I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
alcyone: During the New Deal, certainly, for all its imperfections, government recognized its obligation to all its citizens (racism and sexism, alas, aside, and gays? Fuggedaboudit). And that's how the people saw the government. We wound up with a dictatorship neither of the right, nor the left, in response to economic and environmental catastrophe, followed by the worst war in the history of man.
Reagan's trope that government help was generally feared rather than welcomed put an end to the notion that government was there to help. And historically, the New Deal proved rather more of a success in meeting the challenges of its time than Reagan and the Bushes.
and furthermore...
...as I was saying...
...in this great nation...
Come on Atrios, the MSM can't be expected to know anything
And Prof, congrats on the home run!
Teh facts are for loosers.
(tips cap, waves to the screaming fans as he runs the bases)
Every day I get more depressed by this election. I seriously don't think I can make it all the way.
Of course the GOP has superdelegates too, though not quite as many.
Not quite as wacky, neither.
Well, the Democrats' system is a system that only Democrats could come up with.
to reiterate;this concerns the canadian 'system'...i have no idea how the yankee system works:
Art circles can be truly bizarre, where filthy rich donors rub elbows with starving artists, each needing the other, after a fashion. But of course all the cards are held by the rich.
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 9:01 am | #
Add the bureaucrats who run the art councils, the academics who teach at art schools and universities (who assist in creating the officially sanctioned 'scenes'), the 'senior' artists, etc... it's quite fascinating ----the opportunities for pandering are.............legion
juan ono | 04.26.08 - 9:13 am | #
Can we make the Nazi Jewish porn lover in Indiana a Repub superdelegate?
Every day I get more depressed by this country. I seriously don't think I can make it all the way.
Halfdan
fyt
Every day I get more depressed by this election. I seriously don't think I can make it all the way.
Halfdan
You'll make it. As the good prof says, keep your eye on the prize. All the rest is just crap made up by the rethugs and their enablers, the press. Keep remembering what we're aiming for.
As I understand it, the superdelegate system developed because no one thought there would be, ya know, a contest.
neocons vs. neocons-lite,
its a barnburner alright.
ProfWombat: I guess we're looking for a new New Deal, then?
And is that why they keep saying Obama and/or Clinton can't close the deal??
It's really cold. I miss California.
Muy interesante,
NYT Columnist Gail Collins, who normally poo-poos the democratic process when it inconveniences or disappoints her, today winds up and whacks McChipmunk Cheeks in a way that makes me think he might be vulnerable to losing women voters in huuuuge numbers.
Hmmmmm...
I seriously don't think I can make it all the way.
[Tries to make joke with sexual innuendo]
[Fails]
{Goes to make coffee]
that's because he is a wanna-be...if he can make democrats look bad, maybe they will let him into the executive bathrooms
As the good prof says, keep your eye on the prize.
I do try , I do.
Halfdan: once we've got a nominee, we can focus on why he's/she's good on own merits, and why McCain is a jerk, and why Bush was a catastrophe.
Think of the huge primary turnout, the money differences, the waves of Republican retirements. We can still screw it--we're Democrats, after all--but odds are, we won't, this year. And we must not fail.
Keep your eyes on the prize
Hold on
It never rains in southern California.
That's probably the most benign thing said on MSNBC about the Democratic Party, with the exception of the one hour that Olbermann is on each day.
Tweety is considered a liberal on MSNBC. Tucky Sucky isn't a conservative, but a libertarian.
End of story.
Breaking news: teaching abstract concepts helps children learn math: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/2...62e9&ei=5087%
0A
I've always thought I would be bored stiff with CA weather. Wouldn't want to be in Nova Scotia either.
It's really cold. I miss California.
Pussy.
Winter has the bad rep, but "spring" is when you earn those glorious 14 days of summer.
It's really cold. I miss California.
Moe Szyslak, cold
It's a good time to buy a house here, especially if you've got Canadian money. You could probably snapsomething up in the eastern Sierra by way of a vacation home for pretty cheap.
Halfdan: once we've got a nominee, we can focus on why he's/she's good on own merits, and why McCain is a jerk, and why Bush was a catastrophe.
What if it doesn't end with the convention?
Keep remembering what we're aiming for.
qlª | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 9:16 am | #
But that's what is most depressing to me. The GOP smears the dem candidate by saying he's way too liberal, when in fact he isn't nearly liberal enough. So then we all run to the right again to prove that we're not too liberal for Kansas.
Arrrgghh!
Take heart.
When I get depressed about politics in this country--and especially the MSM who delight in bashing the Dems, I think about what Walt Whitman wrote:
"This is what you shall do: Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to everyone that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown, or to any man or number of men-go freely with powerful uneducated persons, and with the young, and with the mothers or families-re-examine all you have been told in school or church or in any book, and dismiss whatever insults your own soul; and your very flesh shall be a great poem, and have the richest fluency, not only in its words, but in the silent lines of its lips and face, and between the lashes of your eyes, and in every motion and joint of your body."
alcyone: I think a lot of them are more afraid of Obama than of Clinton, because of the possibility that Obama might lead a larger movement.
Me, I've supported Clinton on domestic policy points, but would welcome the chance to vote for either of them over McCain, and anticipate being annoyed at either of them from the left from time to time over the course of their terms in office.
It's a good time to buy a house here, especially if you've got Canadian money. You could probably snapsomething up in the eastern Sierra by way of a vacation home for pretty cheap.
blerb
Mrs. Moe almost bought some property along the Trinity River a few years back. Me, I'd like to live in the high desert, up towards Eagle Lake. But it's all just talk: we'll never retire.
I've always thought I would be bored stiff with CA weather.
The beauty of California is that whatever weather you want, you can go to it in a couple of hours.
Shaw now you're making me misty. Thanks for that.
Anyone who doesn't despise Dumbya has a serious mental defect.
Pfui, Capehart is as bad as all the rest.
NPR's Skeeve Innskeep last week informed us that Obama "...finally admitted there was something funky about his language."
koff-koff,*hlurp*
The Supers were put in for just this scenario. Two strong contenders, no clear run away winner. Party "leaders" do what they think will give us , and some of us pray that they get it right
And is that why they keep saying Obama and/or Clinton can't close the deal??
Now this meme irritates the hell out of me.
We have John Coltrane and Sonny Rollins duking in out on sax, and one is too proud to throw in the towel.
They have Kenny G playing at a retirement home.
The fact that a race hasn't been settled among two outstanding candidates does not indicate bad candidates, it indicates a close race.
Shaw,
those are amazing words from Walt Whitman.
Walt Whitman probably fits into a category (greil marcus? marcus griel?)
called
music of the old weird america
The Supers were put in for just this scenario. Two strong contenders, no clear run away winner. Party "leaders" do what they think will give us , and some of us pray that they get it right
ny mark
er, No.
Morning all.
Capehart should know about whacked he is
Moe: it'll never end. Guaranteed. You can still find lefties who'll argue fine points about Khrushchev's address at the 22nd Communist Party Congress. Defeat of McCain is so critical, though, that, with any luck at all, people will have a sense of priorities.
The GOP smears the dem candidate by saying he's way too liberal, when in fact he isn't nearly liberal enough. So then we all run to the right again to prove that we're not too liberal for Kansas.
When you hear this remind them that just because you call a tail a leg, doesn't mean a dog has five legs.
Who needs the file-in-a-cake when you have a cellphone?
Wiki:
History
After the 1968 Democratic National Convention, the Democratic Party made changes in its delegate selection process, based on the work of the McGovern-Fraser Commission. The purpose of the changes was to make the composition of the convention less subject to control by party leaders and more responsive to the votes cast during the campaign for the nomination.
Moe: it'll never end. Guaranteed. You can still find lefties who'll argue fine points about Khrushchev's address at the 22nd Communist Party Congress. Defeat of McCain is so critical, though, that, with any luck at all, people will have a sense of priorities.
ProfWombat | 04.26.08 - 9:24 am | #
we can never forgive comrade khrushchev for failing to collectivize the horse-shoeing workers
Yup, the party is pretty evenly split and whoever wins will need the other side for the show. I will be proud and honored to pull the lever for either the first woman president or the first African American. At this point, my personal preference makes no difference at all.
What if it doesn't end with the convention?
Um...it has to, and will.
Moe: it'll never end. Guaranteed. You can still find lefties who'll argue fine points about Khrushchev's address at the 22nd Communist Party Congress. Defeat of McCain is so critical, though, that, with any luck at all, people will have a sense of priorities.
ProfWombat |
You misunderstand me.
When I say it won't end with the convention, I'm not talking about on-going lefty bullshit that we're all used to. I'm talking about *literally* it not ending at the convention.
I would not be at all surprised to see Clinton take this thing to court, over Michingan and Florida, and the courts will ultimately decide the Democratic nominee, round about October 31.
I figure it will end in June.
America's a more interesting country than the right gives it credit for. Whitman, a gay guy from New York, is all but our national poet. Perhaps the most moving protest song ever written, 'Strange Fruit', was written by a Brooklyn Jew and sung by a black woman. One prominent rightie list of 'dangerous books' mentions one by that most American of philosophers, John Dewey, who wouldn't recognize most folks' caricature of pragmatism as a renunciation of ideals before an implacable reality.
That's why we're all still here. We need to take back our country.
I really do know how to spell Michigan.
simels regrets...
McStain, why hasn't your far-too-young, hoity-toity wife released her tax returns?
Are you afraid to show the it is SHE, indeed, who wears the pants in the family?
Man, I love the morning crowd around here.
I appreciate the passion but not the venom. Just reading it some sessions from some commenters particularly, even scrolling by it, is taking a toll on me. I'll be glad of the day when we can unite behind one candidate.
Not to whine, but this place has been a lifeboat in the past. Lately, not so much.
Moe: well, agreed; Clinton going to court would be an unmitigated disaster.
nj: yeah, it's tough out there, sometimes even in here. Hang in there, babe; love ya.
Mrs. Moe almost bought some property along the Trinity River a few years back. Me, I'd like to live in the high desert, up towards Eagle Lake.
Either option would be fine for me. If I had my pick of places, I'd probably get a place somewhere in the Mono basin, although getting there in winter would be a royal pain in the ass.
I would not be at all surprised to see Clinton take this thing to court, over Michingan and Florida, and the courts will ultimately decide the Democratic nominee, round about October 31.
Clinton will not. I'll bet real money on it, donated to the candidate of your choice.
Backacha, Prof--and also to moe, ql, lime rickey, el gato, juan ono and even you, NTodd
el gato negro, (For you then)
McCain’s Compassion Tour
By GAIL COLLINS (edited by DWD)
John McCain — the Republican presidential nominee — has been visiting the working poor lately. Appalachia, New Orleans, Rust Belt factory towns. This is a good thing, and we applaud his efforts to show compassion and interest in people for whom his actual policies and experience are of no use whatsoever. Please remember that Senator McCain has never actually had a job that required him to work for a living other than being Cindy’s husband.
McCain’s special, “It’s Time for Action Tour” was in the impoverished Kentucky town of Inez on Wednesday, so he was unable to make it to Washington to vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. This is the bill that would restore workers’ ability to go to court in cases of pay discrimination. It would have made no difference. He stated boldly that he would have voted against equal pay for women anyway. He is fearless when it comes to delivering unpleasant news to people who are probably not going to vote for him anyway. When you are insulated by staff and 100 million dollars, ten houses, and a lifetime of preferential treatment: it is easy to be stupid.
This is a win-win for McCain.
After all, this is a man who told the folks in Youngstown, Ohio — where most of the working single mothers cannot make it above the poverty line — that the answer to their problems is larger tax deductions.. His reasons for voting no on the bill to rectify a great injustice? Because the bill “Opens us up for lawsuits, for all kinds of problems and difficulties.”
And. . . Really? Someone just step up and slap him until he wakes up. That is a good thing, John. Think about it, A bill making it possible for people who have been discriminated against to go to court for redress. Isn’t that what we have courts for?
Just reading it some sessions from some commenters particularly, even scrolling by it, is taking a toll on me.
what, you don't like being repeatedly beaten about the head and shoulders? Pffpfft.
candle vigils for Tibet.
and now, i must catch a train. I hope this net is big enough.
Clinton will not. I'll bet real money on it, donated to the candidate of your choice.
NTodd, TKPD |
I agree.
Lately, not so much.
noblejoanie
There are times when I have like I'm in mourning. But then it's time to turn the computer off and go read a book or make a quilt.
Waves dildo in noblejoanie's direction.
McCain’s vote could have made a difference: as presumptive leader of the party, his vote might have carried three more votes and the bill would have passed. But he cannot see that. His vision is lacking. His presidential priorities are sadly those of the Bush Administration: feed the rich and starve the poor.
Having delivered his objections to the Ledbetter bill this week, McCain went on to tell reporters that what women really need is “Education and training, particularly since more and more women are heads of their households, as much or more than anybody else. And it’s hard for them to leave their families when they don’t have somebody to take care of them.” And reporters wrote down every word and smiled as they did so having been blessed by their hero with his attention. Turning in their stories secure in the knowledge their editors would be pleased that there was nothing negative to report about McCain unless you actually thought about what he was saying, but that was a safe bet: look at the words of George Bush.
Some folk pretend they're more reasonable than they in fact are. NTodd does quite the opposite. He's really an entirely logical, rational, even generous fucknozzle.
Was McCain saying that it’s less important to give working women the right to sue for equal pay than to give them help taking care of their families? There have been many attempts to expand the Family and Medical Leave Act to protect more workers who need to stay home to take care of a sick kid or an ailing parent. “We’ve never gotten his support on any of that agenda,” said Debra Ness, the president of the National Partnership for Women and Families.
We also have yet to hear a McCain policy address on how working mothers are supposed to find quality child care. If it comes, I suspect the women trying to support their kids on $20,000 a year are going to learn they’re in line for some whopping big income-tax deductions - if they ever find a way to make ten times as much money.
'Strange Fruit', was written by a Brooklyn Jew
I did not know that. It's one of the very few tunes that gives me chills just from thinking about it.
You should keep an eye on your wife, McStain.
You're a withered old branch and she's still full of sap.
Clinton will not. I'll bet real money on it, donated to the candidate of your choice.
NTodd
I'll match it.
"daddy made me feel tingling inside like only the mall santa had before"-cable news on McCain
The Note: Jeremiah's Jeremiad
Wright's Reemergence Compounds Questions for Obama in Key Stretch
Pennsylvania was Sen. Barack Obama's chance to salt away his lead, answer the demographic questions about his candidacy -- and put the Rev. Jeremiah Wright in his rearview mirror.
It was a nice thought. Make that oh-for-3 -- and objects in that mirror are now uncomfortably close.
Pennsylvania's wake has left Obama arguing that he's still ahead (and doing so on the side of not counting votes in two key states), explaining why he can't close the deal (despite the fact that it's not clear Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton can even make a deal work) -- and coping with the sudden, very public reemergence of that pastor he wished would spend the next six months in East Paraguay.
Lurking just off-stage for all of this is Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., refueling for the fall but also well into a savvy act of political positioning (and more than happy to pick up any Democrat's pieces when the time is right).
thanks disney (ABC), we need to keep hearing the same fucking tired old shit...crickets about mcsame or hillary, but damn that uppity black man for daring!
Clinton will not. I'll bet real money on it, donated to the candidate of your choice.
NTodd, TKPD
Well, I'll drop a grand into the presidential campaign, once it comes, so we'll leave it at that. But, you sound pretty certain. What's your reasoning?
I'm not a fucknozzle. I'm a shitwhistle. Please make a note of it.
DWD: hard to gainsay education and training as necessary. But they're far from sufficient. I believe the phrase is 'good jobs at good wages'. Beats the hell out of me sometimes that people talking at the top of their pathetic lungs about 'family values' haven't figured out that good jobs at good wages are the ultimate family value.
You're a withered old branch and she's still full of sap.
Lime Rickey | 04.26.08 - 9:33 am | #
Barely. She gives me the creeps. i can't imagine a man being aroused by her, or her being aroused, for that matter.
Ew.
Was McCain saying that it’s less important to give working women the right to sue for equal pay than to give them help taking care of their families?
That would require that McCadaver was actually thinking.
His comment about 'too many lawsuits' or whatever was made to change the subject.
Well, I'm glad to hear that you all think Cindy McCain is young, 'cause she's 53, only a year younger than me.
Well, I'll drop a grand into the presidential campaign, once it comes, so we'll leave it at that. But, you sound pretty certain. What's your reasoning?
That people are freaking out hysterically about Hillary refusing to drop out and trying to pull out all the stops to win before the convention, thus extrapolating that she's evil and is trying to "burn down the party." That's paranoid bullshit, and once convention comes around she will follow what is decided there.
Gromit: 'Strange Fruit' was written by Abel Meeropol, a New York public school teacher (take that, DWD) and old lefty. A decade later, he adopted Julius and Ethel Rosenberg's children when they were executed.
That's paranoid bullshit, and once convention comes around she will follow what is decided there.
NTodd, TKPD
Time will tell. I hope you're right.
A decade later, he adopted Julius and Ethel Rosenberg's children when they were executed.
ProfWombat | 04.26.08 - 9:36 am | #
Wow. Just wow.
ouch!
"The other part of today's Washington Post article deals with the anger Clinton has generated among her own supporters, particularly donors. There are some choice quotes about Clinton's campaign from people who used to support her. As you read these statements below, keep in mind, they came from people who supported and donated to the Clinton campaign. Gabriel Guerra-Mondragón was also a major fundraiser for Clinton:
"I think she is destroying the Democratic Party," said New York lawyer Daniel Berger, who had backed Clinton with the maximum allowable donation of $2,300. "That there's no way for her to win this election except by destroying [Obama], I just don't like it. So in my own little way, I'm trying to send her a message."
And:
"We're just bleeding each other out," [Gabriel] Guerra-Mondragón said when asked why he had decided to join Obama's finance committee. "Looking at it as coldly as I can, I just don't see how Senator Clinton can overcome Senator Obama with delegates and popular votes. I want this fight to be over -- the quicker, the better."
And:
"However much one might have supported the Clintons, or one might support the usual suspects in the Democratic Party, I began to believe Obama represents a new approach. He gives off such a sense of relevance that he's sort of irresistible," [William] Louis-Dreyfus said.
He also expressed, as did other big givers who crossed to Obama, exasperation about the tone of the Clinton campaign and frustration with the candidate herself.
"At the end of the day, all she had to do was open her mouth for me not to believe her," Louis-Dreyfus said."
http://www.americablog.com/2008/...ama-at-
end.html
NTodd: glad you cleared that up, though only a low-born whoreson canker'd nematode would insist on it...
I would not be at all surprised to see Clinton take this thing to court, over Michingan and Florida, and the courts will ultimately decide the Democratic nominee, round about October 31.
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 9:27 am | #
I disagree. How would that serve Clinton? Even if she ended up winning that legal battle, her general election candidacy would be DOA.
In addition, she'd then have zero chance of getting the '12 nomination to try to unseat whoever McCain picks as his successor.
I just don't see it.
Is twatwaffle taken?
heehee
It's so much fun to be invited to be friends with someone on facebook when they use their real names and you no fucking idea who they are!
Gromit: 'Strange Fruit' was written by Abel Meeropol, a New York public school teacher (take that, DWD)
I have nothing against public school teachers who write 
BTW, my version of Gail Collins is very different. You might want to read the original in all of its blandness.
Clinton will abide by the superdelegates' decision. I agree with ql that this may happen before the convention. But I won't be surprised if she waits for Denver.
As Ignacio Cerrano said: No puedes pretender que los conservadores se comporten como seres humanos. Son otra especie completamente diferente.
(You can't expect the conservatives to act like human beings. They are a completely different species.)
A decade later, he adopted Julius and Ethel Rosenberg's children when they were executed.
Syntax is a bitch, isn't it?
(Sorry, more coffee professor. 
)
DWD: then there was THeodor Kaluza, a gymnasium (European HS) teacher, who invented, with Oskar Klein, a five-dimensional presentation of general relativity from which electromagnetic theory emerged...
I would not be at all surprised to see Clinton take this thing to court, over Michingan and Florida, and the courts will ultimately decide the Democratic nominee, round about October 31.
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 9:27 am | #
I just don't see it.
Hussein Begins at Home | 04.26.08 - 9:38 am | #
I don't see it, either. That would be political suicide for her, and would insure that McCain gets into the WH. If she pulled that, I wouldn't vote for her.
When you are building an amusement park in downtown Baghdad, those risks come with the territory.
Mr Werner, chairman of C3, a Los Angeles-based holding company for private equity firms, is pouring millions of dollars into developing the Baghdad Zoo and Entertainment Experience, a massive American-style amusement park that will feature a skateboard park, rides, a concert theatre and a museum. It is being designed by the firm that developed Disneyland. “The people need this kind of positive influence. It’s going to have a huge psychological impact,” Mr Werner said.
[snip]
Mr Werner, who has been sold a 50-year lease on the site by the Mayor of Baghdad for an undisclosed sum, says that the time is ripe for the amusement park. “I think people will embrace it. They’ll see it as an opportunity for their children regardless if they’re Shia or Sunni
[snip]
The project will cost $500 million (£250 million) and will be managed by Iraqis. Under the terms of the lease, Mr Werner will retain exclusive rights to housing and hotel developments, which he says will be both culturally sensitive and enormously profitable. “I wouldn’t be doing this if I wasn’t making money,” he said. “I also have this wonderful sense that we’re doing the right thing – we’re going to employ thousands of Iraqis. But mostly everything here is for profit.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle3802051.ece
Excuse me now, I have to go outside and scream.
blerb, Good morning. Yes, you can be the twatwaffle today.
A decade later, he adopted Julius and Ethel Rosenberg's children when they were executed.
Syntax is a bitch, isn't it?
Just imagine the savings on college tuition alone
Cindy McCain has her own website. Google "real doll".
'Strange Fruit', was written by a Brooklyn Jew
I did not know that. It's one of the very few tunes that gives me chills just from thinking about it.
Yeah, me too. We (my jazz band) used to play that tune a lot, but with just piano and voice, and the singer was a big black woman from Mississippi who grew up working the delta cotton fields practically from birth. She had a huge voice, and the effect the song had no the audience was electric.
It's a tough song even think about, and it was hard for me even to look the audience in the eye after playing it.
Excuse me now, I have to go outside and scream.
Shaw
Give the neighbors a break, Shaw. It's Saturday morning--they're trying to sleep in.
Yahoo hed:
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Nothing like feeding the speculative beast...
That people are freaking out hysterically about Hillary refusing to drop out and trying to pull out all the stops to win before the convention, thus extrapolating that she's evil and is trying to "burn down the party." That's paranoid bullshit, and once convention comes around she will follow what is decided there.
NTodd, TKPD
I just spent five minutes trying to word an answer to Moe's question. This is it.
Moe--I first read that as Nothing like feeding the speculative breast..
blerb, Good morning. Yes, you can be the twatwaffle today.
Gromit
imagine what a stranger would think of that statement.
NJ-the only way it goes to the convention is if she is ahead in the popular vote. I don't know if that can happen. We'll know in June.
I got the boldies.
NTodd: glad you cleared that up, though only a low-born whoreson canker'd nematode would insist on it...
Yes, but I have to insist because smegma-addled fucknards with a penchant for asspukery such as yourself can't seem to get it right.
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.
Speaking of food, Moe did you see the NYTimes article on food shipping and carbon?
NJ-the only way it goes to the convention is if she is ahead in the popular vote. I don't know if that can happen. We'll know in June.
qlª
More likely you're right, but I can see her not bowing out formally until the convention.
But I've discovered I rarely have enough cynicism.
Nothing like feeding the speculative beast...
Moe Szyslak
anyway to get the trained monkeys to spend is good for bizzness
Hillary won't take it to court. She has nothing whatsoever to gain from that.
Compared to McStain, Cindy is a baby barely walking.
It's so much fun to be invited to be friends with someone on facebook when they use their real names and you no fucking idea who they are! --ql
I know what you mean. Facebook gives me real names of people I know, and I'm sure I do, but what am I supposed to do? Send them a message with my real name informing them that I pretend to be a claymation dog?
But I've discovered I rarely have enough cynicism.
Moe
I think at that point the supers will declare and it will be over.
NTodd: glad you cleared that up, though only a low-born whoreson canker'd nematode would insist on it...
Yes, but I have to insist because smegma-addled fucknards with a penchant for asspukery such as yourself can't seem to get it right.
NTodd
Clarification: I'm a huge fan of crude profanity when it advances an argument, such as furthering the case that NTodd is a dickwad, well, I'll leave it to the professionals...
I try to be reasonable. Really I do. It's hard though when I look at the world and then I look at it through the looking-glass.
Question for those who support Obama now, or will support him if he wins the nomination:
What will it take to get his campaign to start challenging the media and punditry's 100% pro-McCain bias? Even the lowest-information voter should understand "rich folks run the media and love McCain because he think he'll help them stay that way by screwing you."
If Obama's staff don't get the message soon that they're running against the media first and McCain second, he might as well pack it in.
Thanks for that, NTodd.
There's so much bullshit rationalization of globalized trade.
he adopted Julius and Ethel Rosenberg's children when they were executed.
Wouldn't they have been like, charred and everything?
Questions should be asked about the wisdom of allowing the dependency of around one half of UK North Sea production to fall into the hands of a private equity investor.
http://europe.theoildrum.com/nod.../node/
3893#more
Buy in bulk? Have a whole LOT of stuff go bad at the same time!
We all started out as dickwads, you know.
What will it take to get his campaign to start challenging the media and punditry's 100% pro-McCain bias?
Bob Herbert shares your concern in a good column this morning:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/2.../
26herbert.html
Whether or not the Democratic party's system is "wacky"...it is evident from most MSM contributors AND many bloggers/posters that few have bothered to look into it and understand it. I'm totally sick and tired of the "she can't win enough delegates to win" crapola...HE CAN'T EITHER...few mention that of course...AND, this nonsense about tearing the party apart is more a result of the idiots who work in our media than anything the candidates are doing or saying (or their surrogates either)...it's ever been so but this campaign has set a new HIGH in manipulation by our press! What will it take for the sheeple to get fired up about that?
What will it take to get his campaign to start challenging the media and punditry's 100% pro-McCain bias?
Who says he hasn't? Come on now.
We all started out as dickwads, you know.
I don't believe in evolution.
There is no shortage of short grain rice.
I recommend this site
www.eatingliberally.com
Thanks, noblejoanie.
Food riots are, like, some of the worst kinds of riots.
We all started out as dickwads, you know.
blerb
Uhm, I don't think so.
I don't believe in evolution.
well, that makes you a shithead as well as a dickwad.
any more questions?
Anti-war activist group Code Pink is celebrating former President Jimmy Carter's recent trip to the Middle East where he visited with leaders of Hamas to discuss an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement.
"While George Bush's war mongering has made the U.S. hated all over the world, this week former president Jimmy Carter's courageous efforts in the Middle East could be crucial steps toward restoring peace to the region," Code Pink members said in an e-mail to supporters. "After all, Carter negotiated the only lasting peace in the Middle East -- the Egypt-Israel peace accord that has prevented an Arab-Israeli war ever since."
Code Pink says Carter's meeting with Hamas, which the US government considers a terrorist group although it won elections in Palestine in 2006, struck a blow for peaceful negotiations instead of saber-rattling. It called on members to send Carter a Pink Badge of Courage.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/
Co...ge_of_0425.html
My gift to all you good DFH's this glorious morning. Guess what? Even Rethugs don't want to be rethugs anymore. Indiana is going blue for the first time since 1964 - and it doesn't seem to matter which candidate the Dems end up nominating
http://www.boston.com/news/natio...ide_in_indiana/
If Obama's staff don't get the message soon that they're running against the media first and McCain second, he might as well pack it in.
Dr. Wu | 04.26.08 - 9:46 am | #
It's a bit tricky though, isn't it? The line between challenging the media's obvious (to sane observers, at least) bias towards McCain, and appearing to be whining about the refs, so to speak, is a fine one. Especially since the very media he wants to challenge will be reporting on his challenge.
Food riots are, like, some of the worst kinds of riots.
Lime Rickey
But eventually they quiet down when the losers die of starvation, right??
Heh. It's a WSJ opinion piece:
Reality: Food prices are already rising here much faster than the returns you are likely to get from keeping your money in a bank or money-market fund. And there are very good reasons to believe prices on the shelves are about to start rising a lot faster.
"Load up the pantry," says Manu Daftary, one of Wall Street's top investors and the manager of the Quaker Strategic Growth mutual fund. "I think prices are going higher. People are too complacent. They think it isn't going to happen here. But I don't know how the food companies can absorb higher costs." (Full disclosure: I am an investor in Quaker Strategic)
Uhm, I don't think so.
qlª
Well, there was a dickwad involved, anyway.
Bob Herbert did a great job reminding everybody about Preachergate (I'm surprised he didn't get in a comment about Obama's lack of a flag pin, too). Not a word about the media being in the tank for McCain.
But eventually they quiet down when the losers die of starvation, right??
alcyone
It's a winner-eats-all kinda thing.
Anti-war activist group Code Pink is celebrating former President Jimmy Carter's recent trip to the Middle East where he visited with leaders of Hamas to discuss an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement.
Sigh.
There is no shortage of short grain rice.
wouldn't they be eating that in asia if they had it?
"I think prices are going higher. People are too complacent. They think it isn't going to happen here. But I don't know how the food companies can absorb higher costs." (Full disclosure: I am an investor in Quaker Strategic)
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 9:51 am | #
LOL
I love the "full disclosure" bit they always add at the end of their BS.
If Obama's staff don't get the message soon that they're running against the media first and McCain second, he might as well pack it in.
Dr. Wu | 04.26.08 - 9:46 am | #
Nah, the voters are throwing the media out this year. I can feel it in the air
Especially since the very media he wants to challenge will be reporting on his challenge.
Hussein Begins at Home | 04.26.08 - 9:51 am | #
I'm dizzy.
I'm going to make a fortune out of my huge stockpile of mustard seed! And flour! I've got lots of flour! Soon, people will be flocking to my door to beg for a teaspoon of baking powder!
There's an NFL Draft today and what are we talking about? Politics.
People need to examine their priorities.
I did just get 50 punds of red fyfe, but I wasn't panicked about it or anything.
"Load up the pantry," says Manu Daftary, one of Wall Street's top investors and the manager of the Quaker Strategic Growth mutual fund.
Fuck the Quakers and their fucking oats besides.
Well, there was a dickwad involved, anyway.
blerb
I have considered buying various things in greater bulk, both because I'll soon have much more storage space and it's usually more economical. Also, it doesn't hurt to have a few weeks' non-perishable food stored up in case the big one happens.
But on the whole, food prices are so cheap here compared to other costs of living that doin't really ever worry about them.
People need to examine their priorities.
It's better tan listening to that gang of idiots at ESPN.
I don't believe in evolution
Speaking of which, our business school had Ben Stein on campus yesterday, speaking as part of a series that is supposed to "expose as many of our students as possible to top-rate thinkers in business and economics", sez the dean.
Well attended, too, though I expect and hope that the audience came to be entertained, rather than enlightened.
50 punds of red fife is about 50 punds more than I'll ever use.
I did just get 50 punds of red fyfe, but I wasn't panicked about it or anything.
Moe Szyslak, cold
Oh shit! We have the Lions. They are going to draft ANOTHER fucking wide receiver with no one to throw them the ball. Fuck that, let's talk about politics.
And wtf is a "top-rate thinker"?
If Obama's staff don't get the message soon that they're running against the media first and McCain second, he might as well pack it in.
A senior Obama adviser tells TPM Election Central that Obama will "take Fox on" in his Fox News appearance Sunday.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/arc...ives/
191321.php
Soon, people will be flocking to my door to beg for a teaspoon of baking powder!
GWPDA
I made muffins yesterday. They were just okay. They didn't seem to rise enough.
I think that Quarterbacks evolved from Nose Tackles.
It's a bit tricky though, isn't it? The line between challenging the media's obvious (to sane observers, at least) bias towards McCain, and appearing to be whining about the refs, so to speak, is a fine one. Especially since the very media he wants to challenge will be reporting on his challenge.
Hussein Begins at Home
When you know that the refs are going to throw the game for the home team, your two choices are (1) don't whine about the refs and lose; or (2) take your chances whining about the refs. In a fair fight, I'd say that despite the best racist efforts of the Cracker Caucus and the best classist efforts of the wealthy, Obama's got a good chance against a crazy old guy who promises four more years pursuing the policies of the worst President ever. But does anyone really believe that Obama can win against the unified front of every major media outlet _and_ McCain?
There's an NFL Draft today and what are we talking about? Politics.
People need to examine their priorities.
Gomez | 04.26.08 - 9:55 am | #
I love the NFL, but I find the weeks of endless pre-draft coverage to be grating.
That said, I really hope the Iggles can make a deal for a WR sometime today, or trade up to grab a nice offensive lineman. Hopefully a safety and running back on day one as well.
My mom's favorite WW2 hoarding story: the neighbors who bought a shitload of canned goods right after Pearl Harbor before rationing kicked in and filled up their basement with them, only to have a flood in their basement which washed all the labels off the cans.
[cue Three Stooges-type "wah-wah-wah-wah"]
A senior Obama adviser tells TPM Election Central that Obama will "take Fox on" in his Fox News appearance Sunday.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/arc...ives/ 191321.php
Halfdan
He better be careful.
Dr Wu--I agree, but the important point I thought was his advice that Obama get "fierce", show some fire in the belly about bread and butter issues.
Preachergate isn't going away. The Republicans probably have a series of ads already in the can. (As backup, they have a series showing Hillary to be a castrating bitch, too, I'm sure.)
Did you see Bill Moyers' interview with Rev Wright last night? Offered a very important perspective, although regrettably not going to be seen by many.
Quarterbacks evolved into Halfbacks. Halfbacks into Fullbacks. Fullbacks into Wide Receivers.
But on the whole, food prices are so cheap here compared to other costs of living that doin't really ever worry about them.
blerb, twatwaffle
Yeah and so are gasoline prices compared to Europe but family incomes are stagnated at around 45 K a year and they are not going anywhere and everything people NEED is rising precipitously.
Has that been accounted for in your, "food prices are so cheap here" theme?
I can feel it in the air
DFH in Dubrovnik
Isn't Dubrovnik downwind from Chernobyl?
And wtf is a "top-rate thinker"?
Stein is a "top-rate thinker" in that it costs you a whole lot more money to hear him speak than it's worth.
Porn dragon!!!!!!
"I made muffins yesterday. They were just okay. They didn't seem to rise enough."
I'll bet your baking powder was old. Would you like some of my nice, fresh baking powder?
My son is apparently going to hold a vigil in my lap until I relent and give up the computer. It looks like I'm beat.
Who you draft in the first round:
1. Offensive Tackles
2. Defensive Tackles
3. Quarterbacks
4. Cornerbacks
The rest are not worth picking in the first round.
My mom's favorite WW2 hoarding story: the neighbors who bought a shitload of canned goods right after Pearl Harbor before rationing kicked in and filled up their basement with them, only to have a flood in their basement which washed all the labels off the cans.
My Mom's story was how she and sisters saved their gas rations to drive to the Rose Bowl game.
nice offensive lineman.
It is always helpful when someone is offensive, that they're nice about it.
I can feel it in the air
DFH in Dubrovnik
Isn't Dubrovnik downwind from Chernobyl?
Gromit | 04.26.08 - 9:59 am | #
I was waiting for that
The rest are not worth picking in the first round.
I wondered why the Stillahs never had a decent running game.
I'll bet your baking powder was old. Would you like some of my nice, fresh baking powder?
GWPDA
That was my thought as well. But it's only about six months old and I am scrupulous about closing it tightly. Should it be refrigerated?
My son is apparently going to hold a vigil in my lap until I relent and give up the computer. It looks like I'm beat.
Step away from the computer.
Now.
There's an NFL Draft today and what are we talking about? Politics.
People need to examine their priorities.
Gomez | 04.26.08 - 9:55 am | #
Well, I'm a Giants fan ...
(blows on nails, polishes them on shirt)
Bush says rebates going out Monday will boost economy
WASHINGTON - President Bush said tax rebates will start going out Monday, earlier than previously announced, and should help Americans cope with rising gasoline and food prices, as well as aid a slumping economy.
nice offensive lineman.
It is always helpful when someone is offensive, that they're nice about it.
alcyone
They're nice as long as there's food around.
Has that been accounted for in your, "food prices are so cheap here" theme?
DWD
I'm speaking specifically of the SF Bay Area, where food prices are very low because of the proximity of the Central Valley and housing costs are off the charts. YMMV in other regions.
And yes, Red Fife is heritage wheat Moe, and I wish you well with it. Taking it down to teh village mill to be ground? Got a nice tight storage drum to keep it from molding?
Well, I'm a Giants fan ...
(blows on nails, polishes them on shirt)
Brooklyn Girl
/Sobs in despair, knowing the Packers will be in the cellar for the rest of her natural life.
I wondered why the Stillahs never had a decent running game.
billy b
Only one RB taken in the first round ever panned out: Franco Harris.
There was Tim Worley, Walter Abercrombie and Greg Hawthorne.
Stein is a "top-rate thinker" in that it costs you a whole lot more money to hear him speak than it's worth.
Ha! Actually, that dean is a very sharp-witted woman. I wonder if she was sneaking one in there?
A senior Obama adviser tells TPM Election Central that Obama will "take Fox on" in his Fox News appearance Sunday.
The very fact that he's appearing in a 24/7 GOP campaign ad makes me extremely nervous. He should know that Fox is going to run one of two headlines for the next month: (1) Crazy Paranoid Scary Nigger Whines About The Refs or (2) Weak Unpatriotic Sissy Liberal Still Hates America. If Obama's going to go on Fox the result had damn well better be Option #1. Shaking the hornet's nest isn't always a bad thing. Indignant denials by the media over their lack of bias are better than silence.
And yes, Red Fife is heritage wheat Moe, and I wish you well with it. Taking it down to teh village mill to be ground? Got a nice tight storage drum to keep it from molding?
GWPDA
It's milled locally, yes. And stored tightly. But we throw an extra U in there: mould. You've been away too long.
Ok Outta here. Have a great day, everybody. We move this week.
That was my thought as well. But it's only about six months old and I
am scrupulous about closing it tightly. Should it be refrigerated?
Can't hurt. Check what kind it is tho - some are double acting and keep their oomph longer than others. (Baking powder or baking soda - which?)
Sobs in despair, knowing the Packers will be in the cellar for the rest of her natural life.
As one who can remember when Green Bay was like the NFL's equivalent of Casey Stengel's Yankees, this still sounds, well, eerie.
The other day at the gym, there was some bullshit story on CNN about Obama and Abercrombie & Fitch wearing people. I was glad the sound was off.
WASHINGTON - President Bush said tax rebates will start going out Monday, earlier than previously announced, and should help Americans cope with rising gasoline and food prices, as well as aid a slumping economy.
That rebate wouldn't even buy you five minutes with one of Spitzer's gals.
When you know that the refs are going to throw the game for the home team, your two choices are (1) don't whine about the refs and lose; or (2) take your chances whining about the refs.
Dr. Wu | 04.26.08 - 9:57 am | #
Like I said, it's a fine line. You don't wanna be like Kerry and just ignore all the BS and hope it'll go away, but you also don't want to be too strong about it and have them paint you as a crazy man (a la poor Dr. Dean).
He definitely needs to call out their BS, but not in an angry or whining way. I think his response to the Wright thing was perfect- he used it to make a positive and inspiring speech about race relations.
I think if Kerry had done something similar- given a heartfelt, personal account his Vietnam experience, while simultaneously expressing our need to move forward and heal the wounds of that era, he'd be President today.
Dr Wu--I used to think the best practice was to boycott Fox. Now I'm thinking meet them on their home turf and serve it up to them. Don't back down.
nice offensive lineman.
It is always helpful when someone is offensive, that they're nice about it.
would you please be so kind as to fuck off and die while I hang this here cable from that telephone pole over yonder?
Sobs in despair, knowing the Packers will be in the cellar for the rest of her natural life.
There. There. Aaron Rodgers will pan out.
blerb, twatwaffle | 04.26.08 - 9:56 am | #
what a load of crap. Of course if you just bought a 750k house I guess food looks cheap to you.
Prices have skyrocketed in the bay area and transporation is just a small part of it. The oost of growing is increasing because of fuel costs as well
There. There. Aaron Rodgers will pan out.
Gomez
/shakes off comforting arm thrown around shoulder
The oost of growing is increasing because of fuel costs as well
Modern campaigning
[Looks at garden, scratches head.]
family incomes are stagnated at around 45 K a year and they are not going anywhere and everything people NEED is rising precipitously
Important addition : AND the "use your house as a big atm of free money" fun fest is over. That (to me) appears to have been the economic tipping point. The other facts (stagnant wages, rising costs) have been around for a veeerrrry long time.
The extent to which home equity loans were essentially playing the role of additional wages for families these past 8-10 years is pretty clear, now that some of dust is settling.
It's milled locally, yes. And stored tightly. But we throw an extra U in there: mould. You've been away too long.
Oh, aye. Remember to sieve it ounce you've got it back - with stoune ground wheat can coume unground stounes.
Yeah everyone cheered when Bill Clinton shook his finger in Chris Wallace's face. Of course that was before Obamarama told us Clinton is really a racist.
Obama taking on Fox..what a joke
That rebate wouldn't even buy you five minutes with one of Spitzer's gals.
I'd only need a minute's worth.
The extent to which home equity loans were essentially playing the role of additional wages for families these past 8-10 years is pretty clear, now that some of dust is settling.
Snugglebunny
Yes, although I'm hoping it was to buy the extras, not the essentials.
(Baking powder or baking soda - which?)
GWPDA
Baking powder. Reading the instructions, I probably should of added an extra teaspoon since I added nuts to the recipe. I believe that comes under the heading of RTFM.
I should of learned baking at a younger age. It's all greek to me, but fun to learn.
yeah facts, dumbass
the superdelagate SYSTEM the Dems have is fucked up. Exactly, and who would disagree? Its supposedly so the supers can overrule the idiotic will of the Democrat voters, who can't find their ass with both hands and will soon start panicking when it becomes apparent to even the dimmest of Obamabulbs that there is no way in hell he can ever hope to win- except the supers don't dare do it because the anarchists who call themselves the "progressive" wing of the party will probably burn half of Colorado if they do- I call that FUCKED up system, yes.
The Republicans need not worry about it because they don't have the stupid ass system the Dems have to pick a president.
Learn to fucking comprehend, moron. God, astrios is the stupidest motherfucking liberal on the net, and that's saying something.
Yeah everyone cheered when Bill Clinton shook his finger in Chris Wallace's face.
They did, as I recall.
with stoune ground wheat can coume unground stounes.
If it makes you cheeseheads feel better, Aaron Rogers is still five times better than whoever's going to be starting for the Bears next season.
You don't wanna be like Kerry and just ignore all the BS and hope it'll go away, but you also don't want to be too strong about it and have them paint you as a crazy man (a la poor Dr. Dean).
I suspect that if anyone call pull it off, it's BHO.
[Looks at garden, scratches head.]
Moe Szyslak, cold
should have said commercial growing
not you.
have you seen this guy's site
www.kitchengarden.org
they are trying to get better respect for the home gardener tax breaks etc.
The Republicans need not worry about it because they don't have the stupid ass system the Dems have to pick a president.
Learn to fucking comprehend, moron. God, astrios is the stupidest motherfucking liberal on the net, and that's saying something.
How enlightening!
afternoon fablous moonbats
weather is glorious today if a bit muggy, its a crazy 18°C with warm sunshine and bit of a breeze
i have the window slightly open and am wearing flip flops
this won't last though, its set to piss down tomorrow
Yeah everyone cheered when Bill Clinton shook his finger in Chris Wallace's face.
They sure did. And the media beast at least blinked a sleepy eye before going back into its wealth-enabled slumber.
Obama taking on Fox..what a joke
Bill Clinton was first
Speaking of jokes...
Yes it is tricky, and as I've said since last summer, it is just faintly possible Obama knows what he is doing.
*piss down with rain tomorrow
Learn to fucking comprehend, moron. God, astrios is the stupidest motherfucking liberal on the net, and that's saying something.
jones
Nope, not even close but you are in the running.
Dr Wu--I used to think the best practice was to boycott Fox. Now I'm thinking meet them on their home turf and serve it up to them. Don't back down.
noblejoanie | 04.26.08 - 10:06 am | #
There are actually some Fox viewers (like the really bright but somewhat naive admin who works in my office) that can be persuaded by a cogent argument and appealing personality.
Just because the station bites the big one doesn't mean that all of their viewers are brainless.
CoT is just a dim Obamabulb.
An unusual AP articleL
Democrats favored in electoral map
The electoral road to the White House favors Democrats this fall — either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton — and has Republican John McCain playing defense to thwart a presidential power shift.
Chris Wallace? The very definition of soft. Obama will have him in tears in minutes.
This is why the Catholic Church switched back to Latin. Since the pew-sitters don't understand what's going on, they can't be held responsible for what the priest says.
probably should have added an extra teaspoon since I added nuts to the recipe.
Generally speaking, close measuring of baking powder is a sucker bet - you can pretty much always nearly double the amount called for without tasting the aluminum. Of course too, if you've got other leavening in the mixture you have to take that into account too.
its set to piss down tomorrow
My, I am picking up both Canadian and British vernacular this morning! (takes notes) 
Yes it is tricky, and as I've said since last summer, it is just faintly possible Obama knows what he is doing.
Imagine that.
The fact that Obama's gotten to where he is due to his actions seems to have been forgotten.
Arf! yipeyipeyipeyipe!
Just because the station bites the big one doesn't mean that all of their viewers are brainless.
Brooklyn Girl,
Exactly. Also, Fox runs in alot of public spaces, unfortunately, like medical offices, although not the one I frequent after complaining loudly about it!
naturally Heidi and George are adoring the sunshine, as you can see here
Democrats favored in electoral map
Shit, I was JUST going to post that!
Heidi and George look catatonic...
Exactly. Also, Fox runs in alot of public spaces, unfortunately, like medical offices, although not the one I frequent after complaining loudly about it!
noblejoanie
I have noticed that as well. One I went to even had a severe warning NOT to change the channel. (Have not been back)
Yes it is tricky, and as I've said since last summer, it is just faintly possible Obama knows what he is doing.
Culture Of Truth
What he seemed to be doing with Gibson and Stephanopolous was taking it up the ass repeatedly. If an hour of being hammered over flag pins and Bittergate didn't provoke a response, I'm not sure what will. I remain optimistic, but also realistic--if Obama doesn't start playing offense with the media, I'm not sure why I should expect a different outcome than Gore or Kerry got.
Learn to fucking comprehend, moron. God, astrios is the stupidest motherfucking liberal on the net, and that's saying something.
jones | 04.26.08 - 10:09 am | #
And to think, it took all 3 of the troll's brain cells firing simultaneously to concoct this incomprehensible screed.
Watching evolution at work is a fascinating thing.
I think there'll be a teevee show in 1,000,000 years (you know it'll still be around) using this yutz as an example of the dark path humanity might have gone down were it not for the survival of the fittest.
Speaking of jokes...
billy b | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 10:10 am | #
you might be the dumbest fuck on the planet. you think you can win without Clinton's help. Both Gore and Kerry whined that Clinton didn't help them enough.
Bily B... probably Billy Bush Tucker Carlson's best friend
you stupid little shithead
East Valley.... 100F for Monday...
its just me and the felines this weekend, my parents are attending my cousin Anna's wedding in Italy
so house par-tay!
Didn't like this sentence, though:
Democrats exude confidence that Nov. 4 will break their way — even as they continue their nomination slugfest.
A primary fight is not a bad thing, so why the "even as..."?
should have said commercial growing
(Thanks for the link.)
It's only a matter of time, tho, that as prices go up people will rediscover the joys of gardening.
I get a lot stuff from commercial growers-- all my meat, my wheat, oils. But the really expensive stuff comes straight from the garden, for essentially nothing.
Bily B... probably Billy Bush Tucker Carlson's best friend
you stupid little shithead
whatever.
There are actually some Fox viewers (like the really bright but somewhat naive admin who works in my office) that can be persuaded by a cogent argument and appealing personality.
Just because the station bites the big one doesn't mean that all of their viewers are brainless.
I'm guessing, based on my sample, that appealing personality goes a lot farther than cogent argument. My experience has been that the capacity of Fox News viewers for paranoid speculation is truly astounding.
Exactly. Also, Fox runs in alot of public spaces, unfortunately, like medical offices, although not the one I frequent after complaining loudly about it!
noblejoanie | 04.26.08 - 10:13 am | #
Yeah, banks, too. And if Obama handles Wallace well (and I think he will) there will be video clips all over the place.
Stupidest fucking trolls on the internet. Amazing, really.
It's only a matter of time, tho, that as prices go up people will rediscover the joys of gardening.
Apropos of nothing, I was at the market yesterday and an old guy was buying a stogie to smoke whilst gardening.
A primary fight is not a bad thing, so why the "even as..."?
NTodd
It is a bad thing if we tear one another up over it. So let's not.
Liberals don't like to fight, at least that's the rap on us. We'd rather resolve things amicably, peacefully. So this rather darwinian primary struggle is hard on us.
The Democrats and soup kitchen USA
house par-tay!
We'll be right over, Moon.
Democrats exude confidence that Nov. 4 will break their way — even as they continue their nomination slugfest.
The latter doesn't have a hell of a lot to do with the former, even tho the MSM keep trying to make it so.
I'm guessing, based on my sample, that appealing personality goes a lot farther than cogent argument. My experience has been that the capacity of Fox News viewers for paranoid speculation is truly astounding.
t of a, now with more caption | Homepage | 04.26.08 - 10:16 am | #
Probably. And Obama wins that battle, hands down.
GWPDA, it's definitely getting warm. Time to go the Phx Art Museum and catch the impressionists in nice cool A/C before they go off...
It's only a matter of time, tho, that as prices go up people will rediscover the joys of gardening.
Already happening here - local nurseries report huge increases in vegetable sales, soil, all that. Local master gardener classes going full bore, house garden experts coming out of the woodwork (all of course a little late to the game - if ur garden isn't in and producing by right this minute, you might as well wait til September to start over.)
an old guy was buying a stogie to smoke whilst gardening.
I had a Swedish great uncle (married my Nova Scotian great aunt) who did that. Said it was to keep the bugs away.
one of my work colleagues as an allotment
I'm guessing, but I suspect most Fox viewers only know Dem candidates through that filter. Showing up, being a real human, engaging, personable, smart, undemonizes BO or HRC.
Liberals don't like to fight, at least that's the rap on us. We'd rather resolve things amicably, peacefully. So this rather darwinian primary struggle is hard on us.
noblejoanie | 04.26.08 - 10:17 am | #
Maybe it's time we showed we can fight if we have to.
There was the same rap on women. Of course, if the outcome is a bunch of teenage girls beating someone up just to get on YouTube, well, that's a very fucked up outcome.
I'm guessing, based on my sample, that appealing personality goes a lot farther than cogent argument. My experience has been that the capacity of Fox News viewers for paranoid speculation is truly astounding.
t of a, now with more caption
I think Obama is right to go on Fox News for they are casting him in one light. If he goes on there, people can draw their own conclusions and the fact is: he has an appealing and disarming personality. He does not appear threatening or radical. In fact, he appears perfectly reasonable, intelligent, and friendly.
It is a bad thing if we tear one another up over it. So let's not.
Even then, it's not a bad thing, really. Toughens us up in the end and as it turns out, it's part of the democratic process.
if ur garden isn't in and producing by right this minute, you might as well wait til September to start over.)
It snowed here yesterday.
So, Noblejoanie, what you drinking?
It's only a matter of time, tho, that as prices go up people will rediscover the joys of gardening.
We just bought a share in a local organic veggie coop. They do all the work, and we just cook & eat the fruits of their labors.
Did you see Bill Moyers' interview with Rev Wright last night?
Very nice interview. Did y'all notice how Bill made no mention/asked no question about the origin of AIDS or the evolution of crack cocaine?
Must be an professional courtesy among the ordained.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/
journa...ranscript1.html
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I gotta go dow stuff. See ya'all later.
Maybe it's time we showed we can fight if we have to.
Yes! That's part of why I don't really freak about Hillary's attempts to win this despite the odds. Just fucking fight for fuck's sake. I mean, fuck!
Just finished my coffee, DWD. Can you tell I'm overcaffeinated? About to hit the road up to zap's neck of the woods.
I need caffeine. The first reading of "organic veggie coop" came out obscene...
I think Obama is right to go on Fox News for they are casting him in one light.
Agreed. And McCain should come on one of our reality-based networks.
Oh, right. We don't have one.
George McGovern – the Democrat who lost the 1972 election to Richard Nixon – once argued: ‘To admit the existence of hunger in America is to confess that we have failed in meeting the most sensitive and painful of human needs. To admit the existence of widespread hunger is to cast doubt on the efficacy of our whole system.’
More than three decades later – at a time when well-publicised food riots are rocking Haiti, Bangladesh and Burkina Faso – it is still the case that huge numbers of people in the richest country in the world are not getting enough to eat.
http://www.davidosler.com/2008/
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I'm all for a fight, btw (I did litigation, duh), but best to turn our heaviest fire on the Republicans is all I'm saying.
Their situation is highlighted in the Financial Times [registration required] today, following reports that some chain stores are having to ration sales of the cheapest foodstuffs on account of demand from the poor:
The Congressional Budget Office forecast the number of Americans on food stamps would next year reach 28m, the highest number since the programme began more than 40 years ago.
James Weill, president of the Food Research and Action Center, said the actual number was likely to be much higher because the number of claimants had already reached 27.7m in January, an increase of more than 1.3m in the past year. The measure does not count all those in trouble as only about 65 per cent of those eligible for food stamps seek help.
The impact will be felt most acutely by the 35m Americans - 10.9 per cent of all households - who already struggle to put enough food on the table each year. About 11m of these are thought to have "very low food security", meaning someone in their home went hungry for lack of money to buy food, according to government data from 2006.
This state of affairs is the upshot of the neoliberalism practised by successive administrations – Republican and Democrat alike - since the Reagan era, which have seen the disparities between rich and poor reach their highest levels since 1929.
That was the era of Herbert Hoover, who famously campaigned on the slogan ‘a chicken in every pot’, before delivering a level of starvation thankfully never seen before or since.
http://www.davidosler.com/2008/
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Sheets
A propos of nothing, I was at the market yesterday and an old guy was buying a stogie to smoke whilst gardening.
Actually, tobacco smoke is used sometimes as an insecticide/repellant. Altho for some things it's too toxic.
I'm all for a fight, btw (I did litigation, duh), but best to turn our heaviest fire on the Republicans is all I'm saying.
Wouldn't it be grand to have a Democratic primary that shows two intelligent, articulate, prepared candidates passionately arguing over matters of substance?
Wouldn't it be grand to have a Democratic primary that shows two intelligent, articulate, prepared candidates passionately arguing over matters of substance?
atablarasa
Why yes, yes it would!
If an hour of being hammered over flag pins and Bittergate didn't provoke a response, I'm not sure what will. I remain optimistic, but also realistic--if Obama doesn't start playing offense with the media, I'm not sure why I should expect a different outcome than Gore or Kerry got.
Dr. Wu
First, he did respond. Second, you assume the response you would like to see would work, that playing offense will work.
You may very well be right, but there remains the vanishing possibility that Obama knows something about how to win an election.
CNN just played the Obama ad *again**
Fucking hilarious -- Bush no longer trusts military officers enough to give them military information ....
http://www.stripes.com/article.a...96&
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