HULK SMASH!!!

Gravatargungulla?


Gravatar::peeks in:: Is it safe?


Gravatarturd?


GravatarI tried to save her.

Remember that.


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GravatarIOKIYAHPP?


GravatarAnyone want some photos of Brit's vajayjay?


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GravatarSorta like FISA for government spooks, eh?


GravatarThis is symptomatic of America's moral decline. I blame whichever candidate you support. And NTodd.


Gravatarfrom below:

fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur

cute kitty - cat, but "mishun impussable"?

Cute, but corny...

Does look like Tom Cruise, though..
Duane V | 03.15.08 - 12:55 am | #


U miss the point- the funny part is what it says about scientists and the internets.


Gravatardoctors arent employees prolly


GravatarKFED, has anyone not already seen it by now?


Gravatar47 Visitors Online

Wow. It's later than I thought.


GravatarGet a load of this shithead.


Gravatar4lg riple is from aliens, no?


GravatarThis is symptomatic of America's moral decline. I blame whichever candidate you support. And NTodd.

More seriously, Rolling Stone had a rather harrowing article about her last month.

It's like reading about a really slow train wreck. The whole celebrity culture is horrible.


GravatarOoops, looks like Obama found him some more Rezko turkee...

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March 14, 2008, 10:51 pm
Obama Discloses Rezko Contributions


Antoin Rezko, a former Obama fundraiser who is on trial facing extortion charges, helped raise up to $250,000 for the Illinois senator’s past political campaigns, nearly $90,000 more than the Obama campaign previously acknowledged.

Sen. Barack Obama made the disclosures in interviews with two Chicago newspapers on Friday. The campaign said that the previous figure — of up to $160,000 in contributions raised or contributed by Rezko — represented the total for just his 2004 successful bid for the U.S. Senate, and that Rezko had helped raise between $60,000 and $90,000 for his state senate contests and his unsuccessful congressional campaign in 2000.

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Gravatar4lg riple is from aliens, no?

Of course.

Watertiger named her.


GravatarIs there a newt cat? Too bad they went with the script that killed her off.


GravatarIn 2003, Obama's minister made the extremely racist statement that Jesus Christ was most likely a darkly complected man.

Pearls were clutched by Chuck D.


GravatarThe whole celebrity culture is horrible.

The thers bacon debacle is just sad.


GravatarPhila -- gag. But I'm seeing the same shit on Craigslist, though without the benefit of spellcheck.

Some of these people would have everyone believe that if Obama's elected, white people are going to be enslaved. It's beyond fucked up.


GravatarThe whole celebrity culture is horrible.
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur | Homepage | 03.15.08 - 12:58 am | # [kill]​


Couldn't agree more.

On that note, goodnight.

P.S. Kill Whitey!


GravatarI always heard that the reason they didn't use William Gibson's Aliens script was that it would cost a hojillion dollars to film. Wonder if they could do it cheaper now.


Gravataraliens3 doesnt exist


GravatarGet a load of this shithead.

What a douchebag.


GravatarRIP, Howard Metzenbaum (D-Ohio):

WASHINGTON - Former Sen. Howard Metzenbaum, 90, an Ohio Democrat who was a feisty self-made millionaire before he began a long career fighting big business in the Senate, died Wednesday.
Sen. Metzenbaum died at his home near Fort Lauderdale, Fla., said Joel Johnson, his former chief of staff. No cause was given.
During 18 years on Capitol Hill, until his retirement in 1995, Sen. Metzenbaum came to be known as "Senator No" and "Headline Howard" for his abilities to block legislation and get publicity for himself.
He was a cantankerous firebrand who didn't need a microphone to hold a full auditorium spellbound while dropping rhetorical bombs on big oil companies, the insurance industry, savings and loans, and the National Rifle Association, to name just a few favorite targets.
Unabashedly liberal, the former labor lawyer and union lobbyist considered himself a champion of workers and was a driving force behind the law requiring 60-day notice of plant closings.
When other liberals shied away from that label, Sen. Metzenbaum embraced it, winning reelection in 1988 from Ohio voters who chose Republicans for governor and president, and by wider margins than either George Voinovich or George H.W. Bush.
That victory produced his third, final and most productive term in the Senate. When it was over, in 1995, he started a new career as consumer advocate, heading the Consumer Federation of America.
Born June 4, 1917, Sen. Metzenbaum grew up a child of poverty and prejudice on Cleveland's east side.
He made his first big money when he and a partner got the idea for a well-lighted, 24-hour-staffed parking lot at Cleveland Hopkins Airport.
The enterprise expanded and eventually became APCOA, the world's largest parking lot company.
A political miscalculation led to his defeat by John Glenn in a ferocious 1974 Senate primary.
Sen. Metzenbaum had been contrasting his business background with Glenn's military and astronaut credentials, saying his opponent had "never worked for a living."
Glenn's reply came to be known as the "Gold Star Mothers" speech, referring to a group for mothers who had lost children in wars. Glenn told Sen. Metzenbaum to go to a veterans' hospital and "look those men with mangled bodies in the eyes and tell them they didn't hold a job. You go with me to any Gold Star mother and you look her in the eye and tell her that her son did not hold a job."
Sen. Metzenbaum won Ohio's other Senate seat in 1976, but he and Glenn didn't speak for years.
The two senators made peace when Glenn needed help with his presidential campaign in 1984. In 1988, Glenn returned the favor by piloting Sen. Metzenbaum throughout Ohio to announce the beginning of his reelection campaign.


Gravatardteed:

THE HORROR!! I even gave her a clue, "Rippppp-PLEEEEEEEEE!!"
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur

Shoulda named the cat "Jonesy"..


GravatarCouldn't agree more.

On that note, goodnight.

P.S. Kill Whitey!


Can I do it tomorrow?

I'm a little tired tonight.


GravatarSome of these people would have everyone believe that if Obama's elected, white people are going to be enslaved.

Turnabout's fair play, right?


GravatarDEETEED:

Air Force's new slogan is:


OVER ALL.

Or,

Translated to the German:

UBER ALLES.

No Kidding...


GravatarIn 2003, Obama's minister made the extremely racist statement that Jesus Christ was most likely a darkly complected man.



To quote Red Foxx, you can't walk around Jerusalem for thirty years, not wear a hat and stay white.


GravatarPhila-

There's a lot of racism left in this country. And it leaks out in the oddest places.


GravatarTCB will be forced to pick cotton while singing traditional white laments like Spandau Ballet's "True."

Now I can't get this out of my haid.

Curse you, Phila! Curse you!

As for the current topic:

Staff gets fired but doctors keep their jobs... for the same offense.

You know, it really sucks when the higher status people are punished less severely for the same offense. This is PRECISELY the opposite of how it should go.

Higher status usually means greater responsiblity, which implies more severe punishment for breaching that responsiblity.

So, logically, some doctors should LOSE THEIR LICENSES TO PRACTICE MEDICINE for this gross breach of professional ethics.

The problem is high status individuals in this society do not pay for their high status. It's become an entitlement, and one that is absolutely at odds with any pretense of meritocracy, where as your merit purchases you more status, it also raises the stakes if you breach trust.

Unfortunately, we've seen this pattern repeated in the military, where officers should have been boiled alive for Abu Ghraib offenses but were allowed to quietly retire while enlisted were dishonorably discharged.


GravatarTurnabout's fair play, right?

I may steal that. Thank you.


Gravatardteed:

THE HORROR!! I even gave her a clue, "Rippppp-PLEEEEEEEEE!!"
fourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur

Shoulda named the cat "Jonesy".


Does this look like a Jonesy to U?

http://img.photobucket.com/album...ey/ IMG_5906.jpg


GravatarMarcellina,

I hit it
Culture of Truth | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 1:36 pm | #


marcellina,

i'd hit it

fyt

ps. ok, so i'm about 9 hours behind the action. i'm all caught up tho now.

long day... feeling better now, tho...


GravatarSome of these people would have everyone believe that if Obama's elected, white people are going to be enslaved.



And we're all so free under Bush.


GravatarThe whole celebrity culture is horrible.

Beats 500 lynchings a years and no prosecutions while the sheriff watches and clips a souvenir.

Decadent celebrity culture is a good sign, unless you run Jesus Camp.


GravatarThe whole celebrity culture is horrible.

The thers bacon debacle is just sad.
leibniz♘☮

I am both disturbed and intrigued by the explosion of Regis Philbin cults.


GravatarOk, now I'm really outta here.


Gravatara hospital cant fire someone who isnt an employee


Gravatara hospital cant fire someone who isnt an employee

They can not allow them to practise there.


GravatarI had bacon for dinner. Probally the main reason I'm awake right now.

Sub-standard bacon.


GravatarWouldn't this be an AMA thing? (back on topic for a change)


Gravatarhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Ima..._deep_field.jpg

d watts, what are the really small points of light?


GravatarUnder the law in most southern states until 1964, even 1/32nd "black blood" made you black. Therefore, Jesus Christ would definitely be BLACK as COAL, BLACK as NIGHT.

Or even worse, a Jew.


GravatarSheets?


Gravatard watts, what are the really small points of light?

Part of Bush Sr's 1000 points of light?


GravatarOVER ALL.

Or,

Translated to the German:

UBER ALLES.

No Kidding...
Duane V

At the next Onion editorial meeting:

"OK, which of you fuckers is the Bush Administration mole? We charted that 'Uber Alles' story just last week!"


GravatarThey can not allow them to practise there.
MikeJ | 03.15.08 - 1:04 am | #



perhaps. depends on the contract.


Gravatarfourlegsgood, LUCKY centaur

Holy Shit, you're right. Actually looks like Sigourney Weaver.


Gravatard watts, what are the really small points of light?

Some are stars, some are galaxies. Hard to tell the apparent distance from a flat photograph.


Gravatar
perhaps. depends on the contract.


No hospital anywhere in the US has a contract with a doctor that doesn't allow them to get rid of somebody they don't like. If they do, please tell me where they are. They desperately need new representation, and I can get a cut of that.


Gravatarláminas


GravatarSimply having someone second guess a DOCTOR's actions is punishment enough.


GravatarDepends on if the staff had the proper level of security to access such records. Doctors can access most anyone's medical records, though they may need to justify it. Staff, depending on their job, do not have such access and may have been breaking other rules/laws to gain access to personal medical files.


GravatarA relative who's a nurse lost license permanently for
nipping narcotics from the vault, Doctors get briefly suspended if that.


Gravatarcaste system at work


GravatarThis may be obvious, but it's a lot easier to replace 13 administrative staff than six physicians.

God's on the phone - he's sorry that life isn't fair.


GravatarTom A hit the nail on the head. Sadly, at UCLA, hospital administrators have failed to implement safeguards that would have prevented staff who weren't directly in Britney's care to access her med records via computer. And their HIPAA training for Doctors and staff is a big joke.


GravatarStaff gets fired but doctors keep their jobs... for the same offense.

republican cultists give public praise to themselves and their ilk for illegal spying and openly violating the Constitution in spite of oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution.

America, the values society.
.


Gravatar"Staff gets fired but doctors keep their jobs... for the same offense."

don't doctors sign the hypocritic oath?
.


GravatarSo were they trying to sell the info or do 19 "grown ups" actually care about this horseshit?


GravatarDoctors can not be fired if they are merely on staff, and not employees. They are ONLY subject to "discipline," which can lead to loss of staff privileges. In other words, the result might be EXACTLY the same for doctors and employees, but the procedure is different.


GravatarHmmm.

Rezko raised a couple of hundred thousand for Barack.

Meanwhile, the health care industry has donated much, much more than that to Hillary, and no one (except Michael Moore) says shit.

I guess it's kind of like the double-standard with the doctors and staff that looked at Spears' medical records at UCLA.


GravatarAs a nurse, this comes as no fucking surprise.

The 'staff', be they nurses or whoever else, should be immediately fired for 'snooping' in this patient's records. You either do, or don't, need to know. Patient care comes above all other considerations.

But, that malfeasant doctors get spared is the norm. They are, you see, 'white collar' criminals...
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GravatarThe staff SNOOPED! The doctors only peeked. See the difference?


GravatarAren't doctors easier to replace than nurses these days? I would have thought it would have been the other way around.


Gravatarspitzer loses job while vitter keeps his senate seat...

What is the diff?

IOKIYAR or a Dr?

Frist?


GravatarSorry, I call bullshit on the Faux Outrage.

First, different contracts, different terms of employment.

Second, which is in shorter supply -- staff or physicians?

As a Little Person I'm quite content to acknowledge that, in general, it sucks to be a Little Person.


GravatarThe doctors aren't "employees" in the same way as the other staff--
they are independent contractors who are 'priveleged' to practice inthe hospital.
The hospital could yank their priveleges but that would take time and several go-arounds with the priveleging committees and ethics committees and yada yada yada....


Gravatarthemoose (just above) said it all. The docs don't work for the hospital, so the hospital can't fire them. After we see just what the "discipline" is, we might or might not have grounds for complaining about the injustice of it, but not yet.


GravatarSupply and demand...Doctors are too hard to replace.


GravatarI think the key part of the story is this -
"Right from the minute she came in, audits were continually being done," she said. "We watch this all the time. We have people dedicated to looking at records to monitor access."

When employees look at a patient's records electronically, they leave an electronic trail. "We advise all of our workforce that their password is their PIN for lack of a better analogy, and it is their signature," Klove said. When it is used, the systems track which screens they view and for how long.


With all these new electronic medical databases, it's nice to know they are actually auditing access.


GravatarSome of the people getting off with discipline only are non-physicians.

The Los Angeles Times reported on its Web site Friday that more than 13 employees, none of whom are doctors, would be fired. Twelve others, *including* several doctors, will be disciplined otherwise for looking at her computerized records, it reported.
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A similar thing happened at the hospital I work in a while back, and they had no problems firing docs. The reason some are getting off with disciplinary action probably has to do with the specific offenses.


GravatarOf course there is a doctor supply situation.

Doctors are protected against competition from immigrants by quotas.

Too bad factory workers aren't protected against overseas workers.


GravatarI used to work on hospital IT.
Whenever we had a 'celebrity' patient, HR would have us run audits on their electronic medical records to make sure only work-related staff and doctors were opening them. A few people got dinged but I don't think anyone was fired, except in one case where an employee modified for personal reasons the record of a patient they knew.

With HIPAA laws, hospitals are required to maintain safeguards to keep records confidential.

Depending on the hospital's competitive situation, they need to attract doctors to bring in patients. I never saw the hospital choose to remove a doctor from having 'privileges' to practice there.


Gravatar"Britney Spears" is a female Pop Star? Gosh, that sure is something!


GravatarAs others have pointed out, most hospitals do not employ doctors. Instead, doctors form contracts to send their patients to a particular hospital, which then provides (and bills for) nursing care, pharmacy, etc. The hospital doesn't actually pay the doctor - he or she issues a separate bill for "professional services" to the patient.

In extreme situations, hospitals could end the contract (i.e. revoke "admitting privileges"), but that's not comparable to firing an employee - it's more like terminating a client. The doctor would simply make arrangements to admit patients to a different hospital.


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