qlª | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 4:40 pm | #
I think that InfraGard stuff scares me more than most of the other things going on.
The huge turnout is because everyone is desperate to get the moron out of the WH.
The RNC knows that, even if Miss Candy doesn't.
Merkin was a troll, I can't believe it.
sally
Not buyin' it.
If this is new news, it seems the plastic swirls in the Pacific are growing. Now twice the size of the continental US.
The ecological invisible hand of Adam Smith.
I believe that Krusty the Klown spoofed the Soupy Sales bit.
Can you tell which generation I'm from?
No, Candy Crowly, the huge turnout isn't because it is a close race. The huge turnout is because everyone is desperate to get the moron out of the WH.
qlª
Absolutely!
They banned Merkin too.
Only one person bans anyone.
He was a troll. Who knew?
Trolls don't get banned. Merkin was by far the funniest (and probably most insightful commenter we had). And entirely inoffensive, too.
Was merkin really banned. I know he got married and stopped hanging out so much. I guess one of his parodies may have crossed the line, but I don't think he was a troll. WGG thought he was a troll.
well, i see kansas is just as fundie-whacked out as ever. huckster crushed mccain: 9172/3276
I bet the villagers never mention the huge turn outs on the Dem side.
Candy can kiss my ass.
Sq. Ft.: 3,750
$/Sq. Ft.: $453
Lot Size: 6,348 sq. ft.
A 3,700 sq. ft. house on a 6,300 sq. ft. lot? In Irvine?? Can you say McMansion? What kind of idiot builds that?
We're looking for like an 1,800 sq. ft. house on like a 20,000 sq. ft. lot. If the house is on the shabby side, that's fine, so long as we can get it cheaper an dupgrade later. In WC, those are mostly going in the 700-900k range.
The notion of negative externalities in economics, seems to me, is worth far more thoughtful scrutiny than it's gotten.
IIRC, there were a few folks that thought that Merkin is/was real, and would bleeping argue with him!
merkin got banned? he posted here recently.
Not buyin' it.
ditto
Does anyone else remember him?
I remember sumwon and doctor stunned, among the trolls.
And old hat, thumb, chica toxica, mondo, sharkbabe, michael moore's left titty, olaf glad and big, among others I haven't see here in a while.
No not you!
Halfdan
Yes, yes indeed, Halfdan, me! And until I go the way of Merkin And WGG and how many others(?) here I will be. And if you make objections or abjurations I will bruit instead of moot the question of where the other half got off to, Dan!
They banned Merkin too.
He was a troll. Who knew?
Gomez
Atrios banned MERKIN? Unpossible! You couldn't pay somebody to write that stuff for you.
"Kids! While your mommy and daddy are asleep, you go get Daddy's wallet. Now, you see those green pieces of paper? Just take those out and mail them to me, Soupy Sales, 2234802 30482. ..." Soupy was not on the air shortly after he made that request.
It appears that it really doesn't matter. In the big state races, both Hillary and Obama garnered as many votes as all of the Republican candidates combined.
Consolidated, it would be an avalanche.
Merkin was far, far too clever to be a wingnut.
They are too stupid to pull that off.
Well if Merkin was a troll he was pretty bad at it.
American history is certainly a tangled mess. Not much of the inconvenient details get taught. A lot seem to have been actively forgotten...
The notion of negative externalities in economics, seems to me, is worth far more thoughtful scrutiny than it's gotten.
But they are, by definition, of no interest. Their hands are tied!
Every academic discipline suffers from these blind spots.
olaf glad and big
Still comes around regularly.
Chica moved to Spain
IIRC, there were a few folks that thought that Merkin is/was real, and would bleeping argue with him!
Zap Rowsdower
There is no motherfuckinwayinhell anyone who wasn't really smart and able to see the ridiculousness of the wingtard POV could come up with that kind of grammatical and spelling error. It's too trenchant and too funny.
owls from oz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Merkin was here only a few days ago, so I doubt he would be banned and certainly not on purpose.
wait, is this a twilight zone episode?where the counterman pulls off his hat and reveals....
pretzelattack
"Will The Real Martian Please Stand Up?"
My daughter's favorite episode.
www.Infragard.com
No kidding. And you can sign up to be a member of your local chapter - volunteer for a free FBI background check!
Olav Glad & has changed his nym. He and Little Red in the Hood are blissfully happy in Albuquerque. NM Red has been out of touch for awhile tho.
I'm quite sure Atrios was in on the joke. Merkin has been mentioned on the front page more than once.
How do you ban someone without registered commenting?
olaf glad and big
Still here but changed his name.
No kidding. And you can sign up to be a member of your local chapter - volunteer for a free FBI background check!
If only Stalin had the interwebs....
American history is certainly a tangled mess.
"The human heart is a dark, dark forest"
I think Henreich Heine (sp?) said that, but I'm not sure. Of its validity and veracity I am positive, though. Nod-nod, wink-wink, nudge-nudge.
Was merkin really banned. I know he got married and stopped hanging out so much. I guess one of his parodies may have crossed the line, but I don't think he was a troll. WGG thought he was a troll.
qlª
I thought he posted a few days ago (unless someone cut and pasted an old one).
I thought he posted a few days ago (unless someone cut and pasted an old one).
Lumpenprolitariot
I think he posted something late yesterday afternoon, if memory serves me correctly,
chica toxica posted here from Paris yesterday, if it truly was her.
No kidding. And you can sign up to be a member of your local chapter - volunteer for a free FBI background check!
If only Stalin had the interwebs....
Cookie Fleck `08
Maybe we should all join. I am sure the FBI has checked us all out already. But wait, there is a little problem. Who would sponsor us?
To join, each person must be sponsored by "an existing InfraGard member, chapter, or partner organization." The FBI then vets the applicant.
I’ve read in many places that those who have no need of govt are the biggest supporters of Obama, while those of us who need healthcare or better schools and other things only Fed Govt can supply are clearly responding to Clinton. That we don’t look to Presidents for hope or for inspiration, but for practical concrete fixes and actions.
This excerpt from a comment over at Corrent suggests why what Bobo refers to as the low education voters lean strongly toward Hillary. Especially those high school educated women who don't make much money. They, and most in their economic stata, need to feel there is a government which will help them when they need and help to better themselves.
Interestig summary. And, of course, not everyone in a given demographic reacts the same.
That we don’t look to Presidents for hope or for inspiration, but for practical concrete fixes and actions.
You are all aware, I trust, that this is one thing we must never, never do! Although it' is an established socioeconomic axiom, and we all take it in with our Mother's milk, it bears repeating:
A single dollar spent on any concrete service or any government enterprise whatsoever which seeks to help the individual citizens who need something, represents at least $100.00 more we will have to spend due to the "unintended cascading negative consequences of altruism"
Everybody knows that! The other ironclad law of economics is:
Aggresive foreign wars fought on borrowed money is the only rational and profitable use for US government power and money, and will lead to nothing but an almost unbearable wonderful profusion of ponies!!!
Have you got your Pony (TM) yet?
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