Well, those vets were just crazy.
Uncle NTodd |
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01.12.08 - 7:01 pm | #
I predict that this will be a short thread.
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 7:02 pm | #
I found a paint-gun in my son's footlocker!
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:02 pm | #
I predict that this will be a short thread.
Nobody could have foreseen... yada, yada, yada.
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:02 pm | #
There are a few shattered Vietnam hermit vets that live in in the hills behind me. They collect ferns and sorrel for the florists. Most try their best to avoid humans in general. One guy knows I did my time in country and comes to see me once in a while. I give him my old magazines. He's have been there since the 70's.
Ya right, we support our troops. Fuck Bush & the village.
Troutski |
01.12.08 - 7:03 pm | #
I found a paint-gun in my son's footlocker!
Jesus H Christ! Private Pyle, why is there a jelly donut in your footlocker?
Uncle NTodd |
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01.12.08 - 7:03 pm | #
Stress of war; also the result of training.
Harper's reported some time back (I have a link somewhere, but I'm lazy...) that military training after Vietnam went from "Do it for your buddy!" to "Be a stone cold killer!"
Which is rather hard training to shake off, especially after awhile in Iraq.
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01.12.08 - 7:03 pm | #
And John McCain promises a million years of this!
Raybin |
01.12.08 - 7:03 pm | #
We just had a situation here in MN where a soldier was "sucided by cop" (a term I loathe, BTW).
Then, a few months after he died, his mother broke into his house and stole a bunch of his shit.
Can you imagine?
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:03 pm | #
Big Engine, Big Towin', Big Brakes.
waylin |
01.12.08 - 7:04 pm | #
None shall pass
Least of all Favre.
Ebenezer Le Page |
01.12.08 - 7:04 pm | #
...and she tried to burn down the house.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:04 pm | #
...and United States citizens are still namby-pamby compared to the crazy-ass fightin' cultures found around the world.
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:04 pm | #
Now, I am depressed.
trifecta |
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01.12.08 - 7:04 pm | #
As i said earlier when someone posted this, this is only the beginning. We have a generation of Tim McVeighs and Lee Harvey Oswalds to live through.
leibniz, monadΩ |
01.12.08 - 7:05 pm | #
...and she tried to burn down the house.
It's cold in them thar hills.
Uncle NTodd |
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01.12.08 - 7:05 pm | #
...and she tried to burn down the house.
What did she want?
Ebenezer Le Page |
01.12.08 - 7:05 pm | #
Least of all Favre
At this point, no. Keep the ball on the ground and run down the clock.
FeralLiberal |
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01.12.08 - 7:05 pm | #
Dead threaded:
let's talk of sex and football instead.
chicago dyke, foily
I concur!!
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:05 pm | #
The troops were simply political props to Bush, Cheney, Rove, and the neocons. After that, they simply don't matter to them. Their families don't either.
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 7:06 pm | #
What did she want?
The house, which was left to his adoptive parents.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:06 pm | #
There are a few shattered Vietnam hermit vets that live in in the hills behind me. They collect ferns and sorrel for the florists. Most try their best to avoid humans in general.
I worked with a Vietnam Vet for a while. Nice guy, but the experienced had obviously profoundly effected him. He told me about some vets he knew who lived out in the wilds like that.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.12.08 - 7:06 pm | #
i am not at all surprised to read news like this, and i expect much, much more like it to come.
ntodd, others- i left an answer downstairs.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 7:06 pm | #
When I was there the goal was to just stay alive. That was everybody including LT. Nobody cared about winning. We all knew it was bullshit. We knew there was no win possible.
I'm guessing there is a lot of that going on in Iraq now.
Troutski |
01.12.08 - 7:06 pm | #
Serious people, without virtue, with serious hate have made the beautiful earth into something that it should not be.
Bob Bob Bob |
01.12.08 - 7:07 pm | #
The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation had a story on the best Post Traumatic Stress Disorder treatment facility in the world. It's in the Army and open only to soldiers under arms who have already agreed to go back. Essentially it's not so much treatment of sick people as a way from the Army to prevent Columbine situations.
They also had a bitter interview with an army wife who said the only way the VA pays attention to psychological problems is if you hurt someone or are about to kill yourself. (We ourselves have received outstanding service from the VA regarding non-combat-related physical problems but have no confidence in their psychological services.)
Sure wish I didn't live 2 hours from the nearest VA outpatient clinic. That's something I'd really love to help with.
To the significant limits of my abilities, of course.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:07 pm | #
Now is probably not the time to offer up my exegesis on how the VietNam war effectively destroyed male/female relations for an entire generation.
But it did. This one is worse. This one is going to go on forever.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
01.12.08 - 7:07 pm | #
In most cities, 25 to 33% of the homeless are vets. PTSD up the ying yang.
trifecta |
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01.12.08 - 7:08 pm | #
MANAMA, Bahrain - President Bush said Saturday he is open to the possibility of slowing or stopping plans to bring home more U.S. troops from Iraq, defying domestic demands to speed the withdrawals. Updated on war developments, Bush said the U.S. presence in Iraq will outlast his presidency.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.12.08 - 7:08 pm | #
Nothing in the affairs of man ...
People's interviewer also mentioned that readers had asked if he takes sleep aids. Bush said generally not, but he does occasionally when he travels.
“I must tell you, I'm sleeping a lot better than people would assume,” he said. He said he drinks a couple of cups of coffee in the morning and drinks a lot of water and, of course, no alcohol.“I don't drink alcohol. I can remember when I used to drink, I had trouble sleeping at night,” the President said.
Interview People mag., 12/14/06
focus, founded |
01.12.08 - 7:09 pm | #
Updated on war developments, Bush said the U.S. presence in Iraq will outlast his presidency.
Gilly Gonzylon
Bush to world: "Blow me. By which I mean, again."
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:09 pm | #
The surge worked so well troops must remain. What a crock.
Bob Bob Bob |
01.12.08 - 7:09 pm | #
Dead threaded from below.
"GWPDA, Arthur & Angel"
What's this?
Have you adopted a little sister for Arthur?
Chris Tucker |
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01.12.08 - 7:09 pm | #
trifecta -- it's your turn.
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01.12.08 - 7:10 pm | #
Two Iraq war veterans from the same Fort Carson platoon were tied to a Colorado Springs crime ring that police said is responsible for killing two Soldiers and other recent violent crimes.
Colorado Springs police say former Soldier Louis Bressler and Pfc. Bruce Bastien Jr. are the prime suspects in the Aug. 4 killing of Pfc. Robert James, 23, of the 43rd Area Support Group, whose bullet-riddled body was found in a car in a Lake Avenue bank parking lot.
Bressler, 24, and Bastien, 21, are in jail in connection with death of Spc. Kevin Shields of the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, whose body was found Dec. 1 on the sidewalk in the 200 block of South 16th Street near Old Colorado City after he was shot to death. He had been out celebrating his 24th birthday.
Family members have said Bressler came home from Iraq for treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder, a mental illness that has become a hallmark of the Iraq war. Some 600 Fort Carson Soldiers were diagnosed with it last year.
Commanders at the post have said war-related stress is possibly responsible for a sharp increase in crime on the post since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
The number of Soldiers going AWOL for a month or more went from 22 in 2003 to 110 last year. Domestic violence reports rose from 21 in 2003 to 79 last year, and theft reports jumped from 68 to 179.
Ebenezer Le Page |
01.12.08 - 7:10 pm | #
Of course it will outlast his presidency, that was the whole point of the "surge"
nick carraway |
01.12.08 - 7:10 pm | #
Now is probably not the time to offer up my exegesis on how the VietNam
war effectively destroyed male/female relations for an entire
generation.Have you got a short version?
You have to do it between turns.
trifecta |
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01.12.08 - 7:11 pm | #
NTodd's Pa's alternative service was in PT at the hospital in Williamsport, PA. A lot of the patients he worked with were vets. Very angry and depressed, and the situation really angered and depressed my dad.
Uncle NTodd |
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01.12.08 - 7:11 pm | #
i sincerely and with the utmost enthusiasm invite you to post this at our place. you can email it to me and i'll put it up under an anon nym, if you'd like.
i would really like to hear what you think.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 7:11 pm | #
"Ya see, it fell apart after I left office. Ain't my fault"
The New York Times found 121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing in this country, or were charged with one, after their return from war.
Either you are pro-war or anti-American.
Get on the goddamn bus or get off.
Sarcasm aside, this is horrible.
Monty |
01.12.08 - 7:12 pm | #
ntodd, others- i left an answer downstairs.
chicago dyke, foily
Repair of optical nerve damage is a few years from getting out of the lab. But let me make an inquiry. Your dad is somewhere near Chicago, I assume.
shawk |
01.12.08 - 7:12 pm | #
Fox Broadcaster plowing the endzone.
bill |
01.12.08 - 7:12 pm | #
You have to do it between turns.
trifecta
O
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V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:12 pm | #
The house, which was left to his adoptive parents.
Sad situation.
Ebenezer Le Page |
01.12.08 - 7:12 pm | #
how stupid would you have to be to think Bush *suffers* in any concievable way?
nick carraway |
01.12.08 - 7:12 pm | #
"In most cities, 25 to 33% of the homeless are vets. PTSD up the ying yang."
It's bad here in Boston. I give a lot to the New England Shelter for Homeless Veterans, and wish I could give more.
If you'll allow me a sitewhore about this from more than 10 years ago:
Wisconsin just shut down two VA-affiliated clinics because they were in such shit shape. And Minnesota just took oversight of the main on in Minneapolis.
It's just pathetic. And goes to show what horse-shit the health care system is, as a whole.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:13 pm | #
they'll be driving those support the troops decals
by the homeless vets on the side of the road
while they listen to Rush
rootless-e |
01.12.08 - 7:13 pm | #
The Bush/Cheney government saves money on every soldier who comes home in a casket.
leibniz, monadΩ |
01.12.08 - 7:14 pm | #
Sadly, there needs to be a remake of Paul Hardcastle's song Nineteen.
(This was probably one of the first mentions of PTSD in the popular culture.)
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 7:14 pm | #
A big public hospital recently shut down in Atlanta.
move |
01.12.08 - 7:14 pm | #
Perhaps if I ever meet some of you in person I'll share what it is like to live with random death. It fucks you up.
Troutski |
01.12.08 - 7:15 pm | #
your turn, and I think I just heard thunder!
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:15 pm | #
Overcompensating by Jeffey Rowland, our favorite online comic, had a design for a t-shirt that is apparently discontinued: a universal handicapped
symbol augmented with a peaked cover, and the words "Support Our Troops, All of Them." We have not been able to find it.
I work with homeless vets. I encourage everybody to give what they can to their local shelter, vet's programs... etc.
trifecta |
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01.12.08 - 7:15 pm | #
I work with homeless vets. I encourage everybody to give what they can to their local shelter, vet's programs... etc.
Nonono, see, they CHOOSE to be homeless.
Uncle NTodd |
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01.12.08 - 7:16 pm | #
My neighbor and friend is a Vietnam Vet who saw a lot of action. He's been able to deal with it and lives a normal life, fortunately. His right wing tendencies are slowly turning around. Even he realizes how badly Bush screwed up.
FeralLiberal |
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01.12.08 - 7:17 pm | #
That's what happens when you marry military men or even cops.
seed |
01.12.08 - 7:17 pm | #
last one, and no more about my issues, K?
Repair of optical nerve damage is a few years from getting out of the lab. But let me make an inquiry. Your dad is somewhere near Chicago, I assume.
shawk |
we've already been to the best. mom is faculty at the area med school, so no problems seeing the experts. bottom line: it's over, he's blind, deal with it. the case is that there is nothing to be done but "deal with it." and so i am. he was everything to me when i was a child/young adult, everything any person could ask for as a dad. i am going to prove to him how right he did by me and his family, and he won't want for anything, no matter what else may come. my last breath will be dedicated to making this true.
i now live in MI, to be close to him/them, and care for him and help them. it's what i know is right, and thus will do happily.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 7:17 pm | #
I work with homeless vets. I encourage everybody to give what they can to their local shelter, vet's programs... etc.
Nonono, see, they CHOOSE to be homeless.
Uncle NTodd
It's all Jane Fonda's fault.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 7:18 pm | #
Nonono, see, they CHOOSE to be homeless.
Uncle NTodd
Which is weird, considering their abundant options.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:18 pm | #
Yes ntodd. In fact, with a little moxie, they will be living in the burbs any day now.
trifecta |
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01.12.08 - 7:18 pm | #
Hasselbeck is horrible.
Ebenezer Le Page |
01.12.08 - 7:18 pm | #
I encourage everybody to give what they can to their local shelter, vet's programs... etc.
Yes and more. Write a card, go visit... etc. The human contact thingie.
Monty |
01.12.08 - 7:18 pm | #
he was everything to me when i was a child/young adult, everything any person could ask for as a dad. i am going to prove to him how right he did by me and his family, and he won't want for anything, no matter what else may come. my last breath will be dedicated to making this true.
Wow. Beautiful. Making crybaby cry.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:19 pm | #
It's all Jane Fonda's fault.
I should be receiving my poster signed by her soon!
Uncle NTodd |
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01.12.08 - 7:19 pm | #
I predict that this will be a short thread.
Tralfaz
I predict that I'll eat some corn bread.
Shaw Kenawe,Πεα |
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01.12.08 - 7:19 pm | #
how the VietNam war effectively destroyed male/female relations for an entire generation.
I'd be interested to read that sometime. I've had thoughts along the same line myself. I've had thoughts on that myself, though I've never formulated it out. But my older sister lost a fiance in Vietnam, and watching her subsequent dating life and the type of guy she eventually married makes that very plausible to me.
sister of ye |
01.12.08 - 7:19 pm | #
Hasselbeck is horrible.
Down 42-20 on the road in the snow is a recipe for suck.
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 7:19 pm | #
Hasselbeck is horrible.
The snow is in his face, and he has to make up a 37 touchdown deficit in under 10 minutes.
You'd be stressed too under those circumstances.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
01.12.08 - 7:19 pm | #
Refresing fizzie beverage to Tralfaz.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
01.12.08 - 7:20 pm | #
I turned on the game and there's a blank screen.
Did it snow that much in GB?
HoneyBearKelly |
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01.12.08 - 7:20 pm | #
I'd be curious to find out the homeless vet stats for MN. Seeing that most enlisted kids are from out-state (outside of the Twin Cities), it'd be interesting where they find themselves, homeless or not.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:20 pm | #
I thought you meant the stinky reich winger from the View
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.12.08 - 7:20 pm | #
Hasselbeck is horrible.
Ebenezer Le Page
Both of them.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 7:20 pm | #
Did it snow that much in GB?
It's snowing hard but game is still going...
FeralLiberal |
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01.12.08 - 7:21 pm | #
"The troops knew what they were getting into!"
"The troops signed up for this!"
/Jonah Goldberg, et al.
res ipsa loquitur |
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01.12.08 - 7:21 pm | #
Well, so far so good, football-wise. Favre is going to win this game. Now, let both Mannings triumph, and all the LA QB's will still be in it...
David Derbes, goofin' off |
01.12.08 - 7:21 pm | #
I thought you meant the stinky reich winger from the View
Gilly Gonzylon
Or the moronic fundie.
Tread |
01.12.08 - 7:22 pm | #
From Here to Eternity
Simple Mind |
01.12.08 - 7:22 pm | #
We're going to be dealing with broken young lives for a long time.
HoneyBearKelly |
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01.12.08 - 7:22 pm | #
Hasselbeck is horrible.
Ebenezer Le Page
Where’s his Messiah now, see ...
focus, founded |
01.12.08 - 7:22 pm | #
See, as awful and unwatchable as the View is normally, they do seem to have selected unusually worthless right-wingers as a kind of elitist joke. We know plenty of rightards who are respectably intelligent in difficult fields like medicine or physics; the only right-wingers Barbara Walters could find were these two airheads? It had to be deliberate. They're the kind of stupid where they have no idea how hilarious they sound.
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01.12.08 - 7:23 pm | #
Star Trek: The Next Generation had an episode about the consequences of warmongering, in the form of returning vets that a society refused to deal with.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
01.12.08 - 7:23 pm | #
Did it snow that much in GB?
See, this is why the state of Minnesota should pony up half a billion for a new outdoor Vikings stadium.
I like the set-up they've got in GB, with the whole public ownership bit. So...novel!
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:23 pm | #
Favre is going to win this game.
OK my me!
FeralLiberal-Cheesehead |
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01.12.08 - 7:23 pm | #
From Here to Eternity
...and the X-rate spin-off: From Here (Dick) to Maternity
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:23 pm | #
What will George Bush do about this?
mer |
01.12.08 - 7:24 pm | #
with the whole public ownership bit
Which is why it's next to impossible for the Packers to ever leave Green Bay. Gotta love that...
FeralLiberal-Cheesehead |
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01.12.08 - 7:24 pm | #
Our soldiers are heroes. And they're heroes because they won the war. Say it, or be complicit in their mental breakdown.
sack |
01.12.08 - 7:25 pm | #
awful and unwatchable-->Glen Beck par excellence. Fox has a highway billboard with a giant Glen Beck out on the highway,
Simple Mind |
01.12.08 - 7:25 pm | #
What will George Bush do about this?
What he always does. Ignore it.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
01.12.08 - 7:25 pm | #
Star Trek: The Next Generation had an episode about the consequences of warmongering, in the form of returning vets that a society refused to deal with.
Troi: Let's get out here before the physically-enhanced, brain-damaged warriors take their vengeance.
Picard: Make it so.
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:25 pm | #
Favre is from Mississippi.
Lurking Regular |
01.12.08 - 7:25 pm | #
"The troops knew what they were getting into!", "The troops signed up for this!"
Oh great, another reason to brain the son of Lucianne Moneymountain.
(Notice it is a policy of the editorial praesidium of the k&y collective to refer to these people who are wholly products of nepotism as "the son [or daughter] of [the relevant parent]," and not by their legal and unnecessray name. This is a good policy which should be more widely adopted.)
IIRC, the NFL won't permit public ownership of any other NFL teams.
jawbone |
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01.12.08 - 7:25 pm | #
with the whole public ownership bit
Which, once again, the Lords of the NFL will never allow to happen again.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
01.12.08 - 7:25 pm | #
Yeah, Feral.
Helps that the NFL eats this shit up (money-wise). I guess this new Clooney movie that's coming out is about the Duluth Eskimos, who later became the 'Skins.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:26 pm | #
We are complicit in their mental breakdown, you ignorant dunderpate.
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:26 pm | #
from Here to Eternity
No, just the violent, maladjusted losers that are the enlisted men, and their malevolent superiors.
Simple Mind |
01.12.08 - 7:26 pm | #
I know they don't mean to but sometimes K&Y crack me up.
HoneyBearKelly |
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01.12.08 - 7:27 pm | #
/Jonah Goldberg, et al.
res ipsa loquitur
He's a walking argument for conscription, that little weasel.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:27 pm | #
Some of these Green Bay players are acting retarded.
vince |
01.12.08 - 7:27 pm | #
IIRC, the NFL won't permit public ownership of any other NFL teams.
Of course, otherwise how could billionaires buy teams to be their playthings?
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.12.08 - 7:28 pm | #
Troi: Let's get out here before the physically-enhanced, brain-damaged warriors take their vengeance.
Picard: Make it so.
Oh, do you have to be going just yet? Stick around, maybe violate the prime directive and save our assess.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.12.08 - 7:28 pm | #
Well, the snow's not coming down as thickly as it was, smaller flakes I think.
jawbone |
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01.12.08 - 7:28 pm | #
Think they'll put the backup quarterback in for Favre?
jawbone |
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01.12.08 - 7:28 pm | #
As was mentioned above, the NFL will never let that happen again, Goddess forbid that team owners can't blackmail cities and cash in on threats to move...
FeralLiberal-Cheesehead |
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01.12.08 - 7:29 pm | #
Say it, or be complicit in their mental breakdown.
sack
Jump off a bridge.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:29 pm | #
save my assess
Lurking Regular |
01.12.08 - 7:29 pm | #
Our soldiers are heroes. And they're heroes because they won the war. Say it, or be complicit in their mental breakdown.
They haven't won the war, jack.
And they didn't win in Vietnam, either.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 7:29 pm | #
IIRC, the NFL won't permit public ownership of any other NFL teams.
But they will, of course, let us pay for $750 million stadiums. It's only fair, I guess.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:29 pm | #
The Pats will likely win by a similar score tonight.
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 7:29 pm | #
The one who did the sack dance?
jawbone |
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01.12.08 - 7:29 pm | #
But I hate Favre, and his cheese hat.
Ebenezer Le Page |
01.12.08 - 7:30 pm | #
'brain' is a good term to revive
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.12.08 - 7:30 pm | #
Star Trek: The Next Generation had an episode about the consequences of warmongering, in the form of returning vets that a society refused to deal with.
Yup. I always think of that one.
Uncle NTodd |
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01.12.08 - 7:30 pm | #
And they didn't win in Vietnam, either.
It always pisses us off to hear this crap about "winning militarily," especially when it comes from morons who don't know they difference between "storm" and inclement weather. Defeat is defeat.
looks like Faaaaaaaahhhh-VREY is going to the playoffs.
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 7:31 pm | #
Bunch of draft dodging sons of privilege broke the military, broke the constitution, broke a whole bunch of laws, killed and maimed hundreds of thousands, and sold the economy to the Chinese and Saudis, enriching themselves and their robbing thieves' brotherhood in the bargain.
Impeachment, conviction, and removal from office should be just the beginning for these crooks.
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sidhra صي ذ& |
01.12.08 - 7:31 pm | #
Goddess forbid that team owners can't blackmail cities and cash in on threats to move.
Right about now we might vote to move the Lions out of town.
sister of ye |
01.12.08 - 7:31 pm | #
trifecta, it's your turn (unless I'm once again missing something)
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:31 pm | #
The Vikings' last owner, Red McCombs, that sleaze from San Antonio, threatened to move the team to LA (which the NFL or LA ain't exactly eager about) if we didn't buy him a purdy new stadium. The state called his bluff, and he sold the team to a real estate developer from NJ (the Wilfs) for a handsome profit.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 7:31 pm | #
Favre is from Mississippi.
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This is true. However, his family is French, he's Catholic, and I'd bet a bunch of money he's got family in, and his family is from, Louisiana.
Hell, Gulfport is really just a New Orleans suburb.
David Derbes, goofin' off |
01.12.08 - 7:32 pm | #
I notice the li'l broken trollie always is compelled to post flurries of attacks under various nyms any time the consequences of Bush's war on the young men forced to fight it are addressed. Sad, really.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 7:32 pm | #
It was. Your turn now V.
Sorry, was putting the toddler in the tub.
trifecta |
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01.12.08 - 7:32 pm | #
Favre is like Rocky - he really can't into a game unless he's spotted the other team 14 pts to make his comeback more interesting.
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01.12.08 - 7:32 pm | #
sidhra I sent you an invite.
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01.12.08 - 7:32 pm | #
Defeat is defeat.
C'mon...! There's always an exception to the rule of thumb.
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01.12.08 - 7:32 pm | #
I worked with a Vietnam veteran in the 70s. We became friends. His wife told me he would hide under the bed at night. They moved, and I don't know what happened to them.
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01.12.08 - 7:32 pm | #
oh Virginia i should have got into that soc. worker thing.
the other day i had some minor surgery. two days actually. the second day when they were stitching me up all i could think about was torture. not that i was being tortured, but you know the times.
i was thinking how awful it'd be if you didn't know... and how the drs. were fuck'n sadists. which is all an exaggeration since they were curing me. but change the context a wee bit and you have monsters. more damaging to the perpetrators than the victims, i'm sure. pretty scary from either end of the table.
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01.12.08 - 7:32 pm | #
tralfaz, thank you for the link to "19." i put it up at corrente, thank you. every single vet in my family except me (the only erstwhile off) fit that bill, four generations back and counting.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 7:33 pm | #
What time does the New England game kick off?
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01.12.08 - 7:33 pm | #
Sorry, was putting the toddler in the tub.
trifecta
It kicks off in 30 minutes.
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01.12.08 - 7:34 pm | #
What time does the New England game kick off?
More importantly, will Heidi interrupt it?
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01.12.08 - 7:34 pm | #
notice the li'l broken trollie always is compelled to post flurries of attacks under various nyms any time the consequences of Bush's war on the young men forced to fight it are addressed. Sad, really.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant
His outrage always stops at his enlisting.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 7:34 pm | #
...who was the right-wing nutsack who claimed he had "a little girl to raise" in late 2002 while the warmongering about Iraq was going on?
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:34 pm | #
So Jonah, what would you do if you found a 9 year old kid setting booby traps like we did? And you knew someone who was killed by the same sort of trap.
Now there's a moral dilemma for your doughy pantload.
I had better go watch cartoons for awhile. Or play with puppies or something.
L8r
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01.12.08 - 7:34 pm | #
Right about now we might vote to move the Lions out of town
any time the consequences of Bush's war on the young men forced to fight it are addressed. Sad, really.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant
Guilt. For cheerleading the deaths of others to make their tiny penii hard.
The rule that they accuse the left of whatever it is they ARE doing applies ("You hate the troops, you cowards!")
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01.12.08 - 7:35 pm | #
if atrios had any soul, he's post from at least one or two of these collections. oh well. he has a balcony, and i don't. so there's that.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 7:37 pm | #
god help me.
my mother and sister are making watch the first 30 minutes of "Titanic".
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01.12.08 - 7:37 pm | #
Right about now we might vote to move the Lions out of town
Check it out now, funk soul brothers.
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01.12.08 - 7:37 pm | #
...who was the right-wing nutsack who claimed he had "a little girl
to raise" in late 2002 while the warmongering about Iraq was going on?
His actual verbatim response is worth remembering. He fumbled and uhhh'd in naturalistic speech representation and literally admitted that he didn't have a reason to not sign up.
During the Jessica Lynch Rescue melodrama, all the rightwingers one of my discussion boards were all "Poor, poor Jessica" and it fell to me, the ultraliberal to point out she was a soldier and they should refer to her as "Private Lynch."
...feh.
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01.12.08 - 7:38 pm | #
Go Pack - Gotta love it!
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01.12.08 - 7:38 pm | #
It kicks off in 30 minutes.
Which means I'm off to the local. Go Patsies!
sidhra صي ذ& |
01.12.08 - 7:38 pm | #
Is that like New Order's back to mine?
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01.12.08 - 7:38 pm | #
Military men and police are rank in the top of domestic abusers.
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01.12.08 - 7:39 pm | #
my mother and sister are making watch the first 30 minutes of "Titanic".
Can you just hang out here with us?
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01.12.08 - 7:39 pm | #
tralfaz, thank you for the link to "19." i put it up at corrente, thank you. every single vet in my family except me (the only erstwhile off) fit that bill, four generations back and counting.
chicago dyke, foily
No problem. My family luckily was out of phase with the Vietnam era. My father was orphaned at age 5 when his dad, an Army infantryman, died in the Netherlands late in the war. His dad was in his mid-30s. He's buried in Margraten US Cemetery near Maastricht. The whole family has been to his grave (me twice). My parents were there the week of 9-11-01.
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01.12.08 - 7:39 pm | #
my mother and sister are making watch the first 30 minutes of "Titanic".
watertiger
but it's a romance and a disaster movie!
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01.12.08 - 7:39 pm | #
Gonna be a tough year. I keep asking my self, are we there yet? are we there yet?
November seems sooooo far away.
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01.12.08 - 7:39 pm | #
War is so wrong for so many reasons. But the survivors of war probably suffer the most.
And I'm not talking about the higher ups who aren't on the front getting shot at.
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01.12.08 - 7:40 pm | #
my mother and sister are making watch the first 30 minutes of "Titanic".
Make them watch it in deck chairs!
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01.12.08 - 7:40 pm | #
my mother and sister are making watch the first 30 minutes of "Titanic". watertiger
I suggest you counter by making them watch all of "That Sinking Feeling."
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01.12.08 - 7:40 pm | #
"When you play games, EVERYONE wins!"
who are these copywriters?
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 7:40 pm | #
November seems sooooo far away.
And the seas boiled.
And the skies fell.
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:40 pm | #
I think it's unlikely, but I'd like to see the Patriots lose.
Their running up the score in the early part of the season was ugly, and Belichick's taping was also ugly. Unlovable team. Talented as hell, to be sure.
David Derbes, goofin' off |
01.12.08 - 7:40 pm | #
I've got a Petite Sirah I can share...
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01.12.08 - 7:40 pm | #
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 7:39 pm |
Those are some lucky tragedies.
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01.12.08 - 7:41 pm | #
Check it out now, funk soul brothers.
Talk about an earworm...
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01.12.08 - 7:41 pm | #
chicago dyke, foily
Optical nerve regeneration.
A while away from common use. Probably.
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01.12.08 - 7:41 pm | #
Chronister served in Iraq and Afghanistan and has been missing from his Bibb County apartment near Lake Tobesofkee since Nov. 10, 2007. His 1997 teal green Ford Ranger was found Nov. 19, 2007, at an Acworth gas station, according to Bibb Police.
He is known to become disoriented and suffer memory loss, and was scheduled to see a new doctor at the veteran's hospital in Macon on Nov. 14, 2007, according to Ms. Futrell.
An unsuccessful search effort involving 37 people was held Saturday in northwest Cobb, after a reported sighting of him last week in the middle of Stilesboro Road in Acworth near the Stilesboro Biscuits restaurant.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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01.12.08 - 7:41 pm | #
Liberals want people to control themselves.
Conservatives want to control other people.
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:41 pm | #
any way to remove chimpy's power of the pardon?
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01.12.08 - 7:42 pm | #
I suggest you counter by making them watch all of "That Sinking Feeling."
I'd like to force them to watch Gilligan's Island.
going well is 40-60 Americans dying a month and $6-8 billion spent a month....
and for what???
But it is going well.
No legitimate story about the war should omit the monthly cost in lives and bucks. NONE.
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01.12.08 - 7:44 pm | #
There are young women coming back broken too.
Just as sadly true. (Damn my inherent sexism!)
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01.12.08 - 7:44 pm | #
He is known to become disoriented and suffer memory loss, and was scheduled to see a new doctor at the veteran's hospital in Macon on Nov. 14, 2007, according to Ms. Futrell.
Oh, fuck.
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01.12.08 - 7:44 pm | #
I wish to report that today I acquired what may be the very finest 10" cast aluminium Roseli grill pan on earth. Actually -made- in Italy.... Marshall's is really superb in this sort of thing - and from now on I can make my own tortillas! Grill anything!
My life is now complete.
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01.12.08 - 7:45 pm | #
Those are some lucky tragedies.
kei & yuri
Indeed. Having been to Europe, they seem to have learned more from their tragedies than we have. Mr's T and I were at Margraten a couple of years ago on the coldest, iciest winter day you could imagine. We were the only tourists there. But the place had constant traffic from local people tending adopted grave sites, as they have since the cemetery was established. This was a humbling sight to see.
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 7:45 pm | #
"surge is going well"--cnn expert.
"that's a big fat lie." -- robert wexler
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if atrios had any soul, he's post from at least one or two of these collections. oh well. he has a balcony, and i don't. so there's that.
chicago dyke, foily
I wonder if I've run into you at The Closet?
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01.12.08 - 7:45 pm | #
shawk, they had to laser his eyes dead so they wouldn't explode with blood, but thanks. really. i appreciate your progressive values a great deal, and youprove why it's worth my time to come here. i hope it helps someone else.
Is that like New Order's back to mine?
kei & yuri
uhuh. i have several, but not all. da series do rawk. or roll. or something. it's a concept i'd like to see more widespread. for those who don't know: the series asks a famous artist/band and says, "put together a disc of what you groove to at home, when your hoist a brew/toke a bowl and lounge with your friends and loved ones. fuck big corp input, tell us what you like."
many fine artists have participated.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 7:46 pm | #
and from now on I can make my own tortillas! Grill anything!
Can I come for dinner?
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01.12.08 - 7:46 pm | #
that was just said by one of the members of the"greatest political team on earth."
first name was chris. i didnt catch his last name. said the usual unsupported crap as if it were fact.
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01.12.08 - 7:47 pm | #
Ruh-roh.
Zapette's putting "I, Engineer" on her Facebook thingy.
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01.12.08 - 7:47 pm | #
My life is now complete.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
So you got the ricer/masher?
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:47 pm | #
I think it's unlikely, but I'd like to see the Patriots lose.
I was born in Boston, and well recall the AFC days, the playing at Fenway, at BU Stadium, Billy Sullivan, the near-move to Hartford, the years of abject awfulness. I love my Patsies, and I don't care.
Now I'm going to watch them play the Jaguars. I'm hoping for a victory, but I never expect much.
sidhra صي ذ& |
01.12.08 - 7:47 pm | #
Michael Pollan has been on CSPAN2 talking about the suckiness of the modern foodindustrial complex. He was at the Free Liberry in Philly a couple days ago.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 7:47 pm | #
...okay, wish me luck. I'm going to watch "Atonement." Hope it's good.
Darryl, old at 47? |
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01.12.08 - 7:48 pm | #
this is the CNN show called ....
"this week at war"--sponsored by something called "Clean Coal"
even funnier-that.
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01.12.08 - 7:49 pm | #
"fabled DLC"; well kids, a vote for the DLC is a vote for the Republicans.
I'm pullin' the lever for Obama in IL so that Hillary moves a few more millimeters to the left. And if Obama winds up with the nomination, OK.
David Derbes, goofin' off |
01.12.08 - 7:49 pm | #
I'd like to see the Jags win. But..... na ga ha pen.
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 7:51 pm | #
I wonder if I've run into you at The Closet?
Tread
yes, but only a few times. racist pricks/cunts.
last time i was there, my white gf got served twice before i did. and i had cash on the bar, and a smile on my face. and she is uglier than i am, but never mind that.
they hate niggers there, i'll never go back. Berlin is my home. i own two podiums, several bartenders, and not a few foolish thrill-seeking execs there.
and DJ Chester, like me, is (made from) from Detroit. take that, chicago. he brought you light and the True Sound, and you know it. /tosses hair/ chester calls me a 'personal friend' and lets me go behind the booth with him. as do several lesbo djs from crowbar and exit, but that's another story...
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01.12.08 - 7:51 pm | #
more on the missing vet in cobb county:
Chronister, 33, returned from Iraq in September 2003. But shortly after, his mental health began deteriorating.
Before Iraq he was "a happy-go-lucky, fun guy. He was very engaged with his nieces and nephews," she said
After Iraq, he withdrew more and more. Lately he has been obsessed with "cleansing the toxins from his body. He felt the toxins caused his mental illness," Futrell said.
i suspect he is not the only one - i only heard about him because it is a local story. and, of course, there is the suicide epidemic among veterans as well.
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01.12.08 - 7:51 pm | #
"surge is going well"--cnn expert.
So "surge" is now a permanent condition, not a quick bulge?
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01.12.08 - 7:51 pm | #
So you got the ricer/masher?
V for Virginia, free at last!
No. But I also got a 1.5 lb size bread pan and, AND, the last doughnut cutter at Ace Hardware. 'Cause I took the LA Times at its word as to the very, very best deep fat fryers and bought a Go Daddy at Sears and have in my hand the standard receipt for sliders .... And to-morrow is the day. I have fryer, I have canoodle oil, I have yeast, I have doughnut cutter.... To-morrow - DOUGHNUTS!
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01.12.08 - 7:52 pm | #
Visual analog to back to mine series: in the book www.HRGiger.com (this is a book title modelled after a URL), there is a section with some of Giger's personal art collection from other people. It is as fracking amazing as you would expect. One favorite piece at the end has a Mexican block print representation of Mr Death's week, sporting a penultimate rest at a cafe in a nice suit and ending with the skeleton taken apart by dogs who view it as mere bones. Another has an impossibly soft colored pencil representation of a little girl nearly contacting a hummingbird with a cherry in its beak. There is a lifelike surrealist painting from a French artist with tremendous clams on meathooks in some strange but totally credible workroom. And there is the frenetic Joe Coleman's voodoun portrait of Charlie Manson.
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01.12.08 - 7:53 pm | #
It's cold and snowy here tonight, but the Packers won, and I have a beef/vegetable dish simmering in my tagine.
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01.12.08 - 7:53 pm | #
oil, I have yeast, I have doughnut cutter.... To-morrow - DOUGHNUTS!
A new troubling myth has taken hold in Washington and it is critical that the record is set straight. According to the mainstream media, Republicans, and unfortunately even some Democrats, the President's surge in Iraq has been a resounding success. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth.
Sidrha, Boston is a terrific town, and my dislike of the Patriots does not extend to their city or their fans. (Well, Foxborough, but near enough.)
What a wonderful city for books Boston and Cambridge used to be... Cambridge still has the Harvard Book Store (not the Coop) and Schoenhof's, and Somerville has McIntyre and Moore, but it ain't the same, dammit...
David Derbes, goofin' off |
01.12.08 - 7:55 pm | #
So "surge" is now a permanent condition, not a quick bulge?
If your erection lasts more than 12 months, see a doctor.
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01.12.08 - 7:55 pm | #
To-morrow - DOUGHNUTS!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
FedEx 'em while they're hot!
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01.12.08 - 7:55 pm | #
"surge is going well"--cnn expert.
What does this mean?
It means the wholesale hiring of young Sunni men by US taxpayers in the Western provinces.
Cost of war in Iraq climbs from $2 billion a week to $3 billion. Afghanistan probably $.5 billion a week. How this is able to be sustained, I'll never know.
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01.12.08 - 7:56 pm | #
they hate niggers there, i'll never go back. Berlin is my home. i own two podiums, several bartenders, and not a few foolish thrill-seeking execs there.
and DJ Chester, like me, is (made from) from Detroit. take that, chicago. he brought you light and the True Sound, and you know it. /tosses hair/ chester calls me a 'personal friend' and lets me go behind the booth with him. as do several lesbo djs from crowbar and exit, but that's another story...
I live at Berlin on the weekends!!!! It's one of my favorite places on earth.
Chester and Greg Haus are two of my favorite DJs in Chicago. They do a wondrous job and should be more famous than they are. I am happy to call them close personal friends.
Tread |
01.12.08 - 7:57 pm | #
Oooh. I just earned a pair of Safari pants!
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01.12.08 - 7:57 pm | #
Auntie G, be very very careful of the hot oil. My late mother, a brilliant cook and ex-emergency room RN, was terrified when I made Pillsbury doughnuts in my youth; she well remembered the horrific burns associated with boiling oil... Back then I was a pretty fair garage chemist, and didn't get hurt with that. Other things, well, that's another story. One left a scorch on my ceiling, but the world is not yet ready for the story of the Giant Rat of Metairie...
David Derbes, goofin' off |
01.12.08 - 7:58 pm | #
many fine artists have participated.
chicago dyke, foily
That sounds verrrry interesting.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 7:58 pm | #
I am so sick of hearing about how we support the troops. Bullshit.
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01.12.08 - 7:59 pm | #
Dunkin Atrios-Donut, back from his 439th tour of duty at Philly's Tangier Bar, berates the men and women serving in Iraq and protecting his sorry, stupid, lily-white ass and that of his children, if any...
ChiDy is your dad's blindness a result of diabetes?
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01.12.08 - 8:00 pm | #
What time do I need to show up with the cinnamon?
therealhellkitty
I figure, before church. About 9am okay?
(And I also have a receipt for teh jelly doughnuts!!!!)
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
01.12.08 - 8:00 pm | #
Aw, the li'l broken trollie must have finished his dindins and is back to attack the troops.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:00 pm | #
Bring salsa.
D'oh, I don't have any more garden tomatoes. Curse this Wisconsin weather...
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01.12.08 - 8:01 pm | #
The private war of women soldiers
Spc. Mickiela Montoya, 21, who was in Iraq with the National Guard in 2005, took to carrying a knife with her at all times. "The knife wasn't for the Iraqis," she told me. "It was for the guys on my own side."
.............
Last year, Col. Janis Karpinski caused a stir by publicly reporting that in 2003, three female soldiers had died of dehydration in Iraq, which can get up to 126 degrees in the summer, because they refused to drink liquids late in the day. They were afraid of being raped by male soldiers if they walked to the latrines after dark.
................
As the highest-ranking official to lose her job over the torture scandal, she claims she was scapegoated, and has become an outspoken critic of the military's treatment of women. In turn, the Army has accused her of sour grapes.)
After Iraq, he withdrew more and more. Lately he has been obsessed with
"cleansing the toxins from his body. He felt the toxins caused his
mental illness," Futrell said.
Well. There is a lot of truth to this. American free market nonsense has permitted our drinking water, our hygiene products and our food to be filled with poisonous garbage. For years aspartame was all but officially declared to be a dangerous carcinogen; its final death knell was scheduled just as Jimmy Carter was leaving office; and what should President Reagan bring with him but a new FDA staff who rush-approved aspartame as a sugar substitute?A recent consumer advocate guy, it wasn't Eric Schlosser, notes that in an American shampoo factory there is a parallel production line, one for the American version and the other for the European version which is free of all the crap the Ameican one is allowed to contain. We have felt consistently better after switching to Dr Bronner's soaps (also endorsed by Rowland's Overcompensating) and taking lots of real vitamins.* The American diet isn't just bad for your waistline, it actually depresses you.
*the ultra cheap ones at WalMart have aspartame. What the hell kind of moron puts asparatame in a product only sold to people who care about nutrition? The morons running Wal Mart.
Did I mention I've ordered a copy of _Teh Donut Book_ by Jane Stern? When I have these fads, I go to town, I admit it.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
01.12.08 - 8:02 pm | #
Another member of the Chickenhawk Brigade of the 101st Keyboard Kommandos is heard from.
Another one whose outrage stops short of his enlisting.
Protecting us? Protecting us from WHAT?
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 8:02 pm | #
Called to dinner, TTFN
David Derbes, goofin' off |
01.12.08 - 8:02 pm | #
(And I also have a receipt for teh jelly doughnuts!!!!)
shit, that means we know each other. have you gone to any of Ben and Troy's parties? do you know asa, kris, or "michelle?" or been to our hyde park parties with (the) greg(s) and his crew? they've drunk a lot of my beer.
tell chester i said hi, and how much i miss him. i can't go back to see him soon enough.
k&y: thanks, and done.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 8:03 pm | #
The private war of women soldiers
fighting for their right to be treated as second class citizens.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 8:03 pm | #
k&y:
eek! you need to make a bubble for yourselves to live in...
'Ello!
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:06 pm | #
Cool, local PBS station is showing "The Magnificent Seven"
FeralLiberal-Cheesehead |
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01.12.08 - 8:06 pm | #
What the hell kind of moron puts asparatame in a product only sold to people who care about nutrition? The morons running Wal Mart.
The same ones who use gelatin capsules, a big screw you to vegetarians?
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:06 pm | #
shit, that means we know each other. have you gone to any of Ben and Troy's parties? do you know asa, kris, or "michelle?" or been to our hyde park parties with (the) greg(s) and his crew? they've drunk a lot of my beer.
tell chester i said hi, and how much i miss him. i can't go back to see him soon enough.
chicago dyke, foily
We very likely have met each other or at least seen each other there. I run in different circles than they do, but I'm always happy to see them. Do you know Fred?
Tread |
01.12.08 - 8:06 pm | #
"Support The Troops" has always meant one thing only: Support Bush's war or shut the fuck up.
another rhetorical device to shut down all discourse and opposition.
sounds good. extra strength Vietnamese sound good to you?
k&y - This morning I was thinking, as I looked at various products on my counter, that I really need to learn cosmetic Spanish. So many things I have here that are coming thru the South American/European pipeline - wonderful soaps that aren't available in the US pipe, hair care, facial things - when I go to look for them online I learn that they are infinitely more pure, delicate and beneficial than their US analogues.... Bars of Nivea soap that one cannot obtain thru the US pipe, but thru the SA lines.... If I could only fully grasp the instructions....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
01.12.08 - 8:06 pm | #
GW- tell me about your church. do your really go to one? why? what is said there? what kind of people attend? i'm interested.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 8:07 pm | #
David Derbes, goofin' off
I remember when I was a kid there was a store around the corner from me where they had take out seafood.
Lady who owned the place with her husband got very badly burned the deep fryer tipping over and the oil spilling on her legs.
Back then (early 1960s) they didn't know as much about burns as they do now.
She died when the burns got infected.
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01.12.08 - 8:07 pm | #
That image is right up there with the one from the SOTU when all those congressfolk held up their purple fingers as one the most sickening displays of anything that I've seen in the last seven years.
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01.12.08 - 8:07 pm | #
I am so sick of hearing about how we support the troops. Bullshit.
Becca
not bullshit.
well, the sententious epigram and it's jingoistic nature is bullshit.
those are real kids, shooting, and getting shot at with real bullets.
charley/ liberal sociopath |
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01.12.08 - 8:08 pm | #
and let me say that my house is full of ladybugs. They come in for the winter and I have one walking on my desk right now.
therealhellkitty |
01.12.08 - 8:08 pm | #
Gee, Dimocrat candidates hardly talk about the NUTROOT WET BUNCHED-PANTIE ISSUE: Iraq.
"Support The Troops" has always meant one thing only: Support Bush's war or shut the fuck up.
another rhetorical device to shut down all discourse and opposition.
therealhellkitty
Case in point: Those ugly magnet ribbons (made in China) that ORDER everyone to "support the troops."
Bush & Co. certainly don't support the troops.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 8:08 pm | #
"Bridge Over the River Kwai" on TCM!
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 8:08 pm | #
GWPDA
Are you thinking about trying Beignets?
FeralLiberal-Cheesehead
Used to make them, years ago, in an open pot. Now - I shall not be enflamed! And sopaipillas! Life is good.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
01.12.08 - 8:08 pm | #
Bridge on the River Kwai coming up on TCM.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
01.12.08 - 8:09 pm | #
Sin is in !
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.12.08 - 8:09 pm | #
This is the Democrat running for Hagel's seat in NE.
Pfft, I guess. If you like that sort of thing.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:12 pm | #
[slides a beer over to Sinfonian]
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 8:13 pm | #
Sinners have much more fun.
"I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints.."
FeralLiberal-Cheesehead
William Donahue is still whining about that song 30 years later.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 8:13 pm | #
GWPDA, We used to take an annual canoe trip in northern Maine for a week or so. Someone always insisted that we carry oil and mix for fresh doughnuts. Mmmm...camping doughnuts on cold nights around the fire.
And it's well known that hot doughnuts are good for you.
Gromit |
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01.12.08 - 8:13 pm | #
This is the Democrat running for Hagel's seat in NE.
Tasty.
(Yeah, I'm shallow)
HoneyBearKelly
Would you hit it™?
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:13 pm | #
I wish the people of this country would wise up and never go to war for these rich fuckers again.
warondandruff |
01.12.08 - 8:13 pm | #
The local or not so Kreen grocery is one of our essentials for life. In fact recently we found an excellent one out in Rochester (a mcmansion Bloomfield Hills, which is a Nouveau Riche Grosse Pointe) along with the Greatest Liquor Store in the World. TGLSITW has no sig out front, in fact the thing that is supposed to be the sign is missing the glass part where the name would be, but once you enter you are confronted with a library of bottles representing every different kind of booze, requiring one of those attached wheeled ladders old-fashioned libraries always had. Real Kreen soju $12 or less for a fifth and less than $20 for a half gallon.
kei & yuri |
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01.12.08 - 8:13 pm | #
trend, let's do this more privately. anheduanna AT hawt-mail dot cum.
i don't think i know 'fred,' unless that's another name for a person who occasionally uses that nym. but if you know the rest, then yes- we know each other. funny! do you remember NOLA "Bart?" tall, southern, rich and blonde? he was a scream, no doubt, and told me i could make money as a "skeez3r." how 'bout miss foozie? i have a photo of her, me and a gf on my wall right now. with barbie helmets and tennis rackets and plastic wrap! and then: circuit, in the Olde Days. the swimming pool days, when a grrl had to push past an hour long line/loin to the 'women's' room. there is no platform in boystown i haven't own3d. cept at charlies, feh. i don't do "cowboy/pony" outside of IML.
oh, those were the days...
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 8:13 pm | #
Comment by Lubyanka blocked. [unkill][show comment]
Thanks. I'll drink it right after this one.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:14 pm | #
William Donahue is still whining about that song 30 years later
And he still isn't having any fun...
FeralLiberal-Cheesehead |
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01.12.08 - 8:14 pm | #
GW- tell me about your church. do your really go to one? why? what is said there? what kind of people attend? i'm interested.
chicago dyke, foily
I don't, darling. I've been unchurched for some years - when the United Presbyterians re-amalgamated with the Southern Presbyterians and my good grey reasonable faith suddenly wasn't adequate for the community of Chuy.... I miss it, a little - but as a really thorough Presbyterian I learnt that I didn't actually require the community to be faithful. Also, the coffee hours got really crappy. And there was a whole bunch of weird snake and speaking in tongues stuff which was hardly suitable for a daughter of the Kirk.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |
01.12.08 - 8:14 pm | #
That image is right up there with the one from the SOTU when all those congressfolk held up their purple fingers as one the most sickening displays of anything that I've seen in the last seven years.
Zap R
and the high powered dems rolled over. Makes you wonder who to support.
1Watt, Hermit |
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01.12.08 - 8:15 pm | #
k&y: This is an updating of "America: Love It Or Leave It," a bumper sticker which which in Nixon's day meant criticism need not be made.
I've been using it with wingers who bitch about being too highly taxed.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.12.08 - 8:15 pm | #
Tasty.
(Yeah, I'm shallow)
HoneyBearKelly |
Mommy, buy me that!
Terry C - Edwards 2008
No shopping!
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"Support the troops" means "submit to the will of the mighty codpiece" in exactly the same way that the American flag has been usurped to mean "don't criticize the government."
I've really had it with this shit. I want my fucking flag back.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:15 pm | #
Wasn't there a band called "Tastes Like Chicken?"
res ipsa loquitur |
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01.12.08 - 8:18 pm | #
Mmmm...camping doughnuts on cold nights around the fire.
And it's well known that hot doughnuts are good for you.
Gromit
Oh, great, Mr. V is gonna shit when I announce that we have to make doughnuts in camp . . .
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:18 pm | #
"Bridge Over the River Kwai" on TCM!
watertiger
prolly the greatest "war" movie ever made. which is why i own it.
...i may have to go groove, all this talk of the High Days of 90s dancing silliness...anyone want to join me? we have one gay club around here, it's early.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 8:18 pm | #
Wasn't there a band called "Tastes Like Chicken?"
I'd be willing to bet that there's about five in every major metropolitan area...
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 8:18 pm | #
Here they come, whistling that tune...
Comet, it tastes like gasoline
Comet, it makes your teeth turn green.
Comet, it makes you vomit,
So drink your Comet and vomit today!
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 8:19 pm | #
Nutroots:
"What's wrong with stealing money from those who earn it?
It's called 'taxation.'
Get used to it, assholes!"
Lubyanka |
01.12.08 - 8:19 pm | #
...i may have to go groove, all this talk of the High Days of 90s dancing silliness...anyone want to join me? we have one gay club around here, it's early.
chicago dyke, foily
I was lurking earlier today and saw you might not come to Eschacon. I would be disappointed, as I was looking forward to taking you up on your dancing (and breast pressing) offer. I could use that right about now.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:19 pm | #
Gromit -- what's your e-mail again? I meant to add you but trifecta was making great plays and pissing me off. Plus I'm kinda h i g h.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:19 pm | #
The amazing thing about the Times article is the way the Pentagon Bushies first admit that they don't give a shit about veterans, then tell the Times what assholes they are for asking.
Alan in SF |
01.12.08 - 8:19 pm | #
The Atlanta Journal Constitution. “For the fourth consecutive day, people waited in long lines Thursday for a shot at a job at a new Wal-Mart in DeKalb County, pushing the total number of applicants beyond 10,000.”
“That’s four times the entire population of Avondale Estates, the community next to the planned Memorial Drive store.”
“Beginning Monday, after virtually no advertising or any signs, the throngs of hopeful applicants continued to pour into a church converted into a job processing center — all vying for only 350 to 400 available jobs, according to Wal-Mart officials.”
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01.12.08 - 8:20 pm | #
Comet, it makes your mouth turn blue,
Comet, it makes you stick like glue..
"Support the troops" means "submit to the will of the mighty codpiece" in exactly the same way that the American flag has been usurped to mean "don't criticize the government."
Here's what I say to the lot of them.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:21 pm | #
(·)(·)
wŇÓ†
Pretty!
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:21 pm | #
trend, let's do this more privately.
Absolutely. Sending as I type this.
Tread |
01.12.08 - 8:22 pm | #
...i may have to go groove, all this talk of the High Days of 90s dancing silliness...anyone want to join me?
chicago dyke, foily | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 8:18 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
Also, the coffee hours got really crappy. And there was a whole bunch of weird snake and speaking in tongues stuff which was hardly suitable for a daughter of the Kirk
i'm so sorry. i miss my ole div school congregants, even given all their foolish liturgies. the sense of 'community.' sigh.
you're of the kirk? no wonder you're so smart...
i just watched ep 3 of 'monarch of the glen.' sob, if i can't be jewish, i wish i were a High Highlander (who was also high).
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 8:24 pm | #
“Beginning Monday, after virtually no advertising or any signs, the throngs of hopeful applicants continued to pour into a church converted into a job processing center — all vying for only 350 to 400 available jobs, according to Wal-Mart officials.”
nona
This. Is. Not. Good.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:24 pm | #
Favre just scored a touchdown against New England
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.12.08 - 8:24 pm | #
Short of the first!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.12.08 - 8:25 pm | #
we substituted "Ajax" for "Comet" in that verse.
Local vernacular.
Sort of like "Great big globs of greasy grimy gofer guts..."
FeralLiberal-Cheesehead |
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01.12.08 - 8:25 pm | #
Gromit look for me on Sinf's friends list and send me a request.
HoneyBearKelly
HBK-- This is what I don't understand about Facebook: How do I know it's you when I see you?
Gromit |
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01.12.08 - 8:25 pm | #
The best novel of the present decade is David Peace's Tokyo Year Zero,
which would certainly interest fans of Bridge Over the River Kwai. It's about Japanese war criminals trying to hide in the police departments.
HBK-- This is what I don't understand about Facebook: How do I know it's you when I see you?
HBK's easy to figure out. The pic gives it away.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 8:26 pm | #
The Atlanta Journal Constitution. “For the fourth consecutive day, people waited in long lines Thursday for a shot at a job at a new Wal-Mart in DeKalb County, pushing the total number of applicants beyond 10,000.”
I had another in a series of "Fuck. You." moments listening to NicePoliteRepublicans this morning. They gave several minutes to some asshole financial type to explain patiently how great the economy is and how great Bush has been for creating jobs and besides you don't really want a lot of people working anyway because then they ask for more money and you can't just fire them and hire some other sucker and then that's bad for everyone. I'm paraphrasing. Slightly.
Then I read Krugman's material from this week on the same topic, handily refuting every assholic point being pushed by the authoritarian fringe.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:26 pm | #
It's about Japanese war criminals trying to hide in the police departments.
kei & yuri
Oooooooo. Book list!
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:26 pm | #
This. Is. Not. Good.
But the economy is strong! Bush and all the GOPer Candidates say so!
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
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01.12.08 - 8:26 pm | #
V for Virginia, My email is gromit14 at mac dot com. Thanks!
Gromit |
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01.12.08 - 8:26 pm | #
i would massage you and read you sumerian poetry, if you were near. alas, we must be apart, and i must dance alone this night, orange heels and all. you, dear little FL progressive captive to JEB, whom i dream to put in drag and film with Ntodd, crying beneath my whips...um, JEB, not you.
You just reminded me of something. On the night of the NH primary, Tweety compared some repuke candidate to fucking T.E. Lawrence.
Who the hell was it? It was insane.
res ipsa loquitur |
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01.12.08 - 8:28 pm | #
War is not awesome. The weather in LA today, however, was.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
01.12.08 - 8:28 pm | #
Apropos of Kwai, I read once that William Holden is the referent Suzanne Vega mentioned in Tom's Diner.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:29 pm | #
GWPDA: Teh kuhl. Alec Guinness as 'Ross'.
WHo's playing Rachael and Joey?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.12.08 - 8:29 pm | #
War is not awesome. The weather in LA today, however, was.
i would massage you and read you sumerian poetry, if you were near. alas, we must be apart, and i must dance alone this night, orange heels and all. you, dear little FL progressive captive to JEB, whom i dream to put in drag and film with Ntodd, crying beneath my whips...um, JEB, not you.
I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:30 pm | #
War is not awesome. The weather in LA today, however, was.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 01.12.08 - 8:28 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
I woke up at 4 But hey, I'll bet tomorrow will be nice as well
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.12.08 - 8:30 pm | #
Oh dear, Janet must be out meeting with her book club tonight.
They have book clubs in the stock room at the local Wal*mart?
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 8:31 pm | #
Tweety compared some repuke candidate to fucking T.E. Lawrence.
Ah yes, Mitt Romney is clearly an effete young homosexual Orientalist with mastery of the Eastern languages and plaguing recurring contempt of his native race, with careful relations to the greater literary minds of his time.
Zap, we had to open the doors and windows and I wore sandals
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
01.12.08 - 8:32 pm | #
It's about Japanese war criminals trying to hide in the police departments.
kei & yuri
sorta like various naz-eez in the cia post ww2, but never mind that now.
all right, batz. i'll shut up now. have a good one. love each other, for it's all that is good in this world.
chicago dyke, foily |
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01.12.08 - 8:32 pm | #
William Holden was so . . . glistening.
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 8:32 pm | #
We shook his hand once, you know.
kei & yuri |
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01.12.08 - 8:32 pm | #
Who the hell was it? It was insane.
res ipsa loquitur
I dunno, but Jon stewart devoted a lot of time to it, and then CNN picked up Stewart and was playing it, and JS saying "that man is insane."
Tweety may have jumped the shark.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.12.08 - 8:33 pm | #
The weather in LA today, however, was.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Here, too. And yet I somehow feel that I should be suffering a little, and so couldn't enjoy it.
(We actually need a little coldness.)
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:33 pm | #
William Holden was so . . . glistening.
watertiger |
"Support the troops" means "submit to the will of the mighty codpiece" in exactly the same way that the American flag has been usurped to mean "don't criticize the government."
I've really had it with this shit. I want my fucking flag back.
V for Virginia, free at last!
If these fuckers couldn't shut me when I was barely out of my teens during Vietnam, they sure as hell ain't gonna make me shut up now.
These uber-patriots can all go get fucked.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 8:34 pm | #
What's the line on this game?
joey
Pats -13 last I saw.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:34 pm | #
A coffee table book about William Holden would be in bad taste.
WalterNeff, loser |
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01.12.08 - 8:34 pm | #
Brady sacked.
Damned at Random
33 yd gain
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.12.08 - 8:34 pm | #
Time for me to inject myself with Lizard Spit and have some soup.
we had to open the doors and windows and I wore sandals
Actually, for January, it wasn't too bad today. Almost 30!
Plus, I woke up to some very purdy flurries. Fewer things I like more than a super-quiet dawn breaking with some snow falling. Just beautiful.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 8:35 pm | #
(We actually need a little coldness.)
V for Virginia, free at last!
I'd be happy to share mine.
Sinfonian, dog sitting
[hugs Sinfonian in a stifling manner until he says "uncle"]
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:35 pm | #
Told my niece (from Boston) I'd take a drink for every Pat 1st down. She is to call me when the game is over & see if I am still coherent.
Damned at Random |
01.12.08 - 8:35 pm | #
Sallyh: Been watching football?
Only half-heartedly. I have eight months to go before I can get really interested, again.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.12.08 - 8:36 pm | #
Ah, but the point of Paperclip was to knowingly hire Nazis, whereas these war criminals were hiding from successful Nazi MacArthur (and if you object to that use of the Nazi term flinging, consider his solution to Korea was to totally destroy the peninsula, render it uninhabitable and poison the Chinese and Russians with the resulting radiation).
kei & yuri |
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01.12.08 - 8:36 pm | #
All desserts eaten in the presence of friends a) have no calories and b) taste even better.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
01.12.08 - 8:36 pm | #
About a third of the victims were spouses, girlfriends, children or other relatives, among them 2-year-old Krisiauna Calaira Lewis, whose 20-year-old father slammed her against a wall when he was recuperating in Texas from a bombing near Falluja that blew off his foot and shook up his brain.
I hate this war.
Monica_A: Don't Tase Me |
01.12.08 - 8:37 pm | #
I'm watching the Office UK on DVD and I had to turn on the subtitles
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.12.08 - 8:37 pm | #
War is not awesome. The weather in LA today, however, was.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
A step in the right direction would be to close down the VFW halls. Veterans groups are hotbeds of anti-free speech, shall we say.
Simple Mind |
01.12.08 - 8:37 pm | #
drink
finale of Extras was hysterical
Damned at Random |
01.12.08 - 8:37 pm | #
Sallyh: Jeffraham, why so?
The Tetons lost to the Lightning Bolts, last week.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.12.08 - 8:37 pm | #
Diane C.,
How are you, darling?
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 8:37 pm | #
I don't care who wins or losses.
Monica_A:Tased & Confused |
01.12.08 - 8:37 pm | #
fellow I work with is a really good cook. he brought a flourless chocolate cake, whipped cream and raspberries for all of us the other day. I work at a really great company. G'night Auntie GWPDA, see you in the morning.
therealhellkitty |
01.12.08 - 8:38 pm | #
"All desserts eaten in the presence of friends a) have no calories and b) taste even better."
I was told that crumbs have no calories. Samples are also calorie free
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
01.12.08 - 8:38 pm | #
Damned at Random: drink again.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:38 pm | #
William Holden was so . . . glistening.
The nights there were moist.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:38 pm | #
I'm watching the Office UK on DVD and I had to turn on the subtitles
The first time we watched, almost the only thing we got was the Dalek Dong Joke.
I'm watching the Office UK on DVD and I had to turn on the subtitles
Gilly Gonzylon
Mr. V. needs them sometimes, too
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:38 pm | #
Damned at Random: drink.
I won't keep this up all game.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:39 pm | #
What's the line on this game?
joey
The night was sultry.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:39 pm | #
jeez Brady is like a Jedi or something
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.12.08 - 8:40 pm | #
drink and drink
Damned at Random |
01.12.08 - 8:40 pm | #
I suppose we should compare this to the civilian murder rate for that age demographic.
David Weisman |
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01.12.08 - 8:40 pm | #
Wrong quote.
The nights there were moist.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant
The night was sultry.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:41 pm | #
Bakatcha, Zap.
I'm doing fine. After listening to NTodd's pleas for a ham sandwich I broke down and made a toasted ham and cheese sandwich and ate it in his honor.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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01.12.08 - 8:41 pm | #
I know you can't really close down beer halls and VFW and American Legion posts, but I think they apply pressure to make businesses fly the flag and the MIA banner.
Simple Mind |
01.12.08 - 8:41 pm | #
It's Saturday night and I'm, as always, emotionally spent. Anyone else feel the same?
Monica_A:Tased & Confused |
01.12.08 - 8:41 pm | #
Diane, we took the Metrolink to Union Station and then headed over to the San Antonio Winery on the Dash. Lovely lunch, fun tour, delicious tasting, and wine to take home!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
01.12.08 - 8:42 pm | #
"It's Saturday night and I'm, as always, emotionally spent. Anyone else feel the same?"
Even though I'm a long time Packer fan, I think this year belongs to the Pats and they will trounce whoever is their opponent in the Super Bowl.
But I sure would love to be totally wrong in this prediction.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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01.12.08 - 8:44 pm | #
I know you can't really close down beer halls and VFW and American
Legion posts, but I think they apply pressure to make businesses fly
the flag and the MIA banner.
I'm doing fine. After listening to NTodd's pleas for a ham sandwich I broke down and made a toasted ham and cheese sandwich and ate it in his honor.
What better way to honor a soldier in the war on flu?
I think that we're gonna go out and play some NTN trivia at the bowling alley in West St. Paul soon. Yeah, it's suburban, but what are you gonna do?
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 8:44 pm | #
I did not know they filmed this in Sri Lanka.
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 8:44 pm | #
There are no wineries in Paramus.
There is a however, a guy living in an Ikea.
Culture of TrÜth |
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01.12.08 - 8:45 pm | #
NTodd has the flu? Poor thing.
Monica_A:Tased & Confused |
01.12.08 - 8:45 pm | #
too many old ladies play bingo at the VFW on Friday nights! imagine the commotion if they shut them down.
Never get between little old ladies and their bingo.
My favorite scene from Throw Momma from the Train is where momma conks Danny Devito upside the head with a frying pan.
ossie |
01.12.08 - 8:45 pm | #
It's Saturday night and I'm, as always, emotionally spent. Anyone else feel the same?
Monica_A:Tased & Confused
I just feel emotionally like shit.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:46 pm | #
Diane, we took the Metrolink to Union Station and then headed over to the San Antonio Winery on the Dash. Lovely lunch, fun tour, delicious tasting, and wine to take home!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Wow!
What a great afternoon that must have been.
Another nice treat is to get to Union Station and have lunch at Traxx. It's really a great little restaurant.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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01.12.08 - 8:46 pm | #
Sallyh: Jeffraham, I so sorry.
Oh, I'm used to it. Even if they had beat San Diego, no way they'd get by Indy or the Patties.
We can watch kittehs?
Sure! I posted about forty posts over at the place, today.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.12.08 - 8:46 pm | #
Meh. Don't worry about it. Thanks, though.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:48 pm | #
Ebay has the 1672-1683 Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London - 19 papers by Antony von Leeuwenhoek, 4 by Edmund Halley, 7 by Sir Isaac Newton,6 by Robert Boyle.
I would love to have this book. Trying to talk myself out of it - it is up to last month;s electric bill already
Damned at Random |
01.12.08 - 8:48 pm | #
It's Saturday night and I'm, as always, emotionally spent. Anyone else feel the same?
I spent the day at the landscape expo at the Metrodome, and had claustrophobia/panic attacks while shopping at Super Target. And my Dad's getting his lung removed on Tuesday, and it's scaring the shit out of me more than I'm letting on.
So, I'm spent, mentally and socially. Is that the same?
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 8:48 pm | #
A coffee table book about William Holden would be in bad taste.
Especially if you threw it down the stairs.
leibniz, monadΩ |
01.12.08 - 8:48 pm | #
Hellkitty, they will kill you.
Old age and treachery truly do overcome youth and skill.
I know I've said it before, but when I did, you seemed all happy
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Yes, I remember. That's very sweet of you -- thanks.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:49 pm | #
'sup, ya'll?
billy b |
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01.12.08 - 8:49 pm | #
Body Heat was a terrific flick. Throw Momma from the Train, not so much.
I can tell you which pairing, Devito/Crystal vs Hurt/Turner, I'd rather watch glistening.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:49 pm | #
I think they apply pressure to make businesses fly the flag and the MIA banner.
Simple Mind
I don't care if businesses fly the flag. (I think the giant flag over the dealership is lame, but whatever.)
They've developed this association between the flag and slavish submission to the government, and that's just fucking wrong.
I mean, Mr. V and I were checking out restaurants, and one had an American flag on the menu they put outside, and he said, "Well, I don't know what that's supposed to mean."
But we do know what it means. It means, "Sieg . . .".
OK, maybe that goes too far. But the indoctrination and the kind of idolatry of the flag that goes along with submission to authority is very disturbing.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:49 pm | #
JeffCO, I'm a het female, and I thought Kathleen Turner was hot in BH
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
01.12.08 - 8:50 pm | #
My son's history/civics class wants to watch a movie about immigration. I'm suggesting "The Namesake" and "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" just so that jackhole to see everything I have to deal with.
Monica_A:Tased & Confused |
01.12.08 - 8:50 pm | #
Dinner gong.
Later.
V for Virginia, free at last! |
01.12.08 - 8:51 pm | #
Another reason I hate Jacksonville: they have at least two restaurants with signs reading "Chinee Takee Outee."
One is visible from I-95, should you ever be unlucky enough to find yourself in Auggy's hometown.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:51 pm | #
William Holden on the lam!
That's odd - the view through binoculars was clearly monocular!
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:51 pm | #
"They've developed this association between the flag and slavish submission to the government, and that's just fucking wrong."
agreed. as time goes by i find less and less to be proud of about being a citizen of this mess.
Love it or leave it? gimme that choice and I'm gone
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
01.12.08 - 8:51 pm | #
My son's history/civics class wants to watch a movie about immigration. I'm suggesting "The Namesake" and "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" just so that jackhole to see everything I have to deal with.
If you can find it, I'd recommend "Salt of the Earth". The only movie banned by our government, IIRC.
Virginia, if we see a business posting the US flag or God Bless America or something pseudopatriotic, we take our dollars elsewhere.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
01.12.08 - 8:52 pm | #
Another reason I hate Jacksonville: they have at least two restaurants with signs reading "Chinee Takee Outee."
Ours have signs saying things like:
"We can alter the spicy."
"Free 'complimentary' wine with dinner."
"Choose from the rice: brown or white."
res ipsa loquitur |
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01.12.08 - 8:53 pm | #
Another reason I hate Jacksonville: they have at least two restaurants with signs reading "Chinee Takee Outee."
JeffCO, I'm a het female, and I thought Kathleen Turner was hot in BH
She was pretty naked in Crimes of Passion too. Of course, she was seducing Anthony Perkins, so that was a bit of a sticky wicket.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant |
01.12.08 - 8:54 pm | #
salt of the earth
billy b
someone once told me i was salt of the earth--do you think she meant it as a compliment?
ginger |
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01.12.08 - 8:54 pm | #
Yes, Zap, I'm sorry about your dad. Makes my little drama seem infinitesimal by comparison.
I also had a longtime friend call this morning to tell me she has a recurrence of cancer, after 15 years in remission. Plus my 75yo mom found out last week she's going to round #3 with the stuff.
Hell, a broken heart ain't much after all.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:54 pm | #
"My son's history/civics class wants to watch a movie about immigration."
Matewan might help. italian immigrants figure in that as well as some wonderful stuff on assimilation.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
01.12.08 - 8:55 pm | #
Matewan might help. italian immigrants figure in that as well as some wonderful stuff on assimilation.
Oh no! That bastard's going to see what I go through with his crazy yia yia.
Monica_A:Tased & Confused |
01.12.08 - 8:55 pm | #
Another reason I hate Jacksonville: they have at least two restaurants with signs reading "Chinee Takee Outee."
You've gotta be shitting me.
Nope. Next time I'm there I'll take a picture.
I have to go to Tallahassee again in a couple of weeks. I may go out of my way to Jax just to do that.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 8:56 pm | #
Nickelback, Pattiewhack, give Brady a bone...
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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01.12.08 - 8:56 pm | #
Is this Jacksonville, Florida or Jacksonville, North Carolina? We once heard JNC described by a marine lawyer as "dry cleaning, liquor, adult relaxation, dry cleaning, liquor, adult relaxation, dry cleaning, liquor, adult relaxation..."
kei & yuri |
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01.12.08 - 8:56 pm | #
someone once told me i was salt of the earth--do you think she meant it as a compliment?
If you consider being decent, dependable and unpretentious a compliment then, yes, it does.
billy b |
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01.12.08 - 8:56 pm | #
El Norte - about a sister and brother from Guatemala (?) - great film, tho maybe not the immigrants they were thinking of
Damned at Random |
01.12.08 - 8:56 pm | #
I just got the Huckabee call. The questions were so hilarious that I started laughing, and Mr. Computer said that if I didn't answer yes or no, the survey would be ended.
I kept laughing.
pie |
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01.12.08 - 8:57 pm | #
someone once told me i was salt of the earth--do you think she meant it as a compliment?
I used to live in a town called Salt Point. The story was that farmers brought their cows there to lick salt for a while so they drank more water, weighed more when they got sold, etc. I was telling this to a guy a few months ago. He said, "You ever hear about them feeding cows cement?"
leibniz, monadΩ |
01.12.08 - 8:57 pm | #
Once Upon A Time In America is good too.
HoneyBearKelly |
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01.12.08 - 8:57 pm | #
"We can alter the spicy."
"Free 'complimentary' wine with dinner."
"Choose from the rice: brown or white."
Also:
"Made with 100% vegetables goodness."
And my personal fave:
"For those on diet but hungry people."
watertiger |
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01.12.08 - 8:57 pm | #
This is the same game without the snow.
mike in pr |
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01.12.08 - 8:58 pm | #
Pats win going away from here. This thing didn't even last a quarter.
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 8:58 pm | #
"West Side Story". That'll learn him to talk back to me.
Monica_A:Tased & Confused |
01.12.08 - 8:59 pm | #
By the way, Bonus Critter Blogging is up, but make sure your babies are safe before visiting.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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01.12.08 - 8:59 pm | #
I hate the fuckin' cheating motherfucking Boston Patriots.
billy b |
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01.12.08 - 8:59 pm | #
If you consider being decent, dependable and unpretentious a compliment then, yes, it does.
billy b
well, yeah, that does sound good!
ginger |
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01.12.08 - 8:59 pm | #
So, I'm spent, mentally and socially. Is that the same?
One certainly can lead to the other.
Sending you hugs.
pie |
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01.12.08 - 9:00 pm | #
No, "Big Brother" is NOT good television.
Sinfonian, dog sitting |
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01.12.08 - 9:00 pm | #
Looks like the Pats worked on run defense during the bye week. Bodes ill for the winner of the Ind-SD game, both of which rely on strong running games.
Tralfaz |
01.12.08 - 9:01 pm | #
Two years ago his history class watched "Roots". His classmates couldn't have been more apologetic. I told them to stuff their apologies up their asses and get me my 40 acres- pronto!
Monica_A:Tased & Confused |
01.12.08 - 9:01 pm | #
Just remember that hurt is hurt. Can't minimize it.
I'm not gonna go all Michael Stipe on you or anything, but you, like the good person you are, have feelings.
Dad's smoked most of his life, and he's paying the price for it. Simple as that. I don't know how I should deal with it, and I'm really being coy w/ Zapette, my Mom, and my sibs. Probably not very healthy, but I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this form of familial mortality.
That's certainly petty compared to the plight of those abutted against US foreign policy and such, but it no less hurts. Nor should you deny that you hurt. You know yourself best...precede accordingly.
Zap Rowsdower |
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01.12.08 - 9:01 pm | #
A truly profound new thread above.
Richard |
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01.12.08 - 9:02 pm | #
"I told them to stuff their apologies up their asses and get me my 40 acres- pronto!"
I show that, too.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
01.12.08 - 9:02 pm | #
I hate the fuckin' cheating motherfucking Boston Patriots.
billy b
Yeah. If only they weren't so fuckin' good.
mike in pr |
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01.12.08 - 9:02 pm | #
Sinfonian, maybe you could pick a candidate, go down to their local headquarters and volunteer to work on the campaign.
Might meet some good people that way.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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01.12.08 - 9:02 pm | #
No, "Big Brother" is NOT good television.
Sinfonian, dog sitting | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 9:00 pm | # [kill][hide comment]
depends if Tony Danza is in it.
Gilly Gonzylon |
01.12.08 - 9:02 pm | #
jeez Brady is like a Jedi or something
The Hayden Christensen model Jedi.
billy b |
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01.12.08 - 9:04 pm | #
We once heard JNC described by a marine lawyer as "dry cleaning, liquor, adult relaxation, dry cleaning, liquor, adult relaxation, dry cleaning, liquor, adult relaxation..."
OTOH, the McDonald's right outside the main gate at Lejeune serves lattes.
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QuentinCompson |
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01.12.08 - 9:04 pm | #
Watching a DVD of "Mrs Parkington" (1944).
Greer Garson, Walter Pidgeon, Agnes Moorehead, Edward Arnold, Alice Cooper.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 9:04 pm | #
Some how it didn't surprise me, hearing of a shocking murder on last night's evening news, to hear that the accused killer had returned from a year in iraq last February . . .
Some how it didn't surprise me, hearing of a shocking murder on last night's evening news, to hear that the accused killer had returned from a year in iraq last February.
rea
This war's fucked up a lot of people.
And it will continue to do so.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.12.08 - 9:08 pm | #
Awesome running and blocking from Jacksonville. 14-14.
hoagie |
01.12.08 - 9:09 pm | #
This war's fucked up a lot of people.
The fucked up people don't care enough to stop it.
mike in pr |
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01.12.08 - 9:12 pm | #
Awesome running and blocking from Jacksonville. 14-14.
Yeah, but the Pats can score at will, the fuckers.
mike in pr |
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01.12.08 - 9:14 pm | #
I wonder about the veterans from 'the greatest generation'. How come I've never heard stories about homeless alcoholic PTSD WWII veterans?
miguel |
01.12.08 - 11:33 pm | #
I wonder about the veterans from 'the greatest generation'. How come I've never heard stories about homeless alcoholic PTSD WWII veterans?
miguel
Most of the WW II vets are dead.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 |
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01.13.08 - 2:44 am | #
"PTSD doesn't exist"-repubs
jr |
01.13.08 - 3:47 am | #
Everybody, c'mon now, you know the words:
How we gonna keep 'em down on the farm, after they've sacked Baghdad?
And we'll all feel "gay" when Johnnie comes marching home, to get a job in the burgeoning, fast-paced "security" industry. One year's experience, at least, in torture is the prerequisite.
Mooser |
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01.13.08 - 12:31 pm | #
Now, I am depressed.
trifecta |
Look, I love Eschaton. Been reading it for years. Just recentlyu gave up reading every damn comment, so I wouldn't miss a thing.
But lemme tell ya' pal, this place is a bringdown, mass, total maximum bringdown.
Eschaton is the surest known specific, the sovereign remedy, the panacea for excessive elation.
Yes sir, if you suffer from elation, and it's embarrasing symptons, take a medium dose of Eschaton and in a trice, you'll get a ramekin, hell, a whole firkin of relief.
Me, I just want a hogshead of halvah
Mooser |
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01.13.08 - 12:38 pm | #
Or a firkin of gherkins, I'm not fussy.
Mooser |
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01.13.08 - 12:40 pm | #
Did I mention mangel-wurzels and Gutta Percha?
Oh, for some Gutta Percha!
Besides that which is inserted into my molar root canals.
Mooser |
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