I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarBig 3 auto workers + unemployed = the initial pool for gummint-run healthcare. Bring it on.


GravatarHello.
.


Gravatarsec


GravatarWho needs health insurance, anyway?

Just don't get sick, is all.

/typical GOP talking point


GravatarYeah, but they can go to emergency rooms, so it's OK.


GravatarJust don't get sick, is all.

/typical GOP talking point
David Derbes, worried | 12.06.08 - 3:58 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


If God makes you sick without giving you enough money to pay for medical care, His message is pretty clear, I think.


GravatarNone of those out-voted congress critters has to worry.


GravatarMEDICARE FOR ALL, BITCHES!


GravatarEmployer-based insurance is silly because it covers hair transplants

/Chimpy-Maverick


GravatarYeah, but they can go to emergency rooms, so it's OK.

Then any credit you have is ruined and then you can't go to emergency rooms.


GravatarDoes that fence present a flat face to the wind all 12 feet?

Yes, and that is part of the plan.

If it hold up to that. I can begin to use it (stress skin foam core glass-crete) as a back yard construction material. for patios and such.
Doug | 12.06.08 - 3:59 pm | #


GravatarIf God makes you sick without giving you enough money to pay for medical care, His message is pretty clear, I think.

Yeah, that you live in the wrong country.


GravatarMEDICARE FOR ALL, BITCHES!
NTodd, Wintery | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:00 pm | # [kill]​


It's unpatriotic to want Americans to get medical care when they're sick.


GravatarThis shouldn't come as a surprise to people, but for many it will.

Makes me want to bang my head against a wall.


GravatarThe only health plan the republicans want or need are insurer paid for dick enhancement pills.

It's kind of sad and funny.


GravatarThe US won't get universal national health insurance until a politically-connected person gets cholera from exposure to a domestic outbreak.


GravatarWhy is Atrios not posting about the crisis in the Irish pork industry -- get those rashers out of your fridge ASAP.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspa.../ breaking44.htm


Gravatar(sorry -- stupid job made me do stupid work)

Phila -- sorry you're still le miz. have you tried the whiskey cure? My theory (which is mine) is that no bug on earth can survive a sufficiently elevated BAL.

Gromit -- Oh, was that YOU?


GravatarWe had a fence in Yuma which allowed wind to pass thru but changed its direction in alternating directions in layers by about 30 degrees. It was remarkably effective at diminishing the wind.


GravatarOh, BTW:

DISCOVERY!!!!!!

Keebler "Fudge Shoppe Grasshopper" cookies are the closest things to Girl Scout Thin Mints I've ever tasted (other than the real thing).


GravatarWhy is Atrios not posting about the crisis in the Irish pork industry -- get those rashers out of your fridge ASAP.

thers is distraught.


GravatarWhat a fucked up country we live in.


GravatarThe US won't get universal national health insurance until the entire fucking country gets cholera from exposure to a domestic outbreak, and it kills every antisocial douchebag at every conservatarian thinktank and media outlet.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:02 pm | # [kill]​


Flung your toast.


GravatarKeebler "Fudge Shoppe Grasshopper" cookies are the closest things to Girl Scout Thin Mints I've ever tasted (other than the real thing).
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office


Here is a thing I will tell you: Murray's makes a sugar-free version of those that are pretty damned good.

Really!


Gravatareebler "Fudge Shoppe Grasshopper" cookies are the closest things to Girl Scout Thin Mints I've ever tasted (other than the real thing).
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:04 pm | #


Yes.

Why is the Joker on mah TEEVEE??


GravatarHaving doctors not treating sick people is the ultimate sign of an advanced civilization.


GravatarThe US won't get universal national health insurance until the entire fucking country gets cholera from exposure to a domestic outbreak, and it kills every antisocial douchebag at every conservatarian thinktank and media outlet.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:02 pm | # [kill]​

Flung your toast.


I fail to see the problem with that.


GravatarStep 1: Unhook health insurance from employment.

-Whether you're working 20 hours or 60, you should have coverage.

-People should be able to change jobs without worrying about losing benefits.

-Cut out all the middle-men (company benefits staff and health insurance deciderers) who add to cost but add nothing to/detract from quality of care. A small staff of insurance specialists at every doctor's office should suffice.

-Create an optimally-sized pool of payers. Eliminate the need to even discuss exemptions to small and mid business owners, let them concentrate on running their businesses. Eliminate the inevitable disproportionate carryover to larger businesses, which take costs out of employee salary.

In sum, get rid of two layers of middle men and a whole host of other economic stagnators by unhooking health care from employment.

/rant


GravatarHaving teh Buttle complain about comment thread attendance is fucking tedious.


GravatarI had to explain to a well off person I sail with that I could not afford my health insurance premiums, so dropped them. Shocked, he asked what I would do if I got sick. I said if it was serious enough, probably die.


GravatarAmericans are so perfect that they NEVER get sick.

Unless it is God's Will to test them.
/winger credo


GravatarPhila -- sorry you're still le miz. have you tried the whiskey cure? My theory (which is mine) is that no bug on earth can survive a sufficiently elevated BAL.

Thanks! Unfortunately, I'm supposed to avoid booze for other reasons. It's the worst of all possible worlds!

I think the stress of living under Bush is all catching up to me at once. I'll probably expire the moment Obama takes office.


GravatarNTodd -- Scramble "play live."

Just sayin'.

(It's like crack.)


GravatarThe most amazing thing in that article is that a mother would induce labor two days before her insurance is gone. They denied her the coverage anyway.

This country would be so much better of with medicare for all.


GravatarRepublicans. Stupid to the last.

Did you guys see this?

Academic Elites Fill Obama's Roster

On the WAPO front page, the headline is "Intellectual Tilt Worries Critics"



Gravataryo

I am not dead


GravatarHow much was spend on Sunny Von Bulow's health care for the past 30 years?

Because that should be the BASELINE for health care costs for the rest of the population.


GravatarHaving teh Buttle complain about comment thread attendance is fucking tedious.
plantsman


What confuses me is this "we" shit.

Does it have a mouse in its pocket or something? Or does it mean "all the voices that tell me to burn things"?


GravatarYes, we need more incompetent stoopit people in plum jobs.


GravatarPlus, let's have a deal where the doctors have pinpointed the problem, and the drugs to treat it cost a kajillion dollars.


GravatarHaving doctors not treating sick people is the ultimate sign of an advanced civilization.
MP | 12.06.08 - 4:06 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


What gets to me is that none of these people consider the effect denying care would have on doctors themselves. Anyone with a shred of humanity or decency would flee the industry.

I really don't want to be treated by a doctor who let five poor people die in the ER earlier that week.


GravatarI had to explain to a well off person I sail with that I could not afford my health insurance premiums, so dropped them. Shocked, he asked what I would do if I got sick. I said if it was serious enough, probably die.
sidhra | 12.06.08 - 4:07 pm | #


That echos a conversation about the US healthcare system I had with a german acquaintance back in the early 90's.

He was astonished an appalled.


GravatarHaving teh Buttle complain about comment thread attendance is fucking tedious.
--

He wants you to be as interested in his bb lint as he is. *gaaaaaaaaaaaah*


GravatarAcademic Elites Fill Obama's Roster

On the WAPO front page, the headline is "Intellectual Tilt Worries Critics"
fourlegsgood, darksider

Smart people got
No reason...


Gravatar
On the WAPO front page, the headline is "Intellectual Tilt Worries Critics"


I thought he wanted to have a diverse cabinet.

Who's bringing teh stoopid?


GravatarIsn't the point of having multiple personalities that they be different ?


Gravataris this supposed to be some kind of deep thought or something ?? of course an employee loses his / hers insurance when they get shitcanned. why is this is news to the nyt or to this blogger ??


GravatarHaving teh Buttle complain about comment thread attendance is fucking tedious.
plantsman | 12.06.08 - 4:07 pm | #
Plantsman, I remember the day you said you had enough with simels and his sock puppets and name stealing. You said you were going to register your complaint directly to Atrois. They attacked you for this, of course. Now here you are, you did not register your complaint and even worse you are now defending them. I am disappointed in you. For awhile there I thought you were a man.


GravatarThis country would be so much better of with medicare for all.
Insane in the Membrane | 12.06.08 - 4:08 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I think we should restrict our humanitarian impulses to snowflake babies. Life can't get much more "innocent" than that.


Gravatar File Under No Sh*t Sherlock

Whatcha writin' on your blog?


Gravataris this supposed to be some kind of deep thought or something ?? of course an employee loses his / hers insurance when they get shitcanned. why is this is news to the nyt or to this blogger ??

Don't be an ass.


GravatarIsn't the point of having multiple personalities that they be different ?
plantsman


HAH!

Back to the data mine.


GravatarWho's bringing teh stoopid?
V for Virginia, Your Ad Here

I think we've found out reason for the welcome return of Lieberman...


GravatarDay late, dollar short. Digsby:

Looks like Peggy Noonan and her pals don't count American soldiers as Americans. How shocking.

Yeah, ain't it:

Most of us don't, of course, count soldiers as Americans. Otherwise we might question the wisdom of responding to the deaths of 3000 Americans by destroying two sovereign nations and killing 4000+ more Americans in the process, as well as a hotly disputed number of Iranians and Afghanis. All I hear (in the media, at least) is that Americans are "tired of war." There seems to be no national revulsion, no national outrage at the number of American soldiers killed in Iraq that is anywhere comparable to the outrage 9/11 still stirs.

But I am just a humble blogger....


GravatarIsn't the point of having multiple personalities that they be different ?
plantsman | 12.06.08 - 4:11 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]This country would be so much better of with medicare for all.
Insane in the Membrane | 12.06.08 - 4:08 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Hehindeed.


GravatarFor awhile there I thought you were a man.
Sir lance of all lances | 12.06.08 - 4:12 pm | #

Nobody will ever make that mistake about you.


GravatarWho's bringing teh stoopid?
--

v4v, you are on fire today

bbl.

keep em on their toes


Gravatarwhy is this is news to the nyt or to this blogger ??

Try harder.


GravatarThere are stupid people on my TV right now.

Where DOES CNN find these conservatives? There can't be that many rocks in the world.


Gravatar
(It's like crack.)


Best I've done is come in 3rd.  I hate those people.


GravatarI said Atrios "should" ban simels if his namestealing continued. As Atrios did not ban m*m* when I emailed him, I doubted he would ban simels, so I didn't bother asking.


GravatarBut I am just a humble blogger....
Rmj, Joe the Theologist | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:13 pm | # [kill]​


For what it's worth, I'd rather you had Digby's readership.

I suspect you would prefer not to, though.


GravatarHello again peeps,

I've got Weekend Rooftop Blogging.


GravatarThe medical industry is bankrupting the country! A universal national health insurance plan is the only solution!


GravatarAnd this is news to who, exactly?


GravatarMost of us don't, of course, count soldiers as Americans.

She's missing her natural context if she's not at the Bukowski Crawl today...


GravatarIf I had multiple personalities, I'd wish one of them was a hedge fund asshole who lived for nothing other than to make another million.


GravatarNobody will ever make that mistake about you.
ronjazz | 12.06.08 - 4:13 pm | #

Ronjazz is the oracle of Eschaton. For sure.


GravatarFor what it's worth, I'd rather you had Digby's readership.

I suspect you would prefer not to, though.


I love Digby, but lately she's been something of a concern troll.

I'm just not in the mood for it.


GravatarI said Atrios "should" ban simels if his namestealing continued.

You are so full of shit.

Enjoy the buffet!


GravatarRonjazz is the oracle of Eschaton. For sure.
Sir lance of all lances | 12.06.08 - 4:16 pm | #

Sir lance is the asshole of Eschaton. For sure.


GravatarFor what it's worth, I'd rather you had Digby's readership.

I suspect you would prefer not to, though.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


It keeps me humble.


GravatarDay late, dollar short. Digsby

It takes longer to write her stuff.  Why it takes so many words...


GravatarIf I had multiple personalities, I'd wish one of them was a hedge fund asshole who lived for nothing other than to make another million.
MP | 12.06.08 - 4:15 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


You'd end up throttling yourself to death in your sleep.


GravatarAnd this is news to who, exactly?
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 12.06.08 - 4:15 pm | #


Republicans who have been laid off from Wall Street.


GravatarThat's gorgeous, Marce -- the closest we can come is snow-covered Mt. Hood in the distance, which is stunning.


GravatarObama put the 'bop' in the bop she bop shebop..


GravatarIt keeps me humble.
Rmj, Joe the Theologist | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:16 pm | # [kill]​


Someone's gotta do it....


GravatarWell, I should run out and buy a case of wine for my office gifts.

Let's see, Bordeaux or Pinot Noir? or Cabernet?


GravatarI flew over Mt Hood on the way to Seattle once. It was a truly stunning view.


Gravatarthe whole namestealing thing really is a hassle. I wish people would stop, but going on about who holds what position is a waste of time.

I've stated my position, and it hasn't changed but can't we all get along?


GravatarI said it with simels here, and I wasn't alone at the time. It's in the archives, but I ain't looking for it.


GravatarQuit crying. Babe, I was made that way.


GravatarLet's see, Bordeaux or Pinot Noir? or Cabernet?
fourlegsgood, darksider | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:18 pm | # [kill]​


Shiraz is all the rage these days, isn't it?


GravatarMarcellina, that's lovely.

Fuck.

All the news is bad - really, I can't imagine being unemployed in this market.


GravatarThe US won't get universal national health insurance until a
politically-connected person gets cholera from exposure to a domestic
outbreak.


Too obvious.  Think TB tho.... 


GravatarAnd given its trollish/wingnut personality, I deduced that the description, "Stumpbroke & Steercotted", would irritate it.

Really, the response was far more gratifying than I ever expected.
Chris Tucker: GOP Delenda Est!


Outstanding! Boy, he used to hate that. Nonstop entertainment!


Gravatar(.)(.)


GravatarI said Atrios "should" ban simels if his namestealing continued. As Atrios did not ban m*m* when I emailed him, I doubted he would ban simels, so I didn't bother asking.
plantsman | 12.06.08 - 4:14 pm | #


Well Plantsman, simels' namestealing continues and mimi is no longer with us. But simels still name steals her every now and then.

But my question stands, why do you now defend simels?


Gravatarno bug on earth can survive a sufficiently elevated BAL.

Which is probably why I still feel like shit. I've been sober for weeks!


GravatarLet's see, Bordeaux or Pinot Noir? or Cabernet?
fourlegsgood, darksider

Ripple.


GravatarI see A. Butthole is still hanging round.


GravatarI've got stuff to do.  Everybody play nicely with one another.


GravatarBut my question stands, why do you now defend simels?
Sir lance of all lances | 12.06.08 - 4:20 pm | #

Why are you so full of shit? Simels isn't here, and yet you are. Pretty much destroys your argument and credibility.


GravatarI've stated my position, and it hasn't changed but can't we all get along?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Nope.


GravatarThey all come back eventually. Banning doesn't seem to be forever (Atrios is just not that diligent) and even the trolls feel the pull of the crack den, I suppose.


GravatarSunny Von Bulow has died.

Fuck.

26 years in a coma.


GravatarTrolls complaining about being namestolen is really rich.


Gravataryou are obsessed with simels, I am not. On occasion, he engages in conversation that is not troll-like, which you never do.


GravatarOK, I'm going to make the heroic effort to get out of bed, even though it'll lower our visitor count and therefore doom Obama in 2012.


GravatarOK, off to be in the real world of laundry and snow shoveling.


GravatarI don't understand why the fuck those in favor of universal single payer never, ever seem to offer the argument that it would not cost more but would actually save money. What the fuck is wrong with these people? The savings would be tremendous. No premiums, co-pays, 30% costs of fucking paperwork, so your fucking taxes might go up, but you'll save money damnit. Where the fuck is that debate? You sure as fuck wouldn't be paying 1200 to 2000 bucks a fucking month for a policy that won't pay shit anyway when you have a claim or automatically deny your claim until you scream bloody murder and threaten to sue their ass.


GravatarSir lance has nothing if he doesn't lie about Simels. What a sad existence to lead.


GravatarIf everyone is going to the emergency room I should set up some kind of food service there. Hot dog stand or something. THAT is where the money will be! People have to eat!


GravatarSIMELS!!!!


Gravatar"Nope."

Eh - I tried


GravatarHas Obama put universal single payer healthcare back on the table yet?


GravatarWhy are you so full of shit? Simels isn't here, and yet you are. Pretty much destroys your argument and credibility.
ronjazz | 12.06.08 - 4:21 pm | #


Isn't this post by ronjazz just so special. I could just pinch his cheeks. He loves simels so.


GravatarAfternoon, Moonbats. UAW could do us all a lot of good by demanding that everyone let go get Medicaid.


GravatarSir lance has nothing if he doesn't lie about Simels. What a sad existence to lead.
ronjazz


The trolls have hot man-crushes on Simels, NTodd, and other frequent posters.


GravatarI didn't peg the new sock puppet immediately; but quickly, none the less.


GravatarEh - I tried
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

If at first you don't succeed..


GravatarHealthy Hot Dogs! Get yer Healthy Hot Dogs here!


GravatarI don't understand why the fuck those in favor of universal single payer never, ever seem to offer the argument that it would not cost more but would actually save money. What the fuck is wrong with these people?

I work with a guy like that. He sides with the insurance industry, by default. It's not a matter of efficiency or getting the best care; it's a matter of toadying to the rich and powerful, period.


Gravatar"If at first you don't succeed..

try try again - then quit. there's no sense in being a damn fool about things.


GravatarSnowshowers here. And it's already dark at 4:20.


GravatarBlodge,


GravatarHas Obama put universal single payer healthcare back on the table yet?
DuaneV, Wittol


He isn't going to unless it is loudly and forcefully demanded of him by a large percentage of Americans. Most Americans, though, are seemingly content to pay through the nose for shitty health insurance, or get it through work and risk losing it if they quit or get fired.


GravatarSounds like Barndog's, Hecate.


GravatarCall me if you need me.  I'm sitting under the orange trees, reading this book I got at the library. 


GravatarGive the UAW and the retirees Medicare, and GM can be competitive.


Gravatarhey Marcellina!

How aya


GravatarIf everyone is going to the emergency room I should set up some kind of food service there. Hot dog stand or something. THAT is where the money will be! People have to eat!
spockobama | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:23 pm | #


BRILLIANT!!


GravatarMost Americans, though, are seemingly content to pay through the nose for shitty health insurance, or get it through work and risk losing it if they quit or get fired.

It's easy to say you want change, but real change is scary.


Gravatarthere's no sense in being a damn fool about things.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Well, I'm a masochist, and delight in banging myself against others' brick walls. Whatever suits you.


GravatarThe passage of universal single payer health care would put the final nail in the coffin of the GOP for decades.


GravatarHuh. Just noticed that I can see Mt. Hood from my bedroom window. How did I miss that over the last eight months?


GravatarHe isn't going to unless it is loudly and forcefully demanded of him by a large percentage of Americans. Most Americans, though, are seemingly content to pay through the nose for shitty health insurance, or get it through work and risk losing it if they quit or get fired.
Buzz Bomb

Most Americans are insane and/or stupid.


GravatarHuh. Just noticed that I can see Mt. Hood from my bedroom window. How did I miss that over the last eight months?
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:28 pm | #


I insist you take a picture and email it to me.


GravatarBecause it's really obvious on clear winter days with fresh powder on it.


Gravataryou are obsessed with simels, I am not. On occasion, he engages in conversation that is not troll-like, which you never do.
plantsman | 12.06.08 - 4:22 pm | #


So, his name stealing and sock puppets, which you once took exception to, is okay now?

You are also wrong about me plantsman. Many times I have been here, under a different nym of course, and carried on normal intercourse.

But I am disapointed in you. I thought you were a man.


Gravatar
I insist you take a picture and email it to me.


Better, post it on your blog.


GravatarDaek here too. At 4:24...


Gravatar"Well, I'm a masochist, and delight in banging myself against others' brick walls. Whatever suits you."

I pick my battles. teaching in the city gives me enough - I don't want any more really.

went past a shooting on the way home yesterday.


Gravatarangryspittle |

Only 5 fucks!Good job!


GravatarI meant, "dark"...


GravatarFuckity fuck fuck. Americans pay more per capita for health care and get less of it than any other in western industrial country.


Gravatarwent past a shooting on the way home yesterday.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Lot of that going around. Expect more. It's the holidays, and we're in a depression. Lots of guns lying around...


GravatarMost Americans are insane and/or stupid.
DuaneV, Wittol


To be fair, most Americans are ignorant that sane alternatives exist to the current system, and have been bludgeoned with propaganda that "ours is the best health care system in the world" literally for their entire lives. If any good comes out of this current economic crisis, it may be that the scales begin to fall from a lot of American eyes.


GravatarGoogle Images has good Mt. Hood pics, but I can't Thumbsnap them.


GravatarMy primary doctor charges 150.00 per visit.


GravatarI've read some dumb shit at the WaPo.

But this is really in the top 10.

Now really off.


Gravatar"Fuckity fuck fuck. Americans pay more per capita for health care and get less of it than any other in western industrial country."

but we're #1!!


GravatarThe passage of universal single payer health care would put the final nail in the coffin of the GOP for decades.
angryspittle
------------
I don't think so. You know all those horror stories about people being denied health care by insurance companies or mistakes happening because of some mix up? ALL those will be repeated constantly by the people on the right.

"Health care was the best in the world and now because the government took over people are DYING under Obamacare!

Of course they were dying before, but then they could blame anyone specifically.


GravatarIf any good comes out of this current economic crisis, it may be that the scales begin to fall from a lot of American eyes.
Buzz Bomb

The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care.


GravatarI don't give a fuck what you think, Buttle.


Gravatar Many times I have been here, under a different nym of course, and carried on normal intercourse.

The sockpuppet complains that others use sockpuppets.

The jokes write themselves sometimes.


Gravatar"Lot of that going around. Expect more. It's the holidays"

fuck christmas


GravatarFuckity fuck fuck. Americans pay more per capita for health care and get less of it than any other in western industrial country.
angryspittle


Yes, and all that excess money goes into the pockets of insurance company shareholders. In Mob parlance that would be known as "running a skim," or a "protection racket."

This is what most people want, though. Until they demand better, they aren't going to get it.


GravatarI've read some dumb shit at the WaPo.

But this is really in the top 10.


This wouldn't have been written if he had put Joe the Plumber in a cabinet position...


Gravatar"Fuckity fuck fuck. Americans pay more per capita for health care and get less of it than any other in western industrial country."

but we're #1!!
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

But, single payer is too expensive, and is thus not politically feasible. Unlike the bailouts, Iraq war, star wars, etc.


GravatarYes, it's still snowing in mid- Michigan. 2-4" possibly more (depending).

Yippee! At least I have new tires to battle it with.


GravatarShit, I am sorry Plantsman. I know you are a man. I have no excuse but simels and his name stealing and sock puppets and your defending him makes it difficult.

But given that I should still not have said what I did about you.


GravatarDo you mind if I post UR picture?


Gravatarfuck christmas
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

You said it, brother.


GravatarFestivus! Time to break out the aluminum poles, and start the airing of the grievances.


Gravatar"But, single payer is too expensive, and is thus not politically feasible. Unlike the bailouts, Iraq war, star wars, etc."

right. now you understand. star wars made america great


GravatarFuck off, Buttless


GravatarDaek here too. At 4:24...

According to my weather station almanac, sunset was at 407 today.


Gravatarfuck christmas
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


I'd settle for printing that sentiment in a nice holiday greeting card, and sending it to Bill O'Reilly.


GravatarWhat time is it in "France"? 10, or so?


Gravatarsunset was at 407 today

Jesus, what parallel do you live at?


GravatarThe US won't get universal national health insurance until the entire fucking country gets cholera from exposure to a domestic outbreak, and it kills every antisocial douchebag at every conservatarian thinktank and media outlet.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office


That'd be a dream come true.


Gravatar"You said it, brother."

and christmas is my birthday - which sucks.


GravatarWhat time is it in "France"?

Plus seven hours for you.


GravatarIn addition, people are using the hospital less. “We’ve seen a huge decrease in M.R.I.’s, CAT scans, stress tests, cardiac catheterization tests, knee and hip replacements and other elective surgery,” Ms. Al-Mehairi said.

This is exactly what McCain wanted. Less care. And yet, somehow, the costs of insurance or medical care itself aren't going down. Wonder if Mav can explain that.


Gravatar10:35 pm


Gravatarright. now you understand. star wars made america great
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

If I hear one more sellout motherfucker politician tell me in his finest paternalistic tone, "politics is the art of the possible" one more time, you'll see me in jail on a murder rap.


Gravatarthat WAPO story is the dumb.


GravatarI put France in quotes for a reason. I thought Laurent would chime in.


Gravatarklown kollege

And with the survey's sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 points, Palin and Huckabee are statistically tied.

“It might come as a surprise to some that Palin does better than Huckabee among GOP men but that Huckabee beats Palin among Republican women,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Palin's strength is also concentrated among older Republicans, but Huckabee may have a slight edge among conservative Republicans."
Among voters who consider themselves born again or evangelical, Huckabee draws more support than Palin, with a 9 point edge. Meanwhile, Palin holds a 7-point advantage among non-born again or evangelical voters.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is in third place in the poll, with 28 percent of those questioned saying they are very likely to suport him as the GOP nominee in 2012.

Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich draws roughly the same level of support as Romney, at 27 percent


.


Gravatarand christmas is my birthday - which sucks.

Jesus!!


Gravatar...christmas is my birthday - which sucks.

My mother's birthday was a couple of days after Xmas. She HATED it when she was a kid. "Here's your Xmas AND birthday present!"


GravatarDid someone say "Fuck Christmas"?


http://www.dailymotion.com/chann...as_fun? from=rss


Gravatarand christmas is my birthday - which sucks.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

My son's birthday is the day before..


GravatarHey Buzz Bomb. Are you going to get laid tonight or are you going to stay here with us? Maybe you should pull a simels. Pay a hooker.


GravatarWhole lotta projection goin' on.


GravatarBlodge, why not start celebrating your birthday on, oh, June 25th from now on?


GravatarFor what it's worth, I'd rather you had Digby's readership.

Maybe the numbers, but do you ever check out the comments there? Rivals Atrios for stupidest trolls on the internet...


GravatarDaek here too. At 4:24...

According to my weather station almanac, sunset was at 407 today.

NTodd, Wintery

Since I'm in Maine, it probably sets for both of us at the same time...


Gravatartim teebo tim teebo tim teebo tim teebo tim teebo tim teebo


Gravatarthat pathetic bore is still here.


Gravatar“This shows why — no matter how bad the condition of the economy — we can’t delay pursuing comprehensive health care,” said Senator Sherrod Brown, Democrat of Ohio. “There are too many victims who are innocent of anything but working at the wrong place at the wrong time.”

I don't think Sherrod is trying hard enough. I think there must be some way to blame the employees for this. Let's ask George Will. Or Mark Sanford or Richard Shelby. I'll bet they can find the reason why the employees are to blame for their problems.


GravatarFor those who hate Xmas...


GravatarMy birthday is 11 days before X-Mas. I'm familiar with the dual-gift bit.


Gravatar“It might come as a surprise to some that Palin does better than Huckabee among GOP men but that Huckabee beats Palin among Republican women,


Women supporting a guy who believes in keeping them barefoot and pregnant.

Well, it DID say REPUBLICAN women.

(Not that Palin is any better)


GravatarBest college game of the day is on right now.

No.1 Alabama vs. No.2 Florida. SEC Championship

CBS


Gravatar"She HATED it when she was a kid. "Here's your Xmas AND birthday present!""

tell me about it. the whole thing sucks. I especially loved my relatives who showed up at the house and said merry xmas - then AN HOUR LATER said "Oh yeah - happy birthday"

not that I'm bitter or anything


GravatarPeople who already have insurance are scared. Even if it is shitty insurance, it's all they know. I think Obama is going about this the right way.


GravatarYou know all those horror stories about people being denied health care by insurance companies or mistakes happening because of some mix up? ALL those will be repeated constantly by the people on the right.

"Health care was the best in the world and now because the government took over people are DYING under Obamacare!


A few months of people not having to pay the insurance companies - and the removal of that monthly deduction from their paychecks, particularly the portion that covers spouse and kids - is going to make a lot of that bitching and moaning moot...


GravatarThis is why I love it here. I am with my own lonely kind. Here it is, a Saturday afternoon heading into an evening. And we will all, the usual, be here all evening. We are not getting laid tonight. Even Vicki isn't.

How can we or anybody believe in God when even Vicki isn't getting laid tonight?


Gravatarbarack's WPA:

i get a figure if 160 bil to pay 4 million people 40k for a year

.


GravatarPeople who already have insurance are scared. Even if it is shitty insurance, it's all they know.

I've spent the last week trying to find a doctor within five miles of my house that is in my "network". Last visit, I got stuck with a $110 bill.

I'll be pissed if I die.


Gravatarnot that I'm bitter or anything

Sadly, my mother is not around to commiserate...


GravatarHo Ho Fucking Ho:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B...h? v=BpXYiztjyFM


Gravatar"
Sadly, my mother is not around to commiserate..."

sorry about that.

my dad died 2 weeks before xmas in 1987.

it all just sucks


GravatarAndy, believe me, I know how you feel. My younger kid has no insurance.


Gravatar"But, single payer is too expensive, and is thus not politically feasible. Unlike the bailouts, Iraq war, star wars, etc."

right. now you understand. star wars made america great
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Maybe they could sell healthcare like the Iraq war. Just claim 24/7 our enemy has a plague virus and we're all gonna die without single payer and the terrists win.


GravatarUncle Blodge is a having a sucky day. Cheer up, Dude, Xmas vacay is right around the corner.


GravatarMerry Xmas from Santa Homer!

Over 30,000 views! If I had a dime every time someone watched it...


GravatarI flew over Mt Hood on the way to Seattle once. It was a truly stunning view.
Marcellina | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:18 pm |


It's pretty cool:

http://travel.webshots.com/ photo...096501088GObpRp


GravatarI didn't have insurance for over 10 years. During which, I found this wonderful disease, and could have possibly thwarted the progression of such during that time.

Shit happens.


GravatarHey dave and Terry C, don't take this wrong. Are either one of you getting laid tonight? I'm not.

I bet no one of us regulars, who aren't married of course, will get laid tonight, or any other night for that matter.

That's okay for me, I got my share. But for the rest or you? What do you think about not getting laid? Are you okay about it?


GravatarI wish I could say I was a man, but, alas, I've never gotten laid.


GravatarThanks ql

I'm actually kinda ok, as there are some good things in my life now


GravatarIf I became a man, I wouldn't need to pick on women that I don't know and will never meet.

I'm a sick, pathetic loser.


Gravatarsorry about that.

Well, thanks... didn't mean to sound maudlin!


GravatarAndy, believe me, I know how you feel. My younger kid has no insurance.
qlª - more lefty than you | 12.06.08 - 4:50 pm

my son just moved home. going back to school and working part time. spouse and I have both gotten the Thanksgiving day upper respiratory infection. Son so far is well. Spouse has medicare, I have private insurance but son is uninsured. I told him today that if he gets sick I'm taking him to the Dr. and fuck the expense. Nothing more important than your health. I am still paying for the appendectomy I had four years ago. Paid off the doctors, one remains and $25.00 per mo. to the hospital. I should be 90 years old when that is done.


GravatarI'll never get laid, unlike you people. Even my cat runs away.


Gravatar"didn't mean to sound maudlin!

s ok.


GravatarI know this one guy who needed to have his leg amputated and the socialized medical doctor under Obama care messed up because he works for the government and he REMOVED THE WRONG LEG. When he woke up he freaked. They then removed the other diseased leg.

So he tried to sue the government but the case was thrown out by an activist judge who said he was lucky to even have medical care because under Bush he didn't have any and he threw the case out of court!

True story. The reason that the judge gave for throwing the case out?

The guy didn't have a leg to stand on.


GravatarWHY is the troll SO obsessed with everyone else's sex life?


GravatarHeadline of the day:

Court OKs diaper evidence at ex-astronaut's trial

Whadda country.


Gravatarspocko will be hear all week

remember to tip your waiter.


GravatarHealthy Hot Dogs! Get yer Healthy Hot Dogs here!
spockobama


You funny


GravatarYou know, I think all of us Atroits have accepted that we aren't getting laid tonight. All except Vicki of course.


GravatarDidn't know that not being married has been made a crime.

Did Bush sign that into law, too?


GravatarWHY is the troll SO obsessed with everyone else's sex life?
Terry C - Awaiting 1/20/09 | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 4:58 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]

I don't know but it is about to enter the jaws of killfile


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h? v=ssa_56NzKOM


GravatarI know that I won't be getting laid, so I have to assume everybody else is as sick, twisted and hated as I am, or I'll have nothing to live for.


GravatarHey Terry, good to see you. I think you and me are a lot alike. I haven't been laid for over 2 years. How long has it been for you?


GravatarI should be 90 years old when that is done.
therealhellkitty






GravatarIt's not "namestealing" - it's "performance art"


Gravatarspocko will be hear all week

remember to tip your waiter.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
-------------

Good night!


Gravatar
Comment by Sir lance of all lances blocked.


Enjoy the buffet in killfile, you pathetic piece of shit.


GravatarActually, Terry, I lies (as usual). I've never gotten laid, and never will, unless I meet Larry Craig or some other GOP pervert. They would like me just fine.


GravatarTroll names are showing some creativity.


GravatarPostings are still as inane as ever.


GravatarI wonder if universal single-payer would allow me the therapy and drugs I need to become somewhat human?


GravatarEnjoy the buffet in killfile, you pathetic piece of shit.
Terry C ♥'s Pres. Obama | Homepage | 12.06.08 - 5:02 pm | #


It looks like Terry C hasn't got laid for a long long time. Hey Terry, it's okay.


GravatarTroll names are showing some creativity.



The names, but nothing else.


GravatarI'll continue on Terry, since she can't see what I'm saying, and I am a spineless asshole who really enjoys demonstrating how pathetically sick I am.


Gravatarsimels, you are a coward. Only a coward would name steal.


GravatarHow are things Terry?


GravatarSee, I can blame all this putrid shit of mine on simels. That's why I'm here, because I'm a coward.


GravatarGot a letter from my son today. 6 pages long and far more descriptive of Airok. There are only 200 people living on the island.

It is obvious that he is growing a great deal from the experience.


GravatarComment by Sir lance of all lances blocked. [unkill]​[show comment]

this one seems to be the chatty Kathy of trolls


GravatarMeh. That garage isn't going to clean itself. l8r


GravatarHow are things Terry?


Can't complain.  Got a lot of stuff accomplished today - got the house cleaned, the laundry done.

Trying to psyche myself up to putting up the tree, but that may wait till tomorrow or next Saturday.


GravatarHaloscan fucking sucks dog balls.


Gravatarnot that I'm bitter or anything
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Xmas all by itself gives me good reason. Especially this one.


GravatarDoes Sean Avery's ex-girlfriend still troll here?


GravatarHaloscan fucking sucks dog balls.


Comments keeping appearing and disappearing like blinking Christmas lights.


Gravatarsimels, you are a nothing. You have to live in that small flat in North Jersey and blogwhore here. Make up sock puppets and sit in front or your computers alone and every few weeks you hire a whore.

You even had to make up a trip to Paris.


GravatarThe thing is, I really like my house, I like where I live and I like how I live.  But if I can't afford health insurance on my fixed income, I shall have to move north.  It's pretty straightforward.


GravatarComments keeping appearing and disappearing like blinking Christmas lights.



Shame it can't make a certain party disappear.


GravatarSimels, I hate you and I'm jealous of you. Everybody here likes you, and I am hated by all. You have been a professional writer for decades, and I haven't even gotten laid yet. I hate to say this, but I wish I was you.


GravatarI personally happen to think ignoring the Trolls altogether works wonders..


GravatarThe thing is, I really like my house, I like where I live and I like how I live. But if I can't afford health insurance on my fixed income, I shall have to move north. It's pretty straightforward.

Aside from missing out on LRT, I don't see a downside to doing that.

Well, aside from your house, and stuff.


GravatarThe thing is, I really like my house, I like where I live and I like how I live. But if I can't afford health insurance on my fixed income, I shall have to move north. It's pretty straightforward.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian | 12.06.08 - 5:11 pm |

you are really serious about moving to maple leaf country aren't you?


GravatarHaloscan fucking sucks dog balls

I wish!!


Gravataryou are really serious about moving to maple leaf country aren't you?

The equation is pretty clear.  We'll just have to see how it goes.


GravatarWhat would you do if he moved into your neighborhood?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 20...l_n_148978.html


GravatarHaloscan fucking sucks dog balls.
Barndog, retired dammit!


Language!

[Xtreme pearl clutch]


GravatarI personally happen to think ignoring the Trolls altogether works wonders..

That's pretty much my take on the issue.


GravatarLanguage!

[Xtreme pearl clutch]


Yeah, what the fuck do you know anyways?



GravatarWhat would you do if he moved into your neighborhood?

I'd answer, but it would get me banned.


GravatarPersonally, I'd probably put the house up for sale.

Kinda like having a registered sex offender but worse.


GravatarKinda like having a registered sex offender but worse.



Mass murderer.


GravatarSimels, I hate you and I'm jealous of you. Everybody here likes you, and I am hated by all. You have been a professional writer for decades, and I haven't even gotten laid yet. I hate to say this, but I wish I was you.
Sir lance of all lances | 12.06.08 - 5:12 pm | #


This is what you have been reduced to simels. Hold on to that professional writer bit. It didn't get you so far but it is all you got.


GravatarI'd answer, but it would get me banned.

Violence solves nothing.


GravatarI personally happen to think ignoring the Trolls altogether works wonders..

Diverging from that path now and again in small doses doesn't seem to be too bad, but in general ignoring them is grand and not namestealing helps reduce pollution on the threads.


GravatarYeah, what the fuck do you know anyways?


Barndog, retired dammit!


Not a fucking thing, dawg


GravatarViolence solves nothing.



Eight years too late anyway.


GravatarBush in your neighborhood also solves nothing.


GravatarNot a fucking thing, dawg

See, I thought so.


Gravatar
Violence solves nothing.


Indeed not, unless you want your "solution" to create more violence.


GravatarOur lame duck President is a mass murderer.....do you think he'll get a lot of speaking engagements?


GravatarI wish I was a professional writer, but all I have is commenting on a blog where anyone who ever got ahold of me would stomp me into the mud. Simels is a king among men, compared to me. I feel lower than Bush.


GravatarFucking simels has been a professional writer for decades. And look what it got him.


GravatarViolence solves nothing.
Shared Humanity | 12.06.08 - 5:18 pm | #


Really?


GravatarHe's a really poor speaker and president. Perhaps "the base" will lionize him.


GravatarWell, I must go rehearse with the band.

Toodles.


GravatarLook what it got him, me, a lame-ass, lamebrain stalker who doesn't have the balls or brains to do anything about my miserable shit life. Simels is known and respected by thousands, while I sit here trying to get the dog to lick my balls instead of his.


GravatarHe's a really poor speaker and president. Perhaps "the base" will lionize him.


They already are.

Chripes, Peggy Noonan actually thinks the loser "kept us safe."


GravatarFuck Simels, I hate him. I can only wish I had a life like his, and know that it can never be, since I have no talent, no drive, no courage, nothing but my cowardice and hate for the world.


GravatarChripes, Peggy Noonan actually thinks the loser "kept us safe."


Presided over the worst attack on U.S. soil in our history.


GravatarPresided over the worst attack on U.S. soil in our history.


Ignored the warnings.


GravatarHas caused the deaths of 5000 soldiers since.

Killed a million Iraqis for good measure.


Gravatarsheeits


GravatarPresided over the worst attack on U.S. soil in our history.
Shared Humanity | 12.06.08 - 5:24 pm | #
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9/11/2001 was still Bill Clinton's term and the current depression is happening on Obama's watch.
/Obvious Repuke Doctrine


GravatarHas caused the deaths of 5000 soldiers since.



Killed a million Iraqis for good measure.



And responsible for maiming many more people.


GravatarLook what it got him, me, a lame-ass, lamebrain stalker who doesn't have the balls or brains to do anything about my miserable shit life. Simels is known and respected by thousands, while I sit here trying to get the dog to lick my balls instead of his.
Sir lance of all lances | 12.06.08 - 5:22 pm | #


Look what the meserable simels has been reduced to. I love how he states that he is known and respected by thousands. In front of 53 visitors he says this. The poor bastard.


GravatarOur lame duck President is a mass murderer.....do you think he'll get a lot of speaking engagements?
Shared Humanity

How many does Kissinger get?


GravatarAside from missing out on LRT, I don't see a downside to doing that.


Ahem.


Gravatar<a rel=nofollow>? Grrrrrr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Tor...treetcar_system


GravatarThanks for posting. I grew up in that little town and played on the Archway Cookie baseball team 35 years ago. Two old friends are mentioned in the article and lady who had to induce labor is my friends daughter.


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