I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
aha
Sometimes it feels as if the 'Iraqi army' has no more substance than that of the 'South Vietnamese'.
18 Maliki Units (MU) = 1 Friedman Unit (FU).
If I had an AK-47 and lived in Iraq, I am not sure I would want to turn it in.
Speaking in North Carolina last Friday, Bill Clinton talked about a potential general election matchup between Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Bill Clinton's comments were quickly distorted by several news reports; here's what he actually said:
BILL CLINTON: I believe those are the three reasons you ought to be for her: She'd be the best for the veterans, she'd be the best commander in chief, and she would certainly be the best at managing this economy. And finally, according to the evidence today, she's also the most electable. She's running ahead of Senator McCain in Ohio; her opponent's running behind. She is ahead in Florida and Arkansas, a state that voted for me twice, 'cause I was the governor -- they sort of had to, I guess -- and voted for President Carter once. They haven't voted for another Democrat in 44 years. This week's survey in Arkansas: Senator McCain is leading Hillary's opponent by 16 points; Hillary's leading him by 15 points. So she can win this election. And, and, we need to change the direction of this country.
But it won't be an easy race. John McCain is an honorable man, and as all of you know, he has paid the highest price you can pay for the United States, short of giving your life. And he and Hillary are friends; they like and respect each other. They have big disagreements on foreign policy and economic policy, they have taken reluctant Republican senators all over the world to prove that global warming is real but there is a way to deal with it that grows the economy and doesn't shrink it. And we now have a bipartisan majority in the Senate to do something about this. That's the kind of leadership this country needs. And I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who love this country and were devoted to the interests of the country, and people could actually ask themselves, who's right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics. So that's my argument for her. She'd be the best for veterans, the best commander in chief, the best for the economy, and is the most electable.
Clinton's comments were quite clear: The former president simply said that his wife is the best candidate on the issues, and that it would be "a great thing" to have an election about those issues rather than one about "all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."
Those last comments -- about how great it would be to have an election about issues rather than "all this other stuff" -- are most easily read as a critique of the news media for obsessing over candidates' haircuts and houses and earth tones and sighing and middle names and how many buttons are on their suits and whether they'd be fun to have a beer with. That's the nonsense that has defined our politics for the past decade thanks to the news media, and Clinton seemed to be making what should be the obvious point that it would be better to focus on can
Wow. It gets any slower, I'll fall asleep.
This can only help Huggy Bear.
This entire clusterfuck was predicted.
I got dead-threaded, which is good because I fucked up that radio link before.
Here it is correctly.
It appears that Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's ultimatum to Shiite Muslim militiamen to surrender to the Iraqi government might not be working precisely as he had intended.
Nobody could have predicted...
Clearly, we need to train more Iraqi troops.
If I had an AK-47 and lived in Iraq, I am not sure I would want to turn it in
No way would I turn it in. I'd be out finding rounds for the thing.
S.I.S.L.O.T.: Linkies are your friend.
I mean, either these Iraqi troops were supposedly training are even stipider than our trolls, or the entire enterprise is, what's the word?, oh yea: bullshit.
I just want to point out that my 'puter was highjacked at the end of the last thread.
Anything said about Sinfonian, good or bad, was not by me.
The computer highjacker will be punished.
That is all.
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leibniz: I don't feel the lack of arms in the house here north of Boston. There are places in this country where I would, I think. And I've never held a firearm in my life that shot other than a Davy Crockett cap pistol.
...and ql says 'hello' to everybody!
Sinf the weasel is blogwhoring my phone call. I should never have called him.
I'm going to sign on with barndog.
Sometimes it feels as if the 'Iraqi army' has no more substance than that of the 'South Vietnamese'.
ProfWombat
maybe they are more cognizant than their leaders?
Instead, about 40 members of the Shiite-dominated Iraqi army and National Police offered to surrender their AK-47s and other weapons this morning to Sadr's representatives in the cleric's east Baghdad stronghold of Sadr City.
You gotta be fucking kidding me. You couldn't make shit up.
Tralfaz
team DFH is a go! Check your game mail!
No way would I turn it in. I'd be out finding rounds for the thing.
I know where you can get some that are 40 years old.
I'm going to make hummus from scratch.
I'm going to sign on with barndog
You been through Marine Corps bootcamp?
Zap, so you're hitting on QL? Zapette will be pissed.
Of course, nobody's going to turn their guns in to the "government" troops. The second after you do that, they say "thanks very much" and then blow your head off.
Wow. It gets any slower, I'll fall asleep.
Barndog
You could play Travian...
(join usssss..........)
I'm just about totally stocked up on everything. You always feel like you don't have enough, though.
Helicopters can land on the American embassy in Baghdad, right?
Has al-Maliki been taking lessons from Condi, or what?
If I had an AK-47 and lived in Iraq, I am not sure I would want to turn it in
It would be like having only one arm in Philly.
You know what, mimi? You want to make this public?
You e-mailed me after I spoke badly of you the other day, and I replied and apologized. You want to shit all over me on these threads to make your miserable existence complete, fine. But forgive me if I fail to give a shit.
I'm done with this. Back to liveblogging.
I know where you can get some that are 40 years old
I have friends with AK's and SKS' (chinese AK-47). Most of the rounds they buy are Vietnam era, and older.
Funny, most of them work as advertized. Unlike M-16 ammo...
You anti-American bastards want our fearless leader and his mentoree in Iraq to fail.
I believe that article points out the total disconnect with reality that the White House has demonstrated yet again.
You been through Marine Corps bootcamp?
Barndog, not fishing
Sir no sir.
Wha? You mean all of those pallets of cash didn't fix everything?
You could play Travian...
SNNNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
Helicopters can land on the American embassy in Baghdad, right?
Wow...there's a depressing visual.
fail at what, gregor?
maliki knew full well he didn't have enough firepower or loyal troops to finish what he started -- just like he knew petraeus would have no choice but to send in our boys to take the fighting off his hands.
so who's the dope?
Sir no sir
You are well schooled. Have a cookie.
And I've never held a firearm in my life that shot other than a Davy Crockett cap pistol.
I had a replica of Ol' Betsy.
Killed many a replica ba'ar with it, too.
You anti-American bastards want our fearless leader and his mentoree in Iraq to fail.
gregor
If only we would clap louder, everything would work out fine.
SNNNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
Barndog
I have a Teuton nearby that needs bootfucking, that will be fun.
So where's the fucking blogger ethics panel?
I'm going to make hummus from scratch.
plantsman
This program on PBS was repeating what you had written about having good soil to begin with. I think mine is fine with all the coffee grinds and other organics in it. I get about 4 gallons of grinds a week from work. That amount will go down this summer when it gets hot.
You anti-American bastards want our fearless leader and his mentoree in Iraq to fail.
gregor | 03.29.08 - 1:16 pm | #
it was a failure from day fucking 1...
That would be kilt. Were you only three?
Wha? You mean all of those pallets of cash didn't fix everything?
Just the winter heating issue. Until all the pallets burned up.
Hey, probally worth more than the dollar is, in heat value.
To liebniz from TKK and mer
Hey, Zap!
I trust you're having a wonderful time. Say hey! to the other Atriots for me, will you?
you can dish it out but you can't take it Sinf
I call you weasel once
You've called me all sorts of names these last few months
Whose existence is miserable - mine with me killing off some time while my bf is fishing, or yours (enough said)?
You anti-American bastards want our fearless leader and his mentoree in Iraq to fail.
Where exactly in the Green Zone are you at the moment?
For the latecomers: Eschacon pics
here and here.
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Prof Wombat,
Never owned a weapon except for a pellet gun. But my oldest brother, a 20 year vet, was loading his own shells when he was 15, and took us out plinking. We would collect beer bottles behind a bar on Sunday morning, throw them in a local river, then shoot the hell out of them with garands and 22s. When he died, his kids led me into his house, and the first thing they showed me was how many hand arms he had hidden around the house, all loaded. Nice Sig Sauers. I let his (grown) kids keep them all. But I was tempted to destroy them.
Sorry I couldn't make Eschacon.
My practice has been very busy lately. I could not get away.
I still would like to meet everyone someday.
Sheesh, I got nothing.
fokowi 
How are ya?
I just got a feelin' it's going to be fine with this project. I've still got to transfer soil. Didn't know to put rocks in the bottom for drainage.
It's totally true. You never have a chance to make the soil better than you do just before you plant.
Give it everything you've got at that point and the plants will more or less take care of themselves.
maliki knew full well he didn't have enough firepower or loyal troops to finish what he started -- just like he knew petraeus would have no choice but to send in our boys to take the fighting off his hands.
so who's the dope?
aarrgghh
Is anybody certain that this was his idea?
Barndog, not fishin
I don't undertand how anyone who thinks of fishing as an acceptable passtime can call anything short of watching celery grow "boring".
owls!!!!!!!!!
Are there holes in the bottom of those containers?
I trust you're having a wonderful time. Say hey! to the other Atriots for me, will you?
I'm having a terrific time, Diane. Wish you were here.
And I'll say hey! to everyone for ya!!
I got 4 bags of the small smooth river pebbles.
hey, songbird.
doing extremely well, thank you. haven't ran into you here for awhile...
you?
That would be kilt. Were you only three?
"No, I kilt a cop when I was only three.
Then I did time in the penitentiareee.
Davy, Davy Crockett..."
One of the better takeoffs on the Davy Crockett theme song.
I don't undertand how anyone who thinks of fishing as an acceptable passtime can call anything short of watching celery grow "boring".
JR, kerosene and a match
uh-oh...pass me my flak jacket.
Guns give me the willies. People kill other people with 'em. And I know what that smells like, and I don't like it.
If I never hold one in my life, it'll be too soon.
Are there holes in the bottom of those containers?
plantsman
Yeah, I ain't that big a green horn.
I don't undertand how anyone who thinks of fishing as an acceptable passtime can call anything short of watching celery grow "boring".
It's the preferred method of fishing. I get bored as hell sitting in a boat on a lake. Wading around and in the rivers, puts an entire new take on 'fishing'.
Nothing like waking up on a fawn, a mink, or watching the birds while out stalking steelhead. By the same token, there is no feeling like having a pod of steelhead bounce through your legs while fishing in the river.
None.
River pebbles are purdy, use 'em where you can see 'em.
It never hurts to ask, I've had clients grown plants before.
I know but they have to go in the bottom of the container.
Sheesh. Drown.
Broken clay pot pieces work well, too.
Iraqi Police in Basra did the same thing.
This is a sign of great progress and indicates the surge is a great success!
-GSD
I'm beginning to worship watertiger from afar.
Move closer.
Well, didn't have any of that so I had to buy them but it was only like $3 a bag.
This is proof that when the US leaves Iraq, orders to not kill fellow Muslims by influencial clerics will stop or minimize the potential bloodbath US propagandists scare us with.
Instead, about 40 members of the Shiite-dominated Iraqi army and National Police offered to surrender their AK-47s and other weapons this morning to Sadr's representatives in the cleric's east Baghdad stronghold of Sadr City.
One of the police officers told journalists assembled at Sadr's office that he was heeding a call by an Iraqi cleric based in Iran, Ayatollah Fadhil Maliki, to stop fighting fellow Muslims.
maliki knew full well he didn't have enough firepower or loyal troops to finish what he started -- just like he knew petraeus would have no choice but to send in our boys to take the fighting off his hands.
so who's the dope?
aarrgghh
Is anybody certain that this was his idea?
Lime Rickey | 03.29.08 - 1:19 pm | #
does it even matter? if the idea was to decimate the mahdi army -- like israel's attempt to decimate hezbollah -- there's plenty enough stupid in that one for everyone involved ...
I realize that a watertiger neither wants nor needs a Sylvester Perpetually Pursuing Tweety.
Still...sigh.
watertiger is smart as a whip and witty as hell.
Enjoy that.
Methinks the Darth Cheney laid down the law for Maliki on his last visit.
You know that Dick wasn't in Iraq checking up on the progress of the electricity grid.
-GSD
I've got about $250 invested so far but after that, shouldn't be much. The containers last about 10 years.
Saddam was given to rhetorical overstatement as well -- I think it's a feature of Arabic.
I realize that a watertiger neither wants nor needs a Sylvester Perpetually Pursuing Tweety.
Our museum currently has the most breathtaking exhibit of rare Warner Brothers cartoons artwork. Original sketches of Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny, etc. These are hand-rendered with notations written in the margins with things like, "Make beak smaller", "Shorten ears", etc.
There are background paintings. The plastic cells where they painted the characters on the back of the sheet in order to hide the brushstrokes which gave the cartoons their smooth appearance.
On and on. Dude, you'd love it.
http://www.butlerart.com/Display...hibit.asp?
ID=96
Think of what those containers can provide in that time.
plantsman, you going to do some gardening?
Whose existence is miserable - mine with me killing off some time while my bf is fishing, or yours (enough said)?
mimi | Homepage | 03.29.08 - 1:19 pm | #
obviously yours, since you have nothing positive to add, ever. it must suck to not be able to ive up to your own fantasies.
This surrender ultimatum has struck me as the approximate equivalent of Davey Crockett and Jim Bowie demanding that Santa Ana surrender at the Alamo.
George W. Bush is suffering from another severe case of premature Iraq elation. That's the inescapable diagnosis after a week which featured sunny statements from the President even as Baghdad and Basra descended into chaos.
Five years after "mission accomplished," Bush is now portraying setbacks as proof of success and escalating violence as a sign of a healthy democracy.
For the details, see:
"Bush's Premature Iraq Elation."
want our fearless leader and his mentoree in Iraq to fail.
Though this comment was obviously sarcasm, I have always been confused at people who sincerely hold this kind of view. They seem to be more angry at people who they perceive as "wanting" failure, than at the people who actually caused it.
Is it just a kind of self-defense mechanism, to prevent them from having to examine their own role in supporting this disaster?
15 month deployments to babysit a civil war
FORCE CONGRESS TO IMPEACH GEORGE BUSH AND DICK CHENEY, call Nancy Pelosi @1-202-225-0100 and DEMAND IMPEACHMENT. DC business hours only, call often, and spread it around.
from swimming freestyle:
"Iraq is a sovereign state, or so we claim. Why would U.S. forces assist the sovereign Iraqi government and Iraqi Army in their attempts to squash internal, anti-government insurgents?
We don't have a horse in this race. Wouldn't it be in our national interest to allow Iraq to settle it's own internal power struggles.
from http://swimmingfreestyle.typepad.com
does bush know this? or is this being worked out while they clear "brush"
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