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Threaditude!
So, do Atta and Molly coordinate putting up threads at the same time?
Dualing threads, like in the movie.
competing threads. who will win?
Plus, she's an adult named
Now now, I had a great-aunt named Katie!
*Shakes fist at Molly and runs from blog screaming and crying like Ellen DeGeneres*
dave is below talking to himself. I took pity.
Please spread your comments equally amongst the threads.
Mogwai, my posts kill fascists,
Honestly, I think I am at the point of either surrendering the stupidity or just finding a way to ignore it. I really cannot take much more of this stupid news and stupid democraps anymore.
The Dems are the worst though. They REFUSE to stand up and FIGHT and that is simply unforgivable from my perspective. If they won't fight, then all is lost. And it has become painfully obvious that not only will the leadership not fight for the people, they WILL fight against anyone who WILL.
Thanks, Molly, and lady on CSpan regretting that the Jena stuff caused the 'most beautiful tree she ever saw' to get cut down.
Now there's a Green for ya.
Let's talk about the other thread.
I actually watched that piece live.
Believe me, Harry Smith came off worse.
That guy waves his hands so much it looks like he's bring in the 7th fleet.
Sure, it's fun until someone puts an eye out!!!
Smith was all like, 'but everyone knew she was in teh CIA' and Couric is all like, "no that's a smear jazz hands."
At least Couric took Plame's side.
I think she has a gurl-crush on her.
So, do Atta and Molly coordinate putting up threads at the same time?
Actually, I bet we have the same rule of thumb--once threads get to 600 or so. That's when they time out the dialup folks.
Attaturk's thread may be more nutritional.
here's your puppy, atta.
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morning li'l blogkins
That guy waves his hands so much it looks like he's bring in the 7th fleet.
Sure, it's fun until someone puts an eye out!!!
And what bothered me was the Couric "did your friends die? Are you mad now? Huh? What were you working on? Was it this?"
I thought Plame handled herself gracefully, and if it alerts more people to the criminal behavior rampant in the WH, all the better. But still.
Attaturk's thread may be more nutritional.
But mine's tastier.
Katherine Hepburn shakes her fist at you from the grave.
here, atta. have a bacon sammich.
Dave, please continue your life story in the thread below, thanks.
I thought Plame handled herself gracefully, and if it alerts more people to the criminal behavior rampant in the WH, all the better. But still.
Molly Ivors, Vaginal-American
The right will spend time complaining about how Plame is wearing blue-jeans and a stylish thick belt.
Cliff May is grudge-masturbating this moment!
Anyway, HD-DVD AND Blu-Ray are messing with us -- if you can upconvert a standard DVD to HD, why get taken and choose sides?
Posting morning threads also seems to wake up Atrios.
I suppose I should head out to the farmers market, but the rain is horizontal, which presents some difficulties.
here, atta. have a bacon sammich.
watertiger
mmmmmmph
Molly, we're here, aren't we? Tastes great vs. less filling.
Posting morning threads also seems to wake up Atrios
It's the alarm on the computer.
You guys really missed out below...
"really mad about what happened to her":
I can't imagine even vapid Brian Williams speaking this way. This woman should have a daytime talk show, tops. What is she doing in the news?
Farmer's market.... later my fellow Atriots.
Thread Zepplin.
Molly, I got "The Annual Bacon Sale Catalog" from Burger's Smokehouse and thought of you guys.
UNless the regular form of the name is a diminutive (as mine is), adults should not retain their childhood nicknames.
If it helps, I have the same problem with Tipper Gore. I happen to share her given first and middle names, and they're just fine, thanks.
From below:
Atta, I have my eye on the extremely well reviewed Oppo 980H player, which ships with an HDMI cable, which to a nearly home-bound person like myself is important. Also HD-DVD has association
with Microsoft, and.......
plantsman
Well, the HDMI cable thingy is important. Those things cost about as much as a non-HD player. It's an outrage.
The bacon soap thing killed me.
Makes one ask... WHY?
Oh yeah I get that. But that is when all is said and done the biggest question of all, one I'm sure Plame wanted Couric to ask. Were people killed as a result of the leak?
But I agree that with they way she speaks and her tone of voice, she comes across as a star-struck cheeleader interviewing the really cool girl.
It's the alarm on the computer.
I think attaturk is really Gizmo, and when he gets up to comment he sits on Atrios's head.
OT: the free market controlling healthcare is like letting the sharks guard the mackerel: there will never be fair 'care' with profit-driven healthcare
amazing that this culture is so fucking dumbed-down and our government is so out of touch with it's people that we get this market-based bullshit 3rd world healthcare system where people mortgage their homes to pay for healthcare
i am not so enamored with what has become of our republic and the interpretation of our constitution: imperialistic free-market society of have's versus have nots
Makes one ask... WHY?
You can make soap out of any kind of fat, can't you?
I think attaturk is really Gizmo, and when he gets up to comment he sits on Atrios's head.
Molly Ivors
Yeah, there's an image.
Thanks.
UNless the regular form of the name is a diminutive (as mine is), adults should not retain their childhood nicknames.
Tell that to the Australians. Oy.
Bacon fat and lye make good soap, that's why.
But I agree that with they way she speaks and her tone of voice, she comes across as a star-struck cheeleader interviewing the really cool girl.
Completely gravitas-free!
I think attaturk is really Gizmo, and when he gets up to comment he sits on Atrios's head.
HEY NOW!
[hands attaturk another bacon sammich]
one I'm sure Plame wanted Couric to ask. Were people killed as a result of the leak?
Actually, that info is "classified", and Plame can't say.
I should liveblog this Sunday night.
Couric: yur really beautiful and hawt
Plame: thank u
Couric: will u go out on a date wif me
Plame: i'm married to joe wilson honey
Couric: kai a threesome then im cool with that
Were people killed as a result of the leak?
Not sure we'll ever know. This is from the interview:
Plame told Couric that her outing had shut down or endangered every operation she had ever worked on. She also indicated there had been negative repercussions to individuals with whom she had worked, though she was unable to be more specific.
Yeah, there's an image.
I could have said "sits on Atrios's face" and I chose not to.
So there.
You can make soap out of any kind of fat, can't you?
Indeed. I just think it's healthier to use vegetable fats. I know what goes into producing the hog, from which said bacon comes from.
Molly, I agree about the names for when one is supposed to have a serious job. Exceptions apply imho for entertainment figures (Sammy Davis Jr.) and one's own circle of friends/relatives.
Actually, that info is "classified", and Plame can't say.
dave™©
Her voice said 'I can't say' but her eyes said "hell yes."
You know Wiley and Gizmo are pissed not to be centerfolds any more.
Of course, Novakula or Libby could spill the beans about how many of Plame's operatives got dead due to her outing. They seem to have "get out of jail free" cards....
Molly, how are you feeling? Have you gotten any feedback from the doctor?
Tell that to the Australians.
The Irish do it too, which may be why I see it as completely infantilizing.
Anyone who uses the diminutive of Thers's name doesn't actually know him, for example.
Smith was all like, 'but everyone knew she was in teh CIA' and Couric is all like, "no that's a smear jazz hands."
Out of all the bullshit incompetent "reporting" that surrounded this story, this is the one bullshit lie that pissed me off the most. Everyone knew? Well, how about you, reporter boy? Did you know? No? Well then, everyone obviously did NOT know.
Jesus Christ, do you have to flunk an IQ test to become a member of the MSM?
Jesus Christ, do you have to flunk an IQ test to become a member of the MSM?
You'd think so anymore.
i am not so enamored with what has become of our republic and the interpretation of our constitution: imperialistic free-market society of have's versus have nots
mogwai,
Okay, here's the problem (the insurmountable problem, IMHO) in a nutshell. THEY control the media. Whenever anyone suggests a solution they will lie about their solution until it becomes poisoned. If they cannot lie about the solution, they will LIE about the person and persons supporting this until they become poisoned. That is it.
The vast majority of the people:
do not read,
do not find out information for themselves,
believe what is REPEATED in the media.
Accept the lies as truth.
And we have no defense. And when our own leaders undercut anyone daring to try to tell the truth. . . .
Y'know who I don't miss? Bill Frist, Rick Santorum, and George Allen. Not even a smidge.
Jesus Christ, do you have to flunk an IQ test to become a member of the MSM?
Jennifer | 10.20.07 - 8:54 am | #
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Yes.
I happen to share the same first name as a certain tubby Sunday morning TV host, which annoys me to no end.
Exceptions apply imho for entertainment figures (Sammy Davis Jr.) and one's own circle of friends/relatives.
Well, you're never going to get your grandma to call you by your adult name.
What's someone like Britney supposed to do? Become Britain?
Actually, one can not "flunk" an IQ test.
I happen to share the same first name as a certain tubby Sunday morning TV host, which annoys me to no end.
I know a college professor who uses the diminutive of your name in the classroom. Makes me want to smack him, though he's otherwise a nice fella.
I know people think of Harry Smith as Serious Journalist but I have come to the conclusion even Couric thinks he is a Class A Moron.
Watch him on teevee sometime. He just waves his hands around and spouts talking points.
What's someone like Britney supposed to do?
Suicide is painless, especially when you're brainless.
I know someone who has the same first name as our President.
Now, why parents would name a child "Stupid" I don't know.
The contrast between the Rethugs who exposed Valerie Plame to send an unmistakable message to the CIA and state department that you and your family may die if you cross them, and the Dimocrats who insist on backstabbing Stark for telling the truth too plainly in hopes of placating their implacable enemies is the story of our political collapse.
More visuals you probably don't need.
Okay, here's the problem (the insurmountable problem, IMHO) in a nutshell. THEY control the media. Whenever anyone suggests a solution they will lie about their solution until it becomes poisoned. If they cannot lie about the solution, they will LIE about the person and persons supporting this until they become poisoned. That is it.
It's not an insurmountable problem. It's an easily surmountable problem for anyone who isn't easily cowed into apologizing for speaking the truth. As I've been saying re: Rep. Stark: the rightwing and media howls for an apology present him with an excellent opportunity to further twist the knife. Every time they start demanding apologies for someone speaking the truth, the response should be to kick them again with more truth. Because it will get covered. If the focus of their rage at the moment uses it as a soapbox to spill some more truth, it will get out there.
And Pelosi and Reid be damned, they can whittle themselves down as low as they want to go by grovelling, but that shouldn't stop anyone else from twisting the knife at every opportunity.
Jesus, Katie! "I axed her that.."????
Time for a diction refresher course!
More visuals you probably don't need.
Now *that's* a wide stance!
After he leaves office, will they still arrange farto-ops in front of adoring crowds?
Rudy! Er, I mean, Rudolf!
The man named yesterday by the Giuliani campaign to a law enforcement outreach campaign post in Minnesota was forced to resign a government job in 2004 when proof surfaced that he'd admitted to repeatedly using the word "nigger" in the past, Election Central has learned.
Sheriff Richard Stanek was appointed to the post of chair of Minnesota Law Enforcement for Rudy. The campaign's press release promised that Stanek "will work with law enforcement personnel throughout the state to communicate Mayor Giuliani’s record of fighting crime and his commitment to first responders."
But as a rival campaign has pointed out to us, it turns out Stanek has admitted to having a history of racially charged remarks. He was forced to resign his post as Minnesota's public safety commissioner in 2004 after it came to light that he'd admitted in a deposition that he'd used racist slurs in the past, including repeated use of the word "nigger."
After he leaves office, will they still arrange farto-ops in front of adoring crowds?
I suspect after he leaves office he will rarely bother to put his pants on.
The "President's amusement" remark was gratuitous and stupid.
He was forced to resign his post as Minnesota's public safety commissioner in 2004 after it came to light that he'd admitted in a deposition that he'd used racist slurs in the past, including repeated use of the word "nigger."
He's reformed. He doesn't hate n****** anymore. He hates African-Americans.
If they cannot lie about the solution, they will LIE about the person and persons supporting this until they become poisoned. That is it.
why does this not occur in europe to the extent is does here? why are they more liberal with their governance? it must be their feudal history, etc?
i can speak about italy: one of the most fucked up governments, yet college and healthcare are free...whereas in teh US, corruption is all about fucking with the very people who elected you - that is what i cannot understand - are europeans more skeptical?
And Pelosi and Reid be damned, they can whittle themselves down as low as they want to go by grovelling, but that shouldn't stop anyone else from twisting the knife at every opportunity.
Jennifer
Without the support of the party, this will not happen.
The "President's amusement" remark was gratuitous and stupid.
plantsman, plant geek
Well, then, Stark should issue a clarification saying, hey, how was I supposed to know? He performed a skit about how funny it was that all the stuff he said we had to start a war for is wrong, and all you media types who are now so upset about what I said laughed right along with him. Silly me - I confused his "joke" and your reaction to it with "amusement".
attaturk, the "de generes' dog" post made me spit out my coffee.
bravo, sir.
Oh, and the holy hell Kate O'Burn was raising about 2 of the Jena 6 being at the BET awards was hilarious!
'mornin'. all
Robert Kuttner in the GLobe today on the Citigroup bailout:
So, consider: If you lose your job to outsourcing or your pension plan to an engineered company bankruptcy or your health coverage to a corporate takeover or your home to a subprime loan shark, hey - that's the free market working and the free market makes America great. Tough break.
But if you are Citigroup, and you just squandered billions of depositors' money on speculative bets that went bad, the whole economy will tank if you fail and the government will rush to your rescue.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe...g_on_a_bailout/
Well, yes. Socialism for the rich, free markets for the poor. They trash whole cities and regions this way; why not the whole country?
I'm a long-term optimistic soul. There are trillions of dollars of assets out there, looking for something to do. They could be used for something positive. But I don't hear Democrats, excepting Edwards on a good day, talking about this stuff nearly enough. And if we let greed, and only greed, triumph, even in our own party, it won't get any better on the spontaneous beneficience of the 'invisible hand'.
and Jennifer,
Show me ONE example where we have won something significant in the last six years and I will start to be optimistic again. Just one.
attaturk, the "de generes' dog" post made me spit out my coffee.
What a bunch of crybabies.
he'd used racist slurs in the past, including repeated use of the word "nigger."
Moe Szyslak
More important than the fact he used the word, it reflects the workings of his mind; how he views blacks and imagines himself superior to others that according to national beliefs are "created equal".
and Jennifer,
Show me ONE example where we have won something significant in the last six years and I will start to be optimistic again. Just one.
DWD - Retiring Soon
I can't. And it's because I can't show you one example of the Dems responding to the phony rightard rage of the day with a succinct "suck my balls".
Show me ONE example where we have won something significant in the last six years
They weren't able to destroy Social Security. Not a "win" I suppose, but at least it wasn't another loss.
Show me ONE example where we have won something significant in the last six years and I will start to be optimistic again. Just one.
DWD - Retiring Soon | Homepage | 10.20.07 - 9:05 am | #
I think that Nancy Pelosi is a pitiful clown, but replacing Tom Delay with Nancy Pelosi was a huge huge win.
how he views blacks and imagines himself superior to others that according to national beliefs are "created equal".
Ditto for how I feel when fundies feel morally entitled to treat me shabbily because I'm gay.
Sickening tree-limb cracking sound just now.
wotd sheets
Wanker sheets - Atrios has awakened.
Show me ONE example where we have won something significant in the last six years
that's just it - for teh dems, compromise is winning...look at SCHIP - a microcosm of the fucked up shit: most uh-mericans support it, yet prez vetoes....won't matter as dems won't use it as wedge and public will forget...i always say it:
electable dems are too wimpy
I think what really makes me mad is watching the Republicans as a minority controlling the agenda. Hell, the Democrats cannot do it with a majority. Their leadership is useless - worse than useless because they prevent people who MIGHT do something from taking charge. I hope Cindi Sheehan unseats Nancy: that would send the clearest message possible.
Mornin' good people!
I am sure that this has been said- but it might bear repetition: donations to Dodd and immediate polling support for him from all who value the constitution are very good vehicles to get the attention of the other pussy-footing candidates. (no intention of insult to our furry friends) Perhaps some sustained support for integrity would encourage some of them to show some of their own?
Look though, I'm serious about this. I ran into this shit all the time when I was a lobbyist. When you are right, you don't back down, because if you do, you're fucked forever.
I worked several sessions on getting a Dept of Agriculture for our state (yes, it's true, Arkansas was the ONLY STATE in the nation not to have an agriculture dept, thanks to the combined efforts of the Farm Bureau, Tyson foods and various agricultural vendors). Every time we would line up a bill sponsor, the Farm Bureau and Poultry Federation would send the 30 lobbyists they had between them down to shit on the guy's head. Meanwhile, they were engaged in the charming tactic of trying to float rumors about my sexual habits. I got fed up with the shit, enlisted a group of 40 farmers to all show up at the capitol on the same day, and more or less made it a comman performance for the reps that we knew to be friendly. Guess who else showed up at the meeting? The Poultry Fed's longtime super-powerful lobbyist. Whom I asked to leave.
He got up and shouted to everyone in the room about how "he would have helped us but now we could all go to hell." Uh-huh. Then he screamed obscenities at me out in the hallway which echoed all over the building. Real class act, right? Next morning, one of the reps there who regularly had breakfast with this guy brought it up, and I said, hey, you know what? I'm sure that's the FIRST TIME anyone has ever asked him to leave a meeting, and I'm sure it HURT HIS FEELINGS, but what do you think HE would have done if it was HIS meeting and I showed up uninvited to try to force MY agenda on everyone there?
The rep said, I'm sure you're right about that. And, word got around that I hadn't been afraid to tell the guy to leave, and also, that the guy had been witnessed by a lot of people shouting obscenities at a woman in the rotunda of the state capitol, which no one thought was a really great thing.
And we now have a Dept. of Agriculture.
Couric switched from entertainment to news. Some mistakes, one rectified: She greeted her viewers with "Hi, everyone," too casual and flippant for a news program. Now corrected.
She kept her casual name instead of her more formal, real one: Katherine.
It took her a while to do some reporting, and failed miserably with poorly researched, puff pieces. No respect to or from the viewers. She can't blame it all on the producers.
Thom Hartmann's Hypocrisy for Israel Part 1
Thom Hartmann cuts off a caller who was talking about the Israel Lobby book claiming "anytime someone calls to hype a book - I'm sorry - no thanks."
My mother was an adult named Kendy, and she had a PhD in anthropology, ran the region League of Women Voters, was a college professor, etc., etc., etc.
My daughter's name is Kendy, and I hope she keeps it all the way to the US Senate.
Names are names. Making fun of them is stupid.
FWIW- 60 Minutes has a huge audience and Couric is overly sympathetic to her guests. Plame will likely get some seriously unchallenged airtime. Expect the Right to draw the long knives.
Harry Smith's comments about everybody knowing she was in the CIA are nearly beyond belief. Don't these people even TRY to get their facts straight? Has research been banned from the traditional media? It takes about 1.25 seconds to find the facts of this story, just by typing a few words into Google or another search engine. What the fuck is wrong with these people? Why are they allowed to be called journalists?
Intentionally outing an undercover CIA agent working on stopping bad actors from getting nuclear weapons: Now *there's* an impeachable offense....
Surely many people have been fired, quite a few imprisoned, and high officials held accountable, right? Some might even have been executed for treason, cuz we are, as we all know, a Nation At War.
After all, the Republicans are the party of national security, and accountablity -- the Daddy party!
Better to be called "Katie" than "Katy", like the BBC dolly.
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