I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Another question is who made money?
The more sucks the better 
I think they misunderstansd the point of "investment"--isn't there supposed to be some risk?
And I was first, but haloscan froze on me.
(grumble, grumble, grumble)
I believe, Molly, they were imagining investment was the equivalent of a passbook savings account at the S&L....
"Florida and Montana are part of a 5th column"-Jim Cramer
Deadthreaded...
It's 13 degrees (-11C) in Vermont, with a wind chill of -5. But we're going to the Cayman Islands tomorrow. Woo hoo!
We're only packing toothbrushes, sunscreen, and snorkel gear, so there's plenty of room in the suitcase for cash, if anyone wants us to set up an offshore account while we're there.
Just meet us at the Burlington airport at 5AM, ok? And will you be wanting a receipt?
This is the sort of news that makes me glad I'm broke.
"This works great for me because after all this cash tossin' I'M GOING TO DISNEY WORLD!"
- Helicopter Ben
Gromit enjoy your vacay.
Chriss Street, treasurer of Orange County, California, the fifth-most-populous county in the U.S., says no public fund should invest in equity tranches. He says fund managers are ignoring their fiduciary responsibilities by placing even 1 percent of pension assets into the riskiest portion of a CDO.
Gee - something about Orange County investing in something quite risky, a few years back.... Something that put the "penal" back into penalty ....
Americans appear to be slow learners compared to the rest of the world.
TJ-- With Scottie, you could tell he was embarrassed by the lies. With Snow, not so much. Perino just seems totally unaware of any moral issues associated with her lies. I suspect audioanimatronics.
we're going to the Cayman Islands tomorrow. Woo hoo!
I love the Caymans. Eat at Bed!
What do they mean they won't accept it? Are they going to hold their breath and stomp their feet until real estate recovers? I hope the only people that lose money on these scams are dumb asses that voted for W and Jeb.
Another blogwhore on Kit Seelye and Hillary Clinton.
Lotta pension funds got burned by Ernon and its Raptor funds, as well.
OT (but slightly related to the title of bye bye money)
if you need a reason to hate leno, other than for the most obvious reason that he sucks, check this out.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071...tv_nm/
leno_dc_2
Eat at Bed!
Hecate
Is that a restaurant or a suggested recreational activity?
Hecate, weren't a lot of pension funds robbed under the first Clinton administration, too? I read an article about it in Time a while ago, but I forget the details.
Starting to rain again.
.
If Rudy can be given millions to protect his stable of pampered mistresses, why can't Hillary be given a few extra pennies to help protect her campaign workers from wingnut attacks?
Americans appear to be slow learners compared to the rest of the world.
we only appear smart by importing talent. many of our genius engineers and doctors are either h1-b or immigrants
Auntie GWPDA, we're having the rain along with you.
Rudy's mistresses should get money to get their eyes examined.
For Molly.
The Good The Bad & The Queen.
Herculean.
Rain is good - snowpack up to Flagstaff.
bdub,
Conan O'Brien is covering his staffers himself.
good grief, it's only rain people.
only the wicked witch needs to be afraid of melting.
Is that a restaurant
Yes, v. good food and the wait people all wear pajamas.
Molly,
You may be right; I have a vague memory. I do remember the pensions that were invested in the Enron raptors, for sure.
Rudy's mistresses should get money to get their eyes examined.
Does the NYPD have optometrists on staff?
Hecate-- Thanks, we'll check it out.
Well, at least the blackshirts are showing up.
Sallyh-- Rain in socal? Does that mean the fires are out?
Does the NYPD have optometrists on staff?
Molly Ivors
They're paid to look the other way.
The Continuing Adventures of Rudy & Judi -- New installment now available!
only the wicked witch needs to be afraid of melting.
"I HEARD THAT!"
Well, at least the blackshirts are showing up.
watertiger
Hey! 
Rain in the West and Southwest, ql, it's something we take quite seriously.
As for long periods of heavy rain in Malibu? Right now? Not so good.
Hecate, CalPERS pension fund lost 25% of its value in the Enron meltdown.
And we have a governor who wants to get his hands on our pensions.
Screw the teachers. Always. Wa stste takes excess profit from our teachers' pension investments, yet makes the teachers take the losses. The pension account is constantly raided by adjusting the actuarial payout multiplication factor. Lower that number, which few understand or notice, and then dub a section of the pension pool as "excess windfall profit" on a "designated benefit" and then move this money to the general fund to balance the budget. Then get on the news and claim the money belongs to the state not the teachers, because their benefit is "defined and guaranteed by law".
Remember this money is a paycheck deduction, like a 401K, not a true defined benefit.
Imagine if the state grabbed any ofyour 401K profits that exceed a 5% gain and then made you take all of the loss.
HBK, Interesting, and what a cool video!
I'm glad you like your new toy.
Gromit, not sure about the fires, but it rained very steadily yesterday. First rain we'd seen in a very long, long time.
New installment now available!
If the Democrats were a real political party, they would now start airing ads about Social Security privatization: Republicans wanted to turn your money over to these same people!
Troutski, yes, same in CA. It's a mandatory contribution. I also have funds in TIAA-Cref.
Molly - I saw that about Conan. What a badass.
The Continuing Adventures of Rudy & Judi -- New installment now available!
It's my fave!
Res-- Damn, that's good stuff. You need to find some readers and make it into a radio serial.
Oh shit, I have to get that Botox addict link in there!
Res,
I'd add a few more laughy-faces than Watertiger, but my carpal tunnel is actin' up.
HBK, you diggin' on the mac?
sweet, no?
You need to find some readers and make it into a radio serial.
Podcasting!
Let's see... watertiger in Ruta-baga's wig with Rosie's tiara.... do we think we could get the Kenosha Kid o play Rudy?
watertiger I lurves it.
My presssssioussss.
It was easy to transfer all my stuff over from the old powerbook too.
*sniff*, all i want for christmas is a new macbook...they do have some refurbs on apple.com for $500 less than list
These pensions are under immense pressure to get high returns to meet the pensions' commitments. High returns have high risk. The market forgot this over the past few years because everything was doing well.
It's another example of how people in this country--whether they buy homes they cannot afford or have pension benefits that don't fit with the underlying assets or build homes in disaster zones but then lose their houses--want their lifestyles to be protected by the government when things go wrong but left alone when things go well.
And now we have Bush wanted to stop the resets on the mortgages FOR THE MOST IRRESPONSIBLE OF THE BORROWERS. If you are a good credit, you get screwed. If you are a bad credit, we'll bail you out.
Let's see... watertiger in Ruta-baga's wig with Rosie's tiara.... do we think we could get the Kenosha Kid o play Rudy?
was at a small gathering last night of bloggers who hang out at DU --
they didn't realize that I was Carmela Hayersprai and that Thers was
Ann Altmouse.
It's another example of how people in this country--whether they buy homes they cannot afford or have pension benefits that don't fit with the underlying assets or build homes in disaster zones but then lose their houses--want their lifestyles to be protected by the government when things go wrong but left alone when things go well.
commies who act like fascists = uh-mericans
they were promised an annual return of around 90%!
Nothing fishy about that.
It was easy to transfer all my stuff over from the old powerbook too.
I have to pick up Leopard. And get more memory for my iMac.
wt,
Do you have a power suit?
I can make a necklace of ovaries.....
Do you have a power suit?
I have a power jacket somewhere in this apartment.
Its the same everywhere--and it doesn't matter if you are democrat or republican, rich or poor. I want great healthcare but I don't want universal healthcare and i don't want to have to pay much for it; I want to retire at 60 but I don't want higher taxes on social security even though we live longer; I want my farm subsidies or my oil subsidies even though commodity prices are through the roof because I need them to produce; I want more money for schools but, as a teacher, I don't want to be responsible for my performance; I want to build multimillion dollar homes on the coasts but expect government subsidized insurance.
We have become a country of selfish, spoiled children who don't understand responsibility.
We could come down early next weekend...
Molly I'll burn you a copy of the album that song came from if you like.
It's Damon Albarn's concept album about living in London produced by Danger Mouse and it's quite good.
Speak for yourself, Apu.
And please do not offer my god a peanut.
Too bad for those greedy teachers. Corporations (banks, investment firms, etc) and gov't always work together to part people from money. After all, corporations and gov't are merely quid-pro-quo whorehouses sold to the highest bidder. When the gov't needs illegal wire-taps, Verizon and Sprint allow them secret rooms to listen in on calls. When Haliburton (and KBR) need more revenue, the gov't hands out no-bid contracts. When the gov't dislikes literature, Amazon and Wikipedia ban America Deceived (book). We The People had our gov't sold out from beneath us.
Well this is certainly NOT going to win Leno any buddies in the bulk of the TV world.
O'Brien & Letterman paying their staffs, Leno apparently hasn't done that yet and now they're getting laid off.
We could come down early next weekend...
I have to find a really ugly pearl necklace.
Wait, I'll come in again.
Hecate, CalPERS pension fund lost 25% of its value in the Enron meltdown.
And we have a governor who wants to get his hands on our pensions.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 12.01.07 - 10:13 am
Does he need the money for plastic surgery?
Gee, even Reuters is calling them suckers.
Or maybe Atrios missed a blockquote tag.
We're gonna party like it's on sale for $19.99!!!
I'm sorry, but this story is just making me lafffff...
We have become a country of selfish, spoiled children who don't understand responsibility.
you're too nice...
i think we've embraced the 7 deadly sins:
lust
gluttony
greed
sloth
wrath
envy
pride
New installment now available!
Very funny.
What's even funnier is you and wt linking to the same pix.
You know gals, perky & cute just doesn't cut it over 40.
I think GREED makes people do some incredibly stupid things. Even organizations. It sounds like a gigantic con game to me. "Give us your money and we promise we will double it." Only something funny always happens on the way to that bank.
But what do I know. I still have my money. It hasn't doubled, but it isn't gone either.
I have to find a really ugly pearl necklace.
I'll bring one.
I don't think anyone should invest in a "tranch."
Indentured servitude will be compelled under the Bush Administraton's proposed "Job Retention Act" of 2008.
Joe Lieberman will be a co-sponsor. Most people named "Moses" will miss the irony.
You know gals, perky & cute just doesn't cut it over 40.
Hey!
I have to find a really ugly pearl necklace.
MUST...RESIST...JOKE...
I have to find a really ugly pearl necklace.
I'll help.
I took my goddamn gravatar down haloscan.
(grumble, grumble, grumble)
Tigger-- Suggest holding off on Leopard for a couple of months. I love it on my laptop (intel), but just had a OS-related nightmare on my G5 at work, and am going to do a clean OS install when I get back from the islands. BTW, these guys have great prices and service on RAM, disks and such (www.macsales.com) and have videos that walk you through anything you need to do. Highly recommended.
It comes down to whether we want a country where people are responsible for the risk they take or a country where people are protected from themselves and from taking too much risk. Or the third option--which is the worst option--where people can take as much risk as they want but never pay the price for it.
I'm not anti-profit; not anti-business; not anti-capitalism. But shouldn't we have had regulations that made it more difficult to get a mortgage when you had nothing down? And now should we bail these people out, making it more difficult for those looking for a home to find one?
BTW I work in the part of the business where bondholders have to "consent" to having the terms of the indentures reset.
They're fucking working me to death.
I picture something with big pearls (like 1" diameter) and maybe some sleigh bells.
Is this who Obama thinks we should turn Social Security over too? I can just see that now. Everyone's money goes in and nothing comes out!!!! Has anyone told Obama to leave social security alone!!! It may not be perfect now, but hell it ain't like this.
Thats public education for you.
Oooooh, Sallyh - fun in BH today -
The Osbourne Collection
Friday, November 30th & Saturday, December 1st
The Gibson Guitar Showroom, Beverly Hills, California
http://www.juliensauctions.com/
Honey Bear--I don't even know how you would go about getting bondholders consent to restructure these asset backs. It's too big, no?
I have to find a really ugly pearl necklace.
Wait, I'll come in again.
watertiger | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:27 am | #
I have one I'd be happy to give you.
I'll relieve them from their misery, 0.1024$/$. Any takers?
I picture something with big pearls (like 1" diameter) and maybe some sleigh bells.
Molly Ivors
________________________________________
Check with Lisa Simpson's jeweler!
I picture something with big pearls (like 1" diameter) and maybe some sleigh bells.
Molly Ivors
You could string mini-marshmallows together.
Apu,
It seems we have a country where only the "little" people have to be responsible for their investments. The banks and the obsenely rich will and are being bailed out by US.
You could string mini-marshmallows together.
Ha!
BREAKING NEWS: Democrats strip Michigan of all delegates for scheduling early primary
Thats public education for you.
Shorter Atrios
Results are in from an international test on science knowledge for 15-17 year olds.
US #21.
Number 1? Finland.
(Canada #3)
The banks and the obsenely rich will and are being bailed out by US.
huh? no they aren't, all i see are 'writedowns' and 'cash infusions' - i don't see the word 'bailout' in the liberal media
/idiot uh-merican
afternoon moonbats 
BREAKING NEWS: Democrats strip Michigan of all delegates for scheduling early primary
pie
That's kind of bad news for Hillary Clinton isn't it?
Apu no one promised that life would be fair.
The Continuing Adventures of Rudy & Judi -- New installment now available!
she should've listen to me a long time ago!!!
Apu it's do or die.
The debt holders are not able to meet their obligations and are asking for more time in advance.
It's a sin.
I had to do one this week where the lawyers had put in a couple of words wrong and had to be done all over again.
Ugh!
mogwai contrywide is being bailed out by i forget the name. the banks are being bailed out with cheap dollars.
You could string mini-marshmallows together.
Ha!
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:36 am | #
Or popcorn, and pretend they're baroque.
And not only is this proxy shit a royal pain in the ass, haloscan is being a real prick this morning, too.
On the other hand, it's crisply gorgeous outside.
MUST...RESIST...JOKE...
hence my pause...
Apu,
It seems we have a country where only the "little" people have to be responsible for their investments. The banks and the obsenely rich will and are being bailed out by US.
foolme1ns
Wall Street is too big to fail.
Except...(gears turning in brain)...If the markets DO melt down, all that "Wall Street Money" driving a lot of the political campaigns will dry up...That could (should?) make the whole sickening process of dialing-for-dollars fundraising and billion dollar presidential elections obsolete.
There may be hope yet!
That's kind of bad news for Hillary Clinton isn't it?
All dems, I'd think.
They'll just move it back prolly.
Foolme1ns--Who do you think was irresponsible for their mortgages? The little people. Sure, the mortgage lenders were predatory but they have paid a price--they have gone bankrupt; they have seen their stock prices collapse. Who do you think gets themselves over their heads in credit card debt? The average person, not the rich. They want to have all these things they cannot afford.
I'm just sick of it all. Even these writers for Leno. They strike and then cry when they are told they don't have jobs? That's part of it. You take a risk by striking. I feel bad for them, but that is part of the game.
People need to take responsibility.
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BREAKING NEWS: Democrats strip Michigan of all delegates for scheduling early primary
pie
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That's kind of bad news for Hillary Clinton isn't it?
attaturk
---------
but I'm sure it's somehow good for Republicans....
This joint is funnier and more intelligent in the morning. Memo to self- develop better ways of pretending to work before 11AM.
Wonder why there's a fuel shortage? Check out Bunnypants' carbon footprint:
http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/
200...cy_in_a_picture
People need to take responsibility.
Apu
like airlines, car companies, subprime mortgage lenders, citigroup, etc.?
Oh, fuck off, Apu. It's not the fault of poorer people that the uber-rich protect each other at all costs.
Government and regulations are intended to intervene in these situations, but they bought that too.
I'm not anti-profit; not anti-business; not anti-capitalism. But shouldn't we have had regulations that made it more difficult to get a mortgage when you had nothing down?
Maybe not.
Just don't bail either side out afterwards for bad judgment.
This joint is funnier and more intelligent in the morning. Memo to self- develop better ways of pretending to work before 11AM.
Gromit | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:39 am | #
Oh, I don't know ... we've had some pretty funny late nights, too ... although you are right about the intelligent part. We get pretty stupid after 11 pm.
Gordon Brown vowed today to press ahead with political party funding reform - telling activists Labour's disguised donations controversy showed the need for change.
"The latest problems in party funding show why it is right not to delay but it is time to act," he said at a meeting of the party's national policy forum.
And he signalled that controversial changes to the system of trade union funding should be up for negotiation as part of proposals being drawn up by the justice secretary, Jack Straw.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/
l...2220348,00.html
Molly,
Culture of Truth should play Rudy!
Attaturk,
Hopefully your carpal tunnel won't interfere with your blogwhoring.
We get pretty stupid after 11 pm.
Whaaa?
(Did you get my email?)
Apu it's not the writers that are losing their jobs.
It's the rest of the staff on these shows.
Wonder why there's a fuel shortage? Check out Bunnypants' carbon footprint:
http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/ 200...cy_in_a_picture
1Watt, Hermit
That's a shitload of nicknames.
The Florida SBA reports Jim Francis as senior investment advisor. I wonder if it is this
http://jimfrancis.com/
guy.
or this guy
http://www.tpj.org/pioneers/
jame...es_francis.html
It was a Shrubco policy to increase home ownership using cheap credit
the cheap credit has disappeared and other Shrubco policies have infated food and fuel costs -- it isn't that people could not afford the loans when they made them...it's that they cannot afford them with today's Shrubco dollars
Shrubco is right to find a solution. Although I would prefer brighter people who can think long term --
whtf? - The man who devised the Bush administration's Iraq troop surge has urged the US to consider sending elite troops to Pakistan to seize its nuclear weapons if the country descends into chaos.
In a series of scenarios drawn up for Pakistan, Frederick Kagan, a former West Point military historian, has called for the White House to consider various options for an unstable Pakistan.
These include: sending elite British or US troops to secure nuclear weapons capable of being transported out of the country and take them to a secret storage depot in New Mexico or a "remote redoubt" inside Pakistan; sending US troops to Pakistan's north-western border to fight the Taliban and al-Qaida; and a US military occupation of the capital Islamabad, and the provinces of Punjab, Sindh and Baluchistan if asked for assistance by a fractured Pakistan military, so that the US could shore up President Pervez Musharraf and General Ashfaq Kayani, who became army chief this week.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
pakist...2220126,00.html
Culture of Truth should play Rudy!
In a Bozo wig!
But then you have to play Judi, because you'd tower over him.
wasn't it also florida that bought up a bunch of enron stock as it was tanking, so they could fuck the hell out of the teacher's pension funds???
I think big business should take more responsibility, too. My point is that everyone should. It isn't an either-or situation. No one--rich or poor--wants to be responsible for their bad choices.
Oh, I don't know ... we've had some pretty funny late nights, too ... although you are right about the intelligent part. We get pretty stupid after 11 pm.
Brooklyn Girl,
That's because we're all unemployed alcoholics.
Pope Benedict has invited leading Islamic authorities to discuss a letter they sent to Christian leaders last month urging a search for common moral ground.
The pontiff's formal reaction was made public yesterday as the Vatican published his latest encyclical, in which he said atheism had "led to the greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice".
Replying to Prince Ghazi of Jordan, who arranged for the letter to be sent to the Pope, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone said Benedict felt deep appreciation for the initiative, "for the positive spirit which inspired the text and for the call for a common commitment to promoting peace".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/
...2220186,00.html
That's because we're all unemployed alcoholics.
WOOF! . . . [sizzle]
But then you have to play Judi, because you'd tower over him.
Molly Ivors
That's what would make it funny, like when she smacks him with teh newspaper.
HoneyBear--Thanks for the clarification. I thought it was the writers. Very different situation. I still understand why they did it, but it is certainly unfortunate.
That's what would make it funny, like when she smacks him with teh newspaper.
Yes!
It was a Shrubco policy to increase home ownership using cheap credit
problem #1
i'm going to go out on a limb and say that the fascist fuckers KNEW this shit would happen - that is why it USED TO be difficult to get a mortgage...i will even say that cheap credit lead to a weakening dollar
/i ain't no economist, but i did sleep at a hawthorne in last night
Lawdy. (re Moonboo's linky)
If Fred Kagan tells us the sky is blue we need to ask for a second opinion.
He's been wrong about everything.
Here is their executive director
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/04/
1...d_weighs_.shtml
Democrats have questioned why Stipanovich, whose brother is lobbyist and Republican strategist J.M. "Mac" Stipanovich, was hired. "This administration is taking the friends-and-family plan to the extreme," Democratic Party spokesman Ryan Banfill said. "A $100-billion fund -- it seems to me to be a no-brainer that you would do a national search."
Critics also have questioned Stipanovich's role in running the state's huge pension fund, considering that he was reprimanded by state banking and finance officials when he was a branch manager for Paine Webber.
Stipanovich and another supervisor at Paine Webber were cited by the state for their failure to adequately supervise an employee who caused two elderly investors to lose $11,000 in the late 1980s. Paine Webber was fined $5,000 and ordered to repay the clients in 1992.
But board members said they are happy with Stipanovich's work. Bush said Stipanovich has a solid reputation for his work at the pension fund.
Ultimately, the moron voters of Florida (not including Black Floridians who were systematically removed from the rolls) decided to give control of their money to people who nobody with half a brain would have trusted.
The eventual Dem nominee will have the power to reinstate the delegates of states who moved their primaries up. This will happen. The MSM will try to make a big deal about the controversy at the convention. But ultimately it will be no big deal.
who's unemployed?
The man who devised the Bush administration's Iraq troop surge has urged the US to consider sending elite troops to Pakistan to seize its nuclear weapons if the country descends into chaos.
Isn't there an island somewhere we can send this asshat so that we can be rid of him?
who's unemployed?
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:49 am | #
ooh me, me, me!
Isn't there an island somewhere we can send this asshat so that we can be rid of him?
Don't think so.
But I know he's on the passenger list of 4LG's rocket to the sun.
No one--rich or poor--wants to be responsible for their bad choices.
Um, the rich are rarely held to account for their bad choices.
(CBS) It was a bittersweet reunion for U.S. soldiers when they returned to a Baghdad home for special-needs children after the recent death of two boys.
They were among a group of 24 whose lives the soldiers believed they had saved when they rescued them from a nearby state-run orphanage this summer.
As first reported on CBS News, the boys were found naked, bound and starving to death, while the kitchen down the hallway was packed with unopened food and piles of brand new clothing sat unused, CBS News chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan reports.
One boy, Saddam Ali Abbas, was the first to die shortly after his rescue.
Now, some five months later, two more boys are dead from cholera they contracted while under state care:
# Thirteen-year-old Ismail Garib, who loved to show-off and interact with the soldiers.
# And Omar Thanoon, whose name is the only detail orphanage officials have for him.
Staff Sgt. Mitchell Gibson - part of the original rescue team - was shocked at the deaths and condition of the boys today: "They deserve to live and they deserve to have a happy life and at this rate I don't see these kids having a happy life."
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m3879...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Waist deep in the Big Shitpile - but the big fools say to push on.
Besides the loose nukes we need to worry about are in the old Soviet Union.
But I guess Pooty-Poot wouldn't like that suggestion.
But I know he's on the passenger list of 4LG's rocket to the sun.
The more I observe his behavior, the more convinced I am that he needs the help of a sykiatrist.
err...maybe not.
"i'm going to go out on a limb and say that the fascist fuckers KNEW this shit would happen "
mogwai, cloud 9 dweller
especially since the 17 rates cuts were all post 9/11 economy fixes.
Who sold the share of big shitpile to that Florida fund?
Lehman Brothers.
Current high paid employee of Lehman Brothers?
Jeb Bush.
anyone own a tiara?
Jaw Jaw is better than War: No to closure of Turkish/Kurd DT Party
CULTURE OF TRUTH:
Check your email.
anyone own a tiara?
Rosie has one I'm sure she would lend to the cause.
City taxpayers picked up tab for Judith Giuliani's visit to kin in Pennsylvania
In the fall of 2001, city cops chauffeured Rudy Giuliani's then-mistress, Judith Nathan, to her parents' Pennsylvania home 130 miles away on the taxpayers' dime.
Records show that city cops refueled at an ExxonMobil station down the road from Nathan's childhood home in Hazleton on Oct. 20, 2001, while Giuliani stayed behind in New York attending 9/11 funerals.
A similar receipt pops up at a different Hazleton gas station two months later, when Nathan apparently went home for a pre-Christmas visit with her parents.
ooh me, me, me!
Moonbootica
Um, Moon? You do realize that you just volunteered to be one of the elite troops to Pakistan to seize its nuclear weapons if the country descends into chaos.
Rudy is not only tight with mobbed up people, he's also tight with AQ'd up people.
that professor from Maine seems unbelievably optimistic about the bank freezing the states funds indefinately. No, I don't see any problem there. Do any of you?
He sounds like Kevin Bacon. "ALL IS WELL....." I wonder if it was on his advice that the state put money into these funds to begin with? Just asking.
Whaaa?
(Did you get my email?)
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:42 am | #
Well, relatively speaking ... compared to our usual brilliance, we get pretty silly at night. Although that's not really the same thing as stupid, is it?
And yes, I got it and responded.
Oooooh, Sallyh - fun in BH today -
The Osbourne Collection
Friday, November 30th & Saturday, December 1st
The Gibson Guitar Showroom, Beverly Hills, California
http://www.juliensauctions.com/
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:34 am
Actually, some of that furniture is not bad at all. Out of my price range, but not bad at all. I wouldn't mind the library steps.
http://
www.auctionnetworklive.co...owThumbNails=on
A Change Ain't Gonna Come: Democrats Openly Embrace Aggression and Torture
by Chris Floyd
A similar receipt pops up at a different Hazleton gas station two
months later, when Nathan apparently went home for a pre-Christmas
visit with her parents.
I want to know how much of my money went to pay for her spa visits.
anyone own a tiara?
No, but we could get a crap one at a costume shop.
The Florida SBA reports Jim Francis as senior investment advisor. I wonder if it is this
Which SBA office?
anyone own a tiara?
No, but we could get a crap one at a costume shop.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:57 am | #
I have two little cheap ones ... maybe I'll wear one tonight ... NOT!
I think it was on CR, there was some rich dude complaining he got wiped out. "All I was promised was a measly 1% per month."
Um, that's like 12.7% annually. 3-4x a CD right now. That's NOT low-risk.
No, but we could get a crap one at a costume shop.
hell, there are plenty of junk jewelry stores downtown.
Iraq's largest Sunni Arab political bloc has walked out of parliament to protest against what it called the house arrest of its leader, Adnan al-Dulaimi.
Abdul Karim al-Samarraie of the Accordance Front said the group would not return to parliament until al-Dulaimi was allowed to leave his home.
Al-Samarraie on Saturday told the assembly: "When I went to meet him I was stopped and told that he is under house arrest. This is a violation of the rights of an MP who wants to come to the parliament."
The Accordance Front holds 44 seats in the 275-member parliament.
Al-Dulaimi's son, Maki Adnan al-Dulaimi, and about 30 other people were arrested on Friday.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...981A8329975.htm
(yawns, rubs eyes, sips coffee) Slemmegethistraight -- our state gummints don't have any money to pay our salaries or pensions now, because they all bought too much shitpile? Does that mean I don't have to go to work today?
OT, I got to watch a herd of wild turkeys wonder around the front yard for about an half an hour this A.M..
What we are seeing is evidence of a financial collapse. Money is simply the grease that allows a modern capitalistic economy to work. It allows us to escape barter as the basic method to get what we need. Loaning our money when we have excess allows for the supply of money to grow (multiplier effect) and fuel economic growth. When confidence in the financial system is shaken the whole thing breaks down and the money supply will collapse. Reducing interest rates as a countermeasure is virtually useless in this kind of environment.
We could very well be fucked!
(If I was still in NYC I'd be getting emails too! 
)
Which SBA office?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 10:58 am | #
This is State Board of Administration, not Small Business Association. It is the state agency that was managing the pension funds etc. Over $100b.
Giuliani Campaign: Nathan Security Wasn't Misused
YORK (CBS) ― The Rudy Giuliani campaign has denied allegations that Judith Nathan, Giuliani's one-time mistress and current wife, abused police protection during his tenure as mayor.
The campaign issued a statement, saying: "That assertion is absolutely ridiculous. The security detail was only used to protect the personal safety of Mrs. Giuliani."
At the dawn of 2001, Nathan was Giuliani's good friend and was receiving a blanket of police protection. It was an unusual circumstance, as his wife, first lady Donna Hanover, was still living at Gracie Mansion with their children.
But the mayor was unapologetic, citing security concerns.
"If you had any concern for people's safety, you'd have the decency to leave it alone. You should be ashamed of yourselves," the former mayor said back in 2001.
Two British-Muslim politicians have arrived in Sudan in a bid to secure the early release of an English teacher accused of insulting Islam by allowing her pupils to name a teddy bear, Mohammad.
On Saturday, Lord Ahmed and Baroness Sayeeda Warsi met Gillian Gibbons, 54, who was sentenced to 15 days in jail and deportation, an official said.
Kamal al-Jazouli, Gibbons' chief defence lawyer, said he believed it was possible she would receive a pardon from Omar Hassan al-Bashir, the Sudanese president.
A source close to the Sudanese government said the two British politicians hoped to meet al-Bashir to discuss the case.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...CE34A541105.htm
Actually, some of that furniture is not bad at all. Out of my price range, but not bad at all. I wouldn't mind the library steps.
http:// www.auctionnetworklive.co...owThumbNails=on
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Today's auction can be joined in online - there's a beautiful bombe chest that's starting at $200 that I like very much.
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CoT,
She should wear the tiara with a ratty bathrobe and a pair of marabou mules. She should wear it with everything. I also think she should slug drinks and smoke cigarettes throughout the whole thing.
It looks to me as if the CDO fiasco depended on looting pension funds and state funds because there was no other buyer stupid enough to take the lower tranches on this crap.
No, but we could get a crap one at a costume shop.
Jeez. I suggested a radio serial and the girls are going all dress-up on us.
Mongo only pawn, in game of life.
I believe, Molly, they were imagining investment was the equivalent of a passbook savings account at the S&L....
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast
Of course, same thing happened to people who put money in Neal Bush's S&L. At least this time no Bushes were involved in Florida.
The campaign issued a statement, saying: "That assertion is absolutely ridiculous. The security detail was only used to protect the personal safety of Mrs. Giuliani
Protect her from whom?
Oh, brother.
yawn
Turkey's army has entered northern Iraq and launched attacks on Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) fighters, the Turkish army has said.
The military said on Saturday that it used artillery and air strikes on a group of between 50 and 60 Kurdish fighters inside Iraqi territory, southeast of the Turkish town of Cukurca in Hakkari province.
"As part of intelligence work, a group of 50-60 PKK terrorist group was spotted inside Iraq's borders," the army said on its website.
"An intense intervention was made on the group and it was detected that the terrorist group had suffered heavy casualties."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...BE65BD439B4.htm
Jeez. I suggested a radio serial and the girls are going all dress-up on us.
Gromit
How do you look in fishnets?
How do you look in fishnets?
On the radio, everyone looks good in fishnets
They were "protecting" her wel before she was "Mrs. Giuliani." They were "protecting" her when she was his goomar. ON MY FUCKING DIME.
Schools will really suffer when it comes time to collect property taxes on all those vacant houses.
The Ghoul the great muni manager
cooked the books and used pubic funds to cart his mistress around
and yet this morning the liar Buchanan on msgo defended the former mayor against this "hit" piece and msgop never mentioned the use of city funds for the Nathan Family taxi service
You should be ashamed of yourselves," the former mayor said back in 2001.
Shoot irony again, Rudy. It's dead, but could be deader.
so how many mistresses has Rudy had?
We are indeed fucked.
But of course none of the financial experts want to talk about the single reason underlying all of it: too much money in too few hands. Big shitpile was more or less caused by the people who have all the money running out of places to stash it all. So they went out on a limb and "invested" it in high risk mortgages. At a certain point, when too few people have all the money, it becomes very difficult to find investments that offer a good return, for the simple reason that outside of the investors, no one has any money to purchase the products or services of various companies. This sends company profits down.
I will be very surprised if we don't end up in a full-blown depression within the next few years. This meltdown has been 30 years in the making and during that time, no one has ever put on the brakes. At this point it's like a runaway train going down a mountainside - the momentum is probably too great to stop it.
Thanks, Dumbya, for making the dollar the laughingstock of monies.
What's that? Everybody should take a fourth job?
You heartless bastard!
OT: Allies of Gordon Brown sought to blame Tony Blair for Labour's secret donations as the Prime Minister urged the police to carry out "the fullest possible investigation" into the scandal.
Mr Brown wrote to Scotland Yard yesterday promising full co-operation with its inquiries. He said: "What happened in relation to these donations was unacceptable and it is in the public interest that any question of impropriety is answered."
In a sign that he is preparing to be interviewed by the police, the Prime Minister added: "I stand ready to assist your inquiry in any other way I can." He said he had asked Labour staff, MPs and peers to co-operate fully with the investigation, and to be "proactive" in providing information to the police without giving a "running commentary" in the media.
The Prime Minister will try to fight back today when he addresses Labour's national policy forum in London. But he will face questions about the funding crisis at an emergency meeting of the party's national executive committee.
http://news.independent.co.uk/
uk...icle3212991.ece
You should be ashamed of yourselves," the former mayor said back in 2001.
Are we sure Kerik was the only one with keys to the love nest?
Just watched a documentary on holiday foods.
Did you know fruitcakes are made January thru June and set aside for six months?
You should be ashamed of yourselves," the former mayor said back in 2001.
He was talking to his testicles.
Did you know fruitcakes are made January thru June and set aside for six months?
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 11:07 am | #
Actually, I think they're set aside for all eternity ...
It looks to me as if the CDO fiasco depended on looting pension funds and state funds because there was no other buyer stupid enough to take the lower tranches on this crap.
rootless-e
Either stupidity or the vast amounts of assets these funds have and/or corruption. These state funds are probably the only entities around with deep enough pockets that they can somehow justify putting some portion of their vast assets in these funds. They could say they were betting on a government homeowner bailout or something, which would have resulted in a very large return. That kind of position might be justifiable if they are putting only a very small proportion of their assets in it, like CA apparently did. But to have enough money in those things to actually negatively impact one's liquidity really is either stupid or corrupt. I would gather that these fund managers are receiving some serious scrutiny right about now re their own personal assets.....
Just watched a documentary on holiday foods.
Did you know fruitcakes are made January thru June and set aside for six months?
Culture of TrÜth
They still make them?
I thought people were still re-gifting ones made back in the 50s.
Did you know fruitcakes are made January thru June and set aside for six months?
Culture of TrÜth
Mine sure as hell aren't. You must be thinking of those sticky preserved fruit thingeys from Texas.
Did you know fruitcakes are made January thru June and set aside for six months?
Culture of TrÜth
So they are already old before their lifelong annual journey from one recipient to the next?
But of course none of the financial experts want to talk about the single reason underlying all of it: too much money in too few hands. Big shitpile was more or less caused by the people who have all the money running out of places to stash it all. [..]
Jennifer | 12.01.07 - 11:05 am | #
What we see now is people investing billions of OPM from state agencies, and pension funds in worthless financial instruments in a way that generated lots of phony baloney jobs and mega fees for companies that made political contributions and provided more phony baloney jobs.
Rudy, nobody will vote for someone who puts his mistress over his son.
Did you know fruitcakes are made January thru June and set aside for six months?
Culture of TrÜth
WTF? You make them in September-October, then start loading alcohol into them...
Before that and the alcohol evaporates.
Jeez, talk about people unclear on the concept.
for the Christening of my cousin Judith's son Seb, the Christening cake had been the wedding cake.
after the wedding, one of its tiers was saved and re-iced for the Christening
Many of the posts here are missing the bigger picture. This is not a mortgage issue. This issue is whether the entire finacial system is ready to break down. When any institution freezes withdrawals, it is simply evidence of the lack of liquidity in the system. When you see stories popping up everywhere that withdrawals are being frozen it merely demonstrates how widespread the problem is. This is much like the environment of the 1920's.
When you have stories that foreign nations (Dubai) are buying into banks (Citicorp) to the tune of $7 billion, this is not evidence that Citicorp is a good investment but it is rather a desperate attempt to infuse cash into the system.
We are in serious trouble.
I would gather that these fund managers are receiving some serious scrutiny right about now re their own personal assets.....
blerb | 12.01.07 - 11:09 am | #
I would bet money that the 10 minutes google research I just did on the backgrounds of SBA managers in Fla. is more research than the Washington Post has done.
So I installed the killfile dealy, but now when I refresh, Haloscan jumps back about ten comments. Anyone know how to deal with that?
Friends of ours have a bonfire every new year's eve. The featured event is throwing on the leftover fruitcake. The rum-soaked ones go up with a nice 'pawoof'.
Owes Jennifer an eggnog to go with her fruitcake.
I like fruitcake, if it's properly made.
It's not like it's possible for them to go bad, either.
The head of Belgium's Flemish Christian Democrats, Yves Leterme, has abandoned efforts to form a coalition government.
Mr Leterme informed King Albert II that he had been unable to come up with a plan acceptable to both Dutch- and French-speaking politicians.
French-speaking politicians in Wallonia have rejected his demands for greater autonomy for the country's regions.
With no obvious coalition alternative, it is unclear what the king's next move will be, correspondents say.
Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt has continued to run the country despite losing the 10 June election.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/
7122799.stm
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Moe Szyslak
Funny, Haloscan does that to me sometimes and I don't have killfile.
Someone from the financial industry is going to have to prove to me that the entire industry is not inherently corrupt. I realize that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. But it's becoming harder and harder to believe that there is any integrity in that industry. The burden of proof is on them.
I would gather that these fund managers are receiving some serious scrutiny right about now re their own personal assets.....
blerb
Hookers showing up at hotel doors isn't part of the service? These investment decisions were made while Neal Bush's brother was governor.
Snnnoooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!
Ugh.
Ok, gotta go install a curtain rod.
later, flittermice.
.These investment decisions were made while Neal Bush's brother was governor.
George Johnston
That seems like a good place to start digging.
this is so totally un-gangbusters,un-american/un-capitalist: obviously they don't understand the basic mechanics--for one to make a good deal--another has to take a loss [probably commensurate]to your 'good deal' profit.
now, it's time for someone else to make 'a good deal' off them, and they won't allow it. this is not how things go gangbusters. how else to make the pie higher?????
Today's auction can be joined in online - there's a beautiful bombe chest that's starting at $200 that I like very much.
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GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholiast | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 11:01 am
I could afford a wastebasket, or one of the gothic flower pots.
mmm..just remembered we have leftover birthday cake. nice morning snack. Any future typos due to chocolate crumbs in keyboard.
Someone from the financial industry is going to have to prove to me that the entire industry is not inherently corrupt. I realize that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. But it's becoming harder and harder to believe that there is any integrity in that industry. The burden of proof is on them.
Tralfaz | 12.01.07 - 11:14 am | #
I think it was Max Speaks which pointed out that the Teamsters Pension fund under the conservative management of mafia thugs who skimmed from the top was far more profitable than it has been under professional money management!
One of the defenses for the indefensible was that Ghouliani was undergoing treatment for prostate cancer at the time so he couldn't possibly get it up to be having a real affair.
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Moe Szyslak | 12.01.07 - 11:11 am | #
Only ten? Mine often jumps all the way back to the top?
leftover birthday cake...
Before you ask: (1) Me, (2) yesterday, (3) 54
..goes back to drowning sorrows in chocolate
Brilliantly sunny here but frigid and windy outside. The plan is to mulch up our leaves with the lawn mower, if I can get it started. I'm thinking I need a three hour nap to strategize on how I'm going to do that.
Golfing!
http://econospeak.blogspot.com/2...ng-
profits.html
leftover birthday cake...
Before you ask: (1) Me, (2) yesterday, (3) 54
..goes back to drowning sorrows in chocolate
Gromit | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 11:18 am | #
Mine's tomorrow. And I'll be old enough to know better.
It's a beautiful day in the county of Kings.
The Weather Channel says that tomorrow is going to be ugly though.
"If you had any concern for people's safety, you'd have the decency to
leave it alone. You should be ashamed of yourselves," the former mayor
said back in 2001.
So sayeth Mr. Divorce by Megaphone.
So, as people have said here before, state comptroller was thrown out of office for using public funds to have his chronically sick wife transported. He was also forced to pay back those costs. Meanwhile Duce Giuliani is appalled that he is being questioned about having his fuck partner driven up and down the east coast.
I think it was Max Speaks which pointed out that the Teamsters Pension fund under the conservative management of mafia thugs who skimmed from the top was far more profitable than it has been under professional money management!
rootless-e
That's sadly hilarious.
"Mine's tomorrow. And I'll be old enough to know better."
I keep waiting for that birthday to come. Working for Principal Queeg still pisses me off.
The plan is to mulch up our leaves with the lawn mower, if I can get it started.
That sounds like fun to me. I have to drive to SF now and spend the rest of my morning shuffling my mice, killing a whole bunch of them, and then cutting a couple of the dead ones up.
Mine's tomorrow. And I'll be old enough to know better.
But young enough not to care.
The Weather Channel says that tomorrow is going to be ugly though.
I suppose the shit that's going through here's gonna hit you in a few days.
We'll end up with almost a foot of snow today. Fuck that bull crap!
Two British Muslim peers have met the UK teacher jailed for 15 days in Sudan for insulting Islam by allowing her class to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
Labour's Lord Ahmed and Conservative Baroness Warsi met Gillian Gibbons, 54, from Liverpool, at a secret location in Sudan's capital, Khartoum.
Lord Ahmed said they had met Sudanese ministers and advisers to the president and hoped to meet the president later.
Mrs Gibbons's defence team is confident she will be pardoned by the president.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/afric...ica/
7122790.stm
"That's sadly hilarious.|"
In a way. In another way it's more ammunition for my ulcer to give me hell.
One of the defenses for the indefensible was that Ghouliani was undergoing treatment for prostate cancer at the time so he couldn't possibly get it up to be having a real affair.
HoneyBearKelly
Perhaps the real job of the police detail was to make sure she didn't stray while his tool was out of service.
Res & WT-- I'm beginning to sense that those of you who've lived under Rudy may not have the warmest feelings towards him. Just my spidey-sense tingling
Res & WT-- I'm beginning to sense that those of you who've lived
under Rudy may not have the warmest feelings towards him. Just my
spidey-sense tingling
See Spinoza's comment up a few. That just about sums it up.
"I have to drive to SF now and spend the rest of my morning shuffling my mice, killing a whole bunch of them, and then cutting a couple of the dead ones up."
When someone said you need a hobby I doubt this is what they meant...
I assume this is for some kind of experiment. is it ok to share what kind?
Meanwhile Duce Giuliani is appalled that he is being questioned about having his fuck partner driven up and down the east coast.
spinoza, non ridere, non luger | 12.01.07 - 11:20 am | #
Giuliani is going to really get on people's nerves as this campaign continues. And he's very vulnerable.
I'm with Simels ... I think Huckabee is the one to watch. He's got the "likeability" factor that the illiterati on the right seem to vote for.
People with HIV-Aids in Henan province were placed under house arrest yesterday in what they say was an attempt to stop them telling the truth about the epidemic to the Chinese premier, Wen Jiabao.
Wen made a rare visit to the province - one of the worst affected areas - in an apparent attempt to raise awareness about the virus. But Aids activists say his visit was stage-managed by local officials, who have long tried to cover up the scandal of entire villages being infected with HIV through the selling of unclean blood.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/
...2220113,00.html
FReeper gets to the bottom of the Federal Reserve:
Wintrop-Win Rockefeller: Bill Clinton & Mike Huckabee connections
December 1, 2007 | vanity
Posted on 12/01/2007 7:36:28 AM PST by topher
For those who do not know the History of the Federal Reserve, a group of Americans wanted a Central Bank, and one of them was John D. Rockefeller.
Now to get this Legislation through Congress, they enlisted Woodrow Wilson, saying if he would sign this Bill, they would get him elected president. They did that by getting Teddy Rooservelt to split the Conservative vote by running against incumbent President Taft -- so it was a three way race.
Now there was a problem with getting the legislation through the Senate. But Senator Nelson Aldrich, the maternal grandfather of Nelson Rockefeller, was able to do that by keeping the US Senate in session with two other senators on Christmas eve, and the three of them passed the Federal Reserve Act.
Fast forward to the 1970s. Hillary Rodham Clinton helps Nelson Rockefeller bolt forward politically in the Watergate hearings. A promise is made to make her husband, Bill Clinton, Governor of Arkansas (Arkansas at that time was controlled by Winthrop Rockefeller).
Nelson Rockefeller becomes Vice President to Gerald Ford, as close as any Rockefeller as gotten to the Presidency.
Fast forward to the 1990s. Realizing the Democratic Party is in trouble in Arkansas, Win Rockefeller is a Republican. The only son of Winthrop Rockefeller becomes Lt. Gov. under Mike Huckabee.
Wow! So who killed JFK?
Reporter on MSNBC - the Washington Redskins coach Gibbs is well-equipped to help the players cope with the death of their teammate b/c he is a man of tremendous faith.
I have to drive to SF now and spend the rest of my morning shuffling my mice, killing a whole bunch of them, and then cutting a couple of the dead ones up.
blerb
I already dealt with my experimental critters this morning, protostomes of the hexapod sort.
Gromit by the time Ghouliani left office everybody hated him.
Even the NYPD who were his biggest supporters at one time.
Perhaps the real job of the police detail was to make sure she didn't stray while his tool was out of service.
blerb
Ding. Ding. Ding.
We gotta a winnah!
Anything from the top shelf boyo!
But young enough not to care.
HoneyBearKelly? | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 11:21 am | #
True!
Sheets, BTW.
owls!!!!!!!!!
So according to Marshall, not only were Noo Yawkahs paying cops to drive Ghouliani's whore around town, they were also paying cops to walk the whore's dog.
"He's got the "likeability" factor that the illiterati on the right seem to vote for.|"
you're right. make em likable and they can avoid thinking about what they're really like (see bushboy and the kind of guy you could have a line of coke with)
I like fruitcake, if it's properly made. It's not like it's possible for them to go bad, either. JR
There have been no double-blind studies demonstrating that fruitcakes can ever be properly made. Just sayin'.
Fast forward to the 1990s. Realizing the Democratic Party is in trouble in Arkansas, Win Rockefeller is a Republican. The only son of Winthrop Rockefeller becomes Lt. Gov. under Mike Huckabee.
What a fucking tool.
I knew Win Rockefeller. He was about as far away from a mouth breathing freeper as it's possible to get. If he were still alive, the GOP would no doubt kick him out for being too "liberal".
Gromit by the time Ghouliani left office everybody hated him.
Even the NYPD who were his biggest supporters at one time.
HoneyBearKelly? | Homepage | 12.01.07 - 11:24 am | #
Yeah ... we ALL hated him. He's a flaming asshole. Which is only one of the reasons his pants are on fire.
Rudy & the GOP would like all of you doubters and questioners to go here.
"Yeah ... we ALL hated him."
you'd think the liberal media would be all over this - right? I mean, if the people of Arkansas were ambivalent about the clenis we'd a heard,
Golfing!
http://econospeak.blogspot.com/2...ng- profits.html
rootless-e | 12.01.07 - 11:19 am | #
I worked for just such a company. We were privately held and purchased by a private equity group. They brought in a brilliant CEO who quickly dismissed all of the experienced VP's who knew the industry and hired high priced VP's who had worked with him in previous companies. In less than a year he had assembled two foursomes with the highest handicap being a 10. In less than two years they ran this $120 million dollar company into the ground.
I assume this is for some kind of experiment. is it ok to share what kind?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
To really explain it would require me to prate on much longer than anybody wants to read. Briefly, I'm investigating the role of a specific gene in the development of T cells, and I have a whole bunch of mice in which the function of that gene has been messed up in various ways. In some of these mice, the result is apparently autoimmune disease of various kinds. When these animals get sick, I anesthetize them, perfuse their circulatory sytems with formaldehyde, and then leave them to pickle in it overnight. The following morning, I cut out all their various organs and have them mounted in parrafin blocks for histological analysis, so as to determine which organ got messed up by the autoimmune attack. I perfused four mice of that category yesterday, plus one of my colleagues needs some fresh mouse organs for his own experiments.
But most of the mice I'm killing are going to snuff it merely because they don't have the genotypes of experimental interest, which occur from the crosses I've made at a frequency of only 1 in 2 to 1 in 8.
Heh. I've already prated on forever and I've hardly explained anything....
"In less than two years they ran this $120 million dollar company into the ground."
and received bonuses, I bet.
There have been no double-blind studies demonstrating that fruitcakes can ever be properly made. Just sayin'.
JeffCO
You've never had my white fruitcake, obviously. And now? You never will!!!!!!!!
and received bonuses, I bet.
More than you could possibly imagine. All of them had stock options. When it became clear that they were killing the business, they quickly packaged it up for sale and managed to sell it for three times what they bought it for. The CEO made a cool $9 million. 2/3 of the 1000 employees were out of jobs within 18 months of the sale (including me). I was fortunate in that I have an MBA and rebounded quickly. My 300 factory workers were not so lucky.
I returned yesterday from a business trip to Orlando. On Semoran Drive between 408 and the airport I saw half a dozen or more hand-lettered signs with the general message "Desperate to sell home--assume payments." Given what I know about how the building boom there was financed, it's not surprising. Lenders financed both the long-term mortgage and the down payment--the latter typically with 3- to 5-year interest-only balloon loans. Those loans are now coming due.
Montana has completed a thorough review of its subprime exposures. Less than 1% of the underlying assets of its SIVs are subprime, South said, with the rest being bank debt and prime and commercial mortgages.
"It's not a subprime issue anymore, it's an asset-backed commercial paper issue now," South added.
Montana's Short Term Investment Pool is unlikely to get into Florida's predicament, South said.
That's because roughly 70% of the pool comes from within the Montana state system, rather than individual local governments, he explained.
"That lends stability to this pool," South said. "Those that withdrew were local governments in Montana."
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