I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Our town
Sardine has great taste in music. 
Thanks Vicki. Obviously great minds think alike.
Can Sardine Pick them or what?
He just knows how to add that touch of mustard to day.
excellent *rubs boney hands together*
Music I actually like on a latenight thread?
My head may explode.
In the meantime, off to bed....talk to you in the AM....
Never get out of the boat.
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Aha...so Iris Dement is a hit. Will eventually torture you all with some newer indie folkish stuff.
Last 8 million pp of Ulysses are a monologue, IIRC.
Wittgy
Yes, and Heminghway did the same, I think. (Old Man and the Sea)
It IS the natural progression of consideration. Unfortunately.
Who is sardine? And John?
Atrios has people. Don't fuck with Atrios.
Night Simels.
BTW, if Tacitus made it up here: it's not a good sign when people you heard in person are now "vintage" performers. I heard Arrau, Rubinstein, Horowitz, Horszowski, Curzon, Serkin, everybody except King David on the harp.
Will eventually torture you all with some newer indie folkish stuff.
Several of us are objectively pro- Laura Marling.
Sardine has great taste in music.
Vicki,
funny, I would've figured him having a tin ear.
DT'd
'Evening friends.
Well, the Sequoias survived our visit there. And I didn't kill the Surly Teenager, and he didn't kill me, either. Oh, and three hours crawling across the Lost Angeles metro area will kill *any* buzz. Guaranteed.
sardine--thank you again for posting townes the other night.
Feel free to check out my youtubes (just the singing ones, you can ignore the others ).
If anything sounds good to you, you can post it here and I'll be your best friend forever...
funny, I would've figured him having a tin ear.
Depends on the key.
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dead threaded.
digny has a wonderful post on HC issue up that refers to this at huffpost:
The internal debate on health care strategy for Democrats can be boiled down to this: do we choose the approach whose specifics are more popular with the public and will almost certainly work better in practice once it gets passed, or do we want to go with something that has some bipartisan support and may avoid an all out war with the insurance industry?
[...]
The first thing to understand in all this is the consequences for the Democrats for the next generation and probably longer if they pass some convoluted, complicated, unworkable compromise that doesn't change the abusive patterns in the insurance and pharmaceutical industries and doesn't begin to control health care costs. If they pass a compromise that doesn't meet regular people's needs, folks will figure it out very quickly, as most people deal with the health care system all the time. If the Democrats twist up this bill to make insurance companies and their Republican allies happy, it is end of story for this generation of Democrats -- our party will not recover from screwing up health care.
I think it is right on. the Dems have to realize that if they screw this up, they are toast.
We will all have to live with the results and we will know if it is any good.
if it aint, they are toast.
I thought he'd post the Trout Quintet, but that's just me.
funny, I would've figured him having a tin ear.
puns are evil and that's oil Ill say about that.
Deacon, you don't need to downplay it for us...
everybody except King David on the harp.
Wittgy
i ain't so young m'self
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I've heard this song done by someone else, I wonder who...
i ain't so young m'self
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tacitus volt bear | 07.12.09 - 11:48 pm
I kid. I remember your NYC chrono from the other night. Of course you were 5 at the time.
What Digby said Mike Lux said.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/0...=1&
ref=nyregion
Basement 3 feet deep with hail after a weird storm hit Yonkers, New York last week. The city had to bring out snow plows to clear the streets.
funny, I would've figured him having a tin ear.
puns are evil and that's oil Ill say about that.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Herring all of this nonsense hurts my ears.
or maybe it was her...
puns are evil and that's oil Ill say about that.
you may as well pack it in right now.
he could be a piker
yea,
and HMOs and health insurance companies are about as popular as dogshit, as Lux notes.
Make it a war on them, and make everyone know the goopers stand with the insurance companies.
that's what frank luntz would tell you, if he was human and worked for humans.
You guys are punny.
FWIW, the usually very yuppified HGTV had a fundie couple on their House Hunters show earlier. They needed a finished basement for home schooling.
I'm going to go drink some hemlock nao.
Our system is designed to put the politicians' base self interest, egos and insecurities to use to make them worry about losing their seats if they fail to deliver for their constituents. But the incentives are skewed, with many of them more concerned about their opportunities for personal wealth and protecting their fellow members of the ruling class (that last being part of the design as well.)
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2...-asks-
dems.html
She tells it plain.
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FWIW we watched the Walter Mattheau/Robert Shaw version of The Taking Pelham 1 2 3 last night.
That was one well-written movie.
Sequoia National Park is an active black bear area. There are signs everywhere warning you to keep your food, toiletries, etc., stored safely in the "bear Safe" metal boxes scattered around the park.
Our first night, I was awakened by the sounds downhill from us. "Bear in the camp!" Much shouting and banging on pots ensued. This happened again two more times that night. I was freaked out!
I talked with Danger Rangerette the next morning. She mentioned that there was a female active in that area, but no active bears around our camp. Comfort!
That was one well-written movie.
DWD-YDWETAKIT? | Homepage | 07.12.09 - 11:52 pm
Another movie crying out for "not a remake, please."
Canned fish puns? Salmon you guys!
FWIW we watched the Walter Mattheau/Robert Shaw version of The Taking Pelham 1 2 3 last night.
I barely remember the original, and I haven't seen the remake, so I suck.
ya should read that HuffPo article about all of the DLCer's being in bed with the fundies of C Street.
the bear thing ads spice to a trip to the sierra.
one year they wrecked our tule box. there was nothing in it and we had toted the food in the car truck, but apparently the bears had luck with previous boxes.
Sardine may not be a "he". I know that's surprising. But there are mama sardines and papa sardines.
Sardine: not your average anchovy.
Another movie crying out for "not a remake, please."
Wittgy
Agreed. The cast was pretty spectacular with many good actors (Martin Balsam, Jerry Stiller, Tony Roberts and others)
"This happened again two more times that night. I was freaked out!
"
Yet you proved you could bear up under the strain.
BTW, if Tacitus made it up here: it's not a good sign when people you heard in person are now "vintage" performers. I heard Arrau, Rubinstein, Horowitz, Horszowski, Curzon, Serkin, everybody except King David on the harp.
Wittg
That's pretty much the generation of pianists whose recording I bought up along the way.
I pretty much lived the early-music scholarship development as it strung along throughout the 70's and 80's, too, so The English Concert, the various English choirs, the Hanover Band, Ensemble 415, and many others were once new to me, but now are familiar, in the best sense of the word.
Make it a war on them and make everyone know the goopers stand with the insurance companies.
Exactly.
Have the war, and if the Rs want to sign up for the martyr's brigade, fucked they be.
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Enough!! Stop punnishing us!
Our first night, I was awakened by the sounds downhill from us. "Bear in the camp!" Much shouting and banging on pots ensued.
Wow - that brings back memories! Spent a summer working at a camp up there about a million years ago...
FWIW we watched the Walter Mattheau/Robert Shaw version of The Taking Pelham 1 2 3 last night.
It's available on Hulu, you know...
Sorry, the pun is an all but core issue for me.
Sardine,
The music rocks...that is all.
I ♥ folk.
Sullen Teenager proved an aggressive and intrepid hiker. Set a rapid pace and kept me moving along.
The Forest Service was doing what they call a "Prescribed Burn" in part of the park, so several days we were hiking in smoky air.
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.
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What's haloscan's excuse?
Echidne: a person learns something every day...
(thanks, Haloscan, for eating the first try so I could use a different pronoun)
The Forest Service was doing what they call a "Prescribed Burn" in part of the park, so several days we were hiking in smoky air.
Wow - more memories!
When I worked @ Ku, one of the biology grad students had a bad experience with bears in Yellowstone. He switched to studying squirrels.
Anyone who has Emmy Lou singing with her can't be bad.
Deacon! Welcome back!
Fish puns again?! You people shad know better by now.
ina is going to be jealous.
i don't care, i get to look at emmy lou.
good clip.
Wow - that brings back memories! Spent a summer working at a camp up there about a million years ago...
dave™©
Hey bro! We checked out Moro Rock. Whoa! Scary for people who are uncomfortable with heights (yours truly) but astonishing vistas.
"Bear in the camp!" Much shouting and banging on pots ensued.
Good idea to make noise at the ursine of trouble.
Fish puns again?! You people shad know better by now.
We don't know our plaice.
I pretty much lived the early-music scholarship development as it strung along throughout the 70's and 80's, too, so The English Concert, the various English choirs, the Hanover Band, Ensemble 415, and many others were once new to me, but now are familiar, in the best sense of the word.
shrimplate | Homepage | 07.12.09 - 11:55 pm |
Do you feel at the end of the day that they improved things? i know the rap, in the early days they all had bad intonation, the people with no talent became sackbutt players, etc. Those days are long gone. The current players are tremendous. But I do wonder about the aesthetic.
Andras Schiff goes around saying he's never heard better Bach than Edwin Fischer, Casals and Mengelberg, all 1930s and 40s.
The one thing I remember best about the summer I worked in Sequoia was, we were the first group to get to the camp since it had been closed the fall previous. The camp had a swimming pool, which had been emptied, and in which we found a dead deer. Had to get the rangers to come over with a winch and drag it out...
sallyh,
Woody and Mena were/(are still?) at Blissfest.
Sorry, the pun is an all but core issue for me.
JeffCO
sing us a tuna then.
fu horrorscan
Thanks sallyh! I had lots of quiet time to sudoku and read. I finally finished "Closing Time", Joseph Heller's sequel to Catch-22. 
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Sunday Rock'N'Roll Music Video Contest Party: This week: "THE PRISONER," 2009; featuring Johnny Cash & Oscar Wilde, together for all eternity.
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Vicki: How the hell is WGG?
"Enough!! Stop punnishing us!"
Ok, this one is obvious.
Just grin and bear it.
Good idea to make noise at the ursine of trouble.
there is a claws in the user agreement that prohibits pun threads.
Scary for people who are uncomfortable with heights (yours truly) but astonishing vistas.
Cool! Yeah, you get a vertiginous view down, but the view across...!
A surprisingly easy hike, too (or else I wouldn't have done it!).
I swear to dog that JeffCO found Eschaton by googling "liberal blogs + pun threads".
I've heard that some fish are into filletio...
Sardine may not be a "he". I know that's surprising. But there are mama sardines and papa sardines.
Echidne
there may even be hermaphroditic sardines.
it's a big ole goofy world.
My Dog, what good music!
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"Good idea to make noise at the ursine of trouble."
Standing up and clapping loudly.
To quote Roy Batty:
That's the spirit!
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This thread no longer serves any porpoise.
The mahi-mahi is just as good.
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In certain parts of the ocean, those sardines may be hermaphroditically seal-ed....
I swear to dog that JeffCO found Eschaton by googling "liberal blogs + pun threads".
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
He just wanted a grouper like-minded friends.
Andras Schiff goes around saying he's never heard better Bach than Edwin Fischer, Casals and Mengelberg, all 1930s and 40s.
Wittgy
Bach is so flexible in interpretation. You can go all the way from the bizarrely stylized Glenn Gould approach to the authentic performances by guys like Trevor Pinnock on harpsichord.
The "pre-scholarship" guys had a very different way of doing things from what the original Baroque composers probably intended. But that is not necessarily bad.
Spent Saturday in the Badlands with a 9 year old from New Jersey who was bound and determined not to leave without a distinquished scar or two. He failed.
Vicki: How the hell is WGG?
I didn't talk to him too much because he was in to observing, and I was in to my cups, but he looked good, I thought, and he seemed blissful.
I asked him if he liked Michigan and he kind of shrugged his shoulders (Bliss is just below the straits -- it's fucking gorgeous). He said yes and no.
I also told him that sometimes, when I read his blogs, they make me cry, and he said that's because he's a sensitive fellow, and he thanked me.
He was walking a bit with a cane; I understand his hip hurts. He seemed to be having a good time and partaking.
Again, I didn't talk to him that much, and we were never "close," as it goes, but all in all, I think things are going well for him.
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Wow. I thought the previous thread smelt, but this!
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This thread no longer serves any porpoise.
which is good for the gulls.
I swear to dog that JeffCO found Eschaton by googling "liberal blogs + pun threads".
I always thought he tracked Eli somehow...
night, all
peacr
i roe the day i came to this thread
Vicki: that's good to hear... sounded like he's had his share of troubles since he quit coming around.
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What's good for the gulls is good for the Newfies.
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BTW, if you're heading up to Sequioa and you like pussycats, make sure to stop here.
The woman who runs it is a distant relative by marriage. Used ex-hubby's money to finance the place (and still does!)...
"determined not to leave without a distinquished scar or two. He failed."
Time to send him to Heidelberg.
Yeah, sally, from all I've read...
Mena looked great, too. I just love her, always have. I talked with her quite a bit.
i roe the day i came to this thread
pretzel
Shoal leave already!
I always thought he tracked Eli somehow...
Pfft - Eli was a piker.
The "pre-scholarship" guys had a very different way of doing things from what the original Baroque composers probably intended. But that is not necessarily bad.
shrimplate | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 12:05 am |
I have an emotional reaction to those people (not just guys: Landowska too!) that I don't get from Trevor Pinnock. There's also a part of me that reacts to the originalists the same way I react to religious fundies, but at least the baroque people were working with real evidence and real music.
Shoal leave already!
So who died and made you the reeferee?
What's good for the gulls is good for the Newfies.
and the Mormons.
cast your net upon the waters and bring back a cargo of punfish...
What's good for the gulls is good for the Newfies.
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cosanostradamus
Bouy, I oughta...
I get here and you folks are doing fish puns, again?
Okay, I'm too tired to play.
I get to sleep in my own bed tonight.
Woo Hoo!
My body can't wait.
I get here and you folks are doing fish puns, again?
cosmic tumbler | 07.13.09 - 12:10 am | #
that's the net effect, yes.
I get here and you folks are doing fish puns, again?
Still, ct.
I once again have to get up early to go to The Great Muffin Factory Institute where I do my nursing thing, so I should sign off and do scales and etudes.
Be well, folks. I hope to chat with you all again in a few days.
Thanks and good thoughts to you all.
It's actually buoy. And I still oughta...
Is this just for the halibut? Or are you guys doing it on porpoise?
G'night Shrimplate, and thx for the ideas.
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' What's good for the gulls is good for the Newfies.
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cosanostradamus
Bouy, I oughta...
MP | 07.13.09 - 12:10 am | # '
Who're you calling "bouy," Buy?
As my grandfather would say.
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I get here and you folks are doing fish puns, again?
Another fin mess you've gotten yourself into.
i will never get over the fact that our previous government used a tv show (24) to inform itself about how to run an anti-terror campaign, while ignoring the best advice from professionals.
when the truth is accepted, that they hired rookie psychologists who ran this program as a lab to test unproven theories about compliance on detainees, there will be dishonor all around.
Is this just for the halibut? Or are you guys doing it on porpoise?
Solely for the pun of it.
that's the net effect, yes.
pretzel
Pun threads helped me get hooked on this place.
eventually, everyone tracks Eli
wtf is with my cat? sitting on the back of my chair, every once in awhile poking/semi-clawing me in the back.
on porpoise, sue, its just another example of free willy.
what the original Baroque composers probably intended
Which is necessarily a different thing from what they created, and which may or not correspond.
So, it does not mean a thing if it does not swing - hence I kind of like Albert Schweitzer's 'Bachhh'.
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Largemouth bass and northern pike.
Real shop name in Avalon, Santa Catalina Island: Buoys and Gulls. Nice if overpriced clothes and tourist carp.
Pun threads helped me get hooked on this place.
Deacon Blues
participate in salmon ya never leave
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OK, Newfie puns, now:
For people with no money, they sure have some grand banks...
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the shrill one says America is "boiling the frog" on economics:
Start with economics: last winter the economy was in acute crisis, with a replay of the Great Depression seeming all too possible. And there was a fairly strong policy response in the form of the Obama stimulus plan, even if that plan wasn’t as strong as some of us thought it should have been.
At this point, however, the acute crisis has given way to a much more insidious threat. Most economic forecasters now expect gross domestic product to start growing soon, if it hasn’t already. But all the signs point to a “jobless recovery”: on average, forecasters surveyed by The Wall Street Journal believe that the unemployment rate will keep rising into next year, and that it will be as high at the end of 2010 as it is now.
Now, it’s bad enough to be jobless for a few weeks; it’s much worse being unemployed for months or years. Yet that’s exactly what will happen to millions of Americans if the average forecast is right — which means that many of the unemployed will lose their savings, their homes and more.
To head off this outcome — and remember, this isn’t what economic Cassandras are saying; it’s the forecasting consensus — we’d need to get another round of fiscal stimulus under way very soon. But neither Congress nor, alas, the Obama administration is showing any inclination to act. Now that the free fall is over, all sense of urgency seems to have vanished.
This will probably change once the reality of the jobless recovery becomes all too apparent. But by then it will be too late to avoid a slow-motion human and social disaster.
Just to point it out, it's not a fish pun if cetateans are included. We're trawling a larger area than that!
Discovered Iris Dement on a Garrison Keillor tape from PHC a number of years ago and went out and bought all her stuff and in the process converted my husband, brother-in-law, and nephew into Iris fans. Thing is, though, that she likes writing better than singing and I haven't heard anything new of late.
Discovered Iris Dement on a Garrison Keillor tape from PHC a number of years ago and went out and bought all her stuff and in the process converted my husband, brother-in-law, and nephew into Iris fans. Thing is, though, that she likes writing better than singing and I haven't heard anything new of late.
Schweitzer...
There's a blast from the internationalist humanitarian cultured pre-War European past.
they have a tendency to reel one in, even those of us who sink more than we swim at it...
i will never get over the fact that our previous government used a tv show (24) to inform itself about how to run an anti-terror campaign, while ignoring the best advice from professionals.
when the truth is accepted, that they hired rookie psychologists who ran this program as a lab to test unproven theories about compliance on detainees, there will be dishonor all around.
peterboy
Why? They used 1984 and Duck Soup as a how to guide.
Pun threads helped me get hooked on this place.
Bob's yer uncle!
Albert Schweitzer, J.S.Bach: Fantasy and Fugue G-mol, BWV542
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h?
v=Qk796sMk_dQ
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This song made me want to stick my head in the litterbox and die after only 19 seconds of listening.
Doesn't the latest crop of Atriotistas like any music that's upbeat?
Pun threads helped me get hooked on this place.
Bob's yer uncle!
JeffCO
You filleted that joke very nicely
Why? They used 1984 and Duck Soup as a how to guide.
My guess was The 120 Days of Sodom.
Getting pun-chy.
G'night!
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My grandfather left Newfoundland before Canada joined it, due to a lack of variety in jobs: It was either fish, or cut bait.
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Why? They used 1984 and Duck Soup as a how to guide.
1Watt, Hermit
or horsefeathers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=D...player_embedded
I'm going to bed before the puns get crappie.
Peace.
This thread is in danger of getting crappie, even with all of the master baiters.
Bob's yer uncle!
JeffCO
We're net related, sucker!
ina is going to be jealous.
i don't care, i get to look at emmy lou.
good clip.
charley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...h?
v=eXscBQ9HHKE
'in Philomath they know the low-down/ throw the trolls out the door'
Actually, I think people took many trouts to find their way here
Actually, I just perched.
later 'bats.
troll free thread and almost two.
nirvana.
kisses to all the west coasters who hang in...
mackerel!
Actually, I just perched.
risa87
Another clownfish eh?
and Echidne, who knows not the clock.
Holy??
Hey, peoples.
AndyG says he's banned. Has there been some broad-sweep banning going on again?
Albert Schweitzer, J.S.Bach: Fantasy and Fugue G-mol, BWV542
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q...h? v=Qk796sMk_dQ
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QuentinCompson, Retributionary | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 12:18 am |
Thanks for that, it's like finding a message in a bottle from Atlantis.
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The Evangelicals wanted to outlaw blowfish in Newfoundland. Didn't like the sound of it.
So the fishermen said, "FUGU!"
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I've about haddock with all these fish puns.
I know Atrios has posted on this somewhere, but have the banks really given back anemone yet? You know, the money they took from tarpon the promise they'd pay it back?
That town in SW Montana I lived in had a fishing bum who lived there.
He had no job, and seemed to be living on the fish he caught. A stately looking fellow, he was 6'5" or so with a healthy brown beard.
He didn't talk much other than to bum cigarettes sometimes.
He had this far away stare.
AndyG says he's banned. Has there been some broad-sweep banning going on again?
monica_nyc
I'm in danger of being banned for lameness.
Actually, I think people took many trouts to find their way here
JeffCO
an upstream battle,
and Echidne, who knows not the clock.
What is that thing? It goeth tick tock.
A little Cash and carry - Daddy Sang Bass
Doesn't the latest crop of Atriotistas like any music that's upbeat?
Well, I do prefer music that's not fit to commit suicide to while playing.
I've about haddock with all these fish puns.
¡El Gato Negro!
Walleye think they're fun. ymmv.
Bach wrote straight from God, which is why Schweitzwer gets so carried away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=O...feature=related
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I've about haddock with all these fish puns.
¡El Gato Negro!
Walleye think they're fun. ymmv.
Deacon Blues
That's an alewive's tail, if ever I saw one.
I was banned a couple months back in what appeared to be a sweep.
It took a while, but I got my IP address (I have static IP), and went to Dad's facebook page and whimpered and whined and kicked and screamed.
I was then permitted to post again.
I saw andyg on a thread early in the day.
(obviously, I aint gone yet--wife went to her salon to sleep.)
with the Statler Bros. even...
Not that I heard of, why would Big Baby-blue Boss take the time to go a-banning whilst traveling in a socialist hellhole?
On the other paw, Butler the sociopathic sockpuppeteer excrementaire was clogging up the threads earlier, maybe big A. took a swipe at him.
People perching on a fish thread! Most of them hard of herring.
I have some friends whose band does parody songs in the vein of Weird Al.
One of my favs is Johnny Cash:
I hear the train a-comin',
It's comin' round the bend.
I hope it full of women
Cause I'm tired of fuckin' men . . .
LMAO
El Gato, these trollistas, they are much too disgusting for a refined gato such as yourself.
I've about haddock with all these fish puns.
¡El Gato Negro!
ya horse eared hogsucker.
duncan black has a facebook page?
an upstream battle
I'll never forget the time I heard spawning fish greeting one another in unison as they passed in the night. Yes, the salmon chanted "Evening."
I have some friends whose band does parody songs in the vein of Weird Al.
One of my favs is Johnny Cash:
I hear the train a-comin',
It's comin' round the bend.
I hope it full of women
Cause I'm tired of fuckin' men . . .
LMAO
Integral ♠ Lit
You know CoT?!@?!??!@!
Peterboy, oh yes.
What is that thing? It goeth tick tock.
Echidne
it is saying "numbered, numbered, weighed, divided"
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Shark the herring angelfish sing.
it is saying "numbered, numbered, weighed, divided"
Really? Mine says tiktaktiktakyougonnadietiktak
there are about 25 duncan blacks at facebook
Sardine,
What's the name of the band in the video? And what was the name of the folk group you played the other night? Thanks.
Gar dee gar gar.
Aww, you never know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
v=f0Nlr53rYNs
I guess Vicki went to bed but I gave that video 15 seconds...Vicki is a far, far better singer than that woman and has a much better voice. Even three sheets to the wind she does. That gal looks 30, sounds 100. No accounting for taste, sorry to offend.
SallyH, es la verdad.
Which reminds me, it is about time to go hunting the elusve Sangria, as the establishment that serves same has funny rules about sunday nights, for some unwordly reason.
Hasta, y adios, maybe someone can post some how-you-say "Gypsy sh!t" later, no?
hasta.
nevermind--there are 273 of them.
To the tune of "Age of Aquarius":
There's nothing scarier than a
Man with a hairy ass,
Man with a hairy ass.
A hairy assssss, a hairy ass.
The band, until a few years ago, played every Friday and Saturday night at a little bar called "The Gardens" at Lake Okoboji in NW Iowa.
We went at least once every weekend to see them. Not only were they funny as hell, but very talented musicians as well. Kind of ruined me for most local talent . . .
(CNN) -- President Obama has ordered national security officials to look into allegations that the Bush administration resisted efforts to investigate a CIA-backed Afghan warlord over the killings of hundreds of Taliban prisoners in 2001.
"The indications that this had not been properly investigated just recently was brought to my attention," Obama told CNN's Anderson Cooper in an exclusive interview during the president's visit to Ghana. The full interview will air 10 p.m. Monday.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS...fghan.killings/
Fuck. My vote just went up.
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I like Iris DeMent but I'm not sure why the nasality seems to be required.
I like Iris DeMent but I'm not sure why the nasality seems to be required.
Nobody nose for sure.
Echidne: don't you think she's trying to emulate June Carter and her sisters? That's who she reminds me of...
Nobody nose for sure.
JeffCO
I would ask the folks at the ol' factory, but it's closed down.
I'm not sure why the nasality seems to be required.
Lack of clothes pins?
or even Hank Williams... lotta those old country singers had that nasal twang thing going...
Echidne: don't you think she's trying to emulate June Carter and her sisters? That's who she reminds me of...
I don't know enough of the genre to have an opinion on that. But one of the Carter sisters had a heavenly voice.
I like Iris DeMent but I'm not sure why the nasality seems to be required.
Echidne
you're DeMented?
OMG. ¡EGN! wrote "whilst"!
Nobody nose for sure.
You might sniff it out.
I'm not sure why the nasality seems to be required.
Carries farther cross teh holler.
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Aww, you never know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h? v=f0Nlr53rYNs
sidhra كلب&# | 07.1
The president of the World Medical Association, Dr. Yoram Blachar, blasted Physicians for Human Rights organization on Friday for giving a first aid course to anti-security fence protestors in the West Bank village of Bili'in.
"Physicians for Human Rights have proved that they are a radical political group disguised as a medical organization," Blachar, who is Israeli, told Haaretz.
The humanitarian group said in a pamphlet that it gave the demonstrators the course "in solidarity with their struggle against Israeli occupation."
Aww, you never know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h? v=f0Nlr53rYNs
sidhra
Hey, nonsucky music!
not sure why the nasality seems to be required.
Echidne
old country music, trying to match the twang of the out of tune guitars.
You might sniff it out.
Echidne
Snot get another pun thread going....
You might sniff it out.
Whether nare or far.
Physicians for Human Rights have proved that they are a radical political group disguised as a medical organization
How would this gentleman describe the medical professionals who monitored waterboarding, without intervening ?
Oh, bile, you just did, Deacon.
the genre:
http://maxhunter.missouristate.edu/
Oh, bile, you just did, Deacon.
risa87
Oops....blew that one, didn't I?
Snot get another pun thread going....
Sinus up!
It won't get stuffy, will it?
Rape is a worse crime than murder.
It won't get stuffy, will it?
Nostril!!!!!
They were US doctors, too. Not some banana republic doctors, US physicians who watched the waterboarding torture being administered, and did nothing to stop it.
I suggest we all get some chocolate milk to enjoy - I assume we're all pro Boscos?
A good pun thread is nothing to sneeze at.
I stepped across that nosehair thin line into my kind of humors.
If it makes you apnea can't be that bad....
I actually prefer Ovaltine.
Cute kids, having fun.
I stepped across that nosehair thin line into my kind of humors.
Sadly not a bridge too far.
I sniff disaster. Beak Kind in my abscents. G'night.
I stepped across that nosehair thin line into my kind of humors.
Echidne
you mucus feel funny
I actually prefer Ovaltine.
A crummy commercial? SonuvaBICH!
some guy: adjunct
oh wow, they are growing up fast! so cute.
pro Boscos
JeffCO
:golf clap:
I'm going to have to rub haloscan in the poop to make it behave.
OK, the nasal puns are really sucking shit. Step it up a notch, people.
Wake me up when septumber ends.
Have I deviated from some norm I was ignorant of?
OK, the nasal puns are really sucking shit. Step it up a notch, people.
I just go with what comes out - can't philtrum.
some guy: nice.
Have I deviated from some norm I was ignorant of?
risa87
there's no septum of norm here.
Booger all - meant to note that last song was green day!
OK, the nasal puns are really sucking shit. Step it up a notch, people.
MP
Adenoids, some are pretty good.
They were US doctors, too. Not some banana republic doctors
Interesting fine print, in view of the US being behind over forty countries in life expectancy.
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der kinder kids, in hull
some guy: adjunct
Cute little things! Keep them away from pun threads, whatever you do!
they are growing up fast!
new bed night.
cribs are for babies.
E woke up, took 1/3 of a bottle, and was asleep 5 minutes later in her new bed.
way too fast.
Okay, I'm going to have to turbinate my participation before it becomes any more unpalatable. You may now all return to eustatians!
Wait till they start bringing their babies home, some guy.
Okay, I'm going to have to turbinate my participation before it becomes any more unpalatable. You may now all return to eustatians!
JeffCO
What inhale was that all about?
Interesting fine print, in view of the US being behind over forty countries in life expectancy.
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QuentinCompson, Retributionary
US doctors can't control what their patients do to their bodies, but they get top notch training, and they can control how they conduct their professional behavior.
And watching a captive get tortured to make sure the dude doesn't die on you isn't in the goddammned Hippocratic Oath.
Why is JeffCO being runny all of a sudden?
"they are growing up fast! "
found out my HS Junior of a son is hanging out with a college girl.
appropriate lectures given
Why is JeffCO being runny all of a sudden?
nick carraway
Sometimes his temper makes him abusive, then histamine.
Why is JeffCO being runny all of a sudden?
nick carraway
he's a post nasal drip?
Uncle B: what *is* the appropriate lecture these days?
He had tissues with the subject matter.
found out my HS Junior of a son is hanging out with a college girl.
appropriate lectures given
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
And a medal? /jk 
Really terrific and haunting tune. I'm melancholy now. Was pretty up after seeing Ben Harper outdoors in Montreal tonight.
He is awesome!
1st story on my little show tomorrow the evil dick dick dick cheney and his hiding andf lying and law-breaking.
It's remarkable how sanguine everyone has become about these revelations.
He had tissues with the subject matter.
risa87
He can usually wipe up any pun thread, tho.
haloscan sucks
I think you mean it blows.
Uncle B: what *is* the appropriate lecture these days?
nick carraway
don't be proboscis
I think you mean it blows.
risa87
Heh. Bless you!
1Watt: he does seem to have his nose in the air about the whole thing...
"what *is* the appropriate lecture these days?"
a combination of birth control and the perils of peer pressure
I get away with it by treating it as a requirement of the parents union
There was a memorable scene in Reservoir Dogs, where they had the young patrol cop tied to the chair in the warehouse, and they were taking turns beating him in the face, and Chris Penn comes charging in and says "What the fuck are you assholes doing? You hit him enough times, he'll admit to starting the goddammned Chicago Fire of 1872!"
That movie was made eight years before 9/11.
"And a medal?"
I did tell him I was impressed...
I did tell him I was impressed...
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Heh. Good on ya.
Ah well. Been a long day. And back at the borg in the morning. See all youse l8r!
oh, the usual thing... I thought maybe there was something about the age difference that mattered.
"I thought maybe there was something about the age difference that mattered."
covered under peer pressure
a combination of birth control and the perils of peer pressure
I get away with it by treating it as a requirement of the parents union
Uncle Blodge,
then u should include a lecture on lost wages.
immanent - adjective: of a mental act performed entirely within the mind; "a cognition is an immanent act of mind". - of qualities that are spread throughout something; "ambition is immanent in human nature"; "we think of God as immanent in nature".
imminent - adjective: close in time; about to occur; "retribution is at hand"; "some people believe the day of judgment is close at hand"; "in imminent danger"; "his impending retirement".
to hell with this goddamned language, anyway
.
Y'know, in a way, that's a sign of progress... twentyfive years ago, when I was in high school, it was pretty common for the girls to go with older boys but not younger-- that wasn't cool...
Dang, Josh Marshall has gone all capitalist on us.
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* The political news Web site Talking Points Memo this weekend completed a round of investment, of $500,000 to $1 million. The move is intended to increase the number of employees, to roughly 20, from the current 11, in the next 10 months. [NYT via Reuters]
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Torturing a captive is not so much for extracting valuable information.
It's for fun.
Another man's body found outdoors in Anchorage
Associated Press - July 12, 2009 8:44 PM ET
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - Anchorage police are investigating as suspicious the death of an eighth man whose body was found outdoors in the past two months.
Police say the man's body was found inside a sleeping bag Sunday morning in an area known a homeless camp. He has not been positively identified.
Lt. Dave Parker says police set up a crime scene investigation at the site near Centennial Park in the city's Muldoon section.
Since early May, seven other men have been found dead in woods, parks and illegal camps.
Police say the men were either homeless or familiar with life on the street
Parker says alcohol was a factor in most of those deaths. But he adds that toxicology tests are still pending on 2 of the cases.
WAAAAAATB Spooks
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Former Agents Say Stop Picking on the CIA
Some Say National Security Could Be Put at Risk if Congress Ask Too Many Questions
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Judith Fuckin Miller, Queen of All Iraq's best friend.
Some Say National Security Could Be Put at Risk if Congress Ask Too Many Questions
Yeah, the Congress should be the last to know what the fuck we are doing as a nation.
Is Cyrano decency amongst you folks when it comes to nose puns?
Congress *wants* to be the last to know...
So the CIA has their own version of "Don't ask; don't tell" when it comes to dealing with Congress.
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HULK SMASH!!!
laterz
Is Cyrano decency amongst you folks when it comes to nose puns?
you may have won this round in a very competitive field.
Some Say
Sourcing doesn't get any better than that! Let's bomb somebody!
Then forthwith I retire upon my laurels, Erin.
G'Night, All.
The whole history of the fluvial drainage system that eventually became the transcontinental Amazon River that we know today is older than 11 million years, Figueiredo said
and you guys think you have nose problems
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Some Say National Security Could Be Put at Risk if Congress Ask Too Many Questions
There used to be this concept in the intel and security forces that said you should not do stupid shit that would put national security at risk; if you had to testify in a court of law about what you did,
or it could be revealed in the press,
or you might be blackmailed about it.
Doing such things could cause your clearance to be pulled.
"Cyrano decency"
sniff... I can't go on any longer...
I was just walking home, in running shoes, stone cold sober, and I fell. I dunno what happened, but I thought I could catch myself before I fell all the way down and made a complete ass of myself, but no. Full sprawl, cracked my head and everything.
It's kinda funny now.
you may have won this round in a very competitive field.
ErinPDX
I coulda been a contender
Some Say National Security Could Be Put at Risk if Congress Ask Too Many Questions
comrade stalin knows what is best for us - trust him!
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Is Cyrano decency amongst you folks when it comes to nose puns?
That's a pun ouchie oh, you betcha!
And now to bed - I leave you with Sniff'n the Tears
annie for pete's sake you hurt yourself a lot.
good night batz and peaceful sleep.
No snoring
Y'know, in a way, that's a sign of progress... twentyfive years ago, when I was in high school, it was pretty common for the girls to go with older boys but not younger-- that wasn't cool...
nick carraway |
My daughter, her senior year, dated a sophomore. When she went off to college (15 minutes away), they continued to see each other for a little bit.
Since they broke up, he's been a real ass and been very mean whenever possible. One of the hazards of dating someone that much younger at that age. It's hard to not want to strangle the little fucker whenever I see him . . .
It's kinda funny now.
annie
be sure to have it looked at if you feel any worse, and especially if one of the pupils of your eyes begins to look larger than the other
can't be too careful...
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It's a new thing, erin. My knee still hurts from the last time, I think that's why I couldn't catch myself.
Of course I did it in front of the bf, same as last time.
My elbow is gonna bruise, but other than that I think I just hurt my dignity.
At least I had on pants and not a skirt. I almost wore a skirt. That would have been bad.
me go sleeps too
good sleepies, 'bats
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Integral: did she drop him in the first place because he was more immature than she realized in the beginning?
and especially if one of the pupils of your eyes begins to look larger than the other
Ok. I didn't hit my head too hard though, my elbow hit first.
the bf should hang around..you might need him to wake you up. If you start feeling nauseous, you might have a concussion and should be woken up periodically. take care.
okay, i'm out now. nite bats.
And now to bed - I leave you with Sniff'n the Tears
JeffCO
I remember that song "Driver's Seat".
I never realized that lead singer was nineteen combover hairs away from full on baldylocks.
Nighty night, tacky.
Thanks, erin, I'll stay up for a while to make sure.
Nighty.
Speaking of getting hurt, my daughters are always bruised, scraped and banged up from playing softball.
In her game Saturday, the younger one, who pitches, got hit in between the pubic and pelvic bone with a line drive. I could hear it across the field. She still grabbed the ball, turned and made the out at first, and then bent over in pain. We iced it and she played the rest of that game, then pitched the next one.
We've come a long way from the days of those ads for Nair. Remember - the girl tells her friends she cannot go out because she cut her leg shaving? Now these wounds are marks of toughness to be admired. Gotta love it.
Kim Jong Il Is ill? Now that's Wacky and Wild
!
Nick, yeah that was part of it. Plus, once she was in college, their lives were soooo different. We never liked him anyway - he's one of those arrogant jocks.
She's put on about 10 pounds since high school where she played volleyball, basketball, and ran track so was very very thin.
He and his other high school friends say she's fat now because she wears a size 3 instead of a 1. Little fuckers.
God gave Iris DeMent that nose, and y'all are acting like she picked it.
Anyway, she doesn't sound like that all the time in every song. She just has small nasal passages.
they'll need that toughness I think... shaping up to be a lot different world than we've had...
Boy that's the truth. I'd put up their toughness against any boy they know.
I have no problem with how DeMent sounds... that's one of those few songs that deserve to be called 'haunting'... and how she sings it is what makes it that way.
Stubbed your toe? Burned your hand on a hot pot? Go ahead and curse. It might make you feel better.
Swearing increased pain tolerance in a small study of college students published online Sunday in...
Swearing increased pain tolerance in a small study of college students published online Sunday in the journal NeuroReport. It also increased heart rate and decreased perceived pain -- signs of a "fight-or-flight" response that may help mitigate actual pain, according to Richard Stephens of Keele University in Staffordshire, U.K.
It also increased heart rate and decreased perceived pain -- signs of a "fight-or-flight" response that may help mitigate actual pain, according to Richard Stephens of Keele University in Staffordshire, U.K.
"If people experience the emotion of fear to a significant degree … their pain tolerance increases," Stephens said. "There seems to be something similar here. Swearing is emotional language. If it's not fear, it might be aggression."
A map showing what areas in Appalachia were most heavily mined and the rates of poverty in those areas.
http://www.dailyyonder.com/
files...ningPoverty.jpg
If I'd rather read and make bad puns than grade freshman comp papers, does that make me a bad person?
How can any reasonable person think anything but grifter, after Palin came out of the blocks snarling like a mad dog, and ending up folding like a piece of cotton candy?
Cotton candy folds? I thought it spins....
Speedy: good grief, I took you totally seriously...(whacks side of head with palm)
If I'd rather read and make bad puns than grade freshman comp papers, does that make me a bad person?
Speedy
Some days, I'd rather have my eyes gouged out by hot pokers than grade freshman comp papers. Okay, I'm exaggerating.
I just finished about 60 Intro to Lit papers and have some American Lit papers to grade now.
My thoughts go out to you . . .
The San Andreas Fault has been monitored continuously for seismic activity for many years. One of the more popular locations for monitoring is in a part of the fault near the town of Parkfield, California, where magnitude 6.0 earthquakes have occurred relatively consistently every 22 years. The last major activity at this location was in 2004. During 2004 and 2005 the San Andreas Fault Observatory at Depth (SAFOD) was constructed. It included a bore hole a little over 2 miles deep to enable better recording of earthquake activity.
On July 10 Berkeley Seismological Laboratory researchers Robert Nadeau and Aurélie Guilhem published the results of analyzing seismic activity in the Parkfield area in Science. Their conclusions are based on analyzing data from 2002 through 2009, including data from SAFOD, once it was completed. Their data were compiled from 76 monitoring stations around Parkfield.
Tremor rates have been elevated over the past six years, which is considered a sign that a large earthquake could be imminent. In spite of the increased number of tremors, the stress on the fault has been increasing, rather than decreasing. In their paper, Nadeau and Guilhem say that “the persistent changes in tremor suggest that stress is now accumulating more rapidly beneath this part of the San Andreas Fault, which ruptured in the moment magnitude 7.8 Ft. Tejon earthquake of 1857.”
That this area has escaped a major magnitude 7.0+ earthquake since 1857 does not bode well. “This segment is now fully locked,” according to Nadeau and Guilhem, and the fault was predicted to produce another big earthquake sometime between 1942 and 1999. Well, that means we are 10 years overdue and counting..
Every time Palin opens her mouth, she makes McCain's judgment look like a bigger piece of shit.
Just finished watching Frost/Nixon. Great flick!
My understanding has always been that Wm Kristol etc sort of forced Palin on McCain... I wonder if they did it by telling him it would cost the campaign a lot of big contributions to *not* choose her. they are a lot like the Mob, after all...
I watched some move, someone and someone make a porno. It was kinda funny but they never tell us what happens with the porno, not that you care by the end of it all.
Then I watched the Basketball Diaries which I actually kinda liked, except for all that crappy writing the Leonardo guy kept voice overing.
Marky Mark is hot though.
should be "Wm Kristol, et al", come to think of it...
Republican pundits open fire on Sarah Palin
(/cartoon dog snickering effect)
Nick, yeah, real "mavericky" of McCain to cave to the party pressure. If he had picked Lieberman or Ridge, he might have actually picked up a few independent votes.
What little respect I had for him dissipated early in the campaign. Actually I lost it in 2004 when he endorsed Bush after the dirty tactics he employed in 2000.
McCain was eight years past his peak. same with Bob Dole in '96. Interesting way the GOP has of presenting consolation prizes to their sacrificial goats.
(not to say either of them would have been anything but lousy Presidents at any time)
well, I've more that assured Monday's going to be a drag-ass day... 'night.
G'night Nick. I'm off too. Sweet dreams.
Whatever McCain was thinking this time last year, the voting public wasn't buying what he was offering for sale.
Not by a long goddamned shot.
He lost Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana, after four decades.
Crap, I don't think the Dems even tought that Indiana was in play.
McCain was thinking, "I really need to lose this election."
Paul Krugman: Boiling The Frog.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/1...r=1&
ref=opinion
Just a song before I go . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=7...re=channel_page
Obama beat the shit out of McCain, both electorally, and by popular vote.
what the hell is Douchehat trying to say?
Because I live in an apartment, with neighbors on both sides, 11:27 pm isn't the best time to be firing up unknown music.
/just sayin'
The electoral landslide was particularly impressive, and the popular vote results gave lie to the "evenly split country" myth.
Douche-hat is happy with Nazi-Pope, and he thinks you should be, too.
E.J. Dionne: The Real Court Radicals.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...9071201530.html
Obama really whipped McCain's ass, and you could feel it, leading up to the vote, but you also felt that you can never tell.
No, you felt that -- don't impute what you felt to me.
Ya think, that after 5-6 more pun threads sardine will change his nym?
I think that sardine and Vicki's spooge-fest at thread-top was icky, I know that.
No, you felt that -- don't impute what you felt to me.
plantsman, mad google skillz
I was scared the Thugs were going to steal another one.
But once I saw Virginia, and Ohio go blue that night, I knew it was all over.
It was fun watching the MSNBC people switch around the remaining states to still make it a contest, just dancing around huge California sitting there.
that was probably hippy lettuce talk.
I suspect there may have been some adult beverages behind those warm words.
Made it through another weekend without watching MSNBC prison porn or the WWE or Joel Osteen, and it feels pretty good.
time to turn this damned machine off, stretch out & watch a nature show on PBS.
If you're a Dem Presidential candidate, you can probably glom New York and California. Jesus, that's one hell of a kick start.
And yet, within those two States, Republicans have nearly destroyed State government.
Add Illinois to it, and you're halfway there, just by winning the nomination.
OT: In my opinion, it is past time for grizzled geezer Robert Byrd to let go of his death-grip on the Senate seat he so rarely occupies and find a qualified and willing successor.
NYT: Obama Faces New Push To Look Back.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/1...13intel.html?
hp
Dennett at the Darwin Festival
by Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennet
http://richarddawkins.net/articl...-Daniel-
Dennett
Sponsered by the Templeton Foundation
IMHO the shiniest theological nugget talked about in the article, though I don't believe in theological stuff.
“evolutionary Christology”
So, what about Sasha?
Tonight I've been trying to get a picture of Sasha and Widget rough-housing, but they have not cooperated with my picture taking. They've stopped as soon as they saw the camera in my hands.
Sometimes people say that the President is only a human, not to be thought of as some all powerful being.
Well, the President spent about a billion dollars to become the President, and has about nineteen SUV's surrounding him filled with agents who are willing take a bullet for him and his family.
And he has the nuclear button.
I'd say he is pretty goddamned powerful.
The Flaw In Ricci's Argument Against Sotomayor:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.c...ion.php?
ref=dc1
Heh:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3184...er=1&
beginTab=1
I notice that the Marine One Guard snaps off a crisp salute to the Commander in Chief no different than has been done for decades.
As it should be.
Whether or not the President has served in the military makes not one iota of difference.
Of all people to advocate it, General George Washington was adamant about the Commander in Chief being a civilian.
Here are two Sasha pictures,
both taken moments ago.
http://thumbsnap.com/v/fFimtQ5n.jpg
http://thumbsnap.com/v/iktNAqLI.jpg
She is 9 weeks old today.
They're great!
GOP unifies against any more stimulus spending
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20090...s_obama_economy
The Party of Nope = Party of Dopes
that's one cute puppy!
Kim Jong Il has pancreatic cancer.
The link says it all.
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/24...ll-now-on-sale/
That's a pretty sad song.
I thought pratt was spelled with only one t.
Pratt has gay hair. Also.
Morning peeps.
So, I turn on MSNBC hoping for "First Look" and what do I get but Dancin'Dave and John McCranky advocating tax cuts.
NYT: Obama Faces New Push To Look Back.
You know, if my house got robbed, I would want the cops to "look back" and found out who did it.
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E.J. Dionne's piece in today's WaPo is pretty good:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...9071201530.html
Working today, Moe?
Wonder if The Shuttle will get off today?
Tell policymakers to stop misleading America's women. It's time they got the health care they deserve.
American taxpayers spend millions every year to fund so-called Crisis Pregnancy Centers, which are actually nothing but fake women's health clinics. Young women who enter these "clinics" are often subjected to misinformation and intimidation.
It's up to us to end this dreadful, dishonest trend in American health care. Tell your senators you don't want to keep funding clinics that deny women access to safe, legal medical services.
ttp://www.alternet.org/rss/top_10_campaigns/67879/
halt_funding_for_fake_women%27s_health_clinics/
the link is
http://www.alternet.org/rss/top_...health_clinics/
Telnaes animation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...id=roll_telnaes
Paul Krugman: Boiling The Frog.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/1....html?th&
emc=th
Yea, back to work. Got a lot to do the next couple of days.
And a lot to do here in the garden.
I"m thinking it's much worse than Krugman realizes, and he's saying it's pretty bad.
On the economic side, he's only looking at the economy as it is, without some other major shock-- peak oil, a new war, etc. I mean, the Great Depression was "only" seven or eight years long... in that amount of time, anything could happen. An additional shock to the system, well, won't be good.
On the environment side, I'm less optimistic than I've ever been.
Watched the tail end of a movie last night with Sharon Stone, Samuel L. Jackson and Dustin Hoffman in it, based on a Crichton novel called Sphere. Started a train of thought that led me to this link.
http://www.ted.com/talks/
george_...ject_orion.html
800 H-bomb explosions to get into orbit.
Kinda nuts.
And yet there always seems to be enough money for war. Expanding the war in Afghanistan and planning on staying for years and years just seems kind of insane to me. Four more soldiers were killed yesterday, as you all know. Thinking of Quentin put me into a real funk yesterday. What the fuck are we doing.
Poor, poor Sarah Palin -- nothing wrong in her life is ever her fault.
is Quentin's son safe?
You'll get to hear what your story on the flawed sewage plant design has provoked.
Morning, all! Yesterday was about the perfectest summer day imaginable in the Northeast.
Cool, Snarkworth!
Wonder when the Bliss-cuits go home?
Hope Mrs. Moe finally reached her destination.
The shepherdess brought a ram over to spend the night in the barn. He's scheduled to become chops today. Think I should sneak out and liberate him?
Baaaad Idea.
Vicki & Feral are already home. As is Nim. Sounds like they had a rollicking good time.
Did they Blissblog?
They're trying to whitewash it all, plantsman, explaining the proximate cause of the failure, and ignoring the underlying design-- and just as importantly-- administrative flaws.
The real issue is this: they had a "design and build" tendering process that was guaranteed to produce a bad product.
Tied up into all this is what is known in Canada as 3P projects-- public/private partnerships. Rather than the government designing, building and operating what is after all a public works project, they bring in a private firm to do it. There's even a large company here running public schools.
The public employee unions quite rightly objected to this, but instead of bringing the project entirely into the public realm, the politicians opted for a compromise-- they'd hire a private firm (actually, two, in a consortium) to design and build the sewage system, and the city would operate it.
On some theoretical level this could maybe work, but in practice, it means the company cuts as many corners as possible to meet the terms of reference for the project, spending the bare minimum, and ignoring obvious signs of problems.
I'm told there is a specific exchange of documents that proves my insight about an overflow was in fact considered. It'll take me many years to actually get my hands on those documents, but my sources tell me they exist.
Basically, it comes down to this: "Yea, if we were going to operate this ourselves, we'd put an overflow in here, but the city's not asking for it, so what the hell." With some as yet regulatory input also affecting that-- someone else told me the engineers at the last minute put in an emergency escape-- raw sewage would run down the gutters of the streets around the plant-- but the provincial department of environment frowned on that. Of course, raw sewage in the gutters for a couple of weeks would be problematic, but better than what we've got now.
Barndog checked in once, but I was under the impression there was very little electricity to be tapped into.
I like how crystal clear your thought process becomes when you're on this subject, Moe.
These public/private partnerships never seem to work yet they get trotted out time after time. So perhaps the government peeps didn't make out on the sewage plant, but the private company did.
Yes, just like KBR made out serving tainted water to and electrocuting soldiers in Iraq.
Seems there will be a mini eschaton meetup in Philly at drinking liberally later this month. So far we have Uncle Blodge, Agent Orange, Marcellina, myself & Mr. ql. I think I'm missing someone else.
ms f or euph?
Oh, my! Bibi Netanyahu seems to be turning into Sarah Palin:
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/...es/
1098853.html
Ql, put me down for a maybe. We were thinking of coming into town anyway for the Galileo exhibit.
Well, I've had a lot of time to think about this, and a lot of people have helped me out. I still have to spend a day with Lexis to get the entire timeline right. Hopefully, later this week.
Thank you for not calling it a "tick-tock", Moe.
Ql, put me down for a maybe. We were thinking of coming into town anyway for the Galileo exhibit.
Snarkworth
that would be super cool.
tick-tock? I don't even know what that means.
E e-mailed a secretary at McGill to get a document and was pleasantly surprised to find out she remembered who I was.
And since her son lives in Munich, Germany, I might get a chance to see her once in a while.
Those flowers I bought her on Secretary's Day seems to have paid off.
It's the twee name DC Kewl Kids have for timelines these days -- y'know, since every one uses wind-up analog clocks.
that should be "I e-mailed...2
heh. I'm really out of it, I guess.
You're lucky you're no longer exposed to the inanity of the Village.
...And I'm waiting for that "How Mayo Ruined My Holiday" post.
So today, the Republican Senators are gonna get all pissy with Sotomayor and try to demand she not be herself if she is elevated to SCOTUS.
bad mayo?
Mayo period. On a burger. In Vancouver.
All mayo is bad.
And especially, on hamburgers.
oh. a picky eater.
I told my brother in law about my bar experience, and he knew the place. Said it's not representative of the west end. He said he too had had a strange experience there.
The gay bars are much more fun, he says.
Go ahead HaloScan, break. You know you want to.
I had fun in a gay bar in Vancouver once.
Man I got a twilight zone moment yesterday when I clicked on that Spencer Pratt link and saw my daughter's Facebook picture right there on the fan panel.
Small World, innit?
the whole West End is a gay bar.
I lived there for 4 years.
Man I got a twilight zone moment yesterday when I clicked on that Spencer Pratt link and saw my daughter's Facebook picture right there on the fan panel.
DFH in Dubrovnik | 07.13.09 - 6:57 am
U using the same computer as your daughter? if so, could be cookie related rather than cosmic coincedence.
Tom, is the racial violence in the West getting much coverage?
Tom, is the racial violence in the West getting much coverage?
plantsman, mad google skillz | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 7:01 am
what? LA going cuckoo for cocoa puffs again?
Or do you mean urumqi and xinjiang? if so, we get plenty of live feeds from there on the evening news.
Wonder if we'll get another be-catted Svenska SUPERTRAIN picture?
Good morning, folks.
Good morning, pipples.
Nope, different computer. Was a tad paranoid there for a few seconds
Every time Palin opens her mouth, she makes McCain's judgment look like a bigger piece of shit.
MP
How can we miss her when she won't go away?
Yeah, the Han/Uighur mess -- it's hard to know what if any slant the State TV is giving it.
Nope, different computer. Was a tad paranoid there for a few seconds
DFH in Dubrovnik | 07.13.09 - 7:03 am
maybe it's ip related or she snuck on to your computer at some point and logged in to facebook.
much more belief in facebook as all consuming data thief.
So today, the Republican Senators are gonna get all pissy with Sotomayor and try to demand she not be herself if she is elevated to SCOTUS.
plantsman, mad google skillz
I love how Sessions and the other Goopers are worried about her being "unbiased."
Like the Repig-appointed Justices are unbiased.
The lengthy piece on Palin's unraveling in today's NYT is pretty good.
According to the tourist brochure I had, french is the *fifth* most spoken language in Vancouver, after English, Mandarian, Punjabi and German. The German surprised me, but sure enough, three times on the bus, people around me were speaking German. They didn't appear to be tourists, but that can be hard to tell, I know.
E.J. Dionne addresses exactly that in today's WaPo.
So... who the Chuck is John?
I never heard German when I was living in Vancouver. Lots of Mandarin, though, and great Asian ethnic food all over the place.
Nachos, not so much
John has *pretty hair* in a bouffant sort of way.
there are lots of Germans and French people who go to Vancouver as tourists and decide to move there. I heard French every day when I lived in Vancouver, and it was from people from France.
and a lot of Vancouverites have German parents or grand-parents and still speak it.
People in Vancouver are much better looking than people in Halifax. I attribute that, in part, on the large Asian population, who are pretty good looking themselves, and serve up lots of lo-cal food to others.
Young Asian women here tend to be very stylish and well-dressed.
It'll be interesting to see just how much homework the gop senators have done. If they just keep referring to her one speech or the CT firefighter's case we'll know they haven't done much. Which is typical of the rethug party.
plantsman: John has *pretty hair* in a bouffant sort of way.
I wouldn't know. Facebork won't let non-Faceborkers take a look.
I think Vancouver sees a bit more of that orangey disc of light, too,
In 1995, Ricci claimed he had been discriminated against because of dyslexia.
That's for sure. There's also not much of a bar culture, like there is here. Those two things are related, I think: when there's not much sun, you hang out at the tavern. Lots of sun, you roller blade around Stanley Park.
I ran the loop three times while there.
Good morning, peeps! Today’s gun madness story comes from, where else, Tampa, FL!.
Thank you, Florida! But hey, it could easily have been Nashville as of Wednesday, when our guns in bars bill goes into effect.
it's hard to know what if any slant the State TV is giving it.
plantsman, mad google skillz | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 7:04 am
if any? State TV gives everything a slant.
can watch CCTV9 (ccp's english-language propaganda channel) and it was a real hoot listening to all of the local puppets gloss over problems in the region.
people in Vancouver are better looking because they're all into that superficial beauty culture of Los Angeles.
nobody wears glasses because they all had Lasik
they all go the the gym, obsessively
people spend a lot of money on all sorts of procedures - orthodontics, plastic surgery, etc etc
it's interesting at first but you soon realize how superficial and unintelligent people really are.
We used to drive up to Squamish early in the morning, start hiking into the park by 8AM, be at the top of the Black Tusk by early afternoon, and make it back to the car by dinner.
Fast police work on that couple murdered in Pensacola.
and really snobby about other people regarding their looks.
The first day it broke I saw many bloodied Han, then later a badly beaten woman who had not seen her new husband since she was beaten.
Well, they were nice enough to me, except for that crazy can driver. I didn't have to talk philosophy with them-- wait, actually I did, with my wife's colleague-- but anyway, I don't much care what their personality is, I just wanted to look at 'em.
Anyway, pre-coffee 
I attribute that, in part, on the large Asian population, who are pretty good looking themselves, and serve up lots of lo-cal food to others.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 7:09 am
can go through large parts of vancouver never speaking the official languages of canada.
remember a tim horton's in the area where the menu was in english and traditional chinese.
I'll need to eat soon myself, and have another cuppa.
they're okay for a visit but if you want to live there, prepare for culture shock
The coffee shop next to my hotel had a Chinese menu, and two just adorable women behind the counter. They remembered me each time I came in, and gave me gracious smiles. What more does a tourist want, really?
and no culture
Wow, 59° here. Have the windows open but had to put on a sweater. Sweet.
which hotel where you in?
I found the service really, really bad in Vancouver too even when I was with my famous hockey player boyfriend
We ate sushi one night, and it was good enough. But next door, there was a noodle house, and a line of Japanese-Canadians stretching maybe 50 long to get in-- stretching all the way down the block. Should've eaten there, I said.
I don't believe this. I think this is simply leaked cover for what was something much more outrageous, as I can't imagine Cheney telling the CIA to break the law by keeping THIS from Congress. Can you?
There's great gardening culture in Vancouver -- neat guy named Tom Hobbs wrote a cool picture book, "Shocking Beauty" and had a nursery up there.
We'll be headed to Chicago later this week. Looking forward to getting out of town but will miss the animals.
Last time we stayed at the Sylvia. The were filled up this time around, so we stayed at a discount place nearby, but went over and drank at the Sylvia bar a couple of times. We have a friend who actually lives in the Sylvia.
Wow, 59° here. Have the windows open but had to put on a sweater. Sweet.
QL- | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 7:21 am
won't see that for another 6 months.
been really hot and humid here with a train of tropical depressions keeping the weather like that.
I used to live about 4 blocks from the Sylvia. On the waterfront in the opposite direction from Stanley Park
so just off Denman?
My mom built the Sylvia, using just a spoon and a box of toothpicks.
JP, I'm convinced the secret initiative had to do with domestic spying and/or hit squads. Why on earth would going after bin Laden be secret or controversial?
Mrs. Moe was short-listed for a job at UBC, but didn't get it. Strange, thinking about how life would be different had I lived there.
My paper is better than the Straight, and we certainly wouldn't have been able to afford the house we have now, were it in Seattle. But I'd be better looking.
Morning, folks.
Yea, half block of Denman. I don't even remember the name of it. No phone in the room, a shitty TV, had to pay to use the wireless. So, basically, wasn't there much, went to the coffeeshop each morning to check email, etc.
FeralL! Have fun?
I know some couples from Eastern Canada who couldn't hack Vancouver for more than 2 years because they couldn't make any friends. Not an uncommon problem.
They got tired of being with each other 24/7
QL: Why on earth would going after bin Laden be secret or controversial?
That's what I'm saying -- capturing or killing al Qaeda leaders is nothing controversial nor would it be something to keep from Congress, no matter the means. After all, we're supposedly "at war" with al Qaeda -- capturing and killing the enemy is pretty standard stuff in wars.
Oh, Yeah! Camping in the UP with V & husband and Ruth, then Blissfest with another half-dozen Atriots, how could you not?
The Taliban sure are blowing up Muslims in Pakistan.
The Taliban sure are blowing up Muslims in Pakistan.
So is the US.
So, the WSJ story was a "cover story leak," since the actual program is still classified.
It's a lie, pure and simple.
Oh, I know. The Taliban don't have drones as far as I know.
And the Chinese are blowing up Muslims in China.
I guess it's the new black.
Morning, all
Fuck HaloScan. People here yesterday kept asking "why can't we know about it?" Because even if La Pelosi knew, she couldn't publicly comment.
The Han Chinese are executing Uighurs and Uighurs are getting out of Urumqi as fast as they can in fear for their lives.
The CIA: Trying to Kill Castro Since 1960.
--Dave Barry
Tom - 大肚腩
Man it has been a long time. Everything ok (aside from the weather?) I missed your intelligence and perspective.
(sends out telepathic plea for new thread)
Man it has been a long time. Everything ok (aside from the weather?) I missed your intelligence and perspective.
DWD-YDWETAKIT? | Homepage | 07.13.09 - 7:39 am
just busy enough to not need entertaining by vain aeroengineer supermodels complaining about other people not paying it the proper amount of attention.
and I'm off... again.
Folk You, HaloScan!
The idjits at WSJ comments are saying that the WSJ story came from a leak... from Congress, who weren't briefed on the program!
And why isn't Morning Blow selling this WSJ story?
The WSJ is now a Murdoch rag, no?
Good morning people
The idjits at WSJ comments are saying that the WSJ story came from a leak... from Congress, who weren't briefed on the program!
Jeffraham,
I need to eat. bbl.
The Washington Times ^ | July 13, 2009 | Jon Ward and Jennifer Haberkorn
In political combat, there are few more potent weapons than a single word or a catchy phrase that can be used to target a proposal and drive it into the ground. For Republicans, "rationing" could be that poison-tipped arrow for the Democratic-led health care bill, much as "amnesty" was the club with which conservatives beat President Bush's attempt at immigration reform into a bloody pulp in 2007.
Here's a catchy phrase for you: Fuck you, you fucking Nazis.
I had to weigh into the stupid end of the pool at WSJ.
I can't believe these people are unquestionably buying that story.
For Republicans, "rationing" could be that poison-tipped arrow for the Democratic-led health care bill
The framing is the problem, though. This isn't Rs v. Ds by any stretch. This is People of the United States v. Our Own Insurance/Financial Industry.
It may be a war fought through proxies, but those proxies aren't so neatly divided, or so pure in their motives.
IMHO.
I kind of think that couching the action properly is the "Thing."
Instead of allowing the media to cast increasing taxes on the wealthy as class warfare, we should simply say, "The American people are very tolerant and slow to act. But after thirty years of dedicated class warfare on their jobs, benefits, working conditions, and savings: the American people are finally responding to the class warfare started by the wealthy against them more than thirty years ago and continuing unabated to this day."
OK, haloscan is being cranky and I've got a lot of catching up to do at work - no time off goes unpunished.
President Obama is facing new pressure to reverse himself and to ramp up investigations into the Bush-era security programs, despite the political risks.
Well there's some bullshit from the New Dork Times, eh?
The political risks are if Obama does NOT follow through and enforce THE laws of the United States.
These are not Democratic Laws nor Republicans Laws - they are THE law.
I swear if ANYONE in ANY POSITION regardless of PARTY has broken the law they need to be brought to justice.
ANY
Fucking
ONE
Damned at Random sent me foxes.
Plus ca change.
"The CIA has a foreign policy that sometimes coincides with our own."
-- Mort Sahl, 1958
A man who partly severed his foot after tumbling into the well of a moving train car in Toronto's west end was able to pull out his cellphone and call 911 as he was carried more than 5 kilometres.
Toronto police Sgt. Tim Burrows said three friends were drinking...
ap/yahoo news ^ | 7-13-09 | Mark Sherman
The leading Judiciary Committee Republican is charging that Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor is "out of the mainstream" of legal thinking and has a very activist judicial profile. Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama made the assertion just hours before Sotomayor, who would be the third woman to join the court, was to face her initial confirmation hearing.
Who gives a rat's ass about Sessions' "assertions"? His cornpone act is a relic of the past.
NPR now reporting that the "secret program" was "to kill or capture al Qaeda operatives" according to today's Wall Street Journal.
As predicted by many here. Operation Phoenix redux.
More is surely to come.
When Seymour Hersh talked about this in March at the U of MN, he said that there had been too many collateral deaths. Nothing about that yet, but it seems likely to me that we will see a Hersh story in the not too distant future, in the Times or elsewhere.
Sessions' views on race are also "out of the Mainstream" as are the views of ALL the Conservative Justices on the Court.
The funny thing about the increase taxes is 3% increase on the over $350K bracket means people who make $400,000/year will pay at most $1,500 a year more in taxes. BFD.
The leading Judiciary Committee Republican is charging that Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor is "out of the mainstream" of legal thinking and has a very activist judicial profile.
What you bet Sessions shows his ass during the hearings?
The leading Judiciary Committee Republican is charging that Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor is "out of the nutstream" of legal thinking and has a very rational judicial profile. Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama made the assertion, while drooling on his klan robes, just hours before Sotomayor, who would be the third woman to join the court, was to face her initial confirmation hearing in front of a panel whose average IQ is less than that of a cup of cafe con leche.
So, had Michael jackson died today, instead of two weeks ago, how much coverage would this Sotomayor hearing get?
E.J. Dionne's column today is spot on on the nature of SCOTUS:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...9071201530.html
David Derbes: NPR now reporting that the "secret program" was "to kill or capture al Qaeda operatives" according to today's Wall Street Journal.
Yes; I commented on this, earlier.
Ridiculous on its face.
(DC) Little Sammy Alito, lead whiner of the famous band, Little Sammy and the Federalist 4, fell into serious sulk today at the prospects of a black man appointing a smart puerto rican woman to a position on the Supreme Court. Doctors say that Little Sammy's condition is "not serious, in fact totally ridiculous".
As Jeffraham noted, the WSJ claims its story on the "secret program" was leaked to it by a member of Congress; which, as we know, was NOT BRIEFED on the program.
Ridiculous on its face.
JP,
And this is a problem for our media in what way?
Prediction: the Conservatives will attempt to beat up Sotomayor to appease their wiggy base, but the Judge will sail through (with at least 70 votes, maybe 80) because (a) the GOP is afraid to lose the Hispanic vote in 2010, and (b) Sotomayor is actually not that liberal, and probably the most conservative (small c) that Team Obama is likely to nominate.
She's more conservative than Souter. That doesn't mean she shouldn't be confirmed, but don't get your hopes up that she's going to turn into Abe Fortas. She isn't.
Beverage to Jeffraham. Also. Too.
plantsman: As Jeffraham noted, the WSJ claims its story on the "secret program" was leaked to it by a member of Congress; which, as we know, was NOT BRIEFED on the program.
I don't think the *article* fingered a source -- the idiot *commenters* were saying that.
THey were telling people on national TV they were killing Al Qaida operatives. Even showed the drones zeroing in on convoys and such. That's wasn't the secret.
Fuck You, HaloScan!
What's ridulous, Jeffraham, that it wasn't acted on?
Hersh said it did act, and killed a bunch of people, including many "collateral deaths".
ON CNBC, Meredith Whitney said that this will be the mother of all mortgage quarters.
Maybe I'll have another cup.
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I read part of that story at WSJ, and I believe "Congress member" was mentioned in the body, iirc.
Well, I have been thinking (OMG!) for the last twenty-four hours about whether to go ahead with another book. (The Publisher ASKED for one)
I think, at this moment, I will start rewriting my "Literary" novel, DIAMOND'S LIGHT (originally titled in my head - and I still refer to as - Love, Lust, and Sex.)
If the rewrite interests me and if I can drive my mind into the really uncomfortable aspects of marital infidelity, it might be the one.
Quentin, how is your son?
Mika just said SHE was told "it was just in the beginning stages" for OVER 7 YEARS.
David Derbes: What's ridulous, Jeffraham, that it wasn't acted on?
Hersh said it did act, and killed a bunch of people, including many "collateral deaths".
What's ridiculous is that a program to capture/kill al Qaeda leaders would be something that Panetta would have felt a need to put to an immediate end, and that it would be something Cheney would want kept secret from Congress.
NPR now reporting that the "secret program" was "to kill or capture al Qaeda operatives" according to today's Wall Street Journal.
The Ds should consider killing to get primo PR on tap like that.
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SOCIAL, political and racial commentators and activists for years have told us that justice in this country unjustly favors wealthy white Americans, those who can buy their way out of serious problems. And I've never doubted that.
And so I was kind of thinking and hoping that late last week, when that kind of justice shifted to favor a black American, that some significant, albeit perverse, progress had been made -- and, fair being fair, those same voices would make a lot of media-delivered noise in response.
Fat chance.
Early on the morning of March 14 of this year, Donte Stallworth, two weeks after signing a $35 million free-agent deal to play wide receiver for the Browns, was driving his Bentley in Miami Beach when he struck and killed Mario Reyes, 59. Stallworth, previously entered in the NFL's substance abuse program, was charged with DUI and manslaughter.
Stallworth pleaded guilty, reached a financial settlement with Reyes' family and was sentenced to 30 days in a Miami jail. On Friday, he was released after serving 24 days. Not bad, huh? Some minor skin rashes last longer.
But neither those political, social and racial commentators and activists nor their cooperative, obedient enablers in the media seemed interested in this story.
She's more conservative than Souter. That doesn't mean she shouldn't be confirmed, but don't get your hopes up that she's going to turn into Abe Fortas. She isn't.
David Derbes, optimistic | 07.13.09 - 8:20 am | #
Far more pro-labor than Souter.
If the comments at WSJ on the article are any indication, again, this is simply leaked cover, and predictably, it was crafted (poorly, IMO) to cause the idiots to say, "See? The Dems don't want to capture or kill al Qaeda! OMFG!!!1!"
Dear Liberal Blogger,
Being as you are in a SOCIALIST HELLHOLE
5 hours ahead of Eastern Time, might we please have a fresh thread?
What's ridiculous is that a program to capture/kill al Qaeda leaders would be something that Panetta would have felt a need to put to an immediate end, and that it would be something Cheney would want kept secret from Congress.
Jeffraham, public option
I respectfully disagree. The Church Commission outlawed such things. Beyond that, the reference to "Munich" (the movie) leads me to think that people were gunned down not in Iraq, but elsewhere (maybe Germany, where several of the 9/11 hijackers had lived), and that others died besides the so-called bad guys.
If Cheney ordered this stuff, and if the US follows its own laws, Cheney is in serious trouble.
Crème DeMent.
David Derbes,
Just before you left last night I made a pretty strange comment to you (even for me)
I really meant it the way I wrote it but it could be misinterpreted into snark or sarcasm: that was not my intention.
It was supposed to be praise and I hope you received it in that way.
I had just written a long, complex, and esoteric letter to my publisher on the nature of writing and the maturation of writers changing perspectives.
I saw your comment about citing another great thinker and I was filled with envy.
Never been one that accepted others ideas in preference to my own so the nature of my existence has been to adjust the world to my thinking.
This is pretty fucking weird and all.
Hence, sometimes I sound a bit daft and rude and that is the furthest from what I really am.
sheets, I feel utterly childish.
I can't wait to hear Darth and Liz Cheney pre-emptively defend Darth while using no facts!
Hi, DWD. I saw the comment, thought it was interesting, and was too tired to say, "Thanks".
Don't worry about it; I took it as a compliment.
What's ridiculous is that a program to capture/kill al Qaeda leaders would be something that Panetta would have felt a need to put to an immediate end, and that it would be something Cheney would want kept secret from Congress.
Jeffraham,
What he said. I'm convinced it had something to do with domestic spying and/or hit squads here at home. Killing al Qaeda is neither a secret nor controversial.
David Derbes: I respectfully disagree. The Church Commission outlawed such things. Beyond that, the reference to "Munich" (the movie) leads me to think that people were gunned down not in Iraq, but elsewhere (maybe Germany, where several of the 9/11 hijackers had lived), and that others died besides the so-called bad guys.
If Cheney ordered this stuff, and if the US follows its own laws, Cheney is in serious trouble.
I see your point, but it assumes a whole lot more detail than what's outlined in the WSJ article (which I maintain was written as cover for what REALLY got Panetta hot, and caused Cheney to break the law... all of which could fit nicely in the framework you outlined).
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