I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Yay
my first first today
yup, can't attack the substance so go after the messenger.
homer anyone?
Frost family is refusing to back down. I'm sure Pelosi and Reid will begin criticizing them soon.
cosmosis
_________________________________________
I think that's way too harsh and out of line!
Pelosi and Reid will simply profoundly apologize on the Frost's behalf, proving that they are superior even to Republic loyalists like Harry Whittington, who apologized for getting in the way of Deadeye Dick's errant shotgun blast.
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ql optimist | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 2:44 pm | #
Thank goodness. They slow down Haloscan so friggin much.
He is too an economist. And a cute economist at that.
That thread never saw me coming.
They had Peter Beinart review his last book???
What was it, a bar mitzvah present from the editors?
ded thredded:
Frost family is refusing to back down. I'm sure Pelosi and Reid will begin criticizing them soon.
cosmosis
How nice of them to run such effective interference for Bush and Cheney!
That asshole David Kennedy teaches at Condi Rice U. Fuck you, Davey.
Plus, you totally missed my "Help me build a Modern American Literature reading list" thingy.
AmLit is all crap. Use all Irish writers and pretend they're American. You won't regret it.
He is too an economist. And a cute economist at that.
Then how do you explain his shrill and determined rejection of supply side theory?
I see Old "Give 'em Head" Harry still has dick suck face over there in the corner!
Frost family is refusing to back down. I'm sure Pelosi and Reid will begin criticizing them soon.
cosmosis
_________
I thought our leaders in congress were Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.Now I find out we have Donna Reed and Nancy Quislosi !!!
Then how do you explain his shrill and determined rejection of supply side theory?
Okay, so he's a cute economist who knows bullshit when he sees it.
Frost family is refusing to back down. I'm sure Pelosi and Reid will begin criticizing them soon.
cosmosis
They're traitors and they hate 'merca. $ should only be spent on Blackwater.
Okay, gotta get ready to head off to Gomorrah on the Hudson, for an evening of Day Before Birthday quaffing of elitist chardonnay.
When I return, I shall be a year older. Looking forward to talking to you all then, and have fun in my absence.
I can't be sure, but I think I just saw the invisible hand giving Krugman the finger.
So great if Bloomberg runs we'll a Mormon, a Jew and a woman to choose amongst.
steve simels | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 2:53 pm | #
Happy b-day, simels !
From below:
Bloomberg won my respect when he said that folks had more of a chance of being struck by lightning than being killed in a terrorist attack.
Buzzflash needs money more than Amazon.com.
Pelosi'd suck dick if she could move her facial muscles.
When I return, I shall be a year older. Looking forward to talking to you all then, and have fun in my absence.
steve simels |
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10.20.07 - 2:53 pm | #
simels- if anyone deserves to be a year older, it's you!
Pelosi'd suck dick if she could move her facial muscles.
Duane V | 10.20.07 - 2:54 pm | #
LOL. Congresswoman Collusion
Pelosi'd suck dick if she could move her facial muscles.
Duane V
The same can be said for Mary Matalin.
Krugman dope-slapped lil Davey.
WWND? [What would Nelson do?]:Ha Ha.
Our elite discourse is so fucking stupid.
You wonder how much longer this trend can last. Stupid people in government failing upwards. Stupid media to prop up the stupid government. Stupid free market fools running the economy.
A society that rewards people for stupidity is headed for extinction.
Nah, Pelosi is one of those chicks that just doesn't do that at all
I think the Invisible Hand has been giving all of us the finger for quite some time now.
Happy birthday Steve! Have fun, be safe!
The same can be said for Mary Matalin.
Terry C - Edwards/Kucinich 08 | 10.20.07 - 2:54 pm | #
And cue ball hickwad hubby.
I can't be sure, but I think I just saw the invisible hand giving Krugman the finger.
JeffCO
Right now, the invisible hand is giving me a hand - job!
Of course Krugman is an economist, and a fucking good one, too; it's just that he's not their economist.
http://
www.workingassetsblog.com...g_bloggers.html
Maybe that wingnut Kennedy could see if the latest Nobels were awarded to people working on market failure. Let me check--yes, they were. Maybe historians could get their history right. Let me check--Kennedy missed again. Maybe economists should be right more than once a century- Krugman yes, Kennedy & his orthadox friends- no. Maybe Kennedy has been hanging out w/ Vic Dave Hanson--he hasn't been right about anything for years, either.
I think the Invisible Hand has been giving all of us the finger for quite some time now.
I am reminded of a line from Fletch....
Fuck Adam Smith and the lazy fairy, whoever he is.
Of course Krugman is an economist, and a fucking good one, too; it's just that he's not their economist.
shrimplate
Bingo!
My borg boss is always going on about Adam Fucking Smith.
Oh my God. Krugman thought the Voting Rights Act passed in 1964. But that was the *Civil* Rights Act. The Voting Rights Act passed in 1965! And that fact is completely central to his thesis!
I saw the string theory guy in the bagel store again this AM.
Pelosi'd suck dick if she could move her facial muscles.
Duane V | 10.20.07 - 2:54 pm | #
She's already apologized for you saying that.
Adam Smith ain't what the republickers think he is. If Kennedy ever read Wealth of Nations, he'd say Smith wasn't an economist either.
And that fact is completely central to his thesis!
The authoritarians worship errata.
Of course Krugman is an economist, and a fucking good one, too; it's just that he's not their economist.
A prerequisite for being their economist is stupidity.
Steve Simels: Re your comment below about Mike Bloomberg vs. Giuliani, I agree that Bloomberg has been way better for New York. But that seems to be the sum total of his appeal as a politician -- that he's not a vindictive jerk, like that last guy (whether said last guy is Rudy or Bush) -- which seems to me to be setting the bar kind of low.
P.S. I visited your blog and left a comment on the Bowie thread....
She's already apologized for your saying that.
[precipitously possessed by pedantic NTodd]
I went to see Krugman with Franken once at B&N in Union Square. The place was so crowded I thought the floor couldn't support us all ... and it was fucking hot up there (4th floor). Anyway, Franken and Krugman come up on the escalator. Franken moves like a wrestler (his chest proceeds the rest of him and he sort of waddles). He walks in, very macho. Krugman is behind him and the look on his face is pure astonishment, as if to say, "Who are all these people and what the hell are they doing here?"
That's when he became the Cute Economist.
"most Americans do not consider the Bush administration corrupt, and Paul Krugman cannot convincingly prove it is."
"Moronic" doesn't even BEGIN to cover THAT statement.
Wingnut modern art:
A painting of Krugman, with the line written under it, Ceci n'est ce pas une economist.
"most Americans do not consider the Bush administration corrupt, and Paul Krugman cannot convincingly prove it is."
David Kennedy is a bot. Zip open the skin, and there's a lizard.
When we look up "wrong" in the dictionary, is Beinart's picture included?
It's kind of like saying that someone's not really a doctor since sometimes she believes that it's necessary to prescribe medicine or to institute a better diet.
Thers - Good choice on the GBV video last night. You should get to choose, not the A man.
First rule is:
If you don't support Bush foreign policy, you aren't an American.
Second rule is:
If you don't support laissez-faire economic policy under all circumstances, you "aren't an economist."
Third rule is:
If you don't support American use of force as a first resort in all crcumstances, regardless of legality, you aren't "serious."
(Fourth rule is: Eat kosher salamis)*
See how the rules work, all you careerist public policy intellectuals out there? Do take notes. There will be a test. Lots of them. You don't want to fail.
*Apologies to the Ramones.
(Fourth rule is: Eat kosher salamis)
HA!
-
*Apologies to the Ramones.
Potato Head | 10.20.07 - 3:03 pm | #
20 20 24 hours a day
I wanna be fellated
(just not by Pelosi)
ok, time to choose....the dragon lady red nail polish or the classic pearl pink?
Hahahahaha! Chalk one up for Rush Limbaugh auctioning off the letter of condemnation from Congress. $1.2M bucks, too cool. He read off names as he held it up, Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry......What fools.
Harry Reid is a senile old codger who just took the word of Hillary's Media Mashers. What is funny or disturbing, however you look at it, is that his colleagues went along without question. Typical Dems, believe the worst disregard the truth.
I am not a regular listener of Limbaughs but anyone who listened to the tape between Rush and the caller about the "phony soldier" knew what he was referring to. Not the Democrats, they had to spin it to discredit and censor the one man who makes them squirm.
Just part of the Dem Circus, folks. Maybe the apology letter will go for double, IF that were to happen.
TCB
PS I wasn't aware that "the phony soldier" aka Jesse Macbeth was born Haggi Alfaasa or something like that.
Where did simels go?
I don't usually refer to it as "dragon lady" but I'm gonna go with red
Texaschilibean | 10.20.07 - 3:07 pm | #
Oxy Cotton Boy
Where did simels go?
Culture of TrÜth |
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10.20.07 - 3:07 pm | #
Babylon on the Hudson for some elitist chardonnay. His birthday is I think Sunday.
Ignore the See-n-Pee troll...
Viagra in Dominican Republic boy
CoT,
simels went to Sin City.
Good choice on the GBV video last night. You should get to choose, not the A man.
Hee hee.
Tonight maybe we'll do a Yes video in honor of Simels' birthday.
If you don't support Bush foreign policy, you aren't an American.
As Bill Maher so eloquently put it recently:
"Traitors don't get to question my patriotism".
But most Americans do not consider the Bush administration corrupt, and Paul Krugman cannot convincingly prove it is.
ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,
look, if not for atrios, i'd have never known who peter beinart was.
but i've seen him in many interviews since then, and he's like a stupid little kid.
i stopped reading after that.
Texass boy has gas.
Thers,
I can haz Nyquil & vodka smoothie?
I hope the wastoid that bought that Limpballs letter suffers a market correction that wipes out their whole retirement fund.
Jesus what a steaming pile of free market mysticism that review is. It's all there, the invisible hand, Adam Smith. It's a collection of what passes for modern conservatism (an oxymoron if there ever was one) thought. If indeed a trite pile of conservative adages can be called "thought".
Ignore the See-n-Pee troll...
Ridnik Chrome
Sounds like a plan.
I don't usually refer to it as "dragon lady" but I'm gonna go with red
FireFox-in DFW |
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10.20.07 - 3:07 pm | #
its actually called "Big Apple Red" quite bright.
Is it bad if it's 3:03 PM and I'm stil in my jammies?
I am, too, res 
The sum total of conservative thought - "I got mine. Fuck the rest."
I took a shower at least. I'm in clean 'jammies.
res, I don't see it as an issue.
Adam Smith liked a big healthy inheritance tax because he lived among all the useless rich assholes in UK. He would have hated Chimp. To Kennedy, therefore, Smith wasn't a real economist
"hooray for me and fuck you" to put it another way.
Hey, Ridnik Chrome. Good to see you. It's been a while ...
Driveby; this a.m. on WSReport, Maria Barfilomo made a disparaging reference to non-Merkin health care, ending with 'I wouldn't want to get sick in France', to which Krugman very frankly informed her French health care is great, and basic care much better than U.S. She moved right along to another subject.
Oooooops, a Fact.
"Maria Barfilomo made a disparaging reference to non-Merkin health care, ending with 'I wouldn't want to get sick in France', to which Krugman very frankly informed her French health care is great, and basic care much better than U.S. She moved right along to another subject."
Has the dumb bitch ever BEEN to France?
I see laissez-faire as a political doctrine. In fact from what I've heard of economics/finance/business education, outside of the bulk of technical material, it's basically otherwise, consciously or not, about political indoctrination.
The sum total of conservative thought - "I got mine. Fuck the rest."
Richard
The Reagan Doctrine.
Is it bad if it's 3:03 PM and I'm stil in my jammies?
Is anyone in the jammies with you?
Has the dumb bitch ever BEEN to France?
Terry C - Edwards/Kucinich 08
Does Euro-Disney count?
I can haz Nyquil & vodka smoothie?
The taste of a new generation...
Is anyone in the jammies with you?
Thers, Last Ethical Man | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 3:14 pm | #
If they were I wouldn't tell you seeing as you're the dad figure around here and I would promptly get grounded or somesuch.
Despite having won awards, David Kennedy's Freedom From Fear is riddled with legal, economic and historic errors. For those interested, I have briefly summarized them on the comment section in the link.
For a tool such as Kennedy to be given the job of reviewing Mr. Krugman's book is an insult not only to Krugman but to all NYTimes readers.
And Keynes and Galbraith were, what? Bicycle repairmen? Dogcatchers?
"Maria Barfilomo made a disparaging reference to non-Merkin health care, ending with 'I wouldn't want to get sick in France', to which Krugman very frankly informed her French health care is great, and basic care much better than U.S. She moved right along to another subject."
Nice dsl on her. But she's a dumb c-word.
Is it bad if it's 3:03 PM and I'm stil in my jammies?
Hey, it's the weekend!
you're the dad figure around here and I would promptly get grounded or somesuch.
I thought Atrios was the dad.
I was hoping for the role of the playful uncle.
Test.
Is it bad if it's 3:03 PM and I'm stil in my jammies?
It's always 3:03 pm somewhere. That's why I'm always in my jammies.
The NYT sat on the NSA eavesdropping story right before the 2004 elections.
I was hoping for the role of the playful uncle.
Thers, Last Ethical Man |
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10.20.07 - 3:17 pm | #
How I learned to Drive?
20 20 24 hours a day
I wanna be fellated
(just not by Pelosi)
Gilly Gonzylon
"Give 'em head" harry's been real busy lately..
nevermind.
I'm away.
evening moonbats 
currently watching the Rugby World Cup Final, England vs. S. Africa!!
No, Atrios is the cool older brother (although I am older than he). You are the dad. NTodd is more the uncle.
"How I Learned To Drive" was great. I wish someone would do a revival.
Hecate has email....
i do hope those who criticize Paul Krugman realize that what they think as the 'free market' really isn't
that most don't even read their so called idol very well
No, Atrios is the cool older brother (although I am older than he). You are the dad. NTodd is more the uncle
I just want to know who is going to buy the beer and loan us the car to use.
"most Americans do not consider the Bush administration corrupt, and Paul Krugman cannot convincingly prove it is."
What planet does David Kennedy live on?
NTodd would probably be the one to buy the beer.
NTodd is more the uncle.
The one your parents always warned you about being alone with?
what we have is another form of state intervention, only this time is for corporations
most modern corps i don't think could survive without a state
I am somewhat surprised that David Kennedy wrote this drivel. Maybe he's been going over to the Hoover institute and sitting in circle jerks with DVH and the like.
What planet does David Kennedy live on?
Duane V | 10.20.07 - 3:21 pm | #
Planet Shill
A rational approach to Political Islam.
It's a well-known fact that everyone at the Hoover Institute sucks.
I am somewhat surprised that David Kennedy wrote this drivel. Maybe he's been going over to the Hoover institute and sitting in circle jerks with DVH and the like.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in | 10.20.07 - 3:22 pm | #
Give me an A !
Give me an E !
Give me an I !
what does it spell?
Fascism !
"Maria Barfilomo made a disparaging reference to non-Merkin health care, ending with 'I wouldn't want to get sick in France'
Would you like to get laid in France by a rich playboy on a fancy yacht?
I always thought NTodd was the good looking neighbor who you know has something of a tragic past. But it doesn't keep him from staring when you walk by.
Would you like to get laid in France by a rich playboy on a fancy yacht?
Lime Rickey | 10.20.07 - 3:24 pm | #
She prefers Nazis
The one your parents always warned you about being alone with?
No, the one who would let you stay up late, eat pizza for breakfast, and look away when you beat the shit out of your little sister because like you, he knew she was a gigantic pain in the ass who deserved it.
Would you like to get laid in France by a rich playboy on a fancy yacht?
mimi, is that you?
I always thought NTodd was the good looking neighbor who you know has something of a tragic past.
Boo Radley!
I see Ntodd as a liberal who becomes libertarian when it comes to deregulating the internet.
I think the thing that impressed me when I was in Europe is that they go about their daily lives and don't think much about what we are up to.
American narcicissm is really amazing. We seem to believe that everyone spends as much time obsessing about us as we do.
Politics has really gotten nostalgic because of the dearth of contemporary leadership.
It's an endless FDR v. Reagan cagematch.
Boo Radley!
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10.20.07 - 3:27 pm | #
Give me an A !
Give me an E !
Give me an I !
what does it spell?
Fascism !
Gilly Gonzylon
And I always thought it was spelled m-a-n-h-a-t-t-a-n i-n-s-t-i-t-u-t-e, or h-e-r-i-t-a-g-e f-o-u-n-d-a-t-i-o-n.
"most Americans do not consider the Bush administration corrupt, and Paul Krugman cannot convincingly prove it is."
Oh, horseshit. As for "most Americans", I guess Kennedy doesn't read the same polls I do - or rather does not read them at all, trusting his Broderesque ass to tell him the true feelings of "most Americans".
As for proof, of course it can't be proved - all the evidence is hidden under the national security penumbra. The prisons would be empty if the common criminals could hide the evidence of their misdeeds with the force of the United States government, as the Bush Administration does.
New wingnut dork as reviewer at NYT? Maybe he meant Bobonomist rather than economist.
Switzerland is voting in a parliamentary election after an unusually tense campaign marked by violent protests and charges of racism levelled against the country's biggest party.
With polling booths due to close on Sunday, about one-third of the electorate have already cast their vote by post.
The right-leaning Swiss People's Party's (SVP) focus on crime and immigration has captured the headlines in recent weeks and its aggressive campaigning has broken with the consensual traditions of Swiss politics.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...D8BDF62EDB0.htm
Gravatar test.
(case specific?)
My grav has gone missing for some reason.
My only problem with the book is that Paul Wellstone already wrote a book called The Conscience of a Liberal."
And it is a damn fine tome, at that.
Why do people still cling to these old-timey economic ideas? We don't ride around in Model-T Fords that only come in black.
There's some Ayn Rand whacko on BookTV. One of the spinoza cats just threw up.
Tens of thousands of people from across Italy have marched in Rome to demand labour market and pension reforms.
Waving red flags, the demonstrators demanded the government of Romano Prodi guarantee better rights for workers.
The rally was organised by the radical left, which is part of the governing coalition. It said the protest was not aimed against the prime minister.
But correspondents say Mr Prodi fears the march will further weaken his left-wing majority in parliament.
He called on his ministers to stay away from the demonstration.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ope/
7054474.stm
my Grav seems to be sticking with me. can't say why though
OK, another edition in the irregular series of How Our Friends View Us.
This time, someone actually uses the term "concentration camp" when referring to Gitmo.
If it makes you feel any better, last week the NYT had John Leonard review the Susan Faludi book and he called bullshit on the NYT for printing, well, bullshit about how allwomen wanted to after 9-11 was not work and nest and get married to a fireman.
"Maria Barfilomo made a disparaging reference to non-Merkin health care, ending with 'I wouldn't want to get sick in France'
I've never been sick in France, but my nephew ran through a plate glass door while his family was on vacation in Ireland. He just had a couple of superficial cuts, but they took him to the emergency room anyway. The bill was $34. I have never gotten out of an emergency room for less than $500. In fact, IIRC that's the ER charge.
lay - tor, folks. gettin' yelled at for surfin' the 'nets.
get married to a fireman.
res ipsa loquitur
Firemen have long hoses. That can't be all bad.
I blame all my recent computer problems on Moonbootica.
Jesus Christ on a cracker.
Blackwater is sponsoring a fucking Craftsman truck!
Unfucking believable.
Is it bad if it's 3:03 PM and I'm stil in my jammies?
res ipsa loquitur
I'm not only still in my jammies, I haven't had a shower, the jammies aren't clean ones, and I've already had my first nap of the day.
I blame all my recent computer problems on Moonbootica.
The Kenosha Kid
And I blame my inability to keep up with the comments here on her because her links are always worth following.
its 8.32pm here
I got sick in France once. ("Got sick" probably isn't the right phrase, but the point is, I needed a doctah) and it was fucking fine. In fact, it was no-fuss, no-muss problem fucking solved. I think I paid the guy the equivalent of $15.
England vs. S. Africa!!
"Zulu", starring Michael Caine is a fine film.
Kenosha Kid,
You are, as I said earlier, more elusive than bin Laden. I was going to ask if you wanted to see the new Wes Anderson at 4 PM, but I guess that is out of the fucking question now?
I think instead of always mocking NTodd and busting Simels' chops for being old, we should take one day out of our lives and take the mickey out of Moonbootica.
I'm not only still in my jammies, I haven't had a shower, the jammies aren't clean ones, and I've already had my first nap of the day.
Jennifer
Um...me too also.
But I did brush my teeth.
You are, as I said earlier, more elusive than bin Laden. I was going to ask if you wanted to see the new Wes Anderson at 4 PM, but I guess that is out of the fucking question now?
You are correct and that movie looks lethal anyway.
What's next?
The Schutzstaffel sponsoring all expense paid train rides?
I got sick in France once. ("Got sick" probably isn't the right phrase, but the point is, I needed a doctah) and it was fucking fine. In fact, it was no-fuss, no-muss problem fucking solved. I think I paid the guy the equivalent of $15.
res ipsa loquitur
But American health care is the best money can buy because it costs more.
Speaking of alleged inaccurate statements, anyone catch ABCs John Stossel's segment "Give Me A Break"?
He took apart the disinformation and spin in Gore's crockumentary including the number of 2500 so-called scientists who claim global warming is a crisis. It turns out they were a commitee of activists who dropped a few names associated with climatology. This is what the left regards as a world community of scientists. LOL!
Even the Brits are getting their foot in.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2...y/
0,2933,3035...
Gore has Michael Moore beat in phony accusations, which calls into question why the Dems didn't send either of them a letter like they did to Limbaugh.
I have never gotten out of an emergency room for less than $500.
Indeed.
About 7 years ago, I went to an ER to get a wound on my leg stitched up. It took less than 10 as I recall.
My insurance company was billed over $500.
I got sick in France once. ("Got sick" probably isn't the right phrase, but the point is, I needed a doctah) and it was fucking fine. In fact, it was no-fuss, no-muss problem fucking solved. I think I paid the guy the equivalent of $15.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 3:37 pm | #
As a kid, I sliced my leg open in Europe while playing in an outdoor cafe. Cost my folks $5 for the cab ride to the hospital.
I want Kentucky to beat Florida.
Oh keeeerist!
More flatulence.
I am wearing leggings, a long sweatshirt and Haflinger clogs. very comfy..not quite jammies, but close.
Texaschilibean | 10.20.07 - 3:40 pm | #
Steers n Queers in Texas. You ain't a steer.
Texaschilibean | 10.20.07 - 3:40 pm | #
You are lucky breathing does not require active thought.
~
I am wearing leggings, a long sweatshirt and Haflinger clogs. very comfy..not quite jammies, but close.
therealhellkitty | 10.20.07 - 3:42 pm | #
Flashdance !
Texaschilibean
Sockpuppet? Parody troll? WTF?
"Zulu", starring Michael Caine is a fine film.
Richard | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 3:37 pm | #
thats Zimbabwe
think more along the line of the Boer War 
"A very remarkable people" Disraeli quipped (apparently Disraeli considered the Zulu war of 1879 as a catastrophic mistake) - "They defeat our generals; they convert our bishops; they have settled the fate of a great European dynasty." The last reference was to the death of the Prince Imperial of France in the Zulu Campaign
in the grand scheme of things Roarkes Drift was a side how but used to salvage pride
Atrios,
I am not sure that Stupid means what you think it does.
I want Kentucky to beat Florida.
MP
and anyone to beat Ohio State.
which calls into question why the Dems didn't send either of them a letter like they did to Limbaugh.
Texaschilibean | 10.20.07 - 3:40 pm | #
Don't you just love that the letter sucked four and a half million dollars out of two conservative assholes?
Send more letters, Harry!
Sockpuppet? Parody troll?
A turd circling down the toilet bowl of failure.
Flashdance !
Gilly Gonzylon |
10.20.07 - 3:43 pm | #
I have a vague memory of that movie...
Whenever I see Stossel, I wish I was an amputee, so I could remove my fake leg and beat him with it. Stupid like that can sometimes be beaten out, though usually, death is the only thing that will really cure it.
It figures that he would be the hero of our very own fartman.
Sockpuppet? Parody troll? WTF?
Jesus X. Crutch | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 3:44 pm | #
Genuine asshole, been here before.
He's like Auggy's slightly less retarded brother...
oh i just wikied, yes Rorkes Drift is in S Africa
my humble apologies, one eye is on the game and the other hear
After a couple of years of hope in the Congo, hell is returning once again. It is very bleak in eastern Congo.
That's an interesting graphic on the cover of Krugman's new book, any interpretations?
steve, i thought you were off to a celebration.
Indeed.
About 7 years ago, I went to an ER to get a wound on my leg stitched up. It took less than 10 as I recall.
My insurance company was billed over $500.
Richard
ERs.... Couple of years ago I managed to pierce one of the big veins on the back of my hand, caught it on a nasty bit of rusty metal on an old bureau. After I remembered Girl Scout 101, and the immediate problem was over with I realised I hadn't had a tetanus shot in well over ten years. The ONLY medical provider of tetatnus shots at the time in all of Phoenix were ER's. No doctors offices, no urgent cares, no County facillities - nothing. So there I sat for four hours, properly last in line, for a tetanus shot that took two minutes and for which my insurance company was billed the cost of a 'visit' and 'treatment' in the ER. Absurd.
.
A turd circling down the toilet bowl of failure.
Richard
Whoa!
Nicely said!
Whenever I see Stossel, I wish I was an amputee, so I could remove my fake leg and beat him with it. Stupid like that can sometimes be beaten out, though usually, death is the only thing that will really cure it.
It figures that he would be the hero of our very own fartman.
Jennifer
Also an inveterate liar.
Watch Jon Stewart thrash Tweety. Best thing I've watched in a long time.
http://www.comedycentral.com/mot...8&
is_large=true
Blackwater is sponsoring a fucking Craftsman truck!
Unfucking believable.
angryspittle
The sports sponsorship equivalent of Nixon's 1973 "Southern Swing" when Watergate was breaking large.
steve, i thought you were off to a celebration.
therealhellkitty | 10.20.07 - 3:47 pm | #
Leaving in five minutes.
Happy Birfday, again, kiddo!!!
thats Zimbabwe
Nope. The battles depicted in the film took place in South Africa..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Bat...e_of_Isandlwana
Something about Stossel though, in particular, makes me want to see him writhing in pain.
He's such a fucking smug bastard, using that slow monotone even as he's spewing out ridiculous nonsense that anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see is bullshit.
"That's an interesting graphic on the cover of Krugman's new book, any interpretations?"
--Jesus X. Crutch
It's a little abstract, but I saw "the conscience of a liberal" (blue arrow) deflecting or burying a wingnut (red arrow).
Goddamn, that last second Kentucky audible was beautiful. 6 points.
Nope. The battles depicted in the film took place in South Africa..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Bat...e_of_Isandlwana
Richard | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 3:49 pm | #
I corrected myself a few posts above
therealhellkitty,
Happy Birthday? If so, may you have many more and enjoy each more than the one before.
therealhellkitty happy birthday
Steve,
You're absolutley right! A stupid republican donated 2.1 million to children of fallen Marines and police officers. The people that put their lives on the line everyday for you and your family. You must be so proud of the smart dems who refuse to to donate anything like Harry Reid. He was pretty quick to take credit for the auction though wasn't he? You're so smart that I am willing to bet that you never contribute to children who's parent's died so that you can walk around safe and stupid either. Way to go dems!
res,
For some reason, I've been unable to access email all day. I'll try tomorrow when I'm back home at my own 'puter.
"Maria Barfilomo made a disparaging reference to non-Merkin health care, ending with 'I wouldn't want to get sick in France'
She's never had the pleasure of convalescing at Walter Reed, I guess.
therealhellkitty, happy birthday from me too!
A turd circling down the toilet bowl of failure.
Richard
I saw earlier where Keith said Rush and Bush were both failed baseball executives, but less poetically than you, Richard, kudos.
Hecate,
Okay, no emergency.
three years ago I had to have my appendix out. The doctor insisted (in th ER) that I have A $5000 CAT scan so they could positively diagnose it as appendicitis. I told him tht they had been diagnosing appendicitis a lot longer than there had been CAT scans and I trusted his judgment that it was. He said, no, gotta have it done. I asked said I'd sign a waiver (the morphene talking) he said "I'd love to not have you do a CAT as you don't have insurance but you do have lawyers". So here I am in the ER
with an appendix about to rupture and they are telling me I have to have an expensive procedure just to diagnose! $13K later I am stillpaying it all off.
Happy Birfday, again, kiddo!!!
steve simels |
Homepage |
10.20.07 - 3:48 pm | #
thank you m'dear, you too
Our pathetic, so-called "elites" are so fucking frighteningly stupid. Does it surprise you after all this time that the people supposedly at the top of the dungheap are the biggest producers of dung?
As whatsisface said, "Some days it's just not worth it chewing through the straps."
You're absolutley right! A stupid republican donated 2.1 million...
Texaschilibean
That he otherwise would have spent on Oxycontin.
Send more letters, Harry, and keep Rush off the hillbilly heroin!!!!!
bye for now
I just want you all to know that given all the methane currently circulating here that I have put out my cigarette.
I suspect that it will clear out once the perp gets ignored for a few minutes.
thank you all for the birfday wishes...I'm spending the day just where I wanted to, right here.
beanhead does emit toxic fumes.
That he otherwise would have spent on Oxycontin.
Or Viagra prescribed in someone else's name for (ahem) "vacation" in the Dominican Republic. Or possibly yet a fourth marriage and eventual divorce.
Don't you just love that the letter sucked four and a half million dollars out of two conservative assholes?
Send more letters, Harry!
steve simels
The whole episode is so telling about right-wing "support of Teh Our Troops". Limbaugh calls the ones who criticize Bush "phony soldiers", then a pair of nitwits find 2 million dollars each in their couch cushions to give to military-related charities, but only because doing so is--in their minds--a big Fuck You to Democrats.
It's good that some kids orphaned by these primitives and their desire to kill brown people in order to make themselves feel macho after some other brown people made them soil their tightie-whities on 9/11, but their tribalistic motivations are contemptible nonetheless.
I just want you all to know that given all the methane currently circulating here that I have put out my cigarette.
I suspect that it will clear out once the perp gets ignored for a few minutes.
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 3:55 pm | #
We're just trying to help your health, Diane.
~
Anyone ever see "The Party" with Peter Sellers? LMAO funny.
I think Blackwater will take every opportunity to even the score since the humiliating, gory Fallujah incident.
Okay, now I'm outta here.
Talk to you all again when I'm a year older...
I'm sorry for our troop losses. The blood is on Bush's hands and all who lied and who voted for him. The Iraq war did not make us safer. It made us far less safe. This is a historical fact and if you deny it you are a liar or an idiot.
steve simels, really you'll only be one day older.
Have a good time and happy birthday in advance.
CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame to be run this Sunday, that Plame "was involved in operations to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."
Good job there, chimpslime, Darth, and Rove.
Is it Groundhog Day?
Every time I come back to this thread, there's an "I'm outta here" post by Simels!
We're just trying to help your health, Diane.
~
ifthethunderdontgetya
And I do appreciate the sentiment.
It's a little abstract, but I saw "the conscience of a liberal" (blue arrow) deflecting or burying a wingnut (red arrow).
mer
Oh, so it's not a cockfight?
Happy 1100th Birthday, Simels!
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CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame to be run this Sunday, that Plame "was involved in operations to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."
Expect Katie "Bernard" Couric to shill for the bad guys again.
CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame to be run this Sunday, that Plame "was involved in operations to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."
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They better check the kerning real good again anyway, just to make sure this time.
CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame to be run this Sunday, that Plame "was involved in operations to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."
Good job there, chimpslime, Darth, and Rove.
Yet another reason they outed her. Bush desperately needs Iran to get to a stage where he can nuke them.
"Oh, so it's not a cockfight?"
--Jesus X. Crutch
It is if you squint your eyes.
Also, you'll notice that the blue cock is larger than the red cock, so the blue cock wins. (Hopefully, sooner rather than later. I'm getting discouraged here.)
Good job there, chimpslime, Darth, and Rove.
JT |
10.20.07 - 4:00 pm | #
I had heard about the nature of her work some time ago..I hope that this really bites them in the balls
Oh, so it's not a cockfight?
This is a patriarchy. It's always a cockfight.
Bush lied? I think what you meant to say was that Bush was advised by 15 different security agency's that there were wmd and chemical warfare in Iraq. Please look up Bill Clinton's Farewell address and read the letter that he wrote to George Bush advising him to go after Sadam because if not stopped he would soon have nuclear missiles capable of attacking U.S. soil. I bet you were never calling for Clinton to be impeached. I think you probably never bother to research anything before you speak. Kinda like Harry Reid. And by the way, swearing in every sentence just shows a lack of education.
Did someone already mention that "maybe David Kennedy is not really a book reviewer"?
I think Blackwater will take every opportunity to even the score since the humiliating, gory Fallujah incident.
MP | 10.20.07
Aw, hell. Don't worry about them. They've already got their next gig lined up.
Yet another reason they outed her. Bush desperately needs Iran to get to a stage where he can nuke them.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I think Rethugs hated the Libby investigation primarily because it brought into sharp focus who really is running this gummint. It was embarassing to them for the public to find out that the VP is the one really calling the shots.
The ads on the left are based on your 'comment profile' and ip demographics.
The ads will get even more sophisticated after the new FISA.
CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame to be run this Sunday, that Plame "was involved in operations to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."
I could have sworn that the original story was that she was involved with WMD in Iraq, has it now changed to Nukes in Iran?
The ads on the left are based on your 'comment profile' and ip demographics.
Um, Catholic Singles, Free Christian Dating and Ann Coulter's Column Free? I don't fucking think so.
Please look up Bill Clinton's Farewell address and read the letter that he wrote...
Please realize that new information became available in the form of U.N. weapons inspectors on the ground in Iraq, after Clinton left office. I realize you're a brain dead propaganda spouter, fartbreath, but that lying point needs to be slapped down every single time some wingtard repeats it.
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Diane C, I read your post on Blackwater a while back...kinda makes one wonder about the motives on the rulers of this country. Is it such a good idea to teach a foreign army the tactics of our military? (even if they are mercenaries) What are they hoping to accomplish?
Aw, hell. Don't worry about them. They've already got their next gig lined up.
Diane C
Why not train the Mexican drug troops, they already train the USian drug stormtroopers.
beanhead does emit toxic fumes.
Being a troll is the only thing he's actually good at. It defines him. He's nothing otherwise.
Sad and bizarre when you think about it.
I'm trying to remember when Bill Clinton said there were operational contacts between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda.
think think think think
there.
i have dusted.
and tidied.
now i want to take a nap.
It is a fantastically beautiful day here in Michigan. The leaves are bursting with color, the sun is bright, and the winds are light and airy. The temps are about perfect - mid sixties now. I was in line at the store this morning and a lady behind me was remarking on the beautiful weather now but on how it was going to change. She then said that she wanted to move to New Zealand. I asked why and she said her son had moved there and was a policeman. Then she said, "The people there aren't all crazy either. Did you know he doesn't even carry a gun?"
And I wondered. Why don't I want to move to New Zealand where the people are not crazy and the policemen do not have to carry guns?
I could have sworn that the original story was that she was involved with WMD in Iraq, has it now changed to Nukes in Iran?
Jesus X. Crutch
those aren't mutually exclusive when your area is "Central Asia"
Diane C, I read your post on Blackwater a while back...kinda makes one wonder about the motives on the rulers of this country. Is it such a good idea to teach a foreign army the tactics of our military? (even if they are mercenaries) What are they hoping to accomplish?
therealhellkitty
First of all, a disclaimer: that gem today came from Ruth, not me. She's been following the news closely.
No, it's not particularly a good idea, I guess, but the whole point is that this administration and the power behind it cares only for the bottom line in any endeavor.
It's a way to make money.
Offer former Seals and Rangers a big bonus to sign on, and then offer services to the US (or, for that matter, any nation in need of thugs) for a premium, and, voila, big bucks.
Ned Lamont reports on his trip to the ME
The Gulf Emirate of Dubai is over the top – “Dubai-est” is the phrase. It contains the world’s fastest growing city (strategically located between the old Western countries and the new Asian tigers), the world’s tallest building (soon to be 151 stories), the world’s biggest indoor ski mountain (with chair lift and Indian ski porters dressed as downhill racers), and the world’s best hotel (not five but seven stars, featuring an underwater restaurant which is accessed by submarine.)
I had heard of that hotel and indoor ski mountain (biggest? there's more than one? sickening), but that restaurant under water.... That bugs me, but is it only in the context of the rest of the wretched excess?
All of this paid for by compensator SUVs of suburbia
CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame to be run this Sunday, that Plame "was involved in operations to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."
I could have sworn that the original story was that she was involved with WMD in Iraq, has it now changed to Nukes in Iran?
Jesus X. Crutch | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:06 pm
The book David Corn helped write, last year, mentioned she was working on the WMD in Iraq, but why not both?
now i want to take a nap.
watertiger | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:12 pm | #
I haven't done anything cleaning, yet again. But I did kick in some dollars to Howard Shanker at FDL.
I need a nap, too.
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Just had a thought:
no. of weekly Rush Limbaugh listeners: 13.5 million
current active duty and reserve soldiers in the US military: 2.5 million
So we know at least 11 million Rush listeners are currently not serving. Rush listeners claim to know the "truth" that everything is puppies and rainbows in Iraq so if just one in ten of Rush's civilian listeners had the stones to enlist we could double the size of the active duty military. Plus, judging from their blogs each one would be the equivalent of like five special forces soldiers.
I could have sworn that the original story was that she was involved with WMD in Iraq, has it now changed to Nukes in Iran?
Jesus X. Crutch
My memory was she was a nuclear proliferation specialist, specifically tracking technology and material exported from the USSR countries
I think it's time for a nap.
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Oil at $90 a barrel. "Mission Accomplished!". Fucking ignorant self-loathing Republican voters are killing the United States and laughing and patting themselves on the back all the way down the drain.
HAHAHAHAHA!
WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani
tried to find peace with a restless bloc of the Republican Party
Saturday, telling religious conservatives not to fear him for his stand
on issues such as abortion or expect he would change purely for
political advantage.
I think it's time for a nap.
I just woke up from one. Perfect nesting day.
Am off to fend off the falling leaves in the soft-wood forests of the coast of Lake Michigan. (Hardwoods don't really grow very well in the dune sand - the trees are mainly conifers and beeches)
Have a lovely afternoon. I will say HI to the Big Lake for all of you. (And anyone from Atlanta or environs: You should see how BIG this motherfucker is! Why a person could drink all they wanted, run their businesses, water their lawns, and never worry about running out! If they were here)
It is a fantastically beautiful day here in Michigan. The leaves are bursting with color, the sun is bright, and the winds are light and airy. The temps are about perfect - mid sixties now. I was in line at the store this morning and a lady behind me was remarking on the beautiful weather now but on how it was going to change. She then said that she wanted to move to New Zealand. I asked why and she said her son had moved there and was a policeman. Then she said, "The people there aren't all crazy either. Did you know he doesn't even carry a gun?"
And I wondered. Why don't I want to move to New Zealand where the people are not crazy and the policemen do not have to carry guns?
DWD - Retiring Soon | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:13 pm
I suspect her son is an officer in a smaller town in NZ, since IIRC, the officers in the major cities carry guns.
NZ isn't perfect, but it's not run by insane morons, either.
Sitting in the bar last night, and they had Faux Spews on one of the TVs. Volume was down, but one of their guests, talking, apparently about the latest piss-your-pants terrorist threat, was some corpulent pusbag from, get this, Pajamas Media. Didn't know they even still existed.
NZ isn't perfect, but it's not run by insane morons, either.
Is it run by hobbits?
Come on, people. We all know that Paul Krugman has the disturbing habit of shaping, slicing and selectively citing numbers in a fashion that pleases his acolytes but leaves him open to substantive assaults.
CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame
Who was probably the greatest and best-looking spy we ever had. And she was burned by the fucking wingnuts.
has it now changed to Nukes in Iran?
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That's what she herself said. When asked if she was passing a hokey nuke design to Tehran so they would build a dud, she said couldn't comment, but that was a good idea.
Have a lovely afternoon. I will say HI to the Big Lake for all of you. (And anyone from Atlanta or environs: You should see how BIG this motherfucker is! Why a person could drink all they wanted, run their businesses, water their lawns, and never worry about running out! If they were here)
DWD - Retiring Soon | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:21 pm |
Oh, it can run out, especially if other states somehow get rights to the water.
(And anyone from Atlanta or environs: You should see how BIG this motherfucker is! Why a person could drink all they wanted, run their businesses, water their lawns, and never worry about running out! If they were here)
DWD -
Don't give them any ideas. I heard Governor Roscoe T Cornpone saying that the drought in Georgia isn't a natural problem, it's a bureaucratic problem (he wants to use the water from some dam that's used for hydroelectric, IIRC, and to protect aquatic life....mussels?)
CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame
So they agree that she was outed? That should explode a few wingnuts' heads.
Not to mention the Canadian rights. You don't get to fuck with our water levels.
We all know...
We all know that in the 90s the US was the only superpower on the planet. A few years of Bush rule later and we are under China's domination. Thanks, GOP moron assholes!
The book David Corn helped write, last year, mentioned she was working on the WMD in Iraq, but why not both?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Indeed, but it seems to me the focus is shifting to Iran in furtherence of the current meme.
I'm having one of "those days." Up, dressed and showered by 8:00
three loads of wash
scrub the kitchen floor & downstairs bathroom
vigil
supermarket
make bread
get beef stew started
good thing most days aren't like this
I saw VP is going on TDS. I hope she does Colbert (not in a dirty way...get your minds out of the gutter). That could be a great interview.
good thing most days aren't like this
ql optimist
I got exausted just reading that list.
Raw Story has great video of Bill Maher kicking a 911 Truther/Nutjob out of his audience...literally. I really hate these crackpots--they give people in the anitwar movement a bad name, though most seem to be Pat Buchanan-style conservatives of the Anti-New World variety.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Bi...y_911_1020.html
Water levels are down dramatically on the Great Lakes. It's not a limitless resource all that fresh water. I do have to chuckle a tiny bit when folks quite reasonably object to plans to truck that water westward. Everyday our breweries do just that...
CIA agent Valerie Plame
Who was probably the greatest and best-looking spy we ever had.
I HAVE A DATE WITH HER IN 8 DAYS!
good thing most days aren't like this
sounded like my weekend last week.
Read it and weep, British fops. You have the aging James Bond while we have Valerie.
Lime Rickey
Emma Peel.
:-P
Read it and weep, British fops. You have the aging James Bond while we have Valerie.
They had Emma Peel.
NZ isn't perfect, but it's not run by insane morons, either.
Is it run by hobbits?
NTodd, Cupcake-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:22 p
And elves.
I got exausted just reading that list.
I have a list like that around here somewhere...
Have a drink, JR.
I HAVE A DATE WITH HER IN 8 DAYS!
NTodd, Cupcake-American
Let us know her secret desires.
Buckeyes up 17-0 over Michigan State and looking good.
Let us know her secret desires.
I don't kiss and tell.
Have a drink, JR.
spinoza
Now that you mention it....
ql, that's ok, my cat woke me up at 6AM thinking that I was going to be late for work. They have no concept of weekends.
I cleaned house last weekend and probably won't do so again for a while. It was exhausting.
I don't kiss and tell.
NTodd, Cupcake-American
You can't tell without the kiss, can you?
HICA!
I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's!
Hey, I have Arby's coupons.
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Actually, as I recall, Ms. Plame was working on a project involving Iran and the development of nuclear weapons.
Now, I'm old, but my mid-term memory is still pretty good. This is old news.
Except now it's pertinent news.
Which means it's going to be fun watching the VP's minions squirm a little after that article hits.
I should make bread.
I keep rummaging around the kitchen for something to eat and nothing seems to strike my fancy. I think what I'm looking for is a cupcake. Now why would that be?
I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's!
5 for 5 and a gallon of bar-b-q sauce!
Water levels are down dramatically on the Great Lakes. It's not a limitless resource all that fresh water. I do have to chuckle a tiny bit when folks quite reasonably object to plans to truck that water westward. Everyday our breweries do just that...
noblejoanie | 10.20.07 - 4:26 pm
A one-time gift from the glaciers.
My current view of the Atlanta gov't and their water problems is: too bad. You didn't plan, you didn't seem to encourage anyone else to plan, or to stop wasting the water. so don't expect Great Lakes water as a reward for your stupidity (Not that I've heard that's what they're doing, but you know it's in someone's mind: why should we conserve when there's all that water right there).
"I'll talk, Valerie. Just don't lick me again."
I keep rummaging around the kitchen for something to eat and nothing
seems to strike my fancy. I think what I'm looking for is a cupcake.
Now why would that be?
noblejoanie |
10.20.07 - 4:31 pm | #
try some organic peanut butter on a spoon. most other substrates render it difficult to eat.
I'm so hungry, I could eat at Arby's!
Hey, I have Arby's coupons.
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:30 pm | #
Arby's is better than Taco Bell, isn't it? I think of Taco Bell as the worst, period.
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My current view of the Atlanta gov't and their water problems is: too bad. You didn't plan,
It is not that there is not enough water. It is that there are too many people.
ry some organic peanut butter on a spoon. most other substrates render it difficult to eat.
therealhellkitty
Used to do that and stick a couple chocolate chips in for flayvah.
Did I hear mention of a birthday, btw?
even the thought of taco bell makes my throat close up.
I love Arby's.
I'm brewing up a Taco Bell crap as we "speak".
Did I hear mention of a birthday, btw?
noblejoanie |
10.20.07 - 4:34 pm | #
yes, #47. the kids I work with find it hard to believe.
ifthethunderdontgetya: Arby's is better than Taco Bell, isn't it? I think of Taco Bell as the worst, period.
I think of Krystal or White Castle as the worst -- won't even eat that stuff. McD's is almost as bad, except for breakfast.
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What do they need water for in Georgia? Let them drink sweet tea.
Arby's is better than Taco Bell, isn't it? I think of Taco Bell as the worst, period.
tastee freeze.
It is not that there is not enough water. It is that there are too many people.
Hecate
Exactly.
And, Atrios's pooh-poohing of the warnings aside, water is going to be a major issue in the next 20 years.
It's already brewing in California, and water wars will no longer be an historical footnote.
Happy Birthday, therealhellkitty--I can almost recall that age!
JP you will agree that a #1 Sonic burger is a worthy meal?
Oh, hey! It's nice and warm. Maybe I'll go get a Fat Mo's!
They only have picnic tables, outside, since the building is a pre-fab trailer-like affair.
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Since Plame was involved in both Iraq and Iran how convenient to get her out of the way with all her facts and stuff.
My current view of the Atlanta gov't and their water problems is: too bad. You didn't plan,
It is not that there is not enough water. It is that there are too many people.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:34 pm
To me, it's both. They've doubled their population in the last 20 years, without planning water resources very well, and now they're 26+ inches below normal rainfall.
Oops.
therealhellkitty: JP you will agree that a #1 Sonic burger is a worthy meal?
Naw. I'm not much on Sonic, except for their onion rings and peanut butter shakes.
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thank you noblejoanie, it has been a very pleasant day getting to visit with you all. Don't forget that Jenny from the Blog and Simels both have birthdays about now too.
The only burger joint I'll eat at is Harvey's.
It's already brewing in California, and water wars will no longer be an historical footnote.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
The fence is already being built at the border of California's Canada.
It is not that there is not enough water. It is that there are too many people.
Hecate
Goddess love him, Paul Ehrlich has been saying this for years. All of our problems stem from their being too many of us, and too many of us superconsumers of resources. For too long, we've acted like the well could never run dry.
The wars over diminishing resources, among them water, will be our children's future, I fear.
Jebus. I think I learned about Keynesian economics in the first week of Econ 101, and I still remember it 20 years later.
It's really not that hard. For example, I also remember that the moon is made of rock, and not green cheese. Also, Shakespeare wrote a number of plays including "Hamlet" and "MacBeth".
now if you are from California, the only place to have a burger is Knowlwoods...absolutely excellent!
What do they need water for in Georgia? Let them drink sweet tea.
Isn't that where they make the coca cola?
...I'm brewing up a Taco Bell crap...
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I'm still mulling this over and wondering if it's Too Much Information.
I have heard it said that you don't buy Taco Bell food; you only rent it. 
I have heard it said that you don't buy Taco Bell food; you only rent it.
74 Visitors Online |
10.20.07 - 4:41 pm | #
Taco Bell food reminds us of the wonders of polymerization.
Jebus. I think I learned about Keynesian economics in the first week of Econ 101, and I still remember it 20 years later.
Cons never take any advanced courses, do they?
$90 a barrel oil is making Bush/Cheney rich(er) and killing America. Go free market!
fuck England are going to loose
fuck fuck fuck fuck
featuring an underwater restaurant which is accessed by submarine
I think that if Irwin Allen was still alive, he'd construct a disaster movie around it.
we almost had a try but some fucking Aussie video ref didn't give it even though he should of
its a pretty fucking awful way to loose, on penalties
fuck!!!!!!
For the budget minded, Wendy's 99 cent Jr. Bacon Cheezeburger is a good deal.
NTodd can have Valerie.
I'll take Joe and offer to be tortured with his uhm, what Lime Rickey said
I think that if Irwin Allen was still alive, he'd construct a disaster movie around it.
Richard |
Maybe we can have Rehnquist pass the idea along?
tastee freeze.
is people
still England have done well to get to the final despite our limited play
Richard has the slanties!
$90 a barrel oil is making Bush/Cheney rich(er) and killing America. Go free market!
lipreader
To be fair, the ol' coffers are down to 20 million and some change.
My current view of the Atlanta gov't and their water problems is: too bad. You didn't plan,
I don't care how well you plan -- you go 18 months with only about 50% of normal rainfall, you're going to be hurting.
we're been darn unlucky in this game, i mean our tactics were correct but we didn't score the points we should of done
if we had got the try we of done better
if in doubt, go with the attacking side, its the rule
I'll take Joe and offer to be tortured with his uhm, what Lime Rickey said
ql optimist |
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10.20.07 - 4:45 pm | #
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Some trools just don't take hints, do they?
My current view of the Atlanta gov't and their water problems is: too bad. You didn't plan,
Easy to say, but when people start dying and millions are displaced I dare say we will all support any and all efforts at helping them out.
fuck England are going to loose
fuck fuck fuck fuck
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier
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I thought it was just a bygone cultural stereotype, but it's true: you English are so quiet, understated, and reserved!
AmLit is all crap. Use all Irish writers and pretend they're American. You won't regret it.
Thers, Last Ethical Man | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 2:50 pm | #
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Fuckin' A. And you can run the class from the pub. "The classical American tale, Waiting for Godot, .... "
Richard has the slanties!
No. You're tilting your head.
will you share?
therealhellkitty
It'll be my birthday present to you.
(Just for a little though)
The fence is already being built at the border of California's Canada.
ErinPDX, L & R-brained
Erin, it's not only about the grass-watering, sidewalk-washing assholes in SoCal stealing your water, it's also about Fresno and the Central Valley of California needing water to grow the crops to feed the western third of the US.
Things are gonna get ugly when that finally hits, and it will, sooner rather than later.
don't care how well you plan -- you go 18 months with only about 50% of normal rainfall, you're going to be hurting.
Unless you control your species based upon your knowledge that such droughts do happen from time to time. But that would take forethought, and discipline, and the ability to think. I really despair of humanity sometimes.
Easy to say, but when people start dying and millions are displaced I dare say we will all support any and all efforts at helping them out.
Where's Michael Browne?
England have lost to S Africa
The only burger joint I'll eat at is Harvey's.
I always liked their burgers.
Isn't that where they make the coca cola?
JeffCO
I think they're responsible for the syrup, which contains no organic ingredients.
I think England's losing.
And coke is made in Atlanta.
And there's this great brass band called "The Hypnotic Brass Ensemble" or something.
Isn't that where they make the coca cola?
JeffCO | 10.20.07 - 4:41 pm | #
There's a rest stop on the 75 in Valdosta with free Coca Cola on tap. As a kid, I was mesmerized at this.
My current view of the Atlanta gov't and their water problems is: too bad. You didn't plan,
I don't care how well you plan -- you go 18 months with only about 50% of normal rainfall, you're going to be hurting.
Toonscribe | 10.20.07 - 4:46 pm
This is true, but they really didn't seem to be paying attention.
i think i need to drown my sorrows in another glass of wine
Wow.
That was some bullshit review. I guess we can all guess how Kennedy tends to vote.
What a colossal asshat.
fuck it, I'm going to nap, too.
England have lost to S Africa
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:49 pm | #
Nkosi, sikelel' iAfrika;
Malupakam'upondo lwayo;
Yiva imitandazo yetu
Usisikelele.
I think England's losing.
And coke is made in Atlanta.
And there's this great brass band called "The Hypnotic Brass Ensemble" or something.
watertiger
Hazzah! All the answers to the morning's questions that I missed.
Will there be a quiz?
Unless you control your species based upon your knowledge that such droughts do happen from time to time. But that would take forethought, and discipline, and the ability to think. I really despair of humanity sometimes.
I despair ALL the time.
In these times of shrinking resources, we actually have americans preaching against birth control.
It's psychotic.
Read it and weep, British fops. You have the aging James Bond while we have Valerie.
They had Emma Peel.
spinoza Neque lugare, neque in
http://thumbsnap.com/v/0oUAdC3J.jpg
thank you ql, that's very nice of you
That was some bullshit review. I guess we can all guess how Kennedy tends to vote.
I checked OpenSecrets. 2,300 to Obama, $250 to Arthur Wu.
I'm thinking Reasonable Liberal With Broderist Tendencies.
This is true, but they really didn't seem to be paying attention.
Well, it's hard to anticipate that you'd be facing worst drought in a hundred years.
My current view of the Atlanta gov't and their water problems is: too bad. You didn't plan,
Easy to say, but when people start dying and millions are displaced I dare say we will all support any and all efforts at helping them out.
ql optimist | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:48 pm
Yes, but I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about a major American City (well, all of them really) who don't lead their citizens in terms of planning for water shortages and for weaning people from wasting all that water.
Throw in the mining of the aquafers, which are not being refreshed at anything close to that rate. The wheat and corn fields of the plains will soon be either dried up because the Oglalla is too deep to pump or will be too saline from the evaporites that the water contains.
In Arizona, huge cracks and sink holes are opening because of sub-surface subsidence due to water mining.
Fun times are coming, kids... And I celebrated the first Earth Day and remember ZPG very well. Doubling times may not be good science, but the concept still works to consider when we will recognize we're too crowded. If the population doubles every 35 years, and the earth gets to 100% of the load it can bear - how long before that point will we see it for what it is? Since it takes a large number of years to bring about ZPG how likely is it that we'll believe it in time?
we really should of been awarded that try.
curses to the Aussie video ref
AmLit is all crap. Use all Irish writers and pretend they're American. You won't regret it.
Also, I have it on good authority that studying Irish Lit will make your dick grow large.
This is true, but they really didn't seem to be paying attention.
Well, it's hard to anticipate that you'd be facing worst drought in a hundred years.
Richard | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:53 pm
No, actually I'm not that buying that. Droughts do not happen overnight.
In these times of shrinking resources, we actually have americans preaching against birth control.
And yet we always react happily when we hear that someone has a new child or grandchild. There are no easy answers.
atablarasa | 10.20.07 - 4:53 pm | #
But, but, there's a man in the sky with a beard and global warming don't exists and you can't burn the flag and look over there, something shiny !
After reading this series of outbursts, I can only pray that Moonbootica will drown her sorrows and quietly remain indoors.
Because she seems quite capable of working herself up into a mean drunken stupor, taking to the streets with the other hooligans, and rampaging away the night!
Who'd have thought it?
Ahoy! Back from Highway 61.
I checked OpenSecrets. 2,300 to Obama, $250 to Arthur Wu.
I'm thinking Reasonable Liberal With Broderist Tendencies.
Ah, well, you might be right.
Fuck the reasonable liberals of the world. They're all hanging about, wringing their hands in horror at the loss of civility while everything goes to hell in a handbasket around them.
Also, I have it on good authority that studying Irish Lit will make your dick grow large.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:54 pm | #
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!
once we were 9 points down we were fucked
Well, it's hard to anticipate that you'd be facing worst drought in a hundred years.
Richard | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:53 pm
No, actually I'm not that buying that. Droughts do not happen overnight.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I'm with Hecate on this.
It's not a matter of just droughts.
It's a matter of too many people on too little land with too little water.
Period.
Richard has the slanties!
No. You're tilting your head.
I'll have to remember that one.
we really should of been awarded that try.
curses to the Aussie video ref
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:53 pm | #
Take that you colonialist oppressors!
And yet we always react happily when we hear that someone has a new child or grandchild. There are no easy answers.
I'm not saying no one should have children, I'm raging against the Duggars of the world and the fundies who insist on having 5 or 6 kids.
I'll have to remember that one.
Holden will rue the day...
It's a matter of too many people on too little land with too little water.
Wanting green grass and clean cars.
why do they let convicts to the referring?
Even more KITTEHS!
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Well, it's hard to anticipate that you'd be facing worst drought in a hundred years.
What you can do is realize that every hundred years or so, a really bad drought comes along. We now have records that let us realize stuff like this. And, knowing that, it would be prudent to keep our population low enough that, even during such droughts, we can get through it w/o suffering.
When you read Collapse by Diamond, over and over you see primitive people who overpopulated their environment during periods of, say, abundant rain, only to die off when the inevitable dry spell came along. That was understandable, as they lacked the kinds of records we now have. Why we still act as if this planet can over carry its load is a mystery to me.
Moon seems a bit upset.
Why we still act as if this planet can over carry its load is a mystery to me.
Everyone always thinks it's someone elses problem.
why do they let convicts to the referring?
Hey now...
No, actually I'm not that buying that. Droughts do not happen overnight.
No, but I doubt that anyone was thinking 18 months ago that the drought would still be going now.
Perhaps they should plan for a Sahara desert scenario and move everyone out forever, just to be on the safe side.
actually i'm more upset than my dad, but then he sez its because i iz young
"Not Really An Economist"
Perhaps not, but a really clear thinker.
I better go before I say something I'll regret
ciao gonna get drunk
why do they let convicts to the referring?
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:58 pm |
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that's too funny.
A long time ago, I had a sociology professor who made the point if we all waited to have kids until our thirties, we'd effectively skip almost a generation of people, and if we all limited ourselves to two or less kids, so much the better.
We could either intelligently plan to limit our numbers and reduce our footprint or live with the consequences of unchecked growth and greed. I'm afraid we've opted for the latter.
moon, i was kidding! come back!
Is the Queen fighting Thom Yorke? Or....
Perhaps they should plan for a Sahara desert scenario and move everyone out forever, just to be on the safe side.
Richard
They can blame Michael Vick.
And yet we always react happily when we hear that someone has a new child or grandchild. There are no easy answers.
No, there are no easy answers. But that doesn't excuse us from trying to find them. It's "easy" in one sense to overpopulate and then allow massive die-downs, with all the attendant suffering, but I'd sure like to think that we're smarter than that.
And yet we always react happily when we hear that someone has a new child or grandchild. There are no easy answers.
Toonscribe
Yup. I for one would not want to tell people they can't have kids if they want them. Not even the Duggers, it's far too invasive. However, we could try and start some sort societal frowning.
Atlanta was developed like a malignant tumor, and existing infrastructure was tapped far beyond its capacity.
Most depressing is the utter lack of thoughtful planning for possible eventualities.
why do they let convicts to the referring?
Here in the US we let them run the government.
oh alright
i love you guys too much
It's a matter of too many people on too little land with too little water.
Wanting green grass and clean cars.
pie | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:58 pm
And gardens and clean sidewalks, etc.
And who don't make sacrifices to get these things, who will plant grass where it's not supposed to be, and aren't encouraged to build water retention systems for their homes.
"Not Really An Economist"
Perhaps not, but a really clear thinker.
plantsman, areligious
And honest. Oh, and an economist.
Fat Mo's sounds better than Arby's, coupon or no. Then, maybe a scoot down to Brewhouse West for a social beer or three.
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We North Americans are not breeding ourselves out of existence, our society is too developed for that.
but I'd sure like to think that we're smarter than that.
I regret to inform you....
Perhaps they should plan for a Sahara desert scenario and move everyone out forever, just to be on the safe side.
Or, perhaps that strawman isn't the only answer. Perhaps we could limit population nationwide to a size that could get through historically predictable droughts.
The review in question in fact says perhaps Krugman not a economist according to a definition (and it is a stupid and useless one) used by some earlier pundit, who believes that unless you accept the free market (no govt regulations), then you are not a real economist. That sure cuts out anyone not fitting the pre-designed official designiation of economist. The problem, then, is that the reviewer was not sufficiently clear and gave the impression of agreeing with the silly definition. ps Galbraith was also not considered a "real" economist!
Not even the Duggers
They're ridiculous.
Also, I have it on good authority that studying Irish Lit will make your dick grow large.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
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That's apocryphal. Like all myths and legends, it's, um, rooted in fact. Beginning in the 20th Century, there have been reported cases of male Irish Lit scholars suffering from permanently flattened penises due to hour upon hour of simultaneously holding Joyce tomes, notebooks, reference materials, and even food and beverages on their laps.
Photographs in old medical journals reveal penises of apparently increased "size", though depending on the state of arousal, they either resemble one-eyed flounders or one-eyed blowfish. Tragic, really.
"gardens" of any kind require less water and maintenance than lawns.
A fuller and more nuanced story might at least gesture toward the role that environmental and natural-resource issues have played in making red-state country out of the interior West, not to mention the unsettling effects of the “value issues” on voters well beyond Dixie.
Yup, 'twas those damned outside agitatin' enviro-mentalists made the West conservative! Afore that it was all fern bars and literary salons! And racism had nothing to do with the South leaving the Democratic Party! Nosirree! It was the DFH's in Berkeley!
Or were they in New York City? Why, the NYTimes is published in New York City! It's a conspiracy!
the New Zealanders will hate S Africa winning the rugby world cup more than us
its the old tri national rivalry, souther hemisphere
I for one would not want to tell people they can't have kids if they want them. Not even the Duggers, it's far too invasive.
Okay, I'll tell them.
Seriously though, one of the things the wingers always squawk about is the low birth rate in Japan and Europe. They sneer that Europe is dying.
And I can't tell you the comments I've gotten over the years because I decided not to reproduce. Like there's something fucking wrong with me.
I'm not saying no one should have children, I'm raging against the Duggars of the world and the fundies who insist on having 5 or 6 kids.
Well, if the current problem is too many people, then just replacement numbers of children from one generation to the next is no solution.
It occurs to me every now and then, that the earth could have another world-wide plague like the Black Death that would kill 25% to 40% (the ranges I've read for the BD in Europe) of the population and there would still be more people alive today than were alive when I was born 56 years ago. Hecate is right -- the populsation can't keep on this way, but what might happen to correct the problem is too horrible to contemplate. The Rapture would at least help some.
"gardens" of any kind require less water and maintenance than lawns.
plantsman, areligious
Even octopuses gardens in the shade?
JK Galbraith, btw, is not a "real" economist.
No, actually I'm not that buying that. Droughts do not happen overnight.
No, but I doubt that anyone was thinking 18 months ago that the drought would still be going now.
Perhaps they should plan for a Sahara desert scenario and move everyone out forever, just to be on the safe side.
Richard | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 4:59 pm
Mmm, there is a middle to this, you know.
Yes, they should plan for a desert scenario, in terms of water usage.
Just.In.Case. It's their job.
Perhaps we could limit population nationwide to a size that could get through historically predictable droughts.
That's not a hell of lot different than what I just suggested.
still unlike Footie fans, when England loose we don't go punch up the others fans (well not straight after the game anyhow)
t occurs to me every now and then, that the earth could have another world-wide plague like the Black Death that would kill 25% to 40% (the ranges I've read for the BD in Europe) of the population and there would still be more people alive today than were alive when I was born 56 years ago. Hecate is right -- the populsation can't keep on this way, but what might happen to correct the problem is too horrible to contemplate. The Rapture would at least help some.
Toonscribe | 10.20.07 - 5:06 pm | #
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. - Nine athletes and a coach at Iona College contracted an antibiotic-resistant staph infection, which has spread through schools nationwide, health officials said Friday.
Bush is working on the population problem.
And I can't tell you the comments I've gotten over the years because I decided not to reproduce. Like there's something fucking wrong with me.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
It's nobody's business.
why do they let convicts to the referring?
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier
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Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark!
the next Rugby World Cup is being held in New Zealand
it was supposed to being of held in Japan, but somehow it got moved to New Zealand
old rugby nations still having a stranglehold
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. - Nine athletes and a coach at Iona College contracted an antibiotic-resistant staph infection, which has spread through schools nationwide, health officials said Friday.
Uh oh.
when England loose we don't go punch up the others fans (well not straight after the game anyhow)
Naw, gotta get fookin' drunk first!
still unlike Footie fans, when England loose we don't go punch up the others fans (well not straight after the game anyhow)
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier
That's because you'd get your bloody arses kicked.
Bush is working on the population problem.
lipreader
He and Laura didn't do their share.
FWIW, "lose" is the most difficult 4 letter word to spell on the entire innertubes.
My beautiful, beautiful gurlz
In high resolution.
The Rugby World Cup is being marketed relentlessly by Comcast pay-per-view, and all the teams mentioned are British descendants.
don't care how well you plan -- you go 18 months with only about 50% of normal rainfall, you're going to be hurting.
Unless you control your species based upon your knowledge that such droughts do happen from time to time.
Pretty much the point of Jared Diamond's Collapse...
i think it was someone who said Rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen
Bush is working on the population problem.
lipreader
He and Laura didn't do their share.
Terry C - Edwards/Kucinich 08
Jenna has sopped up her share of seed though.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/
2007...referendum.html
Turkish referendum
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007...-on-
sunday.html
Poland and switzerland-elections
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2007.../10/
panama.html
GWB is meantioning Panama- I dont know what 4 (noh really)
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. - Nine athletes and a coach at Iona College contracted an antibiotic-resistant staph infection, which has spread through schools nationwide, health officials said Friday.
It's time to pretty much outlaw antibiotics before this gets out of hand.
FWIW, "lose" is the most difficult 4 letter word to spell on the entire innertubes.
lipreader
Particularly after you've 'ad a few.
It's time to pretty much outlaw antibiotics before this gets out of hand.
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U?
One way or the other, we're going back to the 19th century.
I actually do think humanity is heading for some sort of cataclysmic die-off.
It occurs to me every now and then, that the earth could have another world-wide plague like the Black Death that would kill 25% to 40%
Enter...drug-resistant staph.
It's out of hand.
One way or the other, we're going back to the 19th century.
I think you are correct.
GWB is meantioning Panama- I dont know what 4 (noh really)
ccokz | 10.20.07 - 5:11 pm | #
Cuz it's a kick as Van Halen song !
South Africa ended England's reign as world champions in Paris as they claimed their second World Cup victory.
Three Percy Montgomery penalties to one from Jonny Wilkinson saw South Africa, who had hammered England in the group stages, lead 9-3 at the break.
A penalty apiece made it 12-6 before Francois Steyn edged the Boks further ahead with a long-range penalty.
England went desperately close to a try through Mark Cueto but South Africa held out to match their 1995 triumph.
It had been a remarkable run to the final for England, who went into the tournament woefully short of form.
They were humiliated in the group game against the Boks less than six weeks ago and although they finally found some form to reach the final, it was a bridge too far against a superior South Africa side.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/...ion/
7052822.stm
still I think we're done pretty well considered how crap we have been playing
yah I'm cooling down now, still sad but less furious
One way or the other, we're going back to the 19th century.
Living history! Better than a time machine...
i think it was someone who said Rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier
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They ought to call it "thugby", then!
FDL is doing a book salon with Krugman right now:
http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/...ugman/
#comments
Bush is working on the population problem.
lipreader
He and Laura didn't do their share.
Terry C - Edwards/Kucinich 08
Laura killed her boyfriend. Her husband has killed somewhere upwards of 1,000,000.
In high resolution.
Beautiful pics!
Why are people so freaked about ordinary germs that have been around for a gazillion years?
Can't people just use ordinary soap and water?
Enter...drug-resistant staph.
NTodd, Cupcake-American | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 5:13 pm | #
Coke me, you crazy Vermonter!
One way or the other, we're going back to the 19th century.
NTodd can be Napoleon!
One of the trends in the school budgets I analyze is the continual cutting of custodial help. Very little real cleaning occurs in most schools. Custodians mostly just empty the trash and vacuum a couple of times a week. No disinfecting at all. Most budgets I've looked at spend less on custodial help now than they did 20 years ago - in real dollars not even adjusted for inflation. Employee costs usually top 70% of a district's budget so they cut people to pay for all of the testing and remediation.
That's a significant contributer to school infections.
Methicillin-resistant Staph. aureus is a new development.
NTodd can be Napoleon!
spinoza, non ridere, non luger | 10.20.07 - 5:15 pm | #
Napoleon's penis resembled a seahorse.
Good evening, folks.
Despite its industrial past, Bradford has been named Britain's greenest city.
The Sustainable Cities Index ranked the 20 largest cities according to three criteria and judged Bradford best in terms of environmental impact.
Brighton and Hove topped the other two areas - quality of life and progress towards a more sustainable future.
Liverpool was rated the least sustainable city overall, while Hull had the lowest quality of life and Wolverhampton was the least green.
Bradford played a key role in the Industrial Revolution and was home to many of Britain's biggest and most polluting textile mills.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/70.../uk/
7054310.stm
Krugman is over at FDL now!!!
That's not a hell of lot different than what I just suggested.
I obviously misunderstood you, then. I think there's a large middle ground between limiting our population to a reasonable level and what you proposed, but maybe I misread what you said.
"Thank you, sir - may we have another?"
http://www.thecenterstrikesback.com/
Can't people just use ordinary soap and water?
Works fine until you actually get infected. Just having the staph bacteria on your skin is not an infection -- we're all pretty much covered with some kind of staph all the time. It's when it gets from the skin into the bloodstream that you may or may not have a deadly serious problem. Decent hygiene is still the first, best line of defense.
Dude, you're going to Hull!
Works fine until you actually get infected. Just having the staph bacteria on your skin is not an infection -- we're all pretty much covered with some kind of staph all the time. It's when it gets from the skin into the bloodstream that you may or may not have a deadly serious problem. Decent hygiene is still the first, best line of defense.
Toonscribe | 10.20.07 - 5:17 pm | #
Dr Bronner rulez! Dilute! Dilute!
BTW, hasn't Duncan Black been Age:35 for a couple of years now on the 'contact information'?
Dude, you're going to Hull!
plantsman, areligious
I'm on the Highway to Hull
Mmm, there is a middle to this, you know.
You're suggesting that they should plan for the worst, and then you talk about a middle.
If we take this to its logical extreme, then yes, as Hecate suggested, we should have population control. For starters, I'd say about 25 million people should probably be moved out of California.
Well, that might not be a bad idea. I don't how the hell you'd accomplish it though.
Back to roofing the barn. Joy. See youse l8r.
A mission could be launched before the end of the next decade to put a balloon on Titan, the hazy Saturnian moon.
The balloon is one of several ideas being considered by the European Space Agency as it sketches out where its science should be focussed in future.
Other proposals include an X-ray telescope that flies in two parts; and a sample-return mission to an asteroid.
All the ideas will be subjected to further study; and are likely to evolve as international partners get involved.
Eventually, two missions will be selected, one to fly no earlier than 2017 and the other no earlier than 2018.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/scien...ure/
7053057.stm
BTW, hasn't Duncan Black been Age:35 for a couple of years now on the 'contact information'?
He's not that great with numbers.
BTW, hasn't Duncan Black been Age:35 for a couple of years now on the 'contact information'?
I've been thirty-five for five years.
BTW, hasn't Duncan Black been Age:35 for a couple of years now on the 'contact information'?
Nope. He changed it from 34 at his last birthday, in fact.
The acting manager of the independent Somali radio station, Shabelle, has been killed in Mogadishu.
Bashir Nor Gedi was attacked on Friday night outside his home by unknown militia armed with pistols, station employees and relatives said.
Last month, Bashir and 18 colleagues were arrested and questioned for hours by government soldiers.
The same month, government troops besieged and fired on the station and ordered Shabelle to stop broadcasting.
After a two-week closure, the station resumed broadcasts on 3 October.
Bashir Nor Gedi, also a well-known businessman, was about few metres outside his home in the Hamar Jadid neighbourhood in the south of the city, when four men shot him three times in the head and the chest.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/afric...ica/
7054091.stm
Works fine until you actually get infected. Just having the staph bacteria on your skin is not an infection -- we're all pretty much covered with some kind of staph all the time.
Sorry, that wasn't my point.
I know all that- I'm just railing against the proliferation of anti-bacterial soaps and hand sanitizers.
And the over prescribing of antibiotics.
I'll be 35 in three years
Nope. The birthday thing is part of the blogger template. Updates it every year.
Oh, and HAHA RUDY THEY HATE YOU!
For starters, I'd say about 25 million people should probably be moved out of California.
And for dog's sake don't move 'em to Atlanta.
Frost family is refusing to back down. I'm sure Pelosi and Reid will begin criticizing them soon.
cosmosis
I think that Frost should do what is right and just apologize to the American public for surviving and wasting our valuable resources.
Oh, and HAHA RUDY THEY HATE YOU!
McCain too.
heh heh
BTW, hasn't Duncan Black been Age:35 for a couple of years now on the 'contact information'?
Troutski
No, he updates it every year. It's scary to think he had the smarts to start this thing up and maintain it all these years and make a living at it. Especially when you consider all the personalities and the strength of their convictions.
Still he is stupid for renting.
And for dog's sake don't move 'em to Atlanta.
How many people would be able to fit on 1600 acres?
I know all that- I'm just railing against the proliferation of anti-bacterial soaps and hand sanitizers.
And the over prescribing of antibiotics.
I'm with you on that. I've been railing about that for years.
BTW, hasn't Duncan Black been Age:35 for a couple of years now on the 'contact information'?
Troutski
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It's all part of cultivating that "Jack Benny" persona of his.
Oh, and HAHA RUDY THEY HATE YOU!
He'll win them over by promising to kill abortionists and putting gays in Teh Camps.
we should have population control. For starters, I'd say about 25 million people should probably be moved out of California.
Where I'd start would be with real sex education and with free, safe, effective birth control. I'd start a campaign to convince people to have no more than one child. Look at what MADD has accomplished in a short time on drunk driving. I'd provide superior education in all areas (math, science, reading, etc.) for girls, as that's been shown to be a surefire way to get the birthrate down. Intense education from kindergarten on about ecology and the need to care for the Earth.
Beyond that, you move into somewhat more coercive areas. Taxing extra children, Paying men large sums in exchange for vasectomies (considered coercive since poor aka minority men are more likely to need to take that deal). Forced sterilization after a second child, etc, etc.
We don't know if the coercive measures are needed because we've never given the first set of measures a serious, sustained, well-funded try.
I'm sick of fucking "Values voters". Just because they say they care about "values" doesn't mean they are anything but evil fuckwits.
They don't hold to the values they claim to espouse to begin with. Enough of them and anyone who pays attention to them.
And for dog's sake don't move 'em to Atlanta.
Down to 90 days supply of water in their main resevoir......looks like they'll have to drink and bathe in beer...if it doesn't rain soon.
You know I've be more worried about the USA invading Saudi when it goes down the tube
rather than Iran
because the way Saudi is set up is not very stable
How many people would be able to fit on 1600 acres?
Let's start with Andersonville and then extrapolate...
I'm sick of fucking "Values voters". Just because they say they care about "values" doesn't mean they are anything but evil fuckwits.
They don't hold to the values they claim to espouse to begin with. Enough of them and anyone who pays attention to them.
lipreader | 10.20.07 - 5:28 pm | #
Legislating morality is retarded.
Down to 90 days supply of water in their main resevoir......looks like they'll have to drink and bathe in beer...if it doesn't rain soon.
Shared Humanity | 10.20.07 - 5:28 pm | #
There's always Skoal spit.
in a couple of years Saudi will be engulfed in rebellion and American will be forced to invade
everyone is worrying about Iran, but IMHO is Saudi and Pakistan who are the real concerns
Paulie saying he's seeing results from netroot pushback on his colleagues.
One could make a case for invading Saudi Arabia. Not a good one, but a fucking sight better than Iraq.
Hey, Atrios, Glenn's speaking of the Devil!
I just looked at Lenny Kravitz's duplex in Manhattan. An uncool $17 Million.
I think I'll pass.
Paulie saying he's seeing results from netroot pushback on his colleagues.
JeffCO
Ron Paul?
uh Forced sterilization?
Let's start with Andersonville and then extrapolate...
Okay, if you throw in Elmira.
Ron Paul?
Krugman, over at fdl.
I just looked at Lenny Kravitz's duplex in Manhattan. An uncool $17 Million.
I think I'll pass.
Zap Rowsdower
I recommend you marry Lisa Bonet
uh Forced sterilization?
Certainly one of the most intrusive measures and not one that I'd favor. As I said, we've no idea if the intrusive measures are even needed.
I just looked at Lenny Kravitz's duplex in Manhattan. An uncool $17 Million.
I think I'll pass.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 5:31 pm | #
Where is it located ? I'm guessing SoHo
Paul McCartney
Peter, paul and Mary?
Strange to follow comments on two sites simultaneously: here, and Krugman at FDL.
It's all part of cultivating that "Jack Benny" persona of his.
I forgot - who's supposed to be doing the comic black servant this month?
uh Forced sterilization?
Yeah, I'm with you up to there, Goddess. Forcing women NOT to have children is just as bad as the Fundies trying to force us to have them. Strongly encouraging them to seriously consider not having more than two children, however, is a go.
Certainly one of the most intrusive measures and not one that I'd favor. As I said, we've no idea if the intrusive measures are even needed.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 5:33 pm | #
Why not the pill for men? Believe me, a lot of guys would take it.
Krugman at FDL:
I can see how upset some colleagues get at facing criticism from Media Matters, The Horse’s Mouth, Brad DeLong, and others. They’d reached a sort of accommodation: play by the right’s rules, and you won’t get yelled at. Now the yelling is coming from both sides, and they’re mad — but that’s good. I can see visible results from progressive pressure.
Check him out!
I forgot - who's supposed to be doing the comic black servant this month?
Finny
Donna Brazille.
Paying men large sums in exchange for vasectomies.........
Didn't need a large sum....felt it was my responsibilty and did not want my wife to shoulder the burden. I do not think the pill is really safe.
We still wanted a large family and chose adoption to achieve this. (No, not a foreign adoption but domstic "special needs")
The sad thing is that "special needs" in America means any non white infant, healthy or not. My youngest is a wonderful 17 year old young man who would make any father proud.
I am blessed.
Yeah, it's SoHo.
It was in the NYT.
Damn, I tried to get Krugman to use WATB, but he says it won't get past the NY Times usage rules.
Fuckety fuck.
Which, BTW, has been one of my primary arguments against the feto-fascist for a very long time: As soon as you give the government the power to say that you can't have an abortion, you're also giving them the power to say that you must have one.
man, what a week...I actually get to do some arts writing...An author(Who happened to be a history prof of mine) and a concert...you can't say small city sasktchewan doens't precciate the arts
Like the rants of Rush Limbaugh or the films of Michael Moore, Krugman’s shrill polemic may hearten the faithful, but it will do little to persuade the unconvinced or to advance the national discussion of the important issues it addresses. It may even deepen the very partisan divide he denounces. Where is the distinguished economist when we need him?
Shorter book review: "High Broderism Rules!"
I know all that- I'm just railing against the proliferation of anti-bacterial soaps and hand sanitizers.
And the over prescribing of antibiotics.
I'm with you on that. I've been railing about that for years.
Toonscribe | 10.20.07 - 5:26 pm |
I believe livestock and poultry in this country are fed antibiotics as a matter of course.
I am writing about this book
http://www.amazon.com/Everett-Ba...a/dp/
1897252048
LISBON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Gordon Brown faces an uproar over his refusal to allow a referendum on Europe's new treaty, but analysts expect him to stick to his guns in the hope that the row will subside by the next election.
Right-wing newspapers labelled Brown a "traitor" for agreeing to a European Union treaty on Friday that they say hands over extensive British powers to Brussels, while refusing to allow Britons a vote.
The Conservatives accuse Brown of breaking a promise made by his predecessor Tony Blair in 2005 to call a referendum on the now defunct EU constitution.
Charles Grant, director of the Centre for European Reform, a London think-tank, believes Brown will hold firm in resisting calls for a referendum.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/
wt...975334720071019
Shorter book review: "High Broderism Rules!"
I also enjoy the obligatory false equivalency of Moore and Limbaugh, or Moore and Coulter, etc. They know their people simply make shit up and when busted move on to make up more shit. Moore footnotes and factchecks everything he does , makes it all public, and corrects himself when wrong.
OTOH, he is fat, so there you are.
Victory Is Within Reach in Iraq
By Michael A. Ledeen
Word Count: 1,483
Should we declare victory over al Qaeda in the battle of Iraq?
The very question would have seemed proof of dementia only a few months ago, yet now some highly respected military officers, including the commander of Special Forces in Iraq, Gen. Stanley McCrystal, reportedly feel it is justified by the facts on the ground.
These people are not suggesting that the battle is over. They all insist that there is a lot of fighting ahead, and even those who believe that al Qaeda is crashing and burning in a death spiral on the Iraqi battlefields say that the surviving
PK @ FDL RIGHT NOW!
Sheets.
I believe livestock and poultry in this country are fed antibiotics as a matter of course.
I believe you are correct, but I'm not sure what the antibiotics are for exactly.
okay, I see you guys already know...
Heh. Krugman:
As I put it — in COAL I talk a lot about history, and it’s worked its way into my head — we hope we’re about to elect FDR, but there’s a chance all we’ll get is Grover Cleveland.
You're suggesting that they should plan for the worst, and then you talk about a middle.
If we take this to its logical extreme, then yes, as Hecate suggested, we should have population control. For starters, I'd say about 25 million people should probably be moved out of California.
Well, that might not be a bad idea. I don't how the hell you'd accomplish it though.
Richard | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 5:21 pm
If you're a planner, you plan for everything, including the worst. You're focusing on the extreme end as the first option-population control in this example.
That's what I'm talking about, planning for every contigency, and being a leader in focusing the population on doing the small things that can help, less obsession with green lawns (xeriscaping), and that sort of thing.
As I put it — in COAL I talk a lot about history, and it’s worked its way into my head — we hope we’re about to elect FDR, but there’s a chance all we’ll get is Grover Cleveland.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 5:44 pm | #
Or even worse - Toledo
owls!!!!!!!
Blacks are dumber than whites.
I believe you are correct, but I'm not sure what the antibiotics are for exactly.
Toonscribe | 10.20.07 - 5:43 pm |
Helps with growth, my wife says.
I believe livestock and poultry in this country are fed antibiotics as a matter of course.
Well, yes, but you can buy beef and poulty that's organic.
I believe livestock and poultry in this country are fed antibiotics as a matter of course.
I believe you are correct, but I'm not sure what the antibiotics are for exactly.
Toonscribe | 10.20.07 - 5:43 pm | #
The antibiotics are to prevent rampant infection in herds and flocks that are packed so close together in our factory farms as to virtually invite epidemics. If you want to read a really unappetizing article about the American beef industry, it appeared in an edition of Harpers, about two years ago. Not sure what month but it would be worth chasing down.
buy Krugman's book and ruin Arthur Laffer and Larry Kudlow's spooning session
If I aim my gun just right could I shoot a texaschilibean in the face?
Kennedy has company. Donald Rumsfeld joins the Stanford Hoover Inst.
Be sure to see the clip of Bill Maher's show that made CNN today. Taped it and posted it last night after the chaos!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9NV7Ao7uHlI
Monica Crowley on BookTV, 1996 interview. WTF happened to her? She now look like trailer trash.
Hah, all the atriots are posting at FDL!
Let Prof. Kennedy know what you think of his bullshit smear review of Krugman's book:
dmk@stanford.edu
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Hmmmmm... I already read this book a few years ago, and as I recall, it was written by Paul Wellstone.
Frost is the reason abortion should stay legal. His p[arents should have a kid that's a leach on my money!
Although challenging, let me respond to,
"the definition offered more than a century ago by Francis Amasa Walker, the first president of the American Economic Association, who wrote that laissez-faire 'was not made the test of economic orthodoxy, merely. It was used to decide whether a man were an economist at all.'
Most modern economists continue to celebrate Walker’s orthodoxy, and behind it, the classical doctrines of Adam Smith, whose fabled 'invisible hand' regularly works wonders of production, distribution, innovation and efficiency, provided it is kept free of the meddlesome 'nanny state.'"
Assuming an economy a linear sequence, the limit of any linear sequence is ambiguous, immediately contiguous to the set of all constituents of the sequence and to the set of all non-constituents of the sequence. Whether constituent or not is ambiguous, resolvable in different ways.
How it is resolved is arbitrary, some deciding one way and others another way. Limit of a resolution is ambiguous, resolvable in different ways, etc. Understanding continuously diversifying, David Kennedy's assumption of convergence on optimality at a margin is nonsensical.
Convergence on optimality at a margin is possible only if the limit of an economy is arbitrarily designated, just as a computer program is limited only by arbitrary designation. Because of the paradoxical character of the limit of any sequence, arbitrary designation of a limit for a society is possible only by sovereign imposition of a government.
Now an economic market is possible, but only by political imposition. Each imposition constituting a limit to sequential behavior, each imposition is ambiguous, necessitating new imposition "clarifying" its ambiguity, ad infinitum, economic "efficiency" increasing in direct proportion to increase in rigid imposition of market limits.
Thus, it is "the meddlesome 'nanny state'" which makes possible the "fabled 'invisible hand' [which] regularly works wonders of production, distribution, innovation and efficiency." So unbeknown to Kennedy, it is the "nanny state" to which "Most modern economists [who] continue to celebrate Walker’s orthodoxy," whether knowingly or unknowingly.
If this reasoning be challenged, simply consider the bubbles generated by the Federal Reserve Board under the tutelage of Allen Greenspan, and the action by current Secretary of the Treasury Henry M. Paulson, Jr., in engineering a fund in which banks have deposited funds to acquire the subprime debts of Citicorp, Bank of America, and Wacovia, allowing these latter to move the bad debts off their books, while the lending banks do not directly acquire these debts.
Wow, quite a success for the "fabled 'invisible hand' [which] regularly works wonders of production, distribution, innovation and efficiency, provided it is kept free of the meddlesome 'nanny state!'"
Of course Krugman can't be a real economist. Otherwise he would have been busy for the past few years giving high ratings to CDOs and otherwise being a cheerleader for the credit industrial complex. Get with the program, Paul.
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