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GravatarYa don't say!


GravatarBut what about the OC???


Gravatarturd?


Gravatardagnabbit!


GravatarNYT's Stolberg

With a year left in office, Mr. Bush confronts an America bitterly split over the war in Iraq. His domestic achievements, the tax cuts and education reform, are not fully embraced by Democrats, and his second-term legislative agenda — revamping Social Security and immigration policy — lies in ruins.


Gravatar Iraq's culture of corruption stems from the actions of the international community and the controversial UN oil-for-food scheme, the deputy prime minister Barham Saleh said on Thursday.

Speaking at a new anti-corruption forum in Baghdad, Saleh said that the programme, run between 1996 and 2003 while Iraq was under UN sanctions, and what he charged was the body's wasteful use of money were to blame for the rampant corruption that bedevils Iraq.

"A large responsibility for the outbreak of corruption in Iraq lies on the international community," said Saleh.


GravatarTKK, the mimi mimic


Gravatar Iraq's culture of corruption stems from the actions of Bill Clinton

Isn't that better?


GravatarWellesley, Weston, Sudbury and Newton in MetroWest, one of the nation’s wealthiest suburban clusters, all saw big increases last year in foreclosure filings, statistics from the Warren Group show.



Oh, those poor rich folks.

Fuck them.


Gravatarbummer, there goes the 'low-class, minimum wage (insert your favorite ethnic slur here) who couldn't afford the payments' arguments. this is now moving thru the middle and upper middle class ranks.

ka-boooooooom.... meanwhile, monkeyboy brags about the solid fundamentals:

WASHINGTON (Thomson Financial) - After meeting with his top economic advisers hours after the US economy posted its weakest employment report in four years, President George Bush said both the US economy and the financial markets are still strong.

'This economy of ours is on a solid foundation, but we can't take economic growth for granted and there are signs that cause us to be ever more diligent to make sure that good policies come out of Washington,' Bush said today at the White House, after meeting for the first time with the president's working group on financial markets.


GravatarAssholes

the scarboroughs are just making things...she did not attack Obama and she did not get boos


msgop Obama should be ashamed they support him and should question their motives


GravatarOT from below: what a hoot it wuz when the press was trying to find ways to report about the influx of Eastern European migrants to our shores

as they were white (which made then hard to spot generally, so you couldn't scapegoat them) it was so hard for the gutter press to mold it in racial terms.

so instead they went on about numbers.

lotta legislation when it comes to immigrations is very racist and always hits those with brown skin the hardest

and they are also turned into demons by the press


GravatarDesperate housewives in desperate households.

Buying more house than you can afford.


GravatarCue Decon 102 in 3...2...1...


GravatarThere's a pretty map at the link.

this could get pretty grim pretty fast - I'm not gonna' like this show am I?


GravatarThat Saturday Multinational Force Iraq news dump

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.ph...6233& Itemid=128


GravatarWiped by the Hidden Hand


Gravatarbut i thought only dumb brown people got bad loans and couldn't hold a job to pay their mortgages?

NYT's Stolberg

With a year left in office, Mr. Bush confronts an America bitterly split over the war in Iraq.


bitterly split? only in the village.


GravatarThis Obama rally! People are very excited.


GravatarI came across an article in the Baltimore Sun yesterday that was written almost exactly the same as this.

Sadly, it's becoming so common, you could substitute any city with this article.


GravatarWith a year left in office, Mr. Bush confronts an America bitterly split over the war in Iraq.

bitterly split? only in the village.


Heh, that's like when people say the 60s were the most divisive time in American history...


Gravatari live 2 hours from bawston and 2 hours from NYC....most everything closer to either city is ridiculous in price

i think there must have been quite a few 'flippers' in those speculative areas who are being left holding teh expensive properties as their value drops - cause in most of those towns, there is MONEY


GravatarAre you referring to the Hillary Clinton who just blasted Obama for being "Liberal?"

Thanks for playing.
jac | 01.05.08 - 11:38 am | #


i read about that, too. nuts, huh?

prior to the iowa caucus, i woulda thunk she was the one to beat. not anymore.

she either goes left or gets left behind.


GravatarThere's a pretty map at the link.

Without knowing the greater Boston metro area, I can still manage to gather from that map that it's pretty fucking depressing.


GravatarDisaster Capitalism enthuses investors.


GravatarAn Iraqi soldier has opened fire on American troops, killing two and wounding three others, US and Iraqi officials have said.


GravatarObama is very good at this.

but i'm speaking of this country. going all Public Enemy, 400 years is a long fucking time, yo?
chicago dyke, daring to belitt | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 11:39 am | #


Oh yeah. Racism is the heart of evil in this country. I remember years ago in the deep south talking to an impossibly cool old feller who had been an organizer with the Pullman workers union. He still marveled at how ability of employers to get white workers to cross lines against their own immediate economic interest by just flashing the race card.

Lyndon Johnson knew this.


GravatarClinton did not blast Obama for being a liberal...that is another lie it comes from the imagination of a reporter

factless drivel
if every rumor about the clinton campaign were true --they would be driving around NH in big suv's handing out public works jobs and other bounty


GravatarHe grabs his coat, but before he can leave, an Edwards campaign ambassador approaches. “What do you guys hang from the ladders at firefighters’ funerals?” he asked the men in yellow. An awkward moment ensues. “The American flag!” he answers his own question. Then, he points right at Mrs. Sorenson, and declares: “Obama doesn’t salute the American flag.” For good measure, he adds that Obama was sworn in to the Senate on the Koran. (Not true, but all’s fair in the heat of a caucus moment.)


Gravatarduring the boom, housing prices in the UK were being reported as going up a certain percentage per day !! 1 or 2% for example!!

housing prices there have been falling, but it seems as though it's worse in the USA


GravatarUncle Smokes:

Did you see my question downstairs about your gravatar?

(BTW, I liked your choices over at the homepage).


GravatarI was watching Obama and the enthusiastic crowd on TV, and there's a little confusion - and it immediately scares the shit out of me.

How long will they kill our prophets
while we stand around and watch


GravatarNever count on things always rising, as Bob Dole can tell you.


GravatarI was watching Obama and the enthusiastic crowd on TV, and there's a little confusion - and it immediately scares the shit out of me.

Yeah. He obviously has a lot of SS coverage, but there are a lot of hyperactive Jonah Goldbergs out there.


GravatarI was watching Obama and the enthusiastic crowd on TV, and there's a little confusion - and it immediately scares the shit out of me.
NPR had a report a couple of months ago from the deep South noting that some African-American women didn't want to vote for Obama because they don't want him to be killed.


Gravatari read about that, too. nuts, huh?

prior to the iowa caucus, i woulda thunk she was the one to beat. not anymore.

she either goes left or gets left behind.
fokowi


There is a "vote for me or you'll be sorry" vibe.

This morning, my wife compared Clinton to Salieri - a perfectly fine composer who had the misfortune of living in the time of Mozart.

Whether you like him or not, Obama is Mozart.


Gravatarrootless- you tell me to travel, and when you buy me the plane ticket, i will. but i'm not unaware of ethnic and racial hatreds outside this country; i have plenty of friends and colleagues from around the world who've filled me in (oh, the Irish have suffered!).

still, it's worth noting that from Japan to Russia, and South Africa to Brazil, Germany to Saudi Arabia, people desire to be anything else before being seen as of african descent. hatred of the african diaspora is global, as i'm sure you know.


GravatarI'm trying to think of a period when America was not full of folks disagreeing with each other, but I can't. I'm sure even the "Paleo-Americans" were a quarrelsome bunch, having to eat sloth meat in the cold all the time.


GravatarNPR had a report a couple of months ago from the deep South noting that some African-American women didn't want to vote for Obama because they don't want him to be killed.

iirc one reason Colin Powell declined to run for president was his wife's concern for his life.


GravatarThis morning, my wife compared Clinton to Salieri

Ouch!


GravatarObama's Secret Service guys are reassuring. For one thing, they're bigger than everyone who gets near him.


Gravatarhatred of the african diaspora is global, as i'm sure you know.



We are all part of the African diaspora


GravatarSome of Greater Boston’s most exclusive residential enclaves are seeing a startling spike in foreclosure activity.

Wellesley, Weston, Sudbury and Newton in MetroWest, one of the nation’s wealthiest suburban clusters, all saw big increases last year in foreclosure filings, statistics from the Warren Group show.


This is good news for Giuliani. Or McCain.

I'm not sure which.


GravatarMaverick owls


Gravatariirc one reason Colin Powell declined to run for president was his wife's concern for his life.
leibniz


Just the opposite. Alma has a history of depression (and medication), and he didn't want that drug through the media mud.


GravatarI can't remember who said it the other day, but I thought that it was a great quote:

"Obama's not hitting the right notes, he's writing the music."


GravatarMozart won a caucus in Iowa?
~


GravatarGet upstairs, people.


GravatarWell, see, NOW it's a crisis.

I swear to God, bias is not nearly as much a problem in American journalism as privilege and laziness are.

A.


GravatarReposted from downstairs:


No, it's your golden boy himself, Obama, who is threatening "riots" by blacks in this country. Get your facts straight!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,278314,00.html
Texaschilibean | 01.05.08 - 11:37 am | #

I love when some racist fuckwit says "Get your facts staight" and then links to Fox.


GravatarThe fact reamins that in spite of all this broughaha, Hillary is still stomping Obama's hiney in CA and a lot of other really big states. Those polls need to start moving real soon, or he will have been a flash in the pan.


GravatarAnd speaking of Fox, Cavuto was blathering yesterday about the Huckabee win in front of a chiron that said -- I am not making this up -- "Did Populism Win and America Lose?"


Gravatarstill, it's worth noting that from Japan to Russia, and South Africa to Brazil, Germany to Saudi Arabia, people desire to be anything else before being seen as of african descent. hatred of the african diaspora is global, as i'm sure you know.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 11:51 am | #


Pretty much. Not completely universal. It's a lot better to be black American in Paris than Moroccan.


GravatarIn 2000, in the Boston metro, it took 26.9% of household income to cover a 20% down loan on the median housing value. By 2006, that number had risen to 35.6%. That's a 32% increase.

The values for the country as a whole those years were 20.6% and 23.0%. That's a 12% increase.


GravatarWhether you like him or not, Obama is Mozart.

Why do I picture Obama dressed as a big knight in Don Giovanni?


GravatarWith a year left in office, Mr. Bush confronts an America bitterly split over the war in Iraq.

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll.
"Do you favor or oppose the U.S. war in Iraq?"
12/6-9/07
Favor 31% ... Oppose 68 ... Unsure 1

Bitterly split?
Looks as close to agreement as we'll get for this Friedman unit.


GravatarHey Sally, Fuck you too!

Despite the attitudes and the number of extraordinarily rich people in Boston's metrowest (particularly in Weston, where a 7000 sq ft mansion on 5 acres is fairly average), there are working class people living in Newton and even Wellesley. I've seen a lot of parents of children with special needs move here (some spending $500k for a 2 br/1 ba house for a family of 4-5) in order to get access to the services provided by the public schools here.

But it's a lot easier to make broad assumptions and say "fuck the rich!", isn't it?


GravatarAs a side note, I'm personally cheering for the foreclosure of the corrupt CEOs and other assorted assholes in metrowest Boston, I just don't appreciate the blanket assumption that everyone in the 'burbs is a greedy twit (no matter how generally true it is). People move out here for a number of reasons, and buying a McMansion is only one of them (and "fuck them" is definitely an attitude I agree with..).


GravatarCorrupt CEOs, man.


GravatarWell, I admit to also having a knee jerk impulse to say "Fuck the Rich" buried inside me somewhere. Except how do you say "Fuck the lower middle class who were maneouvered into living beyond their means over 20 years of agressive credit-peddling by predatory lenders, and whose willingness to mortgage their own futures for the momentary appearance of affluence was finally preyed upon by unscrupulous real estate firms who colluded with banks to entrap the suckers into mortages with confusing terms for the sake of boosting their sales figures for the year"?

It doesn't quite roll off the tongue.


GravatarOk, read the article, as you might expect, the rich are not really taking a big hit in the foreclosure arena. Weston foreclosures increased all the way to 12! Dover had 7! BFD. Even those meager numbers are probably just due to people bailing on houses that aren't worth what their outstanding loans are... The number that should stand out is Framingham (260 foreclosures in '07, almost as many as the rest of the map combined), a medium-sized, working-class town with a large immigrant population. But most of the "rich" suburbs have so few foreclosures that it's not worth including them in the article..


GravatarThe huge spike in relatively wealthy towns like Hopkinton, Ashland, and Holliston is even more striking in that they are full of newer developments than older towns like Waltham and Newton. There are fewer industrial-scale developments in the Boston area than in, say, California, but there is speculative development nonetheless. And much of that has happened in rapidly growing places like Hopkinton.

It's also worth noting that the outer-ring suburbs are much less densely populated than those inside Route 128. Fifty-seven foreclosures in a town like Ashland (which has about 15,000 people) makes a much bigger dent than sixty in a place like Newton, which has about 80,000.


GravatarAgreed, Ben. The foreclosure rate, normalized to population, in the outer ring is ~1 order of magnitude higher than the inner suburbs.. There's almost no development in or inside of the Lincoln/Wayland/Natick/Sherborn ring (aside from the occasional tear down).


Gravatarno matter what happens republicans get "pro growth" billing on CNBC


GravatarThis is another interesting data point. On its own it doesn't signify the collapse of the housing market there.

As noted, those are generally affluent towns, and can be expected to have a far lower than average foreclosure rate as their baseline. So a few people getting creamed causes a massive data spike. And it's only a few dozen foreclosures per town, where each town has maybe 10,000 homes or more.

What would be a more useful metric would be to chart this against the number of mortgages outstanding, as well as to know how many mortgages are in arrears but not yet into foreclosure and what that rate of growth is.

Overall, Massachusetts and New England is doing better than many other parts of the country in this retrenching of the residential market. There was less speculation and less boom in housing construction, so the number of houses more closely matched households. till, there's been about a doubling of the inventory and time to sale, plus a modest reduction in sales prices - particularly for new homes.


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